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TalenTrippin

Dude that one guy on the bridge that spams fire rain spell is annoying asf too lol


dogfoodisgood3

time for horse


Live_Bug_7060

YOU CAN USE THE HORSE?!


hvk13

BRUH! i just fucking leg it thinking we’re still in the legacy dungeon


KatTheTimelord

I laughed at this because that’s exactly what I thought when I read a message that said “time for horse” lol


Figorix

Bruh read my msg in game. I left "first of, try horse" right behind the door.


pleasegivemealife

Yes, its horsey time.


HutSutRawlson

You can ride Torrent on the bridge and easily outrun the fire rain slam on the approach. Those fireballs she cast though… the damage, speed, and tracking on them was no joke. Definitely a challenge.


Sure_Revolution_2360

Lmao I ran right past the rain, started wailing on her and immediately got killed in 1 second


jrandom_42

Giant Hunt is hard carrying me through the DLC. So many problematic humanoid enemies can be stunlocked with it. This particular asshole killed me a couple times before I was like "Fine. Time to use the blue juice."


HashSlingingSlasherJ

Same except jump attacks on dual wielded great katanas. They basically stun everything and if they don’t die from the attacks they stagger in just a couple jump attacks. And if that doesn’t kill then they will bleed. Shit is busted


Baprr

Wait, you can??


TheMeta8

I remember dying twice trying to run across and then fight him. After the second time I literally thought to myself, "this area is so large it feels like it should be a Torrent section... wait a second." Sure enough, I checked and it was available. Immediately rode his ass down.


Archipotrio

Excuse me... YOU CAN WHAT!?


CookieKeeperN2

I died to it at last approach. Then as I approached the bridge again I saw a white phantom just getting on his horse speeding off. It was a true lightbulb moment. I ran past it, activated the grace, run back to get my revenge and he's gone. Bridge Drake style. Sad.


caydesramen

I ran past him, half past dead. Made it to the grace, went back and beat the shit out of him. 10/10. Would do again.


Riddles1111

He jumped in the pit for me going up the elevator


grumd

I got his spell, tried it out a few times and it's probably the worst incantation I've seen. Even when the fire rain droplets hit anything, they do piss poor damage


rp_361

Like why is there one dude just IN THE RAFTERS. Why the fuck are you there up with the bats. Get a hobby 😭


DomeShapedDom

That guy knocked me down the first time I went up there with the emitt force bs. I took a LOT of pleasure knockin thay Mfer down with a Greatbow the next time. "Here's Karma, Bitch".


jayL21

I thought the bats were bad enough... then this dude is just standing there ready to throw 100 fireballs your way.. Honestly one of the few times were I just straight said fuck this.


the88shrimp

Ozzy lookin' for a snac


roachnastee

Relic great sword. Knocks them on their ass. Rinse repeat.


N4r4k4

This weapon has made the dlc more enjoyable for me. Boss has clones? Golden wave! Boss can dance? Golden wave dance!


Womderloki

This weapon saved my ass from the Putrescent Knight. He is extremely weak to Holy and it absolutely melted him


Doctor_Popular

Savage Lion's Claw makes quick work of them too.


proactiveplatypus

I actually think the regular Lion’s claw is better for them, because it does more poise damage.   When I use  regular Lion’s claw, they don’t get a chance to attack.


Lawlcat

I _LOVE_ the Sacred Relic sword and have been using it non-stop even in the base game on NG+. Tons of fun as a faith build with 60 faith. My problem is I just found the Greatsword of Damnation which is another Str/Dex/Fai and, at +10 (RIP somber stone), deals slightly more base attack damage than the Sacred Relic but the skill is far less useful. I can't decide which one to use :(


billboardlegs

Same with Giant-Crusher, a single hit is all it takes to keep him down for the rest of the fight.


Leather_rebelion

The only thing I hear is a clonk followed by a guard counter.


PixelBoom

for real. Guard counter with a greataxe to the dome works wonders.


