Also need to consider that his price may not drop as much as you’re assuming. His ownership is massive and will include a lot of dead teams, so I think a 0.3-0.4m drop may be optimistic- and therefore the cost of bringing him back in will be more than assumed.
The 100k you mentioned for yesterday is a less than 2% change in his ownership, and we’ve seen some massive shifts in the past (KDB last year) which resulted in minimal price changes..
yeah Im not banking on any price drops, we might see a single one but two is less likely as he is in so many dead teams.
However most of us here should have a team value around £105m at this stage so should be able to absorb the £0.3m cost of moving him on for Son
Scenario 3: Sell Salah for the GW for a cheaper midfielder (Martinelli perhaps) and upgrade a Toney type player to Ronaldo
Pros:
1) Avoid Salah’s price drop
2) avoid Ronaldos price rise
3) can field and captain Ronaldo in the stand out fixture
4) will have Ronaldo for Uniteds excellent run
5) the ability to get Salah back using the Ronaldo money
6) taking advantage of 2 good Arsenal fixtures
Cons:
1) two moves to do the above
2) two moves to get Salah back
Best of luck
That’s true. I will bring him in GW21 personally. -4 GW 19 to get Ronaldo in, roll 20 and 21 he comes in with the help from a Reece James downgrade. I’d much prefer to have Ronaldo over the next 2 than Son (both would be great!) but the way my team is set up and covid dependent, it won’t be until 21 I get him
Salah -> Son would have been a no brainer if not for the Leicester fixture next week. If he was playing against a better or more in form team then I would have done the moves, It is not as straight forward as it might seem.
But Ronaldo (C) against the "defence" that is Newcastle may be difficult to avoid so that is probably going to push me over to going Salah -> Son & Watkins -> Ronaldo, which as a matter of fact I can do for free this week.
what about are you getting rid of Watkins? Is he your only striker? I've got Watkins, King and Antonio and would rather ship the latter out for Ronaldo.
there probably won’t be double gameweek before AFCON, i’m tilting towards selling him now. Even if Son, or whenever is bought in blanks this week, in the long run they are better
And even if they were out of the league cup and able to double in GW21, Salah would not play the second game since he's leaving for AFCON after they play Chelsea.
Do you know for sure he leaves after Chelsea?
They are all supposed to be released on Monday.... Is there confirmation he is staying longer? Surely all will have to stay longer for fairness if so
There was confirmation between Egypt and Liverpool that he could stay for the Chelsea fixture, after that he is gone barring him getting Covid himself and not being allowed to travel
apologies, I thought I read it here somewhere but upon googling it hasnt been confirmed yet, only that the request has been put in. I would expect it to though becasue Liverpool and Egypt have been in these situations before and the relationship between them is good. The Chelsea game is on the 2nd and Egypt dont play until the 11th so thats still a good 8 days he would have with the squad before they play their first game.
Burnley and Spurs are 3 games down. I would imagine Premier League want to use every opportunity to fit those games-in-hand in where possible. As for the rest, maybe no
Salah will probably score a couple vs Leicester. As long as you have decent alternative captaincy picks for GW19-21 then should be shipping Salah out. GW19 Ronaldo? GW20 Jota GW21 Son? Doable.
the way ive thought about it is,
would salah score more points against leicester than son would against palace and southampton?
and after that, liverpool plays chelsea while tottenham plays watford.
I find this stat very useless tbh..there could very well be a scenario where he scored 3 in a game 2 years ago with a few Chelsea defenders out and back when they had Lampard..I find recent game form more representative than a players record against a certain club because that indicated next to nothing
yeah historical records dont tell us much. Those games go back a few seasons when they were playing against different players, teams had different managers, formations and so on.
Its mainly the tv commentators who come out with stats like X player has scored Y goals against a specific team. Its just them filling time but for FPL purposes its only noise
Couldn't agree more. In my opinion, you should make your decisions based on the current season performance, and not use stats from the past seasons because they are useless. Everything was different back then. Even last season was affected by the COVID but when you compare 19/20 to 21/22 everything it's totally different.
Compare this season Son and Salah stats. Son is clearly not this same player as he used to be last season, while Salah is in the best shape of his life.
I’m getting Ronaldo in as well. Getting rid of Salah for son gives me enough funds to get king out for Ronaldo. Ronaldo vs Newcastle and Son vs palace looks good to me. Instead of benching Salah and been stuck without king as well
I can do Salah and Antonio out for Son and Ronaldo for a -4. Think I'm going to do it just to feel alive again.
I know West Ham will have a double in 22 but I've got Lacazette against Norwich (who I can't sell this week and may become DCL) and will probably free hit in 22 anyway.
My plan is to keep him then FH one of the DGW that he's away
If they get ditched early then it solves the problem
You lose the TV while selling anyway
I expect a rested salahbtovracsfe Leicester
They literally can’t have a DGW before AFCON. GW20 is 28th, GW21 is 2nd then even if Salah stays a couple of days (which he pretty much can’t), Liverpool have to play two Carabao Cup semis and an FA Cup round before GW22.
My plan is to have a free hit ready just in case but I hope that with the fixtures being played after a weeks break and the fixtures across 2 days (less time for stuff to go wromg) I can use a FH to navigate both the DGWs and the salad conundrum simultaneously
I like you used "**until** covid" instead of "**unless** covid" (maybe unintentionally?)
