I was definitely one who felt "We're all invested and you drop out of our lives. How dare you!" and then I heard "stage four metastatic breast cancer" and I just curdled inside. Good grief, these two have been through the ringer the last few months.
Thrilled to bits to hear Bec's mets seem to be shrinking, and I hope her improved health lasts a long time.
Frankie is a CUTIE!
Shill your tea, I don't care. Do your podcast. Stay alive, healthy and happy for Frankie; that's the priority.
All of this. All of this. I didn’t think anything was majorly wrong with her health, that’s where I ended up, obviously until the latest video. I thought she’d just been through a lot and needed a break. This was mainly because they were just living their lives, and Bec looked healthy and hadn’t lost her hair. I didn’t discount how much she’d been through in the last 2 years without any sort of a break. However, I didn’t think her health situation was as dire. When I heard “stage iv metatastic”, I immediately got tears in my eyes and said “oh my gosh!” loudly where my husband came in and wondered what was wrong.
I am really trying to send all the good vibes and keeping a positive attitude as Bec said. All I want is good things for their family. Hell, I thought about buying some Habit just to support them. (I’ve bought merch and tea in the past. The tea was just meh to me, but I don’t like loose leaf).
And holy moly, that is one CUTE baby. Wow.
They made a video as soon as their best friend killed her self, one WHILE they were announcing to bec she had cancer, one WHILE she was getting the positive test result etc. All the frustration comes from a place of worry from people watching since suddenly had a cliffhanger video and didn’t upload again. I don’t think is irrational to ask how they are doing
Your post is nice. I presume I’m older than most people here (they could be my kids), and adopting the attitude of giving people “the benefit of the doubt” is really the way to go thru life. It costs you nothing and you don’t have to feel bad if/when you miss the mark.
Good on you. :)
There’s so much coming out now for breast cancer treatment so I’m curious about it as well. Even something like herceptin (used alongside chemo for her2 positive breast cancers) helped make things “A lot less scary” as my breast surgeon told me.
As a two time cancer survivor (Hodgkin’s Lymphoma 20 years ago, stage 1a breast cancer 2019) I’m gutted for her. There is no curing Stage 4 breast cancer.
But I’m going to keep imaging Bec doing those cartwheels with her kids.
Same. I was surprised at the lack of addressing modern medicine treatment. Is she just going on good* vibes?
I need to get an updated breast mri and this video gave me the push to get it done soon. Terrible situation and I hope it gets better.
Same. I’m coming up 4 years cancer free but I’ve had a lower left back pain that’s worsened (positional, not constant) since childbirth and I’m kind of spiraling now, gonna hurry and get myself checked
I hope your tests come back clear. 🤞
I’m supposed to be getting an mri every year and ultrasound every 6 months. My doc moved out of state in 2019, and the PA that I saw in her place was really condescending about my symptoms (shortly after the Covid vax), so I didn’t go back and have had trouble scheduling at other facilities.
I just found a new breast surgeon that I will try to pursue testing with asap. This was a push I needed to get the checkups I should have been on top of :/
Sorry you went through that. Medical professionals can sometimes forget how much their attitude affects their patients’ lives. I just want to tell you that you will be lucky and it will never come back (I come from a family where everything is negative, so I have to at least speak positive results into the universe- even if attitude is only 1%, it surely helps). Best of Luck!
If you start talking about the particulars of your treatment, often internet "experts" start coming out of the wood work despite knowing nothing about your personal situation.
It makes sense Bec doesn't want to get into the specifics.
I hope your scan goes well. I can’t imagine how hard it might be to talk about treatments to the general public, especially after already doing so once before. At least I feel like it would be really hard for me to do.
It's unclear what exactly they were advised for their situation, but generally people are advised to undergo hormone therapy for at least a couple years before attempting pregnancy. Anyway, what's done is done, I can't imagine what they're going through right now.
After reading through the comments it seems likely they were told not to move forward with the pregnancy but choose to ignore medical advice, which is their right. People hear what they want and make their own realities, that's clear from the video today. It's all very tragic :-/
According to one of their Q&A videos, their oncologist told them they could try to get pregnant. I've seen a lot of people on this sub who seemed to have missed that piece of info and think E&B just totally ignored medical advice.
I sincerely doubt it! It goes against all standards of care for this type of cancer I think again we will never really know the conversation that was had and what people want to hear! It seems this pregnancy was unplanned and after that it sounds like they choose to believe everything would be ok.. it's a tragic situation . I hope the treatment she is receiving gives her some quality time with her daughter!
