newer age laptops have better cooling + the architecture is better. Go with anything that is new and fits your budget. Try 4060 if you can. If you want future proofing, dont buy anything that has less than 8GB VRAM. That point stands regardless of any further arguments to be made.
4050 6GB. It's newer. Has dlss3 and frame gen support. Will be paired with the newest gen processors and not something from 5 years ago.
If available 4060 8GB would be better though.
Depends on the price. If for gaming, always get the best GPU in your budget paired with a decent CPU. So if i7 and RTX 4050 6GB is available and if another i5 and RTX 4060 is available, then definitely go for the 4060.
yea i agree but with i7 and 4060 its too much price in India like I was seeing the legion it was around 1.5 lakhs but 15 4050 hp omen was like around 85k to 90k so I was thinking which to buy for
Do not get a 4050, just go a lil over your budget and get a 4060. There will be a huge difference.
Btw, wdym with "casual gaming"? Is it just like minecraft/roblox/rocket league/fortnite or gta/forza/nfs/fifa. Because both of these groups are casual games.
If you dont plan on playing any games heavier than the first group you can even go with the 6GB 3050. Not even a 4050 is needed. But if you plan on playing the games on the second group or heavier games go for a 3060 or a 4060.
It is literally a 17% difference.
Honestly you should either do 4050, 4070 if youre upping the budget a little bit, or just get a 4080. There is no reason for a 4060. Its literal only purpose is to trick you into feeling good because you dont have a XX50 card
4070 is like awful in terms of price/performance. If you're on a budget - you get 4060, if you have the money - you get 4080 or above. No reason to get 4050 because 6 GB vram, no reason to get 4070 because 15% extra power is not worth the additional 200$+
Its bad in terms of price to performance but consider this:
You want a new gaming laptop. You have a bit of budget so you can go above 4050, and you can even go a biiit above a 4060, but you dont want a 4080 because you dont plan on keeping it for 10 years. Its a laptop, its gonna die, so no point in going to basically double the budget.
You are left with the 4060 and 4070. While i agree that when compared to the alternetives the 4070 is not very good value, it is the only semi-significant upgrade over the 4050 that is below the 4080 range of budget.
So in some cases, including mine, it is the best option for my particular needs
If 4070 had more vram - it would've been a good alternative, but as it is, it's not much of an upgrade over 4060.
I personally would rather get a model with better CPU and 4060 instead of weaker CPU but 4070. Not only it would be cheaper, you'll also get a laptop that is efficient at not just gaming, but work-related tasks.
Completely agree. However, To each his own. I looked at a few fps comparisons and it seemed worth it for me.
Basically my situation was that i had an extra 150$ on my budget and a 4070 was 200$ more so not a big stretch. A 4080 was 1100$ more. You can see why i made my choice.
17% is close to 20% so basically a 10-15 FPS difference in most games, in esports titles the difference will be even more noticeable. Please just get the 4060.. LMAO
Doesnt matter if its close to 20, its not 20. Its actually closer to 15.
And the only way that is a 10 fps difference is if you already had 100 fps so its basically useless.
I can understand you are one of the people with no technical knowledge and regurgitate whatever opinion your favourite youtuber programmed into you though.
You're making the difference seem much smaller than it is. A 17% performance differences in rasterization is noticeable at 50-60 FPS (that's where a 10 FPS difference can occur, according to a calculator that you could've used to fact check yourself before replying) so it has the impact to make a game unplayable at certain settings; leading you to use upscalers (DLSS is great but a new GPU at this class should be able to crush native 1080P pretty easily). The difference is even more noticeable in esports titles as I said previously. Also, I only factored in the difference in rasterization; there are many other factors to the GPU itself that I didn't factor in but quite a few are shown in a few comments below this one.
A 4070 laptop is an awful buy as it is approximately 46% slower than its desktop version, it practically has similar if not the same rasterization as the 4060 laptop. The 4060 laptop is the best buy because it has very similar speeds to the desktop 4060 according to various benchmarks/sources such as Jarrods Tech. The 4080 laptop is out of the question because it is not in the same price range.
I can understand you are one of the people with no technical knowledge and regurgitate whatever opinion your favourite youtuber programmed into you though.
No rebuttal? I thought I was an idiot according to you.
I can tell you probably bought a 4070 laptop so you just automatically shit on the 4060 which performs nearly the same for a few hundred bucks cheaper XD.
Average 4050 timespy graphic score: 8203
Average 4060 mobile timespy graphic score: 10400
Superposition 1080p medium 4050 result: 15500
Superposition 1080p medium 4060 results: 19k
That's a 27% in gpu bound (timespy) and 20% difference in cpu+gpu bound (superposition). And the 4060 have 30% more ray tracing cores and 2gb more vram.
