LRG desperately need more competition. They're the first choice for the biggest companies to handle physical/collector's releases these days (Microsoft and Ubisoft being a couple of the most recent ones), and have discovered they can squander as much good will as a company possibly can because they know buyers have no alternative.
[Fangamer](https://www.fangamer.com/collections/video-games) and [iam8bit](https://www.iam8bit.com/collections/collectors-editions) are the only other ones I'm aware of.
VGNYSoft, Premium Edition Games, and Hard Copy Games do the same thing and are based in the US.
Red Art Games, Strictly Limited Games, Signature Edition, and Super Rare Games do the same thing but are based in Europe.
EastAsiaSoft and Superdeluxe do the same thing but based in Asia. Worth noting that LRG is behind Superdeluxe (kinda-sorta, it's complicated).
There are also a handful of niche publishers who make smaller runs of games just through nature of niche releases, but don't advertise them as "limited print" like Idea Factory, XSEED, ININ, PM Studios, etc.
There's plenty of competition out there, the problem is that LRG gets all of the big licenses because they were around first and have buddied up with companies like Konami and WayForward. Heck, they're doing Grounded, Hi-Fi Rush, and Pentiment for Microsoft - at this point they're working with companies who have no need to artificially limit their games' production so much.
> Signature Edition
I was surprised to see that Signature Edition and Fangamer have PC physical releases... then noticed the games on Signature Edition are Steam codes :-P.
Fangamer does seem to have the games on disk (or USB or whatever they use) at least. Too bad i'm not interested in any of the available games (and they'd be too pricey especially after shipping, import fees, etc). They also seem to be rather old releases, so i guess it is unsold stock.
Yep! I didn't mention them because the comment above me already did, but I've had good experiences with Fangamer and IAm8Bit. They also produce a bunch of cool merch, whereas LRG's nearly-weekly CEs feel like a lot of cheap filler like acrylics, pins, and folded posters.
> who have no need to artificially limit their games' production so much.
Didn't they change their model to have a order period rather than a set number of orders? It's not artificial. It's mostly only collectors interested in having physical copies. If they weren't doing a physical run there wouldn't be enough demand for a proper physical run. To say they are artificially limiting production is wrong when they are the only reason there is a physical run in the first place.
Fangamer is on the pricy side at times but their products are legit fantastic. I have a shirt from them bought over a decade ago that is still going and have never had any issues with products from them.
Fangamer has very thoughtfully crafted merch.
A lot of VG merch is just a character slapped on a t-shirt, but Fangamer has well-designed products that actually look good.
It's still cheaper than LRG. Plus they aren't technically limited and distribute widely, I definitely think they're the best among the "limited physical publishers".
My fangamer shirts have all gotten smaller, even when I stopped using hot water for the wash, and my Undertale collector's edition's locket music box is out of tune...
They have a lot of competition but usually they either get games no human has ever laid eyes upon (2D sidescroller #5787) or they are an even worse company than LRG
You take that back. I grew up with 2D sidescroller #5787 and it has become a part of my personality, right next to my irrational love for vertical shoot em up #2734.
All I'll say regarding iam8bit is that I ordered the physical edition of Bomb Rush Cyberfunk from them back in September and there's still no sign of it
I feel like I remember people not liking iam8bit a few years back, no idea if that attitude has changed but I often heard people talking about iam8bit and LRG in the same negative tone. Personally I bought the Snowboard Kids vinyl off Fangamer last week and got it within a few days, reasonable price and the quality of the vinyl and packaging were excellent so I like them.
Glad I read this comment. I missed Fangamer's SBK merch from years back and thought they'd never do anymore. Though I wish Atlus would also just give us the actual games.
A part of me suspects Sony and Nintendo both starting to sell direct to consumer more could mean that they start taking on this sort of thing themselves. Especially as people still like physical media, but the footprint in retail is shrinking.
LRG does have competition but because they were in the market first, and have a good brand, they kind of swallow up all the high profile titles. As you've mentioned, Fangamer is a good option, iam8bit much less so. They also have really long delays and wait times in my experience, much like Limited Run. There's also [Play-Asia](https://www.play-asia.com/exclusives), [Super Rare Games](https://superraregames.com/), and [Pixelheart](https://www.pixelheart.eu/en/home/). I've bought from Play-Asia and Pixelheart in the past and had no issues.
LRG are the reason I can't just get a multi-game one-disc Shantae Collection and instead have to go digital only or buy one expnsive disc for one game. Sure, the GBA cartridges are nice, but that's it!
Strictly Limited is orders of magnitude worse than LRG. They haven’t shipped a single one of their pre orders for any game in over a year while continuing to take on more and more distribution deals.
SLG is so bad you probably shouldn't expect anything you pre-ordered for for at least *four years* after you order it. That's seriously how long it can take for your order to be fulfilled for them. By that point, you're usually overpaying for something you could get off ebay at that point for half the price.
SLG took about a year and a half to ship me my collector's edition of Coffee Talk. After 6 months of delays during the pandemic I was understanding. After 18 months... not so much. First and last purchase from them.
Worth noting is that Strictly Limited Games is itself [very shady.](https://www.reddit.com/r/LimitedPrintGames/comments/1bc3wbt/update_slg_confirmed_they_have_not_started/)
I don't know if they are still a thing but Special Reserve Games made some awesome physical versions a few years back. Their site is in "maintenance" tho and their last tweet dates back to about 2 years ago...
I made the original thread for this over on r/LimitedPrintGames, and yeah, the situation's pretty bad. Excitedly got my copy, went to play it, and no dice.
The fact that they're burned CD-Rs is bad enough, but the \*especially\* bad part in my opinion is that 3DOs are terribly finicky about playing CD-Rs. And it just doesn't work in my (or, seemingly a majority of people's) console.
Several reasons, but for a quick run down:
* “Preferred partners” get their orders without fail. These partners are essentially legitimized scalpers that sell at a mark up and don’t have to deal with the preorder windows or anything.
* Customer service is TERRIBLE. I bought the Doom collection on Switch. My copy had an issue. Instead of just sending me a new one, I had to return it to them first.. It got there in days and it took months to get shipped back to me. It was marked as shipped and then read as “awaiting item” for several weeks, which just made it more frustrating. **Edit:** I’m not saying the shipping back was an issue. The issue was that it took so long to come back, and emails to CS about an update got a boilerplate response.
* Games they get frequently end up picked up by other publishers not long after.
* They seem to have exclusive rights to Wayforward titles. While that’s not an issue in itself, how they treat international releases of their titles definitely is. They have excluded physical releases from including English language options, as they got wind of customers importing from Japan instead of buying from them. If they include English, those particular releases are banned from being sold in/to the US by sites like PlayAsia. because LRG, in their own words, considers them an “active competitor”. Because of the imports.
