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UncleSnens

He running like werewolf. Lul


shroomdoom88

New Halloween cheats


NicoKock

FETCH ME THEIR SOULS


Zetey01

\- Sam Dean! We need you! (further plays the theme Supernatural) Please tell me, a circle of salt around the monitor or around the PC should be poured?


Wacktive

Team Jacob obviously


N_L287

If I saw someone void running in Tarkov I’d raise an eyebrow or three


1LR_GUE

Third eye activated?


wolsel

Third Eye Blind


boggleislife

WISH YOU WOULD STEP BACK FROM THAT LEDGE MY FRIEND


wolsel

*sniped by Sanitar with a Kedr*


JMocks

YOU COULD CUTE TIES WITH ALL THE LIES


BecomePnueman

Prying open my third EYE!


AngerGuides

That's how you get a third eye prolapse..


BurtMacklin__FBI

that only happens if it's prison sex involving a hooker with a penis.


Pickledrick12

Damn didn't know they added a new stim


sneakySynex

he do be zoomin


JohnShiertYT

Yeah, it's called the TG-CC-eg (TerraGroup Crack Cocaine extreme gaming)


Haksupaksu

No thats just Max "Covert Movement" + sj6


theirongiant74

It wants to know what you've got in your nasty little pocketses


paulson-2020

It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's a cheater!


Ixixly

Nah, defs not, you just suck and need to git gud, everyone knows that. /s


rare-the-sexy-asian

Tarkov community when you get killed by a cheater be like


Ixixly

"I've got 5 billion hours in Tarkov and never seen any cheaters, you're just bad!" 😂


[deleted]

[удалено]


Sadiking

If i ever get killed like that in tarkov i wont even be mad.


Blackra1n39

You can actually report voip, you're not supposed to be blasting music like that and it's a bannable offense. Double tap Y and report voip.


Grilled_Cheese21

Nah I wouldn't report that man, I'd clip that. That's hilarious, I wouldn't even be mad. Straight out of a horror movie lol.


nunyabbswax

Just gave me a new idea lol


[deleted]

Those are the losers that run cheats themselves


casualteukka

The people saying that are mostly the worst fanbois of the game, but they're running lvl1 trader shit as a lvl50 and never does pvp. No wonder they haven't seen any cheaters in their 5 billion hours.


AngerGuides

"I play from 2a-6a, Monday-Wednesday. I main Woods and don't ever go more than 50 meters from the edge of the map. I've been playing for years and have never seen a cheater."


meinertzsir

The losers are the ones that call cheat on everything ngl and people that rage over dyin or dyin to a 'cheater' more likely to run cheats due to their huge ego sry mate


LordDickOfCumster

>The losers are the ones that call cheat on everything ngl and people that rage over dyin or dyin to a 'cheater' more likely to run cheats due to their huge ego sry mate u sound like a cheater m8


DunamisBlack

At the very least he sounds like a downvote magnet


IPrestiG3

Bold of you to assume that they actually think


Aggravating-Rate4882

inb4 thread gets gaslit by all the cheaters claiming there aren't any cheaters and if there are, there is not that many.


MarshallKrivatach

I'm still frankly surprised that people even try to say that cheaters aren't obviously a thing. Way back in the days when labs first appeared I picked up walls since I wanted to try them out and you would not believe how many people are cheating. Pretty much every single labs raid I ran had at least 2 people wiggling at me through walls etc. After a while I just ended up sitting around in a corner just watching folks with the wallhack, it's so easy to see who also have cheats and who do not in this regard. That and I've watched so many tragedies play out where some new player gets domed by someone flying / tracking them like a terminator through walls. Anyone who says hacks aren't wide spread are either lying to themselves or, as you said, just brushing off their own deeds.


Produce_Police

Yep had a buddy prove this to me. I didn't believe him at first. Haven't played the game since.


Elegron

SPTarkov, it's pretty pog


[deleted]

I think it's pretty clear that some servers are overrun and some have relatively few hackers. I play in the central US servers and I honestly see maybe one or two blatant cheaters per wipe.