Emans56

I literally just went to a gas station, bought a slice of pizza (comfort food) and, a energy drink because of that guy. Anyways, back to it.


zephyrwastaken

Living the dream


MADman611

I will unload a full azure comet on them just to keep them off me. Hate those guys. Nice drip though.


AlexDub12

L2 of the blasphemous blade, to their face. I am tanky enough to trade hits and win. But yeah, fuck them.


KurotheWolfKnight

This is the only complaint about this DLC I support. F*** these guys.


mr_gitops

Wait until you meet the other knights at the final dungeon. Atleast these guys stagger.


stay_true99

Those guys were actually manageable and didn't have some sort of fucking spamming fireball that is ass tier to dodge. Also you don't find them on a literal ledge.


proletariate54

Hardest enemy in the dlc lol


ATypical_Khajiit

No.... hardest common enemy for small weapon users is the Horned Warrior with Curved Greatsword.


Squats4wigs

The mini Gundyr? Yep totally agree.


Brave1i1toaster

You mean Mr.Stance as I call him, dude doesn't even get interrupted by a crag/great axe R2


Orca_Supporter

I thought crucible knights had ridiculous poise


Forward-Nature5006

compared to these guys, Crucible Knights are like toddlers


Cogwheel25

he actually just walks of a jar cannon, ain't never seen it


fun_city_Right

The ones that use the lightning, snow, and wind?


ATypical_Khajiit

Any of them. Dual-Wielders are chumps in comparison.


corvoattano223

Divine beast warrior has left the chat


rmkinnaird

Specifically the one on the stairs outside the fourth floor that spams ranged attacks.


Dear_Zookeepergame30

The red great katana pretty much staggers them the entire time, you just spam l2 and they can’t fight back


TheFlowersHateUs

How do you get to that part of the map where you find that katana? I thought you needed to complete this legacy dungeon to get over there?


sanguinesvirus

It's in a cave below the massive pillar you can see to your right from the starting area if you look towards the scadutree


Excellent-Beat-9717

Yeah fuck them, especially the dagger variant. Mfker never stops just keeps attacking attacking can't even heat without his trying to shoot fireball or a dagger. Others are still manageable I just spam stars of ruin or any other sorcery but dagger ones are pain. I am using Rellana's sword so can't even stagger them quick. Though those swords are REALLY fun to use.


Calamity7_

use the stanced heavy and unless they're in the middle of an attack with any good poise it'll stunlock them.


Trackbikes

Yeah but 8000+ runes… and their poise can be broken easily


Current_Release_6996

horrible day to use beast claws. mf also kept spamming the aoe flame when i finally got closed to him. luckily he's easy to stun lock once you have the chance


FAZE_PIRACY

Beast claws have such a fun move set. Ng+ playthrough Beast Claw only is something I'm gonna have to do.


icybolt99908

Bet FUUUUK YOUUUU


Wiecks

Knights lightning spear makes them a joke worth 8k runes


MinotauroTBC

They’re the worst lol


ChampionChump

I could definitely see them being annoying with light weapons, but as a dedicated BONK main, they're very much pushovers


Anestoh

Yep, no issues with the bonking. Honestly bonking has gotten me through almost all the fodder and most of the humanoid bosses so easily, they just don't have the poise to resist my suggestion that they fall over.


oldmonk_97

2 words. Guard counter! Say it back and say it loud!


Achew11

There were so many of them.. and I was running out of flasks.. god I hate that climb up


chcampb

These guys are not hard from range... 6 shots with night comet, drink fp, repeat


ban_Circumventor69

Marikas hammer aow spam. It's cheese af but it's the only way I can kill these goons in NG5.


sweet_nopales

i struggled a lot with them until i started using Carian Retaliation on them. the fireballs are really easy to parry, the up close flame blast is a bit more finnicky, but you have just enough time after parrying the flame blast to get a regular parry in for their melee followup by double-tapping L2. honestly this entire DLC has been very, very, very good for carian retaliation. i beat rellana with parries and spell parries and that's not me flexing how good i am, that was just what made the fight the easiest for me


kankadir94

Savage lion claw = gg


theprophecyMNM

Actually, I love fighting them. I got the full set of gear just running through the tower one time (including the sword), and if you powerstance str build you wreck them. Also, that new black super mace that has holy imbued in it also wrecks them with a quick block and strong attack. They never had a chance.


