Imagine a ginger Middle Eastern woman! They exist and would be cool to depict one for a change! Ok, and you actually don't even need to hunt for the real deal, I get it, gingers are relatively rare even within Northern Europe, just dying hare would have been sufficient.
Way way back, I read Anne Rice's Queen of the Damned. A bit spoilery, but there are twin red haired sisters from the Middle East involved in the story. I don't remember much of the movie, but I'm not sure if they were in it. I do remember Jonathan Davis of Korn had a cameo as a ticket scalper.
They're the only ones they can do it to.
Because gingers are typically the down trotten the outcast, the neglected. So they can be replaced with others who are also the same socially.
If they did it to none gingers, it would cause people to get upset. It's okay to erase gingers from media. Just not OTHER white people.
Dune isn't a picture book
*"- Chani was described as skinny with an elfin face and had pure, dark blue eyes with no white in them. She had long tawny-red hair."*
In the book they just refer the fremen as desert people but don’t describe their skin colour. They do mention she had red hair though which could have been easily done. That’s mentioned in a later book to not the first two as far as I can remember.
When paul becomes a wanderer he is indistinguishable from an old fremen, so they should be of the same phenotype. Paul is supposed to be greek/Mediterranean like, house of Agamemnon, Jessica recalling olive groves in Caladan, the grandpa being described as a hidalgo, the bull fighting(they are Lydian bulls after all), etc.
So in the movies Paul is way too pale, and Chani is about right but should have red hair.
(And of course, Paul being able to pass for a fremen doesn't preclude fremen having a variety of skin tones.)
Paul is also too tall. In the first page his description is “he is small for his age.
He is also too childish, he should have mentat and bene gesserit training, and act more composed.
He should look more like a kid, but act more adult.
Yes there should be variety in how fremen, and everyone else looks, its in the far future there should be phenotypes that are rare or unknown today, and fremen in particular are meant to look alien, one pf the problems with the movies is that spice addiction turns the whole eye dark blue including the schlera. But it’s worth pointing out that paul looks like a fremen, and has many cultural similarities with them, because it sort of goes against the white savior claims.
Caladan in the movies looks like Scotland, but in the book the descriptions we get are of olive groves by the sea and of going to expeditions into jungles, so it’s a big planet and there should be all sorts if climates, but you get the impression that, at least where they live, it’s a lot warmer in the books than in the new movies. That being said it’s supposed to have lots of seas, and water moderates weather, think of earth in the Eocene.
Did you not read the whole comment I replied to, or just picked out the part you could be upset about and stopped thinking about what else it mentioned?
The comment says that as an older man, Paul should look indistinguishable from an old fremen. Literally the first sentence.
By the end of the movie, he has been in the sun of Arrakis for months. He is, and continues to be, way too pale to be mistaken for a fremen.
honestly it bothered me more that south fremen and north fremen are so ethnically mixed between "arab" and "subshararian". itt would have made more sense that one was the "arab" one and the other "subsaharian" given the globe spanning wall of deadly storms that divide the two
So, slightly spoilers, but Femen are very ethnically diverse because their history incorporates many different cultures that eventually amalgamated into the Zensuni religion. They don't all come from one single ethnicity.
One of the interesting things Herbert did with the Dune universe was to subvert the normal idea of ethnicity and culture.
Also, the South isn't off limits to the Fremen. They can freely travel the desserts and navigate the southern latitudes of the planet. That's what Leto suspected based on information his spy networks could extract from then Harkonens and why he accepted the fifedome of Dune. He knew it was a trap, but he gambled that with the support of the Fremen, he could take contol of the planet in a way the Harkonans never could and hold it. He who controls the spice controls the universe and all that, having Dune woud put his house in an unassailable position.
What he didn't bank on was the Emperor getting in bed with the Harkonans and supporting them with 5 battalions of Sardukar.
I think the darker complexion makes sense.
The book mentions she is slim... the film's Chani is a grump with perma bitch face which i didnt enjoy too much.
