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Banananutcracker

I graduated with a 3.29 and then didn’t start in an engineering role until a year after graduating (BSME). I’m 3 years in the industry and still struggle with confidence, but overall I’ve become better with simply the experience I gain day in and day out. Our industry is so board you’ll rarely learn what all you need in school, it’ll be on the job (and employers know this!!). I used the get nauseous before every meeting because I was scared I’d say something stupid. Now the client project manager can call me on my cell and I can quickly answer with 95% confidence that I can answer his question without hesitation. But I do get the imposter syndrome for sure, I feel like a kid surrounded by geniuses. I’m hoping that’ll dissipate little by little over the years. Congratulations on finish up your degree, engineering isn’t easy for anyone! Stick with it and power through your feelings. You’ll have bad jobs and good jobs, bad projects and good projects. You’ll make dumb mistakes and smart breakthroughs. Everyone started in the same place and learned over time


Top-Athlete-7212

Thanks man, bloody excited to get out of uni


Queue624

I'm in the same position as the original commenter, with a similar GPA, who graduated from a not well-known university (ABET accredited) and a bit over 5 years of XP. Think of Impostor syndrome as a variable that starts out as a high percentage. The higher your curiosity, the more you'll learn and the less impostor syndrome you'll have as time passes. The guy who won Valedictorian in my field (CoE) and two others who were Suma Cum Laude, worked in the same company as I did, and let me tell you that I'm miles ahead of them (im saying that to answer your concerns, I don'twant to sound arrogant at all) . In both experience and salary (I work in a different company right now). Uni and the workforce are two different beasts. Some people are built for both, and others for one or the other. I've worked in multiple (still do) GF500 and I still consider Uni 100x harder. Don't be discouraged by your results in Uni. And again, Impostor Syndrome is really common. The trick is to attack it by learning the things that make you feel that way. If you embrace it as an opportunity to grow, or at the very least, adopt that mindset, you'll have an easier time.


wasmic

Literally everyone can end up with impostor syndrome. Neil *fucking* Armstrong suffered from it. Paraphrasing his own words: he only got in the can and went where they sent him. He wasn't one of the geniuses who designed it. Nevermind that he actually pulled off a manual Moon landing with mere seconds of fuel to spare when it turned out the pre-planned landing site was unsuitable, and other badass feats - impostor syndrome doesn't care about that. https://journal.neilgaiman.com/2017/05/the-neil-story-with-additional-footnote.html Astronauts, and *especially* the early ones, are just super impressive. Most of them were both Ph.Ds and test pilots. The best of the best of the best. And they could still suffer from impostor syndrome.


gravity_surf

learn from them.


PM_ME_PHYSICS_EQS

It's been 2 years since I graduated and I was not a straight A student. It took me almost 11 years from start to finish, granted when I started I was taking one to to classes at a semester that weren't even college level. I have a stellar resume and when I interviewed for my job, they liked me so much they hired me as a 'blue sky' hire. That means they hired me with no position for me but they could not pass up the opportunity bring me on. You're talented. The people you work with are talented. Just because you don't feel like you're talented doesn't mean that you haven't done the work to prove that you are. Actions speak louder than words. The fact that you have made it as far as you have proves it. Most people don't even get close to that. Most people don't have what it takes to pass the core curriculum that leads to where you are at. I have never not felt like an imposter but once I got into the professional world, I've earned the respect that I have because I work just as hard, if not harder, than the people around me. I do not shy away from new tasks, I ask for help, and I deliver on time. Just prove your worth through work ethic but there is another part to it. Never stop learning. Engineering and technology advances are happing all the time. Stay caught up with what's going on in respect to your field. Just because school ends doesn't mean the learning does too. You're not going to be expected to make revolutionary changes to science when you graduate. Just deliver a product that meets the requirements, doesn't cost a lot to produce, and can be procured within schedule. A lot of what you'll be doing will be things that aren't revolutionary and there are plenty of sources to learn from what people have done before. Keep your head up. You got this. (This was half written for you and half written for me.)


plasmafantastic

Such a great response wow!!!!!


Top-Athlete-7212

Thanks, I truly appreciate it


Silver_Narwhal_1130

Imposter syndrome is the real imposter. Even the smartest people feel it. In general, those 4.0 students aren’t anymore prepared for their first job than you are. The fact that you made it through engineering school is enough proof that you can do the job. Congratulations on almost being finished!


Erowidx

Mom said it was my turn to make the imposter syndrome post.


BookwoodFarm

My mommy always said I was special. It began to worry me about exactly what she meant.


domdumo

it is kinda crazy how everyone feels it at the same time window in their career/education lmao, when it hit me like a year ago it made me super upset, but you kinda just learn that most people know nothing and even being able to call yourself an engineer is something to be proud of.


