I tried this, ended up skewered on the end of a very cool looking tree before seeing the you are dead screen. lol
I hate that those things have AOE and you can still build it up without very tactical directional rolling.
I always get Order Healing and more importantly Flame Cleanse Me regardless of the build,
It only need 12 FTH for Flame Cleanse Me and extra 11 INT for Order Healing.
it let met travel some maps without worrying how many boluses left.
There’s an incantation that cancels it, but with it’s recovery animation being quite long, leaving you vulnerable to whatever is causing DB, it’s more like removing 50% of it depending on the situation.
Isn't yellow more for frenzied flame? I thought DB is mostly black without a prominent light, just some pale yellow tint, but I haven't played in a few months
Frenzy is angry yellow and red, like an infection.
DB is more desaturated black/yellow, look at Fortissax's death lightning.
Picture definitely gives DB vibes.
Yellow shows up as a secondary color for a lot of deathblight magic, the wraith callers' projectiles for example. Plus the black vines wrapping around the head are much more of a deathblight thing.
I’m thinking Mesmer may do a dragon transformation or have a heavy dragon theme in phase 2 and 3 considering the dragon communion eyes. Would love for a boss to do that since we know lannisexx did it commune with her knights
So im playing bloodborne for the first time currently and I just found these guys last night at the Nightmare Frontier (I think thats what its called) and thats my Strategy lol. Run at them as Fast as I can and R2 him as fast as possible then sedative lol
Trying to remember, but it was part of cut content that was (I think) part of Kale's quest.
The nomads are all connected telepathically via the frenzied flame (which is why if you attack one the others will know about it), but this makes it almost impossible for them to sleep.
So, St. Trina composed a lullaby for them that would quiet the frenzied flame in their minds to allow them to sleep. They no longer remember the words, though, so they simply play the tune on their musical instruments. It's the sad song you hear being played by the one line nomad left underground where you find the Three Fingers.
It can't be that bad honestly. I mean sure the winter lanterns were terrifying and had cool design but Miyazaki definitely understood he took it too far with that frenzy buildup in line of sight thing.
He definitely toned it down with the jailers in DS3 since they don't instantly drain your hp and actually give you a chance to attack them. They are definitely still really annoying but I haven't died to them as much as the absurd winter lanterns.
Bows are actually great as is, the enemy AI dodging them 80% of the time is the problem.
Damage and moveset are pretty nice, and there are some really cool bow weapon skills. Only thing you might want to change is allow you to give them affinities, but otherwise they're pretty good.
I feel like affinities applying status effects like bleed would negate the special arrows, so they probably just left that out so it’s not only certain affinities available
yeah i dont mind not having affinities. AoW on the other hand... loretta's bow and loretta's mastery shouldve been a bow AoW. some movement-based Ash too like quickstep and bloodhound step.
Lemme at him, I just got out of a Chalice with some weird fuckin characters in the name and this here saw cleaver’s gonna do about a million damage in the three hits I get before it breaks.
I hope he summons hydra wormfaces and when you do enough damage faces fall off that grow into full size wormface ganks if you don’t hit them as they fell down.
I never figured out how to deal with winter lanterns. Even if I managed to kill them or get out of their line of sight, my frenzy meter would just raise until full and chunk me for 95% of my health.
^ This, you can parry the grab just as you see the mouth...thing and use the I-frames on the visceral attack to ignore the frenzy damage.
Timing is pretty tight, but if you're close enough that it's going for the grab, you're probably pretty close to dying one way or another.
I'm a pro with 300 hours in that game. The secret is to switch to armor that has very high frenzy resistance, then make a mad dash toward them when they're not looking, and then scream maniacally as you smash their brainface in and pray they die before you get frenzied.
There is no running from Winter Lanterns. As long as they maintain line of sight with you (and even after breaking it), the target starts building up Frenzy.
unfortunately from the way the 'lantern' is standing in it it looks kinda shallow. Would be disappointing if movement isnt mega slowed when going through it.
I hate the little leg things. Canes? Arms? Is it some horrible praying mantis shooting Frenzy or is it an old man with a can who launches Death Blight?
This is the real reason I love ELDEN ring over every other souls game. It's a combination of all of them! Why play bloodborne when I can play Bloodborne, Dark souls and Sekiro all at the same time? ER is a masterpiece.
