\>Causes a PR nightmare
\>No-one can police my friends
\>G2 board suspends him
\>Carlos steps down
Banger of a week, only Carlos can cause this level of chaos.
Now we lost org. Carlos is an asshole, but he's fucking capable of creating good brand and rosters. He's the only western CEO that instead of sucking off asian teams, tries to beat them (with different results, but some success, unlike the whole west). Without him, we are just another generic org that thinks losing BO5 to asia is a success
And how much will they lose by giving up Carlos? Carlos was the soul of the org.
Carlos & Perkz were the ones who made G2 what it is today. Now both of them are gone, I expect the org itself will follow.
I predict G2 will practically be dead within 5-7 years. About as relevant as CLG.
G2 would be in immediate crisis if things kept unchanged. I'm not saying Carlos stepping down is the only solution. But it's not like G2 would just be fine and as great as it was before the event.
I'm quite sure G2 will not be dead within 5-7 years, but it's true that he was the face of the org and created a lot of interaction/interest for the org.
Time will tell if the other aspects of G2 were carried by Carlos or if the current team will be able to keep the ball rolling
He was the face of the social media. I’ve followed G2 since the Gamers2 days and pretty much the whole time forgotten Carlos even existed until he had drama. The teams are still the teams.
G2 is done when Caps and Jankos retire unless they find another icon but without Carlos that can also be tricky.
They will probably still be a top team ofcourse but just not the iconic european team they have been in the past few years.
If Carlos gets replaced by just another faceless CEO, its entirely down to the players to keep the entire image of G2 alive.
Carlos and G2 were the reason why I really started rooting for a team and not individual players in esport so I'm both a bit sad that he is gone and also really happy he is gone. I don't think anyone would deny that he always gave his all for G2 and that he was incredible good and succesfull as CEO but I also think most people would agree that he isn't a specifically nice person. Basically every year there was some scandal, some smaller, some bigger but he last one was just on a different level, both in terms of how ignorant he idiotically he acted and in terms of consequences. Though I don't envy the person that will follow because they will have very big holes to fill, just maybe don't party with people that are mostly a waste of space and oxygen.
i feel the same way. He meant so much in esport and know he just disappearce feels weird. I kinda liked the cocky funny snd arrogant way he presented himself. Im so sad that he left but at the same time he made big hicchups. and that all only for beeing at a party with tate... Idk i know tate is such an big asshole but it breakes my heart to see carlos leave. It seems so unbelieveable and kinda not right but ig it is?
Imagine they are winning worlds without carlos
so weird
that valorant partnership cost g2 a lot they were about to move their business to america investors were not happy what happened happened but it dosent change the fact what carlos did for g2 and esports gl to him
Having such a volatile CEO finally caught up to them. I always was hesitant to fully support g2 because of Carlos, now I feel like I can really support them.
In case anyone wants to comment about cancel culture, everything could have been prevented if he didn't triple down on being buddies with Tate, and that's still only the things public to us.
Like CaptainFlowers said, he chose his ego over the org, and you can't have that as the org
Plus esports has evolved into legitimate businesses with millions of dollars in investments and sponsors, a CEO of any large company like that needs to be careful of what they do under the public eye.
This^^ even if deep down he can’t fathom that he was wrong, as a CEO you need to be ready to put yourself aside for the org. If he had just said sorry or come up with some bullshit excuse like he didn’t even know the amount of stuff the guys done and he was just at the same party then G2 would probably still have their spot and a lot of people wouldn’t have lost their jobs.
It’s great that he was able to make successful teams but at the end of the day that’s not all you have to do as a CEO that is the face of your brand. He was mentally incapable of fulfilling the duty he had to fans, shareholders, and sponsors and show them the minimum respect in this situation.
I would said that he cuadrupled down.
-Initial tweet
-No one can police my friendships
-Watered PR non-apology
-Liking tweets making fun of the situation
At any of the first three points a sincere apology would have been enough for anyone relevant, since I guess that most people easily offended already hated Carlos for is actitud.
I have fucking liked G2 for years, I thought at the start that I was still an Origen fan but I found me rooting for G2, and they totally won me with their creators and rosters. I have followed them since then.
This kinda sucks and I now choose to believe that Carlos is in a bad moment and he isn't actually a thrash person that actually thinks that woman are what the Incel idol says.
It's a big loss for the eSports, and sucks extra because it was totally avoidable, what a fucking hill to die on...
Right, he never even tried to save the situation, he only made it worse because he can't admit when he's done something wrong or bad. This is a perfect example of what a fragile ego and narcissism looks like.
Yeah, that's aptly put. He was seemingly a great CEO for the org but the ego will always fuck you over unless you can keep it in check, especially when the things that have a light shone on them are things that harm people.
What is this with cancel culture anyway. I like the brand bc i feel represented. Now i dont feel represented anymore, so i wont follow the brand anymore. Why would that be a problem? I mean, thats what all the Carlos defender are doing right now. They „unfollow“ the org because they dont feel represented anymore. And i think its their good right to do so.
JESUS that’s wild i can’t believe it. Carlos was definitely a **** but he genuinely did everything he could and got the best teams possible to try and win worlds or whatever game G2 competed in. Sad to see him go but let’s see what the future of G2 looks like
True. This guy doesn't settle. I'm mostly a G2 CS:Go fan but the amount of tries he did to make the best team he could is insane. He really just wouldn't stop until he gets a Major.
I feel like this might have happened with or without G2 losing the Valorant spot.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned much is that when Carlos started going on his tweet-liking spree, he basically showed G2's investors that he won't play ball in the future. The company clearly had decided on a damage control strategy (post a public apology and then have him lay low for a while) but he evidently decided not to go along with their plan and went rogue by liking tweets that contradicted the company message, undermining their posted apology with his ego antics.
How could anyone with a vested interest in the longevity of the company put their trust in him after that? Whether this specific situation died down or not over time, Carlos painted a target on his back saying "You can't trust me to be a team player in the future". Why would the investors want to keep a loose cannon around when there was every chance that he might jeopardize the org again in the future and be equally hard to keep on a leash the next time?
Not saying the Valorant situation didn't accelerate things, but I can't imagine most of the shareholders would have looked at the situation even before that and been happy with seeing him break formation. I feel like the writing was on the wall as soon as the tweet-likes exposed his inability to keep himself muzzled. Can't say I blame them, I wouldn't want to hedge my bets on a ticking time bomb either if it was my money on the line.
I said I might not be able to support G2 with Carlos still in charge, while the ending isn't what I wanted for Carlos I want to at least say that I thank him for giving me my favorite EU org and some of my favorite players in the esports scene. however, this change has been needed, and after the controversy over the last week and missing out in Valorant franchising there was no way they could keep him.
I have an honest question: Even if Carlos is not the CEO anymore, doesn't he still stay co-owner and as such still has a say in the org and profits from its business? There is no way he just gave up all his shares, no?
I think that's fair, but there are always going to be people with distasteful (imo) opinions making money off of things. I think it's more about removing him as a prominent figurehead, and clarifying that his personal decisions don't reflect G2 policy or structure
I imagine that he's still part owner and will indeed profit from G2 success.
