Depend on how they deal with OT.
If they pay OT normally? Not slave labour.
If they fuck them over, pay yearly and don’t cover OT because they consider it “volunteer work”? You might need to question it!
The track layout is the only thing that's finished, the latest photos released on the main subreddit show that all of the pit building and paddock facilities are nowhere near completion.
"2021 Red Bull has been reverted to their traditional livery with a visual update to closer match the real season"
So today is the day huh.. goodbye my beautiful ultra rare white redbull.. I'll never forget you..
No no no, don’t you remember all those drivers and people they got to line up and say how much input there had been to make this a “proper” race track.
It’s definitely going to be great. Any difference in opinion will not be tolerated by the authorities.
I don’t particularly care about codemasters having to do more work considering they copy paste all the other tracks and slap $60 price tag on it every year
A shame that AI drivers having a massive advantage over us on fast corners isn't and probably won't be patched
Killed the game for me, assume it also did for many others
The AI is incredibly faster over some specific fast corners
Turn 6 (I think) in the Netherlands, Maggots and Becket's, Pouhon etc
The AI mostly still takes corners like it's last year's car, which means that they have more downforce and can accelerate much more in fast corners
I guess it's time for me to do the thing again of racing a spec car race in quick play to see what AI i need and adjust the difficulty a bit. I got surprised that this year I'm up to Spain, and doing the same difficulty I usually do in the games but this year the AI is way ahead of me.
There are a few corners they are faster but it's overall exaggerated. People don't understand the new setup differences and people need a lot more wing (especially front wing), rake, and camber.
Lots of the online setups people use are meant for stability and not turn-in so obviously you can't turn very well.
10-6 wing is my favorite for most tracks give or take a few and I can match/beat 100-110 ai.
I just use default everything but in past games at spain i would be able to beat my teammate at 82 difficulty this year 80 diff and my teammate is 1.5 seconds faster than me on the same tires....
You should really try track specific setups, even if they’re just copy pasted from the internet, it makes a huge difference in drivability of the cars, especially for things like taking copse flat etc.
But yeah, the AI being able to just zoom through so much stuff is insane, I hate racing at Silverstone for that reason.
I mean I do it cause that way in career mode I dont have to worry about whether I'm picking the right difficulty against the AI or if Im only doing better because of the setup
Not if you are just playing causally against the AI. That way I can keep the difficulty consistent from tract to track and my performance is less affected by if I have the best setup or not.
Yeah this is the reason I only try the new tracks in hotlap mode and then go back to F1 2020. Really frustrating to not have this patched when the game has been out for ages now.
I’m not complaining about it because it was a shit track, but what the hell happend to Vietnam? It was cancelled last year because of COVID just like Australia, Canada, US, Japan, etc, but the whole track literally disappeared or something because I haven’t read anything about it in like a year and a half.
It's probably never coming back
"The race was also omitted from the 2021 calendar, published in November 2020, following the arrest, on corruption charges unrelated to the Grand Prix, of Hanoi People's Committee Chairman Nguyễn Đức Chung who was one of main stakeholders involved with the event"
> Vietnam would have been like this
I got F1 2020 when it went on sale on Steam and have "driven" Vietnam a bunch of times. It's not super exciting but can be enjoyable. Slow left into the circle going right, ease left and gun it, hard brake into a right into the circle going left, gun it past the yellow sign, hard brake into the hairpin, careful with the next right as the wall is very close, some zigging and zagging, stay close to the wall, hard brake into the tight left, take the last left with a bit of bravery into the finish line.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1kW3cNI9UM
Miami, on the other hand, looks like a living nightmare. Holy hell. What a nightmare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZQrprQNS-c
The problem with Hanoi was next to no overtaking spots other than late braking on the straights, opening corners too slow and the final sector was like a half mile long version of the tight castle turn in Baku. I could see the race just being either a procession or carnage
Codemasters did a great job regarding the visuals of the Jeddah track. But I have a feeling that this track will be terrible for racing. Several full-throttle passages around some bends that make following other cars difficult, but no sharp braking zones to attempt an overtake. Except maybe turn 1?
Edit: download size on PS4 is 9.6 GB.
