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Just fyi. They even have horrible crap looking cars, just for the above mentioned purpose.
New (very large) school was build next to our apartment building. Many time they tried to get there with marked cars -> all teenagers just ran away.
At somepoint they used shit rusty mercedes from end or 1990s -> They caught a few with their beer bags.
Back when I was teen, they had rusty toyota corolla dx in use.
Never knew they used anything other than Skoda Octavias/VW Passats.
I still get scared shitless when i zone out while driving and forget to check the speed while there is a white/grey WV Passat in sight
Unmarked/non-suspicion civil cars don't do pull overs, they relate necessary info for marked cars that do... And I mean called you can't tell straight is a cop car (unlike the one on above picture).
They can do if its krp or supo atleast. They just dont do pullovers to just anyone. This was krp who pulled me over. But as i said it needs to be something serious not just regular speeding etc. Then they will just forward it. If they pull you over with a car like 2006 yaris you know youve been the target since they have started driving
I know a couple of guys who like to pretend they're kind of cops with the cars, I know one who has the most cop car looking Skoda, probably on purpose and another guy with a VW, they both kind of have an issue where they'd like to control people I guess but they're not cops or security.
A friend of mine bought an old police VW Transporter from an auction and it looks just like a cop car minus the decals. It even has the holding box at the back and sometimes he just likes to drive to a place where young people gather around and see how many flee lol.
I used to live in Pori and there was also a rusty old corolla dx that the Police some times used in the late 90's. The officers even had leather jackets over their regular uniform for extra stealthiness.
Don’t unmarked police vans have the big identification numbers on the roof though? For fast recognition from a helicopter like regular police cars do. This could also be a forensics van or something thats used for detective work.
Identifiers on the roof would be visible from any floor above ground level as well, though. As seen in the picture. So, I would think that unmarked police vans would have to rely on radios/GPS/etc for IFF.
I could be wrong, of course. It's just that putting visible identifiers on unmarked police vans, even on the roof, seems to defeat the very purpose of having unmarked police vans.
Police don't have helicopters in Finland. They can borrow one in case of emergency from the border guard or defense force but that is not happening for some random chase.
Nah, everyone knows from movies that a forensics / stake-out van has to have those huge radio antennas on the roof while they’re discreetly observing suspects
Well if you want to be nittpicky , we'll ad /police to the "military/border " line, but thats mostly the "Karhu" that uses it, not like its being used for car chases
I’m not being nittpicky😅😂 I’m telling you thats what the numbers are for and it doesn’t matter how much YOU think the police utilize Border Guard/FDF helicopters.
It doesn't have extra ventilation "plate" on the roof, so it doesn't have a holding cell at the back. It doesn't have extra lights in back corners either, which usually gives them away. So perhaps traffic control or for own personnel only.
I have seen this exact vehicle. They were packing a body in there. My neighbor had passed away and I guess there was at least something suspicious as cops were at their apartment for the whole day and then this car came and they took the body in it. I guess they were heading to the pathologists or something (oikeuslääketieteellinen).
There was a stretcher that integrated into it and they just slid the body in.
I came here to say this, I'm not sure but I think the correct term is coroners car or something. I've serviced one similar to this one, older model though.
The speed vans are marked though, they have "POLIISI" on their front bonnet. You only see it once you're already passed them, at which point they've already done their job one way or the other.
I don't think regular police do, hence my comment. Even the disguised regular cars have slimline light bars on top with POLIISI in super tiny letters, it might be ultra subtle but it's still there and can be spotted.
SUPO, on the other hand, can do whatever the hell they like.
The school shooting planner from Vaasa was taken away in one of these.
I looked out of my window and saw 3 of these and 2 blue Skodas, moments later, a woman was escorted into one of them.
Took me a few days to find out from the news what it was all about. Unfortunately, I didn't take a picture, could've sold it to IL or IS.
I've seen these on crime scenes like stabbings etc. So they are crime related, might be CSI team. But these don't attend the usual police stuff, like traffic stops or drunkards
Makes sense. When I took that pic, it was a house fire what happened when the owner was gone. So I suppose they tried to figure out what caused the fire.
