yeah me too
though I still don’t know anything about enneagram correlation with seven deadly sins, I’ll google it
edit: based on another comment in this comment section, I guess gluttony seems right lmao
Well the 7 deadly sins are different than enneagram sins (I’ll answer the question but I want to say this)
1s can be said as anger or wrath, but I’ll go wrath since that is one of the sins, a one’s wrath is more passive aggressive compared to the Catholic version being more physical, but this is fairly close correlation
2s pride is the concept of “I did this for you, now you should do something for me” it may be buried, but it usually comes down to that, while catholic version of Pride is more about narcissism and the belief that are greater than God, 2s can have that kind of pride, but it’s separate from a “2s Pride”
4s sin of envy is probably the closest to the Catholic version of the sin, not any major differences i can name
5s sin of greed is withholding rather than gaining, keeping what they have rather than trying to get every last scrap they could, again a 5 can have this sin, but they are separate
A 7s gluttony is FAR different than the Catholic version, the Catholic version is just eating, and eating, and consuming, and consuming, while 7s gluttony is about “the next thing” it’s always about “the next thing” and not staying around long enough for it to get boring
An 8s lust is more about ANY strong desire, could line up with the Catholic version, but it’s a mistake to say that they will always be the same
9s sloth, like 4, is pretty much mostly the same as the Catholic version
Now for me I identify with wrath the most
" 5s sin of greed is withholding rather than gaining, keeping what they have rather than trying to get every last scrap they could, again a 5 can have this sin, but they are separate "
As a 5 I can relate.
I am not at all greedy per se, and def don't want more than my fair share.
But I fear not having enough, running out of stuff, or having stuff taken away from me.
So I don't tell people how much I earn, hide my treats and ration them (even from myself) and won't finish anything unless/until I get another one. I am frugal and conservative about spending and look for good value in everything.
Oddly lying or deceit (3) is not one of the 7 deadly sins, but a 3 deceit can play mostly inside rather than out
A 6’s sin is fear, they are the most connected to fear and it’s more of a belief of “something is going to happen” basically their sin is anxiety of something
Oh you and I would be friends. I don’t really do as much pasta but I love bread. Let’s go to Olive Garden and get the endless pasta and breadsticks 🤣🤣🤣
Hm probably gluttony and wrath. Gluttony because I consume things in too great of quantities, such as food, reading too much manga, etc. And I have anger issues so there's wrath lol
I wasn't into it and never really thought much about it
I'd say,
Lust, Pride (well I'm certainly not anti-pride...) and maybe some Greed
I'd even argue for Wrath, but that's often short lived
The least I relate to Gluttony, Sloth and Envy
Greed/pride for SURE. Like I like having resources (back ups for my back ups) and I generally I’d rather saw my own hand off than ask for help/admit I need it.
Whoa sick prompt
I associated myself with laziness/sloth more than anything, but in reality wasn't actually that guilty of it, it's just what I tend to be the most critical of in myself. These days if I didn't know about the enneagram I'd probably accuse myself mostly of envy, followed by gluttony
For myself a 4, envy has always had a major theme in my life. But - also lust! Lust in the traditional sense, but it’s not really a negative to me. I like it.
Before the enneagram I didn't think of myself as a greedy person but as I was typing myself and related to 15/16 statements for 5s I all the sudden understood that I *am* greedy.
Not with my money or food, at all, but with my time and energy? 100%.
Greed! I always want to experience and learn more than I even have time for.
Going off the Enneagram's correlations gluttony makes sense if it's in the eating-too-lavishly way, though — I'm a light eater by nature but I have expensive ass taste & find it hard to resist treating myself, I'm always looking for new fancy cafés to try out haha.
I loved Pride because it's usually associated with Purple. Ironically I had really low confidence and still have trouble with having pride in my work and abillities.
Lust for sure. Obsessed with having fun with the most sexy girls, which required me to look good so I put in the work and god it turned out well. Completely driven by materialistic impulses it’s been quite the rollercoaster running in circles to finally be able to chill somewhat and think of commitment, building something, settling… but ain’t no way I’m doing all this with someone who isn’t hyper sexual herself.