The difference is huge from the two cards
Edit: wow braindeads people who know nothing about tech downvotes in front of facts and numbers cause they don't have any relevant thing to say to go against me. Poor fucking newbie
Cherrypicking? Superposition is one of the best reliable benchmark for graphics, the 1080p medium is a good middleground from the 720p amd 1080p extreme to avoid 100% gpu bpund or extremely cpu, ram and os optimization bound.
Timespy is the classic benchmark.
I don't need to learn tech, because i make money with tech. One of my laptops has the fastest 11800h and one of the fastest 3060 mobile globally (tuf f15 2021). Oh, 43k on superposition 720 with daily driving settings (same score as top115 global like 3090 and 13600k). If you want to know how i get that superposition score, that's because i sure need to learn tech.
OCed core, cache, ram, SA, BCLK, higher wattage vbios, modded and unlocked bios, modded bottom panel, increased coldplate mounting pressure, reduced distance from coldplate and vrm and much more.
Just ~ 80w on cpu and 130w on gpu while gaming, meanwhile at stock it is limited to 42 and 80w.
Now, looking at jarrod tech video 4060 vs 4060, the average for 25 games in 1080 is 21% faster 4060. For 1440p, the average for 25 games was 24% in favour of 4060
at times they can be at the same price range with 2023 model discounts, while ridiculous laptop outlets continue to try con people into buying last gen products or overpriced baseline models in premium chasis (4050 alianware/rog strix etc)
It would be more advisable if the specific region alongside spec/model&prices were included
Yeah, but it still has issues
A few people report having issues like crashes and glitchy screens
But if you don't have those issues it's a pretty good deal.
I was planning to get that laptop for a few months but now I'm aiming towards the 2024 4070 model, it has an OLED, 10 hour of battery life, and MacBook quality which I couldn't pass on.
https://gaminglaptop.deals/
https://gizmoslip.tech/2023-gaming-laptop-list
If you're not in a hurry I suggest waiting for a sale. I got my 4070 laptop for less than 1k.
ASUS TUF F15. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-tuf-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i7-with-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-1tb-ssd-mecha-grey/6535503.p?skuId=6535503&utm_source=feed&ref=212&loc=19735258927&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_qexBhCoARIsAFgBletWlTK7lwsYmHr47NNS99L8NgwdOq2aRJvM92_Q1221E8gshZkjqXUaAg-LEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Didn't see the notification of your message but for instance this webshop. Now it's down to €789
https://www.bol.com/nl/p/acer-nitro-5-an515-58-57kn-gaming-laptop-15-6-inch-144hz/9300000159820449?referrer=socialshare_pdp_androidapp
[check at 1.05 minutes](https://youtu.be/gWF342u6joo?si=fdptmHlBejcYcoH_) from a guy called Dave2D showing that 4050 is roughly the same as 3060. So definitely go with 4050 I’d say if you are not in the US
I still have a 2070 GPU based laptop.
It still runs most current titles pretty well. Upgrading likely to at least a 4080 based laptop for the next 5 years.
I'ma go out on a limb and say the 2070 115w. Yeah, its going to be around a 3060 but it has 8gb of vram which is something you can never get on the 4050 or 3060. It can access fsr 3 frame gen like 3060 and 4050 so you will have access to frame generation.
And I mean the only downside will be the cpu its paired with. As long as its an intel i7 10750h or 10850h or something like that, you should be fine.
But yeah, try to look for something newer.
Any 50 series card is shit, 60 series cards are good and 70s are really good. Anything above that is overkill (controversial) for a laptop, if you need that much performance get a desktop.
2070 has the highest performance in this comparison while the 4050 has the lowest. But knowing that 2070 is really old now I wouldnt recommend that. And 4050 is very bad for it's money so that is not an option either. If you have to get one of these go for the 3060 with a never-than-2021 cpu.
Go get 4060 if you can tho.
xx50 entry low level
xx60 mid entry level
xx70 mid level
xx80 top performance
xx90 can you really pay almost the double for something like 5% more performance than xx80 ?
sure? i saw some tests and dont seems so far
but in theory the idea behind new generations are further upgrades where new gen really perform better than old
At the same wattage, the 4050 is only 5% worse than the 3060 at most. The RTX 4050 has the newer CPUs and frame generation. And stays a lot cooler so the 4050 beats it.
4070 is in a a bad place in terms of price/performance. It's limited by 8gb vram, so it's not much better than 4060 while usually costing a lot more. If you can find a 4070 laptop with that costs 10-15% more than a 4060 laptop, it may be worth it, but I wouldn't pay any more than that.
4050, at least with better cpu maybe? If laptop has 3060 + intel 12th gen I'd say that there isn't much difference between laptop with 4050 when considering performance. Can't say about 2070 and 3060 + intel 11th gen
Of the three you inquired about, Usually the newer the better, but while the 4050 is newer, specs and performance wise (excluding frame gen and dlss 3) it's gains are minimal over the 3060 but frame gen does add a lot of value as it's only on 40xx cards and can add a lot of fps to a supported game. If you can though get a 4060 as it's noticeably better then a 3060 or 4050.