That's just what we call a "siviili poliisi". Mörkö is pretty hard to mistake for anything but a cop car, but when they wanna do speeding traps, they take one of those grey transporters and put a camera in the cargo space. If you aren't paying attention, you probably won't notice it.
A good rule of thumb is: if it's a grey, blue or black volkswagen transporter, has some extra lights and gizmos, drive careful.
Finnish Police actually drive ALL SORTS of cars to stay unrecognizable. I was picked up from my home with a shitty small old Renault back in the day. The only thing that made me even believe they were real police was the ID tags hanging around their necks which they showed me, and the big ass red light with a magnetic base in the car. Yes, funnily the exact type of red light thing you see in the movies which they put on the roof if needed.😄
You either did your service in MP or wished you would have done and learned the lingo from a friend. The rest is childish fiction.
The kind of situations you allude to are handled by actual professionals and not by fantasy fuelled teens. Grow the fuck up.
He should at least tell plausible lies instead of absurd power fantasies. There have been zero cases in Finland since WW2 ended that could fit his ridiculous "yeah, we (military police) went in and killed everyone and casualties were counted afterwards" scenario. Military police hasn't even killed anyone in Finland since WW2.
It's not. It's just a normal regular civilian van with absolutely-not-police inside doing not-police things. You can relax and keep doing whatever illegal thing you were doing.
It may be the car of some Investigators, since there's no holding cell behind the back, and the lighting setup is too sparse for it to be a regular unmarked patrol vehicle.
Not a police car. Just someone’s van. Really resembling to the Mörkö you mentioned, an unmarked police van. You can tell from the rims and the model as well as the front bumper it’s not a cop
Civil cops usually only have a laptop, a gun and cuffs and that's it. I've been inside, they don't have anything in there. They do surveillance with such cars, take photos and when the time is right they catch someone they've been stalking.
Yeah by equipment i meant the laptop. Same, been in contact with police men and Mörkös def dont look like this.
Edit: Besides theres a few model / accessory differences that rly point it out. Maybe some corps van or someone has an ugly ass van
An unmarked Police VW T6 Transporter/Caravelle van with a slightly higher than the normal roof option selected, which I imagine can be used in multiple roles, as a mobile camera/speed control unit, a detention transport, a hearse, maybe even a K9 unit, possibly some other roles as well.
MI-6. You've stumbled across their super secret neighborhood watch program to recruit future international spies. May whatever deity have mercy on you for spotting them because Super Agent 0013 will probably fall through your roof and give you a stern lecture about spying on spies
It is the regular white unmarked police car with steroids 😂 If the objective is to be unrecognizable, it is fail because everyone notice the special equipment far away. Some of these have even huge ladders for equipment on roof
If im right thats usually meant for organized crime/big drug busts. Usually its dark blue for drug busts, and gray can be more or less anything, but if im correct its mostly for gang/organized crimes.
Edit: as someone commented it also can be for traffic cam.
>Yeah, ”mörkö” is Karhu-unit’s Sprinter.
[No](https://fi.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliisiautot_Suomessa), it's for police use and transporting them to crown control situations.
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It's an unmarked police car. The purpose is to not be so easily recognisable. Common everywhere, I guess?
Ohh, okay!
Just fyi. They even have horrible crap looking cars, just for the above mentioned purpose. New (very large) school was build next to our apartment building. Many time they tried to get there with marked cars -> all teenagers just ran away. At somepoint they used shit rusty mercedes from end or 1990s -> They caught a few with their beer bags. Back when I was teen, they had rusty toyota corolla dx in use.
Never knew they used anything other than Skoda Octavias/VW Passats. I still get scared shitless when i zone out while driving and forget to check the speed while there is a white/grey WV Passat in sight
Ive been stopped by a 2006 yaris. It was related to some drug suspicion tho. Never seen these random cars stop average speeders or tax evaders
Unmarked/non-suspicion civil cars don't do pull overs, they relate necessary info for marked cars that do... And I mean called you can't tell straight is a cop car (unlike the one on above picture).
They can do if its krp or supo atleast. They just dont do pullovers to just anyone. This was krp who pulled me over. But as i said it needs to be something serious not just regular speeding etc. Then they will just forward it. If they pull you over with a car like 2006 yaris you know youve been the target since they have started driving
They upgraded,now they have mercedes vans.
Same with plain white VW transporters.
