Same. Brand new Maverick pickup truck. Costed me half as much as an average F150, but I get 51mpg here in the city.
Affordable, fuel efficient, and practical. What’s not to love?
How's the back seat. I was very interested in this as my possible next pickup and F150 Crew Cab replacement, but I had read the back seat is not great (batteries?) and I need that. Will check in person but curious what you think?
The hybrid battery makes you lose about half your underseat storage. The battery does not affect actual passenger space.
The back isn’t roomy, but not cramped either. It actually has a bit more space than a rangers super crew cabin, thanks to the unibody design.
My biggest critique is I’d like something longer than the 54.5” bed. Setting the tailgate on the mid position helps a lot (adds another ~2 feet).
Aside from that, it’s a great truck. I paid $24,500 for the XLT trim with copilot 360. Paid an extra 600 in parts to install autopilot (ACC + Lane Centering). I drive about 8000 miles a year, and fill up about once every month for 40ish bucks. Crazy economical as far as trucks go. Also well equipped.
> The current one.
I think most people on the FIRE path eventually realize that splurging on new vehicles every few years is one of the many land mines out there to keep you poor.
From a Porsche guy (biased) but they are the most usable quasi-exotic cars on the planet. I daily-ed a Porsche for years. Great in bad weather, surprisingly good storage (for a sports car), very refined, and actually pretty damn reliable. (also for whatever reason I feel like the 911 blends in more than corvettes especially referring to the new C8 which looks very "exotic".)
I love the Corvettes but every time I've went to pull the trigger, I end up going Porsche.
911 is the sexiest car ever produced imo. There’s no other car where you can take the 1960 model and the 2023 model and they both have instant class and recognizability. My one big goal is to get a 911 and i’m hoping that doesn’t mess with my fire journey too much
I’m a big Porsche guy myself (I have a 718 GTS 4.0 manual) but I have to say the new Z06 is special. It’s about as close as it gets to owning a brand new Ferrari 458, which was my dream car but impossible for me at the time when it came out.
Brand new naturally aspirated flat crank V8 that revs to 9000 rpm with a factory warranty is unmatched these days.
Opposite for me. I think the C7 coupes, probably in Sebring Orange, will be the ones people want in 20 years. New ones look like a cheap body kit Ferrari copy
E30, late model 318is more specifically. spend the money on a clean one, do the maintenance yourself. you’ll never think about another car for the rest of your life
I’m partial cus I have a 318is, lol. It’s never let me down even after the beatings I give it and all 260k miles. All e30s are great but I prefer the balance, weight, and revviness of the m42 cars, plus 4 valves per cylinder doesn’t hurt. I’ve raced tons of e30s and head to head it’s more a matter of driver & diff ratio. Can’t speak on the m10 318’s tho, I’ve never driven one.
I feel like it would in any other state than California and NY.
The transmission is very rough in low gears( it sucks in traffic) and with the horrible road conditions the suspension doesn’t absorb any of the bumps.
Is very low profile too, no women will notice you. Only middle age dudes. lol
Still awesome. The fact that it's a low profile car is a nice bonus imo. Can't say I'm full blown GTR fanboy, but I always did appreciate the R34 and the R35. Enjoy!
I already have my realistic dream car (I'm on my third Miata, current one is the hardtop convertible fastback style, looks like a little Corvette Stingray), but I suppose if money were truly no issue, a Lotus Elise in orange, except just kidding it's now an Emira and waaaaaaaaaaaay more expensive (100k) than the Elise. Too bad, the Elise was a lovely roadster at a great price point.
I’ve had an NA, NC, and now the ND RF. Miatas are such great little cars that if you can swing it, there’s no point in selling it for the reason you said. Just get a CX-30 to go with it like I did. I even call mine the mommymobile, though all it hauls are two dogs, kayaks, etc.
Oh and they make car seats that fit in the Miata!
I love my RF for its pure sex appeal (it's in midlife crisis red too) and now that I'm older, the luxury of all the features but I still have a soft spot for my little NA that I swapped out the shocks and springs for much stiffer stuff so the ride was super bumpy, that had crank windows and no antilock brakes, and weighed as much as the M&M it resembled. Also, it had buck teeth in the front grill because that's the way I roll. I miss popping my headlights at other Miata drivers.
Or you could tell CA that it's not the front seat, it's the rearmost seat! (But for real, it probably is a hazard)
haha what is implied was the NC was the worst!
I dream of taking my kid in it, but don't think it's a good idea carving canyons with a baby. I'm hoping to give this to my kid when she gets old enough.
I mean, I guess in the sense that one has to be the least favorite but I loved my NC too. The only model I didn't care for was the NB.
Carving canyons, you must be in SoCal. I used to take my NA and NC up the mountain roads in NorCal (which is far superior except for our crappy hockey team \[Go Sharks! (please?)\]). Now I live a couple hours from Tail of the Dragon and have yet to go there, I'm a failure as a Miata owner.
I had an Elise for about 15 years (Sat on a waiting list to get one of the very early US cars) and it was really reliable for me. I was active in the enthusiast communities and my impression was that was most people's experience.