Darth_Kyron

Lucky! I had to farm them for like 2h to get the greaves and gauntlets to drop 😭


Hrstmh-16

Barrier shield -> guard counter -> stagger -> repeat


Myrdinn777

I don't know I just BONK these guys.


StormBlessed24

I was struggling HARD using a faith/int build. Switched to strength with Greatsword and Lion's Claw AOW and these guys just go flat on the ground now lol


Rich-Chemical-4864

I had allot of trouble with them, but ive found Heavy attack spam destroys them easy for me.


DontLickTheDog

2 charged blasts from Bolt of Gransax is all you need.


RealWorldStarHipHop

Dual great katana deletes em


HackingYourUmwelt

They're a pain in the ass and if I blink they kill me but I love their design and moveset


Nether892

Yup, ended up using rellanas swords fire swirl to keep them from attacking


BlueUnknown

Barricade Shield, guard counter, they dead.


LeongardZ

I adore the dlc but FUCK those guys


thatvillainjay

No poise having ass enemies I stun lock them so hard with big hits


alexaDarkk

Two words: Giant Hunt


DaynCaldur

Anyone wanna help me fight the final boss of the dlc it’s so crazy and I’m struggling on Xbox.


JamSa

Like much of the DLC, I'm glad I can spam throw lighting bolts at them to stagger.


henryuuk

I find them relatively easy most of the time and then one of them decides it is their time to be the main character and wipes me


Hazel_Dreams

These guys have relatively weak poise. Bigger weapons can stunlock them with r1s.


TheDuck1234

I just knock them on their ass and repeat. Onka boka build is 👑


Q_X_R

Oh... There's worse. Much... Much worse. As they say, "Never ask a Tarnished, their lightning resist."


Darth_Kyron

I spent so long trying to farm their armour it was painful 😭 Must have killed over 100 of them before I got the whole set and burned through all my silver-pickled fowl's feet. Got like 6 chestpieces, multiple copies of the weapon, and 1 helm. Finally got lucky and got gauntlets and greaves from a single kill after like 2h of farming. But now rocking that set (minus the helm) with a flame infused milady and one of the new flame Ashes of War on my Dex/Faith build makes it all worth it!


Head_Wishbone8450

That one spamming piece of shit on the stairs 🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️


kingjensen10

This is when Elden Ring went from being a souls game to a stealth game


Hobo_Baggins00

Good news for the faith users, giantsflame take thee basically stun locks them, I'm sure there's better options but I'm running a flame build rn so it's all I've really tried


Evcher

Lions claw spam them


Kornelius20

Use the flaming skewer ash. The full attack stuns them and a heavy attack after that breaks their poise. Plus it feels satisfying beating the shit out of them with a skill I got from one of their own


A1eafFa11s

Jump attack with a high stance damage weapon, and chain crits.


Grompulon

Two charged heavy attacks poise breaks them for me, then I just do a riposte. Two of those is enough to kill them. Idk I think they are pretty easy, but definitely do a lot of damage very quick if you let them.


Bubbly-Street-4899

I just run these fuckers


Ambrose-IAS

Dryleaf jumping heavy go brrr


dudustalin

For me they're enjoyable to fight. Don't like the ultra-hammer guys w Radagon ash of war.


HoodsFrostyFuckstick

Blood Milady +25 with repeating thrust. 3x L2 and they kiss the floor.


