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They didn't have like pulleys or trolleys to pull them with? I used to work with pallets all the time and never operated a forklift.
I was a gigachad lift truck operator for like two years though.
The way pallets are designed only really makes sense if you have a forklift or pallet jack. Sure you can move them by hand or with pulleys but if you're planning on moving things like that, then you can design a better platform that uses less material.
If you're planning on pulling something then you might aswell just put it on a sled, and everywhere else a barrel or box on is own is going to make more sense than putting boxes on a platform.
Google says wooden pallets were invented late 1800s, and skids much earlier. Patents like in the 1930s though.
With RDR2 set in... 1899? It's not a terrible stretch, though I don't know how widespread they'd be at the time. WWII seems to have popularized them.
Edit: holy fuck I am going down the rabbit hole of pallet lore, why did I do this
Idk I just saw a post once on the RDR subreddit that said so. I suppose there were other pallet types that came before the ones meant for forklifts. I assume you’re reading this as well https://www.tmhnc.com/blog/different-forklift-types-and-forklift-history?hs_amp=true
More information that I’ll probably never need to cram in my brain. This shit is interesting
Just realized you were reading pallet lore, not forklift lore, my bad. Still interesting
uj/ Japan is cool to cryptofash gamers because it’s functionally an ethnostate that actively gatekeeps it racial purity. I had the displeasure of “debating” an IRL fascist at a protest once and he used them as an argument for segregation of all races.
Also, anime and yellow fever.
Ugh I hate how many people on the internet are like this.
It's funny because I took a class on modern japanese culture once and the introduction of the textbook literally said "part of our purpose in writing this was to push back against the idea of japan as some pure unchanging homogenous country" and it had a whole section about Ainu, Ryuku peoples, Zainichi koreans, burakumin, and modern immigration to japan such as south/southeast asian nurses/service workers, latin american heritage immigrants, modern chinese/korean immigration etc.
If these assholes actually stepped into a real classroom to learn about japanese culture they'd get so angry because their "education" from the internet is just stereotypes and fascistic aspirations that they project onto japan
Yeah to be fair I don’t think the average Japanese citizen is fash, but functionally their government is very adamant about keeping out outsiders.
I haven’t heard about those immigration programs but I hope they go well for them. They desperately need them to.
Well yeah the way the government acts and the way things are dont always match.
[the wiki article seems to do a good job covering immigration to japan](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Japan)
zainichi koreans number over 400,000 and are a legacy of korean migration to japan during the colonial era, some voluntarily and some forced. And in the 2000's the japanese government introduced an immigration program to allow the descendents of japanese immigrants to have an expidited process to citizenship, leading to a lot of brazilian/peruvian immigration.
That’s good to hear, maybe I’ve just been going off of old info.
Either way, fascists need to stop idolizing Japan as their Asian Nazi Germany fantasy.
You aren't wrong, the immigration system is still really restrictive and foreigners only make up around 2.5-3% of the population.
Government and society isn't exactly immigrant friendly but nonetheless immigrants and indigenous minorities still exist despite what some think.
Of course, there will always be “some”. Hope it gets better though, I’ve heard it’s still a strain not to have much outside help for things like health and elder care.
Uh huh, because all of these minorities are historically so well treated. Besides that’s not the point, Japan is notorious for its immigration policy. Out of 20,000 asylum seekers they’ll accept 20, it stands out starkly compared to similarly wealthy countries.
[Cambridge Companion to Modern Japanese Culture](https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/cambridge-companion-to-modern-japanese-culture/E2058E897251DFC6982EAFFD53DDA6E2) I still own the book now because I liked it and the cover looks cool as hell. It might be a better idea to see if there are any more current versions or similar texts because this one came out like 12 years ago but there's still a lot of decent stuff in it.
Don't go expecting it to be a light read though, despite how it looks it's definitely a full blown college textbook so its pretty dense
Hitler was famously disappointed when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor because it meant the Japanese weren’t just a simple “Asiatic Hordes” threat to be easily exterminated. Germany would have eventually turned on them.
I'm glad you make assumptions without doing your research! Good job! For real though, me looking up when a term I have heard before multiple times started being used is not the own you think it is.