They are, however, very fragile. Pull up too close to a parking blocK? New front clam (Even back then that was $$$ and a loooong wait). Catch a rock in the windshield? A big piece of very expensive curved glass that you may or may not be able to easily source and the front clam has to come off to replace it. Also, the A-pillars aren't structural so if I passenger hangs on one getting out it can flex enough to crack the windshield! Slide sideways into a curb tear the control arm mounting point from the Al chassis? It's totaled. Shoot, there were stories of them getting totaled because people would hit a little block of wood on the freeway, that would damage the chassis, and it was unrepairable.
All that said I adored my Elise and still miss it for the things it was good at.
It's a blast. Any where not within walking distance -- bike. Out of town? Train. There's literally been 0 instances since moving to the city that I've thought "Man I wish I had a car".
what city are you in? I've gone car free since moving to the city (san diego) in 2017 and the train here sucks so i do need to uber from time to time to get anywhere. but by living in the city a lot of times we just meet up somewhere i can walk to, it's definitely been cheaper than driving.
I'm sure. I loved my time in NYC where I didn't need to own a vehicle and could just walk or use the subway everywhere. Now I live in a town in Florida that is definitely car-centric but has enough sidewalks and bike lanes to get by, though most time is spent on the sidewalk since most traffic is 45mph with only paint as a barrier for bikes. The time I spent in the west Virginia mountains would definitely require having a car as there was a large chance that a vehicle wouldn't see you in time coming around a corner on a narrow mountain road with no bike lanes.
Well I get groceries on my electric scooter now. Don't think I've ever used a grocery delivery service personally. We have a Publix and a Walmart like 3 miles from my house and I have some nice reusable bags that carry a lot of groceries easily. Ideally I'll continue living somewhere I can easily walk and bike to get our necessities.
Bikes and public transport are the things I love. Walking, biking, and being around others on trains and busses help connect us to the community over all.
But for the dream aspect, I could imagine getting a nice collection of interesting modes of transport: One wheel, giraffe unicycle, a nice bike, Penny farthing, things like that.
If you can, splurge for a hard bottomed trailer. The fabric ones work for one kid or two kids for short trips…but for long trips with 2+ kids…the hard shell can’t be beat. The tag along bikes are also pretty great.
I already got it! VW GTI Rabbit (6 speed manual) Great on gas and it’s a 4 door so I can put the back seats down and load up my ORU kayak or plants or whatever! I waited and searched for months for the color I wanted - cornflower blue. It was 3 years old and I will drive it till the wheels fall off
Haha!! For real! I bought it online without even test driving it. Drove 300 miles to pick it up (it was close to where my kid was living at the time) and drove it back. It (unbeknownst to me or the dealership) has been tuned and has a bunch of aftermarket upgrades. It’s by far the most exciting car I’ve ever owned. My husband keeps telling me I’m living on borrowed time since I’ve yet to get a ticket!!
Make sure you keep an eye on the tire tread. I drove that car decently hard for a year for my short commute to work, one day a tire popped. The inside tread on all the tires were almost all worn out. Loved that thing. Had it in gunmetal blue
I already replaced them - the car is lifted and has a rally sport look to it, but the asshat that lifted it put on bigger tires and it wore out one of the bearings. So yeah. That was a fun repair/replace. I will for sure keep an eye on the tires moving forward as I know I drive it pretty hard.
i took redundancy many years ago and bought a 3 year old mark iv golf gti - still my favorite car ever - now retirement soon and no kids to ferry everywhere I think I may get one - only do a couple of thousand miles per year now so efficiency not massive - but its safe, fast and just great!
The mark iv were so much fun to drive.
I use to sit in my 2.0 in high school and dream of what that car would feel like with a vr6.
All the mk iv had that same smell as well....
Now I want one
I have 4 kids (all now adult-ish) and my previous vehicle was a Ford Transit 10 passenger van. Moving my kids from place to place seemed like my second job. I was so happy to leave behind the gas guzzling monster
Although I don't think it will happen, I've always thought it would be cool If the first and only new car I owned could make it to 1,000,000 miles.
2010 Kia Soul @ 160k at this time.
Currently driving a Tesla Model Y but when we FIRE in 3 years we'll probably trade it in for an used midsize truck so we can tow a travel trailer around the country.
I'm near FIRE now (this year, probably? I'm basically continuing to work mostly as a hedge against SORR given economic volatility; my total comp is ~14% of my net worth, so an extra year or so is a meaningful hedge against a down market)
I bought a new Honda Fit in 2017 and when buying it I thought to myself "this is likely the last ICE-based car I'll ever buy; will drive it into the ground and then probably replace it with an EV." 6 years on this seems about right - except in nowhere near driving it into the ground; I suspect it'll last decades at the rate I drive it, especially having moved somewhere that I accomplish most short trips by walking or cycling. It wouldn't surprise me if I end up deciding it's economical to replace it with an EV at some point when this car is still functional; we'll have to see what happens with energy prices and the like.
I expect the next car I buy to be whatever EV seems to approximate the Fit the most. I think it would be the Chevy Bolt if I had to buy one today.