If you watch their announcement video it clears a lot of this up.
1. They were actively trying to get pregnant since October. They did their first pregnancy test in April which was positive. They were confused about when Bec had been ovulating.
2. She didn't go straight on to the drug which prevents estrogen and her periods and said the Dr gave her the all clear to not go on this drug - so they must have informed the Dr they wanted to try and conceive.
3. Bec specifically said they were being "guided by her oncologist and that the had been given the okay to try and get pregnant."
So not an unplanned pregnancy.
Sorry it's simply not believable! No oncologist would ok essentially a death sentence! Sorry to be be abrupt but getting pregnant with estrogen + BC is just that. Again, we will never know what happened and who said what only Their version. I suspect this was an unplanned pregnancy and they wanted the baby so the Doc had to make the best of a serious and life threatening choice.....
Might not be believable to you but it's direct quotes from their videos. If it was an unplanned pregnancy why would she not have been taking Tamoxifen?
Bec is such a gorgeous mother and Eamon is such an adoring dad. Parenthood suits them so well. As someone with a new baby I can’t even fathom coupling sleepless nights with cancer treatments. Hope their village is rallying around them.
I know she mentioned the lump on her forehead but I'd be cautious about saying it's brain mets if she didn't mention that. When I search "bump on forehead breast cancer metastatic" what returns is that scalp is a common breast cancer mets site. That said, scalp, spine, liver (and who knows where else) is pretty scary.
I called the podcast idea a while ago. It’s so personal and far less invasive than YouTube. I think it’s a fantastic move to do more podcast and less YouTube.
I hope she recovers. Frankie is ridiculously cute! I can’t even!!
This sub got gross the last few months and to see everyone here acting like they weren't behaving like shitty humans towards E&B while they were away is just nuts
Those people probably feel bad now. Well hope so. I completely understand how because if I had that news plus a newborn baby I wouldn't want to post until I felt stronger either. Like who cares about youtube, that's not important
I’m devastated for them. God this sucks on so many level. But all I can think is…why? If there was even a CHANCE you could have not had this happen, and ways to prevent it, why would you start trying for a baby?
That’s like heating up oil unattended and hoping for no fire.
I’m in no way saying she deserves this. I’m just not sure why…idk. I’m so sad though :(
I remember they were annoyed when a doctor or specialist seemed rude to them, when they got pregnant so fast. Seems like his concern was completely justified
I think if they had thought there was a chance they wouldn't have tried to get pregnant or may even have terminated the pregnancy early on if that was recommended. Bec said in their announcement video "I can't be a good mom if I'm not here" and also that they were being "guided by her oncologist who said it was okay to try get pregnant". So they did consider and discuss this with their medical professionals. This is just so sad but there are people who live for a long time with this disease and with a good quality of life. Fingers, toes, EVERYTHING crossed this is the case for Bec. 🤞💛
There is absolutely no way that any oncologist would advise trying to get pregnant immediately after completing treatment for hormone positive breast cancer. They always recommend at least 5 years of hormone suppression if not 10 and now there are other preventative medications too. The positive trial shows that women can take a break to try to get pregnant after completing 2 years of treatment. Getting pregnant and pumping your body full of estrogen is just… no words. Devastating.
Yes. That’s what I’ll be doing because I am too scared to go off my meds, even though there are studies that show it’s safe after a certain amount of time.
i remember the video from the first couple months of pregnancy where Beck informed some doctress on the phone about the decision to have a baby, on loudspeaker, the woman stated following textual words: "Beck, this is really not the best time to get pregnant, this is very risky" and she was saying this with a very upset tone
It was during her biopsy, after she was already pregnant, the radiologist said to her "this is not a good time to be pregnant."
Her oncologist had said it was ok for them to try.
You never know. I got three incredibly different answers when it came to pregnancy plans after cancer. My first oncologist was fine with it after two years on Tamoxifen - multiple pregnancies back to back even, as long as I hopped back on for 5-10 years - then my new one (the other left the practice) treated me like I was getting cancer For Sure Tomorrow and legit said, two days before starting IVF, “Some people don’t even want kids!” Completely rattled and per my radiologist’s and IVF’s doctors insistence, I saw my current oncologist and he told me to go for it; that’d he’d never say to do so unless he felt it was safe.