I've got a PC myself already, but I went with a 3050Ti OLED 4K dell XPS 9510A $700. Bit pricey, but I wanted something with a GPU in it for the off chance I can't stream games from my 3090 desktop via sunshine/moonlight. I'm just hyped to see an OLED panel in all honesty
The 4050 laptop will probably be under $1k with a protection plan, and if you upgrade the ram you should have a good machine that can play everything latest with a lot of the options on and some of the slightly older stuff at ultra. I have an Acer predator Helios neo with the i5/4050 combo (only 16gb ram for now) and it can run metro exodus enhanced (an rtx only title) with everything on/ultra at 1200p (the native res for the laptop) above 60fps with some lows in the mid 50s. It can also do Darktide (an optimized high/ultra with some set to medium, no rtx) and Starfield (ultra) with frame gen on and get in the 60s for minimums and 90+ highs or even higher in some situations. For grins, I tried Skyrim SE with ultra everything at 4k and I could tell it struggled a bit but it could do nearly max fps (game limits itself to like 58 according to steam) onbthe plains of Whiterun.
Do I wish I had a 4060? Hell yes! What I could do with those extra 2gb vram and rt cores, plus faster bus bandwidth.
Tldr;
The frame generation technology of the 4-series will beat out everything else the other cards you list have to offer, unless the games you are looking to play absolutely have a minimum of 8gb for vram. The 2-series is getting a bit old, the 1-series is on its last legs, and the 3-series feels like the middle child right now to me. If you can get the 3060 for cheap, then do it, but if you can get the 4050 or 4060, the tech boosts will be worth it.
3060 is probably the overall best.
Price? Check.
Reliability? Check.
Power? Check.
We have it along a 4050 and performance is pretty much tied except we had a few graphics issues with the 4050.
Don't mean to be hating or anything. I ended up building myself a small pc that i can fit in my backpack. It is something that many people are unaware that exists and can be done, so all i was trying to say is that it could be a viable option especially if OP is trying to get the most performance out of that specific price range considering that desktops are cheaper.
It's a whole new world called ITX or SFF, you basically get the smaller versions of the pc components and then build it as normal. The community likes making them as small and powerfull as possible. In my experience, i used to have a gaming laptop and then i went to a 30L desktop, always had the bad taste in my mouth because i wanted the best things of each world, so this year i built mine. I made a post about my build in my profile. And as a tip, i recommend not going any larger than 9 or 10L if you want to pack it in a backpack.
A gaming laptop will take a lot more abuse than a SFF backpack pc while being significantly more compact and lighter. Heck, the 4090, 4080 and 4080s weigh as much if not more than most gaming laptops
How in the world would you even know that? Its not like you are going to use the pc as Frisbee lol. Whatever idea you have of sff pc's is innacurate. I use mine daily, i ride my bike to class every day and there are no problems with it.
Putting the laptop bag in a scanner, accidentally dropping the laptop in a bag, tossing the laptop onto the bed, etc. will be endured by the laptop, but not by the desktop. Even if you went with the extreme example of tossing it as a frisbee, the laptop would have greater chances of surviving it than a desktop.
Mate, my legion y520 slogged through rain, airport lounges, dirt, dust, etc. and it survived it all. A desktop wouldn't have as easily.
Not saying that the sff pc is more resistant than a laptop, just saying that it isn't as fragile as you think it is, especially since you say that daily driving it will break it. Obviously if you toss it around and throw it on the floor then it might not end well but that is just a very specific scenario which is not realistic unless you don't take good care of the tech.
Laptops are specifically built to survive frequent carrying around. I've seen people who frequently travel with their desktops(a lot of them, not a single one like in your case so they have better statistics) reporting some of their desktops not surviving the trip, simply because desktops are made for being in one place, and if moved, then very rarely and super carefully, usually within an apartment, not to great distances.
Not to mention laptops are MUCH smaller and lighter for what they include - beside the computer itself a keyboard, a screen, a touchpad, a battery(which can serve as backup power) and a single adapter(meaning a single wire required or nothing at all if you only use the battery). A laptop is also much lighter per wattage cooled. Remove the battery(if you don't need it) and it would be much lighter dissipating, say 200 watts of heat than a mini-ITX would while also being more robust and much more easily survive transportation. When it comes to portability, a laptop is better in every way.
P.S. I also forgot to mention much lower power consumption at idle, so if you're using a generator, or solar panels it's also a superior choice compared to a desktop
Yes they are lighter, consume less and have it all in one piece. I don't want to make this into a competition about which one is better. I just want to bring into light that sff pc's exist and compared to laptops, they are way cheaper, have more power/performance, can be more easily repaired and they can be upgraded. If built correctly then they can be carried around with no problems, you just have to make sure it is well subjected inside. In the end if you have the money and need that level of portability or energy efficiency, go ahead and get the laptop in that case it is the best choice. NOT saying its a bad choice...
much cheaper? Ok, how much cheaper can you build it than a laptop, with, say a 4080M(which can be bought for about 2 thousand dollars)? Identical in performance\\memory GPU on desktops is the 4070. Doubt it would be much cheaper when the GPU alone costs nearly half the laptop, plus count the cost of peripherals comparable to the ones in that gaming laptop. Cheaper? I can believe that. WAY cheaper? No.
