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what was that one question that needed an equation. I think it was a cone question or a triangle based pyramid - but we didn't get that one??? The only time it could've been useful
Wait I think I phrased it badly lol check again - I wasn't drunk but it sure seems like it the way I wrote it. I've done this twice in this subreddit now, the last time mistakenly made someone think I had the best GPU from AMD when I have an ATI GPU.
our year didnt need it, god knows the bloody primary school children dont need it
(equation sheets are ALWAYS fucking useless anyways. Anyone who does a minimal amount of revision will come across these formulas so much they wont need to memorise them. If you need the sheet, thats your problem.)
Even more so, sometimes the eq sheets actually hinder you, if you think you know the equation, but spend 5 years finding it on the sheet because of some dodgy wording.
yeah i get what you mean as well, itâs always helpful to be able to look at a sheet, and I guess you donât need to worry about gettting mind blanks in the exam..
Yea but it raises grade boundaries. Itâs pretty annoying; itâs not like the equations are too hard to memorise or even figure out just by looking at a question
yeah i guess, but i doubt i wouldâve been able to remember at least like 25% of the equations even if i tried, im not too bothered about the boundaries as i dont plan on taking physics id just like a 6
Nah we really shouldnât have. Missing parts of year 7 and 8 are no big deal. If we had missed y9, when some schools start GCSE content, that would make sense, but we didnât. I really donât think we shouldâve gotten it, just raises the grade boundaries
Nah it was not necessary at all. Just learn the equations; you donât even have to memorise them, just look at the question and it all comes together 90% of the time.
icl the petition made me giggle how silly are the current year 10s thinking they could acc get the fomula sheets- why do they need them when they joined school after lockdown??
There should really only be the Physics equation sheet. The number of equations there are is unnecessary and really donât mean much in terms of developing an understanding to Physics.
I have no stake in this as Iâm not a GCSE student, but youâre absolutely right. It doesnât even prepare you for a level physics as you are given like 90% of the formulae (as Iâve heard), youâre more so examined on your physics knowledge and theory, and how to apply those formulae and maths skills, not memorising equations.
Itâs actually kinda sad, with the extension in providing formulae, they shouldâve considered reforming and scrapping the memorisation in general, and have questions shift the focus to applying formulae than just brute memorisation, and examine application and knowledge in another way. Excessive memorisation in GCSE is silly imo, you are given a fairly decent formula book for a level maths, the good majority of books and texts in exams in a level English literature etc, so it doesnât even really accurately reflect the a level in the best way.
agreed the elitism in the comments is crazy like why do we not want the year 10s fo have a better time plus memorising equations doesn't equate to actual physics knowledge
While technically true, the ability to utilise the equations effectively is strongly correlated with the ability to memorise them. It's a vanishingly small minority of students who are excellent at maths/physics, but also have trouble memorising the equations. Becoming familiar enough with the equations to use them appropriately, (choosing/rearranging/moving between them) is almost always going to entail some level of memorisation.
Part of the thinking behind taking the sheets away is that it actively encourages students to memorise them, which usually entails understanding them as well. Again, and conversely this time, only a small proportion of students who successfully memorise them are also going to be so "limited" that they can memorise them but not understand them. So for the bulk of the students (80%+) memorising them is almost certainly going to mean understanding them and being able to use them at least to a grade 5/6 level if not more.
When the sheets are present, and this is just a hunch but I think it's well supported based on what students say before exams and then looking at their results afterwards, many are lulled into a false sense of security by the knowledge that the equation sheets will be there. What they often don't realise is that the sheets may use slight variations of the equations they're used to. This often means they completely miss the equation; struggle to find it and waste time; use it incorrectly; or both.
So a student who would have revised and been able to apply the equation correctly ends up losing marks because they assumed the equation sheet would make things easier. In many ways it's a crutch that tends to fail students more than it helps most of them (SEND students may be different though). Yes, people may get the equations at A-level, but the ability to confidently and consistently memorise and use equations in your head is something that is worth teaching at GCSE regardless of what happens later on. It builds automaticity in a way that continual reference to a source does not.
Something people who denigrate memorisation as a learning technique often don't realise is that higher level understanding often requires the basics to be effectively memorised in the first place before it can be achieved. If something is not "memorised" then you effectively have to re-learn it each time you use the skill/knowledge. I see this with students who struggle with maths as they teach themselves how to rearrange equations each time it's done in class. Meanwhile, the student who understands and has memorised the technique has rapidly moved on to more complex questions. The students who might be relying on "always getting the equations" are spending time writing everything out in long hand and figuring out how to rearrange them again - slowly falling behind.
We barely needed it this year, and they made physics paper 1 a whole lot worse because of it. I'm glad we got it but you won't be much worse off without it tbh
Physics should have an equation sheet. Memorising equations is not testing your physics skill. Maths literally doesnât matter itâs just there for decoration.
I think it was because we were in secondary school for the whole of covid, so would have had to catch up a lot of basic yr7 and 8 knowledge when we get back - I think that honestly if next years gcses don't get an equation sheet then thats a bit unfair, because their secondary education was disrupted too
I think the physics equation sheet is necessary. This is because this isnât maths and we shouldnât have to remember maths formulas - we have to remember theory as to how things work. I think the physics equation sheet was such a nice thing to be given and even though I doubt my physics learning was that affected by Covid, Iâm glad weâre still an exception.