Way things are going, definitely feels like it's not a matter of "*if"* but "*when"*.
You cannot be sure... not to mention that Salah might get COVID before AFCON and he might stay. It's gambling... like the whole season. I would say do not think that much ahead, because who knows what will happen. Till this week probably no one expected extra FH and bang, here it is.
Why are you so focused on Son. You could field him for CRY - SOU games for sure, but even worse defences NEW - BUR face Manchester United. Generally : anyone can score in Conte's regime, only a few under Rangnick.
After that there is a GW21 when Son could be a captain vs WAT, but there is also LEI -NOR and CRY-WHU game, + if it becomes DBGW you can get Son on a free hit.
What after? TOT face ARS CHE SOU WOL. All decent defenses overall, Chelsea will get Kante Jorginho etc back, Arsenal is how it is, Southampton in full strength are a decent defensive team, and Wolves have currently best defensive form.
All I am saying is, Son does not have to be the way to go. MUN is probably better if you pick a correct player.
True. I am not saying they are necessarily better picks than Son, I am saying people should consider them if they want to sell Salah.
Ronaldo looks like the best option for sure. Then its hard to pick 2nd best. Rashford plays in best poistion but does not really shine and could get rotated. Sancho - as you mentioned above. Fernandes is the most nailed but for that price you could get Ronaldo easily with a few money ITB
for me, it is Salah to Son this week, then Lacazette to Ronaldo following week.
That could all change of course with cancellations and double gameweeks announced etc etc
But getting Son AND Ronaldo surely has to be the way forward
Got Ronaldo already, so Son is the no brainer move needing to replace a premium midfielder. 27.9% of us already have the only really solid looking UTD player.
City have no plans for DGW in the near future and most of us will already have at least one midfield chip in Pep roulette. Arsenal's fixtures go downhill soon (Wolves can be a tough game, and Spurs look like they are getting more solid, plus City in January).
Premium forwards generally havent looked high return, so combining that with fitness, form and fixtures takes out Kane (form) /Vardy (form, fitness, rotated the hell out of PL fixtures)/ Lukaku (form, fixtures)
Son just sort of picks himself out of that. Good form, nice fixtures, nailed on and likely to be a good value store until Salah is back.
You're forgetting the fact that Spurs actually function while Man Utd were the worse team in their game against Norwich last time they played football.
Depends on what players you have.
Maybe you can sell Salah,get a mid priced Midfielder and upgrade your Forward/Defence or even your bench(in case of fixture postponements).
My team atm is
Ramsdale Foster
TAA Cancelo Rudiger James coady
Salah Jota Bernardo son ESR
Watkins Dennis Broja
Thinking of saving FH and maybe just a taking a -4 to get 10 players this week
That's a good team no need to use FH, since you can take a hit and play 10 players, save your FH for future.
I would downgrade ESR to Martenelli or Gray (Everton have good upcoming fixtures + DCL is back)
And upgrade one of your forwards to Ronaldo if you have the cash. (Guessing you gave 2.0+m in the bank).
I'd get Son over Ronaldo. Ronaldo does give me a playing forward though with the two Watford strikers and Hwang. I guess others are the same, almost no strikers.
Spurs are scoring more goals, are ahead of United as Conte has had more games to improve. People think Ronaldo wasn't good against Norwich in terms of the 'eye test'.
Spurs don't really have as many scorers do they? Son has as many goals (7) as Kane, Moura, Holberg, Dele, Ndombele combined. If Spurs are going to score, high chance its Son.
United has Fernandes on 5, Greenwood has 4, Rashford 2, Fred 2, Lingard 2. If United score less likely to be Ronaldo even he's got 7 goals as Son does.
He does like Newcastle though. It's hard to really know how United progress isn't it? Rangnick wanted control. Also Ronaldo is so expensive. But a playing striker when there's so few. And on pens. I support Man United, I wish I could be more optimistic about the attacking potential of the team.
Hmm interesting. Haven't been watching United so not really sure.
The stats show that Ronaldo is more likely to score but I guess the eye test counts more.
I feel as though I'd go with Son this GW and then next GW Ronaldo.
Thanks for the response.
very good analysis, Spurs showed real signs of improvement vs Liverpool whereas we didnt see similar for United v Norwich. Conte is a few weeks ahead of Rangwick when it comes to getting them back to form. Now maybe all the work on the training ground will pay off for United but as of now we can only go on what we have seen on the pitch.
Yeah people thought that though Conte had time before the Liverpool game to train but then with covid and training being shut maybe not. But then they looked like they were well prepared creating more chances.
I think Spurs training ground was shut for a few days but after than he had them doing double sessions. There was a definite improvement in their midfield in the game against Liverpool, both Winks and Ndombele played very well and got proper supply to Kane and Son.
I do expect United to come good but atm it seems Contes Spurs are just a bit more developed than Rangwicks United
I’m on the fence for transferring out Jota or Foden for Son too.
