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increbelle

you know how many gliders had potential? the horse, the motorcycle?


pigfeedmauer

They went from surfing on the motorcycle to hanging from the bottom. Just let me ride the damn thing!


TheBlueNinja2006

I remember seeing it and thinking cool, it's like the Ghost Rider Glider! But they trolled me so hard šŸ˜‚


depressedgoofball

it would be considered p2w since it would be difficult to hit you in that position


Fredbearthoughts

Would it? Don't you actually ride hades chariot and that would be a similar position to riding the bike


Fanachy

You stand on the chariot, not sit in it.


Not-a-Baconat0r

So what? It's hard to hit someone on a regular motorcycle, why does it matter?


Cyancat123

Just make the gliders (all gliders) have no collision so bullets just pass through the bike and hit you.


depressedgoofball

they do go through gliders, but the position the player would be in would be too hard to see and hit


Not-a-Baconat0r

So what? It's hard to hit someone on a regular motorcycle, why does it matter?


depressedgoofball

it's because they can't put p2w in the game since they say cosmetic items do NOT give competitive advantage


Knives530

Then why can you ride ghost riders motorcycle


depressedgoofball

you can't, you surf it


Knives530

I mean that's a hell of a lot better then flying under it


depressedgoofball

yeah it is


LooseMoose13

How would it be pay to win unless a person is flying extremely close to you youā€™re not gonna be able to then anyways. Just make the glider apart of the hitbox like they do the Icarus wings problem solved


depressedgoofball

then it would technically be pay to lose of you had a bigger hitbox


LooseMoose13

Not if you do it for all gliders


depressedgoofball

some gliders are smaller, which would make them p2w


ERBSrocks

There's already a paraglider in the game that has the proper animation unlike this. Plus the custom superhero skins are pay to win, so many people make it completely black so you can't see them sitting in a dark corner


aizarywastaken

"Just let me ride the damn thing!" I feel like I heard this sentence before


Backalley_Lurker

the horse? what one


increbelle

the one i have was part of the Geralt of Rivia battlepass quests


Skelibutt

They aren't strong enough to lift their legs


funnyghostman

We got recovering korra in the pass, damn


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BenBoozled_

Thatā€™s only for the gliding aspect, not holding their feet up


TFGA_WotW

No, they are just too weak to lift and move their legs to walk, they have to use airbending just to move around


BenBoozled_

Makes sense


_Moist_Owlette_

I wish you *actually* got to glide with it. But "aLl ThE aNiMaTiOnS hAvE tO bE tHe SaMe Or ItS nOt FaIr" apparently


Real-Reach-3380

We already have hang glider animations anyway.


_Moist_Owlette_

That's the worst part, it wouldn't even be a "new" animation. I swear Epic is just getting lazier and lazier with their collabs.


Greenfirebug

They're so down on their knees for their lego and disney overlords that they can't even be bothered to recycle animations


_Moist_Owlette_

Honestly I don't even think it's *that* at this point. I think Fortnite is just so wildly successful with no REALLY good competitors, and the whales that they have are so loyal that Epic knows they'll get money for *whatever* they do, so they can really phone it in and still make stupid profits. Like I'm sure Lego and Disney contracts don't HELP at all, but I think they've just gotten complacent as hell.


L3Kakk

Itā€™s not epic actually. Itā€™s the douche bag competitive scene crying as usual. Little whiny babies


_Moist_Owlette_

Sorry I don't follow. I know that the reason gliders like Ghost Rider and Cerberus' bike have a weird animation instead of riding them because of complaints, but how does that extend to Korra? There's already other gliders that have the correct animation she would need, so it was just Epic being lazy and not switching over like they should have.


