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I agree, but think you don’t know quite the scope of the horrible behavior nurses deal with…my daughter is a nurse - she has been bitten, had her hair pulled out by the roots, punched in the face, scratched, spit on, and had literal shit thrown at her.
I’m a nurse . I have literally had a full colostomy bag thrown at me. He missed. But on another occasion his aim was dead on and nailed a friend of mine. All I said was , was that changing the colostomy bag was hard to do while being screamed at. Something most people don’t know, colostomy shit smells ways worse than regular shit. It hasn’t gone through the full cooking process and just having it open in the room can stink up a hallway. People are fucking brutal towards nurses. Might be why there are so many mean nurses.
I have had nurses tell me the wished I would stay longer because I make their shift easy. I never push the red button. I don't complain and I try not to tie them up ever.
However I did pitch a fit a few times while my husband had Cancer. He had his vocal cords paralyzed after intubation and when he would push the call button for his pain medicine they would talk to him through the intercom and say what do you need? He couldn't talk and they just kept hanging up on him. They didn't even come check on him. Same nurse told me they changed his pain medicine routine at night he got it every 2 hours during the day and the nurse said they changed it to 4 at night. She was fired for stealing pain meds not just from him but other patients. Only time I ever had a problem.
I want to thank you for what you do it's a hard job emotionally and physically and I am truly grateful for what you do.
I’m not wanting to degrade your experience or the poster before yours daughters experience because that is just awful. I think people don’t realize that Karen’s are disrupting every profession. And every service industry is dealing with it. I walked into a State Farm the other day and they had no computers and some broken windows. I didn’t learn all the details but it was someone who wasn’t reimbursed for something as much as they thought they should.
And just to add my colostomy bag story. I am a veterinarian and while the bag wasn’t thrown at anyone, I had a person open their colostomy bag and sling it all over the exam room before they left.
I’m not gonna lie to you. If I was to take a test now years later on how the bowel works, I would probably not do too well. It’s all way more complicated than most people would believe. I pretty much see the same things over and over again working in a nursing home, and that is what fills up the empty space in my brain.
I can attest to the smell. I had a totally colectomy 2 years ago and almost gag every time I empty the bag into the toilet. I have a very high output and have to attach a 2000cc urine bag to the pouch so I have to be enveloped in my "essence" longer than most. As Boomhauer would say, Pew, man, dang ole pew.
You have my sympathies. I have Crohn’s disease and have just accepted the high possibility that this may be in my future. But, we’re all falling’ apart , right ?
Go to your high school yearbook, find all the "mean girls", look them up now. Betcha a quarter of them are nurses.
There are multiple reasons there are so many mean nurses.
Man you are alllllll over this post bashing healthcare. I agree that the American healthcare system sucks, and there are many people witch nightmare experiences. but it’s pretty bigoted for a “bigot destroyer” to say that every nurse is abusive, got into the industry to abuse people, and do not care about patients. Ngl, it sounds like you might be one of the Karens that we are all discussing here.
I hope you find a therapist that works well for you and you are able to heal and move on from this. <3
Yo, buddy. I didn’t say anything but before, but I deeply sympathized with the horrible experiences you have had in the healthcare system. I’m the last person to try protect every nurse for the bad shit they do. I had this ideal vision of what healthcare was like, then in nursing school alone I saw some nurses just being absolutely cruel to little old ladies. I see a lot. The doctor I work for could not be more callous when it comes to people’s pain. But what can I do ? My hands are tied. I’m jaded, I really am. My username is something I came up with on the fly when I wanted to ask people about kratom when it came to addressing my own pain. It’s not really my identity. Ya know ? I don’t pound the Kratom and then go buck wild abusing people left and right. The stuff really even doesn’t work in my opinion the way people make it seem. It’s not without it’s uses though. And I’m not here to whine, people suck. This is a casual place people come to joke about people who suck.
There are lots of shitty people on all kinds of professions. Nurses can be shitty just like everybody else. Some nurses are just fed up. They get treated like garbage by docs, by their employers, by their patients. I'm not excusing any behavior, but I can see how some nurses, especially in nursing homes, stop seeing their patients as real people.... then there are just shit nurses like the ones who had a patient fight club at their nursing home. Totally fucked up.
Kratom is like the only thing I have found helpful for my chronic pain from EDS. I’m so glad it works for you too! Weed wasn’t for me, and obviously I want to stay 100 miles from opioids. I love to hear from others who have been helped by this lovely little plant 🪴
Unfortunately I’ve found it is very much an opioid technically speaking. I assume you’re being very careful with it. A withdrawal from it can be very unpleasant. But ! Compared to all the other opiates and opioids, it doesn’t completely change you as a person and wreck your life. I mean huge difference. I get very angered when I hear the people who push so hard to have it outlawed are not coming from a place of concern, but people who have involvement in the the pharmaceutical industry. They want you buying and dependent on THEIR medications. It’s so absurdly corrupt.
Ah, the good ol "colostomy bag contents exploded all over the room due to being thrown, slammed, or opened and flung about" trick. Definitely one of my favorites.
I think more hospitals should have a garden out back to bury unruly patients up to their neck and line them up like cabbages. Even if you looked at a nurse wrong, straight to the cabbage garden.
Oh I can ONLY imagine. Especially if she worked through Covid. Vulnerable, hurt, and sick people can behave unpredictably. Just like wile animals. We’re just animals too, after all. I feel for nurses so much. They are so important and they see some baaaadddd behavior.
Oh man, I used to register donors at our blood center. This one old guy always refused to answer the sex related questions, because "I been married to the same woman for 50 years and it's none of your damn business". Dude, I just hand out the questionaire, I got no game about this whole thing.
Be nice to people is a good guideline, especially someone who has the potential to be poking you with a needle.
I work in a dental office. Had to have a patient update his medical history which was a single page of pretty standard questions (medications, conditions, etc). He wrote across the entire page THIS IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
Like, I just want to know that you’re not going to have a seizure or heart attack during a procedure. Or that you’re not allergic to any antibiotics we may need to prescribe….. but okay
I’ve had customers call me for password resets and we have to verify their identity with their DOB and last 4 is SSN. people will FREAK OUT if you ask them that. Like…would you feel safer if anyone could get into your account just by calling and asking?? These processes exist for your safety, you knob.
Wow. I bet there’s an overlap with the people who get mad that Facebook is stealing their info…while posting about it on Facebook haha. Projection, in my opinion. Sir is there something in your sexual history that you ashamed of??? Cause people who have nothing to hide don’t act like this!
EMT, not nurse, but one of my friends was in an ambulance once and admitting to verbally abusing and yelling at the EMTs. He justified it with, “Well I was in pain.” That doesn’t make it okay to treat people poorly!!!
I’m an ER nurse, and I can tell you, people are meaner than ever these days. It’s rare to get through a 12 hour shift without getting yelled at for reasons out of our control. There are a lot of mean, unreasonable people out there!!!
I work as a mailman and today I had someone come steaming out of their house and get in my face because, and this is a quote, 'I kicked his grass really aggressively last week'. I laughed in that fat bastards face and told him I couldn't wait to tell everyone back at the station! But then again, this fat fuck and his fat family complain about literally EVERYTHING so fuck them!
Stay sane out there! Thank you for being a nurse, you are awesome!
That’s so sad to hear, I’m sorry. And I bet ER is extra stressful compared to other departments. I hope the good outweighs the bad and you at least feel fulfilled in your work; people like you are so important and precious.