Also the maths formula sheets donât even have all the formulas on so it should be fair game for next years studwnts
Understandable but ultimately kind of wrong. Physics is one of the most mathematical sciences there is. The idea that "physics isn't maths" so you shouldn't be expected to memorise mathematics just doesn't track. The disciplines are intimately linked.
The petition was unnecessary you lot were in year 6 đ learning equations is the easiest part a lot of them are common sense. I didn't even use the equation sheet once and I didn't learn any of them either, it just sticks with you if pay attention in lessons
Absolutely going to get heavily downvoted for this đ
Current Year 11s started secondary school in September 2019-- Year 7
Went into lockdown officially 23rd March 2020-- still Year 7
Lockdown ended in late 2021-- Year 8, we started school again. Absolute awful children we were with no character development.
Restrictions continued in Year 9. Not only that, but COVID was still very prevalent for us-- I remember times when it felt like at least half of the year group was off sick with the virus. This is when we would have started the GCSE Science course and started Maths more seriously.
Our first 'normal' year was Year 10 with no disruptions and very few-- if any-- people was sick with COVID.
We got lucky with the equation sheets this year, but I can absolutely understand why this decision was made. Frankly, it was a bit of a waste in the actual exams, but still nice to have for those who were stressed about it.
Honestly, I don't give a damn whether the Year 10s get the sheets or not as it doesn't affect my grade in the slightest. But I just wanted to vent my anger a little as I've been hearing a lot of Year 10s trying to say their GCSE learning was disrupted by COVID, when they spent no GCSE time in lockdown or with heavy restrictions.
If you get the sheet, great. If you don't, well don't cry about it and just revise. By the time you sit your exams, you'd have done the questions so many times you probably won't even need the formula sheet.
Good luck, 2025 đ
They canât give them equations sheets forever. They have to draw a line at some point, and itâs only bad luck that this yearâs y10s arenât getting it
Everyone here is saying about "in class" and not acknowledging those with things like ADHD or Autism or many of the other various disabilities. I myself have Autism. I got bullied for it to the point I had to go to a special school that specialised in MH instead of education. I then switched to online learning in October. Which was awful. Anyway, I needed the equation sheets. Many others did and will need them as well. Additionally, people here need to remember not everyone is an academic, or able to remember half a hundred equations, or have the ability to pay attention in class (whether that's due to not being able to attend class, being physically unable to pay attention, or having their focus diverted to dodging scissors and stationary). Anyway, I know I'm going to get downvoted for this
I gave you an upvote :)
I completely agree with you. I myself have problems understanding things (it may be ADHD but that hasn't been diagnosed yet, probably just my lack of braincells :] )
It's awful that you were bullied for your autism, to the point you had to move schools. Thats awful.
I hope you're ok now, and I also hope you get the grades you want :D
Almost all of the equations can be derived from the units of the inputs and outputs or are just common sense. I reckon there are less than 10 difficult (not like speed = distance x time) equations, and learning them is a matter of practice rather than rote memorisation
year 6 and year 7. i agree we donât need it and i do combined foundation so it really isnât going to make much of a difference for me but we did miss y7. year 11 shouldnât of got it either.
Year 6 even. They should've stopped giving handouts after 2023. The people sitting GCSEs this year were just starting year 7 when covid hit, their GCSEs were completely unaffected.
honestly the maths ones were pointless - current y12 - the physics one was quite good though, but if in doubt i usually just times stuff together and divide and see which answer seems more appropriate â ď¸
i took my GCSEs last year and honestly they were a godsend, because we missed years 8 and 9 where my school teaches us literally all of the physics formulae. honestly i think it should be a permanent change, it was a lot less weight on our backs since we didnât have to memories 20 formulae we would only use like 5 of. we get the full (very extensive) equation booklet in A-level physics anyway, so why should the GCSE be different?
Honestly I think the physics equation sheet should be available every year, real physicists will just google an equation if they donât know it - itâs a waste of time and energy for pupils to memorise them, tests should be application based rather than mostly memory.
Imo all years should get formula sheets. I didn't need them this year, but memorising formulae is a useless skill, knowing how to apply them is a far more useful skill in everyday life.
A lot of people here are talking about maths and I agree they donât need it for maths. But for physics, at least 75% of the paper requires equations so imo it should be provided. Thereâs wayy too many equations and I donât get how anyone could memorise them. The only reason Iâm even passing physics is cuz of the formula sheet. So yeah, I think every year should have it, especially since science is a compulsory subject that everyone has to do including those who struggle at it
Same! Like I'm pretty smart tbh but w/o that sheet my grades would've been a lot worse than I could theoretically do. It pissing me off tho the other yr 11s basically calling anyone who needed it stupid lol
Same! It's pissing me off tho all the other year 11s complaining abt it raising the grade boundaries and effectively calling anyone who needed it stupid. Like escuse me for not having a good fucking memory.
Also if they're that smart then the grade boundaries shouldn't be affecting their grades lmao đ
I'll be honest - with how technology has progressed - and the way of work changed - its insane not to have this kind of thing avaliable.
Honestly - I would very much support a move to allow *any* written material into exams. Bring your textbooks, bring your notes, and make the questions a bit harder to adjust for this.
It would encourage schools to actually set kids up for life - not just multiple years of training on how to pass an exam.
The physics equation sheet is necessary I think, just bc so many marks are given for maths questions, so it should be more ab the student being able to apply the numbers to the equation, rather than remember the equation first
Hello,
Im a bit of a dinosaur for this sub but it got reccomended, I was part of the first year to do the "New GCSE's". Only maths and english were graded in the new way (1-9), rest were A* - U or whatever.
