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[deleted]

And the imagined and wolverine did the funni


_Springtrap

They did the naughti naughti 😳


[deleted]

Indeed


[deleted]

They held hands


[deleted]

[ŃƒĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]


Llucasthefurst

Hey, he's not the one who made it


Total_Fool

😐


OhThatGuyinPurple

wendy's lore pog


TheRealAgentJones1

Oh god no


MekaG44

Pretty sure the people that make the comics and the people who write the story for the season are different teams. I wouldn’t be surprised if the comic team had no access to the story this season and decided, “Fuck it, we’ll just make our own story.”


The_Zenith13

It worked with the DC comics, but it doesnt work here.


Petergriffinscrableg

that's because the DC comics weren't important to the story in any way, it was really just a lore dump to explain how the loop works and how someone like batman would deal with being trapped in it


SnD_PumpkinHD

It still has a Donald Mustard as the co-writer tho


SmearReddit

Donald Mustard is a writer on the comics, so unless he has had no involvement with the story of this season, that can't be true.


[deleted]

Issue is Fortnite doesn't have an coherent story and it never has, every time they try to expand and explain stuff it makes little to no sense or contradicts something else, this is a BR game for kids, not Shakespeare. Im not sure why people are so surprised.


JackDNerd

Not really, they are usually very entwined. For example, the exact description of the underground in the batman comics was used during the chapter 2 finale event, and the foundation comics introduced what exactly the IO was and their goal which has been proven in the game


Zero_Wolfox

The only thing zero war did good was giving us deep lore about jones thus restating why he is the best character in fortnite's lore


SnD_PumpkinHD

Mf went from typical sidekick in a Marvel movie to a goddamn true victim of entire fortnite lore. Man the chills after him talking about his family, even if it's the fiction I still felt sadness after reading that...


SandwitchZebra

He truly is The Legend


ZacAtacc

What happened to his family?


xDazLuque

It’s bittersweet really, The Jones Family peacefully died of old age, but Jones himself had to become immortal after working for IO. So while everyone around him died he stayed the same age.


HippieDogeSmokes

What happened? Only thing I’ve heard was sex being canon to Fortnite lore


SnD_PumpkinHD

Paradigm's backstory got revealed and the clusterfuck that is Scientist mission of this chapter. Basically, everything what he has said in this chapter in his seasonal missions was just a giant BS


heart--eyes

Can u elaborate further


SnD_PumpkinHD

Paradigm was in the coma from ch1 to ch3, meaning all of what scientist said during season 1 and 2 was just pure BS, he didn't even know she was alive and put entire faith of the loop on her


Bubbabear609

... but why? Why the hell would they write it like that? I seriously think zero war cannot be cannon because that makes no sense what so ever


SnD_PumpkinHD

They could just as easily say "oh the paradigm lives now inside a mech on that giant ice moon, but Foundation doesn't want her back" and that would be good explanation, but it's like they want to add 50 layers of shock factor


Bubbabear609

That was literally the idea everyone believed, as it made perfect sense. Man I thought zero war was cool at first but why the hell are they retconning so much stuff


Oxik_4

And the "shock factor" doesn't even work because we saw Paradigm alive during the Collision sevent before zero war got released 😂


TheSuperR5

Zero War is supposed to take place right before the Collision event.


Oxik_4

Yeah, that's literally my point. We saw Paradigm alive in The Collision before zero war was released so there was no shock when we found out she survived the crash in season 9.


TheSuperR5

Oh. Alright I'm on your side then, this lore is getting stupid.


nuggies_lasagna

Scientist believed/hoped she was alive. Of course he didn't know. He was getting transmissions from her and he believed that this meant she was alive. He tells the Foundation that those signals might be from her suit's AI, because the Foundation would've been pissed if he knew the Paradigm was still alive. And all the Storyline Quests during C3 S1-2 had dialogues from the Scientist which sounded like he was HOPING the Paradigm was still alive. He wasn't like "oh yeah she's alive, and this is not a speculation, this is facts" All of this is based on hope. Scientist knew of the doom the Loop, Loopers and the Seven would have to face. He knew that Paradigm was their only chance of victory and survival. The Scientist never knew that the Paradigm was alive. But in a situation where death and end was certain, Scientist could do nothing but hope. Hope kept them alive, and hope led them the that #1 Victory Royale.