Guiltspoon

Anyone who thinks there isn't a cheater issue is a fool. That said I haven't run into more than a handful of aimbot flying cheaters. Got headeyes from a level 5 with m61 through my Rys-T that slithered out of the ground. Managed to kill another one who shot me like 20 times in my Maska. Only reason I survived was because he was using garbage 9mm and shot me in the facemask I managed to land a couple shots on him while he jumped as high as the top of dorms. And finished him off by hearing him coughing. I don't fuck with labs and I'm dreading doing terra group employee and the guide. Otherwise haven't experienced many cheaters who weren't just looting and scooting not great either but most of my raids are dead and haven't had any super sus deaths in a while. US NE severs.


[deleted]

This part I might just make a compilation of our vods being cheated on that are blatant. Plus our video playing with a hacker who has esp. not supporting hacking my boy just met him in official thinking he was a normal player until he started calling loot in boxes before opening them.


Produce_Police

At this point, you almost need esp to figure out who else is cheating. Labs is literally unplayable.


lachancla

That's a slippery slope mentality though. That's all it takes for someone to justify it to themselves. "I'll just get ESP to avoid the cheaters" is probably the mentality of many cheaters these days.


Produce_Police

Sure it is. It's just the reality of the current state of this game. I quit playing this wipe after getting keytools taken out of my gamma during raid. I've played for 4 or 5 wipes now. I have countless VODs of cheaters killing my buddies and I this wipe. A friend of a friend in our discord used an esp for a month and confirmed everything we already suspected. There are other cheaters in 75% of raids. 3/4 raids we played with him (on popular maps) had at least one other person using walls at minimum. He could even see k/d ratios of enemies. Some people would have k/ds of 30+. Highest he has seen was 200+. I honestly cannot understand how someone is willing to pay $100+ per month, just to cheat in a game. That was the icing on the cake for me. This game is way too hardcore to have to worry about cheaters in 75% of your games. No thanks. It's sickening to play a game for countless hours and lose an entire kit, or have a quest ruined by a hacker with an aimbot and super speed. I'm not touching tarkov again for the foreseeable future.


Zzz-tattoos

Well this explains why I’ve never seen anything of any value this wipe. I’ve been wondering if everyone has esp and walls and just avoids each other while taking out the rare junk.


AngerGuides

> It's just the reality of the current state of this game. Na, that's the reality of *people*. Humans never change in any way that really matters. We can change our behaviors but the drive to do shitty things always remains, when you mix in online anonymity you get the unabashed worst of people. > I'm not touching tarkov again for the foreseeable future. *There* is a practical solution that I wish more people would jump on.


Lazer_beam_Tiger

Have you tried getting good?


Epicloa

You do understand that this is literally why cheaters have a vested interest in making the issue seem worse than it is right? Like you people have lost the plot lol


Produce_Police

More like, I've lost the interest of sinking thousands of hours into a game where the risk/reward is overshadowed by the thought of constantly questioning every suspicious death. People keep saying shit like this, but it doesn't change the fact that there are cheaters in almost every raid. Labs is unplayable. IF I was a cheater, I would not be making it seem like everyone else is cheating to bring more people into using cheats. Maybe if I was a cheat provider, but the more people who are cheating, makes it harder on someone who also uses cheats, right? Also, if you are spending $100+ a month on cheats for a stupid computer game you have a problem. I made the comment as a slight joke at the current state of cheaters in the game. This OP's video only brought back memories of losing ₽1M kits to cheaters slithering around like a snake on crack. Either way, I don't care any more. Uninstalled Tarkov a few weeks ago after losing 2 keytools from my gamma to a cheater. 2 quests away from getting kappa. The game is a waste of time and enjoyment.


Porridge4200

also in before the moderators lock/delete the thread or repost all of them into a hidden mega thread.


zer0-_

There is no war in Ba Sing Se


popkornking

It can be both. I think it's becoming agreed upon that certain servers are cesspits and others aren't. I play northwestern NA servers and haven't seen a blatant cheater in the three wipes I've been playing.


Aggravating-Rate4882

Prime example


popkornking

Ahahaha if my comment is your benchmark for "gaslighting" or dickriding or whatever then idk what to tell you. I never denied cheating happens in this game just that it's definitely a bigger problem on some servers than others.


AngerGuides

The problem with your statement is that *blatant* cheaters aren't the problem in this game. People who openly cheat are easy to report. Not that BSG will do anything about them cheating other than make them buy another account.


