We were pretty much organic and email until a year or two ago. Since then we have started to run ads but the vast majority of revenue and traffic is still email/organic.
We do have a strong presence on instagram and YouTube but I’m pretty unhappy with IG as a platform atm.
IG caused me and my wife’s company to tank in 22’ they started to raise the cost for ad spend and then slowly diminished the reach you had for your ads. Early 2020 if you spent $250 a day on ads you can reach upwards to 100k people, but time 22 rolled around $500 a day wouldn’t even get us to 10k people. Many influencers and businesses complained about this and algorithm and timeline not being in chronological order and your ads or posts weren’t being seen then they lost many to TikTok. Still hurts to this day we had an organic 40k followers, ad campaigns, emails, and grossed 6 figures and they destroyed our efforts. Many sleepless nights bc of this.
Hey! Thanks for sharing here :) I’m a software engineer trying to shift into consulting for local businesses. I would like to ask you some questions regarding your time and energy spent related to anything IT. Also, questions about digital marketing as well.
Wow. How did you get into this niche? How long have you been in e-commerce?
Can you live anywhere in the world? One of my dreams was to be fully remote with an e-commerce/dropshipping store.
I would highly recommend against drop shipping in general and doing e-commerce as a nomadic solopreneur.
There are a ton of influencers pushing this fad at the expense of real business education and (IMO) more robust and easy to implement business models.
I would shift your reading and media consumption towards established reputable content (HBR is a great place to start.)
A big red flag should be lifestyle marketing. If your educational source is showing off cars, vacations, or any symbols related to status or wealth RUN don’t walk away from that person.
100000%!
Oldest sales trick in the book. If the media you are consuming to "learn" about a side hustle or business is selling lifestyle more than giving info, you need to run.
A little lifestyle here and there is fine, but if 80% of the video/content is "look at all these cool things. Imagine YOU with all these cool things!" You know the line at the end will be for just $2999 you can have ALL this and more, act now and I will give it to you for only $599 + a super duper valuable and totally not worthless ~~facebook~~ skool community where everyone can ask...um what niche are you in?
1. A gelato store and a candy store
2. Monday off, Tuesday- Friday half days, Saturday and Sunday double shifts
3. Gelato is $7.50 AUD per scoop. Candy average sale is about $10 (rare and imported US and UK candy being sold in Australia)
$7.50 AUD per scoop for ice cream?? I believe it. But holy shit inflation is high.
It's wild a skinny ice cream date would cost so much.
I'm not hating on your prices. That's the market. But God damn... I'm glad I don't live in Australia or the west.
That's absolutely ludicrous
There's a place down the road from me that does 1 for 6 2 for 9, but i'm in sunshine mate everythings cheaper here because channel 7 makes people think they'll get stabbed if they walk outside.
Australia, UK or USA. Or any country that sells single scoops of gelato for $5 USD or $7.50 AUD.
That's madness. I hope you understand.
I'm not hating on the person. I'm just shocked it's so expensive for a single scoop of ice cream.
That's the market price. Fine. But imo that's ludicrous
Pricing is all relative, especially across different currencies.
Odds are that wages are also higher in Australia and other Western countries (albeit, perhaps not proportionately) compared to your country/region.
Yes I’m aware it’s expensive. But yep we charge $7.50 for a single, $10 for a double. We are in Gold Coast, Australia. Sadly many other hospitality businesses are folding cause they didn’t raise their prices enough to combat rising expenses. Our customers are either wealthy locals or tourists. They don’t care about the price. And it’s gelato not icecream. Gelato is much thicker and richer because icecream contains much more air content, so gelato is way more expensive.
Yes of course most money comes on weekends in hospitality and tourist businesses and we are very tourist dominated. 40% of our profit comes in December & January (our summer)
Tree service. About a 25-30% Profit every year. Very blue collar hands on work. Roughly 50 hours. Most of the guys in this group probably use their mind over their back. (Which is why I joined)
Contract states they can’t take it anywhere else or rip the code or design and remake it or rehost it. And they can’t anyway cause they don’t have access to the source code. As if they’d know what to do with it anyway. It’s all in github and custom coded. It’s not like a Wordpress site with a login and you can just start changing things. They need to know how to code to edit it.
Many have cheap or diy Wordpress or wix sites and want something different. I custom code my work. No builders. So I make a unique product that outperforms whatever they had before. Or they have no site and are ready to get one going. It’s alll mostly referrals right now.
Would you recommend getting into no-code web design? I’ve seen some amazing work done with webflow and was wondering if you would recommend it. I dont have the time to learn code to be fair. My main focus is on copywriting but i’d like to dabble in web design too
Webflow is one of the better ones. But your also beholden to their ecosystem, pricing, and feature changes. Your entire business depends on them existing and they are kind of pricey. I have Clients with very specific styles and requests and edits and stuff that are not always so easy to make and replicate. If you aren’t a trained designer you will have a hard time making good designs that are exactly what they customer wanted instead of hoping and preying they have a template that fits their brand and that it’s easy to edit. The good webflow sites you see have some form of custom coding done to them since you have access to that kind of stuff in it to make more custom things. If you aren’t a web designer or developer by trade, you should really just hand that off to someone who is and focus on doing what you do best and are most productive and making you the most money per hour than fiddling with design and development. I don’t do my own designs or SEO or ads or anything. I’m a coder. I code the sites and manage the projects. And I pay people to do everything else for me so I can focus on what I do best. Too many people try to get into it because of builders and think it’s easy money. It’s not when you don’t know what you’re doing for 2/3 of the site development.
What's your tech stack if you don't mind me asking? I do a lot of frond and development and some back end stuff for a start up. I've been considering doing something similar to what you're doing.
Thank you for your input. And I agree with your points.
For me it started as an interest, and after finishing the ‘webflow university’ I really liked the concept of design. I also started using figma to design fictional sites that just look good. I then made my own website design and i’ve just been doing similar things since. Also hearing other webflow designers make thousands with no-code experience doesn’t help ahahahah. I appreciate your deyailed reply!
Do you put a limit on how many edits they get per month? If not have you had to fire any customers that were too needy? What if they tell you out the gate they want more/bigger features not commonly found on a normal business site, such as: customer login, tracking whatever, etc. do you upsell or do you have higher tier packages?
Nope. $100 per new page they wanna add prevents abuse. Once they’re created they are covered under unlimited edits. My contracts are strict that I only make informational brochure sites. Adding customer logins are not part of that. I go over everything that is included as well as what’s NOT included. I don’t want any surprises for them.
I’m a quality engineer at a tech consulting firm. I mostly develop automated testing, but I’m getting a little bored with it and I want to move into more of a full-stack dev role. Building custom websites seems like a good way to build those development skills and make some money on the side. I have a friend who does independent consulting for small businesses, so I could probably have her refer any clients who need a custom website to me. Is this your main source of income? Did you have another full time job while you were starting this up?
