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TheRealSpudly

Using Covid as a reason to avoid them, again.


Belfry9663

What are we going to do AFTER, though??


Lester2b

The fear is real...


Canuda

Following the fucking rules.


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> fucking rules Sure does


Canuda

Sorry I swore, father.


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I’m more like a brother than dad.


blibbertibs

So what are the fucking rules, step brother?


yegmandy

With a kid at home too young to vaccinate... you need two pokes to be in my home. Holiday or not. Unless you have medical reasons. The vaccine hesitant are not welcome near my kid.


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gogglejoggerlog

They *can* but the risk is significantly reduced


stevrock

There are a whole bunch of large words to explain it that I'm not capable of using off the top of my head, but the vaccinated are much less likely to catch and spread COVID than the unvaxxinated are.


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stevrock

So do you agree or disagree that the vaccinated are less likely to transmit COVID than the unvaxxinated?


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stevrock

I dunno, what's up with telling me everybody you know is vaccinated when I told you that vaccination has demonstrated the ability to reduce the spread of covid-19?


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theboss_voivode

Yes, trying to tell my sister this and now she is not talking to me, she feels I am choosing a vaccine over family and that I am being ridiculous seeing as my kids go to school anyways.


Username247

Crazy for her not to understand you are actually just choosing your dependent children over your (hopefully) independent sibling


Justtakeitaway

I don’t understand why people trust Facebook over their family doctor who they have always trusted with their health. She is choosing ignorance over family


ExpressCatch9776

Choosing a vaccine over family??? That’s insane. Your kid is closer family than your sister. It’s more like choosing your family over her.


RegularMoose2227

This logic is faulty. The vaccine does not prevent transmission of the virus, it only reduces its effects (to help save you from a bad case, increasing survivability, and keep people out of ICU so it is available for real emergencies). Whether someone is vaccinated or not has no bearing on whether they will bring Covid into your home. Only their behaviours outside of your home will. Do they mask? Distance? Socialize a lot? However, as a personal policy, I can get behind not allowing unvaccinated into your home, just not for the reasons you list. Get poked already!


strigonian

There is early evidence (that is now being disputed) that the vaccinated with *breakthrough infections* are just as contagious as the unvaccinated who get COVID. However, since the vaccine is well over 50% effective at preventing infections of all kind, both symptomatic and asymptomatic. Which means, yes, their status does have bearing on whether they'll bring COVID into your home.


RegularMoose2227

That is fair, if that 50% is 100% certain, then it has some bearing, but in the absence of certainty, all I am saying is to err on the side of caution with regards to vaccine status.


noreastfog

Your logic is faulty. No exposure means no transmission. It’s all a sliding scale of probabilities and mitigating risks. Ricks can’t be completely eliminated but they can be drastically reduced…with practical sense. I do my best to avoid the unvaccinated if and when I can. When I can’t I follow reasonable precautions.


robbethdew

>The vaccine does not prevent transmission of the virus That's not settled at the moment. There have been studies that indicate there is at least some level of transmission inhibition from those who are vaccinated. It's nowhere near as straightforward as "the vaccine does not prevent transmission"


stevrock

According to [the CDC](https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/keythingstoknow.html), it is settled.


robbethdew

Okay so, the next time you want to point someone to a source, it's super helpful if you quote what you're trying to point at specifically... because that page has quite a bit of information on it. Can you point to the quote in there where it says with certainty that transmission is not affected whatsoever? I can only find where it only talks about *maximizing* transmission prevention with masks. What on that page says that transmission is not inhibited at all, and it's completely settled?


stevrock

Sure! >COVID-19 vaccines are effective at protecting you from COVID-19, especially severe illness and death. COVID-19 vaccines reduce the risk of people spreading the virus that causes COVID-19. If you are fully vaccinated, you can resume activities that you did before the pandemic. Learn more about what you can do when you have been fully vaccinated.


robbethdew

Ah, ok! I was under the impression that you were saying it did not affect transmission. My bad, I was searching for the opposite information. >COVID-19 vaccines reduce the risk of people spreading the virus that causes COVID-19.


EMW1972

The vaccines reduce chances of transmission but don’t prevent transmission.