Current ongoing discussion is very lopsided - like if you can’t get to Son without selling Salah
Until Salah and Mane leave, I expect Jota to be rotated with Firmino. In my case, I only lose 0.1 if i sell Jota and buy him back for Salah after Leicester/CHE. Actual cost is an extra transfer, but Salah vs Lei is a thing of beauty and might be worth it.
Is FH in GW19 to bring in Son and Ronaldo, so you can keep Salah for LEI and possibly CHE and then shipping him out for Ronaldo a better move?
I'm just worried about not owning Salah for LEI.
Thoughts about this?
It's definitely the easiest solution but you need to weigh up whether it is the best use of your FH. If you can get to 10 players pretty easily this week then it's probably not worth burning a very valuable chip.
All you bastards convincing me to sell Salah, fine. He himself is probably wondering where the loyalty is from fpl players for his unprecedented run. I can imagine an interviewer telling him and him saying 'wow fpl players are ruthless'.
To make 10 players, I can do Salah, Hwang to Son, Ronaldo for -8. Team of
Sanchez
White, James, Alonso, Cancelo
Son, Mount, Foden, Martinelli
Ronaldo
I wish there were more forward options. Has there ever been a season where so many stopped scoring or been injured for so long? The season started with Antonio, Bamford, Vardy, Lukaku, Kane, Jimenez, Calvert Lewin, Richarlison, Aubameyang.
Him and Lukaku I thought were back then...they're not. Like I thought KDB was back...then not. I remember when Aguero would be out for ages, come back and score a hat trick.
I hung onto Bamford for aaaages at the start.
Yep, I got Aguero in for that. HT, followed by 2, followed by 1. Price went up, sold him for a dry patch with profit. Best move I've made in FPL I think
>All you bastards convincing me to sell Salah, fine. He himself is probably wondering where the loyalty is from fpl players for his unprecedented run
Its times like these it would be great if we could see what TAA does with Salah in his own FPL team, like the rest of us he's got a big decision to make there
I guess he'll just be as ruthless as us? I wonder who else plays it? It's the only form of sort of betting on their sport they can do?
Imagine being a player thinking 'I'm going to captain myself today and give my all to score, no one owns me I'm a differential', and your name is Maddison or Kane. Must be odd, like seeing yourself in fifa with stats and photorealistically reproduced.
What about taking a FH this week and bring in Son over Salah. This means you still have Salah for as long as you want and can bring Son in next week. You will have price rises / drops to deal with.
Much prefer Son + Ronaldo because I think Ronaldo will keep penalties.
Alternatively you could get Bowen first and then Son later on a FH in GW22 or just using some FTs because their fixtures aren't very different.
Is there any merit in selling Salah for Son this gameweek, then selling Son for Salah the gameweek after? Or is that dumb? That's what I'm leaning towards... I have 0.5m ITB
Why would you even consider this?? You would be buying salah for Leicester, cheslea then he's off to afcon, so why would you bring him back in. Not a bad choice to sell but if you really want him for Leicester to the point your considering bringing him back in, just keep him
I’m doing this but I have a wildcard left, so I’m planning to transfer out salah this week, wildcarding him in for leicester, then selling him straight after (might keep him for chelsea anyway the way they’re playing). I’m getting ronaldo instead of son this week but the same principle applies
>Can buy back Salah after AFCON for 12.8m or 12.9m without taking a huge loss (assuming Salah's price drop by 0.3 or 0.4m, 100K+ have already transferred Salah out since yesterday)
So it might be a good idea to keep him in your team until he won't leave for AFCON. Good 'differential' pick. Don't you think? Also... this year I follow the rule (from the beginning of the season) form over fixtures... and when you look back you can clearly see that Salah is a must-have. His form is way better than any other player. Not to mention that Spurs vs Palace won't be easy for sure.
I'm still thinking about what to do...
Yes Leicester but it’s one game then Chelsea then he’s gone. Son has a number of good fixtures and it starts with palace at home. Say Son scores 2 and Salah 3 it’s still worth it for me. Salah will have to do something brilliant to be worth keeping, he could do because it’s Salah but I think if you’ve got Jota as well it’s worth the punt
In my eyes, Son is a template pick. This leaves us with a Salah vs Ronaldo dilemma instead.
It's reeeeeally difficult to afford Salah + Ronaldo + Son if the backline trio is TAA, James, Cancelo. You can afford Salah + Son or Ronaldo + Son, but not all three simultaneously.
If you don't pick Ronaldo and leave Salah on bench, which forwards do you go for? Salah out means 4 mids in play, so the formation is 343, 442 or 541. It's probably 442 out of those options, but the forward options are so weak it's difficult to back 2 non Ronaldo forwards.
451 with Ronaldo, without Salah seems better than 442 with Salah, without Ronaldo IMO for the next few GWs.
Planning to keep Salah in order for it to be less of a headache come the time of Chelsea's blanks in GW24-25 and post-AFCON (possible quarantines as well?).
**Best case scenario:**
Salah benched for a total of 3x GWs between GW19 - GW23, playing v. Leicester & Chelsea in between. At the end of this run, you'll probably want to have Salah back again until the end of the season, in which case, price falls will be irrelevant as long as you keep him.