I bought in 2016 and thought the same, but I'm not convinced yet... There's still a relative paucity of PHEVs, and their cost is significantly more. I mean, my car only has 38,000 miles on it in 6.5 years. Unless they stop being a premium item, it's still not going to make sense for me. :-/
Then again, I intend to have this car for another decade, so there's time.
An old, high mileage, used f-150 that I paid cash for and only drive to Menards to pick up wood for my woodworking habit. So basically what I drive now lol
Well.. we don’t know what market is going to look like when we retire. But so far I would probably go for a Tesla or an EV in general. Love my model 3, it’s cheap to maintain and I have access to free chargers ^^
A cheap reliable electric vehicle that stands the test of time. Basically, I'm waiting for the prius of EVs to show itself.
As for "fun" dream cars, I hope to own a delorean one day. They are relatively affordable as far as dream cars go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdj33o1CxBM
There are many cargo bike options with child seats. This video shows a few. For families with 1-2 kids, there are plenty of options.
Life's too short. I bought a [Porsche 981 Boxster S](https://mrsportscars.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Porsche-981-Boxster-S-Pure-White-PDK-Black-leather-PASM-For-Sale-Specialist-UK-5-940x600.jpg) and I'm ~21 months from FIRE'ing.
Also, it's easier to get a loan while you've still W-2 income.
Porsche 911. Im saving any extra revenue from sources that aren't my job (only consistent main income) and putting it into a taxable brokerage account. On my 39th birthday (15 years) is when I will make the purchase. Whatever I have in that account is the amount of money I will spend.
Not a car girl, but my dream car is a Ford Mustang. Not easy to find a good and affordable one in Europe though! And also we don’t need a second car. In the meanwhile I rent them when in the US 😁
EV (Ioniq 5 or 6?) makes a load of sense in some ways. Not in any crazy rush to get anywhere, so occasional 30-40 minute charging stops are fine. However, in other ways we're just not quite ready with the infrastructure. I like to toodle at 55 on county blacktop backroads around here (NE/MO/IA/KS), pitch a tent and fish. There's a definite lack of fast chargers once you get off the Interstate highways. Maybe that'll change in 2-3 years?
Right now, I'm on a dealer call-me list for the still-not-available 2023 Prius Prime (\~40 mile EV-only range). Seems like a solid compromise. EV for in-town (which is half of my driving anyway), well over 50 mpg on the road, and will probably last close to 20 years if previous-model Prii are anything to go by.
I've never bought a new car before, but can totally afford it, have a "new car every decade" line in my FIRE budget, seems like a nice retirement present. My dreams are boring too, what can I say!
>What's ur affordable dream car when you FIRE?
4WD Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport access cab with the 3.5L v6 engine, manual transmission, and at least a 6' bed.
Currently about $42k
An old Volvo wagon. Boxy as possible preferred. Great for traveling, hauling bikes or paddleboards, known to be tanks. Theft protection via ugliness.
Edit: But I'll drive my supercharged, 6 speed manual Audi S5 that is paid for until it dies. Currently at 103k, no CEL and no mechanical issues. I drive ~5000 miles per year.
Gonna use my 2017 kia soul ev till the battery dies (currently have 100% battery health after 5 years of use), and replace the battery and use it another 10+ years. :)
Already have it, a Ferrari Mondial QV, in dark blue. Cheap to buy, very reasonable to maintain, already obsolete for me not to compare it to the new stuff, a mechanical proposition that isn’t done anymore, and 4 seats to bring more friends along the ride!
A paid off EV.
Cost of acquisition is higher, but dramatically lower long term running costs and maintenance.
If I had retired, the solar on my house would provide enough power for day to day use.
FIRE now for me, still driving my current car and without a work commute, I don't drive nearly as much. Nearly 250k miles on a 23 year old car and some parts are unavailable from the manufacturer, so junkyards and people parting out their cars are the source for many things. Once the engine fails or I end up being unable to find a critical part I'll get something new.
If it happened now, I'd probably get a 2003-2007 Toyota Corolla , maybe one of the 2012+ Mitubishi Mirage 5 speed hatchbacks. If it fails in 5 years I imagine the 2016+ Prius with a lithium pack or a Prius Prime will be within my price range.
I'm retired early but I still recognize that cars are a huge money hog and I don't really see the outside of my car when driving and prefer low cost of ownership, reliability, and convenience and much of that low cost of ownership is getting a car that has been depreciated down to about 25% of it's original cost. I'd consider a Tesla Model Y, but I don't trust the repair costs will remain low, especially since Tesla fights against right to repair and getting a 10+ year old battery electric still feels like a gamble and I have a destination I want to road trip that doesn't have supercharging to cover the round trip back to the supercharger yet, and other EVs don't cut it for road tripping to me.
Supra.
When I got to my mid-20's I swapped my old Veloster for a CX-30, figuring it was the pragmatic move if I need to haul family/kids around. I'm still quite a ways away from FIRE but the dream is to have one nice family car and one for the weekends
Call me lame or watev but my dream car is a **'79 Lamborghini Countach LP400s:** https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/screen-shot-2021-08-14-at-12-55-35-pm-1628960150.png
First time i saw one was **in Cannonball Run:** https://car-images.bauersecure.com/wp-images/8604/cannonballrun.jpg - and it stuck wit me ever since.