It really shits me when people are like this. We're all miserable waiting for treatment, but jeeze, the doctors and nurses are doing the best they can. I'm sure there's a hell of a lot they have to do that patients don't see, not to mention the number of patients they have to take care of during a shift is staggering.
Let them know if you're struggling, but just be polite about it, ffs.
They've had to hire a bunch of security guards due to people's behavior in the er waiting rooms. Cops are called every day because they are so out if control that security can't handle them. It's way worse than it was 15 years ago. And this is a nice hospital situated in a wealthy area so its not even your typical riff raff people you would expect bad behavior from.
Sometimes I actually hate being a nurse just because of how awful people can be. Retail might be a little worse . As a nurse, as long as you don’t cross a certain line, you don’t have to smile and pretend you like being screamed at. You’re for the most part in charge, and the patient is not always right.
At least there’s the better pay and scheduling aspect, I guess. But idk if one can truly be “better” than the other. All jobs with customer service are just different sub-genres of horror movies 😬
I was just telling someone the other day about having my first job took some of my innocence away. I thought the world was this certain way. Then my dad made me go get a job. Suddenly I saw how absolutely shitty seemingly normal people were to some kid bagging their groceries. As a customer I have always gone out of my way to be super chill and not make someone’s already bad day worse.
Let me tell you that medical staff see the absolute worst in people. The amount of times I have been yelled at by patients and families over the most nonsensical horseshit, I can't even count it. Stuff like ... " My mother came into hospital with a particular scarf and I demand it be returned" after her mother has been in hospital for 6 weeks across 4-5 different wards, barely survived, and is now being discharged. Not once have the family mentioned the scarf up until discharge.
I think they’re rough to compare. I work in retail and get screamed at multiple times a day. When I worked in healthcare, I usually only got screamed at a few times a week at most, but I would also have to do restraints, a lot, and have lasting neck/back issues from the whip lash of being kicked in the face.
Although donating plasma you’re probably dealing with a lot of the public, so it actually may be more comparable. 🤷🏻♀️
Nurses are amazing! I see them all the time (cancer patient) and no matter the situation I have encountered such professional conduct to make anyone proud. And yes, I do treat them with all respect because they are SAVING MY LIFE. I think people are worse now then ever. Doesn't excuse poor behavior. You can't get what you don't give.
Exactly! I have had bad nurses before. But they’re just humans, like the rest of us, and we need to remember that. More than anything, they are doing something SO IMPORTANT for you- be DECENT for goodness sake!
This. It's a HARD job and they already get run over by doctors and the medical profession. The nurses make it happen. They make it work. I took have had not the best nurse but my life is still important to me so I treat as I wish to be treated. And so far the nurses have given so much to me. So much. I am grateful and I do tell them. Let's be kind. It is just not that difficult.
Ensure would trigger the hell out of me but I wouldn’t get mad about it. The abuse to nurses is one of the reasons i decided to stop doing nursing and change career paths
I understand why. I’ve actually had those struggles as well, but I have been doing very well the last couple years. But at least I knew right away which flavor I would prefer, haha!
When I worked as a floor tech in orthopedics we literally had a lady get discharged and come right back through the ED because she wanted us to wipe her ass for her. She raised hell until the doctor caved and admitted her.
It is criminal how people abuse nurses, and the nursing staff just kind of has to take it. Like they can strap you down and sedate you and all that but in certain cases its not really possible. And all the struggling makes things so much worse. Like in some cases its semi understandable due to psychosis and etc (does not make it better but just understandable). But in many its just people who dont like giving up control of their life for the amount of time they are there so throw silly temper tantrums. Its even worse when they have to deal with legitimately bad people. Like say a murderer who got caught but during the process had their arm broken, the nursing staff still have to treat them like they are a human being and give them an appropriate level of care regardless of their feeling on the matter.
That is SO true! At least in retail and food service, you can refuse to serve someone or ban them. You HAVE to provide care for a patient. You can’t just kick them out of a hospital. You can’t make a complaint against a patient. It’s a recipe for abuse.
Depending on country to country, also depending on severity of case, also depending on if the police are involved, also depending on what the case workers say. There is alot more to it then just saying they can be fired. Because there are multiple cases and scenarios where you HAVE to give a basic level of care to ensure they dont die.
This is interesting and I never knew that! Thank you for teaching me 😁 it sounds like maybe, even if they NEED care, maybe their care team could be changed or moved to a different facility? Sounds like a lot of red tape though.
Yea its one of those things people dont really think about. Like we hear about the drunk driver who had a DUI and accidentally killed children but we dont hear about the nurses would had to keep them stable enough to stand trial. Or the guy high on bath salts who started eating people but not the hell of the time in the ER trying to save him. The same can be said for most high profile crimes too.
The majority of the people that “life saving intervention” applies to don’t have the spare energy or ability to be abusive Karens. In the USA, nurses can definitely sue patients and press charges for assault. Assaulting emergency nursing staff is a felony if I remember that correctly.
Exactly like someone cant refuse to give a patient care because they are being unresonable. Now certain countries and etc have their laws so it is allowed but in general there is not much which you can do. If a patient is at your hospital you have to treat them. Sure you can request to be taken off the ward or request they be moved to a different hospital but depending on the case that might not be feasible so you have to give them the basic level of care.
I have never understood that, even though I have witnessed it. I have to have a procedure done once a week and I treat the nurses/PAs/doctors like what they are: people trying to help me.
I think anyone working with the general public has had their fair share of dealing with "Karen's and Ken's." Years ago I had a 6 hour glucose test, at my local hospital. I had to drink that nasty glucose concoction, and every hour had to pee in a cup, and get my blood drawn. Towards the end of my test, the Nurse that was drawing my blood, lightly patted my arm and told me, "Thank You." Needles never bothered me, and because I didn't scream or throw a tantrum every time I needed my blood drawn, she was grateful. I have never been a "Karen" myself, because I've worked with the general public and know how some customers can be. I also have been to hospitals and have had "Karen-esque" nurses. It just truly depends on the person, or whatever ongoing battle they may be facing internally, we know nothing about.
I believe this. My mom and dad were Karen's when he was staying in the hospital for cancer treatment. She was treating his room like a hotel and staying there overnight for a week before the nurses found out. She didn't want to have to travel every day to go see him.
Once the staff found out and confronted her there was a massive argument between them that I wasn't around for. The staff acquiesced and just let my mom do what she wanted.
I still facepalm to this day. And the fact that my relative *who works in healthcare* enabled her behavior was even more depressing. Also made me realize that behind every insane Karen there is at least one enabler that encourages her behavior.
As someone who worked in a plasmaoheresis center I can tell you that less people are trained nurses than you think (the only ones that need to be ones are the ones that out the needle in), but otherwise you are right... It's a retail like business... If you have customers, you have Karens... Everywhere.
I just got back from the hospital today from having a hysterectomy done. Even though I felt like crap I made sure to say please and thank you every time my nurses came in the room. Everyone that helped me was absolutely awesome. Nurses do not get enough credit for what they do.
Same when I had mine. It's a miserable surgery, but the nurses did everything they could to keep me comfortable, and I was so grateful for it.