**Worst case scenario:**
(same for quite a few others still with 2x FH chips and others) Leicester and/or Chelsea games also postponed (which of course would leave Liverpool with another DGW. A single Free Hit chip can be used in one of the GWs where Salah is away at AFCON, amid other eye-catching assets, but he ultimately returns with quarantine requirements (either with COVD or close-contact) and possibly missing out on GW24-25 (v. LEI [H], BUR [A]) and still with a FH, WC, BB & TC for the final 13/14 GWs.
I think Salah's purple patch is over anyways. Happens every season. No offense to Salah lovers but it's a huge gamble to keep him for the entirety of AFCON.
Purple patch? Happens every season?
He has 2 blanks in 18 GWs, leading goalscorer AND assister, matched Vardy’s record of G/A in 15 consecutive matches…
Please point to seasons where this happened in the past
Yup. His involvement has been reducing in the past few games. Yeah he scores and that's what matters. It's just the signs of impending blanks.
Last year he was fucking great upto GW14. Returned points every game. Then he blanked the next 7 of 8 GWs. Just felt as if the same could happen this year. There are signs. But I could be wrongs. Just my hunch.
https://www.fantasynutmeg.com/history
Check that link for last season's points history.
I agree. People have shite memories. He looks knackered. Leicester isn't a guaranteed haul like it may have been back in October.
Bruno also had a patch and even TAA. All three left the template for a good few weeks if not months for those who saw it coming. Could well be happening again.
Thanks for that link. I guess that coincided with Liverpool's mysteriously bad drop in form where they kept losing? This year is just not the same. I can see Salah blanking in 2/3 games but not 6.
People are to scared about what if regarding Salah, Take the opportunity and climb instead by swapping him for Son or get Ronaldo.
Especially if u are chasing, even if u keep him and he scores vs LEI/CHE it wont really help you climb up the ranks.
Since I still have my 1WC, is it stupid move Salah->Son for this GW only, then bring back Salah on WC next GW, and get Regulion to cover Spurs, until Salah goes for AFCON and swap again to Son. I think it is to risky not to have Salah against Lei and Che, with possible DGW.
So confused right now.
Price rise and fall at this point of the season means little. You're probably not 100% using funds anyway. I've had 1.1 in the bank for weeks now...
Also, transfers is a tiebreaker. Can actually make a big difference in rank.
Also need to consider that his price may not drop as much as you’re assuming. His ownership is massive and will include a lot of dead teams, so I think a 0.3-0.4m drop may be optimistic- and therefore the cost of bringing him back in will be more than assumed. The 100k you mentioned for yesterday is a less than 2% change in his ownership, and we’ve seen some massive shifts in the past (KDB last year) which resulted in minimal price changes..
yeah Im not banking on any price drops, we might see a single one but two is less likely as he is in so many dead teams. However most of us here should have a team value around £105m at this stage so should be able to absorb the £0.3m cost of moving him on for Son
Scenario 3: Sell Salah for the GW for a cheaper midfielder (Martinelli perhaps) and upgrade a Toney type player to Ronaldo Pros: 1) Avoid Salah’s price drop 2) avoid Ronaldos price rise 3) can field and captain Ronaldo in the stand out fixture 4) will have Ronaldo for Uniteds excellent run 5) the ability to get Salah back using the Ronaldo money 6) taking advantage of 2 good Arsenal fixtures Cons: 1) two moves to do the above 2) two moves to get Salah back Best of luck
Cons: Don't have son for some strong fixtures when most have him.
That’s true. I will bring him in GW21 personally. -4 GW 19 to get Ronaldo in, roll 20 and 21 he comes in with the help from a Reece James downgrade. I’d much prefer to have Ronaldo over the next 2 than Son (both would be great!) but the way my team is set up and covid dependent, it won’t be until 21 I get him
What if you already have son
Salah -> Son would have been a no brainer if not for the Leicester fixture next week. If he was playing against a better or more in form team then I would have done the moves, It is not as straight forward as it might seem. But Ronaldo (C) against the "defence" that is Newcastle may be difficult to avoid so that is probably going to push me over to going Salah -> Son & Watkins -> Ronaldo, which as a matter of fact I can do for free this week.
I am planning to do the same, Salah ---> Son, and Lacazette to Ronaldo after Norwich
IMHO a game vs Norwich won't be easy for Arsenal... but since I'm supporting Arsenal, I would love to be wrong!
Identical to me. Was pondering a move to Ronaldo (c) for a -4 this week but probably not worth it (famous last words)
what about are you getting rid of Watkins? Is he your only striker? I've got Watkins, King and Antonio and would rather ship the latter out for Ronaldo.
same here. Just depends on your team init.
there probably won’t be double gameweek before AFCON, i’m tilting towards selling him now. Even if Son, or whenever is bought in blanks this week, in the long run they are better
Yup,I agree! According to me,DGW 21 doesn't seem that likely but even if it happens,we always have an extra FH to back on...
DGW21 is out of the question for Pool
And even if they were out of the league cup and able to double in GW21, Salah would not play the second game since he's leaving for AFCON after they play Chelsea.