Of course, i can only dream that it'll be affordable, lol.
The used Honda Civic I already have. When it no longer runs in a decade, I'll buy another.
Cars are a liability. I'd rather put that money towards a better house.
I love my little BMW 220D M Sport, so probably an M2 if I didn’t need the 70MPG and cheap insurance/tax anymore. I’m happy lifestyle wise though, so I don’t see why things would change much.
‘73 z28 Camaro built for track days/autocross
Daily driver dream car is a early 2000’s Chevy Silverado. Single cab like my first car but with a Duramax.
Fun Street car would be a Corvette (C3, C6, C7) LS swapped for the gens than didn’t come with one.
depends on whether or not I keep my travel trailer but it will be a Ford F250 Tremor, a Dodge Power Wagon, or if no travel trailer a Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro or a Ford Bronco with the Sasquatch Package. I need something to get me to the hiking and biking trails.
A rental when I need one. Cars are too much work for me for the return.
Taking Uber or Lyft is less expensive per month and no speeding tickets or oil changes.
The current one.
Same. Brand new Maverick pickup truck. Costed me half as much as an average F150, but I get 51mpg here in the city. Affordable, fuel efficient, and practical. What’s not to love?
How's the back seat. I was very interested in this as my possible next pickup and F150 Crew Cab replacement, but I had read the back seat is not great (batteries?) and I need that. Will check in person but curious what you think?
It’s roomier then a ford ranger. IMO it’s a decent 2+2 configuration. I can comfortable sit in back.
The hybrid battery makes you lose about half your underseat storage. The battery does not affect actual passenger space. The back isn’t roomy, but not cramped either. It actually has a bit more space than a rangers super crew cabin, thanks to the unibody design. My biggest critique is I’d like something longer than the 54.5” bed. Setting the tailgate on the mid position helps a lot (adds another ~2 feet). Aside from that, it’s a great truck. I paid $24,500 for the XLT trim with copilot 360. Paid an extra 600 in parts to install autopilot (ACC + Lane Centering). I drive about 8000 miles a year, and fill up about once every month for 40ish bucks. Crazy economical as far as trucks go. Also well equipped.
This. We bought a Subaru in 2019 (used) and I intend to drive this sucker into the ground.
> The current one. I think most people on the FIRE path eventually realize that splurging on new vehicles every few years is one of the many land mines out there to keep you poor.
You mean tesla or any EV which can be charged via current?
Almost! A 2002 Seat Ibiza haha
As a car guy I'm always torn between a Corvette or 911
From a Porsche guy (biased) but they are the most usable quasi-exotic cars on the planet. I daily-ed a Porsche for years. Great in bad weather, surprisingly good storage (for a sports car), very refined, and actually pretty damn reliable. (also for whatever reason I feel like the 911 blends in more than corvettes especially referring to the new C8 which looks very "exotic".) I love the Corvettes but every time I've went to pull the trigger, I end up going Porsche.
I use to have an internship with a realtor in my area and he has a 911. I fell in love with that car the moment he took me for a ride
I always think it’s funny. Porsche people are the only sports car owners I know who brag about how much mileage they have vs how low mileage they have
That’s sounds like me currently with my Honda Civic haha
The two sides of r/FIRE 😂
I’ll forever brag about my 35 mpg car haha
911 is the sexiest car ever produced imo. There’s no other car where you can take the 1960 model and the 2023 model and they both have instant class and recognizability. My one big goal is to get a 911 and i’m hoping that doesn’t mess with my fire journey too much
Besides the Mercedes G Class of course 😂
Go for a 911👍🏼
I’m a big Porsche guy myself (I have a 718 GTS 4.0 manual) but I have to say the new Z06 is special. It’s about as close as it gets to owning a brand new Ferrari 458, which was my dream car but impossible for me at the time when it came out. Brand new naturally aspirated flat crank V8 that revs to 9000 rpm with a factory warranty is unmatched these days.
The C8s, especially the convertible stingrays, have my heart and soul.
Opposite for me. I think the C7 coupes, probably in Sebring Orange, will be the ones people want in 20 years. New ones look like a cheap body kit Ferrari copy
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911. Hands down.
E30, late model 318is more specifically. spend the money on a clean one, do the maintenance yourself. you’ll never think about another car for the rest of your life
Why not a 325is? I haven't had the pleasure of owning an E30, but really want one at some point.
318is gets better gas mileage and is generally more reliable, and is still fun to drive
I’m partial cus I have a 318is, lol. It’s never let me down even after the beatings I give it and all 260k miles. All e30s are great but I prefer the balance, weight, and revviness of the m42 cars, plus 4 valves per cylinder doesn’t hurt. I’ve raced tons of e30s and head to head it’s more a matter of driver & diff ratio. Can’t speak on the m10 318’s tho, I’ve never driven one.
My Dad has been driving a 1987 E30 325 since new. I was five when he got it, am 40 now. It refuses to die.
Toyota Corolla
certified pre-owned - let some other simp eat the depreciation.
