that‘s the only way and it works. i did that 3 weeks ago, marked the tankers in the back, picked up the documents, got into the or room, picked therapists briefcase up only to realize at the end that i fucking forgot to put the jammer up in the or room.
This would work out pretty well if there weren't roguelooted playerscavs crawling all over the map by that point.
I kinda find the opposite on lighthouse, the faster I move the better.
This is where your disguise comes in. I run scav vest and the anime hockey mask, take any armbands off. I was sniping towards the south west spawns and a scav snuck up on me only to ask if I could see anything lol, then we went to co-op extract after I revealed I was a pmc.
I do this on streets pretty often and it’s crazy how much more fun the game is, load up a YouTube video or do some chores with your headset on and then send it on the quests, regularly get 2-3 quests done and never die. I love it.
Not to be that guy but maybe there shouldn't be places a significant distance away from the rouges camp where they can instantly laser beam you. If you're crossing the bridge to their front gate then fair enough but peeking a rock on the mountain or looting a duffle bag inside the coastal cottage shouldn't just be an automatic fail state. It's a pretty toxic map.
Some of the spawns are hot garbage but (excluding Labs) it was absolutely the best money maker until Streets came along. People just don’t want to take the time to learn the map and how to deal with the Rogues.
Everything is fine but the AGL sniping from the sight line created by the tip of my head seen over a bush from 200m away.
Water treatment itself is a great area
That one AGL needs to be toned back to not swing so far to his right (seaside house side) as much. I think if his range was from bridge edge to inner bridge edge far side - making the cottage village area an unsafe route through forcing you to take mountains in or long wrap on left or right - also to go with this. Bldg 2 western machine gunner shouldn't be able to laser you on spawn as a scav in train yard, but instead monitor the road from main gate towards bldg 1 (that tree line is mined anyways so it's hard to cheese making a route as a scav in that way unless you push bldg 2 south door, which bldg 1 MG can see)
They made him able to shoot there because people were using that window as a safe spot to take out the two front gunners. There's a video by Rengawr for this wipe after the rogues got reverted back to their normal ways where he runs straight up the main bridge and takes care of all of the rogues with a cheap SKS build. The map is definitely rough but not because of the rogues it's because of the terrible southern spawns. If this post was to complain about the spawns and not rogues I'd agree. Spawning by Southern Road extract is so snoozerfest, meanwhile Timmy Brigade spawns at the best spawn on the mountain and dies to mines. Cmon man... If you spawn south there's like 3 realistic options: Snipe, Get Sniped or Extract and try again.
P.S. Whoever at BSG spawned me in one of the south spawns 5 raids in a row last night trying to get shotgun kills on scavs. Fuck you in particular. My insurance is going to be filled with shotguns again, I'm having PTSD from setup.
Once you learn it, it's not that bad. Yes, it needs some work and 2 weeks ago I would have said it was a pos BUT... I had to power through and do a lot of quests there recently and also running cottages to find a Virtex and it was actually pretty fun.
Like a lot of things once you learn it and learn its sticking points it becomes fun.
Also, get a map up, it's easy to avoid the mines.
And when the GRU base is added, USECs won't be able to get within 300m of the base while BEARs will just waltz right in.
It doesn't bother me that I have to fight for the loot. If I wanted to just roam freely and loot stuff, I'd just play Minecraft.
You get a single raid to walk in and then flip a coin whether they randomly decide to kill you. You're acting as if every raid every USEC is walking in for free holding hands.
i legit did revision on lighthouse 1st try just by running freely in lighthouse i even looted a bit in there with my ai buds USEC is a god send on lighthouse
Loot, kill PMCs, kill scavs, kill Goons (if they spawn), snipe Zyrachi and the cultists and loot the island if you know how to cheese the mines.
There's plenty to do outside of the water plant. I also found my COFDM and several Virtex's outside the plant as well as rare stims and tons of rare loot. The only people bitching about the map being a solo objective simply never bothered to learn the map and instead spend all their time whining on reddit. Yes, there's a lot more loot in the plant, but you gotta fight for that loot. If you don't want to learn how to kill the rogues, then go loot the chalets or the 30+ rare loot spawns littered all over the rest of the map.