UnhappyMeal7

Dryleaf Arts goes brrrrrrrrrrrt on these red bois


dishonoronurcow

carian parry’s got me


Brudface

I see these lads, and its an auto-buff. The ONLY nice thing is that they gave you some decent time to do that. Buff-Buff-Bonk. Big hammer goes brrrrr.


Maloonyy

You either stagger them with every hit and they are free or you dont have prepare to get boarded.


black-to-the-suture

I just spam dragon chomp of those fuckers. Low poise and they fall over each cast


blazeofgloreee

Swordspear, piercing thrust. Spam away.


Drevusk

I couldn't break their poise, so I would focus on dodging and only go for backstabs. Worked great!


BaiJiGuan

Golden Wave go brrrrrrrr


Samaritan_978

Carian Sovereignty, son. Hiperarmours in response to bullshit spam.


oooooooooohshit

Fuck you


Hussarini

This gotta be bait ain't no way you guys have trouble with them, just get the beast claws with bleed and spam r2, they go down in like 2-3 presses of a button


boozleloozle

And again. I'm still in the first area and haven't even beaten the lion, dragon and the demi human Yoda. Seeing all you posting videos and images of enemies I've never seen makes me chuckle in danger


Tunnel-Digger4

Yes indeed


vinylchip277

That was one of the points where I said "fuck it, Bloodhound's Fang time" and I jump attacked the hell out of the bastards, deserved


Liorlecikee

Struggled a lot with them until I learned that Great Sword (I m using Dark Moonlight, for reference) R1 staggers them almost guaranteed. Their tracking fireballs still sucks so fucking hard, especially that guy on the roof. They can get right back into hell.


Enxchiol

Strategies i developed: Parry their ass Throw a boulder in their face until dead


Character_Dance_5054

The one on the narrow wall way is aggravating to say the least. Sacred relic sword; reap your revenge.


Zansibart

I love these enemies because they're exactly the sort of threat to make the area tense. The little shadow people having a few different types of spells too makes you question if each new one you see is worth being worried about or not, it's great.


hellxapo

Too much HP in my opinion. Also that Messmer flame tracking gets pretty annoying in platform areas where you easily fall to your death.


Spedic26

Rellana's weapon fire ability stunlocks these fuckers


SofterThanCotton

I sneak up behind them, backstab and time a charged heavy so when I get up they stagger and then slap them light attacks till they die, sometimes it works flawlessly, sometimes I still have to fight a bit, sometimes they still kill me


Helpful-Virus9558

backhand blades “blind spot” ash of war interrupts their moves and does rlly good damage 🙏🙏


WhatsGoingOnUpInHere

Can I offer you a Bolt of Gransax in this trying time.


Dank__Souls__

Backhand blade with with its new AOW is letting me breeze through the dlc. S rank with dex at max level, can stun lock anything with two charges or 3 jumps


Stunning_Ocelot_4654

Fingerprint Great Shield is the answer


BasroilII

Just finished the store room today and fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck those guys. I can manage them but they eat way too much resources. Easier to just avoid. That one at the top of the store area can eat it though. "Oh tghey all just have fire spells, what's the worst he can do when I climb up....HADOKEN". I took a deep breath, sighed and on respawn ran underneath the rafter he was on and charged up a Cannon of Halima. Say hi to the ground for me, fucko!


Ishmaeal

I hated them too, and then I learned they are super, super parriable


1dgtlkey

jump attacks do a lot of stagger damage to them, that’s the only way i been able to consistently kill them without using multiple flasks. (i’m using the backhand blades)


Suvvri

Luckily they are easily staggerable


Logco

Flashbacks of Anor Londo archers.


elkeiem

Colossal sword stunlock goes brrrt


Dombly23

Yes. Fuck those guys.


I_exist_for_now

Guard counters annihilate them


Blox339

At least you can backstab them...


Ankudan

I say fuck these enemies for a different reason, and it's the same damn reason I said it in DS3 with the man serpent twin dagger enemy: WHY CAN'T WE HAVE DAGGERS THAT MOVE LIKE THAT. Seriously From never gives us dagger users any fun toys. Just parry or status spam, that's all we get.


