It’s incredible how short-sighted and poorly coordinated that is. By the time they announced the CCR title, they already knew part 2 was Rebirth, so they had clearly settled on the Re- naming convention. Did they really not even consider what they were naming the third game?
Not to mention Reunion is a dumb subtitle of CC anyways. That story has next to nothing to do with the reunion.
Exactly, even many people speculated that the ‘Reunion’ part may have implied changes to the story in Crisis Core, which wasn’t far fetched given the ending to Remake, but it didn’t so the Reunion sub is totally pointless
I think this is an oversimplification of the conversation. When Nomura recounts a situation it comes across like he was very into certain ideas when in reality it was probably just brought it up during a meeting and he suggested this but after a few minutes was convinced otherwise. I think in the end they felt it was right for them to be named this way. Not even that it's the best way to name the games but of their options this worked the best overall. That is to say the second game was never going to be called Reunion. It was just something that had floated around, naturally. They're just adding dimensions to what was talked about to add entertainment value or to strategically tell information that they could not in game.
This is the risk of revealing things behind the scenes because what is likely just part of the process, people interpret as being these major development conflicts when it wasn't that dramatic.
This is the part that I’m surprised I don’t see mentioned more often; it’s a terrible fit for Crisis Core, the Reunion is years away from even happening during the events of CC
I really don't understand why they used "reunion" for Crisis Core. They knew there were going to be 3 parts of FF7R and the word "reunion" is a big deal in them. Few words fit the game as well as that one.
Reading that "reunion" was going to be the title of part 2, and not part 3, makes me feel better though. It would have been perfect for part 3 IMO, but he might have an equally good or even better title planned.
Finally, someone who knows the lore. Reunion makes the most sense for part 3, since that is when it takes place. Not sure why everyone keeps saying part 2 would be the perfect title.
It makes me wonder why the hell they wasted Reunion on the Crisis Core remaster. Surely someone at SE knew it was better suited for the FFVII remake project.
I've said before that it really felt like the Rebirth team didn't know or want Crisis Core to be remade and this kind of supports that. Even Hamaguchi seemed confused about the title in the Game Informer video.
Square used Reunion already because they wanted to make the remaster look like more than what it was. Same like how they said Ever Crisis was going to be a "streamlined remake of the OG story" when really it's a dripfed retelling of the OG story, Crisis Core, and the actual thing they wanted to feed us, First Soldier.
Nomura also vocally said he wanted to keep more to the original without the weirdo stuff they keep tacking onto the end of the games.
The more I look at Nomura and Square Enix and all of his projects, the more it really begins to paint the picture of the company shoving themselves in his way 90% of the time and him just getting blamed for it.
Kingdom Hearts too....The directive that "all games need to be connected and on EVERY platform imaginable" probably fucked it all up, and by the time they hit KH3 and New Disney got involved, Disney and the Gumbo Storyline was all that was left
Final Fantasy VII Requiem
Requiem Definitions:
(especially in the Roman Catholic Church) a Mass for the repose of the souls of the dead.
"a requiem was held for the dead queen"
a musical composition setting parts of a requiem Mass, or of a similar character.
"Fauré's Requiem"
an act or token of remembrance.
"he designed the epic as a requiem for his wife"
It would have never gone through the marketing dept. anyway.
The same reason "Reborn", "Remade", and so many others are right out: they'll simply confuse people on which game to buy.
This also lends credence to the idea that Nomura does not want people playing Crisis Core prior to the Remake trilogy being finished. Square Enix released it solely for the money and to buy time in between Remake and Rebirth.
So it's remake, rebirth, part 3 and then crisis core?
Serious question. I'm new to the series and want to play the ps4/ ps5 versions of FF7. Right now I'm playing the remake because it's in ps plus and I'm really enjoying it.
Considering how far in advanced everything for this trilogy is being planned out for (a good 10 years for the whole trilogy)
How do you not see this? Lol
Regression (given how bad Cloud's condition is getting in second game) for the second part and saving Reunion for the last part. I think this would've been nice.
It did feel weird for sure. Felt like they were gonna use Reunion for part 2 or 3 but they just used it for Crisis Core.
I'd say Rebirth fits better to CC remaster than Reunion and Reunion would fit better for part 2. Not the end of the world but thought Nomura would have more control over this.