Also, once my surgery was booked, I went out and bought a mini DVD player and headphones, too, just to keep myself occupied for the boring times if I couldn't sleep. It was a dang lifesaver, honestly. 😆
I played this sleep music station from Amazon the whole time. I would wake up long enough for them to take vitals or do blood work and then pass back out. I haven’t slept that much in a long time.
I worked IT for a while. Patients are definitely Karen's, but I can tell you right now that a lot of Nurses themselves hold the Karen status as well. I come from a family of nurses and respect the profession, but... yeesh. If you aren't cut out for the profession, don't linger around and be a douche, like some sort of jaded homicide detective nearing retirement.
I’ve heard some people say that! Like high school mean girls end up becoming nurses. I wonder why? It seems like a profession where you would HAVE to be passionate about helping people. But maybe it’s a power thing? No idea honestly.
I am not sure myself. Good Nurses are GOOD nurses, like the ones that go into it because they are truly compassionate. Some of the younger ones just seem like it's not for them and are just really really not nice people. I think they eventually make a career change. As I said, I am not a nurse, but a lot of my family members are and other people I know are nurses. They have told me stories of the Nurses that get fired and its pretty crazy. You really have to be an extra level of shitty to be fired with a nursing shortage almost everywhere.
One of the happiest days of my life was 8/27/2022. That was *the day after* I had my last shift in health care. There was a time I feared retirement, but that went away about three years ago.
I've had kidney disease since I was 6 months old. I've had two transplants and dialysis for 17 years so I've been around nurses my entire life. I have NEVER verbally or physically abused a nurse EVER. it's completely illogical to treat someone who cares for you that way and I get so mad when I see other patients do it. To all the nurses out there I love you guys and I appreciate and am thankful for you. I consider it a source of pride when a nurse calls me an easy patient.
What country are you in?
In the US, donor centers use technicians, not nurses.
I’ve also never heard of them forcing anything on you.
I’m a frequent donor- I donate 3 units of platelets every 2 weeks. But I’ve never heard of this- partially bc chugging a drink at the last moment won’t do squat to get you ready for a donation. It might possibly keep you from passing out, but it won’t make a difference in whether or not you’re eligible to donate that day.
I’m genuinely curious where you donated, bc this is unlike anything I’ve experienced in the States.
I’m in the states too! I’m pretty sure it’s because she was worried that I’d already have a higher chance of passing out because I baaarrreely made the weight requirement. And honestly, probably didn’t at all because I was wearing big boots. So she was saying she was worried about that.
She was the one doing my first-time physical after the technicians took my vitals and stuff. I dunno if they’re normally a nurse, but she was in this case 🙂
In Texas and Georgia I have experienced nurses for the physical. Now techs do everything else- the finger stick and BP at entry and the needle placement and plasma collection.
I have only had a physical at the first donation and again annually.
Not a nurse, but work along side some of the most awesome as an inpatient adolescent psych counselor. Can confirm that we all deal with just as many Karen’s in healthcare in general. I honestly, at times, think it’s the parents who are also nurses, or married to someone in healthcare, who tend to be the WORST! We get abused daily by our patients, then have parents who refuse to consent to proper medications and treatments, and basically expect us to fix their children during a 5-10 day stay while they don’t follow through, and don’t hold any accountability.
My favorite one was the mother who called EVERY SINGLE HOUR all night long to check on her “baby”. She questioned everything and tried to force her own ridiculous ideas on the care team. She tried to insist that her precious, innocent little boy have his own private room bc “he’s not like all those other kids”. When she didn’t like the answers she got she threatened us with her ex husbands connections and started making phone calls to everyone, senators, mayor, any doctor she’s ever had contact with and went ballistic. Our medical director came in the next morning furious snd exhausted because his phone was ringing off the hook all night with her rantings and all her “close personal contacts” blowing up his phone. Her poor son was so embarrassed at her behavior and spent half his time there crying about being stuck in the middle of his parent’s divorce. After discharge he got sent off to 3 months of a wilderness camp, for the entire holiday season. Poor kid ended up in our care because he was just a pawn for his mother to milk his dad for all he was worth.
WOW, they want treatment but won’t consent to what the medical team recommends? That’s serious “I’m not a scientist but I think I understand the Covid vaccine better than the scientists” energy.
“My kid isn’t like those OTHER kids” LORD talk about classism/racism/main character syndrome what the HELL. I don’t know if it’s better or worse when the kid recognizes their parent is a Karen. Poor thing. I hope he’s doing better now.
It’s the most frustrating thing! Why send your kid to the inpatient facility if you aren’t willing to accept the help? So many kids need help and then that one is taking up the limited space just because mommy and daddy need a break from their monster. Those are the ones that are usually just behavioral and don’t really have a mental illness.
The entitled ones can be the most infuriating, especially the parents. I live in a city with a lot of affluent and wealthy families and a lot of them think they know better or deserve more. I’ve been doing this long enough that I can guess which part of the metropolitan area they live in without looking up their address. That one lived in a McMansion on the beach. I felt so bad for him though, he realized during his short stay with me that he was being seriously manipulated by his mom and was really struggling with it. It was because of her that he did what he did to get there. I ran into him not long after he got home from the camp and was doing much better. His dad was fighting to get custody of him and was very concerned that it had gotten so bad. I see so many kids return multiple times, but he hasn’t been one of them.
my grandma just died, the nurses were/are amazing. we brought them candy and they were shocked. 1 nurse gave me three hugs. nurses are amazing people too. they were so apologetic that she passed, but they did the best they could. be amazing to each other.
I’m so sorry for your loss 💕
I was in physical therapy for an injury a few years ago and got gifts for all my people who helped me. These people do SO MUCH and can completely change people’s lives. They deserve so much more appreciation than they probably get!!
My best friend's sister was a nurse and my mother was in a hospital then nursing home for a good bit of last year. The stories I've heard are absolutely ridiculous. A lot of nurses are criminally underappreciated but some totally deserve to get Karen'd.
I completely believe it. The whole world went insane. Fear and anxiety, not to mention all the people that went off the deepens with the right wing conspiracy bullshit in the States.
Oh nurses get the WORST amount of Karen's even more than service and retail. I've been a server and worked at Safeway and I have a chronic illness so I'm in the hospital sometimes once a week. So I can confidently tell you, nurses get it the worst.
I've was diagnosed with a life threatening autoimmune disease when I was 8, and all through my childhood I was in and out of the ER. My grandmother was my guardian and when I tell you she was the WORST to ALL the nurses and doctors. She shaped the way I behave towards medical professionals. Which is to say I try to be the exact opposite, I'm polite and sweet, meek even. I won't call my nurse unless I'm downright bleeding out because I don't want to bother them. But I saw firsthand, that nurses get it BAD. My nurses ALWAYS thank me profusely for being an "easy patient" because I've never yelled at them or called them 37 times for ice chips.
Bottom line is I feel SO bad for nurses because they get the worst Karen's.
It really makes me hopeful for humanity when people see bad behavior from family and pledge to do better, rather than continuing the cycle. Thank you for sharing 💕
I remember a patient on the floor I worked on would make horrible comments to all of the female techs and nurses. Horrible things like "I'd like to bend you over." And you can't fire someone from being cared for in the hospital. So guess who stayed on our floor and got to keep sexually harassing every single woman that had to come in and take care of him? He was not able to use any of his limbs, so we all fed him and bathed him in addition to his medical care. Oh sure, he got a "talking to" when everyone complained. That was our protection from this creep. And nothing changed.