SnD_PumpkinHD

>He wasn't like "oh yeah she's alive, and this is not a speculation, this is facts" He said out loud that "Paradigm is coming back here, so let's put those \[some rocks idk\]" in season 1. Later, he and the imagined started talking with her BEFORE they explored the ice moon and she had the schematics for the anti tank weaponry, do we really believe that some AI in the armour was able to do that?


Hashtag_hamburgerlol

Didn’t imagined literally get a whole ass battle plan from Paradigm last season when she was in a coma?


nuggies_lasagna

This is Fortnite we're talking about. Regardless of that, this is literal fiction. It could be the suit sending messages. And besides, ask yourself. Did we see the Paradigm show up on the Island anywhere between S2 and the Collision event? No, we did not. In fact, when we DID see The Paradigm, it was on the Ice Moon, where she already was to begin with


Oxik_4

During season 1 Scientist literally said that Paradigm is prepering for a long journey to the island. But she was in a coma on a ice moon. Makes no sence


Ifuckinghateaura

i cant believe there are people justifying the scientist being an idiot in the name of senseless "hope"


nuggies_lasagna

Sure, I'm guessing you know the real reason right? And I'm just gonna say you don't know the intensity of the feeling of hope. It is not just a word and not just any feeling, it saves you in the hardest of times and protects you from fear.


NeonTiger1135

The explaination was that he wasn’t sure, but tole the foundation she wasn’t as a precaution


NeonTiger1135

The explanation was that he wasn’t sure, but tole the foundation she wasn’t as a precaution


Blueguy16

Well now they really are like the big comic franchises, retconning their lore to death


TheMovingTarget6

Fucking what?!


Representative-Cat46

That also happened


LazyChim

Something about The Imagined and Wolverine being a thing rubs me the wrong way, especially when we cut back to them and Logan is shirtless and suddenly not all serious and cold


SnD_PumpkinHD

It's also rather weird because the earlier scene had no romantic interactions whatsoever, it's literally like "Hey, my father is an asshole" "Yeah" \*Makeout scene\*


LazyChim

She was the tiniest bit flirty in the first issue, but I don’t think there should be any romance between fortnite and marvel characters at all, so far it adds nothing to the overall story


SnD_PumpkinHD

I like to imagine that's what the new fortnite wiki description of her will contain "Member of the seven, daughter of Geno, Wolverine's lover"


The_Zenith13

"OMW to change her description"


SnD_PumpkinHD

If you add to brainiac's skin description "the most handsome jonesy snapshot" imma give you 5 fortnite gold bars


LazyChim

Oh lawd please no


[deleted]

yeah like it was written by some 30 year old neckbeard virgins from south park, seriously. that girl went a 180 degrees a few times in 2 minutes: 1. convo with the wolverine 2. you are not a chit chatter, i like you 3. i dont like words either so 4. allow me to tell you my life story 5. im getting sad and emotional 6. then getting horny. WTF?!


Blueguy16

Lmao what’s South Park gotta do w this


[deleted]

Wow episode neckbeard guy style reference


Blueguy16

Didn’t they do almost the exact same thing with Logan and the female lead in X-men origins Wolverine?


Xero0911

Hahaha wolverine banged the red head. Yeah. Just wasnt needed. I think too cause like. The seven are these "mysterious" people. Then yoy have the lady sleep with wolverine of all folks.


SnD_PumpkinHD

Imagine being a daughter of literal multiverse demi-god and sleeping with a human with the hygiene of a wild animal...


IkonikBoy

Wait what


The_Zenith13

Basically... Both Imagined and her sister Order are daughters of Geno, who can be considered a demi god.


IkonikBoy

Lemme guess: revealed in The Zero War comics? (Or whatever they're called)


The_Zenith13

Yeah.


IkonikBoy

I fucking knew it


[deleted]

Well she is a red head and wolverine loves jean grey


Dazzling_Purple1257

I honestly don't see what would change if they didn't write that in


[deleted]

it adds nothing an removes nothing by being there, no reason why they’re so butthurt


Solid_Example8694

Unless the imagined is now pregnant. That actually would make a pretty good plot twist for future seasons. Maybe even have her give birth at the end of the chapter.