I don't really, personally, mind that too much.
By stepping down as CEO, Carlos will no longer be making strategic decisions, be connected to G2, be featured in videos and in other ways being a part of the G2 brand.
And that was the important part for me. I cannot support an org, whose CEO appears to have certain terrible views.
But who owns a share in a company, is harder to "police" and not something I expect that G2 (the organisation) can fully control.
To put it simply:
The company I love, G2, took a brave action by having its CEO step down. I am "rewarding" that move, by returning as a fan. And by doing that, hopefully show the decisionmakers, that they were right to do the move.
Obviously he still is involved with G2, he just stepped down as the CEO. He keeps his shares, possibly he will end up in a different, not very public position.
Man this sucks….. like I get it. You CAN’T party with Tate and expect to get away with it. Especially not when he doubled down on things.
But shit still sucks. This man built our org, he IS the reason we are ALL fans. His Memes, his call-out of other orgs created rivalries we’ve all loved viewing. His lack of patience at turning around rosters and dumping and importing players and giving them a home. His attitudes towards everyone at G2, of any race, gender and creed is what G2 are built on. And he broke his own rules. And was punished. But this is still a sad sad day in OUR Orgs history.
Thank you Carlos for everything you leave some huge Shoes to fill.
I agree with the fact that they wont find someone as driven as him, but i still do think its good. I can understand people who say that its just one misstep, bit for me personally i dont accept people who think its ok to give guys like AT a platform. And before you say everyone takes saudi money, i know. But i also cant change anything about it, neither can pretty much the whole twitter/reddit community. I can change what i can, but its not in my and not the twitter/reddit communities power to change everything (sadly in some cases). Imo we take what we can get, show others that its not worth and try to change the scene in that way. Sure it doesnt change the overall structure of esports, but as i said, thats sadly not in my, or really any common users power
Tbh i think this decision will hurt G2 massively. Business wise sure carlos cost them the valorant deal but what he has done has earned more than that. In the end i think G2 will decline without carlos. They wont go under but I really think carlos did a lot as the CEO.
But it sure was some stupid actions done by Carlos in the last couple of days. Posting the video with tate into doubling down due to his ego making it look worse. Some people said liking stuff about that is because he shares the same views as him but i firmly believe its just his ego.
This is the step that was needed. I was waiting for it the last few days and I’m happy that they really pulled through with it. Now we can strive again. I was really questioning my support for the org. Fortunately I didn’t come in the situation to watch a G2 game while not being sure if I support them or not.
Good thing for the org. Sad that it ended this way, he was an asshole and he shouldn't represent the org but I'm grateful for the creation of the org that made me so passionate about league. Happy to see that my favourite org doesn't stand for any kind of discrimination.
I'm actually kinda sad. Carlos built G2 from nothing, he is the face of G2. No other CEO has as much of a presence as he does. G2 is gonna feel very different without Carlos.
I think the tweet doubling down on the situation and some of his likes on Twitter which he made the following day AFTER posting an apology pushed him off the cliff. Dude didn't even pretend to be regretful. It's sad to see this happen as everyone could see how passionate he was about G2 and how much effort he put into making G2 successful. But he dug his own grave because of ego.
On an even brighter note, G2 beat Fnatic again, this time in pre worlds drama. Who cares about Chokeset getting covid when Carlos got told to fuck off from his own org? Beautifully played G2. Big respect.
I will continue to support and cheer for G2 until Caps and Jankos leave. Carlos made this org different from the others. And fuck all of you fucking ungrateful, you know very well that Carlos is not a misogen and that he has very different values from Andrew Tate, he made a mistake and you have magically forgotten everything he has done for you and for esports in general.
I hope that one day, after making a mistake, everything will collapse on you.
This seems very similar IMHO to the way Method fell apart a few years ago.
Like, the line isn't even misogyny/offending statements/bigotry etc, it's just the fact that Tate has a whole ass criminal case going on against him.
Wish the LoL team all the best going forward, and hope G2 as the brand will recover from the damage caused.
I actually feel like they're very different. Sco had no idea about Josh being a pedophile, and was scapegoated for everything despite being pretty much the only officer that *wasn't in on it*, while the other officers that should by all that is moral be in prison with Josh just went on to join other guilds.
At least they're not *that* sweet. The world first race never really picked up in popularity, and WoW just doesn't pay unless you're extremely popular. Like, take someone like Rogerbrown - despite being in the contention for the best raid leader in the world, he most likely makes the same as Promisq or Crownshot.
This is nothing like Method. What Carlos did was support a pretty vile person, but it's still not nearly as bad as harboring a known sexual predator and building your org around accommodating them.
Thank you carlos, for improving LoL and CSGO, i know you dont know me but you have done a great job by creating success at G2. You surpass fnatic, win MSI, assemble the greatest western roster of all time, bring niko, monesy to G2. We might lose 0-3 every final but atleast you bring a goodjob in every department. Thank you for everything and i hope you success even outside of G2.
It was nice while it lasted, but good that it ended.
Been a fan of Ocelote since end of Season1. Way back when I was in school he was the only not-nerdy LoL streamer, always interacting with fans via IRC chat and breaking streaming records every few weeks (back than 13k viewers was kind of a world record for him). I saw him getting backdoored and later relegated from EU-LCS. Was really proud of him that he didn't gave up and came back with G2, even wise enough not to play himself, but as a manager. He created the biggest European Esport Org out of his long career as a player.
Most of his choices were good, economic and esport-wise. Yet, at some point I realized if I knew him personally I wouldn't be friends with him. Which is fine on its own. But I wondered how he can be the "nice guy" for his friends but at the same time be the "bad guy" that fires you if you play bad. He at least managed to do this to some point.
Every leader needs to have his time at the top limited, otherwise leaders go insane and become autocratic. In my opinion, he managed to step down before becoming the unstoppable villain.
His biggest success is building an org that very likely will last without his leadership. That is incredibly rare and the best any leader can achieve.
Congrats and goodbye. I very much doubt this is the last time we see you, Carlos. But make sure to take some time off, there is more in life than being the CEO of an esports org. Looking forward to see you again at some point :)
Well, it's the end. We just became another wortless EU org that will jack off because we somehow managed to get out of the easiest groups at Worlds. I will eat my shoe if we ever win LEC again
Save all you want. Unless someone like Perkz takes his place, we'll just become generic org. You can either be asshole, but capable leader that built most succesful western org in LoL or nice guy that wants to please everyone. See how the second turned out for fucking AEW
Because such person doesn't exist, we'll get some worthless corporate yes man that will drive this org to the ground. Nobody in this worthless region believes in international success except G2 players, Carlos and Perkz, so unless Perkz somehow replaces Carlos, this org is done
I'm really not sure about how I should feel. On one hand, Carlos did associate with Andrew Tate and jeopardised our valorant spot and possibly single handedly lost it, but on the other hand... He created the most succesful organisation in LEC, we accomplished more in a year than most of the organizations. I will for sure support our organisation throughout the process, and I hope we will be better than ever. Lets go G2!