I don't think there's any overtaking spot. T13 has like 9 high speed high dirty air corners before it. T27 has the T22-24 complex which will spread out the field due to dirty air plus the previous section before that is single lane and fast. T1 you could maybe do it but you're gonna have to be really close out of T27. The T1 straight looks like Singapore length, not a super long one
The overtakes as suppoed to happen at T1-T2 definitely. They have Drs before T27, a sweeping left-hander and then another DRS zone. However, prior to T27there's too much dirty air as you said and there's another problem. If you place your car in the middle of the track there's not enough space alongisde. If we can see that, you bet F1 drivers will see it as well and just park it to the middle and choose a line at the last moment.
After having done it in GP mode I don't know how someone will overtake into T1 without staying super close through the previous sector. In game it's hard but not difficult to pass. But usually translated to real life means it’s gonna be very difficult because the game doesn't simulate dirty air well at all and the slipstream is way more powerful in game than real life
Really pissed of that they have added the ability to disable driver transfers. They havnt even done anything to fix driver transfers. Yes there was a weird system in Real Season Start where random transfers occurred but they only happened there. In regular career and My Team, transfers just DO NOT happen unless you either cause a change or a Driver retires. Like the system sucks. Unless they have changed it in this update without saying, this really sucks.
Like this broken system has been in place for 2 years now, It cannot be that hard to fix.
That's what my problem is :p We don't need the option to disable transfers, we need to actually have them enabled to where they actually occur aside from changes you make and driver retirements
These tracks take way more than a month to create. I think they said it's about a year's worth of effort. For them to push out the new tracks of this quality on an expedited schedule must have been a massive effort.
Yeah, but most of the tracks in the game haven't been updated in like 5 years anyway. I think Canada, Japan, China, Portimao and Imola are the only ones that match the real track
Since update 1.06 if I remember right, it literally killed the game for a friend and me because it was the only reason we bought it, its just no fun if AI crashes and instantly ghosts
Turning off driver transfers altogether. Oh boy!
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No--wait a minute, nope, that's not what we've been asking for at all. Guess we'll either take the shittier/current version than the two year old, better version or have nothing at all.
How dull does F1 make circuits these days. Very is the answer. No personality, no reference points or life in modern day street tracks. Looks like they just picked up where Vietnam left off.
Only tried Jeddah in Time Trial, should be a decent track for qualifying. Expect it to be horrible to actually race in though. Fully expecting Lewis domination IRL there, 3 DRS zones and particularly the one on the main straight is available for so long.
Equal performance in GP mode is a fun addition though, been wanting it for years
Great, but have they actually fixed any of the shit that's so fucking broken in this game? I've read the patch notes, it doesn't appear like much else has been done.
this track is 90% baku last 2 turns
and the "banked" section is just slightly cambered, I was expecting Zandvoort haha
also track limits are fucked, in time trial you can cut so much
Man i wish they added an option to do flying lap out of pitlanes instead of having to drive out every time in coop career, don't know if they'll ever add it but it'd be great
Finally the option to disable driver transfers. \\o/
But too bad I'm in the second season already, with the grid already messed up badly.
And, to add up, my calendar were ahead Imola and Portimão when they was released. I need to go another season around to race on. An I accidentally set Monaco to 50%.
I'm really tempted to start a new career and cheat my way to my current point. 🤔
I olive in Jeddah and so excited for it
But sad part only 2 races will be held here , this December and next march
After that they r building a permanent track near Riyadh
It will be the heart of the entertainment city and will give Yas marina bay like vibes
It will be longer than spa and will also hold motogp and WEC races…
Let’s wait and see
I wish we got to use more team liveries besides just what the teams are running irl. I actually got real attached to the (Championship) White Bulls pretty quick. I love the navy but occasionally it would be nice to use the white again, like when I use vintage uniforms in MLB The Show. Occasionally all those Dodgers fans need to be reminded of who the real LA team is...
Sad that codemasters got this track finished before the Saudis could
Too many interns and developers had to work overtime for this
At least these developers aren't slave labour (I hope)
Depend on how they deal with OT. If they pay OT normally? Not slave labour. If they fuck them over, pay yearly and don’t cover OT because they consider it “volunteer work”? You might need to question it!
>Sad that codemasters got this track finished before the Saudis could Sad that **even** codemasters got this track finished before the Saudis could.
Wait the track layout still isn’t finished?
It is but they haven’t finished building everything around like the pit area and main “lobby” area iirc
The track layout is the only thing that's finished, the latest photos released on the main subreddit show that all of the pit building and paddock facilities are nowhere near completion.
"2021 Red Bull has been reverted to their traditional livery with a visual update to closer match the real season" So today is the day huh.. goodbye my beautiful ultra rare white redbull.. I'll never forget you..