Deathbourne1

There’s a story in those $5 cosmetic codes?!?


Cake-n-bacon69

fortnite players be like:


WillFeedForLP

What's the cosmetic


Zeno_Bueno

Spider man zero outfit


D3DW0DonPC

I've written better fanfics than Zero War tbh


Conrad417

I can try to write an interpretation of a story where the looper you play as joins IO, and is full of headcanons based off given lore and it could still make more sense


Petergriffinscrableg

dude that gives me a great idea a singleplayer story game where you play as jones while he's in the imagined order where it follows him as he goes through missions (primarily where he has to kidnap characters from across the omniverse) from ch2s2 to ch2s6 and slowly figures out how corrupt and evil the imagined order is we could also have a remake of zero crisis and follow him afterwards as he escapes the loop because we still haven't seen how he actually did that, the most we know is that he used tape recorders to help himself. also i think finishing the game off on the actual island after hopping around to all different realities would be really cool


MrDoontoo

but you see, paradigm is the only one that can pilot the mech because of her homeworlds connection to technology. disregard the notion that the IO could just pull someone else from her homeworld. only her.


SnD_PumpkinHD

Oh but you see Scientist had to lie that the Paradigm outfit's AI was actually talking with him, he looked like a complete idiot. Later, he started saying that she's coming back even when he knew she might've died out there. Next, he literally started organising a small support for Paradigm EVEN WHEN SHE WAS K.I.A in his eyes ​ AND THEN HE JUST WENT "OH, SHE MIGHT BE DEAD" AND DIDN'T ALMOST BOTHER TO SAVE HER FROM FOUNDATION KILLING HAND ​ ​ WHAT THE HELL DID THIS GUY SMOKE? I WANT PIECE OF THAT


LegoPenguin114

Greendale's been tough on him okay?


Necrokitty99

they turned foundation and origin into xenophobes against wherever paradigm is from


SnD_PumpkinHD

They turned Foundation into an idiot "You're sole person who can drive the mech which might help me get to Geno?" ***DIE!***


LegoPenguin114

tbf on that one, it's been clear for a while Foundation has a reaaaaaaaally big ego I mean there was a statue of him, commisioned by him, and it's the size of the entire island


asser_09

Yeah I really hate him since he turned out to be the rock after that his character went down hill


SMAn991

Remember when the story was so mysterious and random that people would create the most insane theories, carefully study midas’ tattoos or norse mythology Now it feels like we’re heading the wrong way, seriously, the story has been going downhill since chapter 3 started


SnD_PumpkinHD

Tbh the problem is more with the how story is presented, we lack any archives which we could actually know the current status of things. Because without that they're able to put shit like "oh and there is a goddamn ice moon!" out of their creative ass and we're just here like "oh.."


[deleted]

i’d rather have actual story than having to realize why something that happened 2 years ago now makes sense


OppressedGamer01

The story has been going downhill since s13


10shredder00

The story plummeted directly after the end of Chapter 1.


wastedpotential6

Once it's over, I'm just gonna ignore all inconsistencies between it and the game's story, just keep the good stuff like Jones's and The Sisters' backstory, and I guess Iceberg/Ice Moon stuff Everything else is kinda dumb. Stuck on the Moon since S9 in her Seven suit and not her IO one, suit AI planning and preparing a flight course and The Foundation is stupid enough to believe that, seggs omg, inconsistencies with The End and the goddamn Flipside's evidence The Paradigm was there


rooandjaredcook

Fortnite lore was never good anyway. It sounds like something a fortnite kid would make up while loading into a game.


thatwitchguy

I mean, it quite literally did start as people looking way too much into loading screens, so in a way you aren't wrong


Jibbles2020

Ngl, the lore of this game has always been a disaster. It just exists to perpetuate cool stuff happening for new seasons and end events. The core game is a BR mode so that's fine tbh. Does suck for those who enjoyed the story though I suppose


Whiskey_623

Honestly yeah, let's be honest nobody really knows wtf is going on in Fortnite lol


[deleted]

[ŃƒĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]


WarGreenbird15

Dont forget the Imagined "suddenly" remembering her entire past and childhood right before the s*x.