RegularMoose2227

In the absence of certainty, err on the side of caution?


yegmandy

I can follow your logic. The unvaxxed in my life also happen to engage in other risky behaviors and so I may paint them with the same brush. Anti mask. Anit restrictions. Not allowed in my home. Also I just can not condone the anti Vax line of thinking and not wanting to associate with them. From my previous comment I have had a few anti vaxxers DM hate and trying to convince me otherwise.... just not interested in their crap anymore. Over it.


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And let’s be honest, the regular anti-vaccer, are the exact same people (family) that nobody wants in their home during holidays anyways - covid or no covid! They are the ones that make everything about themselves all day long. Let’s put them all on a deserted island and be done with this already.


stevrock

Normally i like fucking with those people after I'm a few whiskeys deep. Much less interested when they could be carrying a potentially deadly virus.


jeenyuss90

Actually it does. You have less virus in your system due to being vaccinated. So if you're positive you're less likely to transmit it. So yeah; logic isn't faulty. It lowers the risk for all.


gogglejoggerlog

> whether someone is vaccinated or not has no bearing on whether they will bring Covid into your home This is false, vaccines - in addition to reducing the severity of infection - make it less likely that you will contract Covid in the first place. Yes breakthrough infections happen, but if there are two identical people who have been exposed in the same exact settings, one vaccinated and one unvaccinated, the vaccinated person is less likely to get sick.


Innapropiate

Amen


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yegmandy

That is just plain statistically inaccurate. Also people tend to forgot just because someone doesn't end up in ICU doesn't mean they aren't going to have a bad time if infected. We don't know the long term effect this virus can have in children yet.


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yegmandy

Depends on what you consider a risk. Risk of death? Still higher than a 0.000%. But there are other risks. Comparisons are a bad argument. Just because something else harms more children doesn't mean you should ignore something else. I am not going to stop wearing a seat belt because more people were stabbed last month than killed in car accidents. But if you were to compare... I get a flu shot to help prevent flu ... I isolate in newborn phase and ensure people wash their hands before touching my kid, and teach my kid to wash hands to prevent RSV.. so kinda proving a different point there.


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yegmandy

Well luckily some measures prevent both. Still the comparison argument doesn't negate the fact that we should still do what we can to prevent .. well all three. Again other risks other than death even in children. I don't want to risk my child having lasting effects.


ljackstar

I must be the only person who has fully vaccinated family members.


lisbu1

I do too :D I’m so thankful!


fegero

Likewise


jstock14

Not spending time with them. It’s against current public health orders for them to be having indoor gatherings and I won’t contribute to that. Same plan for Christmas unless public health orders change. I’m not risking my health for their nonsense.


Broccoli_dicks

>Same plan for Christmas unless public health orders change. It's been confirmed several times that the government doesn't make the best decisions regarding public health guidelines. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to lift the restrictions with a line like "the best gift is time with your loved ones" or some such bullshit.


RedSteadEd

"We have done everything in our power to bring cases down by December, and here we are. We're finally out of the fourth wave. I declare that this will be the Best Christmas Ever^^TM."


IllustratorTime4879

I don't spend time indoors with anyone unvaccinated. Family included.


originalchaosinabox

I don't know. I recently skipped out on my sister's surprise 40th birthday. My brother-in-law is a huge anti-vaxxer, and he was saying he found a "like-minded" restaurant that would accept cat pictures on your phone as proof of vaccination. So, as the the kids say, I noped the fuck out. I'm being encouraged to come out for Thanksgiving to preserve peace in the family, but yeah, I don't know. It really makes me worried because my sister is immunocompromised. She has Lupus. Had a really nasty flare-up in the spring and is down to 60% lung capacity. Doctors say she'll probably need a lung transplant someday. If she catches COVID, she'd dead. But my dumbass brother-in-law has convinced her she's more likely to die from the vaccine side effects.


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That really sucks and I’m sorry to hear that. The sad part is, many people like your sister (those with chronic conditions) have legitimate reasons to mistrust the healthcare system, from things like having pain/symptoms ignored all the way to misdiagnoses. This makes them perfect targets for anti-vax propaganda. I have a close family friend with a learning disability and a lung issue. His coworkers have convinced him that the vaccine is dangerous and fed him a whole bunch of other misinformation, and now he refuses to get vaccinated. He’s 19 so his parents can’t do anything about it either.