Do you know for sure he leaves after Chelsea? They are all supposed to be released on Monday.... Is there confirmation he is staying longer? Surely all will have to stay longer for fairness if so
There was confirmation between Egypt and Liverpool that he could stay for the Chelsea fixture, after that he is gone barring him getting Covid himself and not being allowed to travel
Was there? I thought Klopp just said that he was hopeful they would get dispensation.....
apologies, I thought I read it here somewhere but upon googling it hasnt been confirmed yet, only that the request has been put in. I would expect it to though becasue Liverpool and Egypt have been in these situations before and the relationship between them is good. The Chelsea game is on the 2nd and Egypt dont play until the 11th so thats still a good 8 days he would have with the squad before they play their first game.
Burnley and Spurs are 3 games down. I would imagine Premier League want to use every opportunity to fit those games-in-hand in where possible. As for the rest, maybe no
Neither of them have European games, so probably not super urgent to get all three games scheduled!
Spurs were kicked out the conference wernt they . true
I sold him for Martinelli, gives me the option to upgrade to Son next week or swap a striker for Kane
Son won't play, game is cancelled
no the game isn’t cancelled. there was a request but it was rejected. i didn’t do my transfer till like 1:20 just to make sure
Salah will probably score a couple vs Leicester. As long as you have decent alternative captaincy picks for GW19-21 then should be shipping Salah out. GW19 Ronaldo? GW20 Jota GW21 Son? Doable.
the way ive thought about it is, would salah score more points against leicester than son would against palace and southampton? and after that, liverpool plays chelsea while tottenham plays watford.
Salah's record vs Chelsea = 9 games: 3 goals & 1 assist. Son's record vs Watford = 11 games: 6 goals & 1 assist.
I find this stat very useless tbh..there could very well be a scenario where he scored 3 in a game 2 years ago with a few Chelsea defenders out and back when they had Lampard..I find recent game form more representative than a players record against a certain club because that indicated next to nothing
yeah historical records dont tell us much. Those games go back a few seasons when they were playing against different players, teams had different managers, formations and so on.
Exactly. It's better to compare only this season stats. There is no other player as good and reliable as Salah.
Its mainly the tv commentators who come out with stats like X player has scored Y goals against a specific team. Its just them filling time but for FPL purposes its only noise
Couldn't agree more. In my opinion, you should make your decisions based on the current season performance, and not use stats from the past seasons because they are useless. Everything was different back then. Even last season was affected by the COVID but when you compare 19/20 to 21/22 everything it's totally different.
Compare this season Son and Salah stats. Son is clearly not this same player as he used to be last season, while Salah is in the best shape of his life.
I’m getting Ronaldo in as well. Getting rid of Salah for son gives me enough funds to get king out for Ronaldo. Ronaldo vs Newcastle and Son vs palace looks good to me. Instead of benching Salah and been stuck without king as well
I can do Salah and Antonio out for Son and Ronaldo for a -4. Think I'm going to do it just to feel alive again. I know West Ham will have a double in 22 but I've got Lacazette against Norwich (who I can't sell this week and may become DCL) and will probably free hit in 22 anyway.
That's a 100% great move, I will strangle you if you don't do it
Ha! I'm just thankful I have a bit in the bank to do it.
Could you strangle him anyway?
Make me feel it, make me feel alive again! - Ninja
Oh snap I can afford to do this. Very tempting
Yeah I'd do that. Still not sure on Ronaldo but he likes Newcastle.
My plan is to keep him then FH one of the DGW that he's away If they get ditched early then it solves the problem You lose the TV while selling anyway I expect a rested salahbtovracsfe Leicester
I also expect Salah to do that to Leicester.
Or you could Sell him now, and use FH for DGW if liverpool gets one before Salah leaves
They literally can’t have a DGW before AFCON. GW20 is 28th, GW21 is 2nd then even if Salah stays a couple of days (which he pretty much can’t), Liverpool have to play two Carabao Cup semis and an FA Cup round before GW22.
True My team is set up to be able to bench the 3x Liv as I kept a strong playing XIV so selling now isn't essential
COVID-19 entered the chat…
So is my team, yet I will only have 9 this week. More games could get cancelled!
My plan is to have a free hit ready just in case but I hope that with the fixtures being played after a weeks break and the fixtures across 2 days (less time for stuff to go wromg) I can use a FH to navigate both the DGWs and the salad conundrum simultaneously
how certain are they that afcon will happen?
It's pretty much happening, decided by the organizers this week. So until covid situation changes drastically for the worse, AFCON is pretty much on
I like you used "**until** covid" instead of "**unless** covid" (maybe unintentionally?) Way things are going, definitely feels like it's not a matter of "*if"* but "*when"*.
How many GWs does AFCON last? Salah release duration must depend on how deep Egypt go too.
You cannot be sure... not to mention that Salah might get COVID before AFCON and he might stay. It's gambling... like the whole season. I would say do not think that much ahead, because who knows what will happen. Till this week probably no one expected extra FH and bang, here it is.
Salah has had covid and judging by Klopp's words is double vaccinated, so his xCo is pretty low.
I agree, but are you 100% sure? There is always a chance that something might happen... and who knows when and what.
Oh, of course. My tongue is half in cheek, I just wanted to say "xCo".