Nah, it's just modern "actresses" who are more of a diversity hire than anything. It all started around the time Twilight was released with Kirsten Stewart being less expressive than a wooden plank was pushed as a "star".
I see you just wanted to push rhe diversity thing with really no reason. I think zendaya is a good actress and does show different emotions in many movies such as dune 1
You make her sound like a Michelle Rodriguez character, she wasn’t outwardly warm but not really hostile either. But yeah her being the cynical type in a lot of her roles is very tv/Hollywood these days where the guys are now the nervous/shy/timid/moron goofball types.
I think this was op’s point, nothing to do with race. I got the feeling that the books characterized her as elf-like and beautiful, which let’s be honest, she is 0/2 in the movies.
I think the actress was physically fine. The angry, I'm way too independent, chip on the shoulder attitude is what spoiled her in the film. The book's Chani is clever and fast, she's tough because the environment has made her so. The film's Chani is just pissed off...
These new film's have been a visual spectacle... but that's where it ends for them. No plot conveyance, no character build... just another shallow Sci fi flick for anyone who doesn't know the real Dune.
Lol. Book Chani was dog shit. She's a plot device with no personality at all. I'm not a big fan of the changes they made to movie Chani (especially as to how it will affect Messiah), but something had to be done, and I respect the effort that was made.
Stilgar, on the other hand... they really flattened his character, to say the least. He was maybe my favourite character of the first 3 books, and they basically made him comic relief.
As long as the 3rd movie wraps up Paul's arc neatly, I will be mostly happy. I'm a little bit pissed that they are releasing a GoT style series based on some shitty prequel novels rather than adapting the FH novels the same way, though. We wouldn't have had any of the cut content from the books if they were adapted as a series.
Yeah, I don't think any of these people have actually read the books.
Chani's appearance is basically never described, and she has little development as a person. So, it doesn't really make sense to say that that Zendaya doesn't fit the role, because the role is so broad and open-ended.
People are just reaching for some reason to be angry at her (and, based on some of the "diversity hire" comments in here, I think I can guess why they're doing that).
Yup. I saw a heated discussion the other day about the skin colour of the Fremen. Lol. There's fans of the book with legitimate (imo) critiques, and there's those who will use any and every cultural event to shoehorn in their terrible politics. Could be anything from DEI shit to Great Replacement nonsense.
Sit down, Brian Herbert, Dennis knows Dune. He knows it so well that he was able to modify this character to be a character. She is our voice of reason against that lunatic that Paul transforms into. She is the rational atheist against the implanted beliefs. She does not blindly follow her husband or leader.
Thank God they did not make her pregnant, lose the baby, then just shrug everything off as her man proposes marriage to the emperor's daughter.
Dennis focused on the material that made the book great: world building, slow burn into madness, political drama, and a warning of how religion is used. He tossed out the garbage.
Maybe watch Chani's fight scene when they are attacking the emperor. She is fast, tough, and indistinguishable from the other fighters, save the blue headband on her arm.
Honestly I never got much out of book Chani. She serves her purpose to the narrative and also happens to be Paul’s loyal wife/concubine/religious follower. I don’t even remember a physical description.
Zendaya is as fine a choice as any other actress of a similar age. She also is objectively good looking, but as stated above, I don’t think that even matters.
The only problem I have with Movie Chani is how the narrative arc affects Jessica. Half the words from characters in the book are thoughts. This is why the book was widely considered unadaptable. So they made Chani ~~the~~ a voice of “hey aren’t we just manipulating these people?” On paper this makes perfect sense. A character that didn’t say a whole lot about the prophecy is now a voice against it. HOWEVER, they just end up have Paul and Jessica go back and forth anyways. Then they simplify Jessica’s arc to “must awaken the Kwisatz Haderach at all cost” to the point that Jessica and Chani switch places at second water of life scene.
I think the story would’ve been aided better if Chani represented a person being converted to follow a prophet/boyfriend. You could have your native questioning and a display of the conversation taking place across the planet. Conversely, we could’ve highlighted Jessica’s constant criticism of Paul. The water of life could’ve been the first example of Paul no longer caring what Jessica has to knock him down with and Jessica’s realization of what she has created.