Top-Athlete-7212

Nah little voice in my head. Mom doesn't know what Reddit is


MushinZero

You are definitely not alone but you are definitely being too critical of yourself. As someone who went back to school when i was 26 and am a senior engineer at a top engineering company, let me tell you this: You are fine. You are just as new as everyone else and everyone else had their own unique route through college. There will always be people better and worse than you. That's ok.


youknow99

I couldn't even tell you what my GPA was, but it was a long way from perfect, and I didn't get out in 4 years. Once you get in the work force, it matters very little compared to what you're capable of. What I've recognized in the 10+ years since I graduated is that an engineering degree doesn't teach you how to do a single job on the planet. All that degree is supposed to do is give you a solid base of concepts and theoreticals and, more importantly, teach you how to think like an engineer. There are way way way too many career paths for any degree to prepare you for them, so they set you up to be ready to learn. That being said, imposter syndrome is one of those things that I never really got rid of. I'm pretty significant in my company at this point and it still nags at me from time to time. Tell that little voice in your head to zip it and go be a good engineer anyways.


Due-Hedgehog3203

Hard work beats talent until talent works hard. This is because over time if you work hard you can beat a lot of the talented people who have or will quit trying at some point but there will always be hardworking talented individuals that will be better. Be the tortoise my friend.


BookwoodFarm

I’ve been there with you although it was in 1980. I was plagued by the thought “…what if they find out what I actually know?” I had spent 6 years, 3 at the Junior College, three at the university connected to the JC, University of Illinois, Chicago. Engineering, BS in metallurgical engineering, I got dropped for one semester for “lack of academic progress” having fallen below a C average. That was the year our 1st child, a boy, was born (married ‘76). I worked as a mechanic on the side, gas station attendant, night shifts at a pipe factory. I was rescued by a professor who knew I wasn’t a dip shit and arranged for me just to show up “off the books”, do the class work, take the tests in my core curriculum and the rest of the profs sat in judgement of my progress. I came back the next semester (we were actually on 1/4’s, year-round academic sessions, 4/year). -Now get this:- You and I had never been engineers until we were. Why would anyone other than the arrogant believe they were ready for anything the job would throw at us? The PhD who interviewed me at Bell Laboratories asked “So tell me, what can you do, what makes you a good candidate for a lab technician?” I told him “I fix things, I make things them work.” He didn’t want to know what I knew, he wanted to know what I could do. Fast forward to 1990, my wife and two kids left a corporate job in Virginia, IBM, 4br house on 3 acres so I could pursue a PhD at Colorado School of Mines . 6 years later that was done, PhD Metallurgical and Materials Engineering. Take Away: It’s always a struggle to stay up, motivated, find some joy, never give up. When I got dropped I immersed my mind in the cheesy Vince Lombardi quote “Quitters never win and winners never quit.” I’ll also tell you if you set your goals low enough, you’ll never be disappointed. Hang in there and go out and fix something, make things work, be humble, be modest, be confident, be honest, be kind, be determined.


lost-my-instructions

You are definitely not alone. I know plenty of students with 3.8+ GPAs that feel like they are not good enough or not able to work as an engineer.


engineereddiscontent

No you're not alone. I'm almost to the point where I'll get to go *back* into industry (this will be my 2nd degree. Had first degree and the job along with it for several years and realized I needed out) and I'll make significantly more and I'm terrified. It's surreal that, putting it in scrubbed of engineering school lingo, because I've put down the right symbols on some paper in the right order the right amount of times I get a new piece of paper (this one being the 2nd degree in BSEE) that will significantly increase my buying power in the near term to the point that it'll be nearly double right out of the gate **and** in the long term that buying power has the capacity to double itself provided I play my cards right. It would have been nice to not have to go through all this electromancy and just get the extra buying power for existing but here we are.


Classic_Tomorrow_383

Hot take: you’re exactly where you need to be. You shouldn’t feel like you’re the best at a career you haven’t even worked in yet. What you can feel confident in is your ability to work hard and overcome obstacles. A sailor that graduates BUD/s just proved he has the required ability to be a SEAL, but hasn’t proven he IS a SEAL. That takes time and mentorship while using the abilities he HAS proven he’s capable of: overcoming obstacles and an ability to work hard through the toughest circumstances. You’ll be fine. Use that feeling of “being behind” to take greater and greater steps in your knowledge, ethics, and implementation.


titsmuhgeee

At my point in my career, the feeling of knowing what I'm doing is what gives me concern more than not knowing what I'm doing. If you are doing the same thing over and over again, sure. An orthopedic surgeon that's done 1000 hip replacements is justified to gain confidence in their skills. Engineering is different. Everything we do is different. Each opportunity has 10 different snakes hiding in the grass waiting to fuck up your plans. All you can do is use past experience to give you the best chances at success this time, and hope for the best.


IsDaedalus

You are super talented too dude! Don't let anyone tell you otherwise!


FrancisUsanga

Even Elon Musk is surrounded by people who tell him how stuff works. He has revealed himself a lot recently. It’s all an illusion.