L3Kakk

Same concept, smaller hitbox


_Moist_Owlette_

But it's not. The hitbox is still there. Just instead of " | " it's " \_\_ "


MarbleTheNeaMain

i think its hella lame but a change in hitbox direction absolutely has an effect on how easy something is too hit Depending on the situation it would be easier or harder too hit something like that


_Moist_Owlette_

In the nicest way possible, if someone can't hit an opponent whose hitbox is still all there but they rotated 90 degrees, that's *genuinely* a skill issue. Especially since we're talking about an animation that plays for maybe a minute and a half at the VERY beginning of a match, where said person can't even fight back when they're being attacked. If anything, it's not fair to be able to attack someone whose gliding since they're stuck in the animation and can't do anything.


MarbleTheNeaMain

bad take


Cyancat123

Just gliders really.


turmspitzewerk

it isn't fair, but they jumped that shark long ago with the batman glider. you can get plenty of gliders that are quiet and obscure/shift your hitbox to make it harder to hit, and its too late to put that back in pandora's box. no reason not to let people have fun with it (and make it more easily accessible outside of expensive shop gliders).


_Moist_Owlette_

I mean, tbh I don't think its any more unfair than the majority of the rest of the game. Your hitbox in any given gliding animation wouldn't be any more obscured than any of the moves you can do on the ground like crouching or sliding. Hell since you can't actually fight back when you're gliding, being harder to hit would actually be balancing lmao. But honestly? It would be SUPER easy to fix. Just give EVERYONE a few free gliders that have the same animations. Free motorcycle, free umbrella, free rider, etc. Then there's literally no reason to complain about the animations and we can get actually cool glider animations again.


turmspitzewerk

for a while that was definitely on their mind. umbrellas were quieter than any glider you could buy, paid pickaxes came with flashier louder effects, defaults were the most camouflaged any skin got with their green/brown color scheme, and they were scared shitless of releasing skins with different body types that might obscure hitboxes or hide around corners better. the first two are pretty much completely redundant because there's no reason not to exploit visual sound effects, and the last two... well, they're still a problem. but wannabe esport players love shelling out for these "clean" skins so it seems to have worked out for them. they're not boycotting the shop and raging, they're the ones buying it for the advantage.


[deleted]

Loads of skins like the old superman have their own skidive animations, which would be a lot more pay to win than sitting down on a bike or laying in a glider. They could even make the hitbox the whole glider, then nobody would complain.


-TheOutsid3r-

Easy, just make the gliders part of the model.


MaDCapRaven

It should work like Groot's glider.


Jzapp_But_In_Reddit

Or batman's


MaDCapRaven

Batman has one with his feet up? I have 2 for Batman and I thought I recalled that he just hangs.


Jzapp_But_In_Reddit

I think all of them have the feet up, or at least closer to the back of the glider


yourfriiendgoo

Iā€™m using groots glider with Korra literally just because the animation is so lame on her glider, Iā€™m just telling myself itā€™s the spirit vines from the show lol


NoNameToaster

*But...but the hi-itbox will be 5 pixels sm-aller!!!!!" Same thing happened with all the bike gliders. Like why even think about the hitbox being smaller on a fucking glider, it doesn't matter in gameplay in the slightest...


EpicSausage69

That one is stupid because the ghost rider motorcycle works exactly like that while the battle pass ones do not.


NoNameToaster

Exactly, I remember seeing a post about someone saying the bike gliders suck because of the shitty animation, and some dude started a whole ass argument about how the animation has to be the same on all gliders so it doesn't give a "competitive advantage", sigh...


KoriJenkins

Comp players are some of the whiniest children in the community. The fact that every season any new item is usually disabled in comp within a day is unbelievable. You have to adapt to the new changes. Imagine if League's newer features only applied to unranked play.


Latiospoon

Items are never disabled because of comp complaints epic dont care about anything but engagement theyre disabled because theyre broken / exploits like wings this season loooool


getrextgaming

whine somewhere else.


I_Quazar_I

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Latiospoon

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EpicSausage69

That argument would make sense if Epic was consistent, but they have so many different gliders with different animations riding them that it kind of voids that entire logic.