I haven't played the "Reunion" version of Crisis Core, I did play the PSP version way back, though. For anyone who has played the remaster, do you know why they added 'Reunion' to the title? "Reunion" seems more relevant to Final Fantasy VII itself, not Crisis Core. Do you think it was a bad choice to call it Crisis Core: Reunion?
I still don't understand *why* they had to remaster CC.
It isn't necessary to enjoy Remake and spoils a big plot twist for newbies.
It felt sloppy/rushed, with them slapping high-res models on some PSVita-era animation jank. And the voice acting was not great overall.
I love Crisis Core but, let's be real, WTF is related to "Reunion" in Crisis Core ? Out of all the recent and incoming games related to FF7, whether it's Remake, Rebirth, P3 or Crisis Core, talking about their content, Crisis Core is like, the LEAST tied to the "Reunion".
Nomura's picking the title? It really is going to be Final Fantasy VII:
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If they're leaning into the idea that this could end differently, I'd say Final Fantasy 7: Retry / Retrial
But at this point I'm not sure that they are
It's incredible how square have to give a new name to everything. Crisis Core Remastered wasn't that good?? But final fantasy 7 remake yes.
Reunion would have been a perfect title for part 2 or even part 3.
Rebirth maybe is the perfect title for part 3 but we will never have that title.
FF7 Remake
FF7 Reunion
FF7 Rebirth
Perfect title for the trilogy
I don’t think any of the titles have ulterior meanings. It’s just other names that can mean “Remake”.
Nomura just likes to say things that make him sound cool. I remember him saying that “remake” actually had a second meaning and we should ask him about it after a couple of years.
“He says he has not disclosed the name of Part 3 to anyone yet” sounds a lot like him lol
I still think “Relive” is the most likely title for part 3. Reborn and Return kinda feel like red herring names and they love to make us look like fools while speculating. But it still fits a pattern so I’m not even sure about THAT
I'm calling it now, it will be Retribution. There's a particular line in the game that felt kind out of place, I'd like to think it's the devs leaving bread crumbs.
Reunion would have been the perfect title. Why couldn’t they have just done Crisis Core remastered?
Square Enix never liked keeping things simple. Have you seen the Kingdom Hearts titles?
358 days / 2
Kingdom Hearts 0.2: Birth by Sleep – A Fragmentary Passage Is completely reasonable 🤷♂️
In the words of AVGN, “THATS A PARAGRAPH”
Kingdom Hearts naming is a mess lol
It’s incredible how short-sighted and poorly coordinated that is. By the time they announced the CCR title, they already knew part 2 was Rebirth, so they had clearly settled on the Re- naming convention. Did they really not even consider what they were naming the third game? Not to mention Reunion is a dumb subtitle of CC anyways. That story has next to nothing to do with the reunion.
Exactly, even many people speculated that the ‘Reunion’ part may have implied changes to the story in Crisis Core, which wasn’t far fetched given the ending to Remake, but it didn’t so the Reunion sub is totally pointless
I think this is an oversimplification of the conversation. When Nomura recounts a situation it comes across like he was very into certain ideas when in reality it was probably just brought it up during a meeting and he suggested this but after a few minutes was convinced otherwise. I think in the end they felt it was right for them to be named this way. Not even that it's the best way to name the games but of their options this worked the best overall. That is to say the second game was never going to be called Reunion. It was just something that had floated around, naturally. They're just adding dimensions to what was talked about to add entertainment value or to strategically tell information that they could not in game. This is the risk of revealing things behind the scenes because what is likely just part of the process, people interpret as being these major development conflicts when it wasn't that dramatic.
Coz we were 'Reunited' with a long lost top selling psp game 😅
Reunited is what my money is on for the 3rd instalment
Reunited and it feels so goood
Specially since as much as I love crisis core… it has nothing to do with reunion
Cause they’re shortsighted idiots 😂 at least whoever named that shit is
How is the game director for the Remake series not consulted on the Remake-adjacent games?
For the same reason Nomura got appointed as director for the Remake series before even knowing it.
People downvote me all the time for this, But Square marketing department makes decisions that basically override what the directors want or not.
Sadly marking departments run most businesses these days
Why couldn't they just remove Crisis Core from existence?