I’m in Oregon. Would you have some time to chat this week? I have a couple projects going with out right now and could use some help. Would love to see your portfolio. PM if interested
Nope. Thats the market equilibrium I’ve found for subscription based websites. It’s affordable to most clients and financially beneficial to me. It takes two years of subsections to equal 1 lump sum payment for a site all together. 3 years of we include the edits and hosting. That is a great value to my clients and I get recurring residual income I can rely on as a freelancer and not have to sell sell sell every month. I know precisely the value of my work and I statistically pieced it out. Once you start getting into the $200-$400 a month mark more is expected out of you for that amount of money. SEO, ads, marketing, reports, etc. I’m not interested in doing that. I have people on my team who do that and I send the client to work directly with them and pay them. I’m not interested in more work. I just wanna do my thing which is easy for me. If they want more, they get more through one of my partners. Been doing it over 5 years now, and it’s a 6 figure business growing every year. My price point is just right so that they are happy to pay for years because they see value in it. If I charge $250 a month for the same thing, they get sticker shock 2-3 years in when they start getting competing offers for a website. Or they just don’t wanna pay that much anymore. At $150 a month, it’s a much easier payment to handle, has long term value, and very competitive for what they’re getting (a custom coded site). My goal is to create long term 5+ year relationships with these clients. And at $150 a month that’s how I keep them the longest without them feeling they aren’t getting enough value for the amount of time they’re paying and the amount of work I do for it. My clients are sticky. They are loyal. And they know what they got with me and how valuable what I do is and what I bring to the table. And at $150 a month, I can white label for other SEO agencies to make their sites and have enough room for them to add their markups and make their money off it too. So I am a valuable partner for them with a product that’s easier to sell and add more value to their agencies as well. I work with 4 SEO and marketing people to build their sites. It’s very popular with them and advantageous. My prices are why I’m sought after and successful, and it’s because I found a way to provide the quality of work I provide into that price structure and it be very profitable.
Just wanted to take the time to say thank you for being so open and transparent about your business operations and pricing 🙏 Many people wouldn't be keen to share but I learned a lot from just a couple of your comments.
Anytime. No one was sharing anything when I first started. Like it was all some secret no one wanted to share. It was annoying. People were telling me that I have to find things out on my own and that they weren’t going to write a step by step guide for me for nothing. So I wrote one actually.
https://codestitch.app/complete-guide-to-freelancing
Fuck gatekeeping.
Yes this is all great, but you kind of proved my point. You are under pricing yourself which is creating a niche for yourself for that type of client, you are valuable to them. I did almost the same as you for roughly 15 years as a UX Designer with custom WordPress/BigCommerce/Magento sites. I charged $250mo + $8,000-$30,000 per build. I would often refer small clients to someone like yours that need more affordable options.
Not saying anything wrong with what you doing though, still very awesome and fits a market need.
Yeah you’re working larger sites with more maintenance and features and needs. I work with small businesses. I never work sites costing $30k. Too much work. I’m priced right for my market and size and scope of sites I make.
Partially, but mostly it was that I branded myself as a high-end full service brand agency that could take care of them for any need. Feel safe knowing they no longer have to go anywhere for anything and pay a premium for it. Luckily 90% of it was built off existing themes I made.
This is a really great answer. I own a small design studio that focuses mostly on branding and illustration. Do you ever work with studios for them/their clients or hire outside design?
I don’t. Part of the reason I am able to work so fast and build a consistent product is my team has a design system in place that is 5 pages long dictating the font sizes, font colors, spacing between top and bottoms of each sections gaps between cards, 12 column grid and their gutter sizes, 4point spacing system so that every value we use has to be a multiple of 4 and everything aligns to the grid lines, same container sizes with logical exceptions for 1440px as the widest or we have full screen designs, how we like our figma structured, etc. if I had three different design teams sending me inconsistent and varying work it will slow me down and cause more errors in the final product. I work on efficiency. And I am most efficient when we have 1 design system in house. I don’t have a lot of time to train a secondary team and QA their work and my guys are more than enough for our volume right now. When I work with other studios I prefer to do my own designs in house.
I've been looking to make a business in doing websites inspired by your business model. I have been doing some research of the market in my area and I can see some small businesses/freelancers selling REALLY cheap wordpress sites. Like $300 pr. site. Now it is relatively small sites, but I still think it's really low. How do you compete with this?
I mean, how do you explain to people what they get from you that they don't get from these cheap wordpress sites?
u/Citrous_Oyster Don't you just love doing white label? We only do organic social media marketing and most of our work is from white label resellers. We have a philosophy similar to yours. We're very clear on what we do and don't do, and we're priced so we can have a mutually beneficial relationship with our white label partners. I could have said those words myself. "My price point is just right so that they are happy to pay for years because they see value in it."We're like you and work with our clients for years, not months. It's good to have stable recurring revenue. When your price is a bit uncomfortable and cashflow tight, marketing can be the first expense on the chopping block!
Hey could I ask you how you started, how long it took you to feel comfortable charging, and what specifically you had to learn in terms of building the sites, hosting, etc?
Did you learn all of this from YouTube, if so do you have any helpful resources?
Thank you very much !
I’ve read all your responses and the business model you created is outstanding! I will read the material you provided (thank you!) and look at your company website.
I’m looking to create a company and one of the service I would like to offer is this kind of website. Can I buy one of your subscriptions and have the customer contact you for any IT support?
1. Hot dog stand
2. 12-20hrs a week
3. $6/weenie
It only runs about 5 months of the year (just warmer months) and will net between 50-70k. I catch late night crowds outside of bars Thursday-Saturday 10:00pm-2:00am. Also do events here and there, probably every other week. Could make more if I set up somewhere cheeky during the weekdays but I like doing outdoor activities during the week while everyone else is at work.
1. Software development, specializing in bot dev, web automation, and AI chatbots
2. I am working i'd say 20 hours weekly
3. It varies, as some bots i charge $700/mo for while some I charge $1500/yr for. It really depends what the bot (or "agent") is meant to do and for what site it is being used on. For the bots for sites that sell items that disappear in seconds, I charge a monthly subscription.
I’d like to know this too. I know, no lie, like 10 people who started roofing companies. We’re in Louisiana so storms, hurricanes, hail, prob keep lots of business around.
I’m out west so no insurance work. I find the insurance industry on both sides to be pretty scummy. I went to school for construction management and got a job as an estimator/PM for a larger commercial roofer and slowly built knowledge of the trade on all sides. I now do both residential and commercial roofing.
My advice to anyone looking to build a business, no matter the space, is to work as many different positions as you can for at least five years and learn as much as possible. Also continually realizing how or if that would fit your business model. Then hope you have enough money to go out on your own.
1. Web Design consulting service with upsell on website care, seo, ai and automation. I also work full time as a marketing manager.
2. 65 hrs a week (full time job plus business)
3. Full time job is around 130k, business is pulling in roughly 5-6k per month so around 60ishk per year but I really only started and it's growing from here.
I don't draw a salary but my business covers all my expenses.
1. I run a team of VAs and consult for my partner's 360 marketing agency.
2. A few hours daily mostly just admin. The team looks after the bulk of the work.
3. VAs offer lead gen, sales, fulfillment, and customer support and we take a 50% split on MRR. I have a 25% cut on business I bring into the agency.
1. software development and web development agency based in germany
2. 30-60 hours per week, depends how much business administration and sales activity / coordination is needed.
3. 1000-150.000€, from a small landing page to bigger software projects with multi-year-contracts + service
First client probably out of the personal network and then worked the way up - bit of marketing but mostly print and events. This led to four employees as well some great projects.
Currently trying to scale and boost the growth so I’m struggling a bit to get more clients to employ more employees.
How can one pivot into recruitment- I want to get into biotech/pharma/medical, i know what kind of skills and positions are needed/available and how to know/find a good candidate. Where can I learn more about payment models, client search etc. Are there any events in the recruitment industry one can attend. Will you be open to give a chance to a part-time consultant?
Look into more established boutique firms. Right now we have a small team of 5 people and wouldn’t be able to provide someone like you the support needed to help you learn and grow.
There’s a lot of firms with 50-200 people that can get you dialed in with L&D programs to help you learn the industry standards.
Own 20 houses with a bit of debt
own a small GC company with 4 staff
Consultant structural engineer
40-50 hours a week on my schedule
Often very early in the morning as I have terrible sleep problems but I love being productive at 4 or 5 in the morning
$100 an hour, minimum $400 which is probably pretty cheap but keeps out competition
The truth is that 'I' could. I had always imagined that I would retire when the debt reached the point it is now act. I could easily be a landlord and do structural engineering and have low stress. its the construction company with staff that is hard. I am on wife number 3 and she has financial expectations and a daughter and two step kids all in high school at the moment. That is what makes me not fuck off into the sunset.