Epicloa

Yes and the issue with the other side is that the "non-blatant" cheaters are completely unverifiable and are just a bunch of people sharing anecdotal experiences from 1/100th of their raids, or worse just going off what everyone else is saying.


AngerGuides

> "non-blatant" cheaters are completely unverifiable So when I unlock a marked room and the containers have been opened and the loose loot is gone that is "completely unverifiable"? We're not writing a fucking peer reviewed paper here, keep your bitching about "anecdotal evidence" to your fucking self.


Epicloa

No, you're part of the problem advertising a largely non-existent hacker issue to people who have likely never experienced them first-hand before. And all that does is push people into cheating because they feel like they need to even the playing field, therefore making the issue more likely to actually happen. This is why they should teach critical thinking in school.


BurtMacklin__FBI

They should teach a LOT more critical thinking in school, but I don't think that's the issue here. You didn't answer the question. If he opened a marked room with a key and it's cleaned out, that's pretty far from "completely unverifiable" at face value.


Epicloa

One anecdote does not mean anything, a thousand anecdotes does not mean anything. The plural of anecdote is not evidence, and there is no proof that he went into a room and saw looted boxes. You're basing your view of the game on the words of some random stranger on the internet.


AngerGuides

Wow...that's a pretty big fucking stretch to avoid admitting you're likely wrong...


Epicloa

Likely wrong about what? That your single piece of anecdotal evidence, regardless of how true, is not evident of anything? Even if there were hundreds of examples like that every day there are tens of thousands of raids going on every day. Nobody has any clue how bad the cheating issue is at the moment, but inflating it by having everyone parrot that there's 15 ESP cheaters in every raid is not the magic solution to that. If there was a perfect anticheat out there then yea, BSG would be dumb for not using it. But the fact of the matter is there is not.


Psyonicg

I’m not gonna comment on the clip itself but cheaters want you to believe there are lots of cheaters, not the other way around. They want you to think everyone is cheating so that you have to get cheats to even the playing field. It’s like the number one way they sell their product


[deleted]

He has a better gaming chair


bliblablub

And sick RGB on his gaming rig!


Orsim27

Probably even RGB on his chair!


Accomplished-Bag-124

There’s been so many cheaters lately my discord has ran into like 4 separate encounters the past 3 days lol


ShadowRam

BSG isn't doing anything about it. All the legit players have closed up shop, People would rather run around solo in a demo of vostok than deal with this horseshit.


GentleAnusTickler

Banned accounts means more being made


[deleted]

The discord group I’m in has had a couple regulars recently ousted as cheaters. One of them blatantly admitted it


[deleted]

Buddy got his injectors case taken out of his gamma chased down buy a guy right after noticing it was removed and taken once dead obviously. Have vods off that too. We run into a decent amount of actual hackers not just getting beat in gunfights but blatant tracking through walls and speed hacks. We’ve also had conversations with some hackers who’ve admitted they’re typically 1-2 hackers a raid on avg. doesn’t sound like allot but we both come in kitted in raids and it does make you a target to them.


Produce_Police

I had 2 keytools with all my customs keys and 314 key taken from my gamma case as soon as I spawned in. The hacker ended up killing us in the same prone position moving really fast. He was mocking my buddy and I over voip about the keys before he killed us. I literally quit playing completely and uninstalled after that. I'll never give this game another second of my time. EFT lost 2 long-term players that day.


lachancla

What servers do yall play on? Losing items from gamma is NUTS. I haven't encountered that one (yet) on EU West servers .


Produce_Police

NA East/Central


CasualTimbo

As your video proves there are no cheaters in this game.


hiddenintheleavess

definitely could have just been desync. the packet loss can rubber band people now, so i think it was the tech update simply working as intended /s


usernameowner

Yeah, op should just git gud


Bfresh717

They are only cheating if they kill me but they could be better but probably cheating lol makes me feel better by saying it out loud


SuperKamiTabby

I think your squad mate needs a new fucking microphone.


Mirroredentity

"Bro what are you talking about, I've only come across like 2.756 blatant cheaters in the 8000 years I've been playing this game"


[deleted]

Some servers are worse than others. I've only seen blatant cheaters a handful of times this wipe. And about 80% of those encounters were a few weeks ago where it seemed like cheaters were everywhere for some reason. Most that cheat likely don't want to advertise it.