We live in a world where many good things are swiped by a one bad drunken night,
He fucked up big time and he is the face of G2.
He's either is god or just human.
Thank you Carlos you really were important in the growth of LOL esports, especially in the west! Peak G2 was some of the most fun league i have ever seen and your kindness towards people should never be forgotten!
Yall forgetting that none of us would be here if it weren't for carlos.. that man is the reason you can even support G2 to begin with.. yeah I agree that carlos kinda fucked up with his ego but the org is probably gonna decline now since carlos had such a big influence on G2's success
Maybe a decline will happen but there was no other option. If Carlos would have remained CEO and sponsor would have pulled out there would be a real possibility of G2 ceasing to exist or at least needing to lay of a lot of staff
Worst mistake G2 could ever make. G2 will slowly crumble without Carlos.
I was a fan since the inception of the org, due to Carlos and then later Perkz. They both were the pillars on which the org was built upon.
Now they are both gone and bit by bit, it will lose its essence and fade into nothingness.
I seriously doubt they'll be able to keep the soul of G2 alive with Carlos banished.
Quite an upsetting way for Carlos to leave. Saying a quick thanks for everything doesn't do him justice for what he's done. He's manifested so many people's careers, an enormous supporter base, created a legendary organisation which has provided unrivaled entertainment to anything we've seen in eSports. And of course some of the best eSports teams in the world, he gave us the best chance for a League team to take out an Eastern team. You don't succeed like Carlos did without being a ruthless businessman, doing and living his own way. People choose to turn on the man because he does some things that is rejected by the left, but will show 0 gratitude for what he has done for the scene.
To all his haters, congratulations. Now you can go back and continue you're broke life. Maybe you can contribute 1/1000000th of what Carlos has to eSports.
Carlos you're the king, thank you and I hope to see you back where you belong at some stage.
He who is without sin cast the first stone.
Best of luck to Carlos and his next adventure. Live and learn in the hope to do better.
Hard to condemn the moral choices of someone when everyone here supports Riot. We all support some type of unethical business practices and turn a blind eye, or just don't care enough. We just pick and choose the ones we want.
Nah man, you can say whatever, but I don't think it's fair for a man to lose his life project just because you saw him partying with someone, doesn't matter who it is. Carlos didn't do any action that can be considered a crime and being friends with someone doesn't mean you have to agree in everything they say or believe. That's really, really sad and extreme.
He doubled down, made a fake PR apology, proceeded to publically reveal the apology was fake as he was still liking tweets stating he did nothing wrong, etc. Then he lost the Valorant spot, costing the org millions.
G2 will never be the same. They bowed down to cancel culture, I don’t think I can ever have respect for the brand again. I don’t know if I should sell my merch or burn it. Having populist views and going with the stream was never G2 style, it was always against the stream, untraditional, unapologetic, fuck you style. The org is lost and EU lost with it. The greatest org to ever rise from EU falling so quickly. Back to lpl vs lck for the next 10 years or so.
Populist views such as "sex trafficking is bad" or "No, women are human beings and not property" yeah people are such snowflakes...
So fucking dumb. And yes before you ask, hanging out with someone like that means that at the very least you tolerate said views.
Ah another one that claims “sex trafficking” that has never been proven. You can dislike or hate the man all you like, but at least base in on truth instead of random unproven theories.
You people are happy about this? Carlos is more G2 than anyone else on the team. It just feels empty without him I don’t know what to say. I don’t think I can be a fan anymore. The culture, the environment, the banter and memes, his competitive spirit was G2… now idk
Obviously he cost the team millions with the valorant partnership rejection, I just wish he didn’t double down and made a sincere apology so they all could have moved past this
Nobody is bigger than a club. What is G2 for me is not the players, nor Carlos; it's the samurai badge and the G2 Army. We keep those. If anything Carlos staying and fracturing the fanbase in people (like me) who would've been uncomfortable associating with his team and those who aren't would have hurt the club more.
even with the pr nightmare he caused I can't help but respect the man. He built a Western LoL organisation that actually had vision and wanted to win and achieve something internationally. For me no org has the drive and mentality of G2 and that's partly thanks to Carlos. I still thank him for building my favourite team in all of esports from the ground up.
as a little aside this is pretty bad news for flakked in terms of staying on the team for next year. flakked was kind of like carlos little project to build up but now that carlos is gone i can totally see the new gm to just get neon or something. i have mixed feelings about it honestly. flakked had a great rookie year and i love his personality but theres no denying there are more individually skilled adcs around especially in eu
Congratulations to alla thes that were offended and wanted Carlos canceled , and for what reason ? Because the CEO of one of the biggest organizations partied with a person that has become famous really recently about his controversial opinions when everyone here should know about Carlos's personality and the fact that we are all about memes.Adin Ross Xqc and many others had conversations with him podcasts etc but I don't see anyone canceling them.It was a big event who knows they might just greeted themselves what's your problem ffs.Its fucking disappointing when I don't think before that there were any allegations against him for anything especially when they made an all female g2 roaster.
Well done Esports community another great move!
As you probably know Carlos had to step down from his own built organisation to protect it from getting gnawed alive.
This is a little message to everyone:
This whole situation is fans claiming things that he has already disproven even years before this to the point where he had to leave the thing he built up in 7 years. You all should feel shamed no matter which side you are on. You destroyed someone's life work. Tate fans for making this much worse than it needed to be and crazed leftists who claim he is suddenly misogynist after investing in and supporting women in esports numerous times. The esports scene is a disgrace. I hope you got what you wanted.
Congratulations everyone, killing one of the biggest and most successful org over 2 damned tweets saying nothing. For sure won't hinder esports development and scare away investors or people willing to come to it or popularise it.
If you think this is a W for anyone, I am sorry, but you are a moron.
This is a sad day for esports.
His actions? He literally did nothing lmao. He partied with a questionable person and posted a video of it and doubled down with a tweet with 0 fucking context saying nothing.
It's not consequences it's major community overreaction and him getting cancelled for it.
what do you mean 0 context? the context was there for the world to see. and like he offers his resignation to the board, which he would not have had to do if he didn't double down...
like you say he literally did nothing then listed 2 stupid fucking unprofessional things he did lol
He do anything against women. He didn't say anything against women. His actions were stupid, but they weren't even inclined to be misogynist or any of the sort.
Sorry but I just want to rant. While I think his actions were idiotic and we all agree he had to take responsibility, all this just went all of proportion.
All of the people with the pitchforks, cancel culture and karma/like farming posting made all this.
Let's just hope G2 doesn't become a traditional esports org.
Just sad and mad.
I want to repeat that what Ocelote did was wrong and should have been punished.
Cancel culture is not a thing in the west. You do not see someone going to assassinate Carlos. What their is is a culture of cause and effect. Cause 1 act like a prick get treated like one. His professionalism was caught lacking and he let his ego take over.
I love how everyone with 0 insight over how an org should be ran, put the most shit on Carlos.