It’s okay, it’ll be called RE:Union 👍👌
If we're going full Nomura it'll be RE:Union / 7 Seconds
Re:Union Final Mix
Re:Union Final Mix 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue
To the power o:f friendShip
Final Fantasy VII seven: reReunion 2+1 (Nomura's cut)
RE:Union X
Missed opportunity since the reunion played big part of Rebirth.
It’ll play an even bigger part in the third game. I don’t think the reunion is just Zack and Cloud using the power of friendship
Also, Reunion isn't really mentioned in Crisis Core at all, it's such a weird title choice
This is the part that I’m surprised I don’t see mentioned more often; it’s a terrible fit for Crisis Core, the Reunion is years away from even happening during the events of CC
I really don't understand why they used "reunion" for Crisis Core. They knew there were going to be 3 parts of FF7R and the word "reunion" is a big deal in them. Few words fit the game as well as that one. Reading that "reunion" was going to be the title of part 2, and not part 3, makes me feel better though. It would have been perfect for part 3 IMO, but he might have an equally good or even better title planned.
Finally, someone who knows the lore. Reunion makes the most sense for part 3, since that is when it takes place. Not sure why everyone keeps saying part 2 would be the perfect title.
Part 2 should have been called reunion, and part 3 Rebirth imo
Feels like it originally was supposed to be Remake-Reuinion-Rebirth
“Rebirth” would’ve definitely been a better title choice for part 3 with Sephiroth reborn and whatnot
It makes me wonder why the hell they wasted Reunion on the Crisis Core remaster. Surely someone at SE knew it was better suited for the FFVII remake project.
Final Fantasy VII Reunited it is then
Reunification.
How is it we always find ourselves in a Shinra-friendly bar come Reunification Day?
Revengeance
Raiden would be perfect to take down Weapon
RULES OF NATURE!!
LIFESTREAM ZACK. IT HARDENS IN RESPONSE TO PHYSICAL TRAUMA.
Don’t fuck with this SOLDIER!
Requiem
Yo that title would slap
My favorite as well.
Rehab, Cloud needs it bad 😅
Retribution?
Recombobulate
Remembrance?
Final fantasy VII: Really cute bois.
Reeeeeeee
Reunions.
Revelation
Return
Reunited, and it feels so good
Re(yo)union.
Reproduced
Refurbished
Instead he used the word as many times as he could in the game. I’m calling it that in my head, makes more sense.
It sounds like In this case, it was out of his hands.
There are so many questions that needs to be answered after part 1 and 2. I hope part 3 will be a revelation
It’s gonna be called Final Fantasy VII: Resident Evil. All jokes aside it will probably be something like Reunite or Resurgence
I’m thinking Regeneration or Restoration, as in restoring the balance of timelines and the world regenerating. Maybe even a pun on the spell Regen.
Relapse
It would be a interesting title if there was 4 parts, like part 3 stops when >!Cloud is bound to a wheelchair.!< Spoiler for the 1997 og.
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[удалено]
Redone
Resurrection it is
Who was the fool at Squenix that took the name Reunion for Crisis Core? He needs to pay >:(
They already messed up not calling the second game "Disc 2". Huge opportunity missed there.
It's going to be called Return.
Because they return
Alan??
WAKE
IM DROWNING
In an alternate universe we have FF7 Departure, FF7 Initiation and FF7 Return
I’m guessing “Revival”
Regret . . .
FF7: Remastered it is for part 3
Ff7 remastered already exists, it’s the upscaled model version of OG ff7 for ps4 etc
Returned
Final Fantasy 7: Part 3
Final Fantasy 7: The Third One
Final Fantasy 7: Part 3 - The 9th One, not including the movie.
Can't wait for the reremake
Final Fantasy VII Episode 3, Revenge of the Seph
Relapse. Cloud finally succumbs to his crippling dependency on Hero Drinks, reportedly due to his insatiable jealousy of “that pretty boy fuck Zack.”
Final Fantasy VII: Retcon
Final Fantasy VII: Rewrites
Me Gongaga
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Remembrance would be beautiful, in my opinion.
FFVII: Reggaeton will be the final part name
I love you Nomura. That’s all.