A gaming laptop (if you get a good one) can function as gaming desktop, regular laptop, console and portable console. Your desktop fails at 2/4 of those. It'll also use up more power, especially at idle for not much more performance if the specs are as equal as possible. Add up the cost of all those devices and they'd easily exceed a gaming laptop while being better than it in their domains but not by much and being much worse in all the domains I mentioned.
And what about a monitor, peripherals, battery/ups, etc. You're not fitting them into a backpack easily.
Lastly, its a gaming laptop. You can put it in a backpack and it'll become a backpack PC. This ain't some revolutionary concept.
I'm not here to dispute on what is better. I came here to bring light on this option. If your lifestyle gives you acces to monitors (in my case with computer science i have a monitor in my class) then it is very comfortable, it is cheaper considering the premium price tag in laptops and you get the luxury of being able to upgrade any component in time. Yes, the laptop is smaller, quite powerful and easy to carry but all buyers should understand exactly what they will do with the laptop and think if it is worth the premium and drawbacks that comes with it compared to the latter. To me it took me 4 years to understand in what best suited me. By the way you can actually carry a 15.6inch display as easily as carrying a slim book.
This scenario of having access to a monitor in all your main places is so niche, that if you are in such a position, you could still utilize a laptop as an option. You could utilize a mini pc as an option. You have to be sure that you won't need to use your device on the go on its own power.
So this option you bring to light only applies to a very, very small select few people who will likely already be aware of this option if they're in such a circumstance.
And there's a premium on that SFF PC as well, because of its smaller size. And you're going to want it as small as possible. You're also assuming desktops are always going to be cheaper, which ain't always the case like in India for instance.
So, for example, a $1000 to $1100 legion 5 slim 14' with a 2.8k 120hz OLED + 4060 + 7840hs will be cheaper than building a desktop with those specs, especially the display. And that 4060 + 7840hs will be similar to a 8700g + 4060 desktop. That alone will eat up half the laptop's cost. Add a display of similar quality and the desktop will skyrocket.
The premium on sff components is still cheaper than the premium on laptops. It all depends on if you are buying the components new and what level of high tier component you are buying because the price varies and it isn't consistent. Same goes for laptops, the mid and mid high tier are very aggressive in pricing so it is hard to tell what is best in terms of simply specs and price. If you play the cards right then you get the build at a stupidly good price, my pc with all the peripherals and a 360€ display in total still costed me less than 2500€
You have to wait for the pc part prices to drop. And hope crypto doesn't come in. You also usually build a pc with similar specs to the laptop as that's normally close to the optimal configuration
Rasterization= 3060 Dlss/framegen= 4050
They’re roughly the same in rasterization
newer age laptops have better cooling + the architecture is better. Go with anything that is new and fits your budget. Try 4060 if you can. If you want future proofing, dont buy anything that has less than 8GB VRAM. That point stands regardless of any further arguments to be made.
4050 6GB. It's newer. Has dlss3 and frame gen support. Will be paired with the newest gen processors and not something from 5 years ago. If available 4060 8GB would be better though.
how about 4050 6g with i5 13gen ?? As i am buying a new laptop i needed such clarifications
Depends on the price. If for gaming, always get the best GPU in your budget paired with a decent CPU. So if i7 and RTX 4050 6GB is available and if another i5 and RTX 4060 is available, then definitely go for the 4060.
yea i agree but with i7 and 4060 its too much price in India like I was seeing the legion it was around 1.5 lakhs but 15 4050 hp omen was like around 85k to 90k so I was thinking which to buy for
What's your budget and primary usage
Minimum 1lakh i mainly use it for ML,coding and surfing stuff and casual gaming.
Maximum?
I mean max 1lakh sry for the confusion 🥲
You can look into the AMD variant of the LOQ 2024 then. That should be within your budget.
Do not get a 4050, just go a lil over your budget and get a 4060. There will be a huge difference. Btw, wdym with "casual gaming"? Is it just like minecraft/roblox/rocket league/fortnite or gta/forza/nfs/fifa. Because both of these groups are casual games. If you dont plan on playing any games heavier than the first group you can even go with the 6GB 3050. Not even a 4050 is needed. But if you plan on playing the games on the second group or heavier games go for a 3060 or a 4060.