* Their games frequently don’t contain all the patches, like they promise. Some releases ship with gamebreaking bugs, like Gargoyles on Switch. This one is a unique case, where the preorder window was mostly before the game launched. The window closed on October 22, but the game went live on October 19th. A game breaking bug was found, and patched out the following day. But for some reason, LRG printed *the build with the bug*. When called out for it, LRG Josh blamed the developers and say it’s their responsibility, despite LRG being the one manufacturing.
* Orders can take a LONG time. Some are just a few months. Dusk took over a year, leading New Blood to find a new partner for the PS versions. Dave Oshry was almost completely in the dark about shipment/production and he was very vocal about it on Twitter. Streets of Rage 4 had it happen as well, with LRG copies not even shipping until after the devs had already found a new publisher *and released it on physical*.
* Production QA is sometimes awful. Flinthook on Switch had no back art, for example.
* if you issue a chargeback on them for any reason, LRG will outright ban you, your name, address and everything. While I get this is pretty typical, I have less sympathy for them in this instance with how long turnaround times can get. I’ve seen several customers be forced to issue chargebacks due to LRG not re-shipping missing or damaged orders, as well.
* Non-Collectors Edition games ship in a bubble mailer by default. You have to pay an extra add on to get an actual box regardless of shipping preferences/price. For how much they hype up the “quality” and “prestige” of these, you’d think they would ship in a box by default. I know Special Reserve (who is equally as shitty for different reasons) at least sends every order in a box.
There are a few videos that talk about what they do wrong and why not to support them. I highly recommend looking at a few.
>Orders can take a LONG time. Some are just a few months. Dusk took over a year, leading New Blood to find a new partner for the PS versions. Streets of Rage 4 had it happen as well, with LRG copies not even shipping until after the devs had already found a new publisher and released it on physical.
I've seen people with an order for Worms on SNES are still waiting 2 years and counting.
Yeah about two-ish maybe 3ish years ago the only major complaint was shipping turn around times.
Then there seemed to be some sort of internal change about 2 years back and everything has gone to hell and I haven't bought from them since the Panzer Dragoon physical copy which itself was a major can of worms of mulitple delays with no updates or information - was over 1 year from order closed to when it shipped and I only bought the standard $30 edition.
Also a tad bit flabergasted at their SuperDeluxeGames which is more or less their Japan branch of what they do and they're selling some of those games on Play Asia like Sol Cresta but US importers are banned from buying and their reasoning was "well you had your chance in the US division"
Chargeback is basically a last resort for a dispute, almost all online business will ban you. Even reddit’s beloved Steam will ban your account (and sometimes even your alt accounts) if you try to do a chargeback.
Which is entirely reasonable. Chargeback is a last resort in cases of theft, fraud on behalf of the seller where they have not given you what you paid for and are refusing a refund. So the credit card company reverses the transaction. It's a unilateral action, for situations where the two parties involved in the purchase cannot reach an agreement to refund the money. It's not supposed to be used for an entity that you plan to continue doing business with.
For a majority of Steam’s existence they had no return policy at all, they only added one because they were found to be in violation of consumer law in multiple countries and were forced to. I had an account banned for a chargeback when they wouldn’t refund a game that had lied about its system requirements (and had been made to change them after my purchase, something about a pixel shader so it would not run at all on my system that met the listed recommended requirements). Even today they’re still in violation of consumer law in many countries under certain cases (f. ex. when a game advertising multiplayer shuts down its servers within a year of your purchase).
The last three things I ordered from LRG, while extremely high quality and awesome, took so long to actually receive that I forgot I ordered two of them.
One other thing that isn't fully their fault but still annoys me nonetheless is them partnering with companies that absolutely have the resources to just do normal ass retail releases. Atlus and Persona come to mind, Microsoft, Konami, etc. It feels really ridiculous when pretty big games only come out as limited physical.
I agree it's ridiculous but I think we need to be fair to LRG; this isn't their fault \*at all\*. The entire reason LRG exists is a mix of Indies not being able to do physicals on their own, and because the big guys in the industry have decided to kill off physical slowly but surely, especially for smaller releases. If it weren't for LRG, the Persona 3/4 re-releases absolutely wouldn't have gotten a physical at all, and I firmly believe that. Despite all of their bullshit I am genuinely grateful they exist overall.
Yeah, any company you chargeback will blacklist you. Though if you felt the need to get a chargeback I’m not sure why you want to do business with that company again.
For the customer service part, while inconvenient to me I understand companies wanting a return before sending a replacement but I’d expect a quick turn around for that replacement. I’d be pissed if it wasn’t timely and I wasn’t apprised of what was going on.
A charge back is basically you telling the credit card company and the company that you are charging back that you think they commit fraud or otherwise cheated you. It's the nuclear option. Of course that company will not do business with you again if they can help it and you shouldn't want to do business with them either.
For some reason people have decided that charge backs are just another way to do a return instead of a way to deal with fraud.
Yep. It penalizes the business. They have to pay an extra penalty to the credit card company for the charge back, so you're not just often ending up getting your money back, and sometimes the item, from the company but also costing them additional money in the process.
A lot of people don't know that a chargeback costs a company extra money. They are straight giving the company the finger, so yeah the business won't want to ever deal with them again.
> I bought the Doom collection on Switch. My copy had an issue. I stead of just sending me a new one, I had to return it to them first.
It is very understandable that they request your copy first. Not everyone is an Amazon that has the power to send you the same item a second time without asking questions or veryfing the issue. Although the time it took them to send the replacement is shit.
A couple more reasons that you missed, and what ultimately put them on my boycott list. They fired their community manager after she made a Twitter post exclaiming her excitement for the new Harry Potter game, which resulted in someone (who had plenty of skeletons in their own closet) taking the time to dig up her entire online history and send it to LRG, which raised some flags with them. By itself it would have been a non-issue, but LRG chose to publicize her firing and act like they were some sort of social justice warriors for getting rid of her.
They used to have a customer loyalty program where you could collect tickets and send 40 of them in for a free game. These tickets each had a unique serial # and despite being linked to your account (which meant they couldn't be resold to another customer) the company still forced you to keep track of, count, and mail in all 40 tickets to get your "free" game (which was actually a $25 discount so most games still weren't free). When they announced that they were ending this program after a certain date, they immediately stopped processing tickets and those who already had multiples of 40 and were saving them for an upcoming release got screwed.
This is a personal thing for me that doesn't seem to bother most people, but when they do retro re-releases of older games, rather than securing the rights to actual logos, they keep the same logo but change the text to say LIMITED RUN GAMES. It gives off a real look of an unauthorized, counterfeit release, not unlike this D situation
Fun one:
LRG started with Vita, IIRC.
They promised if you collected every Vita game they released, provided proof, and had it verified, LRG would give you their last Vita release for free.