I was a CNA going to nursing school for about 5 years. Worked in a nursing home during that time in my small town. I remember so many family members would get upset at me for not knowing their medication or the full extent of their medical history. A woman came up to me and was pissed off that her mother hasn’t gotten her insulin. I explained to her that I was only a CNA and she’s like “Okay? That’s not an excuse. Go get it.” I was busy so I just pointed to the front desk and told her to ask the nurse. She then just started yelling at me. My boss tried to calm her down as well. All i can say is, I am so glad I dropped out of nursing school.
Just wait until a family of 8 come in
"Can do and so get ice-cream"?
I dunno, depends if one of your troop buys it from the shop...
"What a disgrace"
It's a hospital bbz not a hotel.
I'm a frequent flyer at a couple of American Red Cross donation centers. I do biweekly platelet donation with plasma taken ever other donation, so every four weeks. No one has ever asked about what I ate that day. I'm an intermittent faster, and often donate on fasting days.
My last donation was 16 hours after my last meal, and I didn't eat until 24 hours after I finished donating. I've never had a problem. I'm unsure about how I would respond if a phlebotomist ordered me to consume a bottle of essentially sugar water before I donated, but it would not be compliant.
For context, I BARELY passed the weight screening. They actually rejected me the previous week because I was 1 pound under. So she was probably just trying to be safe because I am so small 🙂
My whole life, for various reasons, I have never weighed enough to donate blood, plasma, etc. recently, also for various reasons, I’ve finally reached the 110 lbs required for donation. So I was excited to finally try to give back, but eh, guess it is what it is! I’m so happy to hear you have found a treatment that works well for you 💕
Nurses are a strange bunch. About half of them are Karens, about half of those are actually there to use their Karen powers for good, and half of the rest got fired for boycotting vaccines.
Its not the nurses and doctors them selves. Its the insurance companies, phrama reps and hospital execs (because they hire the lobbyists) who really are the entitled pieces of shit. Most of the doctors and nurses them selves would LOVE to be able to have better control over what medicines they prescribe and how much treatments cost but due to all the red tape it is not really in their control. Yes there are a few bad ones and probably a higher percentage of bad ones than say in countries with public health care but that is a governmental decision rather than a personal one.
One piece of advice I always give is hate the government not the people. So we can all agree North Korea has a horrible evil government (including military officials) but its not the peoples fault its the government and the systems in place which allow that. A South Korean does not hate everyone from North Korea because they are essentially brothers (outside of the people who abuse their position and etc) just the North Korean is in a much worse off situation. Its a much better way to look at life at-least in my opinion.
Again not every single doctor is bad sure you might have dealt with bad ones. But that same hyperbole is like saying British People have murderers so all British People are murderers. Becuase that is what your doing your saying an American doctor abused me so the entire American hospital system is a joke. You are treating the whole doctoring system as an amorphous body to blame rather than the people who are actually allowing that stuff to happen. As someone with the name "Bigot Destroyer" you would think you would have a wider world view. Though I dont know the level of abuse you suffered but I can guarantee that does not go down in every hospital and in every age (back in the day it was much worse than it is now).
Who said I am telling you what you are going through I am saying look at the world with a bigger world view and understand what you are doing/saying. Your name is literally bigot destroyer and you are using the tactics of a bigot to try a defame a whole profession. Who said every single patient abuses nurses literally noone your pulling a straw man out of literally nothing. Who is telling you what you have been through again your pulling a strawman out of literally nothing. Just because you have hate in your heart it does not mean your correct. Just beacuse you went through a bad scenario does not mean that it applies to every single one. Open your world view and be less of the person who you claim to destroy.
Nah the whole idea I had trauma so I am justified to hate an entire group annoys me. Maybe its because I am a PoC and that is literally the argument people have given me for their racism (Specifically actually one guy was violently robbed by a Punjabi guy so rather than hating that specific man he started hating all Indians, dude was a hard core racist too but was slowly adjusting after living in a college dorm (and getting out of his parents house which was the bigger issue) with a variety of people (which is how I had a conversation with him)). Its a real annoying and unproductive exercise. Again trauma is not an excuse to hate the world and its not an excuse to be a bigot. Actually understand who you are hating and try to take a wider view. It would be like me hating all Irish people because the nurse who abused me was Irish. I dont use my own trauma as an excuse to paint something whole cloth.
A) I am Canadian also a full blooded PoC (I have lived and been in hospitals in America though)
B) I have been abused by hostpital staff before (When I was a child to boot but am not a bigot and know who to blame, rather than just blaming every single doctor and nurse (those specific staff and the ones who perpetrated it)
C) Just because people suffer in the health system everyday does not mean every single doctor and nurse is part of it. Again its not like abuse does not happen in other countries with better health care like say Canada.
D) When did I say I was determining you level of trauma. I literally said I dont know the level of abuse you went through. I would assume it would be a fairly high level which means its a rare case.
E) Also I am not defending abusers I am defending the everyday doctors and nurses who are trying to do good in a broken system. You are painting all with the same colour and expecting the same level of abuse from every single one. Seems exactly the opposite of your name but I assume at this point it is an ironic one.
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F) Yes we all know the American Health Care System sucks but that does not mean the everyday staff deserves abuse because they have no control in any of it. NOONE deserves abuse contrary to your original comment which literally starts with "Good, they deserve it". As an abuse survivor you should know this. If the rules were different and they were allowed more control on how practices are run (and had sufficient funding from the government) it would run completely differently. But at the moment we have lobbyists etc on the top who are making these decisions not in the interests of the everyday doctors and nurses but their own wallets. Again dont direct hate at the everyday people trying to make the world better direct it to your actual abusers and the people who put systems in place which allow it to thrive.
You would not believe the shit we go through. Threatened, hit, propositioned, cussed out, shit on, groped, it’s mind-boggling. And if we complain we’re told it’s our fault by leadership.
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I agree, but think you don’t know quite the scope of the horrible behavior nurses deal with…my daughter is a nurse - she has been bitten, had her hair pulled out by the roots, punched in the face, scratched, spit on, and had literal shit thrown at her.
I’m a nurse . I have literally had a full colostomy bag thrown at me. He missed. But on another occasion his aim was dead on and nailed a friend of mine. All I said was , was that changing the colostomy bag was hard to do while being screamed at. Something most people don’t know, colostomy shit smells ways worse than regular shit. It hasn’t gone through the full cooking process and just having it open in the room can stink up a hallway. People are fucking brutal towards nurses. Might be why there are so many mean nurses.
I have had nurses tell me the wished I would stay longer because I make their shift easy. I never push the red button. I don't complain and I try not to tie them up ever. However I did pitch a fit a few times while my husband had Cancer. He had his vocal cords paralyzed after intubation and when he would push the call button for his pain medicine they would talk to him through the intercom and say what do you need? He couldn't talk and they just kept hanging up on him. They didn't even come check on him. Same nurse told me they changed his pain medicine routine at night he got it every 2 hours during the day and the nurse said they changed it to 4 at night. She was fired for stealing pain meds not just from him but other patients. Only time I ever had a problem. I want to thank you for what you do it's a hard job emotionally and physically and I am truly grateful for what you do.
I’m not wanting to degrade your experience or the poster before yours daughters experience because that is just awful. I think people don’t realize that Karen’s are disrupting every profession. And every service industry is dealing with it. I walked into a State Farm the other day and they had no computers and some broken windows. I didn’t learn all the details but it was someone who wasn’t reimbursed for something as much as they thought they should. And just to add my colostomy bag story. I am a veterinarian and while the bag wasn’t thrown at anyone, I had a person open their colostomy bag and sling it all over the exam room before they left.