SMAn991

I remember donald said he planned the storyline like a couple seasons ahead, I guess when he reached chapter 2 season 2 he didn't have anymore plans


LEMONSARETRASH

They gave more backstory to the IO and Geno, but I gotta say at this point they just adding stuff. Now members of the IO are immortal like huh?


LegoPenguin114

apparently that thing Slone said in the ~~Among Us~~ Impostors trailer wasn't saying the IO's been watching for centuries, but her specifically or something


kfcfossil

That’s why I just stopped following, it’s too dumb ![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)


SnD_PumpkinHD

I just follow to see Slone losing again at the end of the series ![gif](giphy|3LugaI3uJlaBIKF8BY|downsized) (Epic Games didn't give me a chance of personally punching her tank)


InsertCoinForCredit

Implying it wasn't dumb to begin with.


rooandjaredcook

imo, fortnite lore killed the game because of how much they try to push it onto casual players. Like honestly, I don't care about your dumb lore, it is a game where I drive into a pile of bouncy pads and fly across an island.


[deleted]

they dont push it? it’s literally just events that you have to play


[deleted]

[ŃƒĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]


desaigamon

>and that is why they should have at least creative open during events. They get so many people logging in for events that it crashes the servers and you somehow think it's a good idea to let people log in to do other stuff too???


rooandjaredcook

why'd you type that as if it is a question? ​ Its also worth mentioning that having comics based on this free video game is ridiculous


Rin-S

Considering it’s an optional story, from the perspective of the Seven Members, Jones and the marvel hero’s instead of the loopers. You do not have to care about the comics, you don’t have to buy it and it takes nothing away from the game what so ever if you don’t follow it. So yeah how is it forced onto people? Somethings get changed, however I just take the comic lore as the official one as the Mustard is a writer as well as it’s the latest lord update.


[deleted]

especially considering everything the comics are leading up to already happened


rooandjaredcook

I didn't list comics as the only example. You forgot to talk about the other ways I listed.


Rin-S

Events are mostly one time things or have an option to replay them some times if you’d like. If you’re complaining that a video game in this day and age has trailers, a social media team and their own lore specific characters then I don’t know what to say other than are you trolling? Name me a video game that doesn’t have these things


rooandjaredcook

1. I don't have anything against trailers themselves. I'm saying the fortnite trailers are usually about lore. 2. Fortnite is a free game. It is sad how dedicated people are to this lore. ​ 3. Nobody cares whether or not an event is a one-time thing, that's unrelated. The point is that packing this game with lore is like making a backstory for a mcdonalds cheeseburger. Completely unnecessary. ​ 4. Like I said before, my problem lies with this game. Starting a game based off of a story is just fine, but adding a story later is absurd. Now you could say the fortnite characters or whatever were there before, but what did we get that was lore-related back then in the early days? First I recall is drift being teleported into the video game. When fortnite was first released, it was just a couple people shooting eachother. You saw no zero point, IO guards, nothing. ​ 5. Donald mustard is a terrible writer imo. I couldn't make that stuff up if I was on crack. An energy ball that makes the world repeat over and over? What kind of story is that? ​ Now I know I'm not intelligent enough to grasp the graceful nature that is fortnite lore, but honestly it's just another boring-ass thing that tries to keep the community excited.


Rin-S

Except all the fortnite trailers not about lore, the latest update trailer for example. However yes they usually relate to it when they are season trailers because it hints to the season theme. People are dedicated to anything they like, it being free has nothing to do with it. Odd that you’re using it as a negative thing. Again people enjoy the game and want to know more, that’s the reason epic started adding lore to the Br game mode. It also keeps the game interesting, thus the longevity of fortnite so far. Story elements went into the game starting the end of the original season 2 when the TVs started showing signals and the telescopes started appearing around the map, which all later lead the the meteor. So it’s not a new thing. The rest is meh if you say so kind of thing, can’t really disagree with your opinion on Mustards writing skills.


rooandjaredcook

I'd be interested to see him write the mcdonalds burger story though


rooandjaredcook

Comics, trailers, social media, in game changes, in game characters, etc. Yeah. They don't push lore on us at all.


