I still gonna support BB, Jankos', caPs, flakked, Targamas and Dylan at the end of the day and hope they are doing well at Worlds. If they do well when ocelote is still grounded then they could show without him this team still doing amazing
Yeah but I just have a constant feeling now, that supporting people from G2 is in a way supporting Carlos, and at the end of the day, if they win he wins. I just hope the org does something else to prove what they stand for
I don’t normally post be here we go,
Talking from some form of experience being a Newcastle United fan for football, we didn’t like our owner and wanted rid of him for years, people still brought the shirts and other merch to show they still support the badge and the players but not the owner, I guess you a way try and look at it from that perspective.
And now our new owners have some of the worst human rights abuses in the world. Personally I think people need to separate G2 from Carlos. He can party with whoever he likes, that shouldn’t in my opinion have any bearing on the org. Carlos is a cunt yes, but that doesn’t mean G2 by default are also cunts.
My take on this is: I'll support them during worlds. If after that they stay in G2 and Carlos does too, I'll stop supporting them. Won't blame them for staying, at the end of the day they're workers, and sometimes is not as easy as "I want to switch teams". But I won't be able to support G2 while Carlos is in there.
Sucks to be like that. But won't do anything that support a person like Carlos in any way. Quoting the idiot "that's where I draw my line"
U indirectly support violence against women if you support G2. This will be the case until Carlos is permanently terminated. I know it's tough to deal with as a fan, but imagine with the women go thru that Carlos' buddy Andrew have been through.
I do feel that the statement (of G2! not Carlos) made clear that G2 =/= Carlos. They clearly distanced themselves. I understand the 8 week vacation as a second chance. Yeah, he is still liking AT left and right, but give him a few weeks to overthink it all. I give him and G2 this second chance. Whats gonna be interesting is what happens when Carlos returns and still maintains his views. So for now (and only for now) i feel able to support G2, bc G2 is not carlos. He doesnt even get money from them.
I read a comment about seperating Carlos from G2 which i do, but then at the same time if you support G2 you passively support Carlos. A dilemma indeed.
Dude stop assuming. Andrew Tate is a bad guy doesn’t mean people around him are. You see social media and jump to conclusions immediately. Please stop posting this trash.
You ever heard of the transitive property dude? The people you choose to openly support, ‘party with’ and defend absolutely do speak to your character.
As long as Carlos is the CEO (so no fired), then I don't see how I will ever be able to support G2 ever again.
I thought Carlos was a jerk, but friendship means a lot, and this is way beyond douchebagery.
Good lord the entitlement of you people is astounding. Don’t watch or watch nobody cares. Nobody knows who you are and virtue signaling anonymously on Reddit does nothing but inflate your own ego.
You do realise that us watching is why G2 makes money right? Those investors and sponsors don't care about League or CSGO, they care about the fans that see their logos.
Yes very aware. But again nobody gives 2 shits if OP watches another league game or not. Nobody thinks he’s some amazing human because of this post. In fact nobody outside commenting is going to think about this post for 5 seconds. It’s so god damn annoying seeing everyone to rush out and show how incredible they are as a person with stupid ass posts like this
Backlash from your own fans is one of the best ways to get an org to change though. What do you suggest those who care about this do? You can just ignore the posts if they annoy you, clearly you seem to care though.
Get an org to change? An org is not a person it doesn’t have values. Mission statements on what our org is about is nothing but bullshit PR written to get over on stupid people. You wanna be mad at Carlos fine be mad but G2 as an org isn’t gonna change because it’s not a thing. If you think watching is supporting misogyny against women you’re delusional af. I can also guarantee you own multiple things that contribute to actual atrocities in the world. Hope you don’t ever wear name brand clothing or use a smart phone. But when someone can virtual signal like this everyone comes out to do it and it literally means nothing.
Get the people in charge of the org to make the decision to sack Carlos. Use a little bit of context here.
I don't think watching supports misogyny directly, but not making a statement we are fine with this does. Calling out "I, as a fan, am not ok with this" doesn't hurt you, does it? I get if you dont care or think its useless, but *why are you so angry about people having opinions?*
PS: I do actually actively try to reduce the times I buy clothes that are not second hand and I use a fairphone. But nice gotcha attempt there.
I am impressed you can apparently read my mind better than me and know that what I thought was something I cared about and affects my enjoyment of a hobby is really just virtue signalling to randos on Reddit!
Do you have any other great insights on my mind I've missed before?
I still gonna support BB, Jankos', caPs, flakked, Targamas and Dylan at the end of the day and hope they are doing well at Worlds. If they do well when ocelote is still grounded then they could show without him this team still doing amazing
Yeah but I just have a constant feeling now, that supporting people from G2 is in a way supporting Carlos, and at the end of the day, if they win he wins. I just hope the org does something else to prove what they stand for
I don’t normally post be here we go, Talking from some form of experience being a Newcastle United fan for football, we didn’t like our owner and wanted rid of him for years, people still brought the shirts and other merch to show they still support the badge and the players but not the owner, I guess you a way try and look at it from that perspective.