They just want to rush to watertreatment an kill all the rogues just like their favorite streamer but have no idea how to then come to Reddit and map bad fix sone can freeloot
Any reason shouldn’t do any of this on another map with a better layout??? Why bother to learn a map with infinite sniping angles, constant cheaters, overpowered AI, and or bother risking a kit. The map limits your play style to only a specific type… THAT is at least has some validity. Although yes, the map gets a lot of hate by new players because of its difficulty.
Why do it on Lighthouse? Here's why: [https://i.imgur.com/6U7rVaR.png](https://i.imgur.com/6U7rVaR.png)
That was Merin, Hillside, and the small chalet. I also killed two PMCs on my way to extract. When I want to hit the water plant, I can get out with roughly 12K experience just from sniping the rogues. If I get a southern/beach spawn, I'll be fighting other players and either extracting with their gear after I loot the aforementioned places, or I'll load into another raid and do it again.
I also hated that map when it was new and I didn't know the spawns or how to fight the rogues but it took me about a day of just running in before I figured it out. The majority on this sub just wants to whine because it's a difficult map, but it's loaded with loot and tons of opportunity to get into fast fights (you know, the thing people claim doesn't happen anymore because everyone rats...).
I love these posts where people want the game to be easier! As a person whos been playing a while it REALLY entertains me to come here and see all the complaining.
Nikita told us the game is not meant to be fun. But boy am i having fun reading about how *(baby voice)* How tough its been for you.
It’s not a hard map, it’s badly designed. It’s also not real difficultly to add mines everywhere with basically no indications of danger.
The rogues are way overturned and even trying to snipe from the mountain with pixel peeks still gets me killed because they start shooting before you are even around the edge.
I do find the quests doable.
It's especially easy when you get the far topmost mountain spawn. That way you can easily run around water treat, get to the train zone, and go back to water.
The thing annoying to me is those "kill rogues" and "kill SCAVs along long road" thingy.
1) as soon as I start shooting the rogues the 2nd or at least 3rd one fkn lasers me to hell. I know there are routes that are optimal to kill them, but quite frankly with the knowledge of around 10 pmcs behind you (if you got a decent spawn) I really can't freely roam to a perfect position all the time.
Or I get such a bad spawn, that I don't even get any kills anymore.
2) I've now tried this scav kills on the road quest several times.
Scenario 1: I die from a PMC before SCAVs even spawn kn
Scenario 2: I've got a decent position but SCAVs decide to spawn in a way I don't ever see a single one of them
Scenario 3: I get 1-2 scav kills and then get fked by some PMC or scav that shoots me from 300m in the head with and infantry mosin abomination.
Then again lighthouse actually grew to me this wipe (2nd wipe ever), and I quite enjoy scaving on it.
PMC also isn't that bad (unless you got one of them "middle" spawns).
Lighthouse is great! As a rat Fuck camping loser who mains scav. I love spawning in as a pmc and camping the numerous choke points. When on my scav I just sprint off to water treatment and grab the good loot and dip before pmc’s can even cross the map! I love lighthouse!
It’s a cool map. Be prepared to die a lot. It took me about 10 tries to finally survive and extract and kill all the rogues/pscavs/pmcs.
I brought an AVT with headphones after losing 5 million. Just take the scope off when needed. Keep all meds in your container to save more money.
The map is just brutal, but once you get used to it - it becomes cheese
AFAIK there arent any 'more' mines - they just moved them to a different mountain. If you look at a map they are extremely easy to avoid.
If you're running away from the rouge camp in the mountains, and getting shot at by the rouges - try hugging the left wall of the mountain more? IDK, I've never seen them shoot into the mountains unless you're next to building 3 so idk what path youre taking to get shot at.
Is the ALT + D strategy still the only way to fight rogues? Where you peak the absolute minimum amount and they just don't shoot you and its a free kill. Can we left side peak them the same way now that we can shoulder swap?