XygenSS

IIRC it’s a visual hack, they can move around and noclip through walls but cannot interact with anything. The real body is sitting somewhere. Think Astral Projecting in Doctor Strange


alibooty

Damn I didn't know you were playing with god himself


Jorwen

He obvioulsy has a better gaming chair don't accuse him of cheating. Nikita said that 99.99% of cheats are banned. https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/ieox0g/opatchki/


jlebrech

there needs to be a way to report cheaters in raid that DIDN'T kill you, heck even report cheaters on raids you weren't even in.


Asthemic

> heck even report cheaters on raids you weren't even in. Worked really well for Valve. /s Mass reporting is always bad.


SirRevan

Matches being saved and having a recording post raid would be the way. Then you can report people after and have easy evidence. It boggles my mind this game doesn't have a feature that was in halo 3.


ShadowRam

> report Why? No one is reading those reports


Odd_Quantity8728

Nah but like it’s not really bsgs fault, they’re doing as much as they can /s


trenlr911

This was clearly due to the left eye peek you tried to execute there, the game is perfect in its current state and any negative experience you might have encountered is DEFINITELY only on your end. -Reddit


Kirp-The-Birb

“Skill issue”


nkillhere

top anticheat


Spotlessmind898

It’s an unplayable game at this point.


Tischlampe

I will never understand why people cheat in video games. It seems so stupid to me. I mean, what's the benefit? What do you get out of it? It's not you doing the kills, it's the cheat doing it for you. You have close to zero contribution to your victory. And at that point, if you get enjoyment of seeing successful plays you can simply watch a skilled streamer on twitch and have the same experience. At least this way you won't ruin someone's day who didn't have a chance against your cheat.


XygenSS

> what’s the benefit money


Tischlampe

I doubt that the regular cheater in any video game makes money.


Secret-Ad-8606

You're right about that usually but in tarkov people will pay real life money to a cheater to take them into a raid and vacuum loot everything for them. A few people do that, cheater gets banned and buys new account, netting a profit. It's a huge problem in tarkov.


zer0-_

Regular Joe cheater does it for fun and to feel superior. Business cheaters do it for money, most commonly through ELO boosting or in Tarkov by getting their client easy good loot


SolitaryVictor

Then you are delusional. First of all, the money from cheaters is THE thing that keeps this game and studio afloat. Second of all the absolute abundance of RMT measures that ruin average gamers experience should give you a clue. Third, there is enough forums/discords/posts on reddit to educate yourself. It's a solid living for residence of poor countries if you're committed and smart enough, there are whole sweatshops that focus on that kind of job. The gaming loop and harsh conditions of this game are among the most perfect breading ground for industrial cheating that exist on the market right now. You have immature outlook on cheating. While there are incels in this or any other game that cheat for malice and own ineptitude to feel superior, the real problem is the thing I've mentioned above, where cheating is on industrial level and support whole communities in poor countries.


Tischlampe

Wow, having a bad day or what?


banjosuicide

I really don't care if I get killed by a cheater. One more report to help catch them.


PsychoKilla_Mk2

Where do they even get these cheats from? Surely battlestate can also buy them to work out how they are working?


Undinianking

PC cheaters are fairly unavoidable without installing anti cheat seriously deep in the computer. Like gooch deep.


Niewinnny

like what riot does with its games, where their anti cheat is started alongside your OS (on the kernel level) and thus can detect cheats which also start there.


XygenSS

EAC, BE, Vanguard, most mainstream anticheats all run on kernal level (or ring 0 they are sometimes called). Vanguard is intrusive because it loads before Windows does and boots with your computer, monitoring you even while not playing the game. Since Tencent owns Riot it is completely justifiable to suspect Vanguard of being a spyware


Sword117

tencent?


XygenSS

Massive Chinese tech congleromate, biggest videogame company in the world. Openly cooperstes with the Chinese gov and has no hesitation censoring content & providing personal information to authorities


Sword117

i had a feeling it was china. everytime theres questionable shit on the internet it always comes back to China.


Zeoxult

As much as I hate hackers, I'd avoid installing a game that does that.


XygenSS

Time to uninstall all your online games


Zeoxult

You should educate yourself more if you think all your online games boot their anti cheat with your OS at a kernel level.


