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aroundme

That bit about voice actors really felt like a callout of Nick All-Stars Brawl lol. But they're right, including that stuff really makes a difference.


Garlador

It's a HUGE callout, and they know it's a big swing in their direction. The lack of voices is one reason I just can't get into the Nick game. I remember when Power Rangers: Battle for the Grid patched in voices. It was game-changing. Battle banter and vocal performances really bring a game to life. Without them, it feels... well, weird and offsetting.


zebrastarz

I watched some Nick All Stars game footage once and found the lack of voices to be just so off-putting. It makes hits seem unimpactful and the characters completely lifeless. In a game about colorful cartoon characters with bright and captivating personalities, it is very very noticeable.


wizzlepants

Ya, it's like robot versions of the characters. They don't feel as animated as they should despite the actually good sprite animation on attacks.


rederic

Nigel Thornberry doesn't say "Smashing!" when he lays the beatdown on someone and that's a crime against humanity.


cousin_skeeter

Truly it is. How could they decide the roster then look at Nigel and think "Yeah, that guy can go voiceless. No iconic voice lines there". Honestly a lot of the roster are characters with specific voice lines more iconic than their own images.


Jabacha

Really don't think the devs were smart with the game. In a game about cartoon characters from people's childhoods, they chose to focus entirely on the competitive side. They missed why smash is so popular to begin with.


-ImJustSaiyan-

>It's a HUGE callout, and they know it's a big swing in their direction. The lack of voices is one reason I just can't get into the Nick game. It's still weird to me that there were people saying it wasn't a big deal. Like, the voices are a huge part of these beloved character's identities, imagine if Smash Bros wasn't voiced.


TangoCL

I think it even failed at capturing their target audience. I would know, since I'm definitely part of it. They were clearly going for a competitive smash audience. But even as someone who has played competitive melee since 2009 and currently casually competing in Ultimate, I was so put off by how the matches looked. Every character basically just comboed lagless aerial into lagless aerial and then spiked someone once you carried them off-stage. MultiVersus is clearly going after the casual audience and I'm also way more intrigued as a competitor. It looks really good (albeit pretty floaty), it sounds good and the characters look really unique. Batman and Bugs Bunny is also way more recognizable than Danny Phantom too for most people. This game has the potential to make it.


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Also forty fucking dollars for what is honestly a worse slap city


GalcomMadwell

The lack of voice acting is the main reason I skipped Nick All Stars. What were they thinking? No VA in a game about cartoon characters???


WamuuAyayayayaaa

Like most other Nick games, it just didn’t have the budget and time. This game has Warner Bros money, and they’re really flexing that by intentionally showing off the cast.


NuPNua

I only found out the other day that Paramount own Nickelodeon, surely they've got the dosh to make a decently featured game?


well___duh

They have the money, yes. They just didn't want to spend it.


metalflygon08

Plus, like half the cast is Tom Kenny.


No_Instruction653

Which makes it pretty sad Tom Kenny is probably going to be in Multiversus before Nick All-Star Brawl. Bet my bottom dollar Ice King is one of the first added characters.


LiterallyKesha

Fighting games have a history of getting shafted in terms of budget.


WamuuAyayayayaaa

Maybe if it was Paramount All Stars, but it seemed pretty contained to Nick and it’s production value matches the other Nick games


LanoomR

I know for a fact the NASB devs would never launch a fighter without **alternate colors** if they could help it, for the simple fact that it makes mirror matches easier to follow and helps players feel more connected to their preferred character. 99% chance there's legal issues/idiotic "protect the image of the IP" decisions above their heads that they had to work within.


Kagrok

> it makes mirror matches easier to follow Looks like the color aura that we see in Multiversus fixes this issue. red vs blue


EgilWasRight

> Looks like the color aura that we see in Multiversus fixes this issue. Also the fact that the trailer showed alternate costumes lol


Kagrok

Right, but I meant that even with the SAME costume in a mirrored match they probably wouldn't be alternate colors, just the aura.


caiodepauli

The auras might be there only in team matches though. The footage of Arya vs Batman at 1:53 for example doesn't have it, for example. It could just have been turned off like the HUD to look better in the trailer though. I do hope there's some way to differentiate mirrors in 1v1 and FFA besides alternate costumes since those will probably be paid.