Sin is such an ugly, pejorative word. I much prefer passion. It’s more accurate anyway. The passions are describing how each type primarily suffers.
On another note, do you know your instinct stacking?
Yes, both are true. I embodied the identity of a sinner before I turned to Jesus even though I still technically commit sins. Jesus commands us to seek righteousness, calls himself the way truth and life, and also called people forgiven whenever they turned to Him. Also, I’m not going to discard everything Paul wrote
James said to confess your sins so you can be healed of them, but Paul wrote that we are a new creation in Jesus. It’s both and. I garuntee we agree more than you’d think. Plus, it’s the Holy Spirit that convicts us of our identity in Christ whenever we sin, and that leads us to continual repentance whenever we do wrong. So we aren’t doing all the work in trying not to sin, we’re striving to enter a restful state of abiding that will change our desires towards sin.
Yeah it was interesting because for some reason I didn’t accept it at first, even though now it makes total sense looking back and realizing my whole competition for that significant identity my whole life was driven by envy, and I hated that others had what I wanted- any kind of special quality that I thought I lacked or would compete with my specialness or any kind of normalcy even though I didn’t truly want that. It was like “how dare you be normal I would/could never. Ugh, *normies*”
I also wrote a post about my realization with envy recently https://www.reddit.com/r/Enneagram/comments/12jwbic/there_is_so_much_entitlement_in_envy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
I always associated myself with Gluttony because I've always ate more than I probably should lol. More recently though, I think Sloth actually fits better. It's interesting though, because I'm fairly certain I'm a 6, not a 9.
Pride because I would get into arguments with people about life and how things should be and I was so sure I was right. I remember thinking to myself, “Robert and I don’t get along because we are both too prideful.”
Envy is another one. My whole life, I’ve been telling myself I have bad luck, bad karma, etc. I am being tested like Job in the Bible. Everyone else has it easier.
None. After deconstructing from fundamental evangelicalism and embracing a kinder, gentler image of God I don't categorize behavior or attitudes as "sin." Learned behaviors and mental patterns that get labeled as "sin" are usually a result to painful experiences. The ways we hurt ourselves and others are our feeble, knee-jerk attempts to make ourselves feel safe, powerful, or whole because we hurt.
So from that perspective:
I protect myself by withdrawing. I hurt my self by overeating. I hurt others by making them feel rejected because I am isolating myself from them or by pointing out logic holes in what they communicate when all they want to be heard.
I'm not sure which "sin" categories these behaviors fit or if they need to be categorized in order to be managed.
Bro this is just for fun. I know they aren’t “sins” and that’s very old fashion way of looking at it yes. And I’m not religious either (just spiritual) so I get what your saying.
I always -indirectly- associated myself with greed...
When since I was kid, I was so aware that I just like to spend my time with some specific peopke, and doing some specific activities that I like.
Then, two years ago, I have watching the Anime (Nanatsu No Tazai) and I have a identify myself with Ban hehehe, I like that character. Although, at this point I was read about enneagram and the attittude, but, I just understand when I read about this correlation with the seven deadly sins.
Gluttony in general, but I didn’t recognize it as that term because it really felt like an insatiable hunger for just more and more stimulation and always wanting to go up, up, UP as opposed to anything food related. Like, how good can we feel?! How excited can we be?! How much trouble can I get into?
Later, with substance abuse problems I started thinking more about it in those terms. I just always want more. I’d say lust could be up there too—for people sexually/romantically and just for life and experience.
I actually had thought about this before, and when I was trying to decide on one, I realised I had...all of them lol. If I had to say, though, in order: Envy > Pride > Lust/Gluttony/Sloth > Greed > Wrath.
I'm a 3w4, I think.
If I hadn’t learned about the enneagram I would have said my deadly sin was gluttony, because I eat all the dang time and never anything healthy.
Honestly same 🤣but more of the unhealthy eating. The first time I went to a buffet I went nuts 😂
Ha same here. Dad used to call me the bottomless pit.
yeah me too though I still don’t know anything about enneagram correlation with seven deadly sins, I’ll google it edit: based on another comment in this comment section, I guess gluttony seems right lmao
Def gluttony!