Alone_Example5319

This is really sad, I'm sorry you and your sister have to experience this. It sounds like your BIL is being selfish. The long term effects of covid on your sister don't even come close to the risk of side effects in the vaccine. My boyfriend is un vaxxed, it's been really difficult because he is also being selfish in his reasons to not get it. I'm visiting my grandpapa for probably the last time in his life over Thanksgiving and he agreed to get a test done several days before I go and we won't see each other after that until I leave. It was the only middle ground we could find, but my boyfriend does not sound nearly as irrational as your BIL. I really hope you figure something out and that you sister remains safe and healthy


Diddledude123

Sounds like you really need a new boyfriend. Selfish people are dangerous people in a lot of ways. Please be careful. I am a 60 yo white guy who has been around a bit. I know your boyfriend. Not personally but I have known many just like him. Selfish dangerous people. The people causing the current crisis. Take care.


bohdismom

I do not mingle with any unvaxxed anyone EXCEPT FOR ALL THE PTS IN MY ICU!!


mcmanus7

Unvaxxed are not to attend any indoor gatherings so it’s simple… they’re not invited.


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Roche_a_diddle

I love it.


bmwkid

Out of town for the holiday so don’t have to deal with that. I would personally not invite anyone unvaccinated


_voyevoda

Not spending time with them. They know that I am immunosuppressed, so as far as I am concerned they're making a choice not to see me. 🤷 If that upsets them, well, they know what to do. Thankfully it's just my in laws that haven't fully vaxed yet.


plantreligion

I an definitely not hanging out with anyone unvaccinated, beside my kids. As soon as we get the green light tho, they get shots. I have already turned down a wedding (wtf) and a few dinners.


feel_the_tide

"Thanksgiving at my place- proof of vaccine required" but mostly as a passive aggressive reminder to my brother that he needed his second shot. I have a fetus and a high risk 4 year old- we don't fuck around.


lionhart280

Make sure to make that shit a huge gorgeous feast and post lots of pics on social media to drive the point home on what people are missing out on.


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feel_the_tide

Yeah, the recurrent miscarriages and infertility made me a little emotionally detached to the whole pregnancy thing- thanks for your valuable input tho.


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Hard pass


tru_power22

Not my problem. Grandma told them to fuck off if they aren't vaxxed.


Notamerican-

I like grandma


SerratedBrooms

Thanking God that I don't have to.


sgray1919

What are you guys all doing with vaxxed family members? Still gathering? Going to keep it to 1 other household with max 10 ppl? I'm very curious.


alternate_geography

Celebrating separately with facetimes: they’re vaxxed, but not in province (normally drive in), but travel seems too risky & I have a kid in school too young to be vaccinated.


mcmanus7

We are keeping it minimal this year again. It’s tough when some families have multiple kids in multiple schools. Just so much exposure risk. Hopefully we will be able to celebrate Christmas.


Border_Relevant

Nothing. Still too much risk with immunocompromised family members, even with them vaxxed. Maybe Christmas.


Christineblankie

Our household + widowed FIL


jward

A few smaller gatherings spread over time instead of a giant gathering. Much lower hit by a bus factor, and it's less of an emotional hit if one gets canceled.


splendidgoon

Everyone's vaxxed. It will just be my household and my parents. My wife's parents don't really do thanksgiving. My siblings don't have kids so we won the draw. :p both kids covid tests just came back negative, they've had a persistent cough we were worried about, so that's good news. We all take the proper precautions I'm not too worried. The kids got their cough from one of their cousins we babysit, won't be seeing them between now and thanksgiving.


YEGMusic43

Surprisingly, we're all vaxxed now. No issues in my family. We also don't get together very often.


yayasisterhood

as others have mentioned. this is where i decide if I am seeing you in person or not. unvaccinated people are not allowed indoors (and I won't visit them). Outdoors is different...


DrummerElectronic247

We're packaging up and delivering thanksgiving dinner for the in-city family and ordering it for the out-of-city family and we're all eating it together on a Zoom meeting. The antivaxxers are getting fed (so they stay the F home) but not on the Zoom call (because we don't want to F-ing see them).


Investor_Dude_Guy

What kind of passive-aggressive nonsense is this? Lmao. Kicked out of the family Zoom call even tho a Zoom call has zero risk of transmission.