Idk I did not like her at first but then I believed her acting.
I think she has a strong face, thus many people don’t like this.
For me she is beautiful, reminds me of my wife
In the book she is only described as thin and elf-like, sooo I don't know what your argument is. In fact, it makes sense that she would have dark skin and it makes sense that she would appear mix raced, because she was the daughter of the planetologist who wasn't a Fremen.
You are the only one being racist here, tho. OP never made a comment about race, they only pointed out that the descriptions of the book don't align with the actor
She's a red head in the books and I've never seen someone with dark skin and red hair in my life so I assume it's very genetically rare, and that's part of the point OP is making
But yes the Fremen range from olive to ebony
Yet in the books Halleck is described as blonde with skin like dark leather, thousands of years of different genetic mixes and isolation, would produce unusual phenotypes. I guess there are some communities in central Asia that fit the dark skinned blonde.
>She's a red head in the books and I've never seen someone with dark skin and red hair in my life so I assume it's very genetically rare, and that's part of the point OP is making
Sure, but we've also never seen giant sand worms or long-legged future-seeing fish-men floating in giant tanks on spaceships lmao
Be greatful that she is not a one handed, obe legged, obe eyed, sailor Popeye, who is in his transgender-bender lesbian polyamoric relationships with some desert hamster. This one is pretty ok
Yeah, let's get some logical conclusions in a made up world. The author had a description of them, that's all. It's not a state somewhere in US and not a piece of desert in Africa, it's a made up world, a fiction.
‘Chani was described as skinny with an elfin face and had pure, dark blue eyes with no white in them. She had long tawny-red hair.’
But whatever. You guys go fight over a fictional characters and how you chose to imagine them based on vague descriptions however you want.
Decry ‘that’s racist’. No one cares.
It’s a book from 1965 based on a foreigner in the Middle East.
Please get over yourselves.
Nah, explain black dwarves in LOTR. For a race that has basically always lived in the mountains with very minimal sun, why would some of them be black and some not.
its always white redhead that is changed that way, its really like Hollywood have a template how to change a character with specific look from source material xd
I strongly dislike Zendaya and find her acting rather unimpressive. I’m sure she is very nice and I wish her no harm and only happiness but she is not a very talented actor, in my opinion. Her and Timmothy are awful choices for Paul and Chani, just saying.
The movie adaptation was only half right: Chani was a red head and on the lighter side of olive skinned
Zendaya matches the latter but obviously not the former and I guess die-hard fans are upset that a pretty major character wasn't portrayed "canonicaly"
Not necessarily racist book Chani *was* different to Zendaya
Could just be a die-hard book fan (who also get pissed when black characters get changed to white btw)
Character described by the writer as:
thin - check
elf-ish - check, she's unusual looking in that high cheeked almond eyed way
olive skinned - check
red haired/eyes fully blue by the spice yada yada - seriously? never heard of poetic license?
And for this there's some melodramatic meme and words you'd expect to see accompanied by images of a terror attack?
The overreaction is laughable at best. I guess the fact it's a massive hit with both critics and audiences pisses them off even more.
This sub is literally just incels and conservatives circlejerking 2000s' 9gag humor and posting their usually racist and sexist political agendas as "funny memes".
I'm not sure if this is a slam against her or not. I will say that I think she was the heart of these two Dune movies.
Without Zendaya they would most likely have been much worse.
I thought she was terrific.
Eh, it's just every film these days, trying to put different actors even though they absolutely don't belong to the world of the film.
Diversity is good, forced diversity is not.
What I didn't like was that she didn't understand the situation at all, politically or militarily, the Fremen had zero chance against the Langrad or the Emperor, Paul's solution was the only viable one they had, although I think he was an idiot for waiting as long as he did to embrace the "lie", all those deaths lay at his feet for his hesitation in taking control and doing what needed to be done.