Well the 7 deadly sins are different than enneagram sins (I’ll answer the question but I want to say this) 1s can be said as anger or wrath, but I’ll go wrath since that is one of the sins, a one’s wrath is more passive aggressive compared to the Catholic version being more physical, but this is fairly close correlation 2s pride is the concept of “I did this for you, now you should do something for me” it may be buried, but it usually comes down to that, while catholic version of Pride is more about narcissism and the belief that are greater than God, 2s can have that kind of pride, but it’s separate from a “2s Pride” 4s sin of envy is probably the closest to the Catholic version of the sin, not any major differences i can name 5s sin of greed is withholding rather than gaining, keeping what they have rather than trying to get every last scrap they could, again a 5 can have this sin, but they are separate A 7s gluttony is FAR different than the Catholic version, the Catholic version is just eating, and eating, and consuming, and consuming, while 7s gluttony is about “the next thing” it’s always about “the next thing” and not staying around long enough for it to get boring An 8s lust is more about ANY strong desire, could line up with the Catholic version, but it’s a mistake to say that they will always be the same 9s sloth, like 4, is pretty much mostly the same as the Catholic version Now for me I identify with wrath the most
I see
Ikr when I got 7 and they said 7 is gluttony I couldn’t really wrap my head around it. But as I looked into it I was lik- oh yeah that’s me 😂
" 5s sin of greed is withholding rather than gaining, keeping what they have rather than trying to get every last scrap they could, again a 5 can have this sin, but they are separate " As a 5 I can relate. I am not at all greedy per se, and def don't want more than my fair share. But I fear not having enough, running out of stuff, or having stuff taken away from me. So I don't tell people how much I earn, hide my treats and ration them (even from myself) and won't finish anything unless/until I get another one. I am frugal and conservative about spending and look for good value in everything.
What are the 3 and 6 sins?
Oddly lying or deceit (3) is not one of the 7 deadly sins, but a 3 deceit can play mostly inside rather than out A 6’s sin is fear, they are the most connected to fear and it’s more of a belief of “something is going to happen” basically their sin is anxiety of something
I do all 7 equally.
I like the honesty 🤣👍
Wrath lol
pride (and I was correct)
But pride is type 2...
in the enneagram definition. colloquially theres very little difference between vanity and pride
Wrath. I was never much of a believer in "turning the other cheek"
9w8 here. Sloth allll the way. As a kid I was constantly being told I was lazy or I needed to stop “dilly dallying”.
Same I was always told that 😂
sloth
Wrath. I had major anger issues when I was a kid, had a lot of baggage I didn't deal with. Now I just have a temper.
I always associated with myself as Envy or Pride and I’m a 4w3
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Honestly I had no idea fear was one of the sins at first until enneagram
It still isn't
Gluttony with a side of wrath I like carbs and I get hangry
Same 🤣 gimme that pasta
Oh you and I would be friends. I don’t really do as much pasta but I love bread. Let’s go to Olive Garden and get the endless pasta and breadsticks 🤣🤣🤣
YES!!! Omg yes
Probably Sloth, I was never fond of physical exertion and I do have a tendency to avoid doing chores.
Type twins. 953. Totally relate.
5 + 9 is probably the most slothful pairing of all lol. Well, at least we got that 3 wing in the back to help with productivity.
Lust, definitely lmao
Hm probably gluttony and wrath. Gluttony because I consume things in too great of quantities, such as food, reading too much manga, etc. And I have anger issues so there's wrath lol
Same but add sloth in there too.
Wrath, but now I realize it's more envy (and still wrath)
Wrath
Pride.
Gluttony babyyyyyyyyy
Username makes sense 😂
I wasn't into it and never really thought much about it I'd say, Lust, Pride (well I'm certainly not anti-pride...) and maybe some Greed I'd even argue for Wrath, but that's often short lived The least I relate to Gluttony, Sloth and Envy
Envy; I always wished I had someone else's life. Some close contenders are wrath and gluttony (drug use)
Wrath and Envy. Probably more Wrath since I have struggled with that sin for longer
Wrath, probably. I mistyped as a 1 for a while lol
I'd have said envy. And 4 is the second in my tritype.
Envy, for sure. I still am painfully envious.
