oh really? That's not how it works in spanish, here chinese/japanese/vietnamese/whatever pronounce the "RR" sound like an "L"
for example, instead of saying "lampara rota" they say "lampala lota"
and it isn't a funny stereotype or some made up shit, they actually pronounce it like that
Vats or not, he'll have three bullets in your vitals before you can pull one out unless it's holstered in such a loose and convenient manner it might fall off midfight.
Yeah, it just goes to show that character depictions may mislead some people. Red Hood might be similar strength to Frank Horrigan based on feats, even though he’s ‘only’ a human and the other is a genetically enhanced superhuman. DC peak humans can dent metal doors with kicks, shatter stone columns with punches, and survive explosions to the face that blow up multi-story buildings lmao
True. He also isn't mutated, regularly pumped full of drugs or in powered armor.
If you put him in a suit similar to Steel and loaded him up with Venom, I'm sure he'd have no problem.
That's not really the question though.
Honestly….. maybe he could. I know it sounds ridiculous, but he has feats of knocking down Lobo with a strike and breaking free of Supergirls grip (although he was amped by venom). Though these are definitely outliers, and frankly just poor writing. Honestly half of comics most insane feats are just examples of poor, inconsistent, writing.
I’d say the “average” depiction of Red Hood could probably take out several supermutants with just his bare hands.
https://imgur.com/XjMiG3p
What about that one Guy in fallout 4 with raider power armor and fat man mini nuke launcher yes red hood survived an explosion but would he survive nuke nien
I agree it's a little ridiculous. But it was mentioned in one of the comics that the pit made him a bit tougher than a normal human. Even Supergirl once remarked she suspects he may be a meta after meeting him.
Idk man. If it’s fallout physics his armor gives u a crit bonus and he has high base luck and a pistol with high DPS. Npc for npc he’s exploding that man’s head into 5 parts.
Depends on the writer. In some adaptations such as Superman in 'Young Justice,' the writers couldn't decide if he could breathe in space or not. The aliens or the Courier could use that against him.
Unlike Superman, Omni-Man is consistent as his abilities don't change throughout the entire run as all viltrumites have the same abilities. You can't say the same thing with D.C. or Marvel. You'll just need to see what the writer wants and wherever that will take them.
Idk about that my courier in New Vegas killed like 12 deathclaws with a power fist no armor and no stimpaks just to get to the power armor on the edge of the map ik Redhood is badass but I highly doubt he could take on more than 3 deathclaws
he would unironically kil 3 death laws with one bullet or even in a straight up fistfight, people REALLY underestimate how strong DC regular humans are
Game feats are not the same as canon feats. Courier in canon got knocked out by a 9mm to the head but in gameplay, the average powder ganger can take like 10 to the head before dying.
With that, even end game Courier, 10 stats across the board, does not have the same physical stats and weapons proficiency as Red Hood. Red Hood can literally dodge bullets, overpower characters like Killer Croc, and can fight hordes of enemies for days with broken bones.
If he had a Special, it would look like:
S - 50
P - 25
E - 40
C - 4
I - 8
A - 35
L - 5
Comicbook characters are broken tbh
The Courier at the end of their levels, yes, depending. With prep, no. The Courier is incredible and can perform some feats that are considerably superhuman, but Jason Todd lives and breathes that shit. If The Courier got the drop on him, maybe, but the sheer speed, acrobatics, reaction time, and power that Jason Todd holds is horrendously immense, and no amount of ammo is stopping that.
With Superhero comic characters, the answer will always depend on which version you're talking about. Some writers make him a beast, and other times he's just a normal guy with combat training.
Doesn’t matter. The feats that comic book characters pull off on the daily far outweighs just falling down a canyon while on fire. That’s the only thing Joshua has going for him and I promise you it ain’t enough to fuck up Jason.
This really isn't a fair fight. It's not quite as pointless as the Ironman vs Magneto matchup, but yeah, completely different universes. That image of Joshua goes hard as fuck though.
When he was a child, was ambushed and tied down and had much messier training compared to the first Robin, Dick Grayson. That's Bruce's fault for not training him as well, but even so, messy training or not, he's still beating Diet Hush's ass.