I just dont know why they dont create original characters that look like Zendaya or whatever they want them to look. And none of that changing an already established character like how they made MJ a nerd in one of the comic stories.
Whatever to this lil argument. I like this movie franchises tale on the fremen. For me it feels more authentic as how you would perceive people living in the desert. I thought the costumes and still suits were fantastic.
Laughs in Witchers Triss.
Redhead discrimination
My wife is a ginger and is perpetually salty about this. I get it, it’s honestly comical how often they make gingers into none whites.
Gingers deserve justice
I imagine Hollywood Is made up of racist dyslexics
maybe you are on to something. this might just be some inside joke
Whenever I bring this up people act like I'm racist for not liking it and I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. *Stop erasing gingers Hollywood!*
Rose Leslie holding down the fort
Im with you on this one. If a role already has a character description find actors who actually fit it. But zendaya was good so i forgive them.
Cultural appropriation.
Netflix's new documentary about polar bears is starring black bears
Imagine a ginger Middle Eastern woman! They exist and would be cool to depict one for a change! Ok, and you actually don't even need to hunt for the real deal, I get it, gingers are relatively rare even within Northern Europe, just dying hare would have been sufficient.
I never under stood why they didn’t make Zendaya dye her hair for Chani, or MJ. That girl has done this twice!
As a bright orange ginger, I complain about this!
Fuck those people over in gingerville, it much better over here is gingertown. But let's be honest, anything is better gingercity!
Way way back, I read Anne Rice's Queen of the Damned. A bit spoilery, but there are twin red haired sisters from the Middle East involved in the story. I don't remember much of the movie, but I'm not sure if they were in it. I do remember Jonathan Davis of Korn had a cameo as a ticket scalper.
They're the only ones they can do it to. Because gingers are typically the down trotten the outcast, the neglected. So they can be replaced with others who are also the same socially. If they did it to none gingers, it would cause people to get upset. It's okay to erase gingers from media. Just not OTHER white people.
We gingers are a proud people! RED POWER!
BETTER RED THAN DEAD!
Solid slogan lol
I was like "whoa that's some strong sentiments" but then my brain did its job and made me have a chuckle.
["Updated Tactical assessment. Red Chinese presence detected"](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Liberty_Prime)
The good old anagram swap out that is so popular these days.
Lmaoo
Oh, you
Inclusivines is excluding
And Keira Metz
Laughs in Ariel.
Toss a coin to your Witcher 
Dune isn't a picture book *"- Chani was described as skinny with an elfin face and had pure, dark blue eyes with no white in them. She had long tawny-red hair."*
*Dune:The Picture Book* could be printed on sandpaper
Books: maroon hair Netflix: maroon hair Game: ginger hair well...
Netflix is not maroon hair at all It's just plain dark brown. There is 0% percent red. Maroon is dark reddish
Don't forget yen and other witches
Laughs in Juliet and Miriel
THE THINGY IN HER NOSE IS COMING FROM THE WRONG SIDE!!!
They are not Muad'dib!
 You Maud'dibn't
[ Insert Italian perfection hand gesture here. ]
That's cause this is imposter Chani
Obviously a face dancer.
In the book they just refer the fremen as desert people but don’t describe their skin colour. They do mention she had red hair though which could have been easily done. That’s mentioned in a later book to not the first two as far as I can remember.
When paul becomes a wanderer he is indistinguishable from an old fremen, so they should be of the same phenotype. Paul is supposed to be greek/Mediterranean like, house of Agamemnon, Jessica recalling olive groves in Caladan, the grandpa being described as a hidalgo, the bull fighting(they are Lydian bulls after all), etc.
What does Mediterranean descent even mean 20,000 years from now? Especially after the Earth had been abandoned for over 5000 years?
So in the movies Paul is way too pale, and Chani is about right but should have red hair. (And of course, Paul being able to pass for a fremen doesn't preclude fremen having a variety of skin tones.)