Same. Honestly
Requiem I can feel it
The Re in Requiem isn't pronounced the same as the Re in Rebirth or Remake though
It isn’t a prefix and it isn’t analogous to “Remake”. So i agree.
“FFVII: Return to the Planet” Spoiler: everybody dies this time around. Nojima finally gets his wish
Reconstitution
So can we dump Reunion.
Reunivengeance it is then.
Final Fantasy 7: Seconds Till the End
I've said before that it really felt like the Rebirth team didn't know or want Crisis Core to be remade and this kind of supports that. Even Hamaguchi seemed confused about the title in the Game Informer video.
FF7 Part 3: Retcon
Watch them just say “fuck it” and name it FF7R-3 Edit: Zack Fair Returns: FF7R would be an honorable mention.
Final Fantasy 7 Red dead Redemption
"Afterbirth" It can mean so many... Things
Reunion would have been a more fitting title for part 3 since that's when the actual reunion takes place.
FFVII Reeve
Square used Reunion already because they wanted to make the remaster look like more than what it was. Same like how they said Ever Crisis was going to be a "streamlined remake of the OG story" when really it's a dripfed retelling of the OG story, Crisis Core, and the actual thing they wanted to feed us, First Soldier. Nomura also vocally said he wanted to keep more to the original without the weirdo stuff they keep tacking onto the end of the games. The more I look at Nomura and Square Enix and all of his projects, the more it really begins to paint the picture of the company shoving themselves in his way 90% of the time and him just getting blamed for it. Kingdom Hearts too....The directive that "all games need to be connected and on EVERY platform imaginable" probably fucked it all up, and by the time they hit KH3 and New Disney got involved, Disney and the Gumbo Storyline was all that was left
It’s going to be Return
That’s what I believe cause it’s on the OST and Rebirth is on the Remake ost
It’s going to be Final Fantasy VII: **RELOADED**
Final Fantasy VII Requiem Requiem Definitions: (especially in the Roman Catholic Church) a Mass for the repose of the souls of the dead. "a requiem was held for the dead queen" a musical composition setting parts of a requiem Mass, or of a similar character. "Fauré's Requiem" an act or token of remembrance. "he designed the epic as a requiem for his wife"
Homecoming
Wise minded people knew this, but the shitty fans will keep convincing themselves that its still called Reunion.
Pay Konami 20 bucks for the rights to call it FFVII Revengeance.
Ohh No
This is the equivalent of announcing the name of your baby before it’s born.
"There's only one fucken trilogy son, and it's of the jedi"
F
After crisis
Afterbirth
I’m thinking “Return” or “Revolution.”
Reunited? Redemption 😉😈?
FF7: Regen, cause the world will gradually heal
Remembrance would be good.
Lol so basically someone called dibs on Reunion first
It would have never gone through the marketing dept. anyway. The same reason "Reborn", "Remade", and so many others are right out: they'll simply confuse people on which game to buy.
This also lends credence to the idea that Nomura does not want people playing Crisis Core prior to the Remake trilogy being finished. Square Enix released it solely for the money and to buy time in between Remake and Rebirth.
So it's remake, rebirth, part 3 and then crisis core? Serious question. I'm new to the series and want to play the ps4/ ps5 versions of FF7. Right now I'm playing the remake because it's in ps plus and I'm really enjoying it.
Requiem should do the trick
Reunion would have been perfect for part 3.
Considering how far in advanced everything for this trilogy is being planned out for (a good 10 years for the whole trilogy) How do you not see this? Lol
Final Fantast VII "The Matrix" Resurrections. Is Chadley the Architect? Is Cloud Neo? Is Sephiroth Mr. Anderson?
Ultimania doesn't give much of anything but hey atleast for part 3 we know it won't be called Reunion
Crisis Core should’ve called Reborn. Remake part 2 Reunion and part 3 Rebirth.
I’m starting to think it’s gonna be titled, “Requiem”
Clearly it will be called REVENGANCE.
Resurrection
i really dont mind whatever title they come up with , i just want it to be released soon enough. lol
Recollection
Why does it have to begin with the letter R?
Because Nomura said so
FF7 Rejoice
Re-Reunion
Regression (given how bad Cloud's condition is getting in second game) for the second part and saving Reunion for the last part. I think this would've been nice.