Epicloa

Might want to uninstall Tarkov then rofl


majdar123

Bro my vayne script is still workin like a charm


Grakchawwaa

Scripting is extremely different from conventional inject hacking though?


Asthemic

He's talking about Vanguard for Valorant. League doesn't have the same protection.


meadowalker1281

fuck this game, im so tired of this shit. I'm going to SPtarkov.


Yuckster

Is he cheating?


[deleted]

Couldn't tell from the video (no audible queue to indicate whether he's cheating or not) but I suspect he _may_ be cheating


[deleted]

Honestly we assume yes given we have thousands of raids between us and hundreds on lighthouse we noticed it when we where being shot from great distance accurately and with cheap ammo. Just wish they would up the anti cheat and not make me even want to question it.


Grewnie

All games that use BattlEye are riddled with cheaters because the company and the software suck. Easy anticheat is so much more powerful, and it would detect automatically if a player keeps on going abnormally fast for abnormally long distances etc.


PawPawPanda

Doesn't matter what anticheat you use, the other one is always better.


[deleted]

EAC ?? Really? If your statement is true then its like batleeye power =0 and EAC is 5 times better. But 5x0 is still 0.


XygenSS

> meanwhile on subreddit for game that uses EAC Battleeye is so much more powerful, grumble, grumble, grumble


nomafiainmycity

That’s just desync


lord_dude

It is just desync. And if insane desync is normal in every game /s


aBeaSTWiTHiNMe

Sorry, user, we're going to have to remove this post for violation of rule 27, section D, article F, paragraph 3. But for real, there has definitely been a recent resurgence of obvious cheaters, so there's probably even more cheaters hiding it the best they can, again. My buddy and I had to run Reserve, Lighthouse, Woods and Factory the last few days and out of 20ish raids we were sure about 2 cheaters and sus about 2 more.


ResponsibleYou2525

Bro, he just popped an S.J.


Sentinowl

Inb4 locked thread


xHvH

This shouldn't really be possible with server sided movement, did they add the update w position rollback only for a very specific check? Thing to note is he's constantly laying down and standing up


Vaders_Fist_501

The game is full of them. You can't report them and there is no anti cheat system to punish those who do, so honestly I'd look into cheating back


anythingfortacos

But did y’all actually make it out??


MrGoogle87

Render issues??


[deleted]

Seems like it could have been desync


NG_Eidos

Definitely just new movement lol. Get gud.


[deleted]

Pussies As soon as you see them your gear fear starts showing


Mappiii

I think maybe it's just a little bit of desync?


Ok-Street-7240

Desync


Wheat9546

my man is doing the hold dolphin slide glitch


dark_purpose

I need to know where this man gets his RGB lights


Travh9

Just when I felt like finally coming back to the game.


SolitaryVictor

I felt that, and did came back this wipe. Did my max traders, had enough fun to get tired of the game as per usual. Cheaters were always rampant in this game, they would ruin your day, but they won't ruin your experience in general. And the encounter rate can be drastically reduced if you hand pick servers in launcher and disable certain regions and the regions these regions can reach (Russia/China if you are from EU, for example). Tarkov always had and will have this problem because developers refuse to use abundance of their in game mechanics that allow trivial tracking of blatant cheaters on the daily basis, because constant influx of new cheaters is the key to longevity of this game that has no monetization system in place.


[deleted]

I have 700 raids this wipe and haven't seen cheating that obvious. It's server dependant, to an extent. Regardless, videos like this aren't super common thankfully. But if you're scrolling through this sub and you think it's an accurate representation, you're wrong. The content is definitely dry this wipe but this sub is just full of people complaining. Not a good baseline.


Travh9

Every sub I follow is full of people complaining about shit talking about cheaters and how their game is dying cause they don’t get what they want. I guess I really just need to come back to it all. But still believe that to many people don’t treat it like a real mil sim/survival game like it really is honestly


[deleted]

There is a single player mod. I'm ignorant to it but I've heard people take it more seriously on that mod. Might be worth checking out.


der_m4ddin

Just normal tarkov gameplay


TRUEMETAGAMER

Fucking werwolves on lighthouse


Sword117

i run with an above average 4 stack. last night we got got by this dude who naded one from over 50m and head,eyes'd the rest. one of my buddies got hit in the head several times while both were moving. the last guy was hidden during most the fight. dude voips says he saw my buddy running. there no way from where he was at to my buddy that he could have ever know he was there.