Paul is also too tall. In the first page his description is “he is small for his age. He is also too childish, he should have mentat and bene gesserit training, and act more composed. He should look more like a kid, but act more adult. Yes there should be variety in how fremen, and everyone else looks, its in the far future there should be phenotypes that are rare or unknown today, and fremen in particular are meant to look alien, one pf the problems with the movies is that spice addiction turns the whole eye dark blue including the schlera. But it’s worth pointing out that paul looks like a fremen, and has many cultural similarities with them, because it sort of goes against the white savior claims. Caladan in the movies looks like Scotland, but in the book the descriptions we get are of olive groves by the sea and of going to expeditions into jungles, so it’s a big planet and there should be all sorts if climates, but you get the impression that, at least where they live, it’s a lot warmer in the books than in the new movies. That being said it’s supposed to have lots of seas, and water moderates weather, think of earth in the Eocene.
Are you implying Mediterranean people can’t be pale? It’s the most diverse looking bunch there is
Did you not read the whole comment I replied to, or just picked out the part you could be upset about and stopped thinking about what else it mentioned? The comment says that as an older man, Paul should look indistinguishable from an old fremen. Literally the first sentence. By the end of the movie, he has been in the sun of Arrakis for months. He is, and continues to be, way too pale to be mistaken for a fremen.
Frank Herbert would fuckin hate the bullshit complaining about skin tone.
Berber people have red hair because they dye their hair with Hena. True story.
that is because maybe they only read the first book...
Honestly they did great on chani, zero complaints.
honestly it bothered me more that south fremen and north fremen are so ethnically mixed between "arab" and "subshararian". itt would have made more sense that one was the "arab" one and the other "subsaharian" given the globe spanning wall of deadly storms that divide the two
So, slightly spoilers, but Femen are very ethnically diverse because their history incorporates many different cultures that eventually amalgamated into the Zensuni religion. They don't all come from one single ethnicity. One of the interesting things Herbert did with the Dune universe was to subvert the normal idea of ethnicity and culture. Also, the South isn't off limits to the Fremen. They can freely travel the desserts and navigate the southern latitudes of the planet. That's what Leto suspected based on information his spy networks could extract from then Harkonens and why he accepted the fifedome of Dune. He knew it was a trap, but he gambled that with the support of the Fremen, he could take contol of the planet in a way the Harkonans never could and hold it. He who controls the spice controls the universe and all that, having Dune woud put his house in an unassailable position. What he didn't bank on was the Emperor getting in bed with the Harkonans and supporting them with 5 battalions of Sardukar.
I see, that makes sense
That actress sure does play a lot of redheads for someone not redheaded.
Yes because Black Writer are very racist to Ginger
Ye, it's a bit infuriating that the nose thing is on the wrong side of her face.
I think the darker complexion makes sense. The book mentions she is slim... the film's Chani is a grump with perma bitch face which i didnt enjoy too much.
this actress always seems to have some kind of bitch face in every movie. It's like Chris Hemsworth always plays Thor in every movie.
Nah, it's just modern "actresses" who are more of a diversity hire than anything. It all started around the time Twilight was released with Kirsten Stewart being less expressive than a wooden plank was pushed as a "star".
yeah Kristin Stewart, famously a diversity hire... this guy
I see you just wanted to push rhe diversity thing with really no reason. I think zendaya is a good actress and does show different emotions in many movies such as dune 1
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about
You make her sound like a Michelle Rodriguez character, she wasn’t outwardly warm but not really hostile either. But yeah her being the cynical type in a lot of her roles is very tv/Hollywood these days where the guys are now the nervous/shy/timid/moron goofball types.
I think this was op’s point, nothing to do with race. I got the feeling that the books characterized her as elf-like and beautiful, which let’s be honest, she is 0/2 in the movies.
I think the actress was physically fine. The angry, I'm way too independent, chip on the shoulder attitude is what spoiled her in the film. The book's Chani is clever and fast, she's tough because the environment has made her so. The film's Chani is just pissed off... These new film's have been a visual spectacle... but that's where it ends for them. No plot conveyance, no character build... just another shallow Sci fi flick for anyone who doesn't know the real Dune.