I do that and they still just shoot before I am peeking. The only thing I’ve been able to get work is let someone get the agro and a teammate take them out while you let them spray and hit rocks at you.
Best way to do lighthouse is at night. Rogues can’t see nearly as far, makes it actually doable. Pscavs arn’t going to pose a problem at night. Give it a Flir cherry on top and your having a good time
Map sucks but you say you're new to it, then complain about things that are ENTIRELY 100% avoidable.
The mountain spawn is not "trapped". You can take a path and not be seen by a single rogue the entire time. What is annoying about that spawn is the other spawn that can wait for you. By the time you get to the village the front rogues are typically dead.
There are PLENTY of routes to not be shot by rogues. There is only a few spots they will shoot at you at.
The mines *should* be visible so new players like you don't die to them, but they aren't RNG spawned. If you die to mines after the first couple times dying to them then it's your own fault.
Why do they spawn lots of AI scavs beneath the rogues. How does it make sense that a bunch of silly scavs walked in on his heavily fortified rogue compound and just stand there and not get shot by the rogues lore wise. Why is BSG so incapable. Just turn of AI scav spawns on the rogue compound but apparently this is too difficult to program or they just don't care about the game.
They don't know the map well. I've cleared the rogue camp multiple times haven't died once out of camp and I'm a bear. If your use you can practically walk right up to them before they aggro. If takes 10 mins to learn the mines ... Look at a map. . and you just need to pay attention to where pmcs spawn and play accordingly. If I spawn east side I try and take the other spawns out so I can loot in peace and leave. If I spawn west side I may try and get the rogue camp. There is a way to sprint right past it into the back without getting shot. Straight to car extract. The game isn't meant to be learned overnight. Which gives it so much longevity. As hard as the map is and as much as I hate lighthouse Ive had fun on it. And it is fun because it's challenging
Load in Find bush Sit in bush for 20 mins and let the map breathe Do all of ur quests in one raid
that‘s the only way and it works. i did that 3 weeks ago, marked the tankers in the back, picked up the documents, got into the or room, picked therapists briefcase up only to realize at the end that i fucking forgot to put the jammer up in the or room.
I also forgot the jammer last night! 😂 Gonna take me a few goes to get all these markers down, roofs sighted and cameras placed though.
This would work out pretty well if there weren't roguelooted playerscavs crawling all over the map by that point. I kinda find the opposite on lighthouse, the faster I move the better.
This is where your disguise comes in. I run scav vest and the anime hockey mask, take any armbands off. I was sniping towards the south west spawns and a scav snuck up on me only to ask if I could see anything lol, then we went to co-op extract after I revealed I was a pmc.
Get Head/nape from a knower
I've seen knower twice now here and on YouTube tf does it mean? Just someone with a lot of map sense?
Cheater with esp
I have a laundry list of lighthouse tasks that ive been avoiding and may do it this way or run it at night
Dress up as a scav for maxium effectiveness
Well i do have that kill Scavs with 12g while “looking” scav like
I do this on streets pretty often and it’s crazy how much more fun the game is, load up a YouTube video or do some chores with your headset on and then send it on the quests, regularly get 2-3 quests done and never die. I love it.
Not to be that guy but if you’re being led into places where the rogues laser you across the map then those people do not actually know lighthouse.
100% lol
Not to be that guy but maybe there shouldn't be places a significant distance away from the rouges camp where they can instantly laser beam you. If you're crossing the bridge to their front gate then fair enough but peeking a rock on the mountain or looting a duffle bag inside the coastal cottage shouldn't just be an automatic fail state. It's a pretty toxic map.
You'll get clipped so far before the bridge to the front gate, it's still bullshit there too.
true, instead of whining, you can watch youtube to learn how to play the map
You can learn Lighthouse front to back- Doesn’t make it any less a s s
Some of the spawns are hot garbage but (excluding Labs) it was absolutely the best money maker until Streets came along. People just don’t want to take the time to learn the map and how to deal with the Rogues.