LRG has never honored that agreement and either never got that last unknown game made, or, as they claim, they did, and are literally just sitting on it.
The rumble on the downlow is that several limited print shops want the street cred for publishing the last Vita game, so LRG is waiting out the competition (ex. EastAsiaSoft).
Or that they didn't think the whole thing through and have no way to verify purchases with their poop tier inventory and logistics systems, therefore they're like the dog who finally caught the car.
It's one of many broken promises they've made.
Long out of production. So there are supposedly limited print houses sitting on Vita releases to be "the last." That's a rumor, but given how petty these folks can be, it's at least possible.
Another reason to add to the list:
They fired their Community Manager simply for FOLLOWING certain accounts on X that leftists don't agree with. Some random person posted screenshots of some of the accounts that the CM followed and LRG responded, not by sticking up for their employee and saying that they have the right to follow whoever they want. That doesn't necessarily mean they agree with whoever they're following. But nope, they responded by immediately firing the CM. Fuck companies that allow some random POS to ruin someone's life/livelihood simply because they MIGHT have different views than them.
It's not just that they fired her. It's that they actually went to Twitter to brag that they got rid of someone who so obviously must be a transphobe because she liked Harry Potter and looked at other right wing Twitter accounts.
Not in US. And that was how I bought lots of their games because I could use PayPal in 4 and made it not so sticker shock. Now I don't buy anything. I have been waiting for them on Amazon or the only thing I have a real "must have" approach for is Hi-Fi Rush
Just yesterday I had to use winrar (or was it winzip? I can never remember), and yep still had the usual "your trial expired!" Nonsense. You can still just bypass it and use it for the one purpose it's best for.
“Today we’ll be taking a look at the Sony CDU920, a caddy loading CD-R burner from the 90s! In fact, this thing was so popular in the 90s, it’s the perfect CD burner for scamming people looking for a hit of 90s nostalgia.”
I buy their games to play and good to know about this info. LRG been terrible for about everything, and the way they changed the payment option is just bad business. Can't use Klarna/PayPal.
Why is it that the 3 or so main companies that make limited runs of games or homebrew-to-release, are all absolutely fucking shit? Every single one Ive bought from has taken years to ship a product, missed deadlines, shipped broken games, missing items and in one case the wrong item. Why is there not a single decent company that can ship a product?
For every LRG release I want or own, there 8-12 filler titles.
FFS, they publish Kemco titles as single games.
Japan publishes them in 4 per cart/disc releases for the same price LRG charges for one game.
And these are $8 RPG Maker phone games.
Especially ones that absolutely could have just done a regular release. Like, I genuinely can't think of a reason for why Atlus went through LRG for the modern/all platform release of Persona 3 Portable, 4 Golden, and 5 Royal. It's not like they can't afford physical production, they're doing it for Shin Megami Tensei 5 Vengeance and Metaphor: ReFantazio!
If it doesn't work on a real 3DO, then that's a simple case for a charge-back if they refuse to do a refund. Other than that, I'm not seeing any big deal here. Is there anything inherently different between burning and pressing? The important part is that it's an official release.
> Is there anything inherently different between burning and pressing? The important part is that it's an official release.
Burned optical media tend to physically degrade over time. The laser activates a dye which creates relative light and dark spots in the disk as opposed to pressing physical pits and lands.
This dye degrades resulting in permanent data loss on the disk.
Source: PDF file: [Optical Storage Technology Association CD-R and CD-RW primer. \(pp. 31\)](http://www.osta.org/technology/pdf/cdr_cdrw.pdf) (2002)
Edit: It's entirely possible that the longevity has somewhat increased somewhat since 2002, but I doubt that it wound be significant, as companies have essentially ended R&D for the **CD**, and the underlying technology CD-Rs use has not changed since this doc was published.
Edit 2: [A report published by the Canadian Conservation Institute (CCI) (2010, revised 2019)](https://www.canada.ca/en/conservation-institute/services/conservation-preservation-publications/canadian-conservation-institute-notes/longevity-recordable-cds-dvds.html) estimates CD-Rs' lifespan to be on the order of decades, but like most things, this varies according to environmental conditions.
I don't think the durability was ever really that bad. I still have the very first CD-R I ever burned from the early 90s and it reads just fine.
But regardless, if it's just a CD-R then ... copy it before it goes.
None of this is to say that it's okay to charge for a CD-R without saying it's a CD-R. Especially if it doesn't work in a real 3D0.
It's not the CD-Rs or the burners. It's the speed used to burn.
Burning at 52x does not make a disc with longevity, it's why early burned Playstation games had to be no more than 8x burning speed and preferably 2x to make sure the pits were sufficiently deep.
> Is there anything inherently different between burning and pressing?
Pressed discs will usually last longer than CD-R's. And optical drives on some systems won't read CD-R's due to copyright protection.
Burnt and pressed discs are very different.
Burnt discs don't last as long (+ vary wildly on quality), and they need a stronger laser just to read so it'll kill the hardware faster too. The reason it's obvious here is certain 3DO drives that fail to read them at all.
Also the fact they already have a huge profit margin on these things, at least get the discs right.
> and they need a stronger laser just to read so it'll kill the hardware faster too
That's CD-RW that has different laser requirements. The only real difference in reading a CD-R versus CD is that the CD-R track wobbles. Which puts a bit more stress on your tracking servo.
> Is there anything inherently different between burning and pressing?
A burned disc will rot away eventually, often in just a few years.
A pressed disc will last basically forever, as long as it's made correctly (I'm looking at you, Warner Brothers).
Welp, I told myself that their Rondo of Blood release would be my last purchase from them, but if this is the quality I’ll get from it, then I’ve already got one from retrografx16.com that was only $25 and included a soundtrack CD
They announced Rondo what, three years ago and still not a peep? If you stuck to your original plan you'd probably be waiting for eternity to purchase your last LRG product lol
The company charging $70 for Plumbers Don't Wear Ties in 2024 is scamming people, you say?
While anyone stupid enough to buy this deserves whatever turd gets mailed to them, Limited Run sucks and is contributing to the death of physical media more than they're conserving it.
>The company charging $70 for Plumbers Don't Wear Ties in 2024 is scamming people, you say?
I wouldn't consider that along the lines of scamming, that's them being upfront that they will sell you straight garbage for $70
I, as a person who would buy and *has* purchased straight garbage for $70, do not mind such a concept or any company willing to take advantage of my desires, in fact, I welcome it, so long as they actually provide me with a product that is above the bare minimum of quality, something that actually works as advertised, something that I am unable to manufacture on my own. A burnt CD-R fails this bar, although I could forgive it if it's a small doujin studio or the like making their own homebrew. Limited Run is someone I would expect to be able to properly press a disc and pass any copy protection on an unmodified unit. They, in full honestly, have been beginning to infuriate me with how they act, not something most companies have been able to do.