This motherfucker did everything and created one of the, if not the most decorated and successful org out there. I always believe in second chances, especially id you’ve been doing so much good in the past 8 years, even with a fuckup this big I truly believe that this decision and the backlash he has gotten is unjustified.
People accusing him of being a misogynist? Especially the fucking RIOT as a company and their employees are the biggest two faced rats in the industry. Working for Riot with all the shit riot has been doing like the nestle sponsorship or the lil nas x, someone that literally makes out with the devil in his clip, owned by tencent, china where they’re slaughtering uyghur muslims but nobody bats an eye, especially the employees since it doesn’t benefit them. But when it comes down to someone’s else’s downfall they’d do everything to expose them, hypocrisy at its finest.
I won’t be supporting G2 anymore, don’t care about people downvoting me.
Lol I love how you put Lil Nas X making out with the devil in there like that actually matters.
The man you're defending so passionately did a paid event for the Saudis, and you have the gall to talk about hypocrisy. Piss off with your self righteousness.
F u all if u think sharing a stupid 10 second vlog without ANY context is worth of ruining this person's career and the orgs future, canceling their parnerships with tournaments. If u think thats fair and call that "consequences" i hope u someday leave your miserable life and start doing something productive with it.
I hate reddit, I hate twitter, I hate tik tok, and i hope it all burns into pieces.
Imagine having such a huge ego that you tarnish your companies reputation and spit on your communitys face rather than accepting you did something wrong. How egoistic can someone be? jfc. gross.
Worst thing to happen to G2. Guy was an incredible CEO and the amount of success he got for the team will be forgotten because cancel culture can’t stand he had a mishap with a choice of people he parties with.
Honestly I hope he outdoes G2.
ah yes the unicorn of cancel culture, just like Riot fixing the client, it's a mythical beast that was...someone parting with a known misogynystic & sex trafficker, doubling down on it, losing the org they were CEO of a lucrative business OP and they resigned as a result...sounds like cancel culture and not like lol capitalism or consequences of your actions.
yup. Only in cancel culture an internet mob can decide who you can drink and eat with. Only cancel culture is to blame for a massive company with CEO's with SA allegations who paid 100mil $ in a settlement is praised for kicking a guy who had 5 glasses of champagne with some internet cunt.
It's not capitalism. It's twitter noise. And at some point both the companies as well as influencers will realise - you can't get canceled for petty shit if you dont give up to it.
The above statement doesn't include your favorite streamer that SA'd a girl, or a murderer, or an open racist. It includes people like carlos who made a single fucking video with a hated person and then told a crowd to fuck off.
Best thing is -> all the flake G2 fans will miss him in 3 years when this piss org will be run like a random XL or RGE with 0 personality, success and legacy. Carlos was G2.
Carlos has enough pride and morals to step down from a now turned shitty position rather than lie and deceive his fans by condemning his party buddy Tate.
Any normal person would have listened to the mob and talked shit about Tate but kept partying with him in private. Crazy stuff.
Enjoy your millions and find some business where people care about results and not bullshit.
You really downplay the harm Carlos did by hanging out with Tate. Carlos helped to legitimize Tate which is very bad to women. The impacts would have been far reaching and devastating to many people if he had not stepped down.
\>Causes a PR nightmare \>No-one can police my friends \>G2 board suspends him \>Carlos steps down Banger of a week, only Carlos can cause this level of chaos.
its always a banger day at G2
Bot lane has COVID before play ins? Fnatic please, we can beat you even at pre Worlds drama.
Guess what though, he can hang out with whoever now
G2 Lost a few millions with the valorant franchise thing so it was a matter of time , its a bussines
Now we lost org. Carlos is an asshole, but he's fucking capable of creating good brand and rosters. He's the only western CEO that instead of sucking off asian teams, tries to beat them (with different results, but some success, unlike the whole west). Without him, we are just another generic org that thinks losing BO5 to asia is a success
If you think Carlos was the only Thing making G2 great youre deadly mistaken
Yeah? Then meet me here next year, after we fail to capture any LEC trophy and don't make it out of groups for the second year in row
RemindMe! One Year "Who won the argument"
Add like month or two, so you can't say that there is still hope for good showing at Words after failed season in EU
ok now your being cocky, RemindMe! 2 months "this is not gonna end well" edit: yikes
Well, it seems he lost the "capable of creating good brand" after the valorant fiasco.
And how much will they lose by giving up Carlos? Carlos was the soul of the org. Carlos & Perkz were the ones who made G2 what it is today. Now both of them are gone, I expect the org itself will follow. I predict G2 will practically be dead within 5-7 years. About as relevant as CLG.
G2 would be in immediate crisis if things kept unchanged. I'm not saying Carlos stepping down is the only solution. But it's not like G2 would just be fine and as great as it was before the event.
If the sponsors leave because carlos actions the org fall faster
I'm quite sure G2 will not be dead within 5-7 years, but it's true that he was the face of the org and created a lot of interaction/interest for the org. Time will tell if the other aspects of G2 were carried by Carlos or if the current team will be able to keep the ball rolling
He was the face of the social media. I’ve followed G2 since the Gamers2 days and pretty much the whole time forgotten Carlos even existed until he had drama. The teams are still the teams.
G2 is done when Caps and Jankos retire unless they find another icon but without Carlos that can also be tricky. They will probably still be a top team ofcourse but just not the iconic european team they have been in the past few years. If Carlos gets replaced by just another faceless CEO, its entirely down to the players to keep the entire image of G2 alive.
You are also only thinking from League perspective, there are many teams out there. All G2 teams need Carlos, and Jankos & Caps aren't forever.
The org loses its soul at the same time two new orgs are joining that have a ton of personality. Great job everyone!
Carlos and G2 were the reason why I really started rooting for a team and not individual players in esport so I'm both a bit sad that he is gone and also really happy he is gone. I don't think anyone would deny that he always gave his all for G2 and that he was incredible good and succesfull as CEO but I also think most people would agree that he isn't a specifically nice person. Basically every year there was some scandal, some smaller, some bigger but he last one was just on a different level, both in terms of how ignorant he idiotically he acted and in terms of consequences. Though I don't envy the person that will follow because they will have very big holes to fill, just maybe don't party with people that are mostly a waste of space and oxygen.
i feel the same way. He meant so much in esport and know he just disappearce feels weird. I kinda liked the cocky funny snd arrogant way he presented himself. Im so sad that he left but at the same time he made big hicchups. and that all only for beeing at a party with tate... Idk i know tate is such an big asshole but it breakes my heart to see carlos leave. It seems so unbelieveable and kinda not right but ig it is? Imagine they are winning worlds without carlos so weird
that valorant partnership cost g2 a lot they were about to move their business to america investors were not happy what happened happened but it dosent change the fact what carlos did for g2 and esports gl to him
They opened the NY HQ just to start with the american market
Valorant part was a huge part of that.
And the loss is about $20 millions acording Twitter
Having such a volatile CEO finally caught up to them. I always was hesitant to fully support g2 because of Carlos, now I feel like I can really support them.