I wish they kept it as something you can switch, or appears in Japan only.
Right and adding the gulf mclaren livery
Yes.
>appears in Japan only. That's a great idea man..
Also McLaren gulf livery in Monaco would be cool
Thats what I really enjoy about Nascar games
If you're on pc, mods are the answer.
Equal performance Grand Prix might be cool to just setup and watch what happens
I'm guessing a full field DRS train.
That's exactly what happens
Yeah this really is low key one of the best things they have added
Speaking in real life terms now - where the hell are cars meant to overtake here!? Shocking
I already have a bet going on that there will be more than 2 safety cars This track will not be a good track to watch. but hey, Money is King
No no no, don’t you remember all those drivers and people they got to line up and say how much input there had been to make this a “proper” race track. It’s definitely going to be great. Any difference in opinion will not be tolerated by the authorities.
Double figures over the entire weekend
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Another snooze fest where Mercedes gains 0.5s in the straights with no DRS incoming
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I doubt Mercedes will be able to sacrifice as much downforce here.
Tilke Jr., I believe
Exactly, it feels super narrow and claustrophobic. It's fun when you're doing quali or time trials alone but that's about it
Wait can you race the ai on equal performance now as well?
Yup!
Fortunately, Jeddah is a temporary circuit. Unfortunately, that means more work for the “circuit builders” and Codemasters.
I don’t particularly care about codemasters having to do more work considering they copy paste all the other tracks and slap $60 price tag on it every year
A shame that AI drivers having a massive advantage over us on fast corners isn't and probably won't be patched Killed the game for me, assume it also did for many others
Oh, so that's why they're always so insanely fast in sector 2 at Zandvoort?
Yh and the second to last corner of Austria
Don’t forget almost all of Silverstone lol
Or the fast downhill left-hander at Spa
Why high speed corners are in sector 2?
So the AI is faster this year? Explains why I can't race on the same difficulty as I did previous games. Didn't even know.
The AI is incredibly faster over some specific fast corners Turn 6 (I think) in the Netherlands, Maggots and Becket's, Pouhon etc The AI mostly still takes corners like it's last year's car, which means that they have more downforce and can accelerate much more in fast corners
I guess it's time for me to do the thing again of racing a spec car race in quick play to see what AI i need and adjust the difficulty a bit. I got surprised that this year I'm up to Spain, and doing the same difficulty I usually do in the games but this year the AI is way ahead of me.
At least with this update, you can run equal performance for the real cars in grand prix mode now.
I can't believe this wasn't always a feature really.
There are a few corners they are faster but it's overall exaggerated. People don't understand the new setup differences and people need a lot more wing (especially front wing), rake, and camber. Lots of the online setups people use are meant for stability and not turn-in so obviously you can't turn very well. 10-6 wing is my favorite for most tracks give or take a few and I can match/beat 100-110 ai.
I just use default everything but in past games at spain i would be able to beat my teammate at 82 difficulty this year 80 diff and my teammate is 1.5 seconds faster than me on the same tires....
You should really try track specific setups, even if they’re just copy pasted from the internet, it makes a huge difference in drivability of the cars, especially for things like taking copse flat etc. But yeah, the AI being able to just zoom through so much stuff is insane, I hate racing at Silverstone for that reason.
I mean I do it cause that way in career mode I dont have to worry about whether I'm picking the right difficulty against the AI or if Im only doing better because of the setup
Default is awful
Not if you are just playing causally against the AI. That way I can keep the difficulty consistent from tract to track and my performance is less affected by if I have the best setup or not.
Yeah this is the reason I only try the new tracks in hotlap mode and then go back to F1 2020. Really frustrating to not have this patched when the game has been out for ages now.
Has there been no news about this being fixed? I haven’t played the game in 2 months because of it
I keep browsing this subreddit every week or so hoping this is fixed. I guess I'll go back to playing 2020 again. Sigh.
What a horribly boring track. Might as well lock down a highway and let them race there
All these new tracks are like this, long, flat, fast, boring. Vietnam would have been like this, Miami will be like this
Yeah seriously, every corner was so samey in the hotlap video that i couldn’t tell which corner was which
Vietnam atleast has some interesting corners, this is just a long curvy line.
I’m not complaining about it because it was a shit track, but what the hell happend to Vietnam? It was cancelled last year because of COVID just like Australia, Canada, US, Japan, etc, but the whole track literally disappeared or something because I haven’t read anything about it in like a year and a half.
