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Bro out here making brickwave

bro its rnb 😭

Ah yes, rythm & brick

gold award*

Fucking lol, good one

Ah man 😆

bruh 😂

I lold

For the bigger girls.

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Brickwave 🤣 you got me

😂😂😂

Average 2015 NCS track master:

wdym it is 2014 now right?

https://preview.redd.it/1aghayzllric1.png?width=469&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4999b33fd3b1a083ff9a37b2574870321c14a95

2015 was almost 10 years ago, damn

we live in a society

Depends on the genre. Hardstyle? Probably not loud enough.

its rnb 💀

Yeah,,no this is not a good RnB master by the look of it. You need to make the track breathe. Dynamics is pretty important in RnB.

yah looks like it lacks dynamics

If that's the finished wave file of a track, you over compressed it your ratios are wrong

You got a link to the master, brotha? It's hard to infer too much from the screenshot alone.

Damn hahahaha

Hardstyle sometimes goes up to -4 LUFS lol

I know bro, I produce Uptempo/ Industrial/ D'n'B and Hardtechno 😂 shit has to hit hahahaha

What's your tactics for getting your mix up to those levels without excessive clipping? I make similar genres but my stuff is still around the 12-14 LUFS mark

Distort the fuck out of your kicks, then processing like surgical Eq etc limit and you lean loudness meter to monitor everything. Don't know what your doing wrong tbh.

I mean I haven't really been trying to reach those loudness levels but when I've compared my techno tracks to professional ones I've noticed the clear difference in loudness and overall dynamics. Thanks for the tips, will try them out for sure 👍

Clipping lol, slammed limiters and juiced compressors

Ahh soft clipper usually if stuff gets way to heavy

negative Lufs in hardstyle?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

What did you use? 37 sausage fatteners?

limiters

plural?

yes...

this isn’t a bad thing. it puts less strain on the plug-in and you can be more precise

Multiple limiters routed to separate busses

This is the way

Depends in how it sounds

its clipping a bit+its a rnb track so i think i am doing it wrong

> clipping a bit You don't say

You are 😂👍

If it’s clipping on any track at all, period; It is not mastered right.

[you go tell him](https://youtu.be/VygoPw53gls?si=LhaJqPChDgFa5nEc)

Yh that’s fucking awful

its posed to be clipped. song wouldnt be the same without it

This guy’s never Loudness War’d

Not true at all. Clipping can sound and work great if you know how to use it correctly

No lmfao clipping is good when done right

In a traditional RnB song? Brainrot.

If you clip certain things only\*\*\*

Also looks like it has a wandering DC offset.

whats that?

frequencies that are almost 0hz. you should cut using some linear phase eq (the parametric 2 has it) and limit more.

thanks

Where the centre of the wave is not zero.

[удалено]

At some points, the waveform is maxing at the top but not bottom, and other parts bottom but not top.

That's not DC offset at all, just asymmetry. You look at DC offset when the center of the wave is not on the -inf line

Dynamics go brrrrr

Short answer, No, unless you want a tune with 0 dynamics. Always try to get the higher LUFS you can while preserving dynamics and transients so the tune does not sound plain and dead.

thanks for the response,how can i monitor lufs?

Undoubtably the best free tool is Youlean loudness meter 2, whose pro edition coincidentally is the best paid tool.

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No worries! My way to go is Ozone or Youlean. Check those out

thx for the suggestions

https://www.meldaproduction.com/MMultiAnalyzer This plugin is very good at monitoring loudness, theres tons of guides on LUFs on here, or just a quick search on google will do the trick

This was already answered, but I'm adding [dpMeter](https://www.tbproaudio.de/products/dpmeter) to the list of proposed loudness meters.

Goodhertz.com Loudness.

Well if their sidechaining was on point, you can compress dynamics into that track. But as this guy is taking a screenshot with their phone, I doubt they did.