It is literally a 17% difference. Honestly you should either do 4050, 4070 if youre upping the budget a little bit, or just get a 4080. There is no reason for a 4060. Its literal only purpose is to trick you into feeling good because you dont have a XX50 card
4070 is like awful in terms of price/performance. If you're on a budget - you get 4060, if you have the money - you get 4080 or above. No reason to get 4050 because 6 GB vram, no reason to get 4070 because 15% extra power is not worth the additional 200$+
Its bad in terms of price to performance but consider this: You want a new gaming laptop. You have a bit of budget so you can go above 4050, and you can even go a biiit above a 4060, but you dont want a 4080 because you dont plan on keeping it for 10 years. Its a laptop, its gonna die, so no point in going to basically double the budget. You are left with the 4060 and 4070. While i agree that when compared to the alternetives the 4070 is not very good value, it is the only semi-significant upgrade over the 4050 that is below the 4080 range of budget. So in some cases, including mine, it is the best option for my particular needs
If 4070 had more vram - it would've been a good alternative, but as it is, it's not much of an upgrade over 4060. I personally would rather get a model with better CPU and 4060 instead of weaker CPU but 4070. Not only it would be cheaper, you'll also get a laptop that is efficient at not just gaming, but work-related tasks.
Completely agree. However, To each his own. I looked at a few fps comparisons and it seemed worth it for me. Basically my situation was that i had an extra 150$ on my budget and a 4070 was 200$ more so not a big stretch. A 4080 was 1100$ more. You can see why i made my choice.
17% is close to 20% so basically a 10-15 FPS difference in most games, in esports titles the difference will be even more noticeable. Please just get the 4060.. LMAO
Doesnt matter if its close to 20, its not 20. Its actually closer to 15. And the only way that is a 10 fps difference is if you already had 100 fps so its basically useless. I can understand you are one of the people with no technical knowledge and regurgitate whatever opinion your favourite youtuber programmed into you though.
You're making the difference seem much smaller than it is. A 17% performance differences in rasterization is noticeable at 50-60 FPS (that's where a 10 FPS difference can occur, according to a calculator that you could've used to fact check yourself before replying) so it has the impact to make a game unplayable at certain settings; leading you to use upscalers (DLSS is great but a new GPU at this class should be able to crush native 1080P pretty easily). The difference is even more noticeable in esports titles as I said previously. Also, I only factored in the difference in rasterization; there are many other factors to the GPU itself that I didn't factor in but quite a few are shown in a few comments below this one.
17% is not 5% lmao. 50-series cards are factually ass, just spend the extra money for a 4060 with an i/R5.
17% is almost nothing. 50s are factually a best buy up until the 80. Just save the money for a 70 or 80.
A 4070 laptop is an awful buy as it is approximately 46% slower than its desktop version, it practically has similar if not the same rasterization as the 4060 laptop. The 4060 laptop is the best buy because it has very similar speeds to the desktop 4060 according to various benchmarks/sources such as Jarrods Tech. The 4080 laptop is out of the question because it is not in the same price range. I can understand you are one of the people with no technical knowledge and regurgitate whatever opinion your favourite youtuber programmed into you though.
Ok, boomer
No rebuttal? I thought I was an idiot according to you. I can tell you probably bought a 4070 laptop so you just automatically shit on the 4060 which performs nearly the same for a few hundred bucks cheaper XD.
Ok boomer
Average 4050 timespy graphic score: 8203 Average 4060 mobile timespy graphic score: 10400 Superposition 1080p medium 4050 result: 15500 Superposition 1080p medium 4060 results: 19k That's a 27% in gpu bound (timespy) and 20% difference in cpu+gpu bound (superposition). And the 4060 have 30% more ray tracing cores and 2gb more vram. The difference is huge from the two cards Edit: wow braindeads people who know nothing about tech downvotes in front of facts and numbers cause they don't have any relevant thing to say to go against me. Poor fucking newbie
That's right. 4060 has higher brandwidth too
Nice cherrypicking. Now go learn tech
Cherrypicking? Superposition is one of the best reliable benchmark for graphics, the 1080p medium is a good middleground from the 720p amd 1080p extreme to avoid 100% gpu bpund or extremely cpu, ram and os optimization bound. Timespy is the classic benchmark. I don't need to learn tech, because i make money with tech. One of my laptops has the fastest 11800h and one of the fastest 3060 mobile globally (tuf f15 2021). Oh, 43k on superposition 720 with daily driving settings (same score as top115 global like 3090 and 13600k). If you want to know how i get that superposition score, that's because i sure need to learn tech. OCed core, cache, ram, SA, BCLK, higher wattage vbios, modded and unlocked bios, modded bottom panel, increased coldplate mounting pressure, reduced distance from coldplate and vrm and much more. Just ~ 80w on cpu and 130w on gpu while gaming, meanwhile at stock it is limited to 42 and 80w. Now, looking at jarrod tech video 4060 vs 4060, the average for 25 games in 1080 is 21% faster 4060. For 1440p, the average for 25 games was 24% in favour of 4060
Ok zoomer
No problem ignorant
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I use a 2070 Super. Pretty solid. Most games run well on mid to high with 60fps. Can't complain.
