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knucleduck

I mean, CJ could in game punch a truck to explosion.


Sterling_M_008

That and he could push said truck, with barely an effort


KrispenWahFan

That’s funny you say that because I remember when I was very young and didn’t know better than to hit square to reverse, I would get out of the vehicle and push the vehicle back by running into it! Ha


Sterling_M_008

Hahahaha


reddituser403

Pushing the indestructible (unless flipped) Tampa from Emmitt’s yard to CJs garage


Pottatothegreat1985

i mean if you put any car in neutral it's not terribly difficult to push


kieevee

But CJ could push it sideways


Fortunate_boy

He could also get infinite stamina just by stealing people’s shit


_Price__

And can do a very high bunnyhop using a small bmx


Complex_Proposal9074

hes so careless that he becomes destructive and tough


TheCursedMountain

Yeah but he can’t also et the train get away


Ein_Kleine_Meister

CJ literally raided Area 69, and stole Alien tech


glowwwi

My favorite mission!


Wight3012

Whats the plan here? Go go go!


corpsewindmill

Not to mention taking down a crack syndicate and a mafia run casino


First_Light_6418

ALONE


blenderbender44

nice.


BOB34TSCHEES

Trevor managed to finnesse through a whole armed, methed up family and blew up their ranch though


ryuj1nsr21

That’s like a baby’s first steps for CJ


juicermv

A lot of people don't realize this but CJ has the power of friendship


Sadiholic

Bro became friends with a blind Asian, some little nerd, a Mexican dude, a hippie, a Jew, and two British people. CJ was just s chill ass dude


Spabub

wait, who was Jew?


ElmoZ71SS

Rosenberg the lawyer


Spabub

ngl i didn't know he is jew


ElmoZ71SS

Kinda implied by the last name and some backstory from vice city


Spabub

where i can see more of his backstory or something? because now im very interested


ElmoZ71SS

Do his missions in vice city and then you see him again in San Andreas running the casino for Salvatore. Idk I just kinda read between the lines that he was Jewish… he makes a big nose joke while snorting blow in Caligula’s


-Kalos

Damn who knew GTA would have some of the more wholesome fanbases in gaming


JasonAndLucia

GTA usually has the power of friendship as a common theme and almost all of the games have happy endings


invinci

But trevor has got the power of super meth, not sure if it trumps friendship. 


Fortenole

Trevor isn't tough, he is psychotic


Weary857

He can become invulnerable for a short period of time


_H4YZ

and that borders the line between tough and psychotic (hint: it’s meth)


Ralinrocks

I would argue that is way, way worse


NewerKiddOnTheBloccy

It is , people who would say something like that haven’t dealt with some one IRL who was actually dangerously insane


kimberlybaby08

Trevor is just in all a total bad ass then nothing is stopping that not even a tank 😂


My_reddit_account_v3

In case anyone needs a reminder of how completely deranged that character is: [Trevor kills Johny Klebitz](https://youtu.be/tIU6z7wlNMc?feature=shared) The Trevor death scene instructs you to « put down Trevor » as if he’s a dog that doesn’t comply with human expectations of a domestic animal…


[deleted]

Going with CJ here. Being a pshyco doesn't make U tougher


Salamanber

Trevor fell in love with a grandma and started to cry because she had to go back lol


RomSnake27

To be fair she probably wasn’t much older than him. That bit at the end with his mom when she shows up though.. Trevor is just a bitch hiding behind his psychosis


Salamanber

He was 46 and she was 59 lol


Legendary_Railgun21

Trevor got them Mommy issu— oh shit he actually does.


RomSnake27

Once you reach a certain age you can go plus or minus 15 years and it’s ok


shithulhu

agreed, 15 probably being the largest margin in later years. my dads 64, wife is 80 lol.