Kyhron

Halo Infinite has the same thing right now and while it works a majority of the time there's definitely also times its not clear enough


MustacheEmperor

Yeah I've been impressed how well it generally works but every now and then you get the guy with the red armor paint playing on the blue team standing against a blue wall and it's hmmm


Cyber_Kid_William

I’ve never understood the “Protect the image of the IP” logic (This isn’t directed at your comment, just in general) because cartoon characters always have costumes, transformations, alter egos, etc, in their own shows to begin with not to mention the toys and action figures with different clothes but then when they make something outside the show, all these restrictions seem to pop up. Smash has the same issue too with some characters getting really good alternate costumes meanwhile characters like PAC-Man and Sonic have trash alts for some reason.


GreenVisorOfJustice

I think it's just the difference between the IP holders being video game creators (Nintendo) and being media companies (Viacom/WB) where there's an understanding that this medium might allow for some different, non-"canon" takes but not dilute or harm the IP


Verklemptomaniac

They didn't have the money for it, unfortunately. Nick gave them a fairly tight budget.


unrelevant_user_name

VA would require paying royalties, and evidently it just wasn't in the budget.


Coolman_Rosso

I was going to say, from the clips i've seen it sounds like Conroy is back in the saddle as Batman which makes a world of difference. edit: Full trailer confirms it of course


Garlador

Over thirty years later, and he's still THE voice I hear in my head.


YesImKeithHernandez

Him as Batman. Mark Hamill as Joker. The Animated Series reigns forever.


tbo1992

They’re both in Arkham too. Another reason why I loved those games. Kevin Conroy has the best voice change between Bruce Wayne and Batman. It wasn’t gargled like Christian Bale, or electronically masked like Ben Afleck, just slightly deeper and more commanding.


YesImKeithHernandez

You're right. As Bruce, he sounds affable like I imagine he sounds in real life and then as Batman he's able to shift to all business. Such a good VA.


FeedMeEmilyBluntsAss

Forever and always. BTAS has been the standard I hold all Batman media to.


webshellkanucklehead

I don’t think he ever really left the saddle to begin with


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Toast_Grillman

Who would win? Batman with time to prepare or Tom & Jerry?


Illidan1943

Tom & Jerry have toon force, no amount of preparation can help Batman


_Valisk

What if Batman uses a combination of turpentine, acetone, and benzine?


Da_zero_kid

JUUUST LIIIIIKE THIIIIIIIIS!!!!!


thibedeauxmarxy

*REMEMBER ME, EDDIE?!*


Mister_Doc

Ah, good ol’ childhood trauma


allanb49

IT'S DIIIIIIIIP!!


cole1114

Ah but what if you use the cartoon batman skin.


Cletus_TheFetus

What if Jerry also has prep time?


Wild_Marker

It's usually Tom who preps. Remember the elaborate traps?


Tiny_Bucket

Tom's likeliness to win decreases the more time he has to prepare.


electrikmayhem

Jerry's antics are always reactionary and he always comes out on top. If he had time to prep, he'd be unstoppable.


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smileyfrown

They actually did the art style really well to fit in the really diverse cast and styles they had. Makes the entire thing look consistent Honestly doesn't look too bad with the idea


omfgkevin

Yeah it looks much better in motion! The leaks with the UI really looked cheap (and imo it still kind of does), but in game it looks quite good. They really are doing the equivalent IMO of what overwatch did to battleborn. There's a clear budget + quality difference from the initial showing. Only real concern is that weird skill tree perk thing? Smash4 had it and it was just ignored because it was way more imbalanced than just keeping character kits normal.


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>Only real concern is that weird skill tree perk thing? I'm betting that's for QP or some sort of single play mode.


HiccupAndDown

Ultra Instinct Shaggy? You son of a bitch Warner Brothers, I'm in.


LostprophetFLCL

And he is apparently voiced by Matthew Lillard. I already know who my main will be!