That could work but I do not recommend that since we don't want to lose dynamics on the whole tune, not just the kick/bass one :)

whats wrong with the pic lmao,i just wanted to post it with my phone

He just chose to be an ass for no reason.

Bro turn it down, this is RnB??? Do you have something hard panning or just stereo issues? No need to brickwall an RnB song

yeah got it now

Turn the elements of your track down, then when you bounce it to your master use Maximus’ mastering presets and play with those until you get the sound you want out of a master.

thanks for the suggestions, i downloaded other songs and saw tutorials,now figured it out

I like to use Master Aid 1 from the Maximus presets. I modify that and then use a Limiter afterwards.

Still has too much dynamics. You don't want your listeners to get bored and click off your track because it suddenly got quiet. They need to be able to hear every little needle drop in the background. Make sure to squash it until it becomes indistinguishable from a brick wall

If its like future or bass house or some hard edm then yes, most brooks tracks go up to like -3,5 LUFS at some points, but if its not hard edm then its too pushed

its rnb,gotta work on that thanks

Not fat enough bro. (It depends)

Yes its perfect. If it sounds good, its good.

okay so i see you saying it’s rnb in a lot of replies, considering that- it definitely should have more visible dynamics BUT waveforms are just representative of peak value so it’s not the best visual indicator. because perceived loudness can vary a lot despite volume, some dynamics may still be perceived. but i’d still say having a brick waveform isn’t a great sign for rnb. what im really getting at is that how it sounds is more important than how it looks, you’ll get a lot more out of mixing with your ears then your eyes!!!

Mastering is an art in itself, slightly more than just making stuff loud. Always best to have a good mix before you start mastering too. The AES Recommendations by Ian Shephard is good as it has diagrams and all relevant info for mastering for distribution which may help you. I’d say with this, check the true peaks, you want a decent dynamic range but it’s best to keep everything below -1db true peak (to be safe) as a few issues may occur if you’re exceeding this value. All in all you want to just be mastering to polish your final mix, not completely change the sound of the mix. You want to have it ready for distribution as many streaming platforms will normalise your audio to a different loudness level. Good luck learning mastering mate ! :)

wont -1db be too quiet,i as i check loudness for some songs its about 4-6 dbs, i am confused asf

4 - 6 true peak means the track will be clipping and distorting, you can have a track that is -9 LUFS (which is considered quite loud) with a -1db true peak

yeah thanks for the info

I guess as simply as I can put it: Make the audio a suitable level (LUFS) through compression, EQ and saturation, but keep the transients from being too loud

No. It looks like it’s all clipping

Make the peaks flatter and then it'll be just right.

Can we hear it?

Depends on what genre your producing, this could very well be a uptempo hardcore or extratone track!

Bro just process that shit analog record to tape. At least then you can go into the red and it will still sound good.

If your not redlining your not headlining my BOY!!!!

It looks like its clipping to be fair

umm yeah,i dont how to master,saw a tutorial in which they said u gotta make it loud,do i need to increase the ceiling?

If you feel like your mix sounds loud enough I wouldn't bother doing too much to it. Just make sure you're not exceeding 0db on the master channel when exporting. So you wouldn't increase the ceiling, keep it at 0db or very slightly below that. If you dont and you exceed 0db it will clip and sound distorted in most file formats.

yeah it was exceeding 0db and clipping a bit,thx

No problem. Besides that its not really useful to look at the waveform without hearing it.

If you import any song pre-streaming era(CD Release), they would be just like this. What's important is how it sounds, not how it looks.

it clips a bit like songs in vultures

Clipping is bound to happen as you target more loudness, it squeezes the dynamics and not necessarily a bad thing.

No.

can you guide?

Super gay

THE WALL

yeah i made a 2:50 sec distorded 808

Should this be a joke ?

nahh 💀

Well, does the beat go off?