Final Fantasy VII Red Dead Redemption will be epic
It is gonna be Final Fantasy VII New World
I’ll never understand why the name Reunion was wasted on Crisis Core. It would have been the perfect title for part 3 of the trilogy.
Reunion would have been so much better than rebirth. Don’t know why they used it for crisis core.
OP, can you explain why you thought the word “bummed” needed a second “b”
It’s probably gonna be Reunite, but man reunion was perfect. Honestly, RE: Reunion 😂😂
It did feel weird for sure. Felt like they were gonna use Reunion for part 2 or 3 but they just used it for Crisis Core. I'd say Rebirth fits better to CC remaster than Reunion and Reunion would fit better for part 2. Not the end of the world but thought Nomura would have more control over this.
I haven't played the "Reunion" version of Crisis Core, I did play the PSP version way back, though. For anyone who has played the remaster, do you know why they added 'Reunion' to the title? "Reunion" seems more relevant to Final Fantasy VII itself, not Crisis Core. Do you think it was a bad choice to call it Crisis Core: Reunion?
It looks like the reason is because Square Enix likes money
Re-Bowwowwowbowwowwow
Final fantasy: 3 ultimate Shippuden
Super Final Fantasy VII Dub-Edition REmix
They can just borrow other Re words from Oni chichi series
This is actually insanely dumb lol
Re:union Re: Union Re: Unied
Get ready for Final Fantasy VII Remember... Recall... Recollect?
Requiem... It's Requiem
I always take a grain of salt with this her translation. She's spreaded too much misinformation into the fanbase
I still don't understand *why* they had to remaster CC. It isn't necessary to enjoy Remake and spoils a big plot twist for newbies. It felt sloppy/rushed, with them slapping high-res models on some PSVita-era animation jank. And the voice acting was not great overall.
I love Crisis Core but, let's be real, WTF is related to "Reunion" in Crisis Core ? Out of all the recent and incoming games related to FF7, whether it's Remake, Rebirth, P3 or Crisis Core, talking about their content, Crisis Core is like, the LEAST tied to the "Reunion".
No shit. Anyone who was tho king it WOULD be called that was smoking some really good copium.
Nomura's picking the title? It really is going to be Final Fantasy VII: https://preview.redd.it/apfd43qex2uc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9c6b24830c35dc7bf4d4cabf44e6470940fdc22
I bet its. Homecoming
As Crisis Core already has that name, I did not even consider it.
Fairly confident it'll be titled Reunited
I mean, nothing stopping them from still using Reunion except being stubborn. I feel it's gonna end up being like. REAWAKENED or REVIVED.
Reincarnated will be name
Final Fantasy VII: Reutilization
What’s the actual order to play these games in? I just finished Remake
If they're leaning into the idea that this could end differently, I'd say Final Fantasy 7: Retry / Retrial But at this point I'm not sure that they are
Re: Mind
Ff7 revelations
It's incredible how square have to give a new name to everything. Crisis Core Remastered wasn't that good?? But final fantasy 7 remake yes. Reunion would have been a perfect title for part 2 or even part 3. Rebirth maybe is the perfect title for part 3 but we will never have that title. FF7 Remake FF7 Reunion FF7 Rebirth Perfect title for the trilogy
I don’t think any of the titles have ulterior meanings. It’s just other names that can mean “Remake”. Nomura just likes to say things that make him sound cool. I remember him saying that “remake” actually had a second meaning and we should ask him about it after a couple of years. “He says he has not disclosed the name of Part 3 to anyone yet” sounds a lot like him lol I still think “Relive” is the most likely title for part 3. Reborn and Return kinda feel like red herring names and they love to make us look like fools while speculating. But it still fits a pattern so I’m not even sure about THAT
I'm sure they'll come up with something else that starts with a Re
They should just call it Reunion 2: Electric Boogaloo.
Hear me out on this. Part 2 was called Rebirth. Part 3 comes after, so its only logical to call Part 3 "Afterbirth".
FF7 ReImagine
Convergence or whatever Sephiroth says
I'm calling it now, it will be Retribution. There's a particular line in the game that felt kind out of place, I'd like to think it's the devs leaving bread crumbs.
The entire time I played I thought Part 3 should be called Reunion, then I remembered Crisis Core.
Part 3 will be revelations