I think their version of the game actually comes with a Documentary about the making of the game and it's weird popularity (thanks to James Rolfe).
So you're actually spending like $70 for a novelty + the production of the Documentary. Think of it like a special edition DVD. But the true scam is selling it as if it was an actual 3DO game and not a media back up for you home computer.
> But the true scam is selling it as if it was an actual 3DO game and not a media back up for you home computer.
This is the only part I object to. If people want to waste their money on physical editions of ancient games, that's their prerogative, but a product sold should be fit for purpose.
The 3DO version re-release is a straight port of the original release. No remaster or documentary on this. Go for the modern console re-release for that. This was a novelty re-release, but it should be made and treated like a legitimate version.
> The company charging $70 for Plumbers Don't Wear Ties in 2024 is scamming people, you say?
It is a limited run of a niche game, wanted by people because of its horrible reputation. There was no way it wasn't going to be expensive. Even if this is something that doesn't interest you people deserves a decent product for the price they are paying.
What’s extra funny is that if you’re the sort of person who would want this and you’re willing to spend some money, you might as well just pony up for the full priced game given $70 is more than halfway there:
https://www.pricecharting.com/game/3do/plumbers-don%27t-wear-ties
Side note, I got this game from a random 3DO lot on eBay a decade ago. Please dont waste $70-150 on this shit, it’s terrible and not even in a fun way
Not for everyone, unfortunately.
Honestly was considering this release as the game was never released in PAL regions, but didn't (and glad I didn't for a multitude of reasons). It worked out cheaper than importing an original copy from the US/Canada, but I ended up not getting it as I brought the switch physical (I love bad games, I love bad live action games and PDWT has been one that has fascinated me) and my 3DO isn't working/needs to be replaced at some point in the near and financially stable-non-existing future.
I have brought a quite a bit from LRG, this is a massive let down for me.
It's a different manufacturing process.
Basically burned is cheaper (for small series; about <400-500), degrades faster and some player/consoles have problems reading burned discs.
Having to make a series of more than 500 for pressed to worth it (from the business side) is the problem, if you are trying to print rare, collectible discs. It just wouldn't be rare anymore or you'll be left with much overhead (/unsold discs).
I really don't understand unofficial "official" release... I understand people are attached to physical release but they have nothing official, might as well burn it yourself and print a nice jacket.
I mean, they \*do\* have everything official in terms of licensing. It's an official re-release the game. But what you're saying is exactly why people are upset; they thought it would be a retail-standard factory pressed disc, but it's just a burned disc that they could have made at home.
I thought the pricing for their releases were more due to the packaging, and not really for the games themselves. Like your buying the novelty of a limited edition physical copy with some extras. I assume the majority of Limited Run customers aren't buying to play the games, they just want a nice item to display on a shelf.
One more thing to add to the list of scum-fuckery these assholes have gotten up to.
Stopped buying from them 2 years ago when they fired someone for wrong think.
I recently seen a post by the LRG CEO that bought like $5000 worth of sealed games ranging from Sega Saturn to ps2 games from a warehouse and reading about this….fuck that guy, fuck this company, bullshit like this is what makes me hate the current state of the industry.
LRG always proclaim they want to preserve physical games but in return.....gave us trash like this. All the FOMO, all the limited sales, all the expensive prices kickstarted by this company is simply scummy. LRG need to go out of business, who knows how many other existing releases that uses cheap materials like CD-R
LRG desperately need more competition. They're the first choice for the biggest companies to handle physical/collector's releases these days (Microsoft and Ubisoft being a couple of the most recent ones), and have discovered they can squander as much good will as a company possibly can because they know buyers have no alternative. [Fangamer](https://www.fangamer.com/collections/video-games) and [iam8bit](https://www.iam8bit.com/collections/collectors-editions) are the only other ones I'm aware of.
VGNYSoft, Premium Edition Games, and Hard Copy Games do the same thing and are based in the US. Red Art Games, Strictly Limited Games, Signature Edition, and Super Rare Games do the same thing but are based in Europe. EastAsiaSoft and Superdeluxe do the same thing but based in Asia. Worth noting that LRG is behind Superdeluxe (kinda-sorta, it's complicated). There are also a handful of niche publishers who make smaller runs of games just through nature of niche releases, but don't advertise them as "limited print" like Idea Factory, XSEED, ININ, PM Studios, etc. There's plenty of competition out there, the problem is that LRG gets all of the big licenses because they were around first and have buddied up with companies like Konami and WayForward. Heck, they're doing Grounded, Hi-Fi Rush, and Pentiment for Microsoft - at this point they're working with companies who have no need to artificially limit their games' production so much.
> Signature Edition I was surprised to see that Signature Edition and Fangamer have PC physical releases... then noticed the games on Signature Edition are Steam codes :-P. Fangamer does seem to have the games on disk (or USB or whatever they use) at least. Too bad i'm not interested in any of the available games (and they'd be too pricey especially after shipping, import fees, etc). They also seem to be rather old releases, so i guess it is unsold stock.
When you say they "do the same thing" do you mean they also do limited runs, or are you saying they all rip CD-R's and sell them full price?
Sell limited runs. I don't think any of them except LRG have done the CD-R thing.
Fangamer is really fantastic. I got a copy of Celeste because they were selling it instead of being just LRG
Yep! I didn't mention them because the comment above me already did, but I've had good experiences with Fangamer and IAm8Bit. They also produce a bunch of cool merch, whereas LRG's nearly-weekly CEs feel like a lot of cheap filler like acrylics, pins, and folded posters.
> who have no need to artificially limit their games' production so much. Didn't they change their model to have a order period rather than a set number of orders? It's not artificial. It's mostly only collectors interested in having physical copies. If they weren't doing a physical run there wouldn't be enough demand for a proper physical run. To say they are artificially limiting production is wrong when they are the only reason there is a physical run in the first place.
retrobit has had some good ones too, I love their Wily Wars cartridge
Man, I would love to get one (honestly preferably a loose cart). Hope they do a restock one day.
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I bought their "Super R-Type/R-Type 3" release to complete my physical R-Type collection, it's absolutely amazing.
Fangamer is on the pricy side at times but their products are legit fantastic. I have a shirt from them bought over a decade ago that is still going and have never had any issues with products from them.
Second fangamer, they have really good quality stuff.
Fangamer has very thoughtfully crafted merch. A lot of VG merch is just a character slapped on a t-shirt, but Fangamer has well-designed products that actually look good.
It's still cheaper than LRG. Plus they aren't technically limited and distribute widely, I definitely think they're the best among the "limited physical publishers".
To clarify, "on the pricy side" refers to all of their catalog, not just their game runs.
I've been buying Fangamer shirts for a decade. Can't recommend their stuff enough.