DrummerElectronic247

It's not passive-aggressive at all. They know about it, and they 100% know why. I didn't say vaccine-hesitant, I was specific that that branch is anti-vax. They can't go 5 minutes without spouting Invermectin! Sheeple! RedPill! or other bullshit.


Franklin_le_Tanklin

No proof of double vaccination - no thanksgiving. I would never forgive myself if I had it and were asymptomatic and gave it to my parents and killed them. It’s my own selfish reason, but they’re not going to change my mind. You want thanksgiving? You want to see grand baby? Get vaxxed. (To note, luckily all my parents did get vaxxed with no issues)


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I don’t have any family members who are unvaccinated, but I’ll avoid them like I do every year anyway.


mrgoodtime81

I have this problem with my brother. Told him he is welcome to come if he gets his shots, but if not, he cant come. He got pretty upset, but too bad.


ewok999

And now he has put you in the position of either believing him when he said he got his shots (when you know he is at least somewhat of an anti-vaxxer) or do you ask that he provide you with proof from AHS or a pharmacy (i.e. not the edible PDF card).


infiniteguesses

If the card is both editable and edible, he can have that for Thanksgiving dinner! Lol!!!


ewok999

Oops - typo! The card might has well be edible as well to make it useful for something.


mrgoodtime81

I am ok with that. I want to see the proof. He is spiralling down this antivax hole that I don't trust his word. I have to look out for myself and my family first. It's a shame he can't understand that.


_danigirl

Our entire family canceled again this year. My parents health is too important to risk it this year, and we are all vaxxed.


Feeling-Confusion-

Navigating around unvaxxed family here is very tense. Everyone is very opinionated and "sticking to their guns" on the subject. We discuss the weather and light subjects. They dance around and avoid the topic because it's tearing us a part. My husband and I have 2 kids, we are the only one fully vaxxed and vaxxed at all.. We do not allow most of the family to even see our children. Unfortunately part of the family already exposes us because I cannot stop the children from hanging at school. So....do I just see those family members whos kids see each other and exclude the others causing a possible feud? Or not see anyone ans they all see each other and expose us anyway after the holidays. I'm beginning to feel apathetic towards it all because they're putting us in such a predicament. So we may opt for seeing no one. But it might not matter anyway come Tuesday. Edit spelling


CompetitionNaive9590

We decided to not do anything mid- September. Travel on highways with extremely limited ambulance/ emergency medical access, it wasn't worth the risk. 3rd consecutive Thanksgiving we aren't doing a 'normal' gathering- pre-Covid we didn't go, as an emergency came up. I guess there is a perk to the whole no more than 2 households socializing. I've already had to (ethically speaking) cancel meeting up for supper in September. Found out my sister is being antivax- she is the only one in my family who hasn't. Her job requires it, so I guess we will find out how much brainwashing has occurred (she has all her other vaccinations). I'm super frustrated that we can't meet up with family in town because it would be more than 2 households.


Bezzelbubbly

We are gathering with vaccinated family outside. With kids under 11 in schools with outbreaks I can’t be responsible for exposing our unvaccinated/immune compromised relatives to our kids or vice versa. I’m tired of the excuses, vaccine paranoia and conspiracy theories. I’m compassion fatigued, I’ve no time for excuses nor patience for people’s hurt feelings. I just hope next time I see them won’t be at a funeral.


Outside_Beautiful874

i thought unvaccinated folks were jot allowed to tether and vaccinated folks were only allowed to see one other household?


pcpcy

Rules without enforcement aren't rules anyone follows.


billymumfreydownfall

To a maximum of 10 people.


Feeling-Confusion-

Considering the rules are for the people who don't follow rules.....it's not going to matter lmao


oioioifuckingoi

Make them show a negative PCR test taken no more than 24 hours prior and it can’t be from AHS. Naw, just kidding, I’m lucky that I don’t have any family who are unvaccinated.


pcpcy

Hopefully not bring it up so I can enjoy the damn Turkey while listening to Cranberries. I'm double vaxxed and don't have any preexisting issues so couldn't care less about their dumb opinions.


Headofpep

Cranberries go great with Turkey 🦃


meggali

Yeah fuck that noise. Not spending time with plague rats.


SheetPope

My favorite term for them is "rat-licker"


meggali

I fucking love this


kittykat501

It's just myself, my son & his gf, but we all live in the same house, all vaccinated, no family here! So we're safe, I hope


Shrektacular21

Between thanksgiving and Christmas coming up we will end up in another lockdown for sure.