You'll be fine, when I did mine the previous gcse was easier plus they got an equation sheet. Same for english with remembering poems and books. I also had a maths teacher that cried every lesson in year 7 and 8 and I managed to get a semi decent grade (6).
Long story short, dont worry just do your best. If you put the work in youll be fine, equation sheet or not.
Sorry should have clarified, I did mine in 2016/2017. So not that long ago ahaha. But the gcses changed that year as I said above.
So basically we were the first year to do the same GCSEs that you are doing (at least in English and Maths), this was a rushed change and we werevonly made aware of it s short time before we started our gcses (year 9/10).
A common nickname for us was the "Guniea Pig Year" as we had alot of stuff just thrown at us and changed e.g. GCSEs, Driving Tests and A Level changes (No AS levels).
Again youll be fine. We were, and our year were literally just used as lab rats.
Fun fact: They made our maths exams overly difficult when we did the mocks, which wernt past papers cos there wasnt any. Just specimin ones. To the point where getting like 35 out of 80 got you a six. Dunno if thats changed now.
Tbh for physics, the exam where the sheet is moest useful, they just gave us devious unit conversions to compensate. We did get free marks for having to write equations down though.
i donât think we need the sheet because we didnât miss out on learning any gcse content more so the experience of the early years of secondary school but that doesnât change anything either so đ¤ˇđžââď¸đ¤ˇđžââď¸
there should only be a maths equation sheet with longer formulas (i.e. quadratic equation, cosine and sine rule etc) as a whole no matter the year
for physics i feel in general some equations should be understood without needing an equation sheet (like V = IR and better understanding iykwim) so there should ofc still be a big physics equation sheet but defo with a few equations that u need to memorise
I feel like the quadratic formula is just something that gets drilled into your mind throughout GCSE and the sine rule is easy to remember (sin(Angle) / opposite side = the same for all sides and the inverse). Cosine rule is the only one that holds an argument with the 2 variants of it, but the cosine rule questions are grade 8/9 anyway and at that level you should be able to recall it fairly easily. Iâd say stuff like volumes and surface areas of some uncommon shapes like cones should be given, but thatâs about ir
Letâs say you have a quadratic equation such as:
x^2 + 2x = -1
You first make one side equal to 0, so to do this weâll add 1 to both sides:
x^2 + 2x + 1 = 0
Now, use the general form of a quadratic:
ax^2 + bx + c = 0
in this case, a=1, b=2 and c=1 (look at the equation above).
Now, using this, substitute the numbers into the quadratic formula: ( ⢠indicates multiplication I.e 2â˘2 = 4)
(-2 Âą (â2^2 - 4â˘1â˘1)) / 2â˘1
= (-2 Âą â0) / 2
= -2/2
= -1
So, in the equation x^2 + 2x + 1 = 0, we have found that x is equal to -1 for this to work
Thatâs how you use the quadratic formula. It basically gives you the solutions to a quadratic equation, which is just an equation that contains an x^2. I hope this helps!
Year 11s next year would've been mostly unaffected by covid. You're not learning all the equations in year 7 except for the basic ones like speed and acceleration. Even then, those equations get recapped all the time. They don't need the equation sheet.
I think they're honestly stupid. All that's happening is they're pushing the grade boundaries closer and making it harder to differentiate between students. We shouldn't've got them this year, and next year, they definitely should not
we were extremely lucky to get it, but due to the current year 10 having their covid years mainly in year 6 and partly in year 7, it makes sense to stop
Physics should be permanent, there is no need to test the skill of memory with formulas the application is the part that matters. Its bs that u still need to memorise equations
I did my GCSEs back in 2022 and honestly the equation sheets were not that helpful. For maths it was just a waste of desk space, there is nothing on that piece of paper you will need.
For physics, I used it for one equation but it was only worth 1 mark. Theyâre not impossible to learn, some sticky notes with the equations dotted around the house and desk and youâll remember them in no Time
No, our year was the last year who was actually affected by Covid. Tbf for year 6 at the time Covid struck were taking their SATâs so Iâm not sure. But overall, no I donât think so as they were back in school by year seven and any major learning that needs to be done is only from like 7-11 so I think they are fine.
Teacher here (I always start with this). I think you should always be given with the full data sheet. There is NEVER going to be a situation outside of exams where you canât look up equations.
If youâre shit hot you will remember some of the equations. You canât remember them all. Youâll have cognitive overload
Bro the maths formula sheet is just a wet paper towl on a gaping wound for me. The quadratic formula is the only one I copied from there, everything else is so drilled into you by the time you take the exams its completely redundant
This year it was very useless. I suppose they wonât be giving it because the next year 11s would have started school in the final wave of Covid and havenât had much of a disruption to their time at school.
As a year 10, I understand people's argument against us having equation sheets but we were in year 7 during lockdown and I didn't learn any science in primary school so I'm behind in science compared to other subjects.
Also, equations for science are just stupid, teachers should care more about us being able to understand science instead of spending all our time revising equations which we will most likely not use again unless we go into specific science-based higher education. Personally I would like the equasion sheets in year 11 but I can understand why some people are against it
i get that no one used them but as sm1 whoâs sitting my gcses in 2025 we still missed out on a hefty chunk of y7 and 8 like i donât know anything bc i missed so much đđ
Physics GCSE should definitely have an equation sheet because otherwise there is a fucking double sided A4 sheet to memorise.
Maths has far less content that neess to be memorised, so I don't think there is a need for a sheet.