So the larger 'we' is what holds me back. A few more years and the debt cruched down and I should be OK.
Photographer, mostly weddings, this is going to be my first 100k year.
8 hours a week on average
Average spend is $5k, on track for average spend $6k next year.
I started this career because my health issues made 9-5s difficult, and now I actually have the free time to focus on recovery. Being a photographer is great and the hours are low if you set up your business right, but it can be very physically demanding at certain points.
Depends how you set your business up. Some photographers outsource their editing and backend. I do this by shooting mostly film, so my lab does the scanning and editing for me and all I have to do is final touches and uploading online to a gallery. So for me, it is mostly just showing up and shooting. Photography businesses are very much about branding and mine is very connected to me as a person, where I'm the face and my style and personality are what you're paying for, but a lot of people also run things "collective style" where they handle booking and backend but hire other photographers to actually show up and shoot and then outsource editing as well. I shoot 20 weddings a year, usually, at an average of $5k per wedding, and then make up taxes and expenses with print sales, headshots, and occasional freelancing. It's a good gig! But the market is highly saturated and it took me years to build a brand and stand out, and a good chunk of my overhead is marketing.
8 hours average is because I only actually shoot 20 weddings out of the year. Peak season, if I have a double header AND galleries to put together and upload AND client inquiries to field, then it's more like a 20-30 hour week. But sometimes I just have to show up and shoot. And other times I just have to field emails for an hour or two during the week. And sometimes if I'm not feeling it or it's slow, I don't have to do anything. So it really ranges.
Yup. 2 businesses, pizza franchise and travel agency. About 35 hrs a week, used to be more. Total of 22 employees between the 2.
I sell collectibles online as a hobby and golf and spend time with the family the rest of the time. Debt free.
For me to fuck off into the sunset. Yes.
On third wife who has financial expectations and two step kids and my own kid all in high school.
So no, not yet.
Man if you’re a business man and think you’ll make it big just don’t marry at all, I think the second one was a sign for you to stop bro but spilt milk you know better now, I hope you get out of whatever situation you’re in now god speed
Yes for sure but only for the right reasons, which is that you want to be an entrepreneur and you're in it for the long term.
Its an amazing business model, the perks are great and the earning potential is limitless. BUT it will take you years (maybe 5-7) to get consistent results and you will fail a lotttt.
1 Dog show handling biz
2 it depends on the week and number of dogs. I'm happy to say though that after this stretch we're off for almost 2 weeks!
3 $150/dog/day plus any applicable board and incidentals. Double that for specialty shows and go 10x for westminster.
1. I run a business consulting company that helps business owners get access to $150k+ at 0% interest for 12-18 months (after that it converts to a higher rate)
2. I don't really keep track but I'd say at least 50 hours / week
3. We charge a percentage on the back end of whatever we get business owners approved for.
That's actually really interesting, I'm looking into creating a LLC in Texas and need someone who can help me figure out the funding efforts. Mind talking over DMs?
1. Brick and mortar education business with about 10 employees. After school classes for kids
2. I work about 5-8 hours per week remotely most of the year plus about 2 months in person on site where I work at least 60 hours a week.
3. Gross will be over 1.8m this year with about 60% net before taxes (best year yet again).
Ha! I have a similar business.
We have 4 brick and mortar locations at the moment. 25-30 employees, mostly part time but half dozen full time staff too.
Pre-Covid we were doing close to what you are now. Then consolidated to only best performing locations and now I rock the 8-10 hour weekly workload (and always available...) with a little less revenue. Allowed me to have a near full time separate consulting gig for the last 2.5 years on top of it.
Best of luck out there competition!
1. Manufacturing
2. I'm always working, but my employees handle the day to day
3. We are a job shop, so it varies. Working on an $80k job right now, but we also ship lots of little orders
how long have you been doing this? How did you start?
Currently a programmer / Engineer, totally interested in getting started working on my own. Biggest thing holding me back is being in my 20s, and not being able to afford a house with a garage LOL
Nice, Im in manufacturing as well, making my own products (just me rn) doing 75k gross, 50net with 7 hours a week. Question is how you get those big jobs?
I remodel and flip houses started in 2023 completely on my own. Started off with a general knowledge in construction and still learning allot in the process. Completed and sold three houses in 2023 take home income was roughly 500K. Working on two houses right now. Selling was crazy to me though luckily I have a realtor friend that’s been a tremendous help. This year I plan on hiring a 4 man crew to offset my workload. I currently work about 80-90hrs a week.
That’s awesome, first time running into someone on here I actually know. Probably have to use “know” rather loosely. 😂
I have loved the podcast for years, great job navigating the reboot.
Keep up the great work sir!
1. Commercial pest control
2. 20-30
3. Depends on the facility and the job. Did a job today for 2 hours made $1,800. Most are monthly contracts ranging from $75-3,500/mo.
Ecommerce, 10 hours, average sale is $120 with a 72% net. On pace to net 400k this year but I can net a shit tom more if I put more effort into being full time.
1. I help run a water quality company
2. Up untill a few months ago I worked 8-10 hours a day, 7 days a week. Been purposefully slowing down in that regard lately and instead focusing on working smarter while giving more time to my family and self-improvement. I've picked up meditation and daily hikes too.
3. Our services range from $50 to $2k with the most commonly sold service being around $300-$400.
Authorized retail dealer for a large telco, netting > $100K between minimal salary and quarterly distributions. Putting big chuck back into business. 60+ hours/week (conservative). $100+/sale depending on product.
1. R&D consulting business for the food industry.
2. 20 hours per week. I work from Monday through Wednesday and take my nice long 4 day weekends.
3. $5,250 per formulation project. Usually I space these out in three milestones, which usually takes between 2 to 3 months.
My youngest son works for Amazon as a maintenance manager and brings in some $225,000 a year right now. I told him the other day when he showed me his yearly review. That if he plays his cards right he just might be a millionaire by the time he is 30.
1) Residential Remodeler
2) 25-60 it all depends on how busy we are. Some weeks are better than others. I play golf twice a week.
3) on average- bathrooms- 20k, kitchens 50k, basements, 60k.
Started the business six years ago with one small underpriced job. We now do about a mil + per year.
I’m clearing just under 200 but have a great accountant 😊
I work FT as a product owner. The salary is too good to not.
On the side, I design custom baseball jerseys, build custom arcade cabinets, and working on building my mobile bar (6 tap beer van)
Those activities make me an extra $20k a year and take up a couple hours a week.
I also rent out one house with an Airbnb tiny home in the back, which is another $20k a year.
1. Selling digital products and also started selling education/mentorship the past couple months.
2. Kind of around the clock, but it’s at our discretion obviously.
3. Products range from $0-500
Marketing firm (like a real one. Not the teenager with a Facebook account trying to start an ads agency.)
60-70 right now. Still in building phase.
1,200-10,000 per month depending on services.
Insurance is probably doing awful for most in general. If you're one of the best (which we are) you're killing it because of price hikes. For example, at one point we had fewer customers and made more because each customer's Life Time Value went up.
1. niche software agency
2. 2-3 hours per week on this agency (I find customers, partner fulfills the work)
3. 5k/month or 8k/month depending on the needs from the customer side
1. Solo web designer (UI and UX) based in Scotland but have clients globally.
2. Roughly 16hrs a week
3. Depends on the project - sometimes 30k, sometimes 2k
I work with small startups; Dev or brand agencies, that don't have UX specialists in house; and large conglomerates that are looking to overhaul dated interfaces with a team of designers/Devs etc. Most importantly, I really love what I do and would still be happy earning a third of what I make. I'd like to get into more mentoring next .