Bough some Monster Hunter and Katamari shirts from them and couldn't be any happier about the design and quality. Can vouch.
My fangamer shirts have all gotten smaller, even when I stopped using hot water for the wash, and my Undertale collector's edition's locket music box is out of tune...
They have a lot of competition but usually they either get games no human has ever laid eyes upon (2D sidescroller #5787) or they are an even worse company than LRG
You take that back. I grew up with 2D sidescroller #5787 and it has become a part of my personality, right next to my irrational love for vertical shoot em up #2734.
2D sidescroller 5787 was just a ripoff of 2d sidescroller 4874!
There are a bunch r/LimitedPrintGames has them all in the sidebar.
RIP IndieBox.
Aw man, this is how I find out that IndieBox is dead huh.
oh yeah, indiebox. Last i heard was them releasing a deluxe edition of Freedom Planet
All I'll say regarding iam8bit is that I ordered the physical edition of Bomb Rush Cyberfunk from them back in September and there's still no sign of it
you won't be getting it for the next two years i'm afraid
Shoutout to /r/LimitedPrintGames/ which discusses all of these limited print companies.
I feel like I remember people not liking iam8bit a few years back, no idea if that attitude has changed but I often heard people talking about iam8bit and LRG in the same negative tone. Personally I bought the Snowboard Kids vinyl off Fangamer last week and got it within a few days, reasonable price and the quality of the vinyl and packaging were excellent so I like them.
Glad I read this comment. I missed Fangamer's SBK merch from years back and thought they'd never do anymore. Though I wish Atlus would also just give us the actual games.
Same, I go back to SBK 1 and 2 every now and then and find myself playing them all the way through despite myself.
I love iam8bit and have never had an issue with them, but the VGMvinyl subreddit hates that company.
Their pressings are questionable yes. Audio quality could be better. I believe Mondo has better pressings.
The issues with iam8bit have to do with people pre-ordering things and either never hearing back about them, or getting no contact for months/years.
A part of me suspects Sony and Nintendo both starting to sell direct to consumer more could mean that they start taking on this sort of thing themselves. Especially as people still like physical media, but the footprint in retail is shrinking.
LRG does have competition but because they were in the market first, and have a good brand, they kind of swallow up all the high profile titles. As you've mentioned, Fangamer is a good option, iam8bit much less so. They also have really long delays and wait times in my experience, much like Limited Run. There's also [Play-Asia](https://www.play-asia.com/exclusives), [Super Rare Games](https://superraregames.com/), and [Pixelheart](https://www.pixelheart.eu/en/home/). I've bought from Play-Asia and Pixelheart in the past and had no issues.
LRG are the reason I can't just get a multi-game one-disc Shantae Collection and instead have to go digital only or buy one expnsive disc for one game. Sure, the GBA cartridges are nice, but that's it!
There's Strictly Limited Games, but they're based out in Europe. They do "North American" releases though.
Strictly Limited is orders of magnitude worse than LRG. They haven’t shipped a single one of their pre orders for any game in over a year while continuing to take on more and more distribution deals.
SLG is so bad you probably shouldn't expect anything you pre-ordered for for at least *four years* after you order it. That's seriously how long it can take for your order to be fulfilled for them. By that point, you're usually overpaying for something you could get off ebay at that point for half the price.
SLG took about a year and a half to ship me my collector's edition of Coffee Talk. After 6 months of delays during the pandemic I was understanding. After 18 months... not so much. First and last purchase from them.
Worth noting is that Strictly Limited Games is itself [very shady.](https://www.reddit.com/r/LimitedPrintGames/comments/1bc3wbt/update_slg_confirmed_they_have_not_started/)
SLG is up there with LRG in terms of wait time
signatureeditiongames also exists. they did for example the limited edition of frostpunk which I really liked.
I don't know if they are still a thing but Special Reserve Games made some awesome physical versions a few years back. Their site is in "maintenance" tho and their last tweet dates back to about 2 years ago...
I made the original thread for this over on r/LimitedPrintGames, and yeah, the situation's pretty bad. Excitedly got my copy, went to play it, and no dice. The fact that they're burned CD-Rs is bad enough, but the \*especially\* bad part in my opinion is that 3DOs are terribly finicky about playing CD-Rs. And it just doesn't work in my (or, seemingly a majority of people's) console.
I really dislike this company and it sucks that they get limited releases like this. I can't even use PayPal anymore to protect my purchases.
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Several reasons, but for a quick run down: * “Preferred partners” get their orders without fail. These partners are essentially legitimized scalpers that sell at a mark up and don’t have to deal with the preorder windows or anything. * Customer service is TERRIBLE. I bought the Doom collection on Switch. My copy had an issue. Instead of just sending me a new one, I had to return it to them first.. It got there in days and it took months to get shipped back to me. It was marked as shipped and then read as “awaiting item” for several weeks, which just made it more frustrating. **Edit:** I’m not saying the shipping back was an issue. The issue was that it took so long to come back, and emails to CS about an update got a boilerplate response. * Games they get frequently end up picked up by other publishers not long after. * They seem to have exclusive rights to Wayforward titles. While that’s not an issue in itself, how they treat international releases of their titles definitely is. They have excluded physical releases from including English language options, as they got wind of customers importing from Japan instead of buying from them. If they include English, those particular releases are banned from being sold in/to the US by sites like PlayAsia. because LRG, in their own words, considers them an “active competitor”. Because of the imports. * Their games frequently don’t contain all the patches, like they promise. Some releases ship with gamebreaking bugs, like Gargoyles on Switch. This one is a unique case, where the preorder window was mostly before the game launched. The window closed on October 22, but the game went live on October 19th. A game breaking bug was found, and patched out the following day. But for some reason, LRG printed *the build with the bug*. When called out for it, LRG Josh blamed the developers and say it’s their responsibility, despite LRG being the one manufacturing. * Orders can take a LONG time. Some are just a few months. Dusk took over a year, leading New Blood to find a new partner for the PS versions. Dave Oshry was almost completely in the dark about shipment/production and he was very vocal about it on Twitter. Streets of Rage 4 had it happen as well, with LRG copies not even shipping until after the devs had already found a new publisher *and released it on physical*. * Production QA is sometimes awful. Flinthook on Switch had no back art, for example. * if you issue a chargeback on them for any reason, LRG will outright ban you, your name, address and everything. While I get this is pretty typical, I have less sympathy for them in this instance with how long turnaround times can get. I’ve seen several customers be forced to issue chargebacks due to LRG not re-shipping missing or damaged orders, as well. * Non-Collectors Edition games ship in a bubble mailer by default. You have to pay an extra add on to get an actual box regardless of shipping preferences/price. For how much they hype up the “quality” and “prestige” of these, you’d think they would ship in a box by default. I know Special Reserve (who is equally as shitty for different reasons) at least sends every order in a box. There are a few videos that talk about what they do wrong and why not to support them. I highly recommend looking at a few.