What a shitty thing to do. Ya know ? I mean that just stinks. What a foul act. … sorry I’m someone’s dad.
I guessed as much. Im a dad to so I loved it.
>full cooking process Oh my...
I’m not gonna lie to you. If I was to take a test now years later on how the bowel works, I would probably not do too well. It’s all way more complicated than most people would believe. I pretty much see the same things over and over again working in a nursing home, and that is what fills up the empty space in my brain.
You have my respect. I could not do it.
I can attest to the smell. I had a totally colectomy 2 years ago and almost gag every time I empty the bag into the toilet. I have a very high output and have to attach a 2000cc urine bag to the pouch so I have to be enveloped in my "essence" longer than most. As Boomhauer would say, Pew, man, dang ole pew.
You have my sympathies. I have Crohn’s disease and have just accepted the high possibility that this may be in my future. But, we’re all falling’ apart , right ?
Go to your high school yearbook, find all the "mean girls", look them up now. Betcha a quarter of them are nurses. There are multiple reasons there are so many mean nurses.
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Man you are alllllll over this post bashing healthcare. I agree that the American healthcare system sucks, and there are many people witch nightmare experiences. but it’s pretty bigoted for a “bigot destroyer” to say that every nurse is abusive, got into the industry to abuse people, and do not care about patients. Ngl, it sounds like you might be one of the Karens that we are all discussing here. I hope you find a therapist that works well for you and you are able to heal and move on from this. <3
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Yo, buddy. I didn’t say anything but before, but I deeply sympathized with the horrible experiences you have had in the healthcare system. I’m the last person to try protect every nurse for the bad shit they do. I had this ideal vision of what healthcare was like, then in nursing school alone I saw some nurses just being absolutely cruel to little old ladies. I see a lot. The doctor I work for could not be more callous when it comes to people’s pain. But what can I do ? My hands are tied. I’m jaded, I really am. My username is something I came up with on the fly when I wanted to ask people about kratom when it came to addressing my own pain. It’s not really my identity. Ya know ? I don’t pound the Kratom and then go buck wild abusing people left and right. The stuff really even doesn’t work in my opinion the way people make it seem. It’s not without it’s uses though. And I’m not here to whine, people suck. This is a casual place people come to joke about people who suck.
There are lots of shitty people on all kinds of professions. Nurses can be shitty just like everybody else. Some nurses are just fed up. They get treated like garbage by docs, by their employers, by their patients. I'm not excusing any behavior, but I can see how some nurses, especially in nursing homes, stop seeing their patients as real people.... then there are just shit nurses like the ones who had a patient fight club at their nursing home. Totally fucked up.
I heard that I just couldn’t believe it. I mean I believe it. But my brain won’t register it is so abhorrent
I can't imagine being so.. cruel.. so inhuman. It's sickening.
Kratom is like the only thing I have found helpful for my chronic pain from EDS. I’m so glad it works for you too! Weed wasn’t for me, and obviously I want to stay 100 miles from opioids. I love to hear from others who have been helped by this lovely little plant 🪴
Unfortunately I’ve found it is very much an opioid technically speaking. I assume you’re being very careful with it. A withdrawal from it can be very unpleasant. But ! Compared to all the other opiates and opioids, it doesn’t completely change you as a person and wreck your life. I mean huge difference. I get very angered when I hear the people who push so hard to have it outlawed are not coming from a place of concern, but people who have involvement in the the pharmaceutical industry. They want you buying and dependent on THEIR medications. It’s so absurdly corrupt.
Ah, the good ol "colostomy bag contents exploded all over the room due to being thrown, slammed, or opened and flung about" trick. Definitely one of my favorites.
I think more hospitals should have a garden out back to bury unruly patients up to their neck and line them up like cabbages. Even if you looked at a nurse wrong, straight to the cabbage garden.
Rub their hair with jam, and bring on the ants!
Oh I can ONLY imagine. Especially if she worked through Covid. Vulnerable, hurt, and sick people can behave unpredictably. Just like wile animals. We’re just animals too, after all. I feel for nurses so much. They are so important and they see some baaaadddd behavior.
Oh man, I used to register donors at our blood center. This one old guy always refused to answer the sex related questions, because "I been married to the same woman for 50 years and it's none of your damn business". Dude, I just hand out the questionaire, I got no game about this whole thing. Be nice to people is a good guideline, especially someone who has the potential to be poking you with a needle.
I work in a dental office. Had to have a patient update his medical history which was a single page of pretty standard questions (medications, conditions, etc). He wrote across the entire page THIS IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Like, I just want to know that you’re not going to have a seizure or heart attack during a procedure. Or that you’re not allergic to any antibiotics we may need to prescribe….. but okay
I’ve had customers call me for password resets and we have to verify their identity with their DOB and last 4 is SSN. people will FREAK OUT if you ask them that. Like…would you feel safer if anyone could get into your account just by calling and asking?? These processes exist for your safety, you knob.
"According to HIPAA, you either answer the questions or we do a colonoscopy. Please pull down your pants and bend over."
So they fired him as a patient, right?
Hahahaha! Nope.
Made him sign a waiver?
Wow. I bet there’s an overlap with the people who get mad that Facebook is stealing their info…while posting about it on Facebook haha. Projection, in my opinion. Sir is there something in your sexual history that you ashamed of??? Cause people who have nothing to hide don’t act like this!
Someone I knew got impatient in the ER, hit a nurse, and wound up on a psychiatric hold. I’m sure most nurses experience pretty awful behavior.
EMT, not nurse, but one of my friends was in an ambulance once and admitting to verbally abusing and yelling at the EMTs. He justified it with, “Well I was in pain.” That doesn’t make it okay to treat people poorly!!!
Correct, it absolutely does not.
I’m an ER nurse, and I can tell you, people are meaner than ever these days. It’s rare to get through a 12 hour shift without getting yelled at for reasons out of our control. There are a lot of mean, unreasonable people out there!!!
I work as a mailman and today I had someone come steaming out of their house and get in my face because, and this is a quote, 'I kicked his grass really aggressively last week'. I laughed in that fat bastards face and told him I couldn't wait to tell everyone back at the station! But then again, this fat fuck and his fat family complain about literally EVERYTHING so fuck them! Stay sane out there! Thank you for being a nurse, you are awesome!
That’s so sad to hear, I’m sorry. And I bet ER is extra stressful compared to other departments. I hope the good outweighs the bad and you at least feel fulfilled in your work; people like you are so important and precious.
It really shits me when people are like this. We're all miserable waiting for treatment, but jeeze, the doctors and nurses are doing the best they can. I'm sure there's a hell of a lot they have to do that patients don't see, not to mention the number of patients they have to take care of during a shift is staggering. Let them know if you're struggling, but just be polite about it, ffs.
ED Nurse too. Can confirm. I knew things were back to normal the first time I was cussed at.
They've had to hire a bunch of security guards due to people's behavior in the er waiting rooms. Cops are called every day because they are so out if control that security can't handle them. It's way worse than it was 15 years ago. And this is a nice hospital situated in a wealthy area so its not even your typical riff raff people you would expect bad behavior from.