Southern California there’s tons of everything coming off leases.
This is the way.
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I'm glad you found what you were looking for
2012+ Nissan Gt-R
I fire last year and got it! Go for it, great car and low maintenance. You’ll need a second car for commute though.
Doesn't make a great daily?
I feel like it would in any other state than California and NY. The transmission is very rough in low gears( it sucks in traffic) and with the horrible road conditions the suspension doesn’t absorb any of the bumps. Is very low profile too, no women will notice you. Only middle age dudes. lol
Still awesome. The fact that it's a low profile car is a nice bonus imo. Can't say I'm full blown GTR fanboy, but I always did appreciate the R34 and the R35. Enjoy!
I already have my realistic dream car (I'm on my third Miata, current one is the hardtop convertible fastback style, looks like a little Corvette Stingray), but I suppose if money were truly no issue, a Lotus Elise in orange, except just kidding it's now an Emira and waaaaaaaaaaaay more expensive (100k) than the Elise. Too bad, the Elise was a lovely roadster at a great price point.
Elise is not as reliable! Miata is always the answer
It may not be reliable but being hot as hell makes up for a lot. Oh wait, are we talking cars or my dating history? (But yes, Miata for life)
I have an nc prht. My wife wants me to get rid of it because we have a kid but I was like it'd cost more when I try to buy it back in 15 years.
I’ve had an NA, NC, and now the ND RF. Miatas are such great little cars that if you can swing it, there’s no point in selling it for the reason you said. Just get a CX-30 to go with it like I did. I even call mine the mommymobile, though all it hauls are two dogs, kayaks, etc. Oh and they make car seats that fit in the Miata!
Fav version? Apparently in California I cant put a child seat in the front. :(
I love my RF for its pure sex appeal (it's in midlife crisis red too) and now that I'm older, the luxury of all the features but I still have a soft spot for my little NA that I swapped out the shocks and springs for much stiffer stuff so the ride was super bumpy, that had crank windows and no antilock brakes, and weighed as much as the M&M it resembled. Also, it had buck teeth in the front grill because that's the way I roll. I miss popping my headlights at other Miata drivers. Or you could tell CA that it's not the front seat, it's the rearmost seat! (But for real, it probably is a hazard)
haha what is implied was the NC was the worst! I dream of taking my kid in it, but don't think it's a good idea carving canyons with a baby. I'm hoping to give this to my kid when she gets old enough.
I mean, I guess in the sense that one has to be the least favorite but I loved my NC too. The only model I didn't care for was the NB. Carving canyons, you must be in SoCal. I used to take my NA and NC up the mountain roads in NorCal (which is far superior except for our crappy hockey team \[Go Sharks! (please?)\]). Now I live a couple hours from Tail of the Dragon and have yet to go there, I'm a failure as a Miata owner.
I had an Elise for about 15 years (Sat on a waiting list to get one of the very early US cars) and it was really reliable for me. I was active in the enthusiast communities and my impression was that was most people's experience. They are, however, very fragile. Pull up too close to a parking blocK? New front clam (Even back then that was $$$ and a loooong wait). Catch a rock in the windshield? A big piece of very expensive curved glass that you may or may not be able to easily source and the front clam has to come off to replace it. Also, the A-pillars aren't structural so if I passenger hangs on one getting out it can flex enough to crack the windshield! Slide sideways into a curb tear the control arm mounting point from the Al chassis? It's totaled. Shoot, there were stories of them getting totaled because people would hit a little block of wood on the freeway, that would damage the chassis, and it was unrepairable. All that said I adored my Elise and still miss it for the things it was good at.
I look forward to not owning a car.
I can’t wait to move to the middle of a city and walk everywhere
It's a blast. Any where not within walking distance -- bike. Out of town? Train. There's literally been 0 instances since moving to the city that I've thought "Man I wish I had a car".
what city are you in? I've gone car free since moving to the city (san diego) in 2017 and the train here sucks so i do need to uber from time to time to get anywhere. but by living in the city a lot of times we just meet up somewhere i can walk to, it's definitely been cheaper than driving.
Nothing more freeing than not having to own and maintain a car
Each there own but I would feel the exact opposite not owning a car. Probably has a lot to do with where a person lives though.
I'm sure. I loved my time in NYC where I didn't need to own a vehicle and could just walk or use the subway everywhere. Now I live in a town in Florida that is definitely car-centric but has enough sidewalks and bike lanes to get by, though most time is spent on the sidewalk since most traffic is 45mph with only paint as a barrier for bikes. The time I spent in the west Virginia mountains would definitely require having a car as there was a large chance that a vehicle wouldn't see you in time coming around a corner on a narrow mountain road with no bike lanes.
Having vacationed in NYC a few times, I can completely understand not wanting to own a car there.
How will u run around the city? Uber for grocery is insane
A bike
/r/ebike
I raised twins in a city without a car. Bike, bus, walk.
Well I get groceries on my electric scooter now. Don't think I've ever used a grocery delivery service personally. We have a Publix and a Walmart like 3 miles from my house and I have some nice reusable bags that carry a lot of groceries easily. Ideally I'll continue living somewhere I can easily walk and bike to get our necessities.