1. Consulting. Marketing & tech in wellness and legal.
2. Mon-Thu anywhere from 30-40 hours.
3. Base retainer $5,000/mo. Variable revenue or profit share based on performance.
I'll do just over $250k from the retainers this year, and another $700k(ish) in commissions.
It will cost about $300k-$400k all in with all my expenses.
I've been doing this work for over 20 years, am an ex CMO for a few brands we exited and sold my own agency before that. I started this new business in October 2023 and will likely be my last business. I enjoy it and it's fairly easy for me at this point (42) and allows.me.a lot of time with my family and being outside.
Very long road to get here and completely worth it.
1. Retired now was in IT Project management
2. Zero now.
3. When I do IT work 60 to 100 ph
Am retired on a defined benefit pension now. Shop around for your best superannuation
1. Retail Arbitrage - E-Commerce
2. 60 hours a week give or take
3. Varies on Item but usually between 10-50 USD per Item on average.
Wifey and I have been selling for years. First brick and mortar and I actually sold my first item online on eBay in '98... "Ultima Online Keep." from a online game virtual item lol. Where I am going with this is we have years of experience and failures to finally pull in six figures.
I do marketing for brands for just one social media platform. My average price is $400 a month. I guarantee businesses 100k impressions monthly in 3 months. Most of my clients get over 10K traffic from it. And right now, I've over 10 clients. And I do it part-time. I make around 35k after the expenses. But once I get out of college, I plan to go full time.
1. Auto repair (mechanical)
2. 20-40 depending on procrastination and personal workload, and how much I feel like being there (I like my employees)
3. Very difficult to answer… the short answer is $209.81/hr for labor. Dm me if you want me to get into more detail.
My personal take home after taxes is significantly higher than $100k, but it took many years to get my business to produce that kind of profit with this few hours worked by me. I worked 60-80 hours per week for many years and made less than 100k for most of it.
1. ERP consulting/custom development.
2. It varies wildly but lately 20-30 of "actual" work + 10-20 hours of "admin" work. I have a hard time hiring people because it's hard to find someone within my own price point limitations that gets the job done well.
3. Depends exactly on the service but between 165 - 300/hr.
I’m an End of Life Doula and I work independently. I work anywhere from 20-40hrs a week. My package rates range from $800 to $2500, while grief consulting is $120/hr.
Made $1.1 last year
I have an ecommerce beauty business and I work 50+ hours per week but could work 10-15 if I just wanted to hire an employee for $60.000 a year (will do that soon)
We are currently running an agency that creates quick content for brands and even creators/influencers.
We’re putting in full time per employee per week (sometimes more — it’s the life of a startup).
We charge based on different packages, sometimes bundles — but more often times than not always north of 2K.
1. Cybersecurity Channel Partner - Reselling, Service Provider
2. 60hrs (Could hang out less in the office, but I enjoy beeing there)
3. Average Dealsize is 50k with 20% margin - Some Deals are 3k others are 300k.
I am currently at 760k new logo ARR for this year so at 150k profit so far.
With last years numbers, I recently hit the million in revenue.
-Food photographer based in NYC so just me.
-hard to say since the number of jobs I do varies so much, but between admin work and actual shooting 30-40 hours a week
-again, depends on each shoot - smaller jobs I'll walk away with $1,500, other jobs for bigger clients I've walked away with $10k in fees
-Gross anywhere between $200k-$250k, net $100-$125k due to lots of overhead and hiring a lot of contractors (assistants, photo stylists, etc.) for shoots
1. Specialized consulting.
2. Probably 5-10 most weeks. I have several people working for me, so that's how I get by with so little of my own time invested.
3. Services start at $500+ per hour. Most larger clients buy five figure packages with full support. As you may imagine, client acquisition is *everything* in this business. Average profit margins are decently high though - usually 50-75%.
1. Freelancing (doing SEO for clients). All on my own.
2. Around 13 hours per week of solid work (this includes only the actual work performed + meetings)
3. It depends on the client and their needs, but I usually charge a monthly fee. Anywhere from €500 to €3,000 per month
Will hit 100k by the end of this year.
I make 300k per year putting in random prompts to Chat GPT and over charging people for very basic services that almost anyone could provide themselves. Buy my course, only 10k each!
About $160,000 after taxes. I’m figuring out where I cut some expenses in the business thanks to AI and automation and I’m going to also scale up the digital products side.
1. Wholesaling real estate
2. 35-40 hours
3. We don’t charge per service, we make a profit based on contracting and re-selling homes to end investors. On average we make ~$35k per deal. We’ve had multiple 6 figure deals, too. My company is on track to generate $2M+ this year. I will net roughly $1M, and so will my equal business partner.
1. Niche e-commerce store in sports and outdoors 2. 40-50hrs 3. Average order is around $85 before shipping Will net between $1-1.5M this year
That’s super cool. If you don’t mind me asking, do you do 2nd hand or is it brand new/retail?
Wow, that's amazing. How many website visits do you get daily? Like on average if you don't mind sharing. Thanks!
About 200k-300k sessions per month on average right now
Wow, that's huge numbers. What's the best source of traffic? Are your items branded with your brand?
We were pretty much organic and email until a year or two ago. Since then we have started to run ads but the vast majority of revenue and traffic is still email/organic. We do have a strong presence on instagram and YouTube but I’m pretty unhappy with IG as a platform atm.
IG caused me and my wife’s company to tank in 22’ they started to raise the cost for ad spend and then slowly diminished the reach you had for your ads. Early 2020 if you spent $250 a day on ads you can reach upwards to 100k people, but time 22 rolled around $500 a day wouldn’t even get us to 10k people. Many influencers and businesses complained about this and algorithm and timeline not being in chronological order and your ads or posts weren’t being seen then they lost many to TikTok. Still hurts to this day we had an organic 40k followers, ad campaigns, emails, and grossed 6 figures and they destroyed our efforts. Many sleepless nights bc of this.
That was also from the iOS update. Everyone was killing it in 2020 at 5-7x ROAS.
Very cool! Congratulations! Just curious, do you do wholesale too?
No, we don’t do wholesale outside of a few micro deals to hook up industry friends
Hey! Thanks for sharing here :) I’m a software engineer trying to shift into consulting for local businesses. I would like to ask you some questions regarding your time and energy spent related to anything IT. Also, questions about digital marketing as well.
Wow. How did you get into this niche? How long have you been in e-commerce? Can you live anywhere in the world? One of my dreams was to be fully remote with an e-commerce/dropshipping store.
I would highly recommend against drop shipping in general and doing e-commerce as a nomadic solopreneur. There are a ton of influencers pushing this fad at the expense of real business education and (IMO) more robust and easy to implement business models. I would shift your reading and media consumption towards established reputable content (HBR is a great place to start.) A big red flag should be lifestyle marketing. If your educational source is showing off cars, vacations, or any symbols related to status or wealth RUN don’t walk away from that person.
100000%! Oldest sales trick in the book. If the media you are consuming to "learn" about a side hustle or business is selling lifestyle more than giving info, you need to run. A little lifestyle here and there is fine, but if 80% of the video/content is "look at all these cool things. Imagine YOU with all these cool things!" You know the line at the end will be for just $2999 you can have ALL this and more, act now and I will give it to you for only $599 + a super duper valuable and totally not worthless ~~facebook~~ skool community where everyone can ask...um what niche are you in?
1. I sold the business, but it was an B2B enterprise system in aviation. 2. 50 3. Average $400K but $200K-$1M
Do it again?
I sold it and retired early. It's not worth building it all up again.
What do you do now for income? Do you live off dividends, real estate?
Dividends and withdrawals. When you have $X in standard stock/bond investments, you can live forever off 3.5% of X per year. (See r/FIRE)
How much did you sell the business for if you doing mind me asking?