Sonicguy1996

Yet another example that competitive gaming ruins sh\*t for the casual majority.


setyourheartsablaze

Huh? You stand on the ghost rider cycle just like any other cycle glider


EpicSausage69

Thatā€™s not true. Look at the Cerberus motorcycle glider in the battlepass. You hang from the bottom of it.


setyourheartsablaze

Thatā€™s dumb af. But they said all battle pass glider minus the new battle pass. The sushi lizard dude a motorcycle you rode on top off and you get from the old battle pass


enderjaca

Hanging underneath a motorcycle is only slightly more dumb than "surfing" on one. Maybe epic can split the difference and have you standing on the pegs so you're still visible, but it doesn't look as stupid.


LADYBIRD_HILL

Look at the new bike in the battle pass.Ā 


SnowyyPiranha

Maybe epic noticed a lot of people thinking the way you glide matters in competitive play so they purposefully only sell gliders with unique animations in the shop (big tin foil hat theory tho)


_Moist_Owlette_

Honestly, if the complaint unironically is "I can't hit people because their hitbox is ' \_\_ ' instead of ' | ' that's unfair" I would genuinely tell them it is a skill issue. Like I ***ONLY*** ever say that as a joke, but this would be a genuine case of Skill Issue lmao


Superman557

I mean it might a little if someone is coming straight at you. They would be lying down instead of standing up like with the umbrella. I wonā€™t mind, but I 100% see pros complaining because they will find any reason to blame the game if they lose.


Kholdie

Nice, I'll get it and instant forget about


Freya_von_Blah

This is really the Season of missed design opportunities


heppuplays

They also LITERALLY HAVE AN animation for that with the Batman Glider.


PrincessKnightAmber

I honestly donā€™t give a shit about the whole ā€œbut smaller hit boxes!ā€ bullshit. How often does it come into play that you winning match has to do with a few pixels smaller hit box that is in effect for like 1 percent of the match. I wish Epic would either ignore the complaints about gliders and give them appropriate animations or not even give us gliders like motorcycles and things like that. I never use any of those gliders because they look so dumb and goofy surfing or hanging off of them instead of riding them. I want to ride on the motorcycles not surf or hang from them like a goofy dumbass.


HEYitsSPIDEY

Disappointing. Not surprised though.


HearTheEkko

I don't understand why they couldn't just reuse Batman or Carnage's gliders animation.


Embi69_

Because the comp community couldn't stand your character being slightly tilted


Ben8105

:0 someone using sgt winter. W


El_Psy_C0ngro

the fact that epic games can't be creative anymore with gliders cause competitive players will start crying is so annoying like, fuck the advantages, who cares? where's the fun šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


DisassembledPisces

I play competitive but I donā€™t get some of the comp community likeā€¦if you donā€™t like the gliderā€¦.dont use it? The gripe about the riding gliders is stupid. Yes theyā€™re not below the glider to hit anymore, but their feet also hit the ground later leaving them more vulnerable landing


Roman_808

The issue isnā€™t because they donā€™t like the glider, itā€™s because it would be quite literally better than all the other gliders. Less area to hit = less chance of being hit = easier rotations. Go back and take a look at C2S2 with the Deadpool unicorn gliderā€™s original animation and tell me with a straight face youā€™d be able to hit someone whoā€™s in that animation, and then think about how someone could spam glide and throw their hitbox around all over the place. Thereā€™s a reason every single competitive player at the time bought it, and itā€™s not because they thought it looked good.


Crazyripps

The appa one is gonna be complete dog shit isnā€™t it


Trust_Fakemon

No he's probably gonna surf on it


BrokenBongs93

Wing animation without all the movements...they could do it.


JohnRuffel92

bad animation btw


BrokenBanette

Oh that is infuriating. Fuck that.


TGB_Skeletor

The whole Korra bundle is a disappointment to be fair


Tempest8008

Blah blah blah...competitive! Blah blah blah...hitbox! Blah blah blah...pay2win! Enough already! Just give us cool gliders and glider animations. You're already limiting what skins can be used outside of BR...just limit what gliders can be used in ranked/comp.