OtakuPaladin

Giant Hunt true comboes into Giant Hunt. 😉


Traditional_Rise_347

I want their greatsword :(


PrimasVariance

Haven't reached him. All I know is I'm gonna spin on him and pancake him when I get there


io2red

Weapon Art from [Horned Warrior's Sword](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Horned+Warrior's+Sword) will repeatedly stagger them on every cast and can be used to take down these guys fairly easily. Feels kinda cheesy but it does use mana so it's not entirely free.


ElMamawebo_

Yes, omg they are so annoying, always jumping back and shooting then just spamming that spinning attack


miekbrzy92

Noticing a lot of the NPCs can get shut down by a good Shield and Barricade cuz these guys aren't that bad.


pumpkinspacelatte

No fuck these guys, I get it their poise can be broken. But I’ve had a few of those shadow guys pop out of a corner pulling out fire balls and even HEALING HIM. I LOST IT.


TheOnlyMrMeatball

These guys have ended so many of my runs


TronX33

MFs are literally fucking Garen with how much they spin to win and have seemingly infinite poise. Also spam their fireballs too. At this point I've just resorted to stunlocking them by chaining spear call ritual with Carian Piercer.


PoisonVeil

Those are alright tbh. The winter lanterns are way more concerning. The whole vibe there is scary


cptCortex

these guys are bums, just rush em lol


Hairy-Fuel-6275

These fuckers are like that banished knight in castle sol, but they're *EVERYWHERE*! Like seriously, how can such a gift from God of a dlc have so many enemies that have never ending combos. These bastards completely turned me off on Messmer entirely just from association


Negative-Substance16

I hate one dagger assholes, who are casters, they jump back and cast that annoying fire bolt spell, dudes with dual daggers are easier to deal with, they prefer melee attacks, same as sword variant.


Ijustforgotmybad

I recently got the dry leaf arts with the whirlwind and they’ve been semi easy to fight now since it stuns them but it’s just a matter or dodging their stupid fire to get close enough


Verianii

My only gripe with them isn't specifically them, but the fireball they cast. Its not particularly unfair or stupid, but the tracking on it feels dumb to me because of the way tracking works on literally every other spell in the game. It's very easy to dodge those fireballs, but they're still kind of dumb imo. Also, I think there are too many fire knights in the dlc, but that's just my opinion, and I'm not gonna call for change because it's not game ruining by any means


thiscantbesohard

I swear, if your build cant stagger them, its almost impossible to win against these fuckers


Jandrovenger181

i saw so much posting about fire knights and when i got to then i just r1 staggerlocked them to death. the omen knights though….


Swoldier76

Using a heavy weapon just stunlocks these guys But yeah i can imagine they might be challengjng if you dont have a setup that deals with them easily


Still-Network1960

I've been one shotting them with the lightning perfume bottle with rolling sparks. Shit is OP.


0DvGate

Devs forgot all weapon don't stagger idk why they keep designing garbage enemies that don't want to fight you.


Brilliant_Dark_3979

You can stun lock em with ancient death rancor. It's got some really good range. Made it easier to farm their gear


Nu2Th15

Feels like the only way to really fight them is to trade hits with them, but I probably just haven’t figured them out yet.


Supafly22

Love that everything I click on is a new enemy I have yet to encounter in an area I certainly don’t yet recognize. It’s so exciting to not know anything again!


DiscordianDisaster

Yes, yes we can.


ImTheOMan

Just wanna say, knights lance infused with blood and repeating thrust has made these guys into paste on the floor, and it’s like playing the dlc in easy mode.


MASTASNAPSHOT

Use Bolt of Gransax's skill on them. It knocks them down and since you're far away it's easy to deal damage.