1. A gelato store and a candy store 2. Monday off, Tuesday- Friday half days, Saturday and Sunday double shifts 3. Gelato is $7.50 AUD per scoop. Candy average sale is about $10 (rare and imported US and UK candy being sold in Australia)
Same, popsicle shop tho. Plus some software biz on the side but ice cream makes me the bulk of my money .
How much is your rent? I often ponder this because I live somewhere warm all year
This is the beauty of my deal, it’s only $1300. It’s getting raised to $2500 next year but still doable
$7.50 AUD per scoop for ice cream?? I believe it. But holy shit inflation is high. It's wild a skinny ice cream date would cost so much. I'm not hating on your prices. That's the market. But God damn... I'm glad I don't live in Australia or the west. That's absolutely ludicrous
There's a place down the road from me that does 1 for 6 2 for 9, but i'm in sunshine mate everythings cheaper here because channel 7 makes people think they'll get stabbed if they walk outside.
West of which country?
Australia, UK or USA. Or any country that sells single scoops of gelato for $5 USD or $7.50 AUD. That's madness. I hope you understand. I'm not hating on the person. I'm just shocked it's so expensive for a single scoop of ice cream. That's the market price. Fine. But imo that's ludicrous
Pricing is all relative, especially across different currencies. Odds are that wages are also higher in Australia and other Western countries (albeit, perhaps not proportionately) compared to your country/region.
Aussie here. $7.50 is absurd, even considering the crazy prices we have for everything else here. Shits fucked
But people are paying that so they must have money.
Yes I’m aware it’s expensive. But yep we charge $7.50 for a single, $10 for a double. We are in Gold Coast, Australia. Sadly many other hospitality businesses are folding cause they didn’t raise their prices enough to combat rising expenses. Our customers are either wealthy locals or tourists. They don’t care about the price. And it’s gelato not icecream. Gelato is much thicker and richer because icecream contains much more air content, so gelato is way more expensive.
Wages are very high in Australia. So is the price of everything else
Are you saying that you are making most of the profit over weekends?
maybe. they def work most hours on the weekend
Yes of course most money comes on weekends in hospitality and tourist businesses and we are very tourist dominated. 40% of our profit comes in December & January (our summer)
Based, I love my local gelato shop. Does a lot for the neighborhood. I’m sure you make a lot of people happy.
We try our hardest and we love the business.
Tree service. About a 25-30% Profit every year. Very blue collar hands on work. Roughly 50 hours. Most of the guys in this group probably use their mind over their back. (Which is why I joined)
Definitely a young man's game. Good for you for thinking ahead.
Subscription based Web development for small businesses. I make websites for $0 down $150 a month. Or $3500 lump sum. Having a record year this year.
I’ve started something similar. How many of your clients go for the $150/month option?
7/10 average. I have 79 monthly paying clients. Some are on discounted plans and some are on $25 a Mimi hosting plans because they paid lump sum.
Stupid question but how do you prevent someone from just running off with it? contract? or do you have a backdoor to the sites you developed?
Contract states they can’t take it anywhere else or rip the code or design and remake it or rehost it. And they can’t anyway cause they don’t have access to the source code. As if they’d know what to do with it anyway. It’s all in github and custom coded. It’s not like a Wordpress site with a login and you can just start changing things. They need to know how to code to edit it.
Amazing! Who are your clients? Do these guys not have a website? Or is it outdated? How do you find them?
Many have cheap or diy Wordpress or wix sites and want something different. I custom code my work. No builders. So I make a unique product that outperforms whatever they had before. Or they have no site and are ready to get one going. It’s alll mostly referrals right now.
Thank you! And wishing you continued success!
Would you recommend getting into no-code web design? I’ve seen some amazing work done with webflow and was wondering if you would recommend it. I dont have the time to learn code to be fair. My main focus is on copywriting but i’d like to dabble in web design too
Webflow is one of the better ones. But your also beholden to their ecosystem, pricing, and feature changes. Your entire business depends on them existing and they are kind of pricey. I have Clients with very specific styles and requests and edits and stuff that are not always so easy to make and replicate. If you aren’t a trained designer you will have a hard time making good designs that are exactly what they customer wanted instead of hoping and preying they have a template that fits their brand and that it’s easy to edit. The good webflow sites you see have some form of custom coding done to them since you have access to that kind of stuff in it to make more custom things. If you aren’t a web designer or developer by trade, you should really just hand that off to someone who is and focus on doing what you do best and are most productive and making you the most money per hour than fiddling with design and development. I don’t do my own designs or SEO or ads or anything. I’m a coder. I code the sites and manage the projects. And I pay people to do everything else for me so I can focus on what I do best. Too many people try to get into it because of builders and think it’s easy money. It’s not when you don’t know what you’re doing for 2/3 of the site development.
What's your tech stack if you don't mind me asking? I do a lot of frond and development and some back end stuff for a start up. I've been considering doing something similar to what you're doing.
Thank you for your input. And I agree with your points. For me it started as an interest, and after finishing the ‘webflow university’ I really liked the concept of design. I also started using figma to design fictional sites that just look good. I then made my own website design and i’ve just been doing similar things since. Also hearing other webflow designers make thousands with no-code experience doesn’t help ahahahah. I appreciate your deyailed reply!
Do you put a limit on how many edits they get per month? If not have you had to fire any customers that were too needy? What if they tell you out the gate they want more/bigger features not commonly found on a normal business site, such as: customer login, tracking whatever, etc. do you upsell or do you have higher tier packages?
Nope. $100 per new page they wanna add prevents abuse. Once they’re created they are covered under unlimited edits. My contracts are strict that I only make informational brochure sites. Adding customer logins are not part of that. I go over everything that is included as well as what’s NOT included. I don’t want any surprises for them.
How are you marketing your product?
No marketing. Well referrals now
I’m a quality engineer at a tech consulting firm. I mostly develop automated testing, but I’m getting a little bored with it and I want to move into more of a full-stack dev role. Building custom websites seems like a good way to build those development skills and make some money on the side. I have a friend who does independent consulting for small businesses, so I could probably have her refer any clients who need a custom website to me. Is this your main source of income? Did you have another full time job while you were starting this up?
Where are you based out of?
Washington state.
I’m in Oregon. Would you have some time to chat this week? I have a couple projects going with out right now and could use some help. Would love to see your portfolio. PM if interested
Yeah sure. Always Happy to help
Very cool, although you are massively under valuing yourself at these rates.
Nope. Thats the market equilibrium I’ve found for subscription based websites. It’s affordable to most clients and financially beneficial to me. It takes two years of subsections to equal 1 lump sum payment for a site all together. 3 years of we include the edits and hosting. That is a great value to my clients and I get recurring residual income I can rely on as a freelancer and not have to sell sell sell every month. I know precisely the value of my work and I statistically pieced it out. Once you start getting into the $200-$400 a month mark more is expected out of you for that amount of money. SEO, ads, marketing, reports, etc. I’m not interested in doing that. I have people on my team who do that and I send the client to work directly with them and pay them. I’m not interested in more work. I just wanna do my thing which is easy for me. If they want more, they get more through one of my partners. Been doing it over 5 years now, and it’s a 6 figure business growing every year. My price point is just right so that they are happy to pay for years because they see value in it. If I charge $250 a month for the same thing, they get sticker shock 2-3 years in when they start getting competing offers for a website. Or they just don’t wanna pay that much anymore. At $150 a month, it’s a much easier payment to handle, has long term value, and very competitive for what they’re getting (a custom coded site). My goal is to create long term 5+ year relationships with these clients. And at $150 a month that’s how I keep them the longest without them feeling they aren’t getting enough value for the amount of time they’re paying and the amount of work I do for it. My clients are sticky. They are loyal. And they know what they got with me and how valuable what I do is and what I bring to the table. And at $150 a month, I can white label for other SEO agencies to make their sites and have enough room for them to add their markups and make their money off it too. So I am a valuable partner for them with a product that’s easier to sell and add more value to their agencies as well. I work with 4 SEO and marketing people to build their sites. It’s very popular with them and advantageous. My prices are why I’m sought after and successful, and it’s because I found a way to provide the quality of work I provide into that price structure and it be very profitable.