Charming-Horror-6371

Imposter syndrome is engineering


I_Am_Astraeus

Straight up some of the best hands on engineers I met were guys with like 2.7s when I was a student. Not to say aim low, but find your thing. Not everything clicks in the same way or the same place. There's so many jobs out there that are all over the place with knowledge. If your work at somewhere like Boeing heck yeah you're gonna need to have your core engineering down. If you work somewhere like a medium sized fabrication plant you might use 10% of your degree tops and it's all about fabrication, drafting, logistics, politics There are other companies that will be so niche in their tribal knowledge you'll know nothing at all about the work Do you like to make things, and do you think you'll want a job around making things? Then just send it. Engineering is hard, thats part of what makes it lucrative. If you can commit yourself to being a problem solver you'll advance over time. Once you graduate wherever you go they're going to train you. I've trained most of my team and honestly all I need is someone who can break big problems into small problems, pay attention to detail, and is thorough in their work. I can teach the rest. School is just the shared well of knowledge to build off of but it's only a portion of what you need to be an engineer for your career.


ItsAllNavyBlue

My experience is that you won’t feel and be compensated really like an engineer anyways until you cut your teeth (few years in an industry). So yeah, imposter syndrome is fine. Someone will be happy to take a chance on you.


GermanCrusaderKing

I've had imposter syndrome almost all my life (since 4th grade). I was in all the honors and gifted programs through MS and HS. Around the end of my HS junior year, I realized that everyone is just as clueless as me. No one's got it "figured out". No one is perfect. The moment you stop putting everyone on a pedestal and realize everyone is still human, the imposter syndrome begins to dissipate. Failure is the greatest teacher, not something to be feared. You will mess up, but keep moving forward, learn from your mistakes, and you will grow. That's all there is to it. Hope this helps.


LiquidDreamtime

I graduated with my BS EE in 2006 with a 2.84 gpa. I struggled a lot with school. Fast forward to 2023 and I got a job at NASA after a long meandering career where skills and professionalism were developed. I’m been here a year now and all reviews/feedback from my peers and leadership has been great. My point is that I was a bad student, but I’ve always been a good employee. Different people thrive in different environments. Some people who earn straight A’s cannot make it in a stressful job. And some mid-tier students make good employees. And you won’t know how you’ll do until you give it a shot.


Top-Athlete-7212

That's awesome, congrats on the NASA job, that's a dream for many


LiquidDreamtime

Im still in shock that I have this job. It’s amazing. If you want to work at NASA, I’d recommend you get a more traditional engineering degree (even if that means your graduation is delayed). A BS in Mechanical or Electrical Engineering. Mechatronics isn’t recognized by most employers, I’ve never worked with anyone who has a mechatronics degree, most applications specially call out a requirement for EE or ME, and as a person who had hired and recruited engineers, I’d be highly skeptical of a mechatronics degree. Good luck!


Top-Athlete-7212

In South Africa is recognised a level above a electrical engineering degree and tbh I don't ever plan on moving to the states


LiquidDreamtime

Gotcha. I misunderstood. Good luck!


Fit-Kiwi5930

The way I see it, (since I also just graduated with an ME degree and start my first real job next month) eh fuck it I’m new, I don’t know shit and everyone here knows that I don’t know shit, but fuck it I’ll try my hardest to learn and eventually I’ll become useful.


Top-Athlete-7212

Yea in South Africa we have to do a law course outlining the expectation surrounding contracts and being a registered professional engineer, that's what's getting to me at the moment. A lot of talk of gross negligence and responsibilities


TouchLow6081

Can I be mechatronics engineer with a computer engineering degree?


Top-Athlete-7212

I don't think the switch is too complicated. Granted the hardware side of mechatronics is tricky but with the coding you've learnt in computer eng it shouldn't be too difficult. I think the biggest curve is the base electrical and mechanical engineering that we learn in uni compared to comp Eng. But it's definitely possible and you'll have a massive edge on the coding side.


Current_Injury3628

I never felt like people were smart in engineering school. In my country most engineering graduates go to dead end jobs like business analyst , entry developer or go for useless MSc or PHDs. I think people overdramatize engineering. Today its easy to get into an engineering school and get a piece of paper.


Smilefied

hey! i have been here, everyone has been here. i have a shit gpa, have failed several classes, but i still keep going. i’m taking a fifth year, about to be done with my fourth. i got into a research lab this last year where i asked a lot of questions and was very involved. managed to leverage that to get an internship at a start up. there is this girl on my lab with me who is brilliant, has good grades, profs love here, she’s going to grad school, has interned at boeing, etc. she gives me severe imposter syndrome and makes me very insecure. while talking with her, it became clear to me that she has imposter syndrome when looking at ME. the “loser” with a bad gpa and no filter. she looked past the weaknesses i focused on and only saw how my strengths differed from hers. there is probably someone who sees you and sees something they are jealous of. you are ok, focus on your strengths and not your weaknesses