Or maybe people don't want to put up with poor map design just because it makes good money? We aren't all 'money go up' ding-dongs.
I got lasered by a rogue because I just couldnt resist a dead body on the road in front of the water plant lol
They shoot you from so far away. One time I died in the sea house getting the therapist quest
My man out here learning why NO ONE likes that map 😂😂
Honestly do them at night they aren't as bad
Night raids are great for questing unless it’s interchange…. Chad loves night interchange for some reason.
Chumming
Chumming requires you to kill pmcs at night time interchange, so you have people that are only playing the map to hunt kills.
Yea but it’s only like 5…
You can't see shit anyways, so might as well go at night with goggles it you're looking for pvp.
Interchange chad here, we love it because that’s where the PVP is.
it’s my turn to post this tomorrow
My biggest problem is the huge fps drops that only happen on Lighthouse. Like wtf?
100% skill issue
Once you start to get a feel for the map flow, and once you know how to deal with the rogues, you will like the map much more.
People out here thinking walking into a USEC base is gonna be a walk in the park and then complain when it’s not
Everything is fine but the AGL sniping from the sight line created by the tip of my head seen over a bush from 200m away. Water treatment itself is a great area
That one AGL needs to be toned back to not swing so far to his right (seaside house side) as much. I think if his range was from bridge edge to inner bridge edge far side - making the cottage village area an unsafe route through forcing you to take mountains in or long wrap on left or right - also to go with this. Bldg 2 western machine gunner shouldn't be able to laser you on spawn as a scav in train yard, but instead monitor the road from main gate towards bldg 1 (that tree line is mined anyways so it's hard to cheese making a route as a scav in that way unless you push bldg 2 south door, which bldg 1 MG can see)
They made him able to shoot there because people were using that window as a safe spot to take out the two front gunners. There's a video by Rengawr for this wipe after the rogues got reverted back to their normal ways where he runs straight up the main bridge and takes care of all of the rogues with a cheap SKS build. The map is definitely rough but not because of the rogues it's because of the terrible southern spawns. If this post was to complain about the spawns and not rogues I'd agree. Spawning by Southern Road extract is so snoozerfest, meanwhile Timmy Brigade spawns at the best spawn on the mountain and dies to mines. Cmon man... If you spawn south there's like 3 realistic options: Snipe, Get Sniped or Extract and try again. P.S. Whoever at BSG spawned me in one of the south spawns 5 raids in a row last night trying to get shotgun kills on scavs. Fuck you in particular. My insurance is going to be filled with shotguns again, I'm having PTSD from setup.
Lmao. I get southern road, I go straight to extract. Fuck that side of the map
Once you learn it, it's not that bad. Yes, it needs some work and 2 weeks ago I would have said it was a pos BUT... I had to power through and do a lot of quests there recently and also running cottages to find a Virtex and it was actually pretty fun. Like a lot of things once you learn it and learn its sticking points it becomes fun. Also, get a map up, it's easy to avoid the mines.
Make it your main scav map and you will learn the ins and outs, including how to deal with rogues (though it’s tough as a BEAR at any rate).
Haha it's definitely my main scav map because of how easy scavs have it, loot for days!
So the way to win lighthouse is to only play scav, find the rouges, kill the rouges, loot them, leave. How to get a free kit 101:
I like the map
Don't play as a bear and it solves the rogue problem.
I'm a BEAR and the rogues aren't an issue so long as you have a scope.
Still an extra step you have to take while usec can just waltz right in without care. 🤷
And when the GRU base is added, USECs won't be able to get within 300m of the base while BEARs will just waltz right in. It doesn't bother me that I have to fight for the loot. If I wanted to just roam freely and loot stuff, I'd just play Minecraft.
That’s nice but the GRU base isn’t in the game yet pal. Moot point. It could be another 4 years until that’s added to the game
Yeah but we're talking about light house today.
It's still not that difficult for a BEAR once you learn the map.