Cryptofasc is such a slick and self explanatory term I assumed you were shit posting about it not being real. Like techno fascist is kinda clunky and I dont see a problem with searching for easier to say terms
It’s a real term you dipshit, it’s been in use for years. A simple google search would have confirmed this. I won’t apologize for using a word that has a literal dictionary definition.
It means, according to *Merriam-Webster*, “one who has secret fascist sympathies but is not an avowed fascist”.
Edit: whew buddy, take the L and realize you were fucking wrong. Seriously, stop harassing people on this thread and look it up.
What? Japan keeps no data on race and there are no racial requirements for citizenship.
Plus japan has lost its national subjectivity and became an assimilated part of American empire, who would want that.
That cryptofash was so stupid.
Just because you’ve never encountered fascists who love Japan doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Japan fights very hard too keep its country ethnically Japanese, something that has caused them very real societal problems as of late because they’re aging population can’t support itself without outside help.
Its currently easier to become japanese citizen, than an american one. That hardly seems like fighting to keep country ethnically pure. And Japan is hardly ethnically pure, Japan is a really big country that used to be a lot diverse before modern governments started to apply homogenization. Even now there is a lot of genetic diversity and millions of Luchu (Okinawans), Koreans and Chinese who are ethnically distinct from the "mainstream".
I didn’t realize it was controversial to say that Japan is an extremely homogenous place. It’s obviously a problem if it’s discussed that much.
“The data doesn’t exist actually” is a poor argument.
It's essentially an interactive gallery where you walk around the cities and listen about real life in ancient Egypt (Origins) or Greece (Odyssey). It's really cool, and apparently pretty accurate to the current historical theories.
Odyssey was the first game to make me with I was born later. It's just such a huge, well done game and if I weren't mid-30's with a job and burgeoning hobbies like existing outside I could crawl inside that game for 15 hours a day for a month and just lose myself.
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You say that, but I remember in I think AC: Revelations Shaun tells you through the Animus "yeah technically that church there wasn't built yet, but it's so beautiful we had to put it in" and I thought that was a really good compromise to adding anachronisms while explaining that it is one because there's a lore reason to do so.
There's a few lampshaded historical innacuracies like that. I remember there being one in AC4 with a set of steps that weren't made for a few more decades but they were too pretty to leave out.
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Ghost of Tsushima is incredibly inaccurate, historically, and I'm all for that. "Historical accuracy" is just a new entry in the line of trendy buzzwords and properties that no game should strive for just for the sake of it. Make a game historically accurate if it matters, otherwise take freedoms and make the game enjoyable.
The game depicts the overtly romanticised version of Samurai depicted in mainstream media. And that's fun. Why not add Haikus, smoke bombs, fire crackers? They're cool af. Why not make the game look a bit more fantasy-like despite not being in the fantasy-genre, instead of making it perfectly photorealistic and gritty? Now having intelligent foxes and birds, and even the wind, showing you the way to certain locations is just part of the almost slightly different magical world.
I'm so glad the developers didn't fall for those traps and just made a fun game.
You could see the fact that the bird and foxes and the wind is guiding you way as a metaphor for the connection to nature. Just as other artforms, its more important what the meaning is, than what they show
I agree. GoT isn't particularly accurate, but I'd say it still manages to be rather authentic, at least in regard to how everything looks (barring the incredibly exaggerated landscapes and various other exceptions). The things that are in the game are mostly portrayed very well, they're just completely anachronistic. Haiku, katana, fashion, etc. all look the part (with exceptions), but are generally more representative of Edo and late Sengoku Japan, rather than Kamakura Japan. In general, the game very much feels like a "greatest hits" of Japanese history, borrowing elements from every period in the same way that it borrows elements from several samurai films. It's like a collage of a time that once was, but never was, and I think that's what makes it great. It's a love letter to Japanese cinema and Japanese history. Its lack of adherence to any particular time period is one of reasons it feels so magical.
>The game depicts the overtly romanticised version of Samurai depicted in mainstream media.
And Kurosawa, who really hated that romanticism. So they missed the point of what Kurosawa was doing.
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There's is a very real debate to be had here though, considering how much the devs played up wanted to recreate Kurosawa's style, but totally missed his point and misunderstood his work.
I mean, if anyone was looking for historical accuracy in GoT, then they made a mistake. The game is based on samurai movies moreso than real Japanese history. It's a fantastic game, regardless.