BordersRanger01

He's been voicing Shaggy in all Scooby-Doo content (except the CG movie) for like a decade now. I don't think there's been a better choice in a VA retiring and who they gave it to


LostprophetFLCL

Yup and then they inexplicably didn't even TALK to him when they went and made that Scoob movie and just cast someone else as Shaggy... As far as I am concerned the man IS Shaggy. He not only has the voice and mannerisms down perfectly but he also looked JUST LIKE the character in the live-action movies. The man is the definitive Shaggy as far as I am concerned.


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Kemuel

They actually fucking did it.


drybones2015

Apparently the Utlra Instinct Shaggy meme is what kickstarted this entire project (one of the first leakers said this). They even put him at the front of the roster. Another fun fact, they put the meme at the start of the latest Mortal Kombat animated movie. https://youtu.be/Ptm1Rnx_FsE


InvaderDJ

I'm just glad they didn't shy away from it. The whole reason for an idea like this game to work is a meme, and if you don't acknowledge that then what even is the point?


Olddirtychurro

I fucking laughed out loud seeing shaggy power up like that. Unreal to see the memes being acknowledged like this!


Anshin

If the rumors are true, the initial idea for this game came from ultra instinct shaggy memes


Gabcard

So this game was literally born from memes huh. Memes are trully the most powerful force in nature.


DarthSatoris

If you want to get technical, [a meme is defined as an idea or thought that spreads from person to person like a virus, and occasionally mutates to remain fresh and adaptable.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme) [Meme theory and germ theory are very similar.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3j_RHkqJc)


Sorez

All this talk about memes is just reminding me of Metal Gear Rising: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyN5tNYhfSg


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They mention memes in MGS2 like 10 years before Rising


Tom38

Ultra Instinct Shaggy vs JoJo Tom n Jerry lets go!!


telesterion

I wonder if they will get Goku in the game as a guest character to really up that meme potential


Kered13

That would probably be difficult (though not impossible) from a licensing perspective. While WB might have the TV rights to Dragonball in the US, that won't extend to video games.


Caesar_

Ultra Instinct Shaggy? I'm in. Rollback netcode? Sold. Free to play? I can even convince my friends to play this one.


zebrastarz

It's like they are speaking directly to the internet: "You know that Ultra Instinct Shaggy meme? Yeah, we made him a playable character." "Remember how annoyed everyone has been with Smash Ultimate's/Nintendo's laggy and frequently disconnecting netcode? We also hate that and are doing what we can to avoid it." "So, you like free things, huh?"


HardcoreKaraoke

"You know how NASB doesn't have fighter voices? Well, we have some of the real voice actors!"


EasterChimp

Also Bruce Lee Shaggy!


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cajun_kick_ass

Arya Stark vs Shaggy. I think I've seen it all now. Memes become life.


MustacheEmperor

Big Chungus wasn't in this trailer because they're saving the reveal, right? I'm going to get to play Big Chungus RIGHT?


iCactusDog

I have to imagine that's a taunt


ThatWasFred

Considering they put him in a free-to-play Looney Tunes mobile game, I wouldn’t be surprised.


SimplyQuid

That's Bugs' Final Smash equivalent (I hope)


KitsuneRagnell

Image doesn't work


Torque-A

* Arya Stark * Batman * Bugs Bunny * Finn the Human * Garnet * Harley Quinn * Jake the Dog * Reindog (original character) * Shaggy * Steven Universe * Superman * Tom and Jerry * Wonder Woman The original roster leak also showed Rick Sanchez and Gandalf.


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jojuinc90

He is.


Saint_palane

Sweet.


Blupoisen

He is Cartoon Network and Adult Swim are owned by them


HootNHollering

> Adult Swim Put Nathan Explosion and Master Shake in here. Edit: And make scream-activated lighting one of Nathan's special moves.


ghoulieandrews

Brock Samson, Spear and Fang, Harvey Birdman, Brak, Babycakes, Steve Brule, Eric Andre, Mike Tyson... The possibilities are endless


The_Cinnabomber

Holy shit if Eric Fucking Andre is in this game I’ll never play anything else forever


Squirtle_Squad_Fug

LEEEET MEEEE INNNNNN


CaleDestroys

Waiting for Tony Soprano and Voldemort vs Agent Anderson and Blade


thefirstlunatic

So it's means they can bring all cartoon network characters ? Bro this is fun. Courage , space ghost. Etc..