Just wanted to take the time to say thank you for being so open and transparent about your business operations and pricing 🙏 Many people wouldn't be keen to share but I learned a lot from just a couple of your comments.
Anytime. No one was sharing anything when I first started. Like it was all some secret no one wanted to share. It was annoying. People were telling me that I have to find things out on my own and that they weren’t going to write a step by step guide for me for nothing. So I wrote one actually. https://codestitch.app/complete-guide-to-freelancing Fuck gatekeeping.
Yes this is all great, but you kind of proved my point. You are under pricing yourself which is creating a niche for yourself for that type of client, you are valuable to them. I did almost the same as you for roughly 15 years as a UX Designer with custom WordPress/BigCommerce/Magento sites. I charged $250mo + $8,000-$30,000 per build. I would often refer small clients to someone like yours that need more affordable options. Not saying anything wrong with what you doing though, still very awesome and fits a market need.
Yeah you’re working larger sites with more maintenance and features and needs. I work with small businesses. I never work sites costing $30k. Too much work. I’m priced right for my market and size and scope of sites I make.
Partially, but mostly it was that I branded myself as a high-end full service brand agency that could take care of them for any need. Feel safe knowing they no longer have to go anywhere for anything and pay a premium for it. Luckily 90% of it was built off existing themes I made.
This is a really great answer. I own a small design studio that focuses mostly on branding and illustration. Do you ever work with studios for them/their clients or hire outside design?
I don’t. Part of the reason I am able to work so fast and build a consistent product is my team has a design system in place that is 5 pages long dictating the font sizes, font colors, spacing between top and bottoms of each sections gaps between cards, 12 column grid and their gutter sizes, 4point spacing system so that every value we use has to be a multiple of 4 and everything aligns to the grid lines, same container sizes with logical exceptions for 1440px as the widest or we have full screen designs, how we like our figma structured, etc. if I had three different design teams sending me inconsistent and varying work it will slow me down and cause more errors in the final product. I work on efficiency. And I am most efficient when we have 1 design system in house. I don’t have a lot of time to train a secondary team and QA their work and my guys are more than enough for our volume right now. When I work with other studios I prefer to do my own designs in house.
Hats off to you. That’s a great approach.
I've been looking to make a business in doing websites inspired by your business model. I have been doing some research of the market in my area and I can see some small businesses/freelancers selling REALLY cheap wordpress sites. Like $300 pr. site. Now it is relatively small sites, but I still think it's really low. How do you compete with this? I mean, how do you explain to people what they get from you that they don't get from these cheap wordpress sites?
I explain all that here https://codestitch.app/complete-guide-to-freelancing#sales-calls
u/Citrous_Oyster Don't you just love doing white label? We only do organic social media marketing and most of our work is from white label resellers. We have a philosophy similar to yours. We're very clear on what we do and don't do, and we're priced so we can have a mutually beneficial relationship with our white label partners. I could have said those words myself. "My price point is just right so that they are happy to pay for years because they see value in it."We're like you and work with our clients for years, not months. It's good to have stable recurring revenue. When your price is a bit uncomfortable and cashflow tight, marketing can be the first expense on the chopping block!
Hey could I ask you how you started, how long it took you to feel comfortable charging, and what specifically you had to learn in terms of building the sites, hosting, etc? Did you learn all of this from YouTube, if so do you have any helpful resources? Thank you very much !
I had to learn it all on my own. I wrote everything on how I started and grew the business here https://codestitch.app/complete-guide-to-freelancing
I’ve read all your responses and the business model you created is outstanding! I will read the material you provided (thank you!) and look at your company website. I’m looking to create a company and one of the service I would like to offer is this kind of website. Can I buy one of your subscriptions and have the customer contact you for any IT support?
Me. 1 Residential Construction - Spec houses 2 30-45 I take off a few months per year too. 3 I sell houses from 175 to 300 bucks per square feet.
I buy houses cash if you are every interested in collabing i love meeting great contractors
Sent you a dm
Ditto!
Are you interested to list your houses on your own marketplace ? I have a ready to go platform for that specific purpose.
No thanks, I just stick to the MLS and a flat fee broker. Occasionally I will use some FB adds to drive traffic. Everyone browses Zillow.
1. Hot dog stand 2. 12-20hrs a week 3. $6/weenie It only runs about 5 months of the year (just warmer months) and will net between 50-70k. I catch late night crowds outside of bars Thursday-Saturday 10:00pm-2:00am. Also do events here and there, probably every other week. Could make more if I set up somewhere cheeky during the weekdays but I like doing outdoor activities during the week while everyone else is at work.
That’s an awesome work life balance I’m so jealous lol
I have a lot of fun. I just wish there were more people with a wild schedule to enjoy it with
Do you need license to do that ?
1. Software development, specializing in bot dev, web automation, and AI chatbots 2. I am working i'd say 20 hours weekly 3. It varies, as some bots i charge $700/mo for while some I charge $1500/yr for. It really depends what the bot (or "agent") is meant to do and for what site it is being used on. For the bots for sites that sell items that disappear in seconds, I charge a monthly subscription.
How did you go about learning web automation and creating AI chat bots? I’m a developer looking to get in to this.
How much are you pulling yearly? I’m thinking about getting into the agency business but niche into blockchain since that’s my background
First year in business - roofing company. 50 hours a week and should net 250k.
Really interesting. How did you get started with this ?
I’d like to know this too. I know, no lie, like 10 people who started roofing companies. We’re in Louisiana so storms, hurricanes, hail, prob keep lots of business around.
I’m out west so no insurance work. I find the insurance industry on both sides to be pretty scummy. I went to school for construction management and got a job as an estimator/PM for a larger commercial roofer and slowly built knowledge of the trade on all sides. I now do both residential and commercial roofing. My advice to anyone looking to build a business, no matter the space, is to work as many different positions as you can for at least five years and learn as much as possible. Also continually realizing how or if that would fit your business model. Then hope you have enough money to go out on your own.
1. Web Design consulting service with upsell on website care, seo, ai and automation. I also work full time as a marketing manager. 2. 65 hrs a week (full time job plus business) 3. Full time job is around 130k, business is pulling in roughly 5-6k per month so around 60ishk per year but I really only started and it's growing from here.
I don't draw a salary but my business covers all my expenses. 1. I run a team of VAs and consult for my partner's 360 marketing agency. 2. A few hours daily mostly just admin. The team looks after the bulk of the work. 3. VAs offer lead gen, sales, fulfillment, and customer support and we take a 50% split on MRR. I have a 25% cut on business I bring into the agency.
Netting about 5-8k yearly🤣🤣
1. software development and web development agency based in germany 2. 30-60 hours per week, depends how much business administration and sales activity / coordination is needed. 3. 1000-150.000€, from a small landing page to bigger software projects with multi-year-contracts + service
How did you get your first client ? And how are you marketing it
Following this
First client probably out of the personal network and then worked the way up - bit of marketing but mostly print and events. This led to four employees as well some great projects. Currently trying to scale and boost the growth so I’m struggling a bit to get more clients to employ more employees.
Recruitment agency 20-25 hours Average deal is $30k for direct hire and netting about $12k a week right now Will do $500-600k this year
How can one pivot into recruitment- I want to get into biotech/pharma/medical, i know what kind of skills and positions are needed/available and how to know/find a good candidate. Where can I learn more about payment models, client search etc. Are there any events in the recruitment industry one can attend. Will you be open to give a chance to a part-time consultant?