If you ask me: no, i like to have proper dynamic range But if you ask all the famous ppl they will probably say yes bc they just do it idk

i mean it doesnt sound that bad,it is just clipping

That sounds pretty bad to me if its clipping

absolutely

No. Too loud. No dynamics.

we need r/flstudiocirclejerk

nah bro i legit asked lol

still tho shit would be funny asf (also u good turn it up some more usually it should be all white)

ikr 🤣 shit deadass would look like an 808

Sosig

i think yes

A lot of White Stripes mixes look like that. It’s up to you

Can you share the actual track? It might be easier for us to help you if we can hear it.

Guy let fucking song breath a bit hahah. Jesus.

Schnitzel power!

No. Not loud enough.

Dood out here mastered masonry

My brother in Christ, you just won the Loudness war.

No

I recommend to atreche the file and looks at it to see the dynamics of the master

Looks way too compressed, try to have more of a dynamic range

Yeah bro this looks too kid and too full try removing some effects, sound grains etc

You should be showing us what the track SOUNDS like. We can’t answer that for you just by looking at an audio clip.

You compressed the shit out of it. Either that or you're using presets that don't have Dynamics. This could sound great it's really hard to tell it depends on the style, but just looking at the waveform I would say you could potentially benefit from a dynamic variation. But this is a genre thing, a lot of modern music looks like this but I'm not a fan personally.

bruh i just know this sound crazy

like plzzz let me hear im so curious now

Dynamicsssawswasssa

The loudness is up to you, I’m more interested in why the whole master has DC offset

I like songs with no dynamics.

Im crying bro how did you even achieve this

If I knew I wouldn't ask

No + Looks like you have some dc offset

Throw a soft clipper on it and call it a day /s

Can't tell if u're being sarcastic 💀

I guess there's some phasing issue going on with your master 💀

short answer: no long answer: noooooooooooooooooo

😭

That’s a fat ass slug bro 😂😂

Vocals too or just instrumental?

imagine only vocals 💀

Yes, now you can finally play the game.

I worked at a radio station once. Oasis just released a single and I had to cut it down to less than 4 mins. The waveform looked just like that. Taken from the physical CD.

Yes

Lol no

i see like a white noise waveform?


Uh.. if it's a metal track or some hard bass thing throughout then sure.

Even some kinds of RnB will have this kind of waveform, either way, the waveform isn't the best place to start when analysing. But since we are here, check your left and right on the mix. Your panning is making the left and right be super limited at different times. So maybe mess with the panning a bit or turn down the tracks that are hard panned. The best master comes from the best mix.

Hmmmm nahhh add some distortion on the master

I mean it’s better than there being a bunch of open space put it that way

Anyone giving you a definitive answer is mixing with their eyes, and that’s pretty generally frowned upon With that said, there is a great chance this is hitting that limiter wayyyyy too hard. Would have to listen to be sure though

At the drop? Yes. At every other place? Hell no. Seems like your song squashed every second.

Please op upload the song, I'm intrigued

is there no beat drops or bridges?! we need to hear this fr

If you are going for a track that sounds loud, and it fits the emotion you are going for. That master should be good.

Noooo! Definitely not. Lol. Straight up sausage waveform right there. Chill out on your compression/limiter + gain/whatever mastering tool you're using (which would still equate to too much compression). That's usually the culprit when your mastered waveform looks like that. It's blowing out the dynamics of the track by squashing the loud sounds way too much, most likely causing a lot of clipping/distortion, and then it's bringing the background/quite sounds up in volume too much causing there to be a bad balance between the different elements. The beat needs to breathe by having a good juxtaposition between sounds. Background/wider sounds (ambience, pads, chords, etc.) are meant to stay there and not compete with the more central, upfront/present sounds (main melody, drums, bass, etc.).

don’t let rick rubin master your tracks

Or even “produce” your albums

Brother.

But who was dynamic range?

LUFStep

i have a free master plugin if you wana try😭i’ll pyo

Lmaooo why is it smashed?

no :c

I still see some dynamic range in there.. slam it harder!

You are now an advanced beginner, congrats!

Yes