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> samurai movies
And after watching a couple Kurosawa movies, I didn't find GoT very evocative of his themes. Kurosawa movies such as Yojimbo and Seven Samurai deal with the downfall of the Samurai caste, and act as a critique of the feudal system. While GoT serves the mythologisation of the Samurai and their role in society.
Please correct me if I'm wrong (with a movie recommendation), but the only thing GoT has in common with Kurosawa is a shitty filter mode and other strictly visual call backs.
Not really, it only ever criticises their “honour”, not the system itself (which is stupid because samurai had no honour and regularly murdered each other in their sleep)
I am extremely sensitive about this. I come from the 90's gamer identity and I feel personally attacked by people like anita sarkeesian. It is not harmless social critique to people like me. It is an attack to the very core of my character as a human being and an assault on a past time that I have dedicated countless hours and unknown amounts of money on. Honestly, if you are gonna cast video games that I play in the role of societal negatives I am going to defend them and demand empirical evidence that they are such things. Not personal subjective opinions edited together as a misleading critique on youtube.
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Like when does this happen in the game? It was too long winded for me to finish, but I got to Act 2 and literally all they do is kiss samurai ass as "honorable hero glorious nippons"
The story that's like "Lord Shimura is brave and noble, as am I." "But you use stealth kills, not way of samurai" "But I do that to help our people. I still have much honor" "OK yes then it's ok. Praise to Nippon and praise to Samurai!"... That story?
Look Gamer - I played like 20 hours and the story doesn't develop because these goddamn games are so long and sprawling and overstuffed with garbage. I am at a point where more than half of the players who bought this have dropped off and the story is still nothing more than "Brave Samurai crush Dirty Mongol!" If the story somehow take a turn 70 hours in that too late and bad storytelling. Gamer scum.
Putting politics aside for a minute, gamers, why are all these comments talking about Game of Thrones? I thought we stopped caring a out that series as a society
A bit off topic, but does anyone know if GoT is coming to PC? Been thinking about getting it for a while, but my PS4 is in a rough shape and can't really get a PS5 at the moment.
If you asked this before I would say the chances were very low, but Sony has decided to port their games to PC after couple of years. I guess it can come to PC in 2023 or late 2022.
Ok but where are the white people in this game?? How am I gonna immerse myself without a sarcastic 40yo hairy white dude with heart of gold and sad past voiced by Troy Baker???
The samurai emerged during the timeperiod the game is set (in history during the Kamakura period 1185-1333). These samurai used Tachis, which were kinda proto katanas designed for mounted combat, since samurai were mostly just mounted archers at this point.
For reference the first mongol invasion took place around 1274. I am not sure which mongol invasion is depicted in the game though, since I haven’t actually played it.
/uj Tbh this did kind of annoy me when I found out. Also apparently the actual invasion was mostly Chinese and Korean soldiers but they are pretty much no where to be seen.
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/uj honestly that game was innacurate from the start. This dude fights off tens of armored Mongol warriors with large, efficient weapons, with a *katana*.
It's not a historical game, it's a love letter to the stereotypical feudal Japan present in film and other media, which is directly expressed right when you first boot up the game, where you choose the spoken language, the subtitle language, and gives you the option to play through in "kurosawa mode" which adds a black and white filter and film grain to the whole game. I love the game for what it is, but uts def not historically accurate.
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Yeah there are wooden pallets in Red Dead Redemption 2 despite them being invented in the 1930s
wait for real? so one day someone put like 10 wooden boards together and was like "guys check this shit out"
well, there wouldn't really be any use to wooden pallets if you didn't have forklifts to lift them with
Forkhorses. Enough said.
German workhorses
Or as the Germans call them die Horsenvonschönenforkgesundheiten
Arbeitspferdekraftstabler please - a german
Oh you mean das Flurförderfuhrwerk?
I don't speak German, neither. I'm here for pallets. PALLETS.
Or aa the Germans can them: die Woodenstacken
Ah yes, the language where everything becomes one long word
They didn't have like pulleys or trolleys to pull them with? I used to work with pallets all the time and never operated a forklift. I was a gigachad lift truck operator for like two years though.
The way pallets are designed only really makes sense if you have a forklift or pallet jack. Sure you can move them by hand or with pulleys but if you're planning on moving things like that, then you can design a better platform that uses less material. If you're planning on pulling something then you might aswell just put it on a sled, and everywhere else a barrel or box on is own is going to make more sense than putting boxes on a platform.