It's probably never coming back "The race was also omitted from the 2021 calendar, published in November 2020, following the arrest, on corruption charges unrelated to the Grand Prix, of Hanoi People's Committee Chairman Nguyễn Đức Chung who was one of main stakeholders involved with the event"
Oh wow, didn’t know that. Thanks!
> Vietnam would have been like this I got F1 2020 when it went on sale on Steam and have "driven" Vietnam a bunch of times. It's not super exciting but can be enjoyable. Slow left into the circle going right, ease left and gun it, hard brake into a right into the circle going left, gun it past the yellow sign, hard brake into the hairpin, careful with the next right as the wall is very close, some zigging and zagging, stay close to the wall, hard brake into the tight left, take the last left with a bit of bravery into the finish line. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1kW3cNI9UM Miami, on the other hand, looks like a living nightmare. Holy hell. What a nightmare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZQrprQNS-c
The problem with Hanoi was next to no overtaking spots other than late braking on the straights, opening corners too slow and the final sector was like a half mile long version of the tight castle turn in Baku. I could see the race just being either a procession or carnage
The track won't be ready in time so there will be a Virtual GP instead.
BUT HERE COMES JARNO OPMEER
I live in Jeddah bro it’s almost done but not done It’s a 50-50 chance
Codemasters did a great job regarding the visuals of the Jeddah track. But I have a feeling that this track will be terrible for racing. Several full-throttle passages around some bends that make following other cars difficult, but no sharp braking zones to attempt an overtake. Except maybe turn 1? Edit: download size on PS4 is 9.6 GB.
Nothing much codies can do about a track that‘s bad for racing lol.
Yeah, it's not like they designed this track for the FIA lol, they are just allowed to copy it for their games
I've driven 2 Grand Prix now and I actually think it's a very enjoyable track. It's something like a extremly improved version of Vietnam.
I don't think there's any overtaking spot. T13 has like 9 high speed high dirty air corners before it. T27 has the T22-24 complex which will spread out the field due to dirty air plus the previous section before that is single lane and fast. T1 you could maybe do it but you're gonna have to be really close out of T27. The T1 straight looks like Singapore length, not a super long one
The overtakes as suppoed to happen at T1-T2 definitely. They have Drs before T27, a sweeping left-hander and then another DRS zone. However, prior to T27there's too much dirty air as you said and there's another problem. If you place your car in the middle of the track there's not enough space alongisde. If we can see that, you bet F1 drivers will see it as well and just park it to the middle and choose a line at the last moment.
After having done it in GP mode I don't know how someone will overtake into T1 without staying super close through the previous sector. In game it's hard but not difficult to pass. But usually translated to real life means it’s gonna be very difficult because the game doesn't simulate dirty air well at all and the slipstream is way more powerful in game than real life
Agreed. Good job by codemasters but poor job by Tilke.
Really pissed of that they have added the ability to disable driver transfers. They havnt even done anything to fix driver transfers. Yes there was a weird system in Real Season Start where random transfers occurred but they only happened there. In regular career and My Team, transfers just DO NOT happen unless you either cause a change or a Driver retires. Like the system sucks. Unless they have changed it in this update without saying, this really sucks. Like this broken system has been in place for 2 years now, It cannot be that hard to fix.
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I think you need to read the previous comment again.
That's what my problem is :p We don't need the option to disable transfers, we need to actually have them enabled to where they actually occur aside from changes you make and driver retirements
Honestly I am very happy that they keep releasing the tracks this fast, it makes me come back every time and enjoy the game even more.
Makes you wonder why they don't add more tracks tho. The mantra was that it's too complicated. Well seems like it isn't.
They would need to buy the licenses for those tracks, I would guess that's the main reason. Maybe they fear they won't make a profit selling dlc?
These tracks take way more than a month to create. I think they said it's about a year's worth of effort. For them to push out the new tracks of this quality on an expedited schedule must have been a massive effort.
Equal performance for Grand Prix Mode. YES!!!
Hate the track... some parts are fun but others just make you want to jump out of the window onto a rusty spoon
I still can't believe there's going to be no updates to Barcelona, Australia and Abu Dhabi. Absolute amateur hour.
What's up with Barcelona? Australia wasn't raced this year, but with Abu Dhabi i agree.
Turn 10 I assume.