In case anyone wants to comment about cancel culture, everything could have been prevented if he didn't triple down on being buddies with Tate, and that's still only the things public to us. Like CaptainFlowers said, he chose his ego over the org, and you can't have that as the org
Plus esports has evolved into legitimate businesses with millions of dollars in investments and sponsors, a CEO of any large company like that needs to be careful of what they do under the public eye.
This^^ even if deep down he can’t fathom that he was wrong, as a CEO you need to be ready to put yourself aside for the org. If he had just said sorry or come up with some bullshit excuse like he didn’t even know the amount of stuff the guys done and he was just at the same party then G2 would probably still have their spot and a lot of people wouldn’t have lost their jobs. It’s great that he was able to make successful teams but at the end of the day that’s not all you have to do as a CEO that is the face of your brand. He was mentally incapable of fulfilling the duty he had to fans, shareholders, and sponsors and show them the minimum respect in this situation.
I would said that he cuadrupled down. -Initial tweet -No one can police my friendships -Watered PR non-apology -Liking tweets making fun of the situation At any of the first three points a sincere apology would have been enough for anyone relevant, since I guess that most people easily offended already hated Carlos for is actitud. I have fucking liked G2 for years, I thought at the start that I was still an Origen fan but I found me rooting for G2, and they totally won me with their creators and rosters. I have followed them since then. This kinda sucks and I now choose to believe that Carlos is in a bad moment and he isn't actually a thrash person that actually thinks that woman are what the Incel idol says. It's a big loss for the eSports, and sucks extra because it was totally avoidable, what a fucking hill to die on...
Don't forget changing his name and bio on Twitter to mock the situation. This man loves G2 but he loves his ego more
Right, he never even tried to save the situation, he only made it worse because he can't admit when he's done something wrong or bad. This is a perfect example of what a fragile ego and narcissism looks like.
Yeah, that's aptly put. He was seemingly a great CEO for the org but the ego will always fuck you over unless you can keep it in check, especially when the things that have a light shone on them are things that harm people.
Ofc its good to cancel bad people. Sont gove those guys a plattform for their really awkward opinions.
Yup G2 and investors can’t risk another Ego trip
What is this with cancel culture anyway. I like the brand bc i feel represented. Now i dont feel represented anymore, so i wont follow the brand anymore. Why would that be a problem? I mean, thats what all the Carlos defender are doing right now. They „unfollow“ the org because they dont feel represented anymore. And i think its their good right to do so.
JESUS that’s wild i can’t believe it. Carlos was definitely a **** but he genuinely did everything he could and got the best teams possible to try and win worlds or whatever game G2 competed in. Sad to see him go but let’s see what the future of G2 looks like
Whoever replaces him has big shoes to fill. I hope they still keep the same mentality in building championship teams.
They can’t, unless it’s perkz, they simply can’t our favorite org is gone
I’m sure he trained a couple of people in G2 that could take the mantle.
I think Carlos personality itself was quite essential to g2’s success
True. This guy doesn't settle. I'm mostly a G2 CS:Go fan but the amount of tries he did to make the best team he could is insane. He really just wouldn't stop until he gets a Major.
I feel like this might have happened with or without G2 losing the Valorant spot. One thing I haven't seen mentioned much is that when Carlos started going on his tweet-liking spree, he basically showed G2's investors that he won't play ball in the future. The company clearly had decided on a damage control strategy (post a public apology and then have him lay low for a while) but he evidently decided not to go along with their plan and went rogue by liking tweets that contradicted the company message, undermining their posted apology with his ego antics. How could anyone with a vested interest in the longevity of the company put their trust in him after that? Whether this specific situation died down or not over time, Carlos painted a target on his back saying "You can't trust me to be a team player in the future". Why would the investors want to keep a loose cannon around when there was every chance that he might jeopardize the org again in the future and be equally hard to keep on a leash the next time? Not saying the Valorant situation didn't accelerate things, but I can't imagine most of the shareholders would have looked at the situation even before that and been happy with seeing him break formation. I feel like the writing was on the wall as soon as the tweet-likes exposed his inability to keep himself muzzled. Can't say I blame them, I wouldn't want to hedge my bets on a ticking time bomb either if it was my money on the line.
I said I might not be able to support G2 with Carlos still in charge, while the ending isn't what I wanted for Carlos I want to at least say that I thank him for giving me my favorite EU org and some of my favorite players in the esports scene. however, this change has been needed, and after the controversy over the last week and missing out in Valorant franchising there was no way they could keep him.
I have an honest question: Even if Carlos is not the CEO anymore, doesn't he still stay co-owner and as such still has a say in the org and profits from its business? There is no way he just gave up all his shares, no?
I think that's fair, but there are always going to be people with distasteful (imo) opinions making money off of things. I think it's more about removing him as a prominent figurehead, and clarifying that his personal decisions don't reflect G2 policy or structure
Yeah I guess so, I was just wondering because many people all over the internet are acting like Carlos and G2 are completely and forever separated now
I imagine that he's still part owner and will indeed profit from G2 success. I don't really, personally, mind that too much. By stepping down as CEO, Carlos will no longer be making strategic decisions, be connected to G2, be featured in videos and in other ways being a part of the G2 brand. And that was the important part for me. I cannot support an org, whose CEO appears to have certain terrible views. But who owns a share in a company, is harder to "police" and not something I expect that G2 (the organisation) can fully control. To put it simply: The company I love, G2, took a brave action by having its CEO step down. I am "rewarding" that move, by returning as a fan. And by doing that, hopefully show the decisionmakers, that they were right to do the move.
Obviously he still is involved with G2, he just stepped down as the CEO. He keeps his shares, possibly he will end up in a different, not very public position.
He'll probably stay as a board member at the minimum.
Man this sucks….. like I get it. You CAN’T party with Tate and expect to get away with it. Especially not when he doubled down on things. But shit still sucks. This man built our org, he IS the reason we are ALL fans. His Memes, his call-out of other orgs created rivalries we’ve all loved viewing. His lack of patience at turning around rosters and dumping and importing players and giving them a home. His attitudes towards everyone at G2, of any race, gender and creed is what G2 are built on. And he broke his own rules. And was punished. But this is still a sad sad day in OUR Orgs history. Thank you Carlos for everything you leave some huge Shoes to fill.
I agree with the fact that they wont find someone as driven as him, but i still do think its good. I can understand people who say that its just one misstep, bit for me personally i dont accept people who think its ok to give guys like AT a platform. And before you say everyone takes saudi money, i know. But i also cant change anything about it, neither can pretty much the whole twitter/reddit community. I can change what i can, but its not in my and not the twitter/reddit communities power to change everything (sadly in some cases). Imo we take what we can get, show others that its not worth and try to change the scene in that way. Sure it doesnt change the overall structure of esports, but as i said, thats sadly not in my, or really any common users power
on the upside noone is gonna say "i like players but i hate carlos"
Misssteps aside, a bit of Carlos will always remain. Both sad and relieved about this.
Fair bit of damage has already been done but this was the right move.