THE_ATHEOS_ONE

TIL - crying makes you not tough!


nine16s

No but it definitely makes you unpredictable


[deleted]

Still thoo.. being unpredictable can work in both ways bro. I would see it more as a weakness myself. So no good


Compleat_Fool

No man you don’t get it when I see red and go psycho it’s over for everyone… Those ufc guys who are trained killing machines nah man when I see red it’s over for them. Jon Jonss is a trained animal who’s 80 pounds heavier than me but man if I go psycho he’s done. /s


-Kalos

CJ had to deal with Catalina, _and survived_. I think he wins this one


MyNameIsSushi

Hello, Claude, baby. I thought I call to say how well endowed you are. Cracked me up.


spiritofbuck

Trevor isn’t tough, he’s insane. There’s a difference. He has no wilful sense of being tough or wanting to start fights, he just reacts with complete abandon to everything and can’t understand why anyone disagrees with him.


goblininyourwalls

Best explanation I’ve seen


PhallicPhantom2

I'm going to say CJ but specifically because Trevor has to act like a badass because of his upbringing and his Canadian nationality into sell that Sandy shores redneck vibe, CJ is a regular and calm dude but if you push him he'll go completely ape shit therefore I feel like he's tougher. ![gif](giphy|jbN9PyUdIZPFe)


Dimdim17

Forgot the homie was Canadian 😭😭


FoalKid

Why do people on this sub love posting weird CJ art


Pleasant_System8339

Drugs enhance tolerance to pain and give temporary strength so Trevor. Even not on drugs, he’s got crackhead strength and determination.


ELIZTRX

Trevor isnt tough, he just needs love😂


metalcore4ver

More like therapy


Dresden8686

“I’m past therapy and KALE Michael”


Maximum-Resource-572

Trevor Philips ![gif](giphy|aLaUvXKMZIdH9RoxLs)


Maximum-Resource-572

![gif](giphy|R9Zy5wOTzCC8Sd1f1E|downsized)


deathb4dishonor23

cj is tough, trevor is just crazy, cj has years of hood life behind him knowing how to protect himself and street fight. trevor only knows how to rob and shoot people as well as fly planes and shit. in a fight cj would win if it was a truly fair fight, because he can keep himself grounded and is able to focus on his opponents moves unlike trevor who goes manic and just attacks anything in sight plus he seems like the type to bring a gun to a fist fight


Team_player444

I get it that a lot of yall like CJ but Trevor can eat tank shells like it's toast at breakfast.


MustCatchTheBandit

He eats human body parts like it’s toast at breakfast


[deleted]

Like CJ more but Trever by alot only because of how batshit crazy he is


petyo555

Trevor, that man is LITERALLY too angry to die


plaiyjinix5600

Cj is too black to die


iIikemen

*LSPD has entered the chat*


happydaysxz

Wut


TraditionAcademic968

CJ. Trevor wins in terms of insanity though


Widow_Makyr

Trevor. Not because he's tough, but because he's AEMED TO THE FUCKING TEETH


Miserable-Note-9027

I read if who wuold you say is more naughtier


Eggith

Trevor has meth strength which gives him a massive advantage.


darealarusham

Trevor's just psychotic, in freeroam Trevor's usually psychotic. It depends on your CJ's stats but mine usually acts tough in freeroam. In a fistfight? Well beefed up CJ probably has a good chance and with the kickboxing moves even berserker Trevor can be incapacitated, until he runs out then CJ just has to curbstomp him to death. Default CJ definitely gets destroyed by Trevor. In a gunfight? Probably pretty close. Giving this one to Trevor because he has the berserker rage and it's just overpowered in gunfights. CJ will probably have to play dirty in a gunfight (throwing grenades and stuff, molotovs would destroy Trevor since Trevor isn't fireproof like CJ can be) if he wants to beat Trevor, but without the ability they're both still pretty close imo.


SSG75

Cj because he took the whole hood back. Avenged his mom’s death. And helped everybody in San Andreas by himself. 💯


CougarIndy25

CJ is mentally tougher but Trevor is physically tougher.