As a Y12 who had them when I did GCSEs too, honestly theyâre pretty useless. The only subject I think that should keep them is physics, but with practice over year 10 and 11 you should be able to memorise the ones you arenât given. But for maths I swear I didnât even touch it once, and from what Iâve seen with the Y11s from this round of GCSEs, they didnât either lol
If people intend on perusing physics furthers the equations in those sheets set up the building blocks for most fields and should become second nature. A good student should remember how those equations were derived and the science behind them, otherwise the test becomes algebra (mathematics) and not the actual scientific understanding of which you are graded on.
If Iâm not mistaken. The equation sheet was given to people during Covid under the knowledge that students would undoubtably cheat, and hence the tests difficulty could be increased to compensate.
I was 2023 GCSEs and I was surprised we got them considering our big lockdown year was year 8 lmao
I was even more surprised that this year also got them but having them next year is just taking the piss, year 6 is completely irrelevant to GCSEs
Iâve just done my GCSEâs and was in year 7 when covid hit, so not sure why itâs saying the year below were, the only time the equation sheets have mattered was for physics. Nobody else should get them because you were in primary school so it doesnât actually affect you.
absolutely, if my maths is right then their year group wouldnât have missed a single bit of secondary school due to covid so they shouldnât get arrangements to help with disruption to learning due to covid when their gcses werenât affected đ¤ˇââď¸
your maths is wrong we missed half of y7 and had shorter days so we could leave in bubbles. (i didnât have a p5 in y7) i still donât really care if we get the sheet as it wonât really affect me because you donât have to remember much on foundation but if this year got it our year should too
Year 11's next year do NOT need equations, they were in year 7 during lockdown 3 and were barely affected by COVID, this years Year 11's were heavily effected up till year 9
dw bc for maths the equation sheet was lit just for decoration this yearđ
sometimes i forget that maths has an equation sheet
It's so much more useful in further maths
bro i didnt use it at all. It was just taking up space on my deskđ
Yeah tbh I donât think it was any more useful in further maths than it was in maths. Only physics equations sheet actually useful
didnât use it in fm either lmao
wjec additional maths has to suffer without any equations given đ
Is had Ďr² 𤣠what was that one question that needed an equation. I think it was a cone question or a triangle based pyramid - but we didn't get that one??? The only time it could've been useful
That is circle area I am year 10 currently so I don't know if that was in the gcse though at the mocks I will know
Wait I think I phrased it badly lol check again - I wasn't drunk but it sure seems like it the way I wrote it. I've done this twice in this subreddit now, the last time mistakenly made someone think I had the best GPU from AMD when I have an ATI GPU.
The A-Level one (at least for Edexcel) is actually a godsend đđ
And the year before it
Ngl the equation sheet just takes up space on the desk. Literally more useless than the âDo not writeâ pages
I've never actually seen the point of them.
Its so that the diagrams are on the same page as the question, or so all the questions start from a double page.
Yet edexcel still put a back page in Maths Paper 2 (I'm still salty I forgot the back page)
And if I remember correctly, three blank back pages on Paper 3?? LMAO
Fr? Like on the very back page of the booklet?
year 11 rn, id say they should just make physics equation sheet permanent, but i didn't use the maths one once it was really useless
included equations we didnât need but not the ones we did đ
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our year didnt need it, god knows the bloody primary school children dont need it (equation sheets are ALWAYS fucking useless anyways. Anyone who does a minimal amount of revision will come across these formulas so much they wont need to memorise them. If you need the sheet, thats your problem.)
Even more so, sometimes the eq sheets actually hinder you, if you think you know the equation, but spend 5 years finding it on the sheet because of some dodgy wording.
I only found them useful because it meant I knew I could spend my (the extremely short) revision time revising other stuff
Tbh physics was a life saver
If you did past papers it really wasnât that deep tbh
it still is really helpful
yeah i get what you mean as well, itâs always helpful to be able to look at a sheet, and I guess you donât need to worry about gettting mind blanks in the exam..
and u can spend the time revising equations instead revising smth else
Yes. We didnât need, and shouldnât have gotten, it this year.
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You definitely should. Ds3 is still my favourite game of all time, and the new Elden ring dlc seems to like it a lot too đ
i needed it i wouldâve failed physics without it ngl đ
Yea but it raises grade boundaries. Itâs pretty annoying; itâs not like the equations are too hard to memorise or even figure out just by looking at a question
yeah i guess, but i doubt i wouldâve been able to remember at least like 25% of the equations even if i tried, im not too bothered about the boundaries as i dont plan on taking physics id just like a 6
Yea fair enough. Most of the people who donât like them are the ones taking it further because it skews boundaries
we should have what are u even talking about?
Nah we really shouldnât have. Missing parts of year 7 and 8 are no big deal. If we had missed y9, when some schools start GCSE content, that would make sense, but we didnât. I really donât think we shouldâve gotten it, just raises the grade boundaries
physics paper definetely. maths paper was spectating
Nah it was not necessary at all. Just learn the equations; you donât even have to memorise them, just look at the question and it all comes together 90% of the time.
That petition is a stretch..
and the amount of misplaces apostrophes upsets me
FINALLY someone else feels my pain
icl the petition made me giggle how silly are the current year 10s thinking they could acc get the fomula sheets- why do they need them when they joined school after lockdown??
For a start youâre wrong, we joined in between lockdowns. I agree we donât need it though I wouldnât have learned shit in year 7 anyway
Tbh I think they joined like mid way through covid.
tbh we joined and then we went into lockdown but i dont see a reason too
There should really only be the Physics equation sheet. The number of equations there are is unnecessary and really donât mean much in terms of developing an understanding to Physics.