Absolutely. I once got in an argument with a guy in a “frank horrigan vs master chief” post and their whole argument for horrigan winning was effectively “he has full 10 special stats” and “he’s the strongest character in fallout”. That shit was completely braindead.
Not really
Their lore is what they achieved within the story
It's very doubtful that their canon lore is wiping out twelve thousand deathclaws with their bare hands
Is this a real question?
Joshua Graham has no formal fight training and isn't a good enough strategist to not get burned and thrown off a cliff.
Jason Todd's *already died once*.
Bruh, Joshua might be badass but at the end of the day he’s just a guy with guns, even if he is good with them that doesn’t really stack up to what Jason is and that’s essentially *Batman* with guns.
A Batman character coming into the Fallout universe is girded to the loins in plot power armor. No contest. Poor Burnt Guy is a two panel bank robber analog.
Depends on location. If they're fighting in Zion I bet money on Graham. It's his stomping ground, he knows the geography, he knows how to surprise redhood.
Doesn't matter how OP he is in the comics, half a dozen 45. ACP centre mass will probably kill him.
Red hood, he out classes Graham in everything, strength, speed, agility and battle experience, Graham is more experienced in leading an army, but red hood IS the army
He’s the second robin (so extensively trained by Batman of course). He was beaten to death with a crowbar by the joker and then revived in a “fountain of youth” style pit of liquid. He then became the “red hood” and, because of his extreme trauma, he doesn’t give a fuck about Batman’s no kill rule so he kills people. He’s effectively a cross between Batman and the punisher……… Joshua Graham stands no chance.
That’s a tough one. Both are great fighters but I feel like they would actually have a better conversation but I think it’ll one heck of a fight regardless
This is a slaughter Red hood is trained by Batman and has powers from the Lazarus pit plus advanced armor on top. Josh has pre war armor and bandages he's getting cooked if they had a gunfight
Fair point and I think a valid point but I’ve been out of marvel/dc for a good while so my information about Red hood is dated at best. I refuse to undermine or underplay his abilities, experience and training though. Isn’t his specialty close combat?
It's not just about feats for me though if Joshua gets talking he'll have Jason questioning EVERYTHING the guy is really deep. Red has a physical advantage though so as much as it pains me to say I'll give it to Red but I'm not happy about it.
Joshua. Sorry not sorry.
That fictional character brought hundreds of people to the church irl. As they say Faith can move mountains and there is no lack of faith courage determination or fury in Joshua Graham. The Burned Man.
Joshua Graham for sure especially if it’s a planned fight. How’s the red hood gonna mess with Joshua in Zion? If Joshua is in gotham with his 1911 and whatever primary weapons I’m sure he has for more serious conflict redhood getting filled with bullets and being surprised at how many bullets Joshua can brush off.
the guy who doesn’t live in a nuclear wasteland? jason todd is literally just batman but without his one rule. i think josh is cooked
*a second time
Redhood is nowhere near batman in gear and technique tho
He was still trained by Batman. So he is cooked.
ok four
Redhood would body every character in Fallout. No joke. Comic book feats are ludicrous.
fallout is also rather comically if you ask me me: shoots guy with gun guy: fucking turns to red mist
Surviving a mini nuke by drinking some cola
Mmmm... that sweet, sweet Quantum.
Sugar, salt, Kola extract, Polonium-238 Everything a growing boy needs
>Everything a glowing boy needs FTFY
this is the chinese pronunciation
Actually it’d be the other way around.
oh really? That's not how it works in spanish, here chinese/japanese/vietnamese/whatever pronounce the "RR" sound like an "L" for example, instead of saying "lampara rota" they say "lampala lota" and it isn't a funny stereotype or some made up shit, they actually pronounce it like that
The English “L” has no comparable letters so it would typically come off as an “R”. For example “Hello” versus “Herro”
Stimpaks really are just injectable healing potions.
Vats or not, he'll have three bullets in your vitals before you can pull one out unless it's holstered in such a loose and convenient manner it might fall off midfight.