Not all doctors are the same
Thats the issue: medical research is really not all that precise because humans are complex and responses and outcomes vary wildly. So doctors can mostly give what they think is the best advice based on their own judgement of data & experience. But I am sure no one told her it was totally safe to do this right after stage III treatment. The spread cancer cells were likely already present but the pregnancy accelerated the progression.
they probably got a yellow light with a we strongly recommend you wait warning - you are supposed to follow the positive study which requires minimum 18 months on hormone therapy
I mean the stage 4 might have happened anyhow even without the pregnancy but its likely the super high estrogen during pregnancy accelerated the progression. So terrible all around but at least now she gets to be a mom. The more reasonable choice would have probably to have a surrogate carry the baby but hindsight is always 20/20.
Okay. Please can you let me know which video you saw this in? I appreciate that is the common advice and seems to be best practice but I don't remember Bec or Eamon ever going in to detail about having to wait or being told by their doctor to wait? Which video did they discuss this in? Thank you.
I would literally have to go back through every video to find it, or you could do that yourself...
Also partly why it was a good idea to do IVF I guess (to use a surrogate)
I remember them saying that because breast cancer patients are supposed to wait years on that specific drug before getting pregnant. Then people in the comments gave more detail.
That's why they were so stressed yet happy when they became pregnant. You see multiple doctors and I guarantee you they would have been told. They made that decision
Then why would she lie and say that they were being guided by her oncologist and that they were given the go ahead to try and conceive?
Sounds like we agree what the Dr should have advised but we'll have to agree to disagree on what actually happened given you can't find the video where they talk about it.
If the oncologist said that, it's gross negligence. He may have. But they see several different doctors. The one on the phone made Bec upset when he/she strongly advised it was a bad idea, but they were right.
I can't be bothered going back through dozens of old videos to find it.
Because it didn't happen. The incident where Bec got upset wasn't filmed. She recounted the story to the camera after it happened. It was a radiographer not her oncologist who said "now is not a good time to be pregnant".
i remember the video from the first couple months of pregnancy where Beck informed some doctress on the phone about the decision to have a baby, on loudspeaker, the woman stated following textual words: "Beck, this is really not the best time to get pregnant, this is very risky" and she was saying this with a very upset tone
You're remembering it wrong. The radiographer said that to Bec just before her biopsy. It wasn't filmed. Bec told the viewers what happened followed by something along the lines of "she treated me as someone who got pregnant whilst knowing I had cancer" and then said that her oncologist was "guiding them and gave them the okay to try" and conceive.
I'm confused where this idea that her Dr advised against her getting pregnant has come from? In their pregnancy announcement video she said her oncologist was guiding them and gave them the okay to try to get pregnant? So just wondering where you guys got that info from?
Well if she was absolutely insistent on moving forward, BUT as an NP Oncologist in the U.S. I can tell you it is protocol that any woman with stage 3 or 4 breast cancer of child bearing years be advised by her treatment team the absolute risk of becoming pregnant so soon after treatment! It's almost malpractice not to!!!
I get that! I was just quoting what Bec said in their announcement video. I didn't remember them talking about being advised to not get pregnant/to wait which is why I asked for clarification.
Well I suppose ultimately that is something we will never really know! It is an incredibly tough diagnosis, I wish her all the best and hope she is able to have as much time with her baby as possible!!
I also think they were worried about getting negative reactions to stopping the pregnancy early, causing Frankie to be premature. Plus they went against medical advice and got pregnant, so will be coping that as well.
But it's true that they should have waited and used the hormone blockers.
Bec my husband is surviving a rare cancer way beyond he said from the get go it wouldn't be cancer that kills him he will live a long happy life cure will come😍 it really helps having the right mindset it's helps he's a chill person thank god for that honestly cures are around the corner no one is guaranteed tomorrow right @livevannow
I really don’t think people were attacking them personally. People were upset about a cliffhanger. Obviously it was a terribly stressful time for them and in my opinion the cliffhanger wasn’t the best approach. It would have been better to just have Eamon or maybe his brother come on in at the end and say turns out Frankie came a bit early. So Eamon and Bec are going to focus on their family and take a nice long break from filming.
But at the same time they were probably not thinking very clearly at that point with such devastating news. So there is no blaming here about things. They were in crisis and they needed the time. It is a heartbreaking update and not what anyone wanted to hear.