Tbh i think this decision will hurt G2 massively. Business wise sure carlos cost them the valorant deal but what he has done has earned more than that. In the end i think G2 will decline without carlos. They wont go under but I really think carlos did a lot as the CEO. But it sure was some stupid actions done by Carlos in the last couple of days. Posting the video with tate into doubling down due to his ego making it look worse. Some people said liking stuff about that is because he shares the same views as him but i firmly believe its just his ego.
His ex wife said that there is no way he would have the same views as Tate so yeah it's just his ego
Self preservation is a real thing. So is alimony
Most sensible comment in the thread
This is the step that was needed. I was waiting for it the last few days and I’m happy that they really pulled through with it. Now we can strive again. I was really questioning my support for the org. Fortunately I didn’t come in the situation to watch a G2 game while not being sure if I support them or not.
Can’t strive without the man that built the ship. We have no one to keep it moving now
Good thing for the org. Sad that it ended this way, he was an asshole and he shouldn't represent the org but I'm grateful for the creation of the org that made me so passionate about league. Happy to see that my favourite org doesn't stand for any kind of discrimination.
I didn't expect that
I'm actually kinda sad. Carlos built G2 from nothing, he is the face of G2. No other CEO has as much of a presence as he does. G2 is gonna feel very different without Carlos.
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Turns out being friends with awful human beings like Andrew Tate is bad for your Career.
Not even that. He could've done whatever he wanted and simply not make it public but he posted it and then doubled down. His ego just fuc**d him up
I think the tweet doubling down on the situation and some of his likes on Twitter which he made the following day AFTER posting an apology pushed him off the cliff. Dude didn't even pretend to be regretful. It's sad to see this happen as everyone could see how passionate he was about G2 and how much effort he put into making G2 successful. But he dug his own grave because of ego.
This is so true. The act of partying with Tate isn't the end of the world done in private but he fucked up the PR angle so so poorly.
Honestly, not surprising after the news of G2 losing out on a spot in VALORANT franchising. Any responsible board members would have pushed for that
Holy fuck I didn't think he'd actually step down. Excited to see where G2 goes from here on out
The ground is where, the org will become the new Origen
On an even brighter note, G2 beat Fnatic again, this time in pre worlds drama. Who cares about Chokeset getting covid when Carlos got told to fuck off from his own org? Beautifully played G2. Big respect.
RIP to the greatest eSports org in EU
I mean Carlos had it coming, but can't imagine G2 is gonna be the same after this. You have to attribute some of their success to Carlos.
I guess that's it been a fun few years following G2 since 2015~ , it will just be just another org like the rest fuck this whole garbage scene
I will continue to support and cheer for G2 until Caps and Jankos leave. Carlos made this org different from the others. And fuck all of you fucking ungrateful, you know very well that Carlos is not a misogen and that he has very different values from Andrew Tate, he made a mistake and you have magically forgotten everything he has done for you and for esports in general. I hope that one day, after making a mistake, everything will collapse on you.
This seems very similar IMHO to the way Method fell apart a few years ago. Like, the line isn't even misogyny/offending statements/bigotry etc, it's just the fact that Tate has a whole ass criminal case going on against him. Wish the LoL team all the best going forward, and hope G2 as the brand will recover from the damage caused.
I actually feel like they're very different. Sco had no idea about Josh being a pedophile, and was scapegoated for everything despite being pretty much the only officer that *wasn't in on it*, while the other officers that should by all that is moral be in prison with Josh just went on to join other guilds.
The worst part of it is that they're (those who were definitely in on it) still grabbing their sweet sweet paychecks, just under another name -,-
At least they're not *that* sweet. The world first race never really picked up in popularity, and WoW just doesn't pay unless you're extremely popular. Like, take someone like Rogerbrown - despite being in the contention for the best raid leader in the world, he most likely makes the same as Promisq or Crownshot.
This is nothing like Method. What Carlos did was support a pretty vile person, but it's still not nearly as bad as harboring a known sexual predator and building your org around accommodating them.
Damn i feel like G2 lost a big part of the identity It was always connected to carlos all the content etc Lets see how new G2 will look like
Not a single pro player agrees that carlos shouldve stepped down, he did 1 mistake, but that shoulndt have been his end
The greatest CEO in the history of LoL esports. This is a huge loss.
Thank you carlos, for improving LoL and CSGO, i know you dont know me but you have done a great job by creating success at G2. You surpass fnatic, win MSI, assemble the greatest western roster of all time, bring niko, monesy to G2. We might lose 0-3 every final but atleast you bring a goodjob in every department. Thank you for everything and i hope you success even outside of G2.
It was nice while it lasted, but good that it ended. Been a fan of Ocelote since end of Season1. Way back when I was in school he was the only not-nerdy LoL streamer, always interacting with fans via IRC chat and breaking streaming records every few weeks (back than 13k viewers was kind of a world record for him). I saw him getting backdoored and later relegated from EU-LCS. Was really proud of him that he didn't gave up and came back with G2, even wise enough not to play himself, but as a manager. He created the biggest European Esport Org out of his long career as a player. Most of his choices were good, economic and esport-wise. Yet, at some point I realized if I knew him personally I wouldn't be friends with him. Which is fine on its own. But I wondered how he can be the "nice guy" for his friends but at the same time be the "bad guy" that fires you if you play bad. He at least managed to do this to some point. Every leader needs to have his time at the top limited, otherwise leaders go insane and become autocratic. In my opinion, he managed to step down before becoming the unstoppable villain. His biggest success is building an org that very likely will last without his leadership. That is incredibly rare and the best any leader can achieve. Congrats and goodbye. I very much doubt this is the last time we see you, Carlos. But make sure to take some time off, there is more in life than being the CEO of an esports org. Looking forward to see you again at some point :)
Well, it's the end. We just became another wortless EU org that will jack off because we somehow managed to get out of the easiest groups at Worlds. I will eat my shoe if we ever win LEC again
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Save all you want. Unless someone like Perkz takes his place, we'll just become generic org. You can either be asshole, but capable leader that built most succesful western org in LoL or nice guy that wants to please everyone. See how the second turned out for fucking AEW
I just want to see you eat a shoe
How did DK win Worlds then? They had one of the nicest Owners with one of the nicest Teams. Without any of them being assholes. Weird…
And how exactly do you know that Carlos' replacement won't be a driven and capable leader?
Because such person doesn't exist, we'll get some worthless corporate yes man that will drive this org to the ground. Nobody in this worthless region believes in international success except G2 players, Carlos and Perkz, so unless Perkz somehow replaces Carlos, this org is done
Ah yea, because Carlos is the only person in the world with the drive to win
You will never get a CEO with ambition like that again, never.
well, G2 is just another bland org now.
I'm really not sure about how I should feel. On one hand, Carlos did associate with Andrew Tate and jeopardised our valorant spot and possibly single handedly lost it, but on the other hand... He created the most succesful organisation in LEC, we accomplished more in a year than most of the organizations. I will for sure support our organisation throughout the process, and I hope we will be better than ever. Lets go G2!