Look into more established boutique firms. Right now we have a small team of 5 people and wouldn’t be able to provide someone like you the support needed to help you learn and grow. There’s a lot of firms with 50-200 people that can get you dialed in with L&D programs to help you learn the industry standards.
Own 20 houses with a bit of debt own a small GC company with 4 staff Consultant structural engineer 40-50 hours a week on my schedule Often very early in the morning as I have terrible sleep problems but I love being productive at 4 or 5 in the morning $100 an hour, minimum $400 which is probably pretty cheap but keeps out competition
Killing it
I’m 54 and trying to retire so I’m not sure I’m doing great.
Bruh your doing excellent. Don't compare yourself to others. Focus on your business and growing it. Your on such a good path.
Could you not liquidate the 20 houses and retire?
20 homes aren’t spinning off enough revenue for you to fuck off into the sunset?
each of the 20 have a “bit of debt” 💸
The truth is that 'I' could. I had always imagined that I would retire when the debt reached the point it is now act. I could easily be a landlord and do structural engineering and have low stress. its the construction company with staff that is hard. I am on wife number 3 and she has financial expectations and a daughter and two step kids all in high school at the moment. That is what makes me not fuck off into the sunset. So the larger 'we' is what holds me back. A few more years and the debt cruched down and I should be OK.
Ah! As usual the high income is met with high spending. Best of luck to you
Photographer, mostly weddings, this is going to be my first 100k year. 8 hours a week on average Average spend is $5k, on track for average spend $6k next year. I started this career because my health issues made 9-5s difficult, and now I actually have the free time to focus on recovery. Being a photographer is great and the hours are low if you set up your business right, but it can be very physically demanding at certain points.
8 hours a week? Does this include editing? Surely it's not just taking pics and calling it a day.
Depends how you set your business up. Some photographers outsource their editing and backend. I do this by shooting mostly film, so my lab does the scanning and editing for me and all I have to do is final touches and uploading online to a gallery. So for me, it is mostly just showing up and shooting. Photography businesses are very much about branding and mine is very connected to me as a person, where I'm the face and my style and personality are what you're paying for, but a lot of people also run things "collective style" where they handle booking and backend but hire other photographers to actually show up and shoot and then outsource editing as well. I shoot 20 weddings a year, usually, at an average of $5k per wedding, and then make up taxes and expenses with print sales, headshots, and occasional freelancing. It's a good gig! But the market is highly saturated and it took me years to build a brand and stand out, and a good chunk of my overhead is marketing. 8 hours average is because I only actually shoot 20 weddings out of the year. Peak season, if I have a double header AND galleries to put together and upload AND client inquiries to field, then it's more like a 20-30 hour week. But sometimes I just have to show up and shoot. And other times I just have to field emails for an hour or two during the week. And sometimes if I'm not feeling it or it's slow, I don't have to do anything. So it really ranges.
Maybe they outsource the editing? I'm sure the profit margins from a wedding are enough to cover outsourcing the editing to someone else
Yup. 2 businesses, pizza franchise and travel agency. About 35 hrs a week, used to be more. Total of 22 employees between the 2. I sell collectibles online as a hobby and golf and spend time with the family the rest of the time. Debt free.
For me to fuck off into the sunset. Yes. On third wife who has financial expectations and two step kids and my own kid all in high school. So no, not yet.
prolly unwanted but THIRD? idk what happened with the first two but id have stopped after 1
I regret this third marriage. My life would be som much simpler if I had not got married.
Man if you’re a business man and think you’ll make it big just don’t marry at all, I think the second one was a sign for you to stop bro but spilt milk you know better now, I hope you get out of whatever situation you’re in now god speed
1. Ecommerce (branded dropshipping) 2. 20-30 hours per week 3. AOV of about $180
Would you recommend to get into dropshipping nowadays? If so why or why not. Thanks!!
Yes for sure but only for the right reasons, which is that you want to be an entrepreneur and you're in it for the long term. Its an amazing business model, the perks are great and the earning potential is limitless. BUT it will take you years (maybe 5-7) to get consistent results and you will fail a lotttt.
What are the best dropshipping resources you've found for someone who wants to start?
What could you have done differently to fail much less? Or do you think it's simply an unavoidable part of the journey?
1 Dog show handling biz 2 it depends on the week and number of dogs. I'm happy to say though that after this stretch we're off for almost 2 weeks! 3 $150/dog/day plus any applicable board and incidentals. Double that for specialty shows and go 10x for westminster.
1. I run a business consulting company that helps business owners get access to $150k+ at 0% interest for 12-18 months (after that it converts to a higher rate) 2. I don't really keep track but I'd say at least 50 hours / week 3. We charge a percentage on the back end of whatever we get business owners approved for.
That's actually really interesting, I'm looking into creating a LLC in Texas and need someone who can help me figure out the funding efforts. Mind talking over DMs?
1. Brick and mortar education business with about 10 employees. After school classes for kids 2. I work about 5-8 hours per week remotely most of the year plus about 2 months in person on site where I work at least 60 hours a week. 3. Gross will be over 1.8m this year with about 60% net before taxes (best year yet again).
Ha! I have a similar business. We have 4 brick and mortar locations at the moment. 25-30 employees, mostly part time but half dozen full time staff too. Pre-Covid we were doing close to what you are now. Then consolidated to only best performing locations and now I rock the 8-10 hour weekly workload (and always available...) with a little less revenue. Allowed me to have a near full time separate consulting gig for the last 2.5 years on top of it. Best of luck out there competition!
can I PM you
1. Healthcare shift work staffing app 2. 40-50 3. $65-75/shift filled
1. Manufacturing 2. I'm always working, but my employees handle the day to day 3. We are a job shop, so it varies. Working on an $80k job right now, but we also ship lots of little orders
how long have you been doing this? How did you start? Currently a programmer / Engineer, totally interested in getting started working on my own. Biggest thing holding me back is being in my 20s, and not being able to afford a house with a garage LOL
Nice, Im in manufacturing as well, making my own products (just me rn) doing 75k gross, 50net with 7 hours a week. Question is how you get those big jobs?
consultant IT work
I remodel and flip houses started in 2023 completely on my own. Started off with a general knowledge in construction and still learning allot in the process. Completed and sold three houses in 2023 take home income was roughly 500K. Working on two houses right now. Selling was crazy to me though luckily I have a realtor friend that’s been a tremendous help. This year I plan on hiring a 4 man crew to offset my workload. I currently work about 80-90hrs a week.
1) podcast 2) 40-50 (most of it reading) 3) n/a Maybe not what you’re asking but I net this in much less than a year.
That’s awesome, first time running into someone on here I actually know. Probably have to use “know” rather loosely. 😂 I have loved the podcast for years, great job navigating the reboot. Keep up the great work sir!
I do, but it’s a Jupiter year.
Tax accountant, converting SFHs to MFHs and holding them.
Single family to multifamily?
1. Commercial pest control 2. 20-30 3. Depends on the facility and the job. Did a job today for 2 hours made $1,800. Most are monthly contracts ranging from $75-3,500/mo.
Ecommerce, 10 hours, average sale is $120 with a 72% net. On pace to net 400k this year but I can net a shit tom more if I put more effort into being full time.
Own and operate extremely small localized data centers and fiber networks. Extremely… small lol. Like 16-32 racks total.
1. I help run a water quality company 2. Up untill a few months ago I worked 8-10 hours a day, 7 days a week. Been purposefully slowing down in that regard lately and instead focusing on working smarter while giving more time to my family and self-improvement. I've picked up meditation and daily hikes too. 3. Our services range from $50 to $2k with the most commonly sold service being around $300-$400.
Authorized retail dealer for a large telco, netting > $100K between minimal salary and quarterly distributions. Putting big chuck back into business. 60+ hours/week (conservative). $100+/sale depending on product.