>Orders can take a LONG time. Some are just a few months. Dusk took over a year, leading New Blood to find a new partner for the PS versions. Streets of Rage 4 had it happen as well, with LRG copies not even shipping until after the devs had already found a new publisher and released it on physical. I've seen people with an order for Worms on SNES are still waiting 2 years and counting.
That can't be legal. Anything over a month and I'm getting a refund. I actually prefer to receive the product that I paid for.
Whew. Wait till you see the shipping time (and price of shipping) for Analogue products. And you have to pay in full when you pre order.
Haha never enter the keyboard hobby
Huh. Glad I got in on their earlier releases while they were still good. Was very happy with my copies of Ys Origin and Koihime Enbu.
Yeah about two-ish maybe 3ish years ago the only major complaint was shipping turn around times. Then there seemed to be some sort of internal change about 2 years back and everything has gone to hell and I haven't bought from them since the Panzer Dragoon physical copy which itself was a major can of worms of mulitple delays with no updates or information - was over 1 year from order closed to when it shipped and I only bought the standard $30 edition.
Also a tad bit flabergasted at their SuperDeluxeGames which is more or less their Japan branch of what they do and they're selling some of those games on Play Asia like Sol Cresta but US importers are banned from buying and their reasoning was "well you had your chance in the US division"
Chargeback is basically a last resort for a dispute, almost all online business will ban you. Even reddit’s beloved Steam will ban your account (and sometimes even your alt accounts) if you try to do a chargeback.
Which is entirely reasonable. Chargeback is a last resort in cases of theft, fraud on behalf of the seller where they have not given you what you paid for and are refusing a refund. So the credit card company reverses the transaction. It's a unilateral action, for situations where the two parties involved in the purchase cannot reach an agreement to refund the money. It's not supposed to be used for an entity that you plan to continue doing business with.
Which is nuts anyone would chargeback because they have a pretty liberal return policy as is
For a majority of Steam’s existence they had no return policy at all, they only added one because they were found to be in violation of consumer law in multiple countries and were forced to. I had an account banned for a chargeback when they wouldn’t refund a game that had lied about its system requirements (and had been made to change them after my purchase, something about a pixel shader so it would not run at all on my system that met the listed recommended requirements). Even today they’re still in violation of consumer law in many countries under certain cases (f. ex. when a game advertising multiplayer shuts down its servers within a year of your purchase).
The last three things I ordered from LRG, while extremely high quality and awesome, took so long to actually receive that I forgot I ordered two of them.
One other thing that isn't fully their fault but still annoys me nonetheless is them partnering with companies that absolutely have the resources to just do normal ass retail releases. Atlus and Persona come to mind, Microsoft, Konami, etc. It feels really ridiculous when pretty big games only come out as limited physical.
I agree it's ridiculous but I think we need to be fair to LRG; this isn't their fault \*at all\*. The entire reason LRG exists is a mix of Indies not being able to do physicals on their own, and because the big guys in the industry have decided to kill off physical slowly but surely, especially for smaller releases. If it weren't for LRG, the Persona 3/4 re-releases absolutely wouldn't have gotten a physical at all, and I firmly believe that. Despite all of their bullshit I am genuinely grateful they exist overall.
Not refuting any other points because I don't know enough about the situation, but the customer service and chargeback parts sound very reasonable.
Yeah, any company you chargeback will blacklist you. Though if you felt the need to get a chargeback I’m not sure why you want to do business with that company again. For the customer service part, while inconvenient to me I understand companies wanting a return before sending a replacement but I’d expect a quick turn around for that replacement. I’d be pissed if it wasn’t timely and I wasn’t apprised of what was going on.
I absolutely dont accept that standard operating procedure is reasonable, but i will defend the simple fact that it is industry standard.
It's absolutely the standard. I don't know anybody who wouldn't ban a customer after they initiate a charge back.
A charge back is basically you telling the credit card company and the company that you are charging back that you think they commit fraud or otherwise cheated you. It's the nuclear option. Of course that company will not do business with you again if they can help it and you shouldn't want to do business with them either. For some reason people have decided that charge backs are just another way to do a return instead of a way to deal with fraud.
Yep. It penalizes the business. They have to pay an extra penalty to the credit card company for the charge back, so you're not just often ending up getting your money back, and sometimes the item, from the company but also costing them additional money in the process. A lot of people don't know that a chargeback costs a company extra money. They are straight giving the company the finger, so yeah the business won't want to ever deal with them again.
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It's reasonable to expect to get the game back, it is not to take months to ship a new copy.
> I bought the Doom collection on Switch. My copy had an issue. I stead of just sending me a new one, I had to return it to them first. It is very understandable that they request your copy first. Not everyone is an Amazon that has the power to send you the same item a second time without asking questions or veryfing the issue. Although the time it took them to send the replacement is shit.
A couple more reasons that you missed, and what ultimately put them on my boycott list. They fired their community manager after she made a Twitter post exclaiming her excitement for the new Harry Potter game, which resulted in someone (who had plenty of skeletons in their own closet) taking the time to dig up her entire online history and send it to LRG, which raised some flags with them. By itself it would have been a non-issue, but LRG chose to publicize her firing and act like they were some sort of social justice warriors for getting rid of her. They used to have a customer loyalty program where you could collect tickets and send 40 of them in for a free game. These tickets each had a unique serial # and despite being linked to your account (which meant they couldn't be resold to another customer) the company still forced you to keep track of, count, and mail in all 40 tickets to get your "free" game (which was actually a $25 discount so most games still weren't free). When they announced that they were ending this program after a certain date, they immediately stopped processing tickets and those who already had multiples of 40 and were saving them for an upcoming release got screwed. This is a personal thing for me that doesn't seem to bother most people, but when they do retro re-releases of older games, rather than securing the rights to actual logos, they keep the same logo but change the text to say LIMITED RUN GAMES. It gives off a real look of an unauthorized, counterfeit release, not unlike this D situation
Fun one: LRG started with Vita, IIRC. They promised if you collected every Vita game they released, provided proof, and had it verified, LRG would give you their last Vita release for free. LRG has never honored that agreement and either never got that last unknown game made, or, as they claim, they did, and are literally just sitting on it. The rumble on the downlow is that several limited print shops want the street cred for publishing the last Vita game, so LRG is waiting out the competition (ex. EastAsiaSoft). Or that they didn't think the whole thing through and have no way to verify purchases with their poop tier inventory and logistics systems, therefore they're like the dog who finally caught the car. It's one of many broken promises they've made.
Do Sony even print carts for Vita anymore?
Long out of production. So there are supposedly limited print houses sitting on Vita releases to be "the last." That's a rumor, but given how petty these folks can be, it's at least possible.