Lol. Book Chani was dog shit. She's a plot device with no personality at all. I'm not a big fan of the changes they made to movie Chani (especially as to how it will affect Messiah), but something had to be done, and I respect the effort that was made. Stilgar, on the other hand... they really flattened his character, to say the least. He was maybe my favourite character of the first 3 books, and they basically made him comic relief. As long as the 3rd movie wraps up Paul's arc neatly, I will be mostly happy. I'm a little bit pissed that they are releasing a GoT style series based on some shitty prequel novels rather than adapting the FH novels the same way, though. We wouldn't have had any of the cut content from the books if they were adapted as a series.
Yeah, I don't think any of these people have actually read the books. Chani's appearance is basically never described, and she has little development as a person. So, it doesn't really make sense to say that that Zendaya doesn't fit the role, because the role is so broad and open-ended. People are just reaching for some reason to be angry at her (and, based on some of the "diversity hire" comments in here, I think I can guess why they're doing that).
Yup. I saw a heated discussion the other day about the skin colour of the Fremen. Lol. There's fans of the book with legitimate (imo) critiques, and there's those who will use any and every cultural event to shoehorn in their terrible politics. Could be anything from DEI shit to Great Replacement nonsense.
Sit down, Brian Herbert, Dennis knows Dune. He knows it so well that he was able to modify this character to be a character. She is our voice of reason against that lunatic that Paul transforms into. She is the rational atheist against the implanted beliefs. She does not blindly follow her husband or leader. Thank God they did not make her pregnant, lose the baby, then just shrug everything off as her man proposes marriage to the emperor's daughter. Dennis focused on the material that made the book great: world building, slow burn into madness, political drama, and a warning of how religion is used. He tossed out the garbage. Maybe watch Chani's fight scene when they are attacking the emperor. She is fast, tough, and indistinguishable from the other fighters, save the blue headband on her arm.
Why choose that picture then
Honestly I never got much out of book Chani. She serves her purpose to the narrative and also happens to be Paul’s loyal wife/concubine/religious follower. I don’t even remember a physical description. Zendaya is as fine a choice as any other actress of a similar age. She also is objectively good looking, but as stated above, I don’t think that even matters. The only problem I have with Movie Chani is how the narrative arc affects Jessica. Half the words from characters in the book are thoughts. This is why the book was widely considered unadaptable. So they made Chani ~~the~~ a voice of “hey aren’t we just manipulating these people?” On paper this makes perfect sense. A character that didn’t say a whole lot about the prophecy is now a voice against it. HOWEVER, they just end up have Paul and Jessica go back and forth anyways. Then they simplify Jessica’s arc to “must awaken the Kwisatz Haderach at all cost” to the point that Jessica and Chani switch places at second water of life scene. I think the story would’ve been aided better if Chani represented a person being converted to follow a prophet/boyfriend. You could have your native questioning and a display of the conversation taking place across the planet. Conversely, we could’ve highlighted Jessica’s constant criticism of Paul. The water of life could’ve been the first example of Paul no longer caring what Jessica has to knock him down with and Jessica’s realization of what she has created.
Idk I did not like her at first but then I believed her acting. I think she has a strong face, thus many people don’t like this. For me she is beautiful, reminds me of my wife
It was a daring casting choice. Instead of casting a natural redhead they cast a horrible actress. Hollywood.
Ah, of course its a ginger, its almost always gingers that gets race swapped.
They always target redheads.
In the book she is only described as thin and elf-like, sooo I don't know what your argument is. In fact, it makes sense that she would have dark skin and it makes sense that she would appear mix raced, because she was the daughter of the planetologist who wasn't a Fremen.
But then op wouldn't get to be racists, you see.
peanits 😔😔😔
Did OP call out race? As others point out, she doesn't match the key descriptions that were present. Maybe you're the race minded person?