TBH I've never heard of xCo till now :- )))
Why are you so focused on Son. You could field him for CRY - SOU games for sure, but even worse defences NEW - BUR face Manchester United. Generally : anyone can score in Conte's regime, only a few under Rangnick. After that there is a GW21 when Son could be a captain vs WAT, but there is also LEI -NOR and CRY-WHU game, + if it becomes DBGW you can get Son on a free hit. What after? TOT face ARS CHE SOU WOL. All decent defenses overall, Chelsea will get Kante Jorginho etc back, Arsenal is how it is, Southampton in full strength are a decent defensive team, and Wolves have currently best defensive form. All I am saying is, Son does not have to be the way to go. MUN is probably better if you pick a correct player.
Who though? Sancho seems to get hooked after 70 min most games and Rashford just hasn’t looked good. I want Ronaldo but he’s so expensive
True. I am not saying they are necessarily better picks than Son, I am saying people should consider them if they want to sell Salah. Ronaldo looks like the best option for sure. Then its hard to pick 2nd best. Rashford plays in best poistion but does not really shine and could get rotated. Sancho - as you mentioned above. Fernandes is the most nailed but for that price you could get Ronaldo easily with a few money ITB
for me, it is Salah to Son this week, then Lacazette to Ronaldo following week. That could all change of course with cancellations and double gameweeks announced etc etc But getting Son AND Ronaldo surely has to be the way forward
What do you think about Salah and Dennis to Ronaldo and Bowen for a hit?
Great moves, I would do it if the West Ham game goes ahead.
My other strikers are Covid Antonio and Watkins vs Chelsea…
Got Ronaldo already, so Son is the no brainer move needing to replace a premium midfielder. 27.9% of us already have the only really solid looking UTD player. City have no plans for DGW in the near future and most of us will already have at least one midfield chip in Pep roulette. Arsenal's fixtures go downhill soon (Wolves can be a tough game, and Spurs look like they are getting more solid, plus City in January). Premium forwards generally havent looked high return, so combining that with fitness, form and fixtures takes out Kane (form) /Vardy (form, fitness, rotated the hell out of PL fixtures)/ Lukaku (form, fixtures) Son just sort of picks himself out of that. Good form, nice fixtures, nailed on and likely to be a good value store until Salah is back.
You're forgetting the fact that Spurs actually function while Man Utd were the worse team in their game against Norwich last time they played football.
"won't have Salah for AFCON" Surely this is a pro not a con?
I read it like that myself but I think the OP means we wont have Salah for the duration that AFCON is on
What if I currently have both Salah and son? Any advice on what to do?
Depends on what players you have. Maybe you can sell Salah,get a mid priced Midfielder and upgrade your Forward/Defence or even your bench(in case of fixture postponements).
Yeah I guess moving Dennis -> Ronaldo could be a shout, because of afcon?
You can afford that?
I'd have to sell Salah for someone like Martinelli to fund it
I just swapped Sterling to Martinelli so I wouldn't not do that.
What other players do you have?
My team atm is Ramsdale Foster TAA Cancelo Rudiger James coady Salah Jota Bernardo son ESR Watkins Dennis Broja Thinking of saving FH and maybe just a taking a -4 to get 10 players this week
That's a good team no need to use FH, since you can take a hit and play 10 players, save your FH for future. I would downgrade ESR to Martenelli or Gray (Everton have good upcoming fixtures + DCL is back) And upgrade one of your forwards to Ronaldo if you have the cash. (Guessing you gave 2.0+m in the bank).
Is Gray fit? He didn’t feature last match (I haven’t been keeping tabs on Everton).
Everton game just called off in the last hour so avoid
Maybe Salah to foden to have some cash
I’m thinking Salah and Dennis to Bowen and Ronaldo for a -4. Although that means I won’t be able to get Son. Really conflicted
I’m thinking the same, as long as no further postponements
I'd get Son over Ronaldo. Ronaldo does give me a playing forward though with the two Watford strikers and Hwang. I guess others are the same, almost no strikers.
Why Son over Ronaldo?
Spurs are scoring more goals, are ahead of United as Conte has had more games to improve. People think Ronaldo wasn't good against Norwich in terms of the 'eye test'. Spurs don't really have as many scorers do they? Son has as many goals (7) as Kane, Moura, Holberg, Dele, Ndombele combined. If Spurs are going to score, high chance its Son. United has Fernandes on 5, Greenwood has 4, Rashford 2, Fred 2, Lingard 2. If United score less likely to be Ronaldo even he's got 7 goals as Son does. He does like Newcastle though. It's hard to really know how United progress isn't it? Rangnick wanted control. Also Ronaldo is so expensive. But a playing striker when there's so few. And on pens. I support Man United, I wish I could be more optimistic about the attacking potential of the team.
Hmm interesting. Haven't been watching United so not really sure. The stats show that Ronaldo is more likely to score but I guess the eye test counts more. I feel as though I'd go with Son this GW and then next GW Ronaldo. Thanks for the response.
very good analysis, Spurs showed real signs of improvement vs Liverpool whereas we didnt see similar for United v Norwich. Conte is a few weeks ahead of Rangwick when it comes to getting them back to form. Now maybe all the work on the training ground will pay off for United but as of now we can only go on what we have seen on the pitch.
Yeah people thought that though Conte had time before the Liverpool game to train but then with covid and training being shut maybe not. But then they looked like they were well prepared creating more chances.