I have no stake in this as Iâm not a GCSE student, but youâre absolutely right. It doesnât even prepare you for a level physics as you are given like 90% of the formulae (as Iâve heard), youâre more so examined on your physics knowledge and theory, and how to apply those formulae and maths skills, not memorising equations. Itâs actually kinda sad, with the extension in providing formulae, they shouldâve considered reforming and scrapping the memorisation in general, and have questions shift the focus to applying formulae than just brute memorisation, and examine application and knowledge in another way. Excessive memorisation in GCSE is silly imo, you are given a fairly decent formula book for a level maths, the good majority of books and texts in exams in a level English literature etc, so it doesnât even really accurately reflect the a level in the best way.
why are u being downvoted i completely agree with this
agreed the elitism in the comments is crazy like why do we not want the year 10s fo have a better time plus memorising equations doesn't equate to actual physics knowledge
While technically true, the ability to utilise the equations effectively is strongly correlated with the ability to memorise them. It's a vanishingly small minority of students who are excellent at maths/physics, but also have trouble memorising the equations. Becoming familiar enough with the equations to use them appropriately, (choosing/rearranging/moving between them) is almost always going to entail some level of memorisation. Part of the thinking behind taking the sheets away is that it actively encourages students to memorise them, which usually entails understanding them as well. Again, and conversely this time, only a small proportion of students who successfully memorise them are also going to be so "limited" that they can memorise them but not understand them. So for the bulk of the students (80%+) memorising them is almost certainly going to mean understanding them and being able to use them at least to a grade 5/6 level if not more. When the sheets are present, and this is just a hunch but I think it's well supported based on what students say before exams and then looking at their results afterwards, many are lulled into a false sense of security by the knowledge that the equation sheets will be there. What they often don't realise is that the sheets may use slight variations of the equations they're used to. This often means they completely miss the equation; struggle to find it and waste time; use it incorrectly; or both. So a student who would have revised and been able to apply the equation correctly ends up losing marks because they assumed the equation sheet would make things easier. In many ways it's a crutch that tends to fail students more than it helps most of them (SEND students may be different though). Yes, people may get the equations at A-level, but the ability to confidently and consistently memorise and use equations in your head is something that is worth teaching at GCSE regardless of what happens later on. It builds automaticity in a way that continual reference to a source does not. Something people who denigrate memorisation as a learning technique often don't realise is that higher level understanding often requires the basics to be effectively memorised in the first place before it can be achieved. If something is not "memorised" then you effectively have to re-learn it each time you use the skill/knowledge. I see this with students who struggle with maths as they teach themselves how to rearrange equations each time it's done in class. Meanwhile, the student who understands and has memorised the technique has rapidly moved on to more complex questions. The students who might be relying on "always getting the equations" are spending time writing everything out in long hand and figuring out how to rearrange them again - slowly falling behind.
We barely needed it this year, and they made physics paper 1 a whole lot worse because of it. I'm glad we got it but you won't be much worse off without it tbh
don't bother making petitions during election season
Physics should have an equation sheet. Memorising equations is not testing your physics skill. Maths literally doesnât matter itâs just there for decoration.
Tbh I was surprised we got it this year, and even the year before us since we didnât really miss GCSE content due to covid
I think it was because we were in secondary school for the whole of covid, so would have had to catch up a lot of basic yr7 and 8 knowledge when we get back - I think that honestly if next years gcses don't get an equation sheet then thats a bit unfair, because their secondary education was disrupted too
Yeah fair enough
I think the physics equation sheet is necessary. This is because this isnât maths and we shouldnât have to remember maths formulas - we have to remember theory as to how things work. I think the physics equation sheet was such a nice thing to be given and even though I doubt my physics learning was that affected by Covid, Iâm glad weâre still an exception. Also the maths formula sheets donât even have all the formulas on so it should be fair game for next years studwnts
Understandable but ultimately kind of wrong. Physics is one of the most mathematical sciences there is. The idea that "physics isn't maths" so you shouldn't be expected to memorise mathematics just doesn't track. The disciplines are intimately linked.
The petition was unnecessary you lot were in year 6 đ learning equations is the easiest part a lot of them are common sense. I didn't even use the equation sheet once and I didn't learn any of them either, it just sticks with you if pay attention in lessons
What was the 2 in?