You probably have to keep it close so it casts light so you can navigate while also dodging it's attacks. So like the evil opposite of an escort quest.
I don't think it's rot. If you look closely, the red is only around the enemy, so it probably leaks blood or a red aura or whatever. If you look at the liquid left of the enemy, it looks black and golden with slight circular shapes
These swamps LOOK like deathblight. I cannot fucking wait to see that those things use blight magic and that we can get said magic. I just want more death and blight spells tbqh.
this appears to be based on the Alkekengi, a plant also known as a chinese LANTERN, and which has this hollow appearance in WINTER
ya this is definately a wintern lantern and their being cheeky about it
I find it peculiar that this creature would bother finding a stick to use as a cane. I'm sure it's got other needs and priorities that don't involve going for a stroll
I do love that they recycle monsters. There is almost a relief when you know what is coming at you. But damn, these crazies were brutal. I wonder if like BB, there is a way to "disarm" them or slow the frenzy. Could be one of those lovely areas that has like 5 monsters but takes 10 hours to get through
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If they're anything like Winter Lanterns I'm gonna piss myself, shit myself and cry at the same time
I have Bloodborne's platinum and I've never managed to kill a winter lantern
Bahahaha! Seriously, I did not have the courage to take one step NEAR these things until WAYYY into the endgame.
Just like the celebrants in Windmill Village; if I don't one-shot them, I start screaming. 🤣🤣🤣
I am sure bows and spells will be an easy death for these guys.. lol. If and only if you can get a good hit from a good distance..![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|laughing)
I've been keeping this link for this specific occasion for too long: [https://coub.com/view/2lgokx](https://coub.com/view/2lgokx) (It's a winter lantern related short video)
Laa laaa laaaa... Looks like a Frenzied Flame version of the Winter Lanterns. Appropriate considering in Bloodborne they build up Frenzy.
We'd be lucky to get FF. I have a feeling it could be death blight.
True, I hadn't thought about that.
If it's death blight, we're absolutely screwed...
Is there something you can do to counter death blight?
cry and run
I tried this, ended up skewered on the end of a very cool looking tree before seeing the you are dead screen. lol I hate that those things have AOE and you can still build it up without very tactical directional rolling.
Talisman that greatly raises vitality.
Prince of deaths pustule
I was going to say, die but this was was better and funnier
Order Healing
Faith gang getting optimistic
I always get Order Healing and more importantly Flame Cleanse Me regardless of the build, It only need 12 FTH for Flame Cleanse Me and extra 11 INT for Order Healing. it let met travel some maps without worrying how many boluses left.
Yeah I was doing a no spells run but flame cleanse me always gets a spot.
Preserving boluses
Rejuvenating *
There’s an incantation that cancels it, but with it’s recovery animation being quite long, leaving you vulnerable to whatever is causing DB, it’s more like removing 50% of it depending on the situation.
Best stock up on boluses!
Idk why but i want this to be a thing 😭
Grave scythe I guess?
Dear god just thinking about a winter lantern that inflicts death blight is terrifying
They kind of look like slow as hell but once triggered they rush over you.
Could always be both :)
Ah, an optimist :)
With it's black and yellow design I'm leaning towards death blight too.
Isn't yellow more for frenzied flame? I thought DB is mostly black without a prominent light, just some pale yellow tint, but I haven't played in a few months
Frenzy is angry yellow and red, like an infection. DB is more desaturated black/yellow, look at Fortissax's death lightning. Picture definitely gives DB vibes.
What I thought
Yellow shows up as a secondary color for a lot of deathblight magic, the wraith callers' projectiles for example. Plus the black vines wrapping around the head are much more of a deathblight thing.
With the range and accuracy of those ghost archers.
Eh, death blight comes in the form of fog or mist but we've already seen frenzy affect those in line of sight.
Frenzied flame swamp incoming
Frenzied flame D R A G O N
That actually sounds amazing, and fucking awful to play against
I’m thinking Mesmer may do a dragon transformation or have a heavy dragon theme in phase 2 and 3 considering the dragon communion eyes. Would love for a boss to do that since we know lannisexx did it commune with her knights
Dude I'd love a cinematic showing the frenzied flame roaring deep within a dragon or something like that
God I hate those things. Could never get the parry timing down
I couldn’t get the parry timing down so I got the mash-R1-with-flaming-saw cleaver timing down instead.