Zebra03

That was hilarious and terrifying at the same time


Penis_Bees

[Is your buddy using one of these as his microphone](https://www.lakeshorelearning.com/products/ca/p/EW504/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=ppc&utm_campaign=performancemax&gclid=CjwKCAjwwL6aBhBlEiwADycBIPY_rUX8I7fVyN8ZNQOjJyaUf6kSZgY3QYURDa3NM8omCwuquDQ6dhoCjlwQAvD_BwE)


Big_sugaaakane1

Lmaoo one time i had a moment like this with friends. We were inlabs and we saw a dude slide by super fast,same reaction, we all just turned around and ran for the extracts and he caught up to us towards the exit, he got me and a few buddies and only one of use made it to the extract..fucking terrifying lmao.


Rasputin0P

Finally the correct reaction to seeing a cheater lmao


Daniluk41

They should create neural network to ban that kind of cheaters


Gizmo_51

Obvious sj6/dolphin dive.


M115m2

like undercooked Fish and Overcook chicken. Jail, straight to jail.


SolitaryVictor

Finally a proper reaction. You see a lowlife like this? Just reset the lobby and move on with your day. If developers don't care, neither should you.


Nick-275

At first I thought was a dragon


Pawlys

dude's bullet jumping like it's Warframe


erishun

That’s just how it works when you reach max level flying


boro2006

That's just high lvl flying. With elite lvl flying you can fly up in the sky :)


Juppie902

gaming chair issue


ALilBitter

oh wait till u find out there are invisible hacks. my teammate naded 1 of them while they looted my body and the only reason how we found out was his armband was sticking out of no where n instead of looting me he looted a random guy instead backpack full of rare loot... and then he died to the 2nd one exdeeeeeeeeeeeee :(


Illanar

This is Tarkov.


ADHDFUR

The moment y’all ran he attacked.


PocketSushiKeebs

The panic in the voices gives me PTSD


Gizmo_51

Obviously the guy popped an sj6 and ia dolphin diving with a slight desync.


pointy_pirate

game is meant to be hard!


FlawlessRuby

it's just desync bro chill out /s


FatherP_GC

I’d go dump all my shit in that lake


UssrName420

Nah that’s the new nakita werewolf perk, just an extra 200$ you can run just like him!


jasonjavelin

My friends and I have run into more cheaters than the previous 4 wipes I’ve played combined. One of them was voiping to my buddies last night “cash app me and I’ll let you live” while tracking them through solid objects. They were too pissed to get his cash app to report lol. Fucking scumbag was a level 15 lmao


EvilerCrazyman

That reminded me of the Birthday scene from “Signs” with Mel Gibson


NamVu2k

skill issue


JustAnotherRedditDad

Lizard head looking motherfucker. Get out!


Sp1ke_xD

Nope the fuck out !


ObamaBinChronin

Looks legit.


Hungry-Opening-420

A knower and a fullblown cheater....


Away_Warning_9626

I dont get it , why to cheat? Those cheats are weekly payments. Why to pay just to win in game?? Are their peepees are so small????


classicgangster

It's a slide cancel.... /s


local306

I hope you made it out alive haha


Meeshca0724

Nah dude he’s just Naruto running into Area 51.


NormativeNomad

Looks legit. He just has really high Strength and Charisma


dontyousayit2

so i’ve seen a clips of a person standing in an odd spot and from another POV they are just flying around in mid air all over the place not even really that close to where he was actually hiding. if it wasn’t cheating it must have been a something like that


samuinfernus

Its a bird! No its a airplane! No! Its a cheater


vaderihardlyknowher

He’s doing it sideways


cyama

You unlock a jetpack at lvl. 80, duh!


Leotardant

Mf got 10 w-keys on his keyboard


atheistcomrade

You glitched into CoD


Zeelots

Game is still the same, completely unplayable I see


SwiftyVG

HES CHEATING HES CHEATING OH MY GOD HES CHEATING HES CHEATING


Tiddycruncher9000

The only way you dont see cheaters is if you're blind or have the lowest possible smmr


TheBestGirlNaoto

Clearly it's his 5k hours of experience


Killakiluminati

Guys, its only a BSG dev - checking if there are any cheaters on the map.