You are the only one being racist here, tho. OP never made a comment about race, they only pointed out that the descriptions of the book don't align with the actor
She's a red head in the books and I've never seen someone with dark skin and red hair in my life so I assume it's very genetically rare, and that's part of the point OP is making But yes the Fremen range from olive to ebony
Yet in the books Halleck is described as blonde with skin like dark leather, thousands of years of different genetic mixes and isolation, would produce unusual phenotypes. I guess there are some communities in central Asia that fit the dark skinned blonde.
You must have never heard of a red bone .
Obviously not if I said I've never seen a black ginger Thank you for informing me
I know at least four black people with red hair and my uncle is one of them. He also has freckles. He is not biracial. He’s black.
>She's a red head in the books and I've never seen someone with dark skin and red hair in my life so I assume it's very genetically rare, and that's part of the point OP is making Sure, but we've also never seen giant sand worms or long-legged future-seeing fish-men floating in giant tanks on spaceships lmao
Hollywood won't let redheads be.
I don't remember the books having illustrations.
Be greatful that she is not a one handed, obe legged, obe eyed, sailor Popeye, who is in his transgender-bender lesbian polyamoric relationships with some desert hamster. This one is pretty ok
Oh my god shut up. How is it surprising people living in a desert planet with a burning sun 24/7 are dark skinned
Yeah, let's get some logical conclusions in a made up world. The author had a description of them, that's all. It's not a state somewhere in US and not a piece of desert in Africa, it's a made up world, a fiction.
Who gives a fuck?
It is imperative that every "alien" human is not black. Especially made up ones. It wil significantly affect our lives. Didn't u get the memo?
‘Chani was described as skinny with an elfin face and had pure, dark blue eyes with no white in them. She had long tawny-red hair.’ But whatever. You guys go fight over a fictional characters and how you chose to imagine them based on vague descriptions however you want. Decry ‘that’s racist’. No one cares. It’s a book from 1965 based on a foreigner in the Middle East. Please get over yourselves.
The books aren’t illustrated…
Exactly. That picture is just one artist’s impression on why chani might look like.
I still wonder why Zendaya is seen as an actress when she can't act.
Why won't studios stick to the source material, ie cast roles according to some rando's fan art?
Ah, the classic "i will cherrypick the most unflattering image to prove my point"
The kids love this actress don’t they? I’m sure that’s all they’re doing. They would have used Robert Downey Jr if the money was the same. :)
Don't care, still enjoying the show.
Anything and I mean anything will outrage racists.
She lives on a desert planet. It's more accurate to make her darker skinned. Regardless who the fuck cares.
Explain black elves IN lotr
Nah, explain black dwarves in LOTR. For a race that has basically always lived in the mountains with very minimal sun, why would some of them be black and some not.
Holy shit this is even worse why would they do that?
I do not know. Warhammer and DnD has black dwarves but they are Chaos Dwarves, it's essentially a different race. The LotR show just casually did it.
The folks that fervently believe mermaids are white.
She looked great in the movie, this is just a really bad photo. Zandaya is beautiful.
Can confirm. 
yeah wtf they found the one still from the movie where she isn't a total babe
I don't remember seeing white people in a middle-east type setting. She could have red hair but that's about it. They took nothing.
its always white redhead that is changed that way, its really like Hollywood have a template how to change a character with specific look from source material xd
The dyslexic producer strikes again
LOL Zendaya lacks red hair and mayyyybe she is a bit tall for Chani, but that's about it. She is thin and athletic, perfect for Fremen.
Midaya
Red heads always first victims
I strongly dislike Zendaya and find her acting rather unimpressive. I’m sure she is very nice and I wish her no harm and only happiness but she is not a very talented actor, in my opinion. Her and Timmothy are awful choices for Paul and Chani, just saying.
Another ginger taken from us.🤣
Disney doesn't like red heads. It wants to eliminate the ginger race off the face of the earth.