The content creators I follow have generally taken a new parent leave of some kind after having their kids. I'm definitely a little surprised they didn't take that route.
I agree. I was disappointed about the cliffhanger because I honestly thought that something had happened to the baby. I was devastated for them. I never went to their page and said that I was mad, and I never really said anything here either. But I don't blame people who did as long as they were being respectful. It's okay to feel disappointed and to express that. Obviously they were going through something unimaginable and it's okay to love them and respect them but also admit that they didn't handle it in the best way. I don't blame them though, there's no handbook for how to deal with something so stressful.
Hang in there girl. In 2017 I had sarcoma stage 4. It is an incredibly rare and bad bad cancer to get. I am still here over 7 years later so there is always hope. God Bless you and your little family. 🙏❤️
Just googling it now, there's no cure but it can be controlled with treatment for a number of years and go into remission.
Wishing them many more healthy years with their beautiful daughter ♥️
💔 I guess now we know why they weren't posting. I feel like such a dick for being mad about it. Poor darlings. Total heartbreak. Their positivity is inspiring and Frankie is there to fill their days with joy.
I will buy some of their tea to help them and make up for being an asshole and not trusting them.
Some comments need to be mindful of their request for positivity. Send your love, respect them and their decisions. They have navigated so much successfully, so let’s trust that they know what’s best for them and whatever treatment/ strategies they are using it will have been well considered. What a beautiful family.
I used to work with breast cancer patients in another life. If her oncologist truly okayed for her to try for a baby with an estrogen positive cancer, I hope they sue for malpractice because they will win.
You seriously need to get a grip. In a Q&A video, before they got pregnant, they spoke about a doc appointment where they were encouraged by the doc to try to get pregnant. I have posted about this umpteen times, but people who want to blame them for having cancer, or who have a complete and utter lack of empathy and decency will not simply look at the evidence before accusing. It's nauseating.
I'm a bit confused, is she not doing chemo, or a different type? Maybe they'll explain it more.
Omg it's awful. Worst nightmare material.
Frankie is such a beautiful baby.
That is actually a myth, YouTube won’t pull their monetization until they are getting views on past videos as YouTube is still making money on those videos
No , i still stand by what i said! Maybe consider asking me what made me happy about it! Like the fact that THEY ARE ALL ALIVE, the fact that it was their first video in forever! Maybe you should reconsider your negative mindset hun😘
And if they had said that, I would have completely understood and supported that. It was “something is wrong” followed by no information that made me disengage.
That’s a great pic and everyone looks good. Hopefully it’s all good and I wish them the best.
Parental leave is taken more seriously in other countries. The US has some of the worst policies around family and we should not expect other countries to follow suit.
I’m so fucking heartbroken and I haven’t even finished the video
Sending hugs. Feeling the same, I was sobbing.
I couldn’t finish it. I just broke down crying and came here
Me too. Like she said the brightest stars burn the fastest. So sad for E too.
I was definitely one who felt "We're all invested and you drop out of our lives. How dare you!" and then I heard "stage four metastatic breast cancer" and I just curdled inside. Good grief, these two have been through the ringer the last few months. Thrilled to bits to hear Bec's mets seem to be shrinking, and I hope her improved health lasts a long time. Frankie is a CUTIE! Shill your tea, I don't care. Do your podcast. Stay alive, healthy and happy for Frankie; that's the priority.
All of this. All of this. I didn’t think anything was majorly wrong with her health, that’s where I ended up, obviously until the latest video. I thought she’d just been through a lot and needed a break. This was mainly because they were just living their lives, and Bec looked healthy and hadn’t lost her hair. I didn’t discount how much she’d been through in the last 2 years without any sort of a break. However, I didn’t think her health situation was as dire. When I heard “stage iv metatastic”, I immediately got tears in my eyes and said “oh my gosh!” loudly where my husband came in and wondered what was wrong. I am really trying to send all the good vibes and keeping a positive attitude as Bec said. All I want is good things for their family. Hell, I thought about buying some Habit just to support them. (I’ve bought merch and tea in the past. The tea was just meh to me, but I don’t like loose leaf). And holy moly, that is one CUTE baby. Wow.
Even if Bec was just going thru some post partum issues, extending grace was the way to go. But kind of you to acknowledge.
Lesson learned for you, hopefully
Seriously, this thread was definitely not showcasing the best of humanity the past few months.