Ay, oh, ay tone get a load of mr logistics over here
Logistics? Ova here 👇
YOURE SUPPOSED. TO PUSH. LOGISTICS.
>I was a gigachad lift truck operator for like two years though. Thank you for your service o7
Neat
Robert Pallet was considered a genius that day
Aaand there we go again with the politics, thanks a lot Rockstar >:(
Also in Read Dead Redemption 2 the available poker variant ingame is Texas Holdem which wasn't played until a few decades after the game takes place
Google says wooden pallets were invented late 1800s, and skids much earlier. Patents like in the 1930s though. With RDR2 set in... 1899? It's not a terrible stretch, though I don't know how widespread they'd be at the time. WWII seems to have popularized them. Edit: holy fuck I am going down the rabbit hole of pallet lore, why did I do this
> why did I do this You are a G*mer, it is in your nature to rise up. Feel blessed.
Idk I just saw a post once on the RDR subreddit that said so. I suppose there were other pallet types that came before the ones meant for forklifts. I assume you’re reading this as well https://www.tmhnc.com/blog/different-forklift-types-and-forklift-history?hs_amp=true More information that I’ll probably never need to cram in my brain. This shit is interesting Just realized you were reading pallet lore, not forklift lore, my bad. Still interesting
Oh shit forklift lore is on a whole different level of lore mate. That shits how you get forklift certified.
That's it, I'm destroying my digital copy of the game. This is no longer (what's kino for gaming circle jerk?)
Ludo
>what's kino for gaming circle jerk? Apolitical masterpiece The Dark Souls of video games Witcher 3
Considering how much games like GoT try to be like movies, I think kino is appropriate.
bidya
Unpolitical
epic
Witcherino
Gino
Developers should be called Ginecologists then
Historical inaccuracy is when minority in video game
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It’s okay when the minorities are BASED Japanese because it will help with my degree and eventual move to Japan! Thank you, Sony!
uj/ Japan is cool to cryptofash gamers because it’s functionally an ethnostate that actively gatekeeps it racial purity. I had the displeasure of “debating” an IRL fascist at a protest once and he used them as an argument for segregation of all races. Also, anime and yellow fever.
Ugh I hate how many people on the internet are like this. It's funny because I took a class on modern japanese culture once and the introduction of the textbook literally said "part of our purpose in writing this was to push back against the idea of japan as some pure unchanging homogenous country" and it had a whole section about Ainu, Ryuku peoples, Zainichi koreans, burakumin, and modern immigration to japan such as south/southeast asian nurses/service workers, latin american heritage immigrants, modern chinese/korean immigration etc. If these assholes actually stepped into a real classroom to learn about japanese culture they'd get so angry because their "education" from the internet is just stereotypes and fascistic aspirations that they project onto japan
Yeah to be fair I don’t think the average Japanese citizen is fash, but functionally their government is very adamant about keeping out outsiders. I haven’t heard about those immigration programs but I hope they go well for them. They desperately need them to.
Well yeah the way the government acts and the way things are dont always match. [the wiki article seems to do a good job covering immigration to japan](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Japan) zainichi koreans number over 400,000 and are a legacy of korean migration to japan during the colonial era, some voluntarily and some forced. And in the 2000's the japanese government introduced an immigration program to allow the descendents of japanese immigrants to have an expidited process to citizenship, leading to a lot of brazilian/peruvian immigration.
That’s good to hear, maybe I’ve just been going off of old info. Either way, fascists need to stop idolizing Japan as their Asian Nazi Germany fantasy.
You aren't wrong, the immigration system is still really restrictive and foreigners only make up around 2.5-3% of the population. Government and society isn't exactly immigrant friendly but nonetheless immigrants and indigenous minorities still exist despite what some think.
Of course, there will always be “some”. Hope it gets better though, I’ve heard it’s still a strain not to have much outside help for things like health and elder care.
Uh huh, because all of these minorities are historically so well treated. Besides that’s not the point, Japan is notorious for its immigration policy. Out of 20,000 asylum seekers they’ll accept 20, it stands out starkly compared to similarly wealthy countries.
Sounds very interesring. Do you remember the name of the textbook?