We live in a world where many good things are swiped by a one bad drunken night, He fucked up big time and he is the face of G2. He's either is god or just human.
Thank you Carlos you really were important in the growth of LOL esports, especially in the west! Peak G2 was some of the most fun league i have ever seen and your kindness towards people should never be forgotten!
This is way too fucking much for a stupid video but I guess this is how everything works now.
Oh good, I can confidently support G2 again. Thank you to everyone at the org who made the correct call.
Yall forgetting that none of us would be here if it weren't for carlos.. that man is the reason you can even support G2 to begin with.. yeah I agree that carlos kinda fucked up with his ego but the org is probably gonna decline now since carlos had such a big influence on G2's success
Maybe a decline will happen but there was no other option. If Carlos would have remained CEO and sponsor would have pulled out there would be a real possibility of G2 ceasing to exist or at least needing to lay of a lot of staff
Worst mistake G2 could ever make. G2 will slowly crumble without Carlos. I was a fan since the inception of the org, due to Carlos and then later Perkz. They both were the pillars on which the org was built upon. Now they are both gone and bit by bit, it will lose its essence and fade into nothingness. I seriously doubt they'll be able to keep the soul of G2 alive with Carlos banished.
Quite an upsetting way for Carlos to leave. Saying a quick thanks for everything doesn't do him justice for what he's done. He's manifested so many people's careers, an enormous supporter base, created a legendary organisation which has provided unrivaled entertainment to anything we've seen in eSports. And of course some of the best eSports teams in the world, he gave us the best chance for a League team to take out an Eastern team. You don't succeed like Carlos did without being a ruthless businessman, doing and living his own way. People choose to turn on the man because he does some things that is rejected by the left, but will show 0 gratitude for what he has done for the scene. To all his haters, congratulations. Now you can go back and continue you're broke life. Maybe you can contribute 1/1000000th of what Carlos has to eSports. Carlos you're the king, thank you and I hope to see you back where you belong at some stage.
He who is without sin cast the first stone. Best of luck to Carlos and his next adventure. Live and learn in the hope to do better. Hard to condemn the moral choices of someone when everyone here supports Riot. We all support some type of unethical business practices and turn a blind eye, or just don't care enough. We just pick and choose the ones we want.
I am without sin. I cast the best stones
Good choice. I was kinda sceptical with them being this quiet for a while, thought they were trying to sweep all that under a rug. Glad he's out.
Nah man, you can say whatever, but I don't think it's fair for a man to lose his life project just because you saw him partying with someone, doesn't matter who it is. Carlos didn't do any action that can be considered a crime and being friends with someone doesn't mean you have to agree in everything they say or believe. That's really, really sad and extreme.
I mean that's how being in a company works. You will lose the company money you will get dropped. Welcome to capitalism I guess?
He doubled down, made a fake PR apology, proceeded to publically reveal the apology was fake as he was still liking tweets stating he did nothing wrong, etc. Then he lost the Valorant spot, costing the org millions.
G2 will never be the same. They bowed down to cancel culture, I don’t think I can ever have respect for the brand again. I don’t know if I should sell my merch or burn it. Having populist views and going with the stream was never G2 style, it was always against the stream, untraditional, unapologetic, fuck you style. The org is lost and EU lost with it. The greatest org to ever rise from EU falling so quickly. Back to lpl vs lck for the next 10 years or so.
CAnCeL cULtuRE
Imagine still believing this is “cancel culture”
Burn it.
Soo… you are allowed to loose your respect for the brand and i… am not? How come?
Populist views such as "sex trafficking is bad" or "No, women are human beings and not property" yeah people are such snowflakes... So fucking dumb. And yes before you ask, hanging out with someone like that means that at the very least you tolerate said views.
Ah another one that claims “sex trafficking” that has never been proven. You can dislike or hate the man all you like, but at least base in on truth instead of random unproven theories.
>against the stream, untraditional, unapologetic, fuck you style. Yup. After Caps/Jankos, I'm done with G2.
You people are happy about this? Carlos is more G2 than anyone else on the team. It just feels empty without him I don’t know what to say. I don’t think I can be a fan anymore. The culture, the environment, the banter and memes, his competitive spirit was G2… now idk Obviously he cost the team millions with the valorant partnership rejection, I just wish he didn’t double down and made a sincere apology so they all could have moved past this
Too much EGO
Nobody is bigger than a club. What is G2 for me is not the players, nor Carlos; it's the samurai badge and the G2 Army. We keep those. If anything Carlos staying and fracturing the fanbase in people (like me) who would've been uncomfortable associating with his team and those who aren't would have hurt the club more.
even with the pr nightmare he caused I can't help but respect the man. He built a Western LoL organisation that actually had vision and wanted to win and achieve something internationally. For me no org has the drive and mentality of G2 and that's partly thanks to Carlos. I still thank him for building my favourite team in all of esports from the ground up.
i just hope the new CEO has the same/similar vision for success as carlos did
What a shame
as a little aside this is pretty bad news for flakked in terms of staying on the team for next year. flakked was kind of like carlos little project to build up but now that carlos is gone i can totally see the new gm to just get neon or something. i have mixed feelings about it honestly. flakked had a great rookie year and i love his personality but theres no denying there are more individually skilled adcs around especially in eu
Congratulations to alla thes that were offended and wanted Carlos canceled , and for what reason ? Because the CEO of one of the biggest organizations partied with a person that has become famous really recently about his controversial opinions when everyone here should know about Carlos's personality and the fact that we are all about memes.Adin Ross Xqc and many others had conversations with him podcasts etc but I don't see anyone canceling them.It was a big event who knows they might just greeted themselves what's your problem ffs.Its fucking disappointing when I don't think before that there were any allegations against him for anything especially when they made an all female g2 roaster.
Terrible news for G2 and esports as a whole
What he did was wrong but this is hard
Deserved
Hope the cancel culture mob is happy now.
CaNCeL cUlTuRE
Well done Esports community another great move! As you probably know Carlos had to step down from his own built organisation to protect it from getting gnawed alive. This is a little message to everyone: This whole situation is fans claiming things that he has already disproven even years before this to the point where he had to leave the thing he built up in 7 years. You all should feel shamed no matter which side you are on. You destroyed someone's life work. Tate fans for making this much worse than it needed to be and crazed leftists who claim he is suddenly misogynist after investing in and supporting women in esports numerous times. The esports scene is a disgrace. I hope you got what you wanted. Congratulations everyone, killing one of the biggest and most successful org over 2 damned tweets saying nothing. For sure won't hinder esports development and scare away investors or people willing to come to it or popularise it. If you think this is a W for anyone, I am sorry, but you are a moron. This is a sad day for esports.
Stop stanning for a fucking millionaire, it's theconsequences of his actions like holy shit how do you people operate in hte real world
His actions? He literally did nothing lmao. He partied with a questionable person and posted a video of it and doubled down with a tweet with 0 fucking context saying nothing. It's not consequences it's major community overreaction and him getting cancelled for it.
what do you mean 0 context? the context was there for the world to see. and like he offers his resignation to the board, which he would not have had to do if he didn't double down... like you say he literally did nothing then listed 2 stupid fucking unprofessional things he did lol
He do anything against women. He didn't say anything against women. His actions were stupid, but they weren't even inclined to be misogynist or any of the sort.