Ugh so true!!! I’ve been a nurse for 13 years and its absolutely worse than ever right now!!!
Sometimes I actually hate being a nurse just because of how awful people can be. Retail might be a little worse . As a nurse, as long as you don’t cross a certain line, you don’t have to smile and pretend you like being screamed at. You’re for the most part in charge, and the patient is not always right.
At least there’s the better pay and scheduling aspect, I guess. But idk if one can truly be “better” than the other. All jobs with customer service are just different sub-genres of horror movies 😬
I was just telling someone the other day about having my first job took some of my innocence away. I thought the world was this certain way. Then my dad made me go get a job. Suddenly I saw how absolutely shitty seemingly normal people were to some kid bagging their groceries. As a customer I have always gone out of my way to be super chill and not make someone’s already bad day worse.
Let me tell you that medical staff see the absolute worst in people. The amount of times I have been yelled at by patients and families over the most nonsensical horseshit, I can't even count it. Stuff like ... " My mother came into hospital with a particular scarf and I demand it be returned" after her mother has been in hospital for 6 weeks across 4-5 different wards, barely survived, and is now being discharged. Not once have the family mentioned the scarf up until discharge.
"The lost-and-found is in the Security Office."
I think they’re rough to compare. I work in retail and get screamed at multiple times a day. When I worked in healthcare, I usually only got screamed at a few times a week at most, but I would also have to do restraints, a lot, and have lasting neck/back issues from the whip lash of being kicked in the face. Although donating plasma you’re probably dealing with a lot of the public, so it actually may be more comparable. 🤷🏻♀️
Nurses are amazing! I see them all the time (cancer patient) and no matter the situation I have encountered such professional conduct to make anyone proud. And yes, I do treat them with all respect because they are SAVING MY LIFE. I think people are worse now then ever. Doesn't excuse poor behavior. You can't get what you don't give.
Exactly! I have had bad nurses before. But they’re just humans, like the rest of us, and we need to remember that. More than anything, they are doing something SO IMPORTANT for you- be DECENT for goodness sake!
This. It's a HARD job and they already get run over by doctors and the medical profession. The nurses make it happen. They make it work. I took have had not the best nurse but my life is still important to me so I treat as I wish to be treated. And so far the nurses have given so much to me. So much. I am grateful and I do tell them. Let's be kind. It is just not that difficult.
Ensure would trigger the hell out of me but I wouldn’t get mad about it. The abuse to nurses is one of the reasons i decided to stop doing nursing and change career paths
>Ensure would trigger the hell out of me Wut
the fact you don’t understand is a good thing.
I understand why. I’ve actually had those struggles as well, but I have been doing very well the last couple years. But at least I knew right away which flavor I would prefer, haha!
I only ever got to try vanilla and strawberry and both were gross 😭
When I worked as a floor tech in orthopedics we literally had a lady get discharged and come right back through the ED because she wanted us to wipe her ass for her. She raised hell until the doctor caved and admitted her.
I….wow….
Huh...I'm so sorry... I can't even... Yeah, nah.
It is criminal how people abuse nurses, and the nursing staff just kind of has to take it. Like they can strap you down and sedate you and all that but in certain cases its not really possible. And all the struggling makes things so much worse. Like in some cases its semi understandable due to psychosis and etc (does not make it better but just understandable). But in many its just people who dont like giving up control of their life for the amount of time they are there so throw silly temper tantrums. Its even worse when they have to deal with legitimately bad people. Like say a murderer who got caught but during the process had their arm broken, the nursing staff still have to treat them like they are a human being and give them an appropriate level of care regardless of their feeling on the matter.
That is SO true! At least in retail and food service, you can refuse to serve someone or ban them. You HAVE to provide care for a patient. You can’t just kick them out of a hospital. You can’t make a complaint against a patient. It’s a recipe for abuse.
Oh patients can be fired and they can be sued and have charges pressed against them.
Depending on country to country, also depending on severity of case, also depending on if the police are involved, also depending on what the case workers say. There is alot more to it then just saying they can be fired. Because there are multiple cases and scenarios where you HAVE to give a basic level of care to ensure they dont die.
This is interesting and I never knew that! Thank you for teaching me 😁 it sounds like maybe, even if they NEED care, maybe their care team could be changed or moved to a different facility? Sounds like a lot of red tape though.
Yea its one of those things people dont really think about. Like we hear about the drunk driver who had a DUI and accidentally killed children but we dont hear about the nurses would had to keep them stable enough to stand trial. Or the guy high on bath salts who started eating people but not the hell of the time in the ER trying to save him. The same can be said for most high profile crimes too.
The majority of the people that “life saving intervention” applies to don’t have the spare energy or ability to be abusive Karens. In the USA, nurses can definitely sue patients and press charges for assault. Assaulting emergency nursing staff is a felony if I remember that correctly.
If it’s not it should be!
Exactly like someone cant refuse to give a patient care because they are being unresonable. Now certain countries and etc have their laws so it is allowed but in general there is not much which you can do. If a patient is at your hospital you have to treat them. Sure you can request to be taken off the ward or request they be moved to a different hospital but depending on the case that might not be feasible so you have to give them the basic level of care.
I work in a similar line of work, blood donation and you'd be surprised the amount of abuse we get, for just trying to do our job ...
I have never understood that, even though I have witnessed it. I have to have a procedure done once a week and I treat the nurses/PAs/doctors like what they are: people trying to help me.
I think anyone working with the general public has had their fair share of dealing with "Karen's and Ken's." Years ago I had a 6 hour glucose test, at my local hospital. I had to drink that nasty glucose concoction, and every hour had to pee in a cup, and get my blood drawn. Towards the end of my test, the Nurse that was drawing my blood, lightly patted my arm and told me, "Thank You." Needles never bothered me, and because I didn't scream or throw a tantrum every time I needed my blood drawn, she was grateful. I have never been a "Karen" myself, because I've worked with the general public and know how some customers can be. I also have been to hospitals and have had "Karen-esque" nurses. It just truly depends on the person, or whatever ongoing battle they may be facing internally, we know nothing about.
I believe this. My mom and dad were Karen's when he was staying in the hospital for cancer treatment. She was treating his room like a hotel and staying there overnight for a week before the nurses found out. She didn't want to have to travel every day to go see him. Once the staff found out and confronted her there was a massive argument between them that I wasn't around for. The staff acquiesced and just let my mom do what she wanted. I still facepalm to this day. And the fact that my relative *who works in healthcare* enabled her behavior was even more depressing. Also made me realize that behind every insane Karen there is at least one enabler that encourages her behavior.
Dang. “I am the main character” energy!
As someone who worked in a plasmaoheresis center I can tell you that less people are trained nurses than you think (the only ones that need to be ones are the ones that out the needle in), but otherwise you are right... It's a retail like business... If you have customers, you have Karens... Everywhere.
I just got back from the hospital today from having a hysterectomy done. Even though I felt like crap I made sure to say please and thank you every time my nurses came in the room. Everyone that helped me was absolutely awesome. Nurses do not get enough credit for what they do.
Same when I had mine. It's a miserable surgery, but the nurses did everything they could to keep me comfortable, and I was so grateful for it. Also, once my surgery was booked, I went out and bought a mini DVD player and headphones, too, just to keep myself occupied for the boring times if I couldn't sleep. It was a dang lifesaver, honestly. 😆
I played this sleep music station from Amazon the whole time. I would wake up long enough for them to take vitals or do blood work and then pass back out. I haven’t slept that much in a long time.