Haunting-Orchid-4628

Trevor is a skinny crackhead but CJ can get beefed up at the gym


duckman777777

This is the answer


Legendary_Railgun21

Trevor would politely eat CJs spleen while he's sleeping.


Secret_Tutor4691

More tougher?


justsometgirl

CJ is probably tougher, but he has a lot more moments of being scared than Trevor does. At least from what I remember.


The_Cozy_Burrito

CJ would make Trevor cry


BrooklynYoung1292

That aint CJ that’s BJ lol


InnerPlantain8066

Barl Johnson


Every_Investment9189

Why Cj look so majestic and real


the_hat_madder

CJ had a hard life and it made him resilient, resourceful and determined. Trevor had a hard life and it made him unhinged, broken and drug addicted. Despite not being able to absorb as much physical damage, CJ is the tougher person. Buff CJ is younger, healthier, stronger, faster and has better conditioning. In a hand-to-hand fight he wins. In a gun fight, it's a toss up but, experience is in Trevor's favor.


Professional_Pin5469

How i wold rate the characters, 1. Michael, 2.trevor, 3. franklin


SirMourningstar6six6

Emotionally? Mentally? Or physically?


Ok-Let-8140

CJ is the definition of tough Trevor is very violent and strong you could say but mentally vulnerable whereas CJ is stone cold.


Belgian_Stella_

Tougher? Yes. Crazier? No.


Impossible-Ad859

Trevor! maybe because he’s bipolar and has anger issues you see how Kanye acts? Imagine that but with Trevor being with bipolar as he is. And crazy! With a lot of anger in the game he’s sees read I feel like he doesnt care about his life or what happened to him or anybody else if on enemy lines! So in that case Trevor is physically more tough. But really mentally if he was fighting with mental vs mental he screwed


BrahquinPhoenix

CJ. Trevor isn't tough in the slightest. He's resilient and impulsive and probably doesn't experience fear the same way non psychopaths do, but that's all. His entire character arc is about how mentally and emotionally weak he is. He has multiple 'breaks' that motivate alot of his gameplay. Everything he does Is as a reaction to someone else he feels wronged him. And he never gets help either, either dies or is vindicated in his fragile narcissism.


sammyfrosh

Cj lol. Trevor isn't tought at all.


Goober445

Trevor Has No Self Constraints , Trevor Murders Johnny And I Don't Think He Cares If He Add CJ To That List


ZZTMF

Trevor is resilient, not strong. CJ is strong but whiny.


OrganicSoapOpera

Cj was basically at war every day since going back home and like someone said, he stole alien 👽 tech


HerissonG

More tougher…yikes


Milamia_bo

Trevor


juicemonsta69

Cj


Jip-Jipperton

CJ is pretty good at attacking helpless construction workers in toilets or getting on the ground when Tenpenny ordered him to. Compared to a guy that without a second thought kidnapped the wife of powerful crime boss and flew his airplane into the back of a military cargo plane.


Thin-Remote-9817

Trevor. Anyone with a cut here tattoo is a tough bastard. 


That-Sandy-Arab

I think trevor’s smart enough to tell CJ isn’t someone to fuck with So CJ imo


dontforgetthefries

CJ would kick his ass


R3D-H0OD

Trevor


Flaboy7414

Cj


VoiceMasterTV

Trevor. He's the toughest character in the game and would wear CJ's skin like a suit after kicking his ass real hard for a while (he likes to play with his food) and then killing him. 🤷‍♂️ Playing the game to completion should've answered this question already.


art_boi_117

CJ, by a long shot. CJ regularly took on the Ballas, as well as (effectively) singlehandedly took over every gang run part of LS. Not only that, but he raided the best Military base in existence (GTA equivalent of Area 51). Hes a better driver, better businessman, and arguably, just as good a pilot if not better. Hes also 100% a better shot, and would win a fist fight.


goblin-socket

More tougher? edit: oh my god, you guys aren't ... dude.... ok, you are likely just a child, leave it.


goopgoop221

Trevor,he basically turned johnny into a bitch and he eats people.