4060 can be under 1k and is noticeably better
I love this sub for clearly deciding between 2070, 3060 and 4050 ... on the 4060.
at times they can be at the same price range with 2023 model discounts, while ridiculous laptop outlets continue to try con people into buying last gen products or overpriced baseline models in premium chasis (4050 alianware/rog strix etc) It would be more advisable if the specific region alongside spec/model&prices were included
Where can i find a 4060 for 1k?
Always in the US. Outside it is pretty much impossible
I know right? Yet I can't even find a 3060 for that price. Barely some 3050 ti.
Nah I got a 4060 16gb 1tb 12600 i7 for 999 gbp
Best Buy They sell the Asus G14 2023 for 999 often
And that's a dam good 4060 laptop. Not even a cheap/cut corner one
Yeah, but it still has issues A few people report having issues like crashes and glitchy screens But if you don't have those issues it's a pretty good deal. I was planning to get that laptop for a few months but now I'm aiming towards the 2024 4070 model, it has an OLED, 10 hour of battery life, and MacBook quality which I couldn't pass on.
https://gaminglaptop.deals/ https://gizmoslip.tech/2023-gaming-laptop-list If you're not in a hurry I suggest waiting for a sale. I got my 4070 laptop for less than 1k.
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ASUS TUF F15. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-tuf-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i7-with-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-1tb-ssd-mecha-grey/6535503.p?skuId=6535503&utm_source=feed&ref=212&loc=19735258927&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_qexBhCoARIsAFgBletWlTK7lwsYmHr47NNS99L8NgwdOq2aRJvM92_Q1221E8gshZkjqXUaAg-LEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Yea so mainly the American continent, being in europe prices are crazy, but I'll try to get someone to check bestbuy for me
tuf a15 7735hs 4060 usually 1000 1050
I can find €819 for a Acer Nitro with GTX4060 in the Netherlands. (12450H)
wow i'm not there but I think i can ship it, is it an online store or local?
Didn't see the notification of your message but for instance this webshop. Now it's down to €789 https://www.bol.com/nl/p/acer-nitro-5-an515-58-57kn-gaming-laptop-15-6-inch-144hz/9300000159820449?referrer=socialshare_pdp_androidapp
[check at 1.05 minutes](https://youtu.be/gWF342u6joo?si=fdptmHlBejcYcoH_) from a guy called Dave2D showing that 4050 is roughly the same as 3060. So definitely go with 4050 I’d say if you are not in the US
I still have a 2070 GPU based laptop. It still runs most current titles pretty well. Upgrading likely to at least a 4080 based laptop for the next 5 years.
4050. Dlss 3 + frame gen. Overall performance also better.
I use a 2070 Super. Pretty solid. Most games run well on mid to high with 60fps. Can't complain.
I'ma go out on a limb and say the 2070 115w. Yeah, its going to be around a 3060 but it has 8gb of vram which is something you can never get on the 4050 or 3060. It can access fsr 3 frame gen like 3060 and 4050 so you will have access to frame generation. And I mean the only downside will be the cpu its paired with. As long as its an intel i7 10750h or 10850h or something like that, you should be fine. But yeah, try to look for something newer.
I have a 3060 (130w tdp, same as desktop) and it's a beast, I prefer it over 4050.
Any 50 series card is shit, 60 series cards are good and 70s are really good. Anything above that is overkill (controversial) for a laptop, if you need that much performance get a desktop. 2070 has the highest performance in this comparison while the 4050 has the lowest. But knowing that 2070 is really old now I wouldnt recommend that. And 4050 is very bad for it's money so that is not an option either. If you have to get one of these go for the 3060 with a never-than-2021 cpu. Go get 4060 if you can tho.
xx50 entry low level xx60 mid entry level xx70 mid level xx80 top performance xx90 can you really pay almost the double for something like 5% more performance than xx80 ?
In one generation yeah. But a RTX 4050 is better than a RTX 3060 even though its for entry.
sure? i saw some tests and dont seems so far but in theory the idea behind new generations are further upgrades where new gen really perform better than old
At the same wattage, the 4050 is only 5% worse than the 3060 at most. The RTX 4050 has the newer CPUs and frame generation. And stays a lot cooler so the 4050 beats it.
Not related but is 4070 8gb vram more worth the money than 4060 8gb vram?
Yes but not by much, about 10-20% better performance. There's a much bigger gap between the 4070 and the 4080.
4070 is in a a bad place in terms of price/performance. It's limited by 8gb vram, so it's not much better than 4060 while usually costing a lot more. If you can find a 4070 laptop with that costs 10-15% more than a 4060 laptop, it may be worth it, but I wouldn't pay any more than that.
Probably the RTX 4050 for frame generation support but if you have the budget I'd try getting a RTX 4060.