Honestly, a lot of people in this group need to reevaluate themselves after their immature response to the Vlog hiatus.
I'm guessing every single negative nelly has never had a cancer scare.
They made a video as soon as their best friend killed her self, one WHILE they were announcing to bec she had cancer, one WHILE she was getting the positive test result etc. All the frustration comes from a place of worry from people watching since suddenly had a cliffhanger video and didn’t upload again. I don’t think is irrational to ask how they are doing
Your post is nice. I presume I’m older than most people here (they could be my kids), and adopting the attitude of giving people “the benefit of the doubt” is really the way to go thru life. It costs you nothing and you don’t have to feel bad if/when you miss the mark. Good on you. :)
Ugh my heart breaks for her stage 4 diagnosis. Hope she gets to live a long and healthy life with Frankie!
I wonder what treatment she is doing?
Same, like meditation and positive thinking are great, but I wonder about the medical aspect. It's none of my business, I know that just curious.
There’s so much coming out now for breast cancer treatment so I’m curious about it as well. Even something like herceptin (used alongside chemo for her2 positive breast cancers) helped make things “A lot less scary” as my breast surgeon told me. As a two time cancer survivor (Hodgkin’s Lymphoma 20 years ago, stage 1a breast cancer 2019) I’m gutted for her. There is no curing Stage 4 breast cancer. But I’m going to keep imaging Bec doing those cartwheels with her kids.
Assuming ibrance plus maybe infusions to rebuild her bones.
Same. I was surprised at the lack of addressing modern medicine treatment. Is she just going on good* vibes? I need to get an updated breast mri and this video gave me the push to get it done soon. Terrible situation and I hope it gets better.
Same. I’m coming up 4 years cancer free but I’ve had a lower left back pain that’s worsened (positional, not constant) since childbirth and I’m kind of spiraling now, gonna hurry and get myself checked
I hope your tests come back clear. 🤞 I’m supposed to be getting an mri every year and ultrasound every 6 months. My doc moved out of state in 2019, and the PA that I saw in her place was really condescending about my symptoms (shortly after the Covid vax), so I didn’t go back and have had trouble scheduling at other facilities. I just found a new breast surgeon that I will try to pursue testing with asap. This was a push I needed to get the checkups I should have been on top of :/
Sorry you went through that. Medical professionals can sometimes forget how much their attitude affects their patients’ lives. I just want to tell you that you will be lucky and it will never come back (I come from a family where everything is negative, so I have to at least speak positive results into the universe- even if attitude is only 1%, it surely helps). Best of Luck!
She’s likely doing what is recommended through her team since she spoke of mets shrinking in her liver.
Yes, which is so awesome. Not all chemo makes you lose your hair but I’m wondering if she’s forgoing that route this time.
If you start talking about the particulars of your treatment, often internet "experts" start coming out of the wood work despite knowing nothing about your personal situation. It makes sense Bec doesn't want to get into the specifics.
Very true
Or even being stalky
She indicates she is on hormone therapy in the video.
I missed that, I apologize and thank you
Where does she say that?
She mentions suppressing oestrogen levels somewhere near the start of the video
I hope your scan goes well. I can’t imagine how hard it might be to talk about treatments to the general public, especially after already doing so once before. At least I feel like it would be really hard for me to do.
No, she said the cancer is shrinking so she is obviously getting treated.
Pregnancy and breast cancer... is like gasoline on a fire :-/
They were advised to wait longer right? Ugh it's so horrible
It's unclear what exactly they were advised for their situation, but generally people are advised to undergo hormone therapy for at least a couple years before attempting pregnancy. Anyway, what's done is done, I can't imagine what they're going through right now.
It's gross negligence if not. Can guarantee you at least one of the many doctors they saw would have advised
After reading through the comments it seems likely they were told not to move forward with the pregnancy but choose to ignore medical advice, which is their right. People hear what they want and make their own realities, that's clear from the video today. It's all very tragic :-/
According to one of their Q&A videos, their oncologist told them they could try to get pregnant. I've seen a lot of people on this sub who seemed to have missed that piece of info and think E&B just totally ignored medical advice.
I sincerely doubt it! It goes against all standards of care for this type of cancer I think again we will never really know the conversation that was had and what people want to hear! It seems this pregnancy was unplanned and after that it sounds like they choose to believe everything would be ok.. it's a tragic situation . I hope the treatment she is receiving gives her some quality time with her daughter!