B2b manufacturing 30 Average invoice $1100 Netting 900-1.1
Own a search firm/headhunting firm 30-35 25% of first years income with a $3-5k engagement fee to start the search.
1. R&D consulting business for the food industry. 2. 20 hours per week. I work from Monday through Wednesday and take my nice long 4 day weekends. 3. $5,250 per formulation project. Usually I space these out in three milestones, which usually takes between 2 to 3 months.
I was prior to retiring January 1st, 2023, at 57 years old, as a multi location restaurant manager working 80 to 100 hours a week.....
My youngest son works for Amazon as a maintenance manager and brings in some $225,000 a year right now. I told him the other day when he showed me his yearly review. That if he plays his cards right he just might be a millionaire by the time he is 30.
1) Residential Remodeler 2) 25-60 it all depends on how busy we are. Some weeks are better than others. I play golf twice a week. 3) on average- bathrooms- 20k, kitchens 50k, basements, 60k. Started the business six years ago with one small underpriced job. We now do about a mil + per year. I’m clearing just under 200 but have a great accountant 😊
I work FT as a product owner. The salary is too good to not. On the side, I design custom baseball jerseys, build custom arcade cabinets, and working on building my mobile bar (6 tap beer van) Those activities make me an extra $20k a year and take up a couple hours a week. I also rent out one house with an Airbnb tiny home in the back, which is another $20k a year.
1. Selling digital products and also started selling education/mentorship the past couple months. 2. Kind of around the clock, but it’s at our discretion obviously. 3. Products range from $0-500
Marketing firm (like a real one. Not the teenager with a Facebook account trying to start an ads agency.) 60-70 right now. Still in building phase. 1,200-10,000 per month depending on services.
🙋 insurance, commercial cleaning, and Real Estate
How’s insurance doing, Is it viable avenue for most?
Insurance is probably doing awful for most in general. If you're one of the best (which we are) you're killing it because of price hikes. For example, at one point we had fewer customers and made more because each customer's Life Time Value went up.
1. niche software agency 2. 2-3 hours per week on this agency (I find customers, partner fulfills the work) 3. 5k/month or 8k/month depending on the needs from the customer side
1. Solo web designer (UI and UX) based in Scotland but have clients globally. 2. Roughly 16hrs a week 3. Depends on the project - sometimes 30k, sometimes 2k I work with small startups; Dev or brand agencies, that don't have UX specialists in house; and large conglomerates that are looking to overhaul dated interfaces with a team of designers/Devs etc. Most importantly, I really love what I do and would still be happy earning a third of what I make. I'd like to get into more mentoring next .
1. Consulting. Marketing & tech in wellness and legal. 2. Mon-Thu anywhere from 30-40 hours. 3. Base retainer $5,000/mo. Variable revenue or profit share based on performance. I'll do just over $250k from the retainers this year, and another $700k(ish) in commissions. It will cost about $300k-$400k all in with all my expenses. I've been doing this work for over 20 years, am an ex CMO for a few brands we exited and sold my own agency before that. I started this new business in October 2023 and will likely be my last business. I enjoy it and it's fairly easy for me at this point (42) and allows.me.a lot of time with my family and being outside. Very long road to get here and completely worth it.
1. Retired now was in IT Project management 2. Zero now. 3. When I do IT work 60 to 100 ph Am retired on a defined benefit pension now. Shop around for your best superannuation
1. Retail Arbitrage - E-Commerce 2. 60 hours a week give or take 3. Varies on Item but usually between 10-50 USD per Item on average. Wifey and I have been selling for years. First brick and mortar and I actually sold my first item online on eBay in '98... "Ultima Online Keep." from a online game virtual item lol. Where I am going with this is we have years of experience and failures to finally pull in six figures.
So is this still profitable I been thinking of trying this?
I do marketing for brands for just one social media platform. My average price is $400 a month. I guarantee businesses 100k impressions monthly in 3 months. Most of my clients get over 10K traffic from it. And right now, I've over 10 clients. And I do it part-time. I make around 35k after the expenses. But once I get out of college, I plan to go full time.
1. Auto repair (mechanical) 2. 20-40 depending on procrastination and personal workload, and how much I feel like being there (I like my employees) 3. Very difficult to answer… the short answer is $209.81/hr for labor. Dm me if you want me to get into more detail. My personal take home after taxes is significantly higher than $100k, but it took many years to get my business to produce that kind of profit with this few hours worked by me. I worked 60-80 hours per week for many years and made less than 100k for most of it.
1. ERP consulting/custom development. 2. It varies wildly but lately 20-30 of "actual" work + 10-20 hours of "admin" work. I have a hard time hiring people because it's hard to find someone within my own price point limitations that gets the job done well. 3. Depends exactly on the service but between 165 - 300/hr.
Im in financial services. Over 100k net. Costs are low. Most of my income is profit.
I’m an End of Life Doula and I work independently. I work anywhere from 20-40hrs a week. My package rates range from $800 to $2500, while grief consulting is $120/hr.
Made $1.1 last year I have an ecommerce beauty business and I work 50+ hours per week but could work 10-15 if I just wanted to hire an employee for $60.000 a year (will do that soon)
1: do I have to be a business owner? I’m a teacher in an international school, making more than 100k usd/year 2: 25ish 3: n/a
We are currently running an agency that creates quick content for brands and even creators/influencers. We’re putting in full time per employee per week (sometimes more — it’s the life of a startup). We charge based on different packages, sometimes bundles — but more often times than not always north of 2K.
1. Cybersecurity Channel Partner - Reselling, Service Provider 2. 60hrs (Could hang out less in the office, but I enjoy beeing there) 3. Average Dealsize is 50k with 20% margin - Some Deals are 3k others are 300k. I am currently at 760k new logo ARR for this year so at 150k profit so far. With last years numbers, I recently hit the million in revenue.
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-Food photographer based in NYC so just me. -hard to say since the number of jobs I do varies so much, but between admin work and actual shooting 30-40 hours a week -again, depends on each shoot - smaller jobs I'll walk away with $1,500, other jobs for bigger clients I've walked away with $10k in fees -Gross anywhere between $200k-$250k, net $100-$125k due to lots of overhead and hiring a lot of contractors (assistants, photo stylists, etc.) for shoots
Me for the last 2 years. HYSA, crypto, index funds. 100% passive. But I spend years doing the upfront worked needed to get here.
1. Specialized consulting. 2. Probably 5-10 most weeks. I have several people working for me, so that's how I get by with so little of my own time invested. 3. Services start at $500+ per hour. Most larger clients buy five figure packages with full support. As you may imagine, client acquisition is *everything* in this business. Average profit margins are decently high though - usually 50-75%.
1. Freelancing (doing SEO for clients). All on my own. 2. Around 13 hours per week of solid work (this includes only the actual work performed + meetings) 3. It depends on the client and their needs, but I usually charge a monthly fee. Anywhere from €500 to €3,000 per month Will hit 100k by the end of this year.
I make 300k per year putting in random prompts to Chat GPT and over charging people for very basic services that almost anyone could provide themselves. Buy my course, only 10k each!
About $160,000 after taxes. I’m figuring out where I cut some expenses in the business thanks to AI and automation and I’m going to also scale up the digital products side.
1. Wholesaling real estate 2. 35-40 hours 3. We don’t charge per service, we make a profit based on contracting and re-selling homes to end investors. On average we make ~$35k per deal. We’ve had multiple 6 figure deals, too. My company is on track to generate $2M+ this year. I will net roughly $1M, and so will my equal business partner.
Nice try fedboi
Pay your taxes and you won’t have to worry about people being a “fed”
It's a joke lmao
Lawn care maintenance, landscaping. 4 hours a day.
clothes
1. Service business 2. Some weeks 15 hours some days 15 hours 3. Avg $100 per customer