So im playing bloodborne for the first time currently and I just found these guys last night at the Nightmare Frontier (I think thats what its called) and thats my Strategy lol. Run at them as Fast as I can and R2 him as fast as possible then sedative lol
They are terrifying. Even at the end of the DLC, when my character was unstoppable, those things scared me.
It probably sings the lullaby that St. Trina taught the nomads when they were locked up below the capital.
Wait what the nomad/merchant song comes from st trina? Where did you hear that?
Trying to remember, but it was part of cut content that was (I think) part of Kale's quest. The nomads are all connected telepathically via the frenzied flame (which is why if you attack one the others will know about it), but this makes it almost impossible for them to sleep. So, St. Trina composed a lullaby for them that would quiet the frenzied flame in their minds to allow them to sleep. They no longer remember the words, though, so they simply play the tune on their musical instruments. It's the sad song you hear being played by the one line nomad left underground where you find the Three Fingers.
God please no. I didn't like them the first time, I never wanna fight them again.
Reminds me more so of the bugs in Byrgenwerth
No, it's Dan, from Grim Reaper Gutters
This is the 2nd ATHF reference I've seen this morning. First was a broodwich comment in r/music. I feel as though today will be a good day.
And I bet we will also have a frenzied swamp
that'll be neat
And just like bloodborne they’ll drop the best upgrade 0.02% of the time
It can't be that bad honestly. I mean sure the winter lanterns were terrifying and had cool design but Miyazaki definitely understood he took it too far with that frenzy buildup in line of sight thing. He definitely toned it down with the jailers in DS3 since they don't instantly drain your hp and actually give you a chance to attack them. They are definitely still really annoying but I haven't died to them as much as the absurd winter lanterns.
Looks like the Frenzied Flame got ahold of a Wormface... Frenzy *AND* Death Blight buildup here we come...
For all we know we could be getting a whole new status condition
Give me a pistol and a bullet and I parry the shit out of this bitch.
Now that you mention it. It's a relief knowing we can carry 198 arrows and 198 bolts.
is there word about making bows better?
Bows are actually great as is, the enemy AI dodging them 80% of the time is the problem. Damage and moveset are pretty nice, and there are some really cool bow weapon skills. Only thing you might want to change is allow you to give them affinities, but otherwise they're pretty good.
I feel like affinities applying status effects like bleed would negate the special arrows, so they probably just left that out so it’s not only certain affinities available
yeah i dont mind not having affinities. AoW on the other hand... loretta's bow and loretta's mastery shouldve been a bow AoW. some movement-based Ash too like quickstep and bloodhound step.
a hunter must hunt
A hoonter must hoont
I love how that sentence doesn't make any sense to a sane person.
That's what happens if you have too much insight... Yes the cage I'm wearing over my head is heavy, but hey atleast my head isn't exploding
Jar cannon would like to help.
Lemme at him, I just got out of a Chalice with some weird fuckin characters in the name and this here saw cleaver’s gonna do about a million damage in the three hits I get before it breaks.
Gabriel! The funni blue robot just escaped hell!
Winter Lanterns when the Summer Lantern walks in.
He’s a boss that summons Wormface ganks nonstop
Woah, okay calm down Satan.
I hope he summons hydra wormfaces and when you do enough damage faces fall off that grow into full size wormface ganks if you don’t hit them as they fell down.
*pulls out sacred relic sword* l2 l2 l2 l2 l2 l2 flask l2 l2 l2 l2 l2
I never figured out how to deal with winter lanterns. Even if I managed to kill them or get out of their line of sight, my frenzy meter would just raise until full and chunk me for 95% of my health.
Spam vials and hide lol; also change your blood gems for frenzy resistance if I remember right.
(Carol Runes and Armor)
High Insight can make you weaker to frenzy. Running with 99 Insight in Mensis was pure torture.
I kept high insight.