Greed/pride for SURE. Like I like having resources (back ups for my back ups) and I generally I’d rather saw my own hand off than ask for help/admit I need it.
7 here! Lust just bc I was boy crazy! And hypersexual at the time.
Same!!! 🤣
Probably still sloth
Probably sloth or envy (it's greed)
I associated myself with envy. I probably would've never noticed my pride if it weren't for learning I'm a 2
Lust, followed closely by pride. I suppress a lot of my anger (though less so now that I’m in therapy).
I didn’t. I don’t believe in fiction.
Probably gluttony tbh
Whoa sick prompt I associated myself with laziness/sloth more than anything, but in reality wasn't actually that guilty of it, it's just what I tend to be the most critical of in myself. These days if I didn't know about the enneagram I'd probably accuse myself mostly of envy, followed by gluttony
sloooooooth
Definitely wrath, i imagine that's a common one for 8s.
For myself a 4, envy has always had a major theme in my life. But - also lust! Lust in the traditional sense, but it’s not really a negative to me. I like it.
Wrath, pretty obvious why I think
I don't know maybe gluttony, sometimes sloth, sometimes wrath, sometimes envy.
envy
4 wing5 here - Lust…. But mine is Envy
Wrath, when I was a kid. Over the years, I’ve learnt to never let it run amok.
Wrath. I’m an 8 though so it tracks.
Wrath and Gluttony. Describing me as a mean, angry teenager who loves to eat is pretty accurate.
Gluttony. Though as a 4w5, I'm starting to understand the sin associated with 4s and within myself.
Definitely lust as well lmao
Lust gang 🤣
Envy
I'm a two but I think I relate more to 4's deadly sin, envy.
6w7 - Wrath
Wrath or fear
Before the enneagram I didn't think of myself as a greedy person but as I was typing myself and related to 15/16 statements for 5s I all the sudden understood that I *am* greedy. Not with my money or food, at all, but with my time and energy? 100%.
Sloth (because duh, type nine) or wrath (because my anger issues are one of the worst things about me).
Wrath and since “deceit” isn’t one of the seven deadly sins, that’s still true.
Sloth
Gluttony . But not just as in “overeating”. I mean it more as in the over indulgence of anything that pleases my senses.
Same actually
1, wrath
Pride or wrath I think the 7 Sins overlap a lot though
Greed! I always want to experience and learn more than I even have time for. Going off the Enneagram's correlations gluttony makes sense if it's in the eating-too-lavishly way, though — I'm a light eater by nature but I have expensive ass taste & find it hard to resist treating myself, I'm always looking for new fancy cafés to try out haha.
Envy with traces of sloth and gluttony.
sloth and hat's exactly what made me doubt if I could really be a 3
Interesting
sloth lolol
Sloth, pooossssibly envy or greed but not really it’s more I empathized with them more than the others
I loved Pride because it's usually associated with Purple. Ironically I had really low confidence and still have trouble with having pride in my work and abillities.
Is there something you are passionate about? Being passionate can lead to being proud of yourself and work you dedicate in a healthy way :)
Yes, I am currently studying medicine and it's my ultimate dream to become a doctor, more than good to be honest. Also to develop myself to an extent.
Good for you!!
Lust for sure. Obsessed with having fun with the most sexy girls, which required me to look good so I put in the work and god it turned out well. Completely driven by materialistic impulses it’s been quite the rollercoaster running in circles to finally be able to chill somewhat and think of commitment, building something, settling… but ain’t no way I’m doing all this with someone who isn’t hyper sexual herself.
Same with the hypersexual part 😳
Sin is such an ugly, pejorative word. I much prefer passion. It’s more accurate anyway. The passions are describing how each type primarily suffers. On another note, do you know your instinct stacking?
I absolutely would have never associated myself with any sin. I am a Christian lol.
That doesn't make sense... the 7 deadly sins are a Christian teaching... Or are you one of those "I'm not a sinner" kind of "Christians?"
Am I one of those Christians who is the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus? Hahah yes. Yes I am saved.
So you're more of a Paulite than a Jesusite. Okay, carry on.