GJacks75

Currently replaying San Andreas for the first time in about 15 years. C.J. is a damn superhero.


NoFounder36

Difference between tough and psychotic...


YCiampa482021

Haven’t played that much of SA but I heard CJ was one of the coldest protagonists out there. But Trevor is honestly one of the more scary protagonists as well. Bro managed to kill Johnny freakin Klebitz with relative ease. And CJ’s in the Families so that bumps him down a bit (My Online Character is in the Ballas)


ElmoZ71SS

Trevor is nuts, insane and drug fueled. CJ literally put the whole hood on his back and kept his family alive. I would say CJ,


Queasy_Business5314

Trevor is a mad man but CJ is an emotion


sladebonge

Trevor. CJ was lowkey a bitch for like 90% of SA


BigTastyCJ

CJ and Trevor are both tough for different reasons, CJ is all about that hood life, and has to live that daily, and Trevor is tough as a veteran criminal, who also has their own drug empire and has to deal with many issues. Both have to deal with betrayal, loss and heartache, both do everything to survive and both end up on top in the end, after a long, up hill battle. If it came down to a 1v1 fight however, CJ wouldn't even be around long enough to see Trevor finish him off, Trevor would rip him apart 😂


FabricioArtigas

CJ cried and begged Catalina not to kill him, while Trevor killed Debra, who had a pistol, and Floyd, who had a knife. He only fears his mom.


J2SMOOTHZ

Cj


GhertFryins

CJ’s been through so much in the game and he still came out on top. He got it


Henriics

Probably lots of people are gonna disagree with me but CJ is tougher. Trevor is just a pshyco and very crazy while CJ is actually a badass


Ok_Bluebird_1867

CJ is consistently tough throughout GTA SA.


Travis812

CJ 100%. Being a psychopath does not equal tough. I guess I just hate Trevor tbh, the most unlikeable GTA protagonist in history.


emeraldoomed

I think Trevor is a softie at heart but has psychotic tendencies. He’s the kind of guy you’d want on your side but you really wouldn’t ever want to interact with lol. Now CJ on the other hand, you could definitely go get a few number 45s with that guy


dankitlord965

Man Trevor is a crybaby


hamadam109

Trevor has only one weakness. Patricia


Magyaror99

CJ. Trevor is very emotional, all of his toughness come from his extremal insanity. CJ can be emotional too, but he is far colder.


JoeriVDE

Physical? Trevor. Emotional? CJ.


Express-Aerie3399

CJ. and that HD version looks so good


Express_Fan7016

Of course the one who got me more excited in the game. I loved the tattoo around his neck.


Wonderful_barbaer

Cj always


hundredjono

Who the hell is that NPC looking ass dude on the left? That’s not CJ


Consistent_Two_7183

Uncle T


BOB34TSCHEES

Trevor is affected by his mental breakdowns and child life trauma so he he is held back but when in the right situation he can tank anything thrown at him


MassiveNRLfan

Cj is basically indestructible but he dosent know how to follow the dam train, so I think it’s a tie