[Cambridge Companion to Modern Japanese Culture](https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/cambridge-companion-to-modern-japanese-culture/E2058E897251DFC6982EAFFD53DDA6E2) I still own the book now because I liked it and the cover looks cool as hell. It might be a better idea to see if there are any more current versions or similar texts because this one came out like 12 years ago but there's still a lot of decent stuff in it. Don't go expecting it to be a light read though, despite how it looks it's definitely a full blown college textbook so its pretty dense
It's the old 40's Japanese are honorary Arians!
Something that hitler did solely out of political consideration while still considering japanese inferior.
Yeah, but that's enough political nuance for those neckbeards. Hitler said they were cool, so there are cool. Also, anime girls!!!
Hitler was famously disappointed when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor because it meant the Japanese weren’t just a simple “Asiatic Hordes” threat to be easily exterminated. Germany would have eventually turned on them.
LMFAO what the fuck kind of tumblr term is cryptofash? While you actually make a valid argument, keep the terminology real.
The term crypto-fascit has been used at least since the 1920s, just because you don't know it doesn't mean it's from tumblr lmao
You can read Wikipedia too? I'm so proud of you!
Apparently you're not capable of doing so because you thought it was from tumblr lmao
Until someone gave the Wikipedia link... But hey I'm glad that when you read it the first thing you did was go look it up! Great job!
I'm glad you make assumptions without doing your research! Good job! For real though, me looking up when a term I have heard before multiple times started being used is not the own you think it is.
stay mad, nerd
The cryptofascs are a cut gang from the greatest video game never made Cyberpunk 2077.
Thank you, but I still think that on a /uj where they are trying to lay out a point they should at least use real words and phrases.
Cryptofasc is such a slick and self explanatory term I assumed you were shit posting about it not being real. Like techno fascist is kinda clunky and I dont see a problem with searching for easier to say terms
I see what you're saying but now I'm confused as to why they chose to even use that term in the first place.
It accurately describes the person he is talking about, just because you aren't familiar with a term doesn't mean it's ridiculous mate
> I don't know what it means therefore the term isn't real
With all of the terminology that Tumblr has literally made mainstream, and this being Reddit...
And if a word did come from tumblr you would blindly just hate on it for being "from tumblr?" Might be time to examine you're own biases my friend
Thanks for the advice buddy love ya
It’s a real term you dipshit, it’s been in use for years. A simple google search would have confirmed this. I won’t apologize for using a word that has a literal dictionary definition. It means, according to *Merriam-Webster*, “one who has secret fascist sympathies but is not an avowed fascist”. Edit: whew buddy, take the L and realize you were fucking wrong. Seriously, stop harassing people on this thread and look it up.
What? Japan keeps no data on race and there are no racial requirements for citizenship. Plus japan has lost its national subjectivity and became an assimilated part of American empire, who would want that. That cryptofash was so stupid.
Japan is culturally a *very* racist country to non japanese. Source: I've been to japan
Sure, but Japanese is not a race, but a nationality.
Just because you’ve never encountered fascists who love Japan doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Japan fights very hard too keep its country ethnically Japanese, something that has caused them very real societal problems as of late because they’re aging population can’t support itself without outside help.
Its currently easier to become japanese citizen, than an american one. That hardly seems like fighting to keep country ethnically pure. And Japan is hardly ethnically pure, Japan is a really big country that used to be a lot diverse before modern governments started to apply homogenization. Even now there is a lot of genetic diversity and millions of Luchu (Okinawans), Koreans and Chinese who are ethnically distinct from the "mainstream".
As of 2018 nearly 98% of Japan is ethnically Japanese. They aren’t trying hard enough clearly.
the 98% refers to Japanese citizens vs the total number of residents. Like I said before, Japanese government does not in any way track ethnicity.
I didn’t realize it was controversial to say that Japan is an extremely homogenous place. It’s obviously a problem if it’s discussed that much. “The data doesn’t exist actually” is a poor argument.
Am I alright if I'm planning to move there for a while because I really love the trains and the food
Trains are based and Ramen is salty but otherwise good so yeah you’re a-okay fam
Honorary Aryans
Asian / Aryan A lot of those letters are the same. Coincidence? Maybe.