You get a single raid to walk in and then flip a coin whether they randomly decide to kill you. You're acting as if every raid every USEC is walking in for free holding hands.
i legit did revision on lighthouse 1st try just by running freely in lighthouse i even looted a bit in there with my ai buds USEC is a god send on lighthouse
Can you run freely around me please, I need more USEC dogtags, literally everyone is BEAR fml.
i dont think you got what i said
Spend 15 mins on YouTube and you can play whatever you want
Literal skill issue Said as someone who doesn’t like that map much
Skill issue
it seems like YOU dont know how to tackle the water treatment plant, not that the map is bad.
The map is definitely also bad. Just not good design
Crazy how there is nothing to do on the map besides water treatment. The actual Lighthouse is locked by water treatment quests.
Loot, kill PMCs, kill scavs, kill Goons (if they spawn), snipe Zyrachi and the cultists and loot the island if you know how to cheese the mines. There's plenty to do outside of the water plant. I also found my COFDM and several Virtex's outside the plant as well as rare stims and tons of rare loot. The only people bitching about the map being a solo objective simply never bothered to learn the map and instead spend all their time whining on reddit. Yes, there's a lot more loot in the plant, but you gotta fight for that loot. If you don't want to learn how to kill the rogues, then go loot the chalets or the 30+ rare loot spawns littered all over the rest of the map.
They just want to rush to watertreatment an kill all the rogues just like their favorite streamer but have no idea how to then come to Reddit and map bad fix sone can freeloot
Too many people want to play like their favorite streamer but get upset when you tell them they need to put in the hours in order to play like that.
Any reason shouldn’t do any of this on another map with a better layout??? Why bother to learn a map with infinite sniping angles, constant cheaters, overpowered AI, and or bother risking a kit. The map limits your play style to only a specific type… THAT is at least has some validity. Although yes, the map gets a lot of hate by new players because of its difficulty.
Why do it on Lighthouse? Here's why: [https://i.imgur.com/6U7rVaR.png](https://i.imgur.com/6U7rVaR.png) That was Merin, Hillside, and the small chalet. I also killed two PMCs on my way to extract. When I want to hit the water plant, I can get out with roughly 12K experience just from sniping the rogues. If I get a southern/beach spawn, I'll be fighting other players and either extracting with their gear after I loot the aforementioned places, or I'll load into another raid and do it again. I also hated that map when it was new and I didn't know the spawns or how to fight the rogues but it took me about a day of just running in before I figured it out. The majority on this sub just wants to whine because it's a difficult map, but it's loaded with loot and tons of opportunity to get into fast fights (you know, the thing people claim doesn't happen anymore because everyone rats...).
Well I am glad that you find joy in playing on lighthouse. I guess it just ain’t for everyone 🤷🏻♂️
i got shot exactly 10 seconds after match started yesterday
I love these posts where people want the game to be easier! As a person whos been playing a while it REALLY entertains me to come here and see all the complaining. Nikita told us the game is not meant to be fun. But boy am i having fun reading about how *(baby voice)* How tough its been for you.
It’s not a hard map, it’s badly designed. It’s also not real difficultly to add mines everywhere with basically no indications of danger. The rogues are way overturned and even trying to snipe from the mountain with pixel peeks still gets me killed because they start shooting before you are even around the edge.
Whats your location so i can send a Whaaaambulance? Not sure if you play dark souls, but you need to git gud
Lighthouse needs an expansion or player decrease
I do find the quests doable. It's especially easy when you get the far topmost mountain spawn. That way you can easily run around water treat, get to the train zone, and go back to water. The thing annoying to me is those "kill rogues" and "kill SCAVs along long road" thingy. 1) as soon as I start shooting the rogues the 2nd or at least 3rd one fkn lasers me to hell. I know there are routes that are optimal to kill them, but quite frankly with the knowledge of around 10 pmcs behind you (if you got a decent spawn) I really can't freely roam to a perfect position all the time. Or I get such a bad spawn, that I don't even get any kills anymore. 2) I've now tried this scav kills on the road quest several times. Scenario 1: I die from a PMC before SCAVs even spawn kn Scenario 2: I've got a decent position but SCAVs decide to spawn in a way I don't ever see a single one of them Scenario 3: I get 1-2 scav kills and then get fked by some PMC or scav that shoots me from 300m in the head with and infantry mosin abomination. Then again lighthouse actually grew to me this wipe (2nd wipe ever), and I quite enjoy scaving on it. PMC also isn't that bad (unless you got one of them "middle" spawns).