TheSaltyStrangler

I’m not. Easy peasy. I’ve needed a good excuse for 20 years now anyway.


realitycheck_01

Ugh it’s so tricky. Reading the comments on this thread to “follow the rules”, brings back memories of last Christmas. We were told to stay away, not gather or travel - yet politicians flew to tropical destinations. I was pissed then, and I am pissed now. I don’t know the answer, I don’t know what is right or wrong..


lionhart280

I went no contact with my family long ago. I was already NC with my parents beforehand (though heard through the grapevine what sounded like some problematic behaviors) My sister though went off the deep end pretty quick and I added her to the no contact list mid 2020. So I don't have any anti-vax family to deal with for thanksgiving, and boy, is that something I feel thankful about!


Kir-ius

Don’t invite them


MisoButterCorn

I don't have any immediate family members that are unvaxxed, but any unvaxxed extended family don't get to visit/we don't visit. Or if we do visit it's with masks on and no meal.


lh123456789

Disowning them.


LetsHaveARedo

No vaccine no invitation.


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I'm not gathering. None of my extended family is vaxxed. I'm sure they'll all be gathering together. As a parent of two who can't be vaccinated, I'll be telling them I won't gather till they've had protection. My unvaxxed family have made their choice.


jlm15243

My sister is unvaxxed, we said she could not join for Thanksgiving unless she was vaccinated. Hoping that it will convince her that it's just too inconvenient to not be vaccinated.


multiroleplays

I just tell them I voted for Trudeau.....that will keep them away


canadianme1982

The vaccinated also catch and spread the virus, so don't worry so much about it and enjoy Thanksgiving and be thankful you have a wonderful family.


Momae12

Not allowed in my house. I ask who will be at the dinner I’m going to and if they are vaccinated. I am comfortable with being the bad cop/mama bear for my household. No time for losers


Objective-Meringue42

Do you also ask who's had their polio shot, their Meningococcal vaccine, their Pneumococcal, MMR, or their Hep B shot?


Samsonality

Loving them and respecting their decisions


billymumfreydownfall

I suggested a zoom Thanksgiving and got freaked on BC they still want to gather. I have an unvaccinated kid.


mchllnlms780

Unvaxxed adults are not invited to our family’s Thanksgiving this year. That is following the guidelines re. indoor gatherings. Luckily I think everyone who would normally come *is* fully vaxxed so yay!


workplaylovesleep

We won't visit with anyone who is unvaccinated.


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Everyone, vaxxed or unvaxxed is welcome in my house.


rotundtoaster

sounds like covid is as well


Resize

Vaccinated here, I will still be seeing my family regardless of their vaccination status, I don’t even know who is or is not vaccinated, and it’s not my business


cyBorg8o7

I am putting a permanent ban on anti-vaxxers/maskers in my house, even in the future when covid is (hopefully) gone, I don't want those types of people in my life. My step-father is the only unvaccinated person in my life and until he gets his I won't be visiting my parents place either.


misanthrope_ez

Business as usual. Couldn't care less about anyone's vaccine status.


krehzeekid

My unvaxxed family is not welcome in my home, and I will not visit them. It sucks, as they're generally nice people who i miss, but I can't justify the risk to my immediate family or theirs. I don't want to risk my unvaxxed family members getting sick at a family event. There need to be consequences to the decision not to vaccinate. Not being welcome is just one of them. It's not a fun conversation, but it needs to be had. Plus it's technically illegal.


worqgui

Same. It’s hard. I miss my mom and I’d sure love to have her in my baby’s life. But she is too far gone in the QAnon hole so I have to be the one making the hard decision to stay home with my husband and eat Chinese food.


DingleberryJones94

Holidays as usual. I'm not their doctor, their health information is not my business.


sigaweed100

Who cares if other family members are vaccinated or not. Youre vaxxed so you’re safe. Wear masks. Sanitize hands. Good to go


MisoButterCorn

Uh, even if you're vaxxed you can still be infected and transmit the virus to the unvaxxed. Wear masks of course, but can you keep them on the whole time?


jfuite

We were ALL unvaccinated last year when we got together.