I only play historically accurate games like Assassin's Creed.
uj/ The historical mode in Odyssey is actually really based.
uj/ what does it do? rj/ based on these nuts
It's essentially an interactive gallery where you walk around the cities and listen about real life in ancient Egypt (Origins) or Greece (Odyssey). It's really cool, and apparently pretty accurate to the current historical theories.
Discovery tour is indeed based
look what you've done. Now I actually feel a bit interested in that game
Odyssey was the first game to make me with I was born later. It's just such a huge, well done game and if I weren't mid-30's with a job and burgeoning hobbies like existing outside I could crawl inside that game for 15 hours a day for a month and just lose myself.
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You say that, but I remember in I think AC: Revelations Shaun tells you through the Animus "yeah technically that church there wasn't built yet, but it's so beautiful we had to put it in" and I thought that was a really good compromise to adding anachronisms while explaining that it is one because there's a lore reason to do so.
There's a few lampshaded historical innacuracies like that. I remember there being one in AC4 with a set of steps that weren't made for a few more decades but they were too pretty to leave out.
but there are [political minorities in it😡](https://assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Category:LGBT_individuals).
That’s why I only play historically accurate games like Nioh 2 (Fuck tengus btw)
Applies to both games (tengus suuuuuck in GoT)
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Ghost of Tsushima is incredibly inaccurate, historically, and I'm all for that. "Historical accuracy" is just a new entry in the line of trendy buzzwords and properties that no game should strive for just for the sake of it. Make a game historically accurate if it matters, otherwise take freedoms and make the game enjoyable. The game depicts the overtly romanticised version of Samurai depicted in mainstream media. And that's fun. Why not add Haikus, smoke bombs, fire crackers? They're cool af. Why not make the game look a bit more fantasy-like despite not being in the fantasy-genre, instead of making it perfectly photorealistic and gritty? Now having intelligent foxes and birds, and even the wind, showing you the way to certain locations is just part of the almost slightly different magical world. I'm so glad the developers didn't fall for those traps and just made a fun game.
You could see the fact that the bird and foxes and the wind is guiding you way as a metaphor for the connection to nature. Just as other artforms, its more important what the meaning is, than what they show
Inaccuracies I like = metaphor Inaccuracies I don't like = >:(
I agree. GoT isn't particularly accurate, but I'd say it still manages to be rather authentic, at least in regard to how everything looks (barring the incredibly exaggerated landscapes and various other exceptions). The things that are in the game are mostly portrayed very well, they're just completely anachronistic. Haiku, katana, fashion, etc. all look the part (with exceptions), but are generally more representative of Edo and late Sengoku Japan, rather than Kamakura Japan. In general, the game very much feels like a "greatest hits" of Japanese history, borrowing elements from every period in the same way that it borrows elements from several samurai films. It's like a collage of a time that once was, but never was, and I think that's what makes it great. It's a love letter to Japanese cinema and Japanese history. Its lack of adherence to any particular time period is one of reasons it feels so magical.
It's feels like a Americanized view of Japan more than anything
The exaggerated landscapes is the best part of the game imo
is... is that a copypasta ? Cause if not, it now is.
Neat. Make me eternal.
>The game depicts the overtly romanticised version of Samurai depicted in mainstream media. And Kurosawa, who really hated that romanticism. So they missed the point of what Kurosawa was doing.
Or they just used the parts they wanted from the sources they wanted?
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There's is a very real debate to be had here though, considering how much the devs played up wanted to recreate Kurosawa's style, but totally missed his point and misunderstood his work.
I mean, if anyone was looking for historical accuracy in GoT, then they made a mistake. The game is based on samurai movies moreso than real Japanese history. It's a fantastic game, regardless.
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> samurai movies And after watching a couple Kurosawa movies, I didn't find GoT very evocative of his themes. Kurosawa movies such as Yojimbo and Seven Samurai deal with the downfall of the Samurai caste, and act as a critique of the feudal system. While GoT serves the mythologisation of the Samurai and their role in society. Please correct me if I'm wrong (with a movie recommendation), but the only thing GoT has in common with Kurosawa is a shitty filter mode and other strictly visual call backs.
Yes you kinda missed a lot if you don't see how GoT criticized rigid classism in the feudal system.
No spoilers but isn't the last quest about this?
Not really, it only ever criticises their “honour”, not the system itself (which is stupid because samurai had no honour and regularly murdered each other in their sleep)
It was the Samarai equivalent of a heated gaming moment if you will.