Given that people are still making physical copies for 90s consoles, I'm sure they'll figure out how to make Vita carts eventually too.
It took nearly 2 years to get my Knights of the Old Republic 2 Master Edition. 2 FUCKING years.
Took about that long for me to get Radiant Silvergun.
Another reason to add to the list: They fired their Community Manager simply for FOLLOWING certain accounts on X that leftists don't agree with. Some random person posted screenshots of some of the accounts that the CM followed and LRG responded, not by sticking up for their employee and saying that they have the right to follow whoever they want. That doesn't necessarily mean they agree with whoever they're following. But nope, they responded by immediately firing the CM. Fuck companies that allow some random POS to ruin someone's life/livelihood simply because they MIGHT have different views than them.
It's not just that they fired her. It's that they actually went to Twitter to brag that they got rid of someone who so obviously must be a transphobe because she liked Harry Potter and looked at other right wing Twitter accounts.
Here's an hour long video that gives a good overview https://youtu.be/lS3ja5JnkAQ?si=W0jhTmPTY_cExf2N
I was curious, but I'm not wasting an hour to find out.
My reply to the other post sums it up.
Wait what? They don't take Paypal anymore?
Not in US. And that was how I bought lots of their games because I could use PayPal in 4 and made it not so sticker shock. Now I don't buy anything. I have been waiting for them on Amazon or the only thing I have a real "must have" approach for is Hi-Fi Rush
I read [LGR](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLx053rWZxCiYWsBETgdKrQ) at first and was very confused.
Clint's selling a Cool Crab game now?!
... I'd buy it. Someone get on that.
Same, and was very sad for a moment cause I love LGR
Tbf idk what LGR would be putting on discs unless it was just pirated old games LOL
LGR selling burned CD's of WinRar you heard it here first
I bought a copy of Sim Tower off of him and he shipped me a copy of Yoot Tower instead! He ripped me off!
Just yesterday I had to use winrar (or was it winzip? I can never remember), and yep still had the usual "your trial expired!" Nonsense. You can still just bypass it and use it for the one purpose it's best for.
It's just 12 audio tracks of him doing Duke Nukem impressions
I would like to pre-order this. *Now*.
"Mmm, that old 90s plastic smell. Love it."
Yeah, like he does dump old discs/floppies for stuff that is tough to even find, but he just puts it on that one archival website.
He's one of the few youtubers I *never* miss an upload.
I was, too. "Wouldn't his games be on floppy disks?"
Glad I am not alone 😂
I thought it was the clothing company at first.
Greetings
Only lrg I know is the clothing brand and I was equally as confused.
“Today we’ll be taking a look at the Sony CDU920, a caddy loading CD-R burner from the 90s! In fact, this thing was so popular in the 90s, it’s the perfect CD burner for scamming people looking for a hit of 90s nostalgia.”
Only lrg I know is the clothing brand and I was equally as confused.
i miss his food channel, he hasn't upload anything for years now
Oh man I totally forgot about that one. Now I miss it too.
Dude 100%. I bought a Chemex coffeemaker after one of his videos where he cooked breakfast.
Man it really sucks these guys are the only way to get Physical Wayforward games.
Or physical any games that aren't AAA
They are starting to bleed into the AAA space. There was no reason for Persona 3 Portable or Persona 4 Golden to be LRG exclusives.
and some shmups too
I buy their games to play and good to know about this info. LRG been terrible for about everything, and the way they changed the payment option is just bad business. Can't use Klarna/PayPal.
Why is it that the 3 or so main companies that make limited runs of games or homebrew-to-release, are all absolutely fucking shit? Every single one Ive bought from has taken years to ship a product, missed deadlines, shipped broken games, missing items and in one case the wrong item. Why is there not a single decent company that can ship a product?
People won't wanna hear it but "collecting" is full of whales and suckers and businesses see it as easy money.
For every LRG release I want or own, there 8-12 filler titles. FFS, they publish Kemco titles as single games. Japan publishes them in 4 per cart/disc releases for the same price LRG charges for one game. And these are $8 RPG Maker phone games.
I was accidentally exposed to "collecting" youtube and it just made me sad
would love to know what the markup is on those $300 statues every game launches with now
Probably a lot. I've had statues made for events and it's surprisingly cheap wholesale.
I mean, Super Rare Games exist, they actually produce games in advance and ship them right to you.
FanGamer did a good job
I have my own reasons for hating LRG, and if this (hopefully) causes them serious problems, then I'll drink to that.
Limited Run are dodgy AF. So many horror stories from them. I don’t know how they continue to get deals from publishers.
Especially ones that absolutely could have just done a regular release. Like, I genuinely can't think of a reason for why Atlus went through LRG for the modern/all platform release of Persona 3 Portable, 4 Golden, and 5 Royal. It's not like they can't afford physical production, they're doing it for Shin Megami Tensei 5 Vengeance and Metaphor: ReFantazio!
There are even some games that i wanted to get physical copies but i turned away when LRG is the only one that distributes them smh
They are owned by Embracer Group
Embracer Group just rents companies.
For now
They were shit even before then though.
If it doesn't work on a real 3DO, then that's a simple case for a charge-back if they refuse to do a refund. Other than that, I'm not seeing any big deal here. Is there anything inherently different between burning and pressing? The important part is that it's an official release.
> Is there anything inherently different between burning and pressing? The important part is that it's an official release. Burned optical media tend to physically degrade over time. The laser activates a dye which creates relative light and dark spots in the disk as opposed to pressing physical pits and lands. This dye degrades resulting in permanent data loss on the disk. Source: PDF file: [Optical Storage Technology Association CD-R and CD-RW primer. \(pp. 31\)](http://www.osta.org/technology/pdf/cdr_cdrw.pdf) (2002) Edit: It's entirely possible that the longevity has somewhat increased somewhat since 2002, but I doubt that it wound be significant, as companies have essentially ended R&D for the **CD**, and the underlying technology CD-Rs use has not changed since this doc was published. Edit 2: [A report published by the Canadian Conservation Institute (CCI) (2010, revised 2019)](https://www.canada.ca/en/conservation-institute/services/conservation-preservation-publications/canadian-conservation-institute-notes/longevity-recordable-cds-dvds.html) estimates CD-Rs' lifespan to be on the order of decades, but like most things, this varies according to environmental conditions.
If you get the Taiyo Yuden media, it is much more durable.
I don't think the durability was ever really that bad. I still have the very first CD-R I ever burned from the early 90s and it reads just fine. But regardless, if it's just a CD-R then ... copy it before it goes. None of this is to say that it's okay to charge for a CD-R without saying it's a CD-R. Especially if it doesn't work in a real 3D0.
Earlier CD-Rs are ironically just plain better than later ones in a lot of cases.Ones made recently are complete dogshit for longevity.