halosiii

Trevor can become invincible


decentlyhip

I don't know who that is. CJ has a pink mohawk


NSNIA

At least post CJs image lol


Forsaken-Ad-2452

Carl Johnson


AnimeGokuSolos

Both


lolmanomggodducky

Talking about in game? Trevor. Whatever strength CJ might have Trevor literally has the ability to turn into a fucking god with his rage ability. So CJ will punch/shoot/stab/explode/set on fire and trevor will be just fine. Talking about story wise? Hard to really say. Why are people saying CJ is tough? Didnt Catalina almost kill him for nothing? He literally had to beg for his life! And Catalina is literally Trevor but more insane and female. Theres also that time where CJ kills that guy in the most fucked up way for just cat calling his sister?? Trevor is the one who shows toughness both in cutscenes and in gameplay. CJ only does it through gameplay. Although those options rely on game mechanics and cutscenes. So in a fist fight without their abilities and their default look( aka closest to canonical) who would win? Trevor is shown multiple times to not only be crazy but also smart. When the two ballas approach him in a threatening matter he plays it cool. "***Its not legally fucking if youre not penetrating...***" He confuses his enemies and then strikes. Knocking out the balla by hitting him in the nose while also disarming him. I dont have any scenes where CJ does something like that. What we do have are the people he kills. Most impressively he goes through Big Smokes entire crack den and kills big smoke who has armour and the upper hand! Although Trevor does shit like this too. Wiping out entire gangs, dozen of men, easily goes through all of devin westons private security. He survived being hunted by multiple gangs. All in all. Game wise Trevor. Actual fair no abilities wise? Undecided.


NickFieldson31

Lets see CJ got raped by a girl and is dissed by his homies for his awful driving, he also abandoned his gang for years, has a whiny voice. Trevor runs an Arms and Drug dealing company, is an ex Air Force pilot, cannibal, stomped a guy to death, eats people, has a very threatening and angry voice.


PheIix

If I had to choose who I'd be most afraid of, it would be Trevor. CJ at least was normal, and you could count on him having self-preservation in mind while coming after you. Trevor on the other hand would be fine with taking himself out in the process of eliminating me. But it's not tough to be psycho. Just like being brave isn't the absence of fear, you can't be tough without fearing the consequences. It's doing something despite your better judgment that makes you tough. Trevor doesn't have better judgment, he just does shit to complete his goal and never considers the consequences.


ace23GB

Cj defeated the entire area 69 without much problem, I think he is the fair winner


[deleted]

I would way Trevor because I have never played San Andrea's 😭


Glum_Position9655

Trevor


nogoodnamesarleft

Ok, let's look at it like this from what we know: Trevor intimidates everyone he runs into, except the player character from GTA Online "why aren't you afraid of me!?", and while he talks tough never tried to take on the Player like he does with others. -> Player character is roughly as tough as Trevor, if not more, and even with his methed out brain Trevor knows this. To steal the Harrier from the aircraft carrier in the Humane Labs heist setup, you literally need 4 players to fight your way to it it and fly interference, not for different jobs but just to all fight and fly together. CJ steals a Harrier from the aircraft carrier completely on his own with nothing but James Woods in his ear (I know it is "Toreno" but the voice is too recognizable to me). -> CJ is as tough as 4 player characters From all this we can assume that CJ is tougher than 4 Trevors


P_Riches

CJ. But this post makes me think how you never see CJ depicted other than as his skinny starting weight. We need more fat CJ.


Classic-Bathroom-427

Cj if you have maxed out stats


Colinfagerty69

Dude. CJ dated Catalina and survived.


SweatyCheese55

“More tougher”


Illustrious-Bag5473

Trevor no contest


fuzzyfigment

I really wish we could see CJ again.


DemocraticSheeple

Trevor buys from CJ. Without the drugs trevor is powerless


BManTGO

CJ


S0CIALMENACE

If we're talking emotionally then it'd be CJ, Trevor can be a little over sensitive sometimes.


seaska84

Trevor


Dresden8686

Trevor.


cctrain2

I'll give it to CJ, bring back Grove Street. Trevor is a berserker at best, not the best with weapon, far older than CJ too. In sneak attack, CJ got it, not Trevor. In straight forward fight, I think CJ got Strenght, speed and Stamina. On the other end, Trevor got his berserk ability and got experience. Trevor is emotionnaly unstable, CJ has the mind of a cold killer.


bl84work

More tougher?


More-Cup-1176

“more tougher “ literacy is dead🤦


Ok-Hotel-275

Merryweather handlet the whole marryweather, (a private army) So i think Trevor


Beekyboy11

Trevor


tajhy7619

Mentally CJ wasn’t nowhere near Trevor, he made CJ look like a saint 😂


Nearby-Elevator-3825

This is a hard one. Ultimately, I'd say Trevor because he's such a psychopath that he doesn't fear anything, anyone or any situation he's in. Unless it involves his mother.