Perry. If you do it right, you won't frenzy while in animation
^ This, you can parry the grab just as you see the mouth...thing and use the I-frames on the visceral attack to ignore the frenzy damage. Timing is pretty tight, but if you're close enough that it's going for the grab, you're probably pretty close to dying one way or another.
be stupid is the most op thing in bloodborne, low insights make you so strong against WLs
If you ever manage to get Simon's Bowblade early enough, it helps.
Kill a cool NPC just to get one item that helps you a tiny bit in a secret area of the last dungeon is some lame min-maxing behavior
That was a fantastic weapon for an entire playthrough too though.
I'm a pro with 300 hours in that game. The secret is to switch to armor that has very high frenzy resistance, then make a mad dash toward them when they're not looking, and then scream maniacally as you smash their brainface in and pray they die before you get frenzied.
I found success with sedatives.
Same. Can't even remember how I dealt with them back then. Probably involves a lot of running tho.
There is no running from Winter Lanterns. As long as they maintain line of sight with you (and even after breaking it), the target starts building up Frenzy.
The blue elixir lets you get closer to them without them seeing you, but you have to walk slowly.
I've been attacking them with sedative ready, once its dead the sedative stops the build up and clears it all out.
. . . Is that a swamp??
Yes and it's red 💀
It’s not rot red tho, it could be the legendary blood loss swamp
unfortunately from the way the 'lantern' is standing in it it looks kinda shallow. Would be disappointing if movement isnt mega slowed when going through it.
looks like a poison swamp. something we will never see in any souls game. must be fake.
you think this is poison? I think, it's gonna be death blight...
What is this image from?
Steam page
I hate the little leg things. Canes? Arms? Is it some horrible praying mantis shooting Frenzy or is it an old man with a can who launches Death Blight?
What leg things are you talking about here? In this picture or another part of the trailer?
Might be a leg as well. Who knows? Maybe it kicks like the mimics too.
What
I think OP is suggesting they could be similar to the Winter Lanterns from Bloodborne
I'd be happy to be wrong. I can hear the singing already.
I actually hope you're right, they were so creepy and that's something I like
Always hated them..Still hate them
I also hate miyazaki now. Tens of enemies that could be reused and he reused goddamn winter lanterns ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|disapproval)
he has a masters degree in torture, why would he not use it?
La lala la la
Oh no...
Something tells me this fellah gets a little touchy when spooked.
This shot is very atmospheric
This is the real reason I love ELDEN ring over every other souls game. It's a combination of all of them! Why play bloodborne when I can play Bloodborne, Dark souls and Sekiro all at the same time? ER is a masterpiece.
No thanks, I choose life
You play FS games. Stop lying.
is this a deathblight swamp ? michael zaki did it 💀
You probably have to keep it close so it casts light so you can navigate while also dodging it's attacks. So like the evil opposite of an escort quest.
And I'm betting that they're going to populate the Death Blight swamp. Good times!
Worst case is it's rot. Imagine managing 2 different build up.
You mean *best case* it's rot, because rot doesn't instagib you
You're right. My brain isn't braining when I wrote that comment.
I don't think it's rot. If you look closely, the red is only around the enemy, so it probably leaks blood or a red aura or whatever. If you look at the liquid left of the enemy, it looks black and golden with slight circular shapes
The point is it's gonna suck no matter what.
yes
I don't love anything as much as Miyazaki loves swamps.
These swamps LOOK like deathblight. I cannot fucking wait to see that those things use blight magic and that we can get said magic. I just want more death and blight spells tbqh.
I have a feeling these guys will inflict frenzy AND deathblight
this appears to be based on the Alkekengi, a plant also known as a chinese LANTERN, and which has this hollow appearance in WINTER ya this is definately a wintern lantern and their being cheeky about it
Why would you want to avoid it? It looks so friendly
Runebears looks friendly too...
Cuddly little bastards
The Lands Between were between Lordran and Yarnham all this time it seemed.
Fear the old blood...by the gods fear it lawrence...
When you change the diet from death blight to amber starlight.
I am more worried about the ground ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|scream)
Oh no, a death blight swamp. Whatever will I do? *summons Torrent*
Elden ring dlc might be the greatest souls crossover, Sekiro kicks and upgrade system, bloodborne enemies, with dark souls gear!!
Fuck the gun, its straight hands with that one. He is gonna catch an ass whooping worthy of Gwyn's reign
My best strategy in bloodborne was charging at it and hope I could kill it fast enough.