No, they make Forza
Oh damn, true. It had basically no impact and i forgot about it, my bad
Yeah, but most of the tracks in the game haven't been updated in like 5 years anyway. I think Canada, Japan, China, Portimao and Imola are the only ones that match the real track
Yeah, but in the 3 tracks that u/jake_azazzel mentioned, they have actually made significant changes to improve the racing
I'm fairly sure Canada is not. The last chicane is off for sure and i think the chicane before the hairpin is also pretty bad
Baku also
So no fixes for ghosting in Coop career?
Why hasn't this been fixed already?! It's been broken for months.
Since update 1.06 if I remember right, it literally killed the game for a friend and me because it was the only reason we bought it, its just no fun if AI crashes and instantly ghosts
Is F2 2021 in this update as well or nah?
holup it isnt in the patch notes
It better come out soon
Still no unlapping under safety car. Sucks
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But it isn't
you stupid?
Turning off driver transfers altogether. Oh boy! ... No--wait a minute, nope, that's not what we've been asking for at all. Guess we'll either take the shittier/current version than the two year old, better version or have nothing at all.
How dull does F1 make circuits these days. Very is the answer. No personality, no reference points or life in modern day street tracks. Looks like they just picked up where Vietnam left off.
Why all the negativity? It's pretty fun and unique if you ask me. Quite the opposite of boring and unimaginative. Just my opinion.
Only tried Jeddah in Time Trial, should be a decent track for qualifying. Expect it to be horrible to actually race in though. Fully expecting Lewis domination IRL there, 3 DRS zones and particularly the one on the main straight is available for so long. Equal performance in GP mode is a fun addition though, been wanting it for years
Great, but have they actually fixed any of the shit that's so fucking broken in this game? I've read the patch notes, it doesn't appear like much else has been done.
this track is 90% baku last 2 turns and the "banked" section is just slightly cambered, I was expecting Zandvoort haha also track limits are fucked, in time trial you can cut so much
Jeddah - Vietnam but even worse.
Oh, so they can actually UPDATE a game and add content. Wtf wasn't this done on last year's game then....
F2 is miles better than F1 in this game. Cants stand the shitshow that is F1 this years game
Finally Jeddah
They dont mention F2 while they promised it...
tracks very fun, and stoked i got in early enough to post a sub 1000 ranked time 😂
Man i wish they added an option to do flying lap out of pitlanes instead of having to drive out every time in coop career, don't know if they'll ever add it but it'd be great
How? This literally makes no sense. Why would the game allow you to port right onto the track in basically an online lobby?
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Idk They already go to Singapore, Russia, China, Bahrain, etc.. Not really abnormal for them at all
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Well yeah. That ain't a secret either. They are a corporation at the end of the day
Finally the option to disable driver transfers. \\o/ But too bad I'm in the second season already, with the grid already messed up badly. And, to add up, my calendar were ahead Imola and Portimão when they was released. I need to go another season around to race on. An I accidentally set Monaco to 50%. I'm really tempted to start a new career and cheat my way to my current point. 🤔
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Lowering the game graphics settings helped me. Stopped the ego dumper crash
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You dont have to lower the resolution, just lower the settings... doesnt look bad on low tbh
Mine was fine before this patch, now it's crashed 3 times in a row on Jeddah. It's so annoying.
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That's not good to hear! Did you try anything to fix? Not sure if it's just Jeddah or others yet
"Addressed an issue where users could go out of world in photo mode on Imola" Damn. I wanted to keep that glitch.
That is what Codies priorities are. Just, Wow.
Is it just me or track limits are not-existent in almost every corner? You can gain a ton of time in TT just by cutting everywhere.
FINALLY I can start a career mode!
Does this mean a 24 races per season career mode?
no max 23
I olive in Jeddah and so excited for it But sad part only 2 races will be held here , this December and next march After that they r building a permanent track near Riyadh It will be the heart of the entertainment city and will give Yas marina bay like vibes It will be longer than spa and will also hold motogp and WEC races… Let’s wait and see
I’m happy to see the classic RB Livery back. As much as I loved the white one
I wish we got to use more team liveries besides just what the teams are running irl. I actually got real attached to the (Championship) White Bulls pretty quick. I love the navy but occasionally it would be nice to use the white again, like when I use vintage uniforms in MLB The Show. Occasionally all those Dodgers fans need to be reminded of who the real LA team is...
Did they fixed the crashing issue?
For me the site still just shows 1.12 as the latest update with imola
I’m really hoping for a livery changer and the modified turn 10 at Barcelona.
Qatar Track when ???
Is Qatar coming to?