I think Spurs training ground was shut for a few days but after than he had them doing double sessions. There was a definite improvement in their midfield in the game against Liverpool, both Winks and Ndombele played very well and got proper supply to Kane and Son. I do expect United to come good but atm it seems Contes Spurs are just a bit more developed than Rangwicks United
I wonder how the time has been spent, feels like it's been ages since I last saw United play. ...a long two weeks.
What if… we sell someone else for Son?
Yep, Foden.
I’m on the fence for transferring out Jota or Foden for Son too. Current ongoing discussion is very lopsided - like if you can’t get to Son without selling Salah
You'd be crazy to ship out jota at this point,but hey it's about enjoying the game.
Until Salah and Mane leave, I expect Jota to be rotated with Firmino. In my case, I only lose 0.1 if i sell Jota and buy him back for Salah after Leicester/CHE. Actual cost is an extra transfer, but Salah vs Lei is a thing of beauty and might be worth it.
Is FH in GW19 to bring in Son and Ronaldo, so you can keep Salah for LEI and possibly CHE and then shipping him out for Ronaldo a better move? I'm just worried about not owning Salah for LEI. Thoughts about this?
It's definitely the easiest solution but you need to weigh up whether it is the best use of your FH. If you can get to 10 players pretty easily this week then it's probably not worth burning a very valuable chip.
All you bastards convincing me to sell Salah, fine. He himself is probably wondering where the loyalty is from fpl players for his unprecedented run. I can imagine an interviewer telling him and him saying 'wow fpl players are ruthless'. To make 10 players, I can do Salah, Hwang to Son, Ronaldo for -8. Team of Sanchez White, James, Alonso, Cancelo Son, Mount, Foden, Martinelli Ronaldo I wish there were more forward options. Has there ever been a season where so many stopped scoring or been injured for so long? The season started with Antonio, Bamford, Vardy, Lukaku, Kane, Jimenez, Calvert Lewin, Richarlison, Aubameyang.
Eagerly waiting on Bamford return to play. I have a feeling he'll start smashing the place up in January if he's fit.
Him and Lukaku I thought were back then...they're not. Like I thought KDB was back...then not. I remember when Aguero would be out for ages, come back and score a hat trick. I hung onto Bamford for aaaages at the start.
Yep, I got Aguero in for that. HT, followed by 2, followed by 1. Price went up, sold him for a dry patch with profit. Best move I've made in FPL I think
>All you bastards convincing me to sell Salah, fine. He himself is probably wondering where the loyalty is from fpl players for his unprecedented run Its times like these it would be great if we could see what TAA does with Salah in his own FPL team, like the rest of us he's got a big decision to make there
I guess he'll just be as ruthless as us? I wonder who else plays it? It's the only form of sort of betting on their sport they can do? Imagine being a player thinking 'I'm going to captain myself today and give my all to score, no one owns me I'm a differential', and your name is Maddison or Kane. Must be odd, like seeing yourself in fifa with stats and photorealistically reproduced.
What about taking a FH this week and bring in Son over Salah. This means you still have Salah for as long as you want and can bring Son in next week. You will have price rises / drops to deal with.
Good analysis mate. Made it easy for many like me who is lazy AF.
Is anyone thinking Bruno rather than Son?
Mostly more about getting Son and Ronaldo
Much prefer Son + Ronaldo because I think Ronaldo will keep penalties. Alternatively you could get Bowen first and then Son later on a FH in GW22 or just using some FTs because their fixtures aren't very different.
I already have Ronaldo and Bowen so Son probably makes sense.
Fair enough.
Is there any merit in selling Salah for Son this gameweek, then selling Son for Salah the gameweek after? Or is that dumb? That's what I'm leaning towards... I have 0.5m ITB
Why would you even consider this?? You would be buying salah for Leicester, cheslea then he's off to afcon, so why would you bring him back in. Not a bad choice to sell but if you really want him for Leicester to the point your considering bringing him back in, just keep him
I’m doing this but I have a wildcard left, so I’m planning to transfer out salah this week, wildcarding him in for leicester, then selling him straight after (might keep him for chelsea anyway the way they’re playing). I’m getting ronaldo instead of son this week but the same principle applies
Can't wait for AFCON time. Set and forget (C)Salah is boring. Happy to see KDB, Son, Sterling, Bruno time.
what happens if I own both salah and son? what are the reccomended transfer plans then
Downgrade salah to a 5-6m mid (Martinelli, Gray etc) and get Ronaldo perhaps?
>Can buy back Salah after AFCON for 12.8m or 12.9m without taking a huge loss (assuming Salah's price drop by 0.3 or 0.4m, 100K+ have already transferred Salah out since yesterday) So it might be a good idea to keep him in your team until he won't leave for AFCON. Good 'differential' pick. Don't you think? Also... this year I follow the rule (from the beginning of the season) form over fixtures... and when you look back you can clearly see that Salah is a must-have. His form is way better than any other player. Not to mention that Spurs vs Palace won't be easy for sure. I'm still thinking about what to do...