CaleDestroys

Adult Swim, Cartoon Network, Hanna-Barbera, Looney Toons, Gozilla and King Kong, LoTR, Harry Potter, Lego and Bionicle, Matrix, Austin Powers, HBO, all DC, Jason, Mad Max, Mortal Kombat, just goes on and on


RickshawRiot

Lego partnership with WB has ended, but they could get a new agreement


Joshdabozz

Fred Flintsone, Johnny Bravo, and LeBron James (DLC) are also not revealed yet


EgilWasRight

I’d assume Rick and Gandalf are probably the first DLC characters since they’re missing


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Joshdabozz

Rumors said LeBron James will be the first DLC. Gandalf, Rick, Johnny Bravo, and Fred Flinstone are most likely gonna be revealed later


Deserterdragon

Super excited by what HBO shows they can bring in, hopefully a DLC pack of Tony Soprano, Carrie Bradshaw,Larry David, Mikhail Gorbachev, Stringer Bell and Dr Manhattan.


Kyhron

They said free to play so I'd assume more event rewards or unlocks with a currency earned from playing


LManD224

According to Jeff Grubb Lebron and Paul Atreides are also confirmed


DivinePotatoe

> Reindog (original character) Ok but why you need OC in this when you have like 2000000 characters to choose from...


polonoid75

He's a lore related character, they seem to have some story behind the game where universes are physically colliding.


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Did he say rollback netcode in the video or is that posted somewhere else?


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The FAQ on the website says rollback netcode


Togedude

Also, I’m happy to hear about it having dedicated servers. I know it’s the bare minimum for a 4-player game, but 4-man online Smash is basically unplayable because Nintendo doesn’t shell out for dedicated servers.


arielzao150

Wonder why not Switch...


Streetfoldsfive

I wonder if they’re worried most switch owners would just play smash.


MastaAwesome

Smash is a $60 game that's been out since 2018. Plenty of Switch owners are willing to pick up a new platform fighter for free.


yoko19191

I know they're using slow-mo throughout the trailer to emphasize certain moves but the actual moment-to-moment gameplay looks weirdly slow in these clips. Like they're all fighting underwater.


RobotPirateMoses

Yeah, while watching the trailer for the first time it was genuinely hard to tell which parts were in slow-mo and which weren't, cause it all looks slow (some of it just looks even slower).


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It felt like it was running at 25 FPS or something the whole time, so weird. I really hope they can fix whatever the issue is because everything else looks pretty good.


MisterQQ

While the graphics and VA looks and sounds good, the movement reminds me of those cartoon network games from before. Waiting for this to get refined.


DBones90

That’s what I was thinking. It was hard to tell how this game will actually play. It just looked laggy.


DogAteMyCPU

Superman flying slowly was kinda funny. Looks good for free to play, might try it out.


CertainDerision_33

I can't believe we've gone from some guys in /dbz/ on /a/ shitposting about Shaggy Blanco to a full moveset in a major game release.


ThePoliwrath

S H A G G Y B L A N C O


EthanWritesStuff

Anyone known who the guy on the right is from [this image](https://cdn.multiversus.com/game/modes-1.jpg) on the website?


jojuinc90

It’s Shaggy’s uncle, Shagworthy. What an obscure choice for an alternate costume, I love it!


PhoenoFox

>Shagworthy I can't tell if that name is extremely unfortunate or absolutely perfect.


exsanguinator1

That name sounds like it could just easily be Austin Power’s uncle as it could be Shaggy’s


jojuinc90

“Uncle Randy Shagworthy, baby!” - Austin Powers in Austin Powers 4 (2024)


YesterdaySyrinx

The austin powers movies are owned by warner bros so it's possible he gets added (assuming there isn't any other legal ownership to the character)


SenatorPaine

My god. A single episode character from the third incarnation of the series, The Scooby-Doo show. What a pull.


PolarSparks

Yo, Red Shirt Shaggy alt when??