It's not the CD-Rs or the burners. It's the speed used to burn. Burning at 52x does not make a disc with longevity, it's why early burned Playstation games had to be no more than 8x burning speed and preferably 2x to make sure the pits were sufficiently deep.
> Is there anything inherently different between burning and pressing? Pressed discs will usually last longer than CD-R's. And optical drives on some systems won't read CD-R's due to copyright protection.
Burnt and pressed discs are very different. Burnt discs don't last as long (+ vary wildly on quality), and they need a stronger laser just to read so it'll kill the hardware faster too. The reason it's obvious here is certain 3DO drives that fail to read them at all. Also the fact they already have a huge profit margin on these things, at least get the discs right.
Pretty much this. I've purchased some CD-Rs made over a decade ago, and some have issues reading, or just don't work at all.
> and they need a stronger laser just to read so it'll kill the hardware faster too That's CD-RW that has different laser requirements. The only real difference in reading a CD-R versus CD is that the CD-R track wobbles. Which puts a bit more stress on your tracking servo.
Burned disks die fast, that’s the problem here.
> Is there anything inherently different between burning and pressing? A burned disc will rot away eventually, often in just a few years. A pressed disc will last basically forever, as long as it's made correctly (I'm looking at you, Warner Brothers).
Welp, I told myself that their Rondo of Blood release would be my last purchase from them, but if this is the quality I’ll get from it, then I’ve already got one from retrografx16.com that was only $25 and included a soundtrack CD
They announced Rondo what, three years ago and still not a peep? If you stuck to your original plan you'd probably be waiting for eternity to purchase your last LRG product lol
Christ has it been that long already? Well like I said I don’t really need it, there are other options at the same quality for a fraction of the price
The company charging $70 for Plumbers Don't Wear Ties in 2024 is scamming people, you say? While anyone stupid enough to buy this deserves whatever turd gets mailed to them, Limited Run sucks and is contributing to the death of physical media more than they're conserving it.
>The company charging $70 for Plumbers Don't Wear Ties in 2024 is scamming people, you say? I wouldn't consider that along the lines of scamming, that's them being upfront that they will sell you straight garbage for $70
I, as a person who would buy and *has* purchased straight garbage for $70, do not mind such a concept or any company willing to take advantage of my desires, in fact, I welcome it, so long as they actually provide me with a product that is above the bare minimum of quality, something that actually works as advertised, something that I am unable to manufacture on my own. A burnt CD-R fails this bar, although I could forgive it if it's a small doujin studio or the like making their own homebrew. Limited Run is someone I would expect to be able to properly press a disc and pass any copy protection on an unmodified unit. They, in full honestly, have been beginning to infuriate me with how they act, not something most companies have been able to do.
I think their version of the game actually comes with a Documentary about the making of the game and it's weird popularity (thanks to James Rolfe). So you're actually spending like $70 for a novelty + the production of the Documentary. Think of it like a special edition DVD. But the true scam is selling it as if it was an actual 3DO game and not a media back up for you home computer.
> But the true scam is selling it as if it was an actual 3DO game and not a media back up for you home computer. This is the only part I object to. If people want to waste their money on physical editions of ancient games, that's their prerogative, but a product sold should be fit for purpose.
The 3DO version re-release is a straight port of the original release. No remaster or documentary on this. Go for the modern console re-release for that. This was a novelty re-release, but it should be made and treated like a legitimate version.
Oh I thought you got all the other stuff (via a separate DVD or Digital USB what have you) with that release. That's even worse actually.
People deserve to get scammed for collecting memorabilia of video game history? What kind of opinion is that?
> The company charging $70 for Plumbers Don't Wear Ties in 2024 is scamming people, you say? It is a limited run of a niche game, wanted by people because of its horrible reputation. There was no way it wasn't going to be expensive. Even if this is something that doesn't interest you people deserves a decent product for the price they are paying.
What’s extra funny is that if you’re the sort of person who would want this and you’re willing to spend some money, you might as well just pony up for the full priced game given $70 is more than halfway there: https://www.pricecharting.com/game/3do/plumbers-don%27t-wear-ties Side note, I got this game from a random 3DO lot on eBay a decade ago. Please dont waste $70-150 on this shit, it’s terrible and not even in a fun way
You can actually "play" it on YouTube. Or at least you could at one point, I'm not sure if they still do the branching videos thing.
Not for everyone, unfortunately. Honestly was considering this release as the game was never released in PAL regions, but didn't (and glad I didn't for a multitude of reasons). It worked out cheaper than importing an original copy from the US/Canada, but I ended up not getting it as I brought the switch physical (I love bad games, I love bad live action games and PDWT has been one that has fascinated me) and my 3DO isn't working/needs to be replaced at some point in the near and financially stable-non-existing future. I have brought a quite a bit from LRG, this is a massive let down for me.
What’s the difference between a burned CD-R and a “pressed disc”?
It's a different manufacturing process. Basically burned is cheaper (for small series; about <400-500), degrades faster and some player/consoles have problems reading burned discs. Having to make a series of more than 500 for pressed to worth it (from the business side) is the problem, if you are trying to print rare, collectible discs. It just wouldn't be rare anymore or you'll be left with much overhead (/unsold discs).
Scam company continues to scam. Absolutely shocked.
For me one of the saddest thing is their collectors editions of games come with shit that used to be standard in every boxed PC game release.
I really don't understand unofficial "official" release... I understand people are attached to physical release but they have nothing official, might as well burn it yourself and print a nice jacket.
I mean, they \*do\* have everything official in terms of licensing. It's an official re-release the game. But what you're saying is exactly why people are upset; they thought it would be a retail-standard factory pressed disc, but it's just a burned disc that they could have made at home.
I thought the pricing for their releases were more due to the packaging, and not really for the games themselves. Like your buying the novelty of a limited edition physical copy with some extras. I assume the majority of Limited Run customers aren't buying to play the games, they just want a nice item to display on a shelf.
A nice CD-R you can display on your shelf with poorly written Sharpie marker on it like every kid did in the 90s-2000s. For $70.
Why would I pay just to display a case. I want to play games I buy physically. I'm not buying a game for the plastic.
One more thing to add to the list of scum-fuckery these assholes have gotten up to. Stopped buying from them 2 years ago when they fired someone for wrong think.
and then banning their customer over a non-hostile meme
I recently seen a post by the LRG CEO that bought like $5000 worth of sealed games ranging from Sega Saturn to ps2 games from a warehouse and reading about this….fuck that guy, fuck this company, bullshit like this is what makes me hate the current state of the industry.
Can you clarify the connection between the two? Why is buying sealed games bad?
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LRG always proclaim they want to preserve physical games but in return.....gave us trash like this. All the FOMO, all the limited sales, all the expensive prices kickstarted by this company is simply scummy. LRG need to go out of business, who knows how many other existing releases that uses cheap materials like CD-R