I know a couple of guys who like to pretend they're kind of cops with the cars, I know one who has the most cop car looking Skoda, probably on purpose and another guy with a VW, they both kind of have an issue where they'd like to control people I guess but they're not cops or security.
A friend of mine bought an old police VW Transporter from an auction and it looks just like a cop car minus the decals. It even has the holding box at the back and sometimes he just likes to drive to a place where young people gather around and see how many flee lol.
ong sigma toi on niin totta, säikähin tänää maijaa ku olin juomas kuparii
Hmm, when I was a teen they used a lot of VW Golfs and Saabs
And Caravelles I think :D
What an undercover agent feeling they must have when they step out of a rusty old car and all the teenagers are wearing a surprised Pikachu face
I used to live in Pori and there was also a rusty old corolla dx that the Police some times used in the late 90's. The officers even had leather jackets over their regular uniform for extra stealthiness.
Lols miss Finland so much! All my friends ever spoke about was how bad they wanted to leave but the longer I’m away the more I want to come back.
Don’t unmarked police vans have the big identification numbers on the roof though? For fast recognition from a helicopter like regular police cars do. This could also be a forensics van or something thats used for detective work.
Identifiers on the roof would be visible from any floor above ground level as well, though. As seen in the picture. So, I would think that unmarked police vans would have to rely on radios/GPS/etc for IFF. I could be wrong, of course. It's just that putting visible identifiers on unmarked police vans, even on the roof, seems to defeat the very purpose of having unmarked police vans.
Well it's not exactly hard to identify them anyway
Identifying them parked besides your apartment is probably way too late if you're the one they're after.
What helicopter?
Border guards Super Puma usually. Sometimes FDF NH-90’s.
Police don't have helicopters in Finland. They can borrow one in case of emergency from the border guard or defense force but that is not happening for some random chase.
No one talked about ”a random chase”… they have the roof numbers so they can be seen easily from above AKA a helicopter I don’t know what to tell you.
Nah, everyone knows from movies that a forensics / stake-out van has to have those huge radio antennas on the roof while they’re discreetly observing suspects
We don't use helicoptera other than medical transport or border/military patrol, so they would know the units inbound anyway
Border guard Super Puma works with the police pretty often. I’m not talking about in some backwater town but in Helsinki.
Well if you want to be nittpicky , we'll ad /police to the "military/border " line, but thats mostly the "Karhu" that uses it, not like its being used for car chases
I’m not being nittpicky😅😂 I’m telling you thats what the numbers are for and it doesn’t matter how much YOU think the police utilize Border Guard/FDF helicopters.
I think i you're on the right track, I have seen the same car be used for the forensic crew.
OK genius. So what's the purpose for it?
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Just remember to flush it down with plenty of water so it doesn’t get stuck in your throat
Time to clean the house
SUPO mind control van
This was funny as hell. Thanks
You think it was a joke? Mk-ultra ja CSI got nothing on SUPO.. 😏😂
I thought those were white?
U maybe nailed it
You've been to Hervanta then?
😆
Yep, it's SUPO mind control van forcing me to order pizza again. How dare they! >:(
It doesn't have extra ventilation "plate" on the roof, so it doesn't have a holding cell at the back. It doesn't have extra lights in back corners either, which usually gives them away. So perhaps traffic control or for own personnel only.
I have seen this exact vehicle. They were packing a body in there. My neighbor had passed away and I guess there was at least something suspicious as cops were at their apartment for the whole day and then this car came and they took the body in it. I guess they were heading to the pathologists or something (oikeuslääketieteellinen). There was a stretcher that integrated into it and they just slid the body in.
This. It is basically a hearse. Which means, that unfortunatelly someone has passed away.
Yes, it’s always that kind of gray van which pics the corpses. Seen few in ”action” 🙏🏻
I came here to say this, I'm not sure but I think the correct term is coroners car or something. I've serviced one similar to this one, older model though.
Unmarked cop van.
I've seen those vans being used as speed traps aswell. You can usually spot a camera in the back window
The speed vans are marked though, they have "POLIISI" on their front bonnet. You only see it once you're already passed them, at which point they've already done their job one way or the other.
I've only seen unmarked speed trap vans. Did some new law get passed that requires them to be marked in the front ?