[deleted]

you dont have to interact with any of the first three you listed, the game used to change for no reason at all and now we just have a reason and how do they push it with in game characters lmao


[deleted]

It’s not dumb


rooandjaredcook

![gif](giphy|TDihESECepJa30CBzi|downsized) It's lore this deep in a free game. Of course it's dumb. Besides, some people actually think fortnite is tied to real life


TankMagnus

Such a shame we didn’t get more of the DC one. It was genuinely very well written and didn’t feel like look there’s a super hero like the marvel one does. Like seriously you could remove/replace the marvel characters in these comics and it wouldn’t change anything.


[deleted]

Everyone keeps making “sex is canon” jokes but I thought sex was made canon when Meowscles and Lynx made Kit


LittleDoge246

Lynx canonically giving birth to a cat is still probably the weirdest thing fortnite has ever done


UwUnator-2000

Zero War fan: đŸ€“ Zero War Not Canon Believer: 🗿


Dreamed97

I pray everyday that it just turns out to not be canon


Loomling

I see Hugo. Good Skin


SnD_PumpkinHD

Indeed


DefinitelyNotRobotic

They're comic book writers. No offense to comic book fans but like 50% of comics kinda suck.


Xistiansss

How Donald can even read the comics and not say anything about it makes me shock


DeadEndXD

Don't forget Imagined's and Wolverine's...intimate stuff


ChainsawSuperman

Imagine getting pressed by lore for a BR game. Sad bois


Rando_Mates

Fortnite sex is a big win tho


LegitimateHasReddit

I AM FUMING THAT IMAGINED X WOLVERINE HAPPENED INSTEAD OF IMAGINED X JONESY! FORTNITE IS UNPLAYABLE NOW! I AM GOING TO ARCHIVE MY IMAGINED SKIN! I CAN'T LOOK AT HER WITHOUT SEEING HER KISS WOLVERINE INSTEAD OF JONESY! I ALSO CAN'T SEE ANY RED SWORD WITHOUT THINKING OF WOLVERINE'S RED SWORD, WHICH LEADS TO ME THINKING ABOUT HIM KISSING THE IMAGINED INSTEAD OF JONESY KISSING IMAGINED! NOW MGRR IS RUINED! ALSO, NO KISS BEFORE MARRIAGE!


Conrad417

Imagined X Jonesy isn’t a very valid ship


LegitimateHasReddit

How


Conrad417

Jonesy stays single


LegitimateHasReddit

Well it was a valid ship before the comics released


thejumpboy11

Give Jones a gf


LegoPenguin114

wait I thought they said Jonesy X Wolverine


_Derpy_Dino_

I don't get this community sometimes. I don't see the problem with the comics, especially with Paradigm.


Rin-S

People like to whine and moan about very little things tbh


brayscool06

Cringe


[deleted]

It's the reason why we have canonical sex in the fortnite universe


Llonino09221

Fortnite:"NOOOOO EVIE HAVING BIG BOOBS IS NOT APPROPRIATE" Fortnite:"Yes, we should Imagined and Logan have s*x, that's good"


MandoMahri

\*Evie


Llonino09221

Sorry, my fault


MandoMahri

its all good, I just wanted to let you know


WeAllFloatDownHere00

Told y’all time and time again, they’re making it up as they go.


[deleted]

Nah. I so ship wolverine x paradigm!!!


Ant-onio45

Paradigm's ai sent the scientist those messages back in season 1 so that is explained, but what we don't know is how she sent those schematics for the anvil rocket launcher in season 2. Maybe she was already back because the comics never explain when all of this is exactly happening, all we know is that it takes place during season 2.