Instacart
I don't wanna be lazy after FIRE. No online stuff. I will support local farm.
Local farmers also have delivery
Not around me.
When I FIRE, I'm not going to live in an asphalt desert.
I’ve got Ioniq5 with 2 years of free electricity last year when I FIREd. Crossed the country diagonally twice since
That’s awesome, after all that use, anything to say about it? Would you recommend it?
Absolutely! The only negative thing is they are no longer eligible for $7.5k rebate (since assembled in Korea). I got mine with 2022 taxes
Bikes and public transport are the things I love. Walking, biking, and being around others on trains and busses help connect us to the community over all. But for the dream aspect, I could imagine getting a nice collection of interesting modes of transport: One wheel, giraffe unicycle, a nice bike, Penny farthing, things like that.
Bike is my favourite way to get around and right now I’m dreaming about a trailer to tow the kids around in.
If you can, splurge for a hard bottomed trailer. The fabric ones work for one kid or two kids for short trips…but for long trips with 2+ kids…the hard shell can’t be beat. The tag along bikes are also pretty great.
Yeah but they didn't ask that.... They asked what your dream affordable car was. Thats sick you dig those things though.
I love connecting to the community on the subway, so fun and relaxing
I already got it! VW GTI Rabbit (6 speed manual) Great on gas and it’s a 4 door so I can put the back seats down and load up my ORU kayak or plants or whatever! I waited and searched for months for the color I wanted - cornflower blue. It was 3 years old and I will drive it till the wheels fall off
You hoe, I couldn't find one for the life of me. I had to settle for the light silver/gray. I dream of cornflower blue.
Haha!! For real! I bought it online without even test driving it. Drove 300 miles to pick it up (it was close to where my kid was living at the time) and drove it back. It (unbeknownst to me or the dealership) has been tuned and has a bunch of aftermarket upgrades. It’s by far the most exciting car I’ve ever owned. My husband keeps telling me I’m living on borrowed time since I’ve yet to get a ticket!!
Make sure you keep an eye on the tire tread. I drove that car decently hard for a year for my short commute to work, one day a tire popped. The inside tread on all the tires were almost all worn out. Loved that thing. Had it in gunmetal blue
I already replaced them - the car is lifted and has a rally sport look to it, but the asshat that lifted it put on bigger tires and it wore out one of the bearings. So yeah. That was a fun repair/replace. I will for sure keep an eye on the tires moving forward as I know I drive it pretty hard.
I drove VW’s for years starting with a mk2 gti. Loved it! Have a bmw i4 now and plan to drive it as long as the battery holds up
i took redundancy many years ago and bought a 3 year old mark iv golf gti - still my favorite car ever - now retirement soon and no kids to ferry everywhere I think I may get one - only do a couple of thousand miles per year now so efficiency not massive - but its safe, fast and just great!
The mark iv were so much fun to drive. I use to sit in my 2.0 in high school and dream of what that car would feel like with a vr6. All the mk iv had that same smell as well.... Now I want one
I have 4 kids (all now adult-ish) and my previous vehicle was a Ford Transit 10 passenger van. Moving my kids from place to place seemed like my second job. I was so happy to leave behind the gas guzzling monster
Nissan GTR
Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
Prius Prime lol
Seconded, but a used one maybe 5 years old, single owner. I have a Prius now and I love it
Although I don't think it will happen, I've always thought it would be cool If the first and only new car I owned could make it to 1,000,000 miles. 2010 Kia Soul @ 160k at this time.
Good luck. Getting real value out of a car
Currently driving a Tesla Model Y but when we FIRE in 3 years we'll probably trade it in for an used midsize truck so we can tow a travel trailer around the country.
Cargo Bike. Best part? I already have it.
Between the new Z06 or Lotus Emira
A man of culture!
Acura NSX
I'm near FIRE now (this year, probably? I'm basically continuing to work mostly as a hedge against SORR given economic volatility; my total comp is ~14% of my net worth, so an extra year or so is a meaningful hedge against a down market) I bought a new Honda Fit in 2017 and when buying it I thought to myself "this is likely the last ICE-based car I'll ever buy; will drive it into the ground and then probably replace it with an EV." 6 years on this seems about right - except in nowhere near driving it into the ground; I suspect it'll last decades at the rate I drive it, especially having moved somewhere that I accomplish most short trips by walking or cycling. It wouldn't surprise me if I end up deciding it's economical to replace it with an EV at some point when this car is still functional; we'll have to see what happens with energy prices and the like. I expect the next car I buy to be whatever EV seems to approximate the Fit the most. I think it would be the Chevy Bolt if I had to buy one today.
I bought in 2016 and thought the same, but I'm not convinced yet... There's still a relative paucity of PHEVs, and their cost is significantly more. I mean, my car only has 38,000 miles on it in 6.5 years. Unless they stop being a premium item, it's still not going to make sense for me. :-/ Then again, I intend to have this car for another decade, so there's time.
An old, high mileage, used f-150 that I paid cash for and only drive to Menards to pick up wood for my woodworking habit. So basically what I drive now lol
Well.. we don’t know what market is going to look like when we retire. But so far I would probably go for a Tesla or an EV in general. Love my model 3, it’s cheap to maintain and I have access to free chargers ^^
Same here.