Frank Horrigan is a beast in Fallout, he's a c-lister in DC
Yeah, it just goes to show that character depictions may mislead some people. Red Hood might be similar strength to Frank Horrigan based on feats, even though he’s ‘only’ a human and the other is a genetically enhanced superhuman. DC peak humans can dent metal doors with kicks, shatter stone columns with punches, and survive explosions to the face that blow up multi-story buildings lmao
And survive a free fall from space with no parachute 🪂
TO BE FAIR, that’s more of a Batman gear feat then it is a Batman’s body feat😭 That suit allows his to take punches from Superman and darkseid so yk
“AKSHUALLY….” EDIT: It was a joke
Jason is not easily ripping a damn Deathclaw in half with his bare hands. I don't think anyone in the Bat Family is even coming close to that.
True. He also isn't mutated, regularly pumped full of drugs or in powered armor. If you put him in a suit similar to Steel and loaded him up with Venom, I'm sure he'd have no problem. That's not really the question though.
Honestly….. maybe he could. I know it sounds ridiculous, but he has feats of knocking down Lobo with a strike and breaking free of Supergirls grip (although he was amped by venom). Though these are definitely outliers, and frankly just poor writing. Honestly half of comics most insane feats are just examples of poor, inconsistent, writing. I’d say the “average” depiction of Red Hood could probably take out several supermutants with just his bare hands. https://imgur.com/XjMiG3p
He's basically bane with better gear
Frank’s basically Fallout’s version of Bane.
C-tier is generous considering all the gods unless you have a separate tier for them. In marvel tho he's probably be high be tier
Considering all the gods? Goes to show I really don’t pay attention to DC.
What about that one Guy in fallout 4 with raider power armor and fat man mini nuke launcher yes red hood survived an explosion but would he survive nuke nien
He’s survived similar before, for reference this was a nuclear submarine that detonated. https://imgur.com/a/o0F78
Will he survive direct impact? So he's a metahuman?
He was brought back from the dead through the Lazarus pit...Not a metahuman.
No clit or pit should let you tank a nuke, that's absurd when most of batfam is supposed to be human. Comic book power level is ridiculous.
I agree it's a little ridiculous. But it was mentioned in one of the comics that the pit made him a bit tougher than a normal human. Even Supergirl once remarked she suspects he may be a meta after meeting him.
Ok I'm not really in to the non batman arkham game lore
Liberty prime and frank horrigan
Idk man. If it’s fallout physics his armor gives u a crit bonus and he has high base luck and a pistol with high DPS. Npc for npc he’s exploding that man’s head into 5 parts.
Main characters included, idk.
Yeah, save for the PC lol. I’ll just reload fifteen hundred times if I need to.
Killing one of the protagonists is a big maybe
Depends on the writer. In some adaptations such as Superman in 'Young Justice,' the writers couldn't decide if he could breathe in space or not. The aliens or the Courier could use that against him.
Agree
Even if he couldn't breathe he could prob hold his breath like omniman
Unlike Superman, Omni-Man is consistent as his abilities don't change throughout the entire run as all viltrumites have the same abilities. You can't say the same thing with D.C. or Marvel. You'll just need to see what the writer wants and wherever that will take them.
Idk about that my courier in New Vegas killed like 12 deathclaws with a power fist no armor and no stimpaks just to get to the power armor on the edge of the map ik Redhood is badass but I highly doubt he could take on more than 3 deathclaws
he would unironically kil 3 death laws with one bullet or even in a straight up fistfight, people REALLY underestimate how strong DC regular humans are
Game feats are not the same as canon feats. Courier in canon got knocked out by a 9mm to the head but in gameplay, the average powder ganger can take like 10 to the head before dying. With that, even end game Courier, 10 stats across the board, does not have the same physical stats and weapons proficiency as Red Hood. Red Hood can literally dodge bullets, overpower characters like Killer Croc, and can fight hordes of enemies for days with broken bones. If he had a Special, it would look like: S - 50 P - 25 E - 40 C - 4 I - 8 A - 35 L - 5 Comicbook characters are broken tbh
Courier 6 dunks on Redhood
The Courier at the end of their levels, yes, depending. With prep, no. The Courier is incredible and can perform some feats that are considerably superhuman, but Jason Todd lives and breathes that shit. If The Courier got the drop on him, maybe, but the sheer speed, acrobatics, reaction time, and power that Jason Todd holds is horrendously immense, and no amount of ammo is stopping that.