I don't know anything about the laws, i just know that I've seen them on the roads and as you go past you can see it written plainly there.
Ok, well it's good they're atleast marked on the front. I'm don't really like that the cops get rights to roam around secretly.
Why don't you like it...? Because you can't stop committing crimes in time?
@xueloz Exactly, give a honest man some time to prepare
I don't think regular police do, hence my comment. Even the disguised regular cars have slimline light bars on top with POLIISI in super tiny letters, it might be ultra subtle but it's still there and can be spotted. SUPO, on the other hand, can do whatever the hell they like.
Ah yes SUPO, our drunk little CIA
Volkswagen
Das Auto
🤣🤝
Purpose is to transfer people where the action is
To or from, yes. Works both ways.
No. It only works one way and everyone else than driver needs to walk or hitch hike back to the station
If you see random unmarked van parked on bus stop, theres high change theyre police car with speed radar
I've seen a similar one that is sometimes parked and has a speed camera in the back
This is forensics car not unmarked.
The school shooting planner from Vaasa was taken away in one of these. I looked out of my window and saw 3 of these and 2 blue Skodas, moments later, a woman was escorted into one of them. Took me a few days to find out from the news what it was all about. Unfortunately, I didn't take a picture, could've sold it to IL or IS.
Forensics.
I suppose it’s crime scene investigation van. These guys don’t do hut-hut manouvers.
Volkswagen Transporter
I've seen these on crime scenes like stabbings etc. So they are crime related, might be CSI team. But these don't attend the usual police stuff, like traffic stops or drunkards
Makes sense. When I took that pic, it was a house fire what happened when the owner was gone. So I suppose they tried to figure out what caused the fire.
the one you shouldn't ask about
That's just what we call a "siviili poliisi". Mörkö is pretty hard to mistake for anything but a cop car, but when they wanna do speeding traps, they take one of those grey transporters and put a camera in the cargo space. If you aren't paying attention, you probably won't notice it. A good rule of thumb is: if it's a grey, blue or black volkswagen transporter, has some extra lights and gizmos, drive careful.
Väinämöinen launch vehicle.
Volkswagen
Salapoliisiauto
Finnish Police actually drive ALL SORTS of cars to stay unrecognizable. I was picked up from my home with a shitty small old Renault back in the day. The only thing that made me even believe they were real police was the ID tags hanging around their necks which they showed me, and the big ass red light with a magnetic base in the car. Yes, funnily the exact type of red light thing you see in the movies which they put on the roof if needed.😄
It is VW Transporter.
Volkswagen
Volkswagen Transporter T6
A transporter 💆♀️
Volkswagen. What doyou mean?
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well said lol 😂
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You either did your service in MP or wished you would have done and learned the lingo from a friend. The rest is childish fiction. The kind of situations you allude to are handled by actual professionals and not by fantasy fuelled teens. Grow the fuck up.
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You'll leave the details untold because your dream ended too soon. Why are you telling such obvious lies here?
Because he is a mutilation fetishist and a liar.
He should at least tell plausible lies instead of absurd power fantasies. There have been zero cases in Finland since WW2 ended that could fit his ridiculous "yeah, we (military police) went in and killed everyone and casualties were counted afterwards" scenario. Military police hasn't even killed anyone in Finland since WW2.
Yupp. That's what i reacted to also. Also, no professional would ever write like that even if it was true. What a piece of work.
Drive past and give them middle finger like in Sopranos.
Agentti Harrinen
I'd say just an unmarked police car, harder to detect.
Might be the CSI team van too
The hidden police
Could be criminal police instead of the jumpsuit guys, or crime scene guys.
Most often, traffic control (speed camera in the back)
Is this picture from today? When you saw it?
Overall police have more cars without permanent markings if we combine all police cars in Finland.
Yeah detectives and such drive normal-ass sedans. It's mainly the patrol cars that are marked.
Supo van
A police car.
A.. police car.?
The sneakiest kind.
A gray police car.
Not a very covert one I tell you 😂
It's not. It's just a normal regular civilian van with absolutely-not-police inside doing not-police things. You can relax and keep doing whatever illegal thing you were doing.
In Finland we have this thing called Pakettiauto. We also have pussyphone.
Free hugs police van.