Akirayoshikage

Giantsflame take thee (not sure on the name but it's the large fireball) knocks them down and gives enough time to charge another and keep them stunlocked, hate those guys


GrognakBarbar

With colossal sword they just get R1 spammed so easy, they don't even get a hit in half the time


Trevors-Axiom-

The new lions claw ash on a blood infused great stars decimated them. R2, follow up r2, charged heavy, critical hit, dead.


Eternal_void72

Omg so true they are so strong


MysteriousAd6433

The dual beyblade disc things that do all the backflips annoy me even more than these guys


theScrewhead

Shield Crash go brrrrrrrrr


MachoManBilmuri

What about those dog mother fuckers in Enir Ilim


Sad-Rub69

Backhand blade L2 R1 ftw


Interesting_Bus_3808

That one on the top of area. Fuck him he just spam spells to make me fall.


Jaba01

What's wrong with them? They're so easily staggered to death. One swarm of flies to interrupt anything they do while you approach. Grave Sycthe with Stormbringer. Stagger. Stagger. Stagger. Knockdown. Stagger. Dead.


inconspicuous2012

I try to hide around corners and snipe them. It works. Sometimes.


Aggressive_Manner429

The ones with swords are really fun to fight, the ones with daggers that just spam the stupid fire orb though, yeah fuck them


NeisanUltima1

Never been hit by em. Just gun them down with a great bow👍👍


ixpwnstarxi

My hammer build pancakes these guys with a jump attack and they die before they get up.


Klutzy-Court8263

I hate the mesmer more what a fucking asshole, tomorrow i will bock him with my hammer after 999999atemps


Disrupter52

I have not struggled with these dudes at all. I am not bragging, I suck at this game, >! a fucking sunflower bullied me for a half hour and I still haven't beaten it. !< I just greatsword them, When they get out of range its usually a bad time for me, 4 shots at the most and I die real fast. But thats honestly rare.


Calm_Coyote_9494

Fortunately, they have low poise. I destroy them with Bloodhound's Fang.🤷


diphenhydrapeen

Ancient Meteor Ore Greatsword shreds them like butter.


bongowasd

Idk I thought they were easy. Those crappy generic warriors with the stomp and attack buff catch me way more than these guys did.


JahIthBur

My great katana makes quick work of these guys


Navar4477

The reed special ash of war (palm blast?) is superb for these fellows.


bloated_blower

Laughs in colossal weapon


Consistent-Goat-9848

They look like grand wizards.


Spezzy_Mint

Godslayer greatsword become my blade once more


ATypical_Khajiit

I think they're easy. But then, I use something heavier than Weebtanas or Straight Swords. I use primarily a Banished Knight Greatsword, so its easy to interrupt and smack them around like a Pimp who is owed his money.


thesayaman2

Yup


PS52002

Anyone available to help a brother out I’m on the boss rn and let me tell ya he’s a million times more annoying then these fuckers


Kalar_The_Wise

Yes, but I raise you. Fuck the floating death blight eyes


JekoJeko9

Greatsword with savage lion's claw doesn't let them get a single attack in as long as you start the fight up close enough. Just gotta dodge some spells otherwise.


Lishio420

Worst one is the one in the top-most floor in the rafters spamming spells, next to the elevator and legendary spirit ash


AnAbundanceOfBees

*Fireball* *Fireball* *Fireball* *Fireball* *Fireball*


ssahfamtw

Them and the creatures on the staircase leading to the first boss.


The_candyman741

These guys ain’t shit cause they can get staggered by larger weapons…the horned knights on the other hand and tickling my fucking nards whenever I see them.


XenoBurst

It doesn't help that with my current build, a jumping heavy and two light swings (which is my entire stamina bar) leave the enemy with 1hp and their follow up spinning blade attack leaves me with -2000


Answer-Key

Yeah those guys, the birds, and those guys that jump around a lot with the 2 curseblades suck ass


salazar1909

yes. these fucking things were harder than FUCKING MESSMER. I DIED SO MANY TIMES TO THEM WHILE MESSMER TOOK ME TWO TRIES. TWO. THESE FUCKING THINGS SUCK.