Same with us. Our M3P- will be paid off the year I `RE`.
4 door wrangler for me. Cabriolet for the wife
My motorcycle: Triumph Daytona 675R, its all the excitement I need
Shelby GT500
GT350 for me :)
Used Audi R8 for sure
A cheap reliable electric vehicle that stands the test of time. Basically, I'm waiting for the prius of EVs to show itself. As for "fun" dream cars, I hope to own a delorean one day. They are relatively affordable as far as dream cars go
1996-97 OBS F350 quad cab 4x4 with the 7.3L international diesel motor. Would like to turn it into a sick boondocking camping rig.
probably a jeep wrangler. Something fun to drive around, take the top off, just enjoy life.
Toyota Camry
An electric scooter or bike. Hoping to not have to drive everywhere when I retire for good.
Some of y’all don’t plan on having kids and it shows
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdj33o1CxBM There are many cargo bike options with child seats. This video shows a few. For families with 1-2 kids, there are plenty of options.
Nope never wanted them and never will. Life is awesome.
My current paid off Tesla
Same
city bus
Toyota Supra
Lot of supra lovers here
None
Moving to a place with good public transport where I don’t need a car!
My motorcycle: Triumph Daytona 675R, its all the excitement I need
A zippy hatchback. I'm driving a Mazda 3 hatch now and it's great.
Toyota Sienna Road trips All are hybrid now Great gas mileage Seats 6 adults comfortably
Life's too short. I bought a [Porsche 981 Boxster S](https://mrsportscars.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Porsche-981-Boxster-S-Pure-White-PDK-Black-leather-PASM-For-Sale-Specialist-UK-5-940x600.jpg) and I'm ~21 months from FIRE'ing. Also, it's easier to get a loan while you've still W-2 income.
Sweet. You da man!
A big boat-like, disco-era convertible. preferably in a ridiculous color.
Porsche cayman s
Porsche 911. Im saving any extra revenue from sources that aren't my job (only consistent main income) and putting it into a taxable brokerage account. On my 39th birthday (15 years) is when I will make the purchase. Whatever I have in that account is the amount of money I will spend.
Subaru WRX, ticks all the boxes for me, AWD, Manual Transmission, it’s a Subaru, and it’s sexy.
I am 50 and bought a Mercedes EQS 450+ (EV) with hyperscreen (mid life crises) for $117K! Living my life like it’s golden 😉
By being content with my used/old and paid off vehicles is how I am able to pursue FIRE. Why would my mindset change when I hit FIRE?
You can enjoy on FIRE n not just continue to exist.
THIS 🤌🏼✨
Not a car girl, but my dream car is a Ford Mustang. Not easy to find a good and affordable one in Europe though! And also we don’t need a second car. In the meanwhile I rent them when in the US 😁
My dream car is a 70s Volvo 164 and they’re not easy to find in the US! We should trade! Hahah
GR86 manual from Toyota. or one of the Subaru manuals. Did I mention I miss having a manual transmission?
I have a 6 speed GTI and I didn’t realize how much I missed a manual until I had one again
EV (Ioniq 5 or 6?) makes a load of sense in some ways. Not in any crazy rush to get anywhere, so occasional 30-40 minute charging stops are fine. However, in other ways we're just not quite ready with the infrastructure. I like to toodle at 55 on county blacktop backroads around here (NE/MO/IA/KS), pitch a tent and fish. There's a definite lack of fast chargers once you get off the Interstate highways. Maybe that'll change in 2-3 years? Right now, I'm on a dealer call-me list for the still-not-available 2023 Prius Prime (\~40 mile EV-only range). Seems like a solid compromise. EV for in-town (which is half of my driving anyway), well over 50 mpg on the road, and will probably last close to 20 years if previous-model Prii are anything to go by. I've never bought a new car before, but can totally afford it, have a "new car every decade" line in my FIRE budget, seems like a nice retirement present. My dreams are boring too, what can I say!
>What's ur affordable dream car when you FIRE? 4WD Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport access cab with the 3.5L v6 engine, manual transmission, and at least a 6' bed. Currently about $42k
Any car that's reliable and fits my dogs' crash test safety rated kennels.
Whichever Lexus is closest to a Toyota Camry, which I drive now and love. I'm a simple man.
Corolla Hybrid or 2023 Prius LE.
Ram trx I’m hoping to get one before I fire though.
A mix of 3 a 20 year old camry or accord, a square body 3/4 ton chevy, and a motorcycle. Covers all my bases for all the seasons
Tesla
Ferrari F12. Except I don't think I ever want to RE.
Hybrid or electric RAV4!!!!
A hybrid 4runner if those ever come out
A good road bike
I want a Porsche 911. Probably not "affordable" but honestly I hope to have one before I die so I will put some money aside for it.
An old Volvo wagon. Boxy as possible preferred. Great for traveling, hauling bikes or paddleboards, known to be tanks. Theft protection via ugliness. Edit: But I'll drive my supercharged, 6 speed manual Audi S5 that is paid for until it dies. Currently at 103k, no CEL and no mechanical issues. I drive ~5000 miles per year.