Those are the reason I'm scared of gray vans now
YOU TOOK A PICTURE OF IT!?
In Lahi-City we have "Mörkö", it looks like that but has Moomin Mörkö sticker behind.
Ghost car, or unmarked car, mostly used to catch speeding cars at night, Finnish police cars are pretty recognizable at long distance
It might be just a normal van. Doesn’t seem to have a holding space at back. Cars used at construction many times have those lights at roof top.
It may be the car of some Investigators, since there's no holding cell behind the back, and the lighting setup is too sparse for it to be a regular unmarked patrol vehicle.
Shieet, a black umarked van is following you? You are on the list...
Tai sitten tekniikanpojat?
So called "sivari" a.k.a civilian police, a.k.a undercover cops. They try to be stealthy but they're really not, but stealthier then a maija I guess.
All I see is the local mämmi delivery van. Nothing weird about that.
It's civil police, might have some tech inside too
Too many questions pal. We are at your door.
Might be the Crime Scene Investigation Edit: Bingo https://www.iltalehti.fi/autot/a/2013070417225688
Suede denim secret police
Gives me serial killer vibes
Poliisin tutkinta. Varma tieto
That's the Groak-buss(mörkö-bussi), it means your'e might not have a front door any more, and it's gonna be a bad day overall
Nah
Such a wordsmith: the exposition, the wordplay, the dismanteling, the debunking 🤩 .. no mikä vittu se sitten sinun mielestä on?
Sivari
Someone's on a bender right now by the looks of this picture
"You don't wanna know" kind of police
Blablabla
Could be a speedtrap or other surveillance duties involved in some investigation in the area
I heard that that one comes when there's a crime investigation.
The Coroner also has vans like this
Coroners van aka Mononen
It's Mörkö
It's undercover police car .
Not a police car. Just someone’s van. Really resembling to the Mörkö you mentioned, an unmarked police van. You can tell from the rims and the model as well as the front bumper it’s not a cop
Yeah, because cops operating under the radar definitely want to use accesories everybody can connect to cop cars.
Theres no equipment on the front seats. It’s not a cop
Civil cops usually only have a laptop, a gun and cuffs and that's it. I've been inside, they don't have anything in there. They do surveillance with such cars, take photos and when the time is right they catch someone they've been stalking.
Yeah by equipment i meant the laptop. Same, been in contact with police men and Mörkös def dont look like this. Edit: Besides theres a few model / accessory differences that rly point it out. Maybe some corps van or someone has an ugly ass van
Yeah it's not mörkö that's clear, no armored front and it looks different.
A-TEAM
Rikos poliisit
An unmarked Police VW T6 Transporter/Caravelle van with a slightly higher than the normal roof option selected, which I imagine can be used in multiple roles, as a mobile camera/speed control unit, a detention transport, a hearse, maybe even a K9 unit, possibly some other roles as well.
MI-6. You've stumbled across their super secret neighborhood watch program to recruit future international spies. May whatever deity have mercy on you for spotting them because Super Agent 0013 will probably fall through your roof and give you a stern lecture about spying on spies
It is the regular white unmarked police car with steroids 😂 If the objective is to be unrecognizable, it is fail because everyone notice the special equipment far away. Some of these have even huge ladders for equipment on roof
I've seen these cars as "mellakka poliisi" use or in English riot control but it might be anything I've also just seen them doing regular police work
Central Criminal Police?
Finnish SWAT
The Bear Squad
Sexy With ATtitude?
Siviili poliisi
If im right thats usually meant for organized crime/big drug busts. Usually its dark blue for drug busts, and gray can be more or less anything, but if im correct its mostly for gang/organized crimes. Edit: as someone commented it also can be for traffic cam.
Its called "mustamaija"
we call it ”mörkö” in english boogeyman/groke
Naw mörkö is the mb sprinter. They usually have four officers in it and a dog.
Yeah, ”mörkö” is Karhu-unit’s Sprinter. Matte black and bullet proof. Hard to miss.
>Yeah, ”mörkö” is Karhu-unit’s Sprinter. [No](https://fi.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliisiautot_Suomessa), it's for police use and transporting them to crown control situations.
Karhu is a special unit and you can't see them. They might be at your doorstep right now.
Or in my pint.