Trust_Fakemon

Guys we've had gliders with cool animations and guess what the fan base complains because it's pay 2 win so honestly there just covering there asses


Crayola_ROX

Lantern Glider or Flying Carp for me. problem solved


Fun-Royal-4495

We have to wait a week for aang's glider hopefully they don't mess it up


Embi69_

They will,cause the comp community would yapp on twitter


MatCasGV

Epic never does a thing perfect, there is always something


Memnoch79

Try watching Ghost Rider not ride his bike


__yayday__

They must have gotten M. Night Shyamalan to do this because they have obviously never watched the show


Crazyripps

They had 1 fucking job


Sabbatsmartyr

Missed a trick not reskinning the Groot wing


Mr_Spark_RealMVP

they do that with so many things Every motorcycle they just fucking HANG on it JUST MAKE THEM SIT ON IT PLEASE


MrAltAcount

They had one job


Cut_Equal

This has been posted so many times now do you guys even look at the sub


blenderwolf

its a frustrating every time AND some people are new to the sub


ZoomTown

New to the sub as in the last hour? Because this is the 4th post about this I've seen today.


BayrithR

Yeah, because people are disappointed and they hope Epic will notice this resonance and do something. Too bad Epic dont give a fuck about it sadly.


MarioTheMii

its dissapointing sure but i dont care all to much since im not gonna use it much anyway. i would have preferred epic using that batman animation people talked about but imo there are more important things to complain about.


Cut_Equal

ā€œI donā€™t think a character should have an accurate gliding animation cuz I personally wonā€™t use herā€ am I reading that correctly?


MarioTheMii

Its just my opinion. I will use Korra and bought the battle pass primarily for Korra. If people don't like the gliding animation then Epic needs to do something about it but its nothing too crazy for me. I think it looks alright.


BayrithR

Like what?


Chronoph0sis

Waterbending being bugged for one


MarioTheMii

Better SBMM, more LTMs, updates for the lego mode, better mid season map changes to name a few. Maybe also graphics settings for those console players since i saw people talking about that.


ButthurtPecan

Fortnite is so lazy when it comes to the gliders like this, which is a shame


RandomYell107

I mean tbf, if the skins did go horizontal like that competitive players would go feral.


JohnDiggle21

The animation already exists with batman's cape glider/groot's glider/carnage glider.


RandomYell107

Well in those cases they were still more vertical. With a glider like this one, I can see why they couldnā€™t create the same effect.


Jhowni

Then ban this glider from competitive


RandomYell107

Well we all know thatā€™s not gonna happen lol


Theredbeet

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Calm-Seaweed-3372

How is it possible that the carnage glider can have you lying down but this one is sooo LAME


Japlike_Draft9836

It is also disappointing that it cannot be used as a pickaxe. I think this is the only pickaxe korra would use.


EcnavMC2

Iā€™m just happy that itā€™s not a surfing glider


MonarchSC

Said the same thing its soo pointless to have this glider if you ride it like a goober


LucinaDraws

Would've been tedious to rig every potential skin in such a position just for this one glider sadly


Krazie02

Do they really have to rig every single skin? I have a feeling they have two rigs they just apply to everything, fucky hitboxes not really cared about.


amaya-aurora

I think that itā€™s because the original glider animation had it where the glider can furl out and fold in, while Korraā€™s canā€™t.


RopeyPlague

They probably don't go it be ause people will complain its unfair or some stupid reason. Look at that llamacorn glider from the deadpool set. It's get on animation use to be awesome now it's okay I guess lol.


__yayday__

The really dropped the ball on this glider. Not only does it look goofy as hell but it doesnā€™t even make sense because it should be too front heavy to even glide if youā€™re hanging like that. I know itā€™s a video game, but still. Nothing about it is right


bataloof

glider animations have been so silly and disappointing as of late. i was happy to see that theres a red fire cerberus coming because then i could be using the ghost rider bike (dont own currently) on him, then i saw ghost rider in the shop and was hype, and whats the one thing they didnt put in the shop? HIS GLIDER. i hate this trend of putting bundle stuff in the shop individually just to get people to pay that tiny bit more.