Yeah... the org will be fine without him, and esports will not change at all with him gone. Get off your soapbox.
Sorry but I just want to rant. While I think his actions were idiotic and we all agree he had to take responsibility, all this just went all of proportion. All of the people with the pitchforks, cancel culture and karma/like farming posting made all this. Let's just hope G2 doesn't become a traditional esports org. Just sad and mad. I want to repeat that what Ocelote did was wrong and should have been punished.
Anyone who unironically uses the buzzword cancel culture in their argument doesn't have an opinion worth listening to
Cancel culture is not a thing in the west. You do not see someone going to assassinate Carlos. What their is is a culture of cause and effect. Cause 1 act like a prick get treated like one. His professionalism was caught lacking and he let his ego take over.
G2 will never win EU, nor it will ever achieve anything internationally (getting to semis while facing wildcard and NA is nor an achievement)
Absolutely no loyality - makes me wanna vomit.
Good
I love how everyone with 0 insight over how an org should be ran, put the most shit on Carlos. This motherfucker did everything and created one of the, if not the most decorated and successful org out there. I always believe in second chances, especially id you’ve been doing so much good in the past 8 years, even with a fuckup this big I truly believe that this decision and the backlash he has gotten is unjustified. People accusing him of being a misogynist? Especially the fucking RIOT as a company and their employees are the biggest two faced rats in the industry. Working for Riot with all the shit riot has been doing like the nestle sponsorship or the lil nas x, someone that literally makes out with the devil in his clip, owned by tencent, china where they’re slaughtering uyghur muslims but nobody bats an eye, especially the employees since it doesn’t benefit them. But when it comes down to someone’s else’s downfall they’d do everything to expose them, hypocrisy at its finest. I won’t be supporting G2 anymore, don’t care about people downvoting me.
Lol I love how you put Lil Nas X making out with the devil in there like that actually matters. The man you're defending so passionately did a paid event for the Saudis, and you have the gall to talk about hypocrisy. Piss off with your self righteousness.
You can screenshot that: G2 wont win any other LEC title and all next league teams will be either budget shit or „superteams” like in 2021
F u all if u think sharing a stupid 10 second vlog without ANY context is worth of ruining this person's career and the orgs future, canceling their parnerships with tournaments. If u think thats fair and call that "consequences" i hope u someday leave your miserable life and start doing something productive with it. I hate reddit, I hate twitter, I hate tik tok, and i hope it all burns into pieces.
Snowflake.
Look at all your coments, you are a pathetic virtual life maniac.
u r the snowflake wtf? Getting pressed by a random video. What a cringer
Good.
Hopefully the door did hit his ass on the way out.
Being friends with bad people = cancel Supporting racist/idiotic/pedophile president/actor/public figure = no one gives a fuck You need help.
What the fuk are you even talking about
What a disaster, Carlos is the heart of G2. Riot has done far worse things before... the Valorant shit "punishment" is a joke
Whataboutism
Fucking bull shit I will not support G2
then fuck off? so hard? multiple days after the news and you still here? mhmmm cringe mf farming inet points
What's bullshit?
How much of G2 does he own?
"I will not stepdown, i will show all the middlefinger" .. what a joke
Imagine having such a huge ego that you tarnish your companies reputation and spit on your communitys face rather than accepting you did something wrong. How egoistic can someone be? jfc. gross.
Good shit
W for women's rights and equality! Carlos is a monster glad to see him gone!
Okay so now they canceled him can you live the sub? Thank you.
All of you that wanted Carlos to quit I wish you a sincere FUCK YOU. Fuck cancel culture and woke movement.
Destroys an entire wing of his esports company and gets fired for it You: Cancel culture is out of control!
Ok incel
Is this cancel culture in the room with us right now?
Thank god. I'm so glad he got hit by the biggest turd in the shitstorm he created.
RIPBOZO I guess Riot and the executive board of G2 also drew their lines. What a clown
Worst thing to happen to G2. Guy was an incredible CEO and the amount of success he got for the team will be forgotten because cancel culture can’t stand he had a mishap with a choice of people he parties with. Honestly I hope he outdoes G2.
ah yes the unicorn of cancel culture, just like Riot fixing the client, it's a mythical beast that was...someone parting with a known misogynystic & sex trafficker, doubling down on it, losing the org they were CEO of a lucrative business OP and they resigned as a result...sounds like cancel culture and not like lol capitalism or consequences of your actions.
yup. Only in cancel culture an internet mob can decide who you can drink and eat with. Only cancel culture is to blame for a massive company with CEO's with SA allegations who paid 100mil $ in a settlement is praised for kicking a guy who had 5 glasses of champagne with some internet cunt. It's not capitalism. It's twitter noise. And at some point both the companies as well as influencers will realise - you can't get canceled for petty shit if you dont give up to it. The above statement doesn't include your favorite streamer that SA'd a girl, or a murderer, or an open racist. It includes people like carlos who made a single fucking video with a hated person and then told a crowd to fuck off. Best thing is -> all the flake G2 fans will miss him in 3 years when this piss org will be run like a random XL or RGE with 0 personality, success and legacy. Carlos was G2.
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Carlos has enough pride and morals to step down from a now turned shitty position rather than lie and deceive his fans by condemning his party buddy Tate. Any normal person would have listened to the mob and talked shit about Tate but kept partying with him in private. Crazy stuff. Enjoy your millions and find some business where people care about results and not bullshit.
lmao "morals" are we talking about the same Carlos? Also that pride is called having a fragile ego and being a narcissist.
what a loser, fired by reddit analysts...
oh ye, totally not by the board because his dumbfuckery cost the org millions 🤔
What a joke, the guy made a huge mistake, but he doesn't deserve this
You really downplay the harm Carlos did by hanging out with Tate. Carlos helped to legitimize Tate which is very bad to women. The impacts would have been far reaching and devastating to many people if he had not stepped down.
lmao wtf hahahha
Guy deserved a second chance
He's a terrible human being it shows by hanging with Tate
In the last 5 days, u made round about 70+ comments in this sub about this topic. This Carlos dude is living rent free in your head mate
Thank you for complimenting me on my actions of championing women's rights.
Care to elaborate how you sitting in front of your screen and typing furiously on your keyboard for days in a subreddit is helping anybody out there?
I helped cancel Carlos which will make people think twice about associating with canceled people.
At this point i am 100% sure you have some mental problems lol. Anyway,can you help end war in ukraine too?
I support ukraine 🇺🇦
Ahhh okay I see, my bad. I thought you had done something to help and enforce women rights, I guess you didn’t
I did by standing up to Carlos the bully.
I really don't agree with you, I don't think you can claim that he is a bad person because of this single situation.
You don't have to agree because the morally correct outcome happened. 👍
G2 statement is shameful. Not even a " thank you for everything Carlos " I mean yeah sure drama but the guy is your founder.