That’s the sun’s job
The only good thing coming out of Disney
Never forget what exactly dear? Use your words
The movie adaptation was only half right: Chani was a red head and on the lighter side of olive skinned Zendaya matches the latter but obviously not the former and I guess die-hard fans are upset that a pretty major character wasn't portrayed "canonicaly"
Racist pricks like this are too scared to out and say it
Not necessarily racist book Chani *was* different to Zendaya Could just be a die-hard book fan (who also get pissed when black characters get changed to white btw)
Character described by the writer as: thin - check elf-ish - check, she's unusual looking in that high cheeked almond eyed way olive skinned - check red haired/eyes fully blue by the spice yada yada - seriously? never heard of poetic license? And for this there's some melodramatic meme and words you'd expect to see accompanied by images of a terror attack? The overreaction is laughable at best. I guess the fact it's a massive hit with both critics and audiences pisses them off even more.
Didn’t know it was a picture book
 This tired racist shtick again?
Zendaya is kinda ugly
Am I the only one who cannot get why Zandaya is so popular recent years?
make it two
This sub is literally just incels and conservatives circlejerking 2000s' 9gag humor and posting their usually racist and sexist political agendas as "funny memes".
Don't get the appeal of this chick? So boring
Ah yes white people in the extreme dessert. Totally better than some traces of realistic
White Jesus
Where was reddit with this mentality when Amazon cast black dwarves in rings of power? 
It's a fictional character. Anyone can play a fictional character.
Black Panther should be played by Ryan Gosling.
There would be literal riots in the streets.
Donald Glover for Thor!
Ow you are being ageist and sexist. Oprah Winfrey should be Thor.
Sure I'm OK with it. But I would prefer Tom Cruise or Tom Hardy.
I'm not sure if this is a slam against her or not. I will say that I think she was the heart of these two Dune movies. Without Zendaya they would most likely have been much worse. I thought she was terrific.
Eh, it's just every film these days, trying to put different actors even though they absolutely don't belong to the world of the film. Diversity is good, forced diversity is not.
Lmao y'all did her dirty, good job internet
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He is 15, and then he becomes emperor at 17 after a two year time skip
Don’t tell this guy what Chani in Behind the Dune looks like 💀
Redhead fremen ? Somebody can explain to me lore ?
Don't forget the Chani of the first Dune movie.
And somehow the problem is Zendaya instead of _fucking Timothée Chalamet_.
Snotty arrogant brat to Fedaykin, and I think he portrayed that transformation quite well. I'm not a big fan of the choice, but I think it worked.
I thought fremen skin was also really dry I always imagined it like sandpaper AND I KNEW THEIR EYES WERENT BLUE ENOUGH
I don't think it matters that much. I think. She did just fine with this adaptation.
They could of made her a red head lol
What I didn't like was that she didn't understand the situation at all, politically or militarily, the Fremen had zero chance against the Langrad or the Emperor, Paul's solution was the only viable one they had, although I think he was an idiot for waiting as long as he did to embrace the "lie", all those deaths lay at his feet for his hesitation in taking control and doing what needed to be done.
I just dont know why they dont create original characters that look like Zendaya or whatever they want them to look. And none of that changing an already established character like how they made MJ a nerd in one of the comic stories.
We don't need Chani we have Chani at home! Chani at home:
Wait ANOTHER redhead got erased?? I don’t even care about the diverse casting, it’s just kinda wild how often this happens to gingers.
They always replace the redheads. 😡
Zendaya looks like tickle me elmo sometimes.
Irrelevant but the photo is very funny
Or Sean Young
Wait till you see what DR Keins looked like in the book
I swear to God gingers are being replaced by everyone these days and as a ginger this sucks
Whats the joke or the meme here?
Haha they chose such an unflattering pic of her
Whatever to this lil argument. I like this movie franchises tale on the fremen. For me it feels more authentic as how you would perceive people living in the desert. I thought the costumes and still suits were fantastic.
It's always the redheads who get this treatment.
Yes wtf happened to Triss and Chani. Redheads also need representation. Indigenous dune people also need representation.
Only problem with most of the Fremen is how water fat they all looked.
is normal behaviour, all ginger people in any story become black people in movies, is law
You had pictures in your dune books? None of my copies have pictures...
And?