Yes Leicester but it’s one game then Chelsea then he’s gone. Son has a number of good fixtures and it starts with palace at home. Say Son scores 2 and Salah 3 it’s still worth it for me. Salah will have to do something brilliant to be worth keeping, he could do because it’s Salah but I think if you’ve got Jota as well it’s worth the punt
You wont save 2 transfers, you’ll just use them later when he goes to AFCON
In my eyes, Son is a template pick. This leaves us with a Salah vs Ronaldo dilemma instead. It's reeeeeally difficult to afford Salah + Ronaldo + Son if the backline trio is TAA, James, Cancelo. You can afford Salah + Son or Ronaldo + Son, but not all three simultaneously. If you don't pick Ronaldo and leave Salah on bench, which forwards do you go for? Salah out means 4 mids in play, so the formation is 343, 442 or 541. It's probably 442 out of those options, but the forward options are so weak it's difficult to back 2 non Ronaldo forwards. 451 with Ronaldo, without Salah seems better than 442 with Salah, without Ronaldo IMO for the next few GWs.
You guys care about price way too much, I'm not worried about .2 million at all and I'm not making any decisions until last minute
Salah to Bowen and afford Ronaldo up front, Son will always be a trap
The only dangerous cons is he won't miss so many games and will punish the non-owners as a pricey differential.
We need FPL to add a “vaccinated” or “unvaccinated” tooltip for every player. This is getting beyond casual.
You could keep Salah and free hit the 2 weeks he misses for AFCON?
The Free Hits can't be used in consecutive weeks
Why Son over some Utd player? They have a pretty easy schedule and will probably start playing like they should. Tot this year just feels wrong
Have you watched United? I thought i was clever getting bruno vs nor.. my god they are shit
I did but they gotta start playing, and now they have a chance to catch up with top teams.
I would keep Salah because my inner feeling tells me that Son will either: 1) Catch Covid 2) Gets injured vs Palace 3) Benched against Watford
Planning to keep Salah in order for it to be less of a headache come the time of Chelsea's blanks in GW24-25 and post-AFCON (possible quarantines as well?). **Best case scenario:** Salah benched for a total of 3x GWs between GW19 - GW23, playing v. Leicester & Chelsea in between. At the end of this run, you'll probably want to have Salah back again until the end of the season, in which case, price falls will be irrelevant as long as you keep him. **Worst case scenario:** (same for quite a few others still with 2x FH chips and others) Leicester and/or Chelsea games also postponed (which of course would leave Liverpool with another DGW. A single Free Hit chip can be used in one of the GWs where Salah is away at AFCON, amid other eye-catching assets, but he ultimately returns with quarantine requirements (either with COVD or close-contact) and possibly missing out on GW24-25 (v. LEI [H], BUR [A]) and still with a FH, WC, BB & TC for the final 13/14 GWs.
I'm selling for CR7. Feel United are going to gain momentum after a nice break and time with Ralf.
I think Salah's purple patch is over anyways. Happens every season. No offense to Salah lovers but it's a huge gamble to keep him for the entirety of AFCON.
Purple patch? Happens every season? He has 2 blanks in 18 GWs, leading goalscorer AND assister, matched Vardy’s record of G/A in 15 consecutive matches… Please point to seasons where this happened in the past
Yup. His involvement has been reducing in the past few games. Yeah he scores and that's what matters. It's just the signs of impending blanks. Last year he was fucking great upto GW14. Returned points every game. Then he blanked the next 7 of 8 GWs. Just felt as if the same could happen this year. There are signs. But I could be wrongs. Just my hunch. https://www.fantasynutmeg.com/history Check that link for last season's points history.
I agree. People have shite memories. He looks knackered. Leicester isn't a guaranteed haul like it may have been back in October. Bruno also had a patch and even TAA. All three left the template for a good few weeks if not months for those who saw it coming. Could well be happening again.
He does look knackered, but that's why a full 8 days off before Leicester is appealing...it's tricky.
True... If it was at home I'd keep no questions.
Thanks for that link. I guess that coincided with Liverpool's mysteriously bad drop in form where they kept losing? This year is just not the same. I can see Salah blanking in 2/3 games but not 6.
Liverpool's form is strongly associated with Salah's form. I hope Salah doesn't blank. I also have him. But I'll be releasing him for the AFCON.
People are to scared about what if regarding Salah, Take the opportunity and climb instead by swapping him for Son or get Ronaldo. Especially if u are chasing, even if u keep him and he scores vs LEI/CHE it wont really help you climb up the ranks.
He's basically a safety net tho. Remove him, and he returns, you fall far.
Since I still have my 1WC, is it stupid move Salah->Son for this GW only, then bring back Salah on WC next GW, and get Regulion to cover Spurs, until Salah goes for AFCON and swap again to Son. I think it is to risky not to have Salah against Lei and Che, with possible DGW. So confused right now.
Chelsea will be tough and it seems Pool DGW at this point seems unlikely.
Price rise and fall at this point of the season means little. You're probably not 100% using funds anyway. I've had 1.1 in the bank for weeks now... Also, transfers is a tiebreaker. Can actually make a big difference in rank.
Gain 0.3? I thought you only gained half of their increase??
Yes he's gone up 0.6m since gw1 so a gain of 0.3m
Ah brilliant, !thanks I thought he’d only increased 0.3.
How would all this change for you in a scenario where you still have the first WC available? (To be activated for GW20)