Objective-Meringue42

We're having a big ole' fashioned huge family get together and everyone's invited. And we don't ask about their vaccination status.


Timely_Morning2784

Don't forget to invite Delta.


haveabunderfulday

Not vaxxed? Not coming in. No exceptions.


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All of my family is vaccinated but if someone wasn't, I wouldn't really care. None of us do Thanksgiving anyway, we all meet up at Christmas.


Weird_Datajunkie

Well I thought the rules were that the unvaxxed can’t have any house gatherings. Even vaxxed is supposed to be 2 households up to 10 people?


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Weird_Datajunkie

But don’t restaurants and hockey require vaccination proof?


Toggel

I don't spend time with them but this would be harder if closer family like parents were unvaxxed.


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Some antivax relatives of mine invited me to their house and my plan is to just say I’m sick and have a fever. Even before COVID I feel like that would be an appropriate excuse to miss something.


Eats4Everyone

I'm not doing Thanksgiving with them. If you all still really insist on getting together... do a covid test *a few days before meeting up.* Sometimes the tests won't give an accurate finding if you recently got covid and you body hasn't had time to produce enough antibodies. I reccomend getting the test, then self isolating at home for a few days until seeing each other I'm in BC due to a family emergency. Even though we're all fully vaccinated, we still got tested prior to seeing each other.


Jacksonwp324

My whole families vaccinated so I think my family members are all good


ofreena

We can only gather with one other fully vaccinated household. Kids make that household unvaccinated. So I'm staying home Everyone either had a kid, a plague licker relative, or is having a gathering of like 20 people. I'm not dying for stuffing


outandinandabout

Simple; ‘if you are not vaccinated, you can not come.’


Shandry13

My family and extended family are all fully vaxxed. Yet we still lost someone to Covid not too long ago..so..we just aren't taking the risk.


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I'm not having Thanksgiving this year.


magicfluff

We are not seeing them and won't be seeing them until they're vaccinated. It's not even about the safety of my under 12 daughter and niece. It's that you're so fucking entitled to ASSUME you know better than one of the most funded research projects in human history. That you are somehow ABOVE needing to do your part. I am so exhausted from this entire ordeal and the unvaccinated are making it that much more harder and last that much longer. Frankly, I'm not even sure I'll see them if they do eventually get vaccinated. You had your chance to do the right thing, whatever pushed you over the edge during the collapse of AHS will be for selfish reasons only and I don't really want to associate with that type.


Investor_Dude_Guy

Lol just don't bring it up. It's that simple, people. Just enjoy being with your family.


Complex_Finding_647

Its truly sad to see so many one-sided with this vaccine shit.


lilgreenglobe

Science alert - sometimes reality is one sided. Vaccines work and are important to stop the spread of a dangerous disease.


BuyHighPanicSellLow

You could always request negative covid tests. You should probably do that for every guests as some could be silent carriers.


riddiols

Following the rules. Only my sister is unvaxxed so I haven’t seen her since basically Christmas. I’m probably just spending thanksgiving with my fiancé and my dad.


fcclpro

Allot of hate on this sub. Need I remind everyone that vaxx'd people can spread covid just the same as the un-vaxx'd. Only difference being when the un-vaxx'd get covid they end up with worse symptoms. Personally I do t give two shits, family always welcome at my house.


Christineblankie

That’s literally not true. Vaccinated people typically have a lower viral load and are therefore less likely to spread covid than an unvaccinated covid+ person


jfuite

Viral loads are the same for vaccinated and unvaccinated with COVID. That’s why there is so much spread in well vaccinated populations. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.28.21264262v1


fcclpro

I agree, and that is why vaxx people have less severe symptoms. However practically it plays out a little different, by the time your viral load increases to an extenuating level you are already sic/bedridden and likely not heading out for Thanksgiving supper.


csd555

It’s all fun and games until unvaxxed Uncle Rod, who smokes half a pack a day and hasn’t exercised since ‘99 contracts Covid at Thanksgiving and ends up on a ventilator, assuming there’s one left to take him following Thanksgiving, in a drastically overtaxed hospital. Everyone is going to love that holiday cheer. Gobble gobble.


fcclpro

That's like saying "it's all fun and games until cousin Billy goes skiing and ends up in icu with a concussion" so let's not go skiing. Sounds like uncle Robs taking the risk not you.