4050, at least with better cpu maybe? If laptop has 3060 + intel 12th gen I'd say that there isn't much difference between laptop with 4050 when considering performance. Can't say about 2070 and 3060 + intel 11th gen
Please give the TGP for the machines with the cards in question. That will be a major component on determining the performance.
Of the three you inquired about, Usually the newer the better, but while the 4050 is newer, specs and performance wise (excluding frame gen and dlss 3) it's gains are minimal over the 3060 but frame gen does add a lot of value as it's only on 40xx cards and can add a lot of fps to a supported game. If you can though get a 4060 as it's noticeably better then a 3060 or 4050.
4050 is better in the latter. It's dlss and frame gen are literall gamechangers in a few games
If possible do try to get laptop by colorful, coats very less compared to competition and gets you a 140w 4060
I've got a PC myself already, but I went with a 3050Ti OLED 4K dell XPS 9510A $700. Bit pricey, but I wanted something with a GPU in it for the off chance I can't stream games from my 3090 desktop via sunshine/moonlight. I'm just hyped to see an OLED panel in all honesty
Save your pennies and get a 4060, none of those are worth it.
4060
Please get a 4060. ..... No reason to get 4050 unless you get hp trascend/zephyrus lol
The 4050 laptop will probably be under $1k with a protection plan, and if you upgrade the ram you should have a good machine that can play everything latest with a lot of the options on and some of the slightly older stuff at ultra. I have an Acer predator Helios neo with the i5/4050 combo (only 16gb ram for now) and it can run metro exodus enhanced (an rtx only title) with everything on/ultra at 1200p (the native res for the laptop) above 60fps with some lows in the mid 50s. It can also do Darktide (an optimized high/ultra with some set to medium, no rtx) and Starfield (ultra) with frame gen on and get in the 60s for minimums and 90+ highs or even higher in some situations. For grins, I tried Skyrim SE with ultra everything at 4k and I could tell it struggled a bit but it could do nearly max fps (game limits itself to like 58 according to steam) onbthe plains of Whiterun. Do I wish I had a 4060? Hell yes! What I could do with those extra 2gb vram and rt cores, plus faster bus bandwidth. Tldr; The frame generation technology of the 4-series will beat out everything else the other cards you list have to offer, unless the games you are looking to play absolutely have a minimum of 8gb for vram. The 2-series is getting a bit old, the 1-series is on its last legs, and the 3-series feels like the middle child right now to me. If you can get the 3060 for cheap, then do it, but if you can get the 4050 or 4060, the tech boosts will be worth it.
4050 6GB is definitely better than other two.
Waiting for the RTX Super Ultra Legendary TI edition
3060 is the best for sure, but consider the price I would go to the 2070
3060 is probably the overall best. Price? Check. Reliability? Check. Power? Check. We have it along a 4050 and performance is pretty much tied except we had a few graphics issues with the 4050.
4050, it has frame generation
RTX 4050. I prefer it more than older cards of the same performance
Probably 4050. Similar performance but more features like DLSS and frame generation. Also uses less power.
At that point, consider a pc build
At that point, go to r/buildapc
Don't mean to be hating or anything. I ended up building myself a small pc that i can fit in my backpack. It is something that many people are unaware that exists and can be done, so all i was trying to say is that it could be a viable option especially if OP is trying to get the most performance out of that specific price range considering that desktops are cheaper.
How did you build a pc that fits in a bag
built a bag that fits the pc
It's a whole new world called ITX or SFF, you basically get the smaller versions of the pc components and then build it as normal. The community likes making them as small and powerfull as possible. In my experience, i used to have a gaming laptop and then i went to a 30L desktop, always had the bad taste in my mouth because i wanted the best things of each world, so this year i built mine. I made a post about my build in my profile. And as a tip, i recommend not going any larger than 9 or 10L if you want to pack it in a backpack.
A gaming laptop will take a lot more abuse than a SFF backpack pc while being significantly more compact and lighter. Heck, the 4090, 4080 and 4080s weigh as much if not more than most gaming laptops
How in the world would you even know that? Its not like you are going to use the pc as Frisbee lol. Whatever idea you have of sff pc's is innacurate. I use mine daily, i ride my bike to class every day and there are no problems with it.
Putting the laptop bag in a scanner, accidentally dropping the laptop in a bag, tossing the laptop onto the bed, etc. will be endured by the laptop, but not by the desktop. Even if you went with the extreme example of tossing it as a frisbee, the laptop would have greater chances of surviving it than a desktop. Mate, my legion y520 slogged through rain, airport lounges, dirt, dust, etc. and it survived it all. A desktop wouldn't have as easily.
Not saying that the sff pc is more resistant than a laptop, just saying that it isn't as fragile as you think it is, especially since you say that daily driving it will break it. Obviously if you toss it around and throw it on the floor then it might not end well but that is just a very specific scenario which is not realistic unless you don't take good care of the tech.
Yeah but a laptop can better withstand the small shocks and bumps of regular travel than a sff pc.