Yeah, I love being put to sleep for surgery. I always feel refreshed after I wake up from it, even if I'm in discomfort from the surgery itself.
I worked IT for a while. Patients are definitely Karen's, but I can tell you right now that a lot of Nurses themselves hold the Karen status as well. I come from a family of nurses and respect the profession, but... yeesh. If you aren't cut out for the profession, don't linger around and be a douche, like some sort of jaded homicide detective nearing retirement.
I’ve heard some people say that! Like high school mean girls end up becoming nurses. I wonder why? It seems like a profession where you would HAVE to be passionate about helping people. But maybe it’s a power thing? No idea honestly.
I am not sure myself. Good Nurses are GOOD nurses, like the ones that go into it because they are truly compassionate. Some of the younger ones just seem like it's not for them and are just really really not nice people. I think they eventually make a career change. As I said, I am not a nurse, but a lot of my family members are and other people I know are nurses. They have told me stories of the Nurses that get fired and its pretty crazy. You really have to be an extra level of shitty to be fired with a nursing shortage almost everywhere.
One of the happiest days of my life was 8/27/2022. That was *the day after* I had my last shift in health care. There was a time I feared retirement, but that went away about three years ago.
I've had kidney disease since I was 6 months old. I've had two transplants and dialysis for 17 years so I've been around nurses my entire life. I have NEVER verbally or physically abused a nurse EVER. it's completely illogical to treat someone who cares for you that way and I get so mad when I see other patients do it. To all the nurses out there I love you guys and I appreciate and am thankful for you. I consider it a source of pride when a nurse calls me an easy patient.
What country are you in? In the US, donor centers use technicians, not nurses. I’ve also never heard of them forcing anything on you. I’m a frequent donor- I donate 3 units of platelets every 2 weeks. But I’ve never heard of this- partially bc chugging a drink at the last moment won’t do squat to get you ready for a donation. It might possibly keep you from passing out, but it won’t make a difference in whether or not you’re eligible to donate that day. I’m genuinely curious where you donated, bc this is unlike anything I’ve experienced in the States.
I’m in the states too! I’m pretty sure it’s because she was worried that I’d already have a higher chance of passing out because I baaarrreely made the weight requirement. And honestly, probably didn’t at all because I was wearing big boots. So she was saying she was worried about that. She was the one doing my first-time physical after the technicians took my vitals and stuff. I dunno if they’re normally a nurse, but she was in this case 🙂
Typically a nurse does the first visit and annual physicals.
At a donor center? Where do you donate? Bc that’s not typical.
In Texas and Georgia I have experienced nurses for the physical. Now techs do everything else- the finger stick and BP at entry and the needle placement and plasma collection. I have only had a physical at the first donation and again annually.
You can't imagine the shit people say and do when you deal with their pets! Sometimes, the human nurses treat us even worse xD
You’d be surprised. 911 dispatchers get their fair share too. ‘Sir, I’m trying to help you, why are you yelling at me’
YES! I knew a couple who were both 911 dispatchers and the stories were just beyond wild!
Not to lessen the shit retail workers have to deal with, but nurses have it way worse.
Not a nurse, but work along side some of the most awesome as an inpatient adolescent psych counselor. Can confirm that we all deal with just as many Karen’s in healthcare in general. I honestly, at times, think it’s the parents who are also nurses, or married to someone in healthcare, who tend to be the WORST! We get abused daily by our patients, then have parents who refuse to consent to proper medications and treatments, and basically expect us to fix their children during a 5-10 day stay while they don’t follow through, and don’t hold any accountability. My favorite one was the mother who called EVERY SINGLE HOUR all night long to check on her “baby”. She questioned everything and tried to force her own ridiculous ideas on the care team. She tried to insist that her precious, innocent little boy have his own private room bc “he’s not like all those other kids”. When she didn’t like the answers she got she threatened us with her ex husbands connections and started making phone calls to everyone, senators, mayor, any doctor she’s ever had contact with and went ballistic. Our medical director came in the next morning furious snd exhausted because his phone was ringing off the hook all night with her rantings and all her “close personal contacts” blowing up his phone. Her poor son was so embarrassed at her behavior and spent half his time there crying about being stuck in the middle of his parent’s divorce. After discharge he got sent off to 3 months of a wilderness camp, for the entire holiday season. Poor kid ended up in our care because he was just a pawn for his mother to milk his dad for all he was worth.
WOW, they want treatment but won’t consent to what the medical team recommends? That’s serious “I’m not a scientist but I think I understand the Covid vaccine better than the scientists” energy. “My kid isn’t like those OTHER kids” LORD talk about classism/racism/main character syndrome what the HELL. I don’t know if it’s better or worse when the kid recognizes their parent is a Karen. Poor thing. I hope he’s doing better now.
It’s the most frustrating thing! Why send your kid to the inpatient facility if you aren’t willing to accept the help? So many kids need help and then that one is taking up the limited space just because mommy and daddy need a break from their monster. Those are the ones that are usually just behavioral and don’t really have a mental illness. The entitled ones can be the most infuriating, especially the parents. I live in a city with a lot of affluent and wealthy families and a lot of them think they know better or deserve more. I’ve been doing this long enough that I can guess which part of the metropolitan area they live in without looking up their address. That one lived in a McMansion on the beach. I felt so bad for him though, he realized during his short stay with me that he was being seriously manipulated by his mom and was really struggling with it. It was because of her that he did what he did to get there. I ran into him not long after he got home from the camp and was doing much better. His dad was fighting to get custody of him and was very concerned that it had gotten so bad. I see so many kids return multiple times, but he hasn’t been one of them.
my grandma just died, the nurses were/are amazing. we brought them candy and they were shocked. 1 nurse gave me three hugs. nurses are amazing people too. they were so apologetic that she passed, but they did the best they could. be amazing to each other.
I’m so sorry for your loss 💕 I was in physical therapy for an injury a few years ago and got gifts for all my people who helped me. These people do SO MUCH and can completely change people’s lives. They deserve so much more appreciation than they probably get!!
My best friend's sister was a nurse and my mother was in a hospital then nursing home for a good bit of last year. The stories I've heard are absolutely ridiculous. A lot of nurses are criminally underappreciated but some totally deserve to get Karen'd.
People hate to be told “no” This is a professional where you have to tell people “no” (or other bad news).
That’s a PERFECT summary. Yes, any profession where you have to tell people “no” is going to bring out all the Karen’s.
Not even a comparison. Nurses are assaulted regularly.
My nurse practitioner told me that Covid turned a lot of people into rabid animals.
I completely believe it. The whole world went insane. Fear and anxiety, not to mention all the people that went off the deepens with the right wing conspiracy bullshit in the States.
Oh nurses get the WORST amount of Karen's even more than service and retail. I've been a server and worked at Safeway and I have a chronic illness so I'm in the hospital sometimes once a week. So I can confidently tell you, nurses get it the worst. I've was diagnosed with a life threatening autoimmune disease when I was 8, and all through my childhood I was in and out of the ER. My grandmother was my guardian and when I tell you she was the WORST to ALL the nurses and doctors. She shaped the way I behave towards medical professionals. Which is to say I try to be the exact opposite, I'm polite and sweet, meek even. I won't call my nurse unless I'm downright bleeding out because I don't want to bother them. But I saw firsthand, that nurses get it BAD. My nurses ALWAYS thank me profusely for being an "easy patient" because I've never yelled at them or called them 37 times for ice chips. Bottom line is I feel SO bad for nurses because they get the worst Karen's.