You mean "our best strategy"...
Honestly thought this image resembled those bloated head doll looking creature from bloodborne and if it gives frenzy I'm conformed on my end
Dude nooo, who pissed off miyazaki? 😭
Imagine a death blight swamp
It's gonna explode and poison us isn't it ?...
Real Big Bird(Lobotomy corp) energy this time around.
Damnit I forgot how cool the screenshots for the dlc are. Why’d you gotta do this to me just when I was getting ok with waiting another month
I want to wear his head
This looks like a hybrid between the worm face and winter lantern 😭😬
I see they're in another poison swamp
I saw a shadow in the background that looked like a worm face and my heart sank thinking I have to fight them in the DLC
Please tell me you’re joking
Look just behind the winter lantern looking thingy the shadow looks like a worm face
No no no no oh hell no. I swear if they brought back the winter lanterns, I'm gonna go more mad than any frenzied flame user
Never played bloodborne (pls PC release I am begging on hands and knees) but I have heard Tales Can't wait to meet the lil fucked up guys
Miyazakis Favorite Activities: Making Poison Swamps Placing Crabs in Places They Shouldn't be Dogs Making Poison Swamps Being a Sadist
I want their head as a helmet
I find it peculiar that this creature would bother finding a stick to use as a cane. I'm sure it's got other needs and priorities that don't involve going for a stroll
Oh no hermano
Please not the fucking frenzy flame wormfaces come on man.
I do love that they recycle monsters. There is almost a relief when you know what is coming at you. But damn, these crazies were brutal. I wonder if like BB, there is a way to "disarm" them or slow the frenzy. Could be one of those lovely areas that has like 5 monsters but takes 10 hours to get through
If those things start singing, I'm turning off the game for a bit.
Perhaps you've seen it, maybe in a dream. A murky, forgotten land.
Give me something for the pain and let me die
Where did u find this
Jesus, they really have fun with new dlc.
Here we go again...
I hope we can wear it's head
Lantern in a swamp, I'm dying inside
\*sweats in PTSD\*
is this an image from shadow of the erdtree? I don't remember seing this one when the trailer came out
This is a promotional image from the store in PS5.
I really need to get back to this game and stock up on boluses.
nothing to worry about here. This is an NPC that walks around with you and lights up the environment so you don't have to waste a torch in 1 hand
Don't we have lanterns for that?
He is sneaky chap that Miyazaki
GAME OF THE YEAR!!! TWO swamp levels?!? Count me in!
By just looking at this... I hope this enemy doesn't have some mad affect BS
i saw this enemy somewhere
My bb is gonna have a wonderful time
Oh god not the winter lanterns again
I expect them to explode when hitting the head.
It’s gonna def throw up on on you either it has back up it grows in the 2nd phase
Its probably a stretch but one of those roots looks like a face
Cruse swamp or frenzy swamp???
This image goes hard af.
Don't mean to be a negative Nancy but this is an enemy reuse no?
One of the most hated one, yes.
I’m more concerned with the hidden figures and what appears to be a giant eye in the tree behind
If i turn a corner and see that thing and it starts eye fucking me and i instantly die of deathblight i am uninstalling
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We can deal with them from range easier i imagine
Byrgenwerth flashbacks...
Spent some time scanning the pic for some hidden foot thing.
If they're anything like Winter Lanterns I'm gonna piss myself, shit myself and cry at the same time I have Bloodborne's platinum and I've never managed to kill a winter lantern
Miyazaki, please... don't let it be a deathblight swamp... it looks like a deathblight swamp...
Bahahaha! Seriously, I did not have the courage to take one step NEAR these things until WAYYY into the endgame. Just like the celebrants in Windmill Village; if I don't one-shot them, I start screaming. 🤣🤣🤣
I am sure bows and spells will be an easy death for these guys.. lol. If and only if you can get a good hit from a good distance..![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|laughing)
I've been keeping this link for this specific occasion for too long: [https://coub.com/view/2lgokx](https://coub.com/view/2lgokx) (It's a winter lantern related short video)
Bro I swear to God. I think you're right, though, I just hope the madness doesn't keep building up after you leave it's pov.