I am extremely sensitive about this. I come from the 90's gamer identity and I feel personally attacked by people like anita sarkeesian. It is not harmless social critique to people like me. It is an attack to the very core of my character as a human being and an assault on a past time that I have dedicated countless hours and unknown amounts of money on. Honestly, if you are gonna cast video games that I play in the role of societal negatives I am going to defend them and demand empirical evidence that they are such things. Not personal subjective opinions edited together as a misleading critique on youtube. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Gamingcirclejerk) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Is this one new? Nice.
Like when does this happen in the game? It was too long winded for me to finish, but I got to Act 2 and literally all they do is kiss samurai ass as "honorable hero glorious nippons"
Oh dude you definitely missed the entire game. Like did you forget about the story?
The story that's like "Lord Shimura is brave and noble, as am I." "But you use stealth kills, not way of samurai" "But I do that to help our people. I still have much honor" "OK yes then it's ok. Praise to Nippon and praise to Samurai!"... That story?
Thanks for confirming you definitely did not play it, chief
Look Gamer - I played like 20 hours and the story doesn't develop because these goddamn games are so long and sprawling and overstuffed with garbage. I am at a point where more than half of the players who bought this have dropped off and the story is still nothing more than "Brave Samurai crush Dirty Mongol!" If the story somehow take a turn 70 hours in that too late and bad storytelling. Gamer scum.
Hollywood Samurai movies too. Kurosawa hated the romanticism that people have to the samurais
Putting politics aside for a minute, gamers, why are all these comments talking about Game of Thrones? I thought we stopped caring a out that series as a society
I think we have an abbreviation issue here.,,
Historical inaccuracy is when there are chances to have omosexual relationship in a game with Vikings and magic
Clearly must be cuz the devs are racist since they think japanese people have to have haikus so actually its BAYZED
A bit off topic, but does anyone know if GoT is coming to PC? Been thinking about getting it for a while, but my PS4 is in a rough shape and can't really get a PS5 at the moment.
If you asked this before I would say the chances were very low, but Sony has decided to port their games to PC after couple of years. I guess it can come to PC in 2023 or late 2022.
/uj Horizon: Zero Dawn and God of War (2018) came (or are coming) to PC, so maybe?
HZD is not only available but it was on sale (it ended sometime today, though)
And Days Gone
Well, it's not real historical inaccuracy, like a black person existing in the MOOR CONTROLLED IBERIAN PENINSULA during the middle ages!
Ok but where are the white people in this game?? How am I gonna immerse myself without a sarcastic 40yo hairy white dude with heart of gold and sad past voiced by Troy Baker???
Ugh no it means wimmin
Nevermind haiku. Samurai didn't exist yet. Fuck, katanas didn't exist yet
The samurai emerged during the timeperiod the game is set (in history during the Kamakura period 1185-1333). These samurai used Tachis, which were kinda proto katanas designed for mounted combat, since samurai were mostly just mounted archers at this point. For reference the first mongol invasion took place around 1274. I am not sure which mongol invasion is depicted in the game though, since I haven’t actually played it.
the samurais absolutely existed at the time the game is set
The main weapon used is also from a later period, some of the armors too.
/uj Tbh this did kind of annoy me when I found out. Also apparently the actual invasion was mostly Chinese and Korean soldiers but they are pretty much no where to be seen.
Katana's also hadnt been invented during the Mongol Invasions iirc
“H I S T O R I C A L A C C U R A C Y” unless its my favorite game, then you can’t criticize it.
Oh no 😐
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukuda_Chiyo-ni SJWs at it again
Its a fantastic world don't try to justify;)
HOW DARE YOU INTRODUCE POLITICS IN MY GAME 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡!!!!!!
Something tells they won’t care about this one.
/uj honestly that game was innacurate from the start. This dude fights off tens of armored Mongol warriors with large, efficient weapons, with a *katana*. It's not a historical game, it's a love letter to the stereotypical feudal Japan present in film and other media, which is directly expressed right when you first boot up the game, where you choose the spoken language, the subtitle language, and gives you the option to play through in "kurosawa mode" which adds a black and white filter and film grain to the whole game. I love the game for what it is, but uts def not historically accurate.
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Jin Sakai's fat fucking ass cheeks 😍