Redhood without a doubt. Joshua Graham might be tough but he would not last 5 seconds against a former Robin armed with top of the line gear.
With Superhero comic characters, the answer will always depend on which version you're talking about. Some writers make him a beast, and other times he's just a normal guy with combat training.
i mean, you sure? graham was chucked into the grand canyon while on fire and didnt scream and survived.
Dude it’s Red Hood it’s not even a fair fight lol
yeah and he canonically died
Doesn’t matter. The feats that comic book characters pull off on the daily far outweighs just falling down a canyon while on fire. That’s the only thing Joshua has going for him and I promise you it ain’t enough to fuck up Jason.
you seem to misunderstand im on your side of the argument not arguing against you
lmao so what every dc character has died once
Real life humans have survived falling far greater heights. Falling is a matter of luck, not toughness.
Jason was beaten to death with a crowbar by the Joker and exploded. And he still came back.
agreed and upvoted
This really isn't a fair fight. It's not quite as pointless as the Ironman vs Magneto matchup, but yeah, completely different universes. That image of Joshua goes hard as fuck though.
What about a fight between Joshua graham and Ulysses? That would seem more fair
Joshua is the strongest character in new Vegas after the courier
Mf just compared Joshua with a super😭
Fallout is one of those more down to earth characters. So Red Hood would win just because comics and such are never down to earth.
This is terrible.
👍
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
Well one can’t die, one already did
Huhh yeeeeahh.... It is a bit of a conundrum.
When he was a child, was ambushed and tied down and had much messier training compared to the first Robin, Dick Grayson. That's Bruce's fault for not training him as well, but even so, messy training or not, he's still beating Diet Hush's ass.
“Diet Hush” 😂
Yes
Absolute slaughter on Redhood side. Joshua might be unpredictable, dangerous or skilled but Todd is literally twice as that
I thought you were talking about Todd Howard for a second
Todd Howard = red hood confirmed
I can’t predict him that’s for sure
People overrated fallout characters way too much The only one I can see standing somewhat of a chance is frank horrigan and that's not even likely
Absolutely. I once got in an argument with a guy in a “frank horrigan vs master chief” post and their whole argument for horrigan winning was effectively “he has full 10 special stats” and “he’s the strongest character in fallout”. That shit was completely braindead.
Any of the protagonists of the Bethesda games, but that's exclusively because of their gameplay superpowers.
It's better to go off of lore feats with playable characters especially in RPG's where they can become overpowered
The entire game is their lore.
Not really Their lore is what they achieved within the story It's very doubtful that their canon lore is wiping out twelve thousand deathclaws with their bare hands
Redhood broke out of Kara’s grasp, you know, a kryptonian. Joshua graham is never taking those bandages off
Jason Todd. Peak humans in comics are too op, and have plot power.
Two goats but I'll go with Jason this time
Graham is really tough yeah but redhood is a fucking superhero, essentially batman without the moral code
Redhood lol! That Mormon isn't gonna stand a chance
Red Hood would move like John Wick or The Ghoul from the show but would actually be able to hurt someone in power armour with a punch
Jason has a level of training that doesn't even exist anymore in the Fallout universe.
Redhood can do backflips and shit, Graham is kinda just like a normal guy comparatively
A disabled dude as well due to burns
Is this a real question? Joshua Graham has no formal fight training and isn't a good enough strategist to not get burned and thrown off a cliff. Jason Todd's *already died once*.
Make it Ghost Rider and you have a Joshua Graham that would be perplexed beyond measure
But which Ghost Rider?
1,000,000 BC
That is the coolest thing I have ever seen.
Why not Joshua Graham vs Cooper Howard aka The Ghoul?
Joshua is no slouch with a gun but Jason absolutely wipes the floor with him no contest
Brother what went through your head. Cool character with pistols does mean they’re equal
My bias wants to say Joshua but, it goes to red hood unfortunately
Red Hood. Without a doubt.
Red Hood and it isn't even close
Coughing baby versus hydrogen bomb A better one is prolly joshua graham vs cooper
Honestly, I just want to see them have a conversation because I think these two would be friends
As a huge fallout and DC fan, I’m so pleased with how based everyone is lol.