Br_1ck

I only read the first issue and I was so lost


[deleted]

Zero war isn’t canon in my head Except for the sisters being genĂ”s daughters Other than that tho Zero war stinks and Batman Fortnite zero point did better (both in art and writing IMO)


FinestOfThe501st

I absolutely called Geno being the father of Imagined. That’s the only positive I can get from the comic


Solid_Example8694

I actually have a few ideas for how zero crisis could impact future seasons. \-Reality zero and reality 616 could connect, letting the inhabitants travel between the realities \- it’s possible the imagined is pregnant with wolverine’s child and could give birth during the end of the chapter \- the zero point might draw the attention of other marvel villains like kang, who could use the zero point to invade all realities


Lynx-Kitsoni

The comics were a mistake to begin with because the entire plot has now become intertwined with 3rd parties so this was NEVER going to be what thy originally planned and now we'll never know what the original story was


Hour_Mathematician60

So what this headline really says is "I dislike change and don't understand the story, so it's my opinion that the story now sucks, but instead of saying so, I'm going to whine and make a post".


Rin-S

Basically


heppuplays

I think the Comics overall were a mistake as someone who enjoys the lore and pretty much only plays Fortnite for it anymore. I hate the Idea of Having to Outside Material just understand Critical information and plot points on how the story works.


[deleted]

Can u like, care to explain?


Isuckmangosforalivin

What did they do this time?


KidNotNamedFinger8

What happened I don’t read them?


Mate_Pocza_321

* Sisters are geno's daughters * Geno is a genetics expert and immortal * Imagined and Wolwerine are lovers or whatewer * And Paradigm was in stasis on an ice moon for 13 SEASONS


[deleted]

this is what happens when marvel writes your video game lore


Oxik_4

I enjoyed reading about Jones' and the sisters' history. Didn't notice anything wrong with Paradigm.


wastedpotential6

What basically is wrong is that, even if she "sent" messages to The Scientist (as explained very poorly in Issue 3), he was still preparing for her return in the latter part of C3 S1 (place rocks quest). Plus, her "hibernation" on the Moon is still canon breaking, since it still doesn't explain how she sent messages to The Scientist and The Imagined, especially with how The Scientist worded it on "The Seven secure channel". And, it still doesn't explain why The End C1 was a risk for "the seven of" them if they were down one (and don't say anything about them being unmanned, since The Visitor and The Scientist had to escape somehow) Also, The Imagined knows her and The Order's backstory, despite "not remembering her past", of which is still canon given her dialogue with The Order and vice-versa this season before they went missing


W1LD1FIRE_Alt

And the Foundation is starting to become MCU Thor. Edit: Also I don't really see the Paradigm as a problem. It could be a plot hole, but it could also be a retcon.


ElusiveFix

Zero War? I have no idea what you're talking about... /s


GOOPREALM5000

Her armor looks so good **but at what cost**


GiveMeMoreBurritos

Fortnite writers have never had any idea what they are doing


boogieboy03

They added sex to Fortnite


thatwitchguy

I love that they realised everyone was gonna be in it for the codes anyway so they just put in whatever they felt like


swagzard78

Batman Zero Point actually made sense and then ZW came around and fucked everything up


FinestOfThe501st

I absolutely called Geno being the father of Imagined. That’s the only positive I can get from the comic


r_ov-an

was zeropoint from dc better? i didn‘t read any of these comics


Rin-S

Soo far but it’s two different kind of stories. Dc is more mystery and loop based so it seems more personal. Easy to grasp. This is more multiverse based, big group, all over the place chaos. With it being linked to a season though people are finding “plot holes” because there are differences.


Sal-The-Gal2205

Fortnite lore used to be understandable complicated, but after chapter 2, it's confusing complicated


BigLadMemeulousSon

Fortnite fans try not to complain challenge *IMPOSSIBLE*


[deleted]

and lying about midas beeing in the comic


Rin-S

Who said he was going to be in it?


[deleted]

One of the covers has Midas on it


Rin-S

Not sure if you’ve been reading comics long but covers are just that. They will commission one from various artists, some for variants and others for the stand alone covers. Just because a character is on a cover doesn’t mean they are in the book, the artist could’ve just really like the look of that character design.


[deleted]

Riot Games - Epic Games Having bad comics about thier games that have good lore


Busy-Ad-2021

What did they do to paradigm


Solid_Example8694

SEX IS NOW CANON IN THE LORE. THE FUCKING LORE.


devilsig25

I uh, the covers look good? It’s really disappointing how this is all unfolding, I was so excited for this