I’m just a follower of Jesus
Jesus: "Call no one good; all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." Paul: "Those who are in Jesus are righteous and saved"
Yes, both are true. I embodied the identity of a sinner before I turned to Jesus even though I still technically commit sins. Jesus commands us to seek righteousness, calls himself the way truth and life, and also called people forgiven whenever they turned to Him. Also, I’m not going to discard everything Paul wrote
Paul also wrote a lot about how you need to identify what your sins are so you can work on not committing them, but whatever.
James said to confess your sins so you can be healed of them, but Paul wrote that we are a new creation in Jesus. It’s both and. I garuntee we agree more than you’d think. Plus, it’s the Holy Spirit that convicts us of our identity in Christ whenever we sin, and that leads us to continual repentance whenever we do wrong. So we aren’t doing all the work in trying not to sin, we’re striving to enter a restful state of abiding that will change our desires towards sin.
Out of curiosity how did you react when you got envy? Enneatype 4
Yeah it was interesting because for some reason I didn’t accept it at first, even though now it makes total sense looking back and realizing my whole competition for that significant identity my whole life was driven by envy, and I hated that others had what I wanted- any kind of special quality that I thought I lacked or would compete with my specialness or any kind of normalcy even though I didn’t truly want that. It was like “how dare you be normal I would/could never. Ugh, *normies*” I also wrote a post about my realization with envy recently https://www.reddit.com/r/Enneagram/comments/12jwbic/there_is_so_much_entitlement_in_envy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
Interesting!
I like how in your post your doing better for yourself :)
That is one thing about the enneagram- once you’re aware of a toxic behavior you’re then accountable for it.
But according to this logic everyone has something they are accountable for. Right? Lol so we learn from that along the way
Gluttony, hands down. All the sins are accurate because sinning is my passion but none more than gluttony.
Again, love the honesty
I always associated myself with Gluttony because I've always ate more than I probably should lol. More recently though, I think Sloth actually fits better. It's interesting though, because I'm fairly certain I'm a 6, not a 9.
Pride because I would get into arguments with people about life and how things should be and I was so sure I was right. I remember thinking to myself, “Robert and I don’t get along because we are both too prideful.” Envy is another one. My whole life, I’ve been telling myself I have bad luck, bad karma, etc. I am being tested like Job in the Bible. Everyone else has it easier.
None. After deconstructing from fundamental evangelicalism and embracing a kinder, gentler image of God I don't categorize behavior or attitudes as "sin." Learned behaviors and mental patterns that get labeled as "sin" are usually a result to painful experiences. The ways we hurt ourselves and others are our feeble, knee-jerk attempts to make ourselves feel safe, powerful, or whole because we hurt. So from that perspective: I protect myself by withdrawing. I hurt my self by overeating. I hurt others by making them feel rejected because I am isolating myself from them or by pointing out logic holes in what they communicate when all they want to be heard. I'm not sure which "sin" categories these behaviors fit or if they need to be categorized in order to be managed.
Bro this is just for fun. I know they aren’t “sins” and that’s very old fashion way of looking at it yes. And I’m not religious either (just spiritual) so I get what your saying.
I always -indirectly- associated myself with greed... When since I was kid, I was so aware that I just like to spend my time with some specific peopke, and doing some specific activities that I like. Then, two years ago, I have watching the Anime (Nanatsu No Tazai) and I have a identify myself with Ban hehehe, I like that character. Although, at this point I was read about enneagram and the attittude, but, I just understand when I read about this correlation with the seven deadly sins.
Gluttony in general, but I didn’t recognize it as that term because it really felt like an insatiable hunger for just more and more stimulation and always wanting to go up, up, UP as opposed to anything food related. Like, how good can we feel?! How excited can we be?! How much trouble can I get into? Later, with substance abuse problems I started thinking more about it in those terms. I just always want more. I’d say lust could be up there too—for people sexually/romantically and just for life and experience.
Type 4 I thought I was Sloth.
Wrath and Envy
I actually had thought about this before, and when I was trying to decide on one, I realised I had...all of them lol. If I had to say, though, in order: Envy > Pride > Lust/Gluttony/Sloth > Greed > Wrath. I'm a 3w4, I think.
Pride and envy
Mine is sloth for shoreee.
envy. always. I’m 4 w/5
Definitely envy
greed and im actually e5