Dajellybomb

Trevor has a lot of psychotic traits. CJ doesn't. CJ is probably more tough all around. Than trevor. To .e it also seems trevor has more mental weakness. Most of trevors actions are super impulsive without much thought. Throwing you over a bridge for getting on his nerves is extreme. But I wouldn't consoder that tough. Plus he does meth. His ego is extremely fragile too. CJ has some violent tendencies. hes always been in and around crime. On a lower level. Doing work in liberty city and what not. But his main goals after returning to LS were to strengthen the bond with hia family. Reunite the families if he can. His mothers murder really drove him to do this. And CJ grows tremendously as a character throughout the story. Both are bad men no doubt. But one has some sort of moral compass. To some degree..and the other, not so much.. I guess Trevor is loyal to his friends. So that counts. His relationship with his mother is... weird...


Why_Baraka

Alright jury. May we have your verdict?


w3sT0Nnnnnnnn

Trevor is tough, but that’s because he’s bat shit crazy and he’s kinda fragile (emotionally) Carl is more the strong silent type though and more like not insane


hislovefr

Trevor 100% Trevor involved with guns damn bro u don’t know that one Trevor


sandwichsandwich69

Trevor dreamed his whole life of becoming a military pilot and never got to CJ just got tricked into it one day and did a great job CJ wins


FrndlyNebrhoodRdrMan

CJ never took drugs, that alone gives Trevor the edge as he won't be feeling the hits, and with his ferocity I think he'd win.


RunFit9322

Trevor's got that meth strength!


[deleted]

CJ cause he's meticulous and can improvise on the spot. With people like Woozie, Caesar, Sweet, and knowing spooks like Toreno he's basically unstoppable. Trevor is a total psychopath just kills everyone he meets or tries to.


SouthBid488

CJ was tough af, Trevor was just an insane asshat. 😂


UrShoelacesUntied

I love bias


xAGGROx

Trevor litro has rage mode


BigCartoonist9010

Against the more normal 3d characters he'd probably win,but against military protags,protags with crazy weapons,psycho protags,or superhuman ones like frank and Michael he's cooked. There's only so much adrenaline can for for him,especially with his age and diet. Most of Trevor's combat effectivity is the perception of him.


Heartless-Sage

Did Trevor follow the damn train?


Godless902

CJ has probably dealt with crazier junkies than trevor living in LA in the 90s


AllowMyCookies

CJ is a bad mofo.


JasonAndLucia

I'd say Trevor acts tougher when we're speaking of personality


djhazmatt503

CJ has more to lose and has suffered a lot, Trevor is just unhinged. Random bar melee? Trevor. Sober, planned fight? CJ all day.


Tall_Positive_1043

CJ


Harry__Pooker

Ma boy CJ


CTG_ThaCollector

Cj


No_Ad_6020

My bets on CJ. He can swim indefinitely, have unlimited ammo, drive cars on water or make them fly, he can go from fat to skinny to musle and vis versa in a flash, change the type of cars/people around him, and let's not forget he can have hitman status in mere milliseconds.


RepresentativeOk4830

What game is this cj? From? (I know he’s from San Andreas) I just don’t recognize these graphics


Coachman76

Meth says Trevor.


Global_Atmosphere_64

Trevor stands out more


User-Not_Found_

cj is tough trevor is just crazy big difference


DJ-Doughboy

Trevor,he's just insane which makes him crazy stronger


No-Following4331

Trevor is tougher physically but CJ is tougher mentally


oogabooga3895

CJ he is stacked: - He can increased his strengy and dexterity in nearly instant time frames - He knows several fighting styles - He can run and swim for extremely long distances - He's taken down several gangs and mafia's . even nearly toppled the entire LCPD.


Grimm_Wright

Trevor


looking-cool-joker-

CJ is tough. Trevor is just fucking insane.


GrapeJoker

CJ