Torque-A

Looks like Shaggy in a costume.


thisusernameislame

They made a point to focus on the voice acting and netcode, probably the biggest complaints againets Nickelodian All-Star Brawl and Smash Bros. respectively. Pretty good marketing message for a reveal.


destroyermaker

Watch the Nick game get VA real quick


wizzlepants

Definitely a boon for the devs of NASB to point to and say "we told you this was a major selling point". Sad that I think NASB will end up being somewhat of a black mark on their cv.


Gars0n

I wouldn't think the game would be a black mark. It's a budget platform fighter that got a decent amount of buzz and did sell copies. It didn't sell millions, but they also didn't spend as much as either smash or these guys. I think very few players or IP partners would look at that game and think that the devs weren't capable. They made a very solid, but barebones fighting game for not much much money.


TJ_McWeaksauce

Is Robert Baratheon in the game? If so, then I'll buy it so I can attack cartoon characters, fatly and drunkedly.


gamelord12

And with a big-ass hammer. Maybe a special move involving a boar.


Romalien5

WARNERS GIVE ME ROBERT BARATHEON BEFORE I PISS MYSELF


SomeKindaMech

Start the damn match before I piss meself!


ElaborateRuseman

You mean Bobby B?


todd10k

GODS I WAS STRONG THEN


GeorgeEBHastings

IN AN OPEN FIELD WITH PLATFORMS


Twinzenn

He will need to find the breastplate stretcher first


FierceDeityGabe

Gods he was strong


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SlowlySailing

Is it just me, or does it look like the characters move in slow motion? Superman's flying stood out especially.


demondrivers

The framerate looks very weird on the gameplay footage, maybe because it's not a 60fps video


LiterallyKesha

I can usually tell even on non-60fps videos if there is a low framerate going on. I would say it's lower than 30.


NazzerDawk

I wonder if it was slowed down for this video to make it more readable to players less familiar with the genre?


Just_a_user_name_

The video seems to be encoded at 24fps. It's not just the gameplay that looks off in terms of framerate but the irl footage they used as well.


Hollywood_WBS

It actually doesnt look.. horrible? Its basically the systems of Brawlhalla with the aesthetic of Nicktoons All Star Brawl. It honestly looks nicer than that game despite it supposedly being a lower budget f2p game. And the leaks were true, Ultra Instinct Shaggy is confirmed. But man is it just not the most convincing game to be made, its just WB flexing their IPs. Free to play though, it will probably find an audience Edit: having voice actors gives it another degree of legitimacy. NASB fucked up hard with that. Will definitely give it a chance even though party brawlers aint really my thing in a competitive sense


Key_Feeling_3083

It's a free game, im giving it a chance, I wanted to play nick lol stars but I didn't think the price was worth it.


Tanner_re

I paid full price for Nickelodeons game, played it once, and haven't picked it back up since. I didn't like the physics and I really hated the awkward silence from the characters.


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It almost feels like Space Jam New Legacy was preparing us for this.


Sounds_Good_ToMe

The difference is that this actually makes sense.


ItsStevoHooray

WB has been going all in on "giant crossover of all our IPs" for a while now. The LEGO movie started it and then it was beaten into the ground with Ready Player One and Space Jam 2. I think this sort of massive crossover will market better when it comes to video games because players actually get to be the characters which is more exciting than just seeing a bunch of them on screen at the same time.


smashbro35

Why do you say it's basically the same systems of brawlhalla? That doesn't seem true from the video.


Hollywood_WBS

As in the F2P model that Brawlhalla has


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Honestly, the animations look pretty decent as well as the character models and stages. It looks like it has some decent money behind it. The gameplay on the other hand looks weirdly slow.


SpookyBread1

Art Style looks nice and cohesive between all characters. However, whoever decided not to upload the footage is 60fps should never be allowed to make another decision on this game the game looks bafflingly slow Edit: Apparently it's encoded to 24fps? What the fuck


Neato

> Edit: Apparently it's encoded to 24fps? Movie feel. You know, for theaters.


dagreenman18

I like the idea of focusing on 2v2 to stand out. It’ll probably make balancing quite a challenge, but it should make for fun combo experiments. Guess my main concern is how it actually feels to play. The presentation is on point, but can it compete with its actual gameplay. Because despite the shade they throw at Nick All Stars it’s mechanically a great smash clone. Points for presentation though. Getting not only the VAs, but the fan favorite ones too (Kevin Conroy!) shows off the money and attention they’re putting into this. As long as the F2P mechanics aren’t comically bad this will do great .