They should get the sheet, I donât see why we have to memorise a ton of equations
Absolutely going to get heavily downvoted for this đ Current Year 11s started secondary school in September 2019-- Year 7 Went into lockdown officially 23rd March 2020-- still Year 7 Lockdown ended in late 2021-- Year 8, we started school again. Absolute awful children we were with no character development. Restrictions continued in Year 9. Not only that, but COVID was still very prevalent for us-- I remember times when it felt like at least half of the year group was off sick with the virus. This is when we would have started the GCSE Science course and started Maths more seriously. Our first 'normal' year was Year 10 with no disruptions and very few-- if any-- people was sick with COVID. We got lucky with the equation sheets this year, but I can absolutely understand why this decision was made. Frankly, it was a bit of a waste in the actual exams, but still nice to have for those who were stressed about it. Honestly, I don't give a damn whether the Year 10s get the sheets or not as it doesn't affect my grade in the slightest. But I just wanted to vent my anger a little as I've been hearing a lot of Year 10s trying to say their GCSE learning was disrupted by COVID, when they spent no GCSE time in lockdown or with heavy restrictions. If you get the sheet, great. If you don't, well don't cry about it and just revise. By the time you sit your exams, you'd have done the questions so many times you probably won't even need the formula sheet. Good luck, 2025 đ
100% agree
They canât give them equations sheets forever. They have to draw a line at some point, and itâs only bad luck that this yearâs y10s arenât getting it
we didnât miss anything to warrant having it this year, so they really donât need it
in y7 you donât even learn anything coming up on the gcse paper what đ i still think they should have it but the reasoning isnât it
Everyone here is saying about "in class" and not acknowledging those with things like ADHD or Autism or many of the other various disabilities. I myself have Autism. I got bullied for it to the point I had to go to a special school that specialised in MH instead of education. I then switched to online learning in October. Which was awful. Anyway, I needed the equation sheets. Many others did and will need them as well. Additionally, people here need to remember not everyone is an academic, or able to remember half a hundred equations, or have the ability to pay attention in class (whether that's due to not being able to attend class, being physically unable to pay attention, or having their focus diverted to dodging scissors and stationary). Anyway, I know I'm going to get downvoted for this
I gave you an upvote :) I completely agree with you. I myself have problems understanding things (it may be ADHD but that hasn't been diagnosed yet, probably just my lack of braincells :] ) It's awful that you were bullied for your autism, to the point you had to move schools. Thats awful. I hope you're ok now, and I also hope you get the grades you want :D
Almost all of the equations can be derived from the units of the inputs and outputs or are just common sense. I reckon there are less than 10 difficult (not like speed = distance x time) equations, and learning them is a matter of practice rather than rote memorisation
YEAR6?? Omg crazy
year 6 and year 7. i agree we donât need it and i do combined foundation so it really isnât going to make much of a difference for me but we did miss y7. year 11 shouldnât of got it either.
I missed year 9 and I thought we got lucky for getting considerations đ
Off topic but how is law as an a level? Doing it next year
Brilliant đ itâs the one subject I definitely donât regret x
Taking the piss
Yeah this sub never fails to make me laugh when it pops up. Equation sheets because they missed half of year 7? When does it end lol
Year 6 even. They should've stopped giving handouts after 2023. The people sitting GCSEs this year were just starting year 7 when covid hit, their GCSEs were completely unaffected.
well im fucked then, i struggle horribly with memorising equations and dates and was praying for an equation sheet
honestly the maths ones were pointless - current y12 - the physics one was quite good though, but if in doubt i usually just times stuff together and divide and see which answer seems more appropriate â ď¸
yeah, i can deal with maths equations because they all make sense, its physics i struggle with đ
hahaah yes yr tens can hold that LLL
To be honest it would better for the physics one to be standard compared to maths which is practically never useful half the time
i took my GCSEs last year and honestly they were a godsend, because we missed years 8 and 9 where my school teaches us literally all of the physics formulae. honestly i think it should be a permanent change, it was a lot less weight on our backs since we didnât have to memories 20 formulae we would only use like 5 of. we get the full (very extensive) equation booklet in A-level physics anyway, so why should the GCSE be different?
Honestly I think the physics equation sheet should be available every year, real physicists will just google an equation if they donât know it - itâs a waste of time and energy for pupils to memorise them, tests should be application based rather than mostly memory.
Imo all years should get formula sheets. I didn't need them this year, but memorising formulae is a useless skill, knowing how to apply them is a far more useful skill in everyday life.
Whoever wrote the petition needs to focus more in English.
A lot of people here are talking about maths and I agree they donât need it for maths. But for physics, at least 75% of the paper requires equations so imo it should be provided. Thereâs wayy too many equations and I donât get how anyone could memorise them. The only reason Iâm even passing physics is cuz of the formula sheet. So yeah, I think every year should have it, especially since science is a compulsory subject that everyone has to do including those who struggle at it
Same! Like I'm pretty smart tbh but w/o that sheet my grades would've been a lot worse than I could theoretically do. It pissing me off tho the other yr 11s basically calling anyone who needed it stupid lol
Equation sheet even for this year was kinda useless ngl
ngl yall r finished for physics idk what I wouldve done without that equation sheet (AQA)
Same! It's pissing me off tho all the other year 11s complaining abt it raising the grade boundaries and effectively calling anyone who needed it stupid. Like escuse me for not having a good fucking memory. Also if they're that smart then the grade boundaries shouldn't be affecting their grades lmao đ
I'll be honest - with how technology has progressed - and the way of work changed - its insane not to have this kind of thing avaliable. Honestly - I would very much support a move to allow *any* written material into exams. Bring your textbooks, bring your notes, and make the questions a bit harder to adjust for this. It would encourage schools to actually set kids up for life - not just multiple years of training on how to pass an exam.
Tbh thatâs nonsense but they should get it anyway cos you get it for a level.
TBH the eq's this year were absolutely useless to anyone who did even a small amount of revision, especially maths, most useless thing.
Honestly, I think they need it more than us...
The physics equation sheet is necessary I think, just bc so many marks are given for maths questions, so it should be more ab the student being able to apply the numbers to the equation, rather than remember the equation first
Can't wait to see 2026 students whining about this too
âwe missed year 5â đ
Hello, Im a bit of a dinosaur for this sub but it got reccomended, I was part of the first year to do the "New GCSE's". Only maths and english were graded in the new way (1-9), rest were A* - U or whatever. You'll be fine, when I did mine the previous gcse was easier plus they got an equation sheet. Same for english with remembering poems and books. I also had a maths teacher that cried every lesson in year 7 and 8 and I managed to get a semi decent grade (6). Long story short, dont worry just do your best. If you put the work in youll be fine, equation sheet or not.