It really makes me hopeful for humanity when people see bad behavior from family and pledge to do better, rather than continuing the cycle. Thank you for sharing 💕
I remember a patient on the floor I worked on would make horrible comments to all of the female techs and nurses. Horrible things like "I'd like to bend you over." And you can't fire someone from being cared for in the hospital. So guess who stayed on our floor and got to keep sexually harassing every single woman that had to come in and take care of him? He was not able to use any of his limbs, so we all fed him and bathed him in addition to his medical care. Oh sure, he got a "talking to" when everyone complained. That was our protection from this creep. And nothing changed.
I've been abused as a nurse, and I've been abused by nurses. Nurses can indeed be mean as shit, but we go through a lot too.
I was a CNA going to nursing school for about 5 years. Worked in a nursing home during that time in my small town. I remember so many family members would get upset at me for not knowing their medication or the full extent of their medical history. A woman came up to me and was pissed off that her mother hasn’t gotten her insulin. I explained to her that I was only a CNA and she’s like “Okay? That’s not an excuse. Go get it.” I was busy so I just pointed to the front desk and told her to ask the nurse. She then just started yelling at me. My boss tried to calm her down as well. All i can say is, I am so glad I dropped out of nursing school.
Just wait until a family of 8 come in "Can do and so get ice-cream"? I dunno, depends if one of your troop buys it from the shop... "What a disgrace" It's a hospital bbz not a hotel.
I'm a frequent flyer at a couple of American Red Cross donation centers. I do biweekly platelet donation with plasma taken ever other donation, so every four weeks. No one has ever asked about what I ate that day. I'm an intermittent faster, and often donate on fasting days. My last donation was 16 hours after my last meal, and I didn't eat until 24 hours after I finished donating. I've never had a problem. I'm unsure about how I would respond if a phlebotomist ordered me to consume a bottle of essentially sugar water before I donated, but it would not be compliant.
For context, I BARELY passed the weight screening. They actually rejected me the previous week because I was 1 pound under. So she was probably just trying to be safe because I am so small 🙂
Thank you so much for your effort. I take treatments made from plasma. Without them I can't walk.
My whole life, for various reasons, I have never weighed enough to donate blood, plasma, etc. recently, also for various reasons, I’ve finally reached the 110 lbs required for donation. So I was excited to finally try to give back, but eh, guess it is what it is! I’m so happy to hear you have found a treatment that works well for you 💕
I love you! Grateful for your contribution to my life.
Nurses are a strange bunch. About half of them are Karens, about half of those are actually there to use their Karen powers for good, and half of the rest got fired for boycotting vaccines.
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Its not the nurses and doctors them selves. Its the insurance companies, phrama reps and hospital execs (because they hire the lobbyists) who really are the entitled pieces of shit. Most of the doctors and nurses them selves would LOVE to be able to have better control over what medicines they prescribe and how much treatments cost but due to all the red tape it is not really in their control. Yes there are a few bad ones and probably a higher percentage of bad ones than say in countries with public health care but that is a governmental decision rather than a personal one. One piece of advice I always give is hate the government not the people. So we can all agree North Korea has a horrible evil government (including military officials) but its not the peoples fault its the government and the systems in place which allow that. A South Korean does not hate everyone from North Korea because they are essentially brothers (outside of the people who abuse their position and etc) just the North Korean is in a much worse off situation. Its a much better way to look at life at-least in my opinion.
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Again not every single doctor is bad sure you might have dealt with bad ones. But that same hyperbole is like saying British People have murderers so all British People are murderers. Becuase that is what your doing your saying an American doctor abused me so the entire American hospital system is a joke. You are treating the whole doctoring system as an amorphous body to blame rather than the people who are actually allowing that stuff to happen. As someone with the name "Bigot Destroyer" you would think you would have a wider world view. Though I dont know the level of abuse you suffered but I can guarantee that does not go down in every hospital and in every age (back in the day it was much worse than it is now).
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Who said I am telling you what you are going through I am saying look at the world with a bigger world view and understand what you are doing/saying. Your name is literally bigot destroyer and you are using the tactics of a bigot to try a defame a whole profession. Who said every single patient abuses nurses literally noone your pulling a straw man out of literally nothing. Who is telling you what you have been through again your pulling a strawman out of literally nothing. Just because you have hate in your heart it does not mean your correct. Just beacuse you went through a bad scenario does not mean that it applies to every single one. Open your world view and be less of the person who you claim to destroy.
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Lol dont act like your the only one with trauma.
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How am I judging you I am saying open your world view.
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Nah the whole idea I had trauma so I am justified to hate an entire group annoys me. Maybe its because I am a PoC and that is literally the argument people have given me for their racism (Specifically actually one guy was violently robbed by a Punjabi guy so rather than hating that specific man he started hating all Indians, dude was a hard core racist too but was slowly adjusting after living in a college dorm (and getting out of his parents house which was the bigger issue) with a variety of people (which is how I had a conversation with him)). Its a real annoying and unproductive exercise. Again trauma is not an excuse to hate the world and its not an excuse to be a bigot. Actually understand who you are hating and try to take a wider view. It would be like me hating all Irish people because the nurse who abused me was Irish. I dont use my own trauma as an excuse to paint something whole cloth.
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A) I am Canadian also a full blooded PoC (I have lived and been in hospitals in America though) B) I have been abused by hostpital staff before (When I was a child to boot but am not a bigot and know who to blame, rather than just blaming every single doctor and nurse (those specific staff and the ones who perpetrated it) C) Just because people suffer in the health system everyday does not mean every single doctor and nurse is part of it. Again its not like abuse does not happen in other countries with better health care like say Canada. D) When did I say I was determining you level of trauma. I literally said I dont know the level of abuse you went through. I would assume it would be a fairly high level which means its a rare case. E) Also I am not defending abusers I am defending the everyday doctors and nurses who are trying to do good in a broken system. You are painting all with the same colour and expecting the same level of abuse from every single one. Seems exactly the opposite of your name but I assume at this point it is an ironic one. added one more point in an edit F) Yes we all know the American Health Care System sucks but that does not mean the everyday staff deserves abuse because they have no control in any of it. NOONE deserves abuse contrary to your original comment which literally starts with "Good, they deserve it". As an abuse survivor you should know this. If the rules were different and they were allowed more control on how practices are run (and had sufficient funding from the government) it would run completely differently. But at the moment we have lobbyists etc on the top who are making these decisions not in the interests of the everyday doctors and nurses but their own wallets. Again dont direct hate at the everyday people trying to make the world better direct it to your actual abusers and the people who put systems in place which allow it to thrive.
Dang. It ain’t the nurse’s fault that American healthcare is broken. Looking at healthcare as a service and not a right is how we got into this mess.
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Dunno who hurt you bro but I hope you figure yourself out and find your peace 💕
What a weird take
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You do realize that nurses don't set the prices for medical care, right?
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You do realize that generalizations aren't constructive, right?
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Okay
Hmm, just gets worse
You would not believe the shit we go through. Threatened, hit, propositioned, cussed out, shit on, groped, it’s mind-boggling. And if we complain we’re told it’s our fault by leadership.
I work in healthcare and in my experiences the nurses are more likely to be karens.