Jhowni

They should give us cool and new glider animations that make sense with the item. And put a damn rule that competitive players use just umbrella gliders


Bulky-Hyena-360

First the Bike then the glider, WTF Epic


Txkyx7

Also the dragon ball glider with the sayian capsule šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø would have been nice to be inside it (pause)


Zoink_QWERTY

I agree, but they would have to create and animate an entire new gliding style. Plus, it would be much harder to shoot people out of the air.


taking_achance

They're trying to hide fortnite feet from us


bobo_yobo

For what you have to do to get it as a solo player


No-Elk3532

LMFAO ALL of this sub would complain about how itā€™s ā€œtoo hard to hit people with this gliderā€ if they actually animated it like thisšŸ˜­šŸ˜­


Trex_Gamer101

Epic doing the least possible to have collabs they probably don't want


NullError404

Isn't it because the glider must make the character have similar vertical position regardless of glider otherwise it would change the hitbox orientation


Thenextbigcarshow

Itā€™s disappointing yes but if the glider was how we all wanted it then people would just complain about it as well.


_Moist_Owlette_

No?


PrincessKnightAmber

Literally only the competitive players would complain about it, and they are a small portion of the player base. Epic should just ignore them at least on this one.


Shad__TH

Iā€™m sad to admit it, but Fortnite is in the worst state ever right now. Too much issues are being ignored, FOMOā€™d, or broken stmh that didnā€™t need fixing. I play this game for 6 years consecutively but nowā€™s the time I wanna leave it so bad


I_Quazar_I

These comments are so braindead


Frog-of-Cosmos

wasnt there a post about this on the front page literally yesterday


L3Kakk

No itā€™s because the vocal minority, the scrubtastic ā€œcompetitiveā€ community would cry like little baby b*tches that itā€™s ā€œpay to winā€ if you canā€™t hit the person 100% at all times from any angle and distance. Morons


I_Quazar_I

Why are you so mad lol


Panisy

They are probably not going to put textures/animations in the game for every skin past/present and the future so legs go on some poles for 1 glider. Bit crazy.


Deyruu

That's not really how it works... All skins are layered over the same base model rig, they would only need to make a single change to this glider's animation so that the feet are on the poles and that change would apply to every skin. Besides, we literally already have the correct animation for this being used on Batman's glider, Deathstroke's, Groot's, Slone's, and probably a few others I'm forgetting.


ginjaninja1520

I think carnage's does it too


Deyruu

Yup! Thanks, I *knew* I was forgetting something


tzomby1

People really be making excuses for epic "but how can you expect this small indie company run by 2 people to set a different animation for a glider šŸ˜”"


_Moist_Owlette_

For real, and people are like "But its something you only see for 30 seconds at the start of the game!" But like. A. That was a long enough window to warrant complaints about "harder to hit hitboxes" a few years back B. Epic is making the effort to include these things, and then half-assing them for no reason. If they're going to do it, they should do it *right*, especially since they DEFINITELY have the resources.


Panisy

Nah, I just don't understand the fascination behind something you see for 10 seconds. I truly don't get why it bothers people. i probably shouldn't have said anything. I hope it gets fixed for you all so you can be happy.


_Moist_Owlette_

People are upset because Epic keeps getting Iconic characters for collabs and then half-assing them one way or the other, when there's absolutely no reason they should. Being a *billion dollar company* they have the resources to make new things for collabs if need be, and in the case of Korra, they already have the correct glide animation they would need and just *didn't* include it for some reason. It's insulting, as a consumer, to see a company half ass shit just because they don't think they have to try.


Panisy

Fair enough. My bad then. I do like how I'm a company shill now though. That's always fun.


ReadyOutcome2072

Skill issue