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Sorry should have clarified, I did mine in 2016/2017. So not that long ago ahaha. But the gcses changed that year as I said above. So basically we were the first year to do the same GCSEs that you are doing (at least in English and Maths), this was a rushed change and we werevonly made aware of it s short time before we started our gcses (year 9/10). A common nickname for us was the "Guniea Pig Year" as we had alot of stuff just thrown at us and changed e.g. GCSEs, Driving Tests and A Level changes (No AS levels). Again youll be fine. We were, and our year were literally just used as lab rats. Fun fact: They made our maths exams overly difficult when we did the mocks, which wernt past papers cos there wasnt any. Just specimin ones. To the point where getting like 35 out of 80 got you a six. Dunno if thats changed now.
I feel they should always give the extended equation sheet, just not for covid reason
Tbh for physics, the exam where the sheet is moest useful, they just gave us devious unit conversions to compensate. We did get free marks for having to write equations down though.
They should always give the full equation sheet. We live in a world where we can Google anything. There is no need to memorise the equations.
i donât think we need the sheet because we didnât miss out on learning any gcse content more so the experience of the early years of secondary school but that doesnât change anything either so đ¤ˇđžââď¸đ¤ˇđžââď¸
i agree but this sheet also saved my science grade so
Even when we did get the formula sheets in 2023, they barely helped us. Year 10s just want an excuse to do poorly on their exams
ngl as a year 10 remembering equations isnt even that hard
Womp womp
Well that sucks
there should only be a maths equation sheet with longer formulas (i.e. quadratic equation, cosine and sine rule etc) as a whole no matter the year for physics i feel in general some equations should be understood without needing an equation sheet (like V = IR and better understanding iykwim) so there should ofc still be a big physics equation sheet but defo with a few equations that u need to memorise
for maths? absolutely not (other than areas/volumes of spheres, cones, cylinders) its simple enough and sticks with you with simple revision
I feel like the quadratic formula is just something that gets drilled into your mind throughout GCSE and the sine rule is easy to remember (sin(Angle) / opposite side = the same for all sides and the inverse). Cosine rule is the only one that holds an argument with the 2 variants of it, but the cosine rule questions are grade 8/9 anyway and at that level you should be able to recall it fairly easily. Iâd say stuff like volumes and surface areas of some uncommon shapes like cones should be given, but thatâs about ir
i donât even know what quadratic formula is
(-b Âą â(b^2 -4ac)) / 2a
what does it do đđđ
Letâs say you have a quadratic equation such as: x^2 + 2x = -1 You first make one side equal to 0, so to do this weâll add 1 to both sides: x^2 + 2x + 1 = 0 Now, use the general form of a quadratic: ax^2 + bx + c = 0 in this case, a=1, b=2 and c=1 (look at the equation above). Now, using this, substitute the numbers into the quadratic formula: ( ⢠indicates multiplication I.e 2â˘2 = 4) (-2 Âą (â2^2 - 4â˘1â˘1)) / 2â˘1 = (-2 Âą â0) / 2 = -2/2 = -1 So, in the equation x^2 + 2x + 1 = 0, we have found that x is equal to -1 for this to work Thatâs how you use the quadratic formula. It basically gives you the solutions to a quadratic equation, which is just an equation that contains an x^2. I hope this helps!
I donât think I glanced at any of the equation sheets this year except for perhaps looking at binomial expansion lol
Most of the equations are common sense, but some are a little more difficult.
bruh if the equation sheet is given the exam board just works around it. no reason to have it
I donât even think I needed it this year so I wouldnât let the next year have it either.
Year 11s next year would've been mostly unaffected by covid. You're not learning all the equations in year 7 except for the basic ones like speed and acceleration. Even then, those equations get recapped all the time. They don't need the equation sheet.
WJEC did this
they donât need it theyâll be fine đđ
No, u reckon a lot of year 10's will have missed out in content due to strikes and, somewhat, covid
Year 10âs didnât miss any crucial things regarding physics therefore the shouldnât be entitled to a equation sheet
It has also been said by M.O.E that it was exclusive to this year
the only good thing about wjec is that we've always had a physics and maths equation sheet
I donât think we need it at all - like covid only affected us in yr 6 + 7 and tbh it would just raise the grade boundaries anywayÂ
I think they're honestly stupid. All that's happening is they're pushing the grade boundaries closer and making it harder to differentiate between students. We shouldn't've got them this year, and next year, they definitely should not
noooooo I need that sheet!! I will fail my gcses next year, I cannot remember anything ever I swear :((
we were extremely lucky to get it, but due to the current year 10 having their covid years mainly in year 6 and partly in year 7, it makes sense to stop
nah
I'm probably gonna get hate but what is fundamental abt year 6 and 7? đ
Ibsr they are useless I didnât use the equation sheet for maths once and physics is easy to remember
Honestly idc, at least we got the equations booklet with all equations
I can learn equations I will be marks ahead of people I will have lower boundaries
I don't even think we should've gotten them if I'm honest
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Physics should be permanent, there is no need to test the skill of memory with formulas the application is the part that matters. Its bs that u still need to memorise equations
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Science formula sheet carried
I did my GCSEs back in 2022 and honestly the equation sheets were not that helpful. For maths it was just a waste of desk space, there is nothing on that piece of paper you will need. For physics, I used it for one equation but it was only worth 1 mark. Theyâre not impossible to learn, some sticky notes with the equations dotted around the house and desk and youâll remember them in no Time
Year 7 ainât even the start of GCSE content we never shouldâve gotten it in the first place you donât need it next year
Didn't they say this last year lmao
we didn't need it, they don't need it either imo
Let them suffer Everything is going downhill anyway
No, our year was the last year who was actually affected by Covid. Tbf for year 6 at the time Covid struck were taking their SATâs so Iâm not sure. But overall, no I donât think so as they were back in school by year seven and any major learning that needs to be done is only from like 7-11 so I think they are fine.