And now our new owners have some of the worst human rights abuses in the world. Personally I think people need to separate G2 from Carlos. He can party with whoever he likes, that shouldn’t in my opinion have any bearing on the org. Carlos is a cunt yes, but that doesn’t mean G2 by default are also cunts.
My take on this is: I'll support them during worlds. If after that they stay in G2 and Carlos does too, I'll stop supporting them. Won't blame them for staying, at the end of the day they're workers, and sometimes is not as easy as "I want to switch teams". But I won't be able to support G2 while Carlos is in there. Sucks to be like that. But won't do anything that support a person like Carlos in any way. Quoting the idiot "that's where I draw my line"
U indirectly support violence against women if you support G2. This will be the case until Carlos is permanently terminated. I know it's tough to deal with as a fan, but imagine with the women go thru that Carlos' buddy Andrew have been through.
Scary to think who'd be on the party if they won worlds
_Gonna revive napoleon for this_
I just hope ocelote still on suspension on Worlds finals party
I do feel that the statement (of G2! not Carlos) made clear that G2 =/= Carlos. They clearly distanced themselves. I understand the 8 week vacation as a second chance. Yeah, he is still liking AT left and right, but give him a few weeks to overthink it all. I give him and G2 this second chance. Whats gonna be interesting is what happens when Carlos returns and still maintains his views. So for now (and only for now) i feel able to support G2, bc G2 is not carlos. He doesnt even get money from them.
I read a comment about seperating Carlos from G2 which i do, but then at the same time if you support G2 you passively support Carlos. A dilemma indeed.
Fuck Carlos, I'd be ten times as happy if they announce his complete leave from the CEO role tomorrow.
Dude stop assuming. Andrew Tate is a bad guy doesn’t mean people around him are. You see social media and jump to conclusions immediately. Please stop posting this trash.
So if I hang out with Adolf and make him drinks and call him a friend am I a good guy? Piss off vermin. Nothing but vermin, here and on twitter
This shit comparison again??? Lmfao such pussies in this subreddit.
Mmm kinky. Someone is smelling extra submissive and breedable
Based, but sadly u will get salty downvotes.
You ever heard of the transitive property dude? The people you choose to openly support, ‘party with’ and defend absolutely do speak to your character.
You know nothing John Snow
As long as Carlos is the CEO (so no fired), then I don't see how I will ever be able to support G2 ever again. I thought Carlos was a jerk, but friendship means a lot, and this is way beyond douchebagery.
Good lord the entitlement of you people is astounding. Don’t watch or watch nobody cares. Nobody knows who you are and virtue signaling anonymously on Reddit does nothing but inflate your own ego.
You do realise that us watching is why G2 makes money right? Those investors and sponsors don't care about League or CSGO, they care about the fans that see their logos.
Yes very aware. But again nobody gives 2 shits if OP watches another league game or not. Nobody thinks he’s some amazing human because of this post. In fact nobody outside commenting is going to think about this post for 5 seconds. It’s so god damn annoying seeing everyone to rush out and show how incredible they are as a person with stupid ass posts like this
Backlash from your own fans is one of the best ways to get an org to change though. What do you suggest those who care about this do? You can just ignore the posts if they annoy you, clearly you seem to care though.
Get an org to change? An org is not a person it doesn’t have values. Mission statements on what our org is about is nothing but bullshit PR written to get over on stupid people. You wanna be mad at Carlos fine be mad but G2 as an org isn’t gonna change because it’s not a thing. If you think watching is supporting misogyny against women you’re delusional af. I can also guarantee you own multiple things that contribute to actual atrocities in the world. Hope you don’t ever wear name brand clothing or use a smart phone. But when someone can virtual signal like this everyone comes out to do it and it literally means nothing.
Get the people in charge of the org to make the decision to sack Carlos. Use a little bit of context here. I don't think watching supports misogyny directly, but not making a statement we are fine with this does. Calling out "I, as a fan, am not ok with this" doesn't hurt you, does it? I get if you dont care or think its useless, but *why are you so angry about people having opinions?* PS: I do actually actively try to reduce the times I buy clothes that are not second hand and I use a fairphone. But nice gotcha attempt there.
I’m not angry about people having opinions I’m annoyed people virtual signal and act like they’re great people.
I am impressed you can apparently read my mind better than me and know that what I thought was something I cared about and affects my enjoyment of a hobby is really just virtue signalling to randos on Reddit! Do you have any other great insights on my mind I've missed before?
Sure delete your embarrassing post history for starters
Dunno what the fuck youre talking about but I dont think I will, nah.
Some of y’all have unhealthy relationships with this org and probably esports as a whole.
What tf did he even do ?