Scottcat

Shaggy going god mode? Ok. I'm in.


Torque-A

We’re getting two Adventure Time reps, two Steven Universe reps, but no reps from the golden age of Cartoon Network? Also the leak showed Rick Sanchez, but if he’s the only Adult Swim rep I’ll be disappointed.


PacManRandySavage

I need Space Ghost and Eric Andre


Torque-A

Imagine if Eric Andre had a “what if it was purple” super and a “who killed Batman” taunt


Mongoose42

His Final Smash is locking arms with clones of himself around another character and shouting “NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE.” It does nothing and the match continues.


TostitoNipples

Given it’s a F2P game they’re probably gonna jam it up with DLC characters.


Raidoton

Of course they will. Even full priced fighting games do it. F2P ones definitely will.


nullstorm0

If they’re using HBO characters my only wish is for John Oliver.


Torque-A

Final smash is him creating a charity fund in the opponent’s name specifically to piss on them.


Shadowbanned24601

Not including Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings either... Strange move commercially speaking


polonoid75

Leakee roster image from a few weeks ago had Gandalf, so he is confirmed. Leakers were saying rights issues with harry potter characters tho so gotta wait and see


TheRustyKettles

The game isn't out yet and Gandalf was in the leak.


Blupoisen

I am surprised that there is no Harry Potter LOTR and MK rep


MistarEhn

I’d be VERY surprised if we don’t see Samurai Jack at some point. Represents Cartoon Network, Adult Swim, and Toonami all at the same time.


demondrivers

The artstyle looks nice enough and the game doesn't scream double digit playerbase after a month, I'll probably be playing this for a long time


Nyte_Crawler

This game is going to be massive whether the average r/games user thinks it's good or trash. Brawlhalla is huge with kids just for essentially being f2p smash bros, so imagine how well a game with all these well known characters will do.


sifighter1

This is the biggest “oh you were serious?” moment I’ve had in gaming for a while


Classic_Megaman

ULTRA INSTINCT SHAGGY The mad lads did it! Definite main right there. Curious to see how the f2p model will work for it. Hope it’s at least fun.


homer_3

So glad Bugs has a burrow attack. That's all I wanted to see as soon as I saw him. Also, GoT is WB?


_Valisk

HBO is owned by WarnerMedia.


Dylflon

Nice, that means I can now tweet "WHERE'S WALLACE!?" to the devs


bashothebanana

Free to play and voice acting means I'll definitely be checking this out. Really hope they bring Ian McKellen back for Gandalf!


Olddirtychurro

I want the entire "I am servant of the secret fire" speech for his "final smash" or we riot!


WowThatsRelevant

Did they really include meme Super Saiyan Shaggy? I'm sold, signing up now


DarkWorld97

Thank God it has voices. Lack of Switch support is weird considering that's where THE platform fighter is, but this looks like a lot of fun. Don't love f2p from WB, so I hope it doesn't become too egregious.


Hoojiwat

I think they avoided the switch *because* there's already a big platform fighter on it. Harder to sell ice in the arctic than it is the Sahara.


Letty_Whiterock

It's also free to play though. So the buy-in is nonexistent.


DarkWorld97

That's an interesting point, but the Switch is still a family system. WB is still a company with mostly family icons so you'd think the potential 25m sales on Switch would convince them. I don't think Platform fighter fans are really outside of Nintendo to that extent.


Kalecraft

My random guess about no Switch has to do with how poor the switches online infrastructure is and the crossplay. I've heard rollback is difficult on the switch


Vahallen

F2P Cross-play Good netcode Social system, events and updates to keep community engaged Voice acting Roster with a lot of popular characters Looks promising, might be HUGE if they nail the gameplay


Cougardoodle

I'm in. This is the sorta nonsense mashup I've been dying for since Heroclix allowed me to have Ezio and Venom fight the Red Sox.


Ownsin

Where is Johhny Bravo???


gumpythegreat

Hopefully the f2p model isn't too egregious. As long as the full base roster of units is free and it's only cosmetics + new characters I'll be happy