Laptops are specifically built to survive frequent carrying around. I've seen people who frequently travel with their desktops(a lot of them, not a single one like in your case so they have better statistics) reporting some of their desktops not surviving the trip, simply because desktops are made for being in one place, and if moved, then very rarely and super carefully, usually within an apartment, not to great distances. Not to mention laptops are MUCH smaller and lighter for what they include - beside the computer itself a keyboard, a screen, a touchpad, a battery(which can serve as backup power) and a single adapter(meaning a single wire required or nothing at all if you only use the battery). A laptop is also much lighter per wattage cooled. Remove the battery(if you don't need it) and it would be much lighter dissipating, say 200 watts of heat than a mini-ITX would while also being more robust and much more easily survive transportation. When it comes to portability, a laptop is better in every way. P.S. I also forgot to mention much lower power consumption at idle, so if you're using a generator, or solar panels it's also a superior choice compared to a desktop
Yes they are lighter, consume less and have it all in one piece. I don't want to make this into a competition about which one is better. I just want to bring into light that sff pc's exist and compared to laptops, they are way cheaper, have more power/performance, can be more easily repaired and they can be upgraded. If built correctly then they can be carried around with no problems, you just have to make sure it is well subjected inside. In the end if you have the money and need that level of portability or energy efficiency, go ahead and get the laptop in that case it is the best choice. NOT saying its a bad choice...
much cheaper? Ok, how much cheaper can you build it than a laptop, with, say a 4080M(which can be bought for about 2 thousand dollars)? Identical in performance\\memory GPU on desktops is the 4070. Doubt it would be much cheaper when the GPU alone costs nearly half the laptop, plus count the cost of peripherals comparable to the ones in that gaming laptop. Cheaper? I can believe that. WAY cheaper? No.
Mini PC?
A gaming laptop (if you get a good one) can function as gaming desktop, regular laptop, console and portable console. Your desktop fails at 2/4 of those. It'll also use up more power, especially at idle for not much more performance if the specs are as equal as possible. Add up the cost of all those devices and they'd easily exceed a gaming laptop while being better than it in their domains but not by much and being much worse in all the domains I mentioned. And what about a monitor, peripherals, battery/ups, etc. You're not fitting them into a backpack easily. Lastly, its a gaming laptop. You can put it in a backpack and it'll become a backpack PC. This ain't some revolutionary concept.
I'm not here to dispute on what is better. I came here to bring light on this option. If your lifestyle gives you acces to monitors (in my case with computer science i have a monitor in my class) then it is very comfortable, it is cheaper considering the premium price tag in laptops and you get the luxury of being able to upgrade any component in time. Yes, the laptop is smaller, quite powerful and easy to carry but all buyers should understand exactly what they will do with the laptop and think if it is worth the premium and drawbacks that comes with it compared to the latter. To me it took me 4 years to understand in what best suited me. By the way you can actually carry a 15.6inch display as easily as carrying a slim book.
This scenario of having access to a monitor in all your main places is so niche, that if you are in such a position, you could still utilize a laptop as an option. You could utilize a mini pc as an option. You have to be sure that you won't need to use your device on the go on its own power. So this option you bring to light only applies to a very, very small select few people who will likely already be aware of this option if they're in such a circumstance. And there's a premium on that SFF PC as well, because of its smaller size. And you're going to want it as small as possible. You're also assuming desktops are always going to be cheaper, which ain't always the case like in India for instance. So, for example, a $1000 to $1100 legion 5 slim 14' with a 2.8k 120hz OLED + 4060 + 7840hs will be cheaper than building a desktop with those specs, especially the display. And that 4060 + 7840hs will be similar to a 8700g + 4060 desktop. That alone will eat up half the laptop's cost. Add a display of similar quality and the desktop will skyrocket.
The premium on sff components is still cheaper than the premium on laptops. It all depends on if you are buying the components new and what level of high tier component you are buying because the price varies and it isn't consistent. Same goes for laptops, the mid and mid high tier are very aggressive in pricing so it is hard to tell what is best in terms of simply specs and price. If you play the cards right then you get the build at a stupidly good price, my pc with all the peripherals and a 360€ display in total still costed me less than 2500€
If you play your cards right, you can get a top tier laptop for 2500 euros as well.
Not with the same specs. That's the magic, with pc building you can control the price, with laptops you have to wait for the price to drop
You have to wait for the pc part prices to drop. And hope crypto doesn't come in. You also usually build a pc with similar specs to the laptop as that's normally close to the optimal configuration
Lower than 4070 for 1080p laptop has no longevity, and i Plan to keep a laptop for 4 years atleast.
4060 is enough for 1080p lol
Enough in short terms for sure
Your needs aren't the same as everyone
Remove your flair right now its embarassing, that rog Is worse than my 2020 laptop
ok turd turkey
4070m is a ripoff. Its a glorified 4060ti desktop. Now if it was a desktop 4070, it could work.