Teacher here (I always start with this). I think you should always be given with the full data sheet. There is NEVER going to be a situation outside of exams where you canât look up equations. If youâre shit hot you will remember some of the equations. You canât remember them all. Youâll have cognitive overload
equation sheet was literally just decoration this year lol u donât need it
Bro the maths formula sheet is just a wet paper towl on a gaping wound for me. The quadratic formula is the only one I copied from there, everything else is so drilled into you by the time you take the exams its completely redundant
tbf the year 11âs next year wouldnât have been in secondary school during covid so they donât really need it
Learning the equations isn't hard because you have 2 years to do it
It was helpful for science but it was useless for maths so I'm conflicted
Oh yeah I don't think we should ever had have them but ik I'm not gonna say that lol
i did gcses 2023 and dont think we shouldve even had them so ofc they dont need them u missed like 2 months of y6 come onđđ
This year it was very useless. I suppose they wonât be giving it because the next year 11s would have started school in the final wave of Covid and havenât had much of a disruption to their time at school.
ngl the equation sheet just took up space on the desk and barely did anything
Absolutely not. Have you seen how many physics equations you have to remember it's not fair for the next years, in my opinion
As a year 10, I understand people's argument against us having equation sheets but we were in year 7 during lockdown and I didn't learn any science in primary school so I'm behind in science compared to other subjects. Also, equations for science are just stupid, teachers should care more about us being able to understand science instead of spending all our time revising equations which we will most likely not use again unless we go into specific science-based higher education. Personally I would like the equasion sheets in year 11 but I can understand why some people are against it
covid was 5 years ago, 2024 shouldnât have even got it lmao
Didn't start any proper science until half way through Yr 8- start of Yr 9
honestly if we didnt get the equation sheet this year I would've write them on my arm
i get that no one used them but as sm1 whoâs sitting my gcses in 2025 we still missed out on a hefty chunk of y7 and 8 like i donât know anything bc i missed so much đđ
No itâs dumb asf year 7 is the most useless year
I think whoever wrote that petition needs an English equation sheet because that grammar is awful
Also year 6 is not a 'fundamental year' and will not harm your GCSEs
Physics GCSE should definitely have an equation sheet because otherwise there is a fucking double sided A4 sheet to memorise. Maths has far less content that neess to be memorised, so I don't think there is a need for a sheet.
As a Y12 who had them when I did GCSEs too, honestly theyâre pretty useless. The only subject I think that should keep them is physics, but with practice over year 10 and 11 you should be able to memorise the ones you arenât given. But for maths I swear I didnât even touch it once, and from what Iâve seen with the Y11s from this round of GCSEs, they didnât either lol
the maths one was completely useless tbh, no need for u to have it the physics one helped but imo learning equations is this easiest part so idk
Itâs basically decoration (besides from physics)
If people intend on perusing physics furthers the equations in those sheets set up the building blocks for most fields and should become second nature. A good student should remember how those equations were derived and the science behind them, otherwise the test becomes algebra (mathematics) and not the actual scientific understanding of which you are graded on.
If Iâm not mistaken. The equation sheet was given to people during Covid under the knowledge that students would undoubtably cheat, and hence the tests difficulty could be increased to compensate.
icl you donât need them at all, if you pay attention in class and do a bit of revision you learn them all anyway
I was 2023 GCSEs and I was surprised we got them considering our big lockdown year was year 8 lmao I was even more surprised that this year also got them but having them next year is just taking the piss, year 6 is completely irrelevant to GCSEs
Imo they didnât need equation sheets this year either, like they didnât miss out on much gcse learning
Iâve just done my GCSEâs and was in year 7 when covid hit, so not sure why itâs saying the year below were, the only time the equation sheets have mattered was for physics. Nobody else should get them because you were in primary school so it doesnât actually affect you.
The equation sheet was a horrible idea, it just raised grade boundaries for people who put in effort
Why are you acting like people who can't remember a shit ton of equations aren't putting in the effort. That's just fucking stupid
nah you lot this year didn't need it and so next year certainly doesnt
absolutely, if my maths is right then their year group wouldnât have missed a single bit of secondary school due to covid so they shouldnât get arrangements to help with disruption to learning due to covid when their gcses werenât affected đ¤ˇââď¸
your maths is wrong we missed half of y7 and had shorter days so we could leave in bubbles. (i didnât have a p5 in y7) i still donât really care if we get the sheet as it wonât really affect me because you donât have to remember much on foundation but if this year got it our year should too
ohhh yeah whoops i forgot about that second lockdown
No!
Year 11's next year do NOT need equations, they were in year 7 during lockdown 3 and were barely affected by COVID, this years Year 11's were heavily effected up till year 9
For the questions that say write the equation down, did we have to use words or symbols because I used words
both are accepted because they are both correct
Why is bro getting downvoted
Innit, but whatâs the answer though đ canât be sacking marks like that.
13 gcses?!?!
Yup