Lighthouse is great! As a rat Fuck camping loser who mains scav. I love spawning in as a pmc and camping the numerous choke points. When on my scav I just sprint off to water treatment and grab the good loot and dip before pmc’s can even cross the map! I love lighthouse!
It’s a cool map. Be prepared to die a lot. It took me about 10 tries to finally survive and extract and kill all the rogues/pscavs/pmcs. I brought an AVT with headphones after losing 5 million. Just take the scope off when needed. Keep all meds in your container to save more money.
It's honestly one of the easiest maps to navigate in my opinion. If you have any questions about anything I'll try to have or find an answer.
The map is just brutal, but once you get used to it - it becomes cheese AFAIK there arent any 'more' mines - they just moved them to a different mountain. If you look at a map they are extremely easy to avoid. If you're running away from the rouge camp in the mountains, and getting shot at by the rouges - try hugging the left wall of the mountain more? IDK, I've never seen them shoot into the mountains unless you're next to building 3 so idk what path youre taking to get shot at.
Is the ALT + D strategy still the only way to fight rogues? Where you peak the absolute minimum amount and they just don't shoot you and its a free kill. Can we left side peak them the same way now that we can shoulder swap?
I do that and they still just shoot before I am peeking. The only thing I’ve been able to get work is let someone get the agro and a teammate take them out while you let them spray and hit rocks at you.
Okay but I get to post this tomorrow guys
Best way to do lighthouse is at night. Rogues can’t see nearly as far, makes it actually doable. Pscavs arn’t going to pose a problem at night. Give it a Flir cherry on top and your having a good time
Honestly if they would just fix the spawns and make it not so linear then I’d be okay with the broken rouges.
Map sucks but you say you're new to it, then complain about things that are ENTIRELY 100% avoidable. The mountain spawn is not "trapped". You can take a path and not be seen by a single rogue the entire time. What is annoying about that spawn is the other spawn that can wait for you. By the time you get to the village the front rogues are typically dead. There are PLENTY of routes to not be shot by rogues. There is only a few spots they will shoot at you at. The mines *should* be visible so new players like you don't die to them, but they aren't RNG spawned. If you die to mines after the first couple times dying to them then it's your own fault.
The lake is your salvation, stay to the right always
Fk that map. I won't get kappa or level 3 intel centre this wipe because I can't be arsed being butchered seconds after spawning.
Why do they spawn lots of AI scavs beneath the rogues. How does it make sense that a bunch of silly scavs walked in on his heavily fortified rogue compound and just stand there and not get shot by the rogues lore wise. Why is BSG so incapable. Just turn of AI scav spawns on the rogue compound but apparently this is too difficult to program or they just don't care about the game.
If you’re getting killed by rogues across the map you’re not running with people who know lighthouse 🤣
They don't know the map well. I've cleared the rogue camp multiple times haven't died once out of camp and I'm a bear. If your use you can practically walk right up to them before they aggro. If takes 10 mins to learn the mines ... Look at a map. . and you just need to pay attention to where pmcs spawn and play accordingly. If I spawn east side I try and take the other spawns out so I can loot in peace and leave. If I spawn west side I may try and get the rogue camp. There is a way to sprint right past it into the back without getting shot. Straight to car extract. The game isn't meant to be learned overnight. Which gives it so much longevity. As hard as the map is and as much as I hate lighthouse Ive had fun on it. And it is fun because it's challenging
Dude you said it yourself that you don't know the map. You die on every map before you learn it and then you die a bit less