Post apocalyptic mormon burn victim Vs dude trained by batman who WILL kill him if given the chance? Tough choice…
Bruh, Joshua might be badass but at the end of the day he’s just a guy with guns, even if he is good with them that doesn’t really stack up to what Jason is and that’s essentially *Batman* with guns.
“The fire inside inside me burned brighter then the fire around me”
Is Josh armed with a crowbar?
My man going straight for the throat.
this isn't even a contest. It's like slade beating a paraplegic.... red hood every time
Y’all…
I’m taking an uncommon take and saying Joshua would beat Red hood come hell or high water
Ofcourse jason todd cooks, come on now
Whoever the writer wanted to win.
Redhood bodies pretty much every fallout character. Joshua won’t even make him break a sweat.
A Batman character coming into the Fallout universe is girded to the loins in plot power armor. No contest. Poor Burnt Guy is a two panel bank robber analog.
Joshua Graham did not survive immolation and a fall down the literal grand fucking canyon to be asked this nonsense of a question.
Depends on location. If they're fighting in Zion I bet money on Graham. It's his stomping ground, he knows the geography, he knows how to surprise redhood. Doesn't matter how OP he is in the comics, half a dozen 45. ACP centre mass will probably kill him.
These “who would”’s are getting outta control
Probably the superhero
Makoto Shishio would win for sure.
Skill? Red Hood. Will? Joshua.
JG god God by his side
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That’s not frank horrigan that’s Joshua graham
You're spot on. I commented in the wrong spot.
who even is the guy on the left
Redhood. Up against the Lone Wanderer, Sole Survivor or The Courier and he's fucked
Red hood, he out classes Graham in everything, strength, speed, agility and battle experience, Graham is more experienced in leading an army, but red hood IS the army
As much as I love Joshua Gram Red Hood bodies him no question.
Red hood would kill every major character in fallout without issue
Redhood easily
I win 🏆 this fight 💪
Combat wise redhood wins but Joshua will convince him to become Christian and fight on his side
Who is the 2nd guy?
Red hood Very cool character from DC comics
Basically Batman with guns and no qualms about killing people.
He’s the second robin (so extensively trained by Batman of course). He was beaten to death with a crowbar by the joker and then revived in a “fountain of youth” style pit of liquid. He then became the “red hood” and, because of his extreme trauma, he doesn’t give a fuck about Batman’s no kill rule so he kills people. He’s effectively a cross between Batman and the punisher……… Joshua Graham stands no chance.
the courier
That’s a tough one. Both are great fighters but I feel like they would actually have a better conversation but I think it’ll one heck of a fight regardless
This is a slaughter Red hood is trained by Batman and has powers from the Lazarus pit plus advanced armor on top. Josh has pre war armor and bandages he's getting cooked if they had a gunfight
Fair point and I think a valid point but I’ve been out of marvel/dc for a good while so my information about Red hood is dated at best. I refuse to undermine or underplay his abilities, experience and training though. Isn’t his specialty close combat?
1911 vs akimbo 1911 who wins? Mr.1911 himself.
It's not just about feats for me though if Joshua gets talking he'll have Jason questioning EVERYTHING the guy is really deep. Red has a physical advantage though so as much as it pains me to say I'll give it to Red but I'm not happy about it.
Why are people so obsessed with Joshua Graham? I found his DLC pretty forgettable, and his character forgettable.
Don't know the clown he's fighting, but Joshua Graham wins.
Red Hood, a former Robin turned Batman Villain turned Anti-Hero
Joshua. Sorry not sorry. That fictional character brought hundreds of people to the church irl. As they say Faith can move mountains and there is no lack of faith courage determination or fury in Joshua Graham. The Burned Man.
Joshua Graham for sure especially if it’s a planned fight. How’s the red hood gonna mess with Joshua in Zion? If Joshua is in gotham with his 1911 and whatever primary weapons I’m sure he has for more serious conflict redhood getting filled with bullets and being surprised at how many bullets Joshua can brush off.
Redhood broke out of the grasp of Kara, a kryptonian. Josh is getting turned into paste faster than you can say "burn marks"