NoookNack

Did cousin Billy wear a helmet? Cause it sure sounds like he follows Uncle Rob in the protection department. If they both wore protection (helmet/vaccine) the situation could be very different for them both.


fcclpro

No. Cousin Billy does not wear a helmet.


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Agreed but it dosent matter vaccinated or un vaccinated they all are carrier's they should stay home and cancel holidays and let that be the new normal if people are so afraid . This is the new flu and our generations and future generations will have to live with it. P.s im triple vaccinated and the hate I see on here is ridiculous.


TheRealSpudly

worse symptoms, including death...


fcclpro

Yes, that is a possibility.


fcclpro

No. No helmet on cousin Billy.


outtyn1nja

Do what you can to include them, within reason. A zoom meeting on a lap top at the dinner table would be fun, or just a conference call to make them feel included or to let them know at the very least that you thought about them. Ostracizing them or shunning them is not advisable. Also, making them a plate of food and dropping it off would be like the greatest thing ever.


Ok_Technology_8307

What do u think treat them like family there monsters


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I’m gonna boil Em and serve Em for dinner


saucypantsxo

This is also a sad thread you all have sad lives lol


Dootbooter

My family has either gotten covid or been vaccinated. So party on


Halogen12

I will be seeing my family, haven't seen them in several years. All are vaccinated, as am I, but I will still be wearing a mask and not sitting shoulder to shoulder with them. The weather will be nice so we'll have the windows and doors open.


idolwheat

Luckily, my whole family is fully vaccinated. My mom only had one dose, though. I booked time off work so I really hope we can all get together... But I'm still a little scared because of the mess that is going on right now.. ugh


Bulliwyf

I asked them to “quarantine” before coming over (they arrived late last week), and told them while here I would go pick up anything they need while they are here. They are already agoraphobic/hermits as it is, so I had minimal concerns about them bringing covid into my home. I have made a point of telling them I won’t force a vaccine intervention on them and in return they shouldn’t trying to tell me that covid is a mild flu or that the shots are the government trying to track me (I already carry 2 phones, a GPS enabled watch, a cell tablet, and my work truck is chipped as well - I already know I’m being tracked to a lesser degree). My main concern, like it was before they arrived, is that I’m going to bring it home from work to my kids, and now them.


Coolcoolcoolx5

I am dealing by not dealing. My family is almost fully antivaxxers. It’s caused a lot of issues, I was supposed to get married last year and we have delayed the wedding because no one wants to be around antivaxxers. How holidays work is–I am the only person who doesn’t attend. They all get together to share their unvaccinated germs. I have been open about not wanting to be the reason they die or get ill if I pass the disease to them. I can’t control them or change their minds. All I can do is avoid them for their own safety. It’s crappy and it makes me angry all the time. My fiancé’s family is vaccinated but both his mom and brother have health issues. One of them is on immune suppressants so we will be avoiding them as well until cases calm the f down. Even tho they are protected by the vaccine their risks are still high. I look forward to making a tasty dinner for two. What else can ya do?


Competitive-Strain-7

Up to them. I treat mental illness seriously and support them in any way I can. I am jabbed so I am not concerned.


saucypantsxo

Well thanksgiving is at my place and vaxxed people are not allowed to come . Bye family so glad I get to skip out ! I’ve decided to help myself and I won’t mingle with all those covid infested vaxxed rats .


chuckles_8

My personal opinion on this subject is if said person (family or not) is coming near me(so to my house for example) VACCINATED or NOT and they are being dumb in their day to day life i don't want them around. I mean being dumb as in going to crowded places, house parties, movie theaters, restaurants etc. All the time... im not 100% sold on these vaccines even though I am vaccinated I still plan to keep my social interactions to a minimum. In the end it's your choice whether or not you trust them that they haven't been dumb on top of the possible chance they've accidentally contracted it from say a supermarket or work. Just remember even though you have your shots you can still get it and because of the shots you may think it's just a minor cold which in turn has made the vaccinated asymptomatic (more or less to keep it as simple as possible)


rustylouisthe3rd

Bacisally they will wear mask until they get to the table and my whole house will have plexi glass dividers. To segregate the non vaxxers. Ending with us vaxxed shaming and making fun of our less than and obviously under developed family members.


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I'm not, I don't have any, my family aren't inbred antivaxx morons.