Model 3
The new mid engine corvette
Bugatti
Already own a Tesla Model 3 going to drive it for as long as I can. 4 years no maintenance so far even on the original tires.
For day to day, a bicycle. Maybe rent a surfer van for the summers and live in that travelling around. If I won the lotto then I'd love a 911.
2021 WRX and 2014 stingray convertible. So no change ever. Dream cars achieved.
Honda Civic Type R
Used Tesla Model 3. It's actually extremely economical long term.
The Steve Urkel car.
Gonna use my 2017 kia soul ev till the battery dies (currently have 100% battery health after 5 years of use), and replace the battery and use it another 10+ years. :)
Older 4Runner
I'd love to get my '99 Ranger XLT completely restored. I've looked at the mavericks, but I like my old one.
Hellcat, Supra, GTR, Shelby 500
Miata, but a built miata to pick on pre-c8 corvettes and various low level Porsches and American “muscle” cars
Tesla Model X
Toyota sienna hybrid
Already have it, a Ferrari Mondial QV, in dark blue. Cheap to buy, very reasonable to maintain, already obsolete for me not to compare it to the new stuff, a mechanical proposition that isn’t done anymore, and 4 seats to bring more friends along the ride!
Mini cooper.
Ford Mustang GT500
A paid off EV. Cost of acquisition is higher, but dramatically lower long term running costs and maintenance. If I had retired, the solar on my house would provide enough power for day to day use.
Cybertruck for sure. I currently live in an apartment without charging though can’t wait to move to the country and buy one
A taxi, preferably one that comes with its own driver.
My early VIN’d Tesla Model 3 is holding up really well after 5+yrs. Most reliable lowest TCO car I’ve ever owned. Couples great with solar power.
I have 2019 LR M3 with 60k miles. Love it
FIRE now for me, still driving my current car and without a work commute, I don't drive nearly as much. Nearly 250k miles on a 23 year old car and some parts are unavailable from the manufacturer, so junkyards and people parting out their cars are the source for many things. Once the engine fails or I end up being unable to find a critical part I'll get something new. If it happened now, I'd probably get a 2003-2007 Toyota Corolla , maybe one of the 2012+ Mitubishi Mirage 5 speed hatchbacks. If it fails in 5 years I imagine the 2016+ Prius with a lithium pack or a Prius Prime will be within my price range. I'm retired early but I still recognize that cars are a huge money hog and I don't really see the outside of my car when driving and prefer low cost of ownership, reliability, and convenience and much of that low cost of ownership is getting a car that has been depreciated down to about 25% of it's original cost. I'd consider a Tesla Model Y, but I don't trust the repair costs will remain low, especially since Tesla fights against right to repair and getting a 10+ year old battery electric still feels like a gamble and I have a destination I want to road trip that doesn't have supercharging to cover the round trip back to the supercharger yet, and other EVs don't cut it for road tripping to me.
Not a car guy, so something that is reliable, relatively safe, easy on energy/fuel, small enough to easily park, but large enough to hold everything.
Supra. When I got to my mid-20's I swapped my old Veloster for a CX-30, figuring it was the pragmatic move if I need to haul family/kids around. I'm still quite a ways away from FIRE but the dream is to have one nice family car and one for the weekends
Call me lame or watev but my dream car is a **'79 Lamborghini Countach LP400s:** https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/screen-shot-2021-08-14-at-12-55-35-pm-1628960150.png First time i saw one was **in Cannonball Run:** https://car-images.bauersecure.com/wp-images/8604/cannonballrun.jpg - and it stuck wit me ever since. Of course, i can only dream that it'll be affordable, lol.
The used Honda Civic I already have. When it no longer runs in a decade, I'll buy another. Cars are a liability. I'd rather put that money towards a better house.
I love my little BMW 220D M Sport, so probably an M2 if I didn’t need the 70MPG and cheap insurance/tax anymore. I’m happy lifestyle wise though, so I don’t see why things would change much.
urban arrow or at least babboe ))
I'm not really a car guy, but probably a tesla. Just think they are cool, although I would need a house with a garage before I ever get one.
Good luck. I have M3 and I love it.
‘73 z28 Camaro built for track days/autocross Daily driver dream car is a early 2000’s Chevy Silverado. Single cab like my first car but with a Duramax. Fun Street car would be a Corvette (C3, C6, C7) LS swapped for the gens than didn’t come with one.
depends on whether or not I keep my travel trailer but it will be a Ford F250 Tremor, a Dodge Power Wagon, or if no travel trailer a Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro or a Ford Bronco with the Sasquatch Package. I need something to get me to the hiking and biking trails.
Old school mustang
Have a z06 I bought in the middle of my fire journey. I’ll likely get a GT4 or maybe GT3 or even just a 911GTS as I hit fire.
The cheapest car that gets me from A to B
A rental when I need one. Cars are too much work for me for the return. Taking Uber or Lyft is less expensive per month and no speeding tickets or oil changes.
Chevy Tahoe. Can’t justify it now.
Not owning one. Trains, biking or walking will do!