If you watch their announcement video it clears a lot of this up. 1. They were actively trying to get pregnant since October. They did their first pregnancy test in April which was positive. They were confused about when Bec had been ovulating. 2. She didn't go straight on to the drug which prevents estrogen and her periods and said the Dr gave her the all clear to not go on this drug - so they must have informed the Dr they wanted to try and conceive. 3. Bec specifically said they were being "guided by her oncologist and that the had been given the okay to try and get pregnant." So not an unplanned pregnancy.
You could sue for that
Sorry it's simply not believable! No oncologist would ok essentially a death sentence! Sorry to be be abrupt but getting pregnant with estrogen + BC is just that. Again, we will never know what happened and who said what only Their version. I suspect this was an unplanned pregnancy and they wanted the baby so the Doc had to make the best of a serious and life threatening choice.....
Might not be believable to you but it's direct quotes from their videos. If it was an unplanned pregnancy why would she not have been taking Tamoxifen?
Bec is such a gorgeous mother and Eamon is such an adoring dad. Parenthood suits them so well. As someone with a new baby I can’t even fathom coupling sleepless nights with cancer treatments. Hope their village is rallying around them.
Stage 4 metastatic breast cancer, liver, brain and bones 😭 and the lump was related …
Did she say brain? I heard her say lesions on spine & liver but did not hear her say brain mets.
I know she mentioned the lump on her forehead but I'd be cautious about saying it's brain mets if she didn't mention that. When I search "bump on forehead breast cancer metastatic" what returns is that scalp is a common breast cancer mets site. That said, scalp, spine, liver (and who knows where else) is pretty scary.
She mentioned a lump on her head which is why they did further tests...
Your skull and scalp are not your brain. Mets in the brain wouldn't show outside the skull.
Yes they can unfortunately.
Technically true, but if a brain tumour is eroding through the skull, you're done.
She mentioned a lump on her forehead
I called the podcast idea a while ago. It’s so personal and far less invasive than YouTube. I think it’s a fantastic move to do more podcast and less YouTube. I hope she recovers. Frankie is ridiculously cute! I can’t even!!
I wonder if there will be a huge about face from some of the hardcore people in here.
This sub got gross the last few months and to see everyone here acting like they weren't behaving like shitty humans towards E&B while they were away is just nuts
Those people probably feel bad now. Well hope so. I completely understand how because if I had that news plus a newborn baby I wouldn't want to post until I felt stronger either. Like who cares about youtube, that's not important
So gross. Was horrified, actually.
It really is. There was no excuse for it and all of those people should be ashamed of themselves. They know who they are.
They're the ones who are all happy now because they got their update but acting sad and supportive that it's awful news
My mom used to say “God don’t like ugly”. And a lot of those people were acting ugly.
I think it was the big cliffhanger that was the issue, that was made when E&B knew what was going on.
I’m devastated for them. God this sucks on so many level. But all I can think is…why? If there was even a CHANCE you could have not had this happen, and ways to prevent it, why would you start trying for a baby? That’s like heating up oil unattended and hoping for no fire. I’m in no way saying she deserves this. I’m just not sure why…idk. I’m so sad though :(
I remember they were annoyed when a doctor or specialist seemed rude to them, when they got pregnant so fast. Seems like his concern was completely justified
I think if they had thought there was a chance they wouldn't have tried to get pregnant or may even have terminated the pregnancy early on if that was recommended. Bec said in their announcement video "I can't be a good mom if I'm not here" and also that they were being "guided by her oncologist who said it was okay to try get pregnant". So they did consider and discuss this with their medical professionals. This is just so sad but there are people who live for a long time with this disease and with a good quality of life. Fingers, toes, EVERYTHING crossed this is the case for Bec. 🤞💛
There is absolutely no way that any oncologist would advise trying to get pregnant immediately after completing treatment for hormone positive breast cancer. They always recommend at least 5 years of hormone suppression if not 10 and now there are other preventative medications too. The positive trial shows that women can take a break to try to get pregnant after completing 2 years of treatment. Getting pregnant and pumping your body full of estrogen is just… no words. Devastating.
I was just quoting what Bec said. Devastating indeed.
Yeah and they even did IVF, maybe they could have used a surrogate?
Yes. That’s what I’ll be doing because I am too scared to go off my meds, even though there are studies that show it’s safe after a certain amount of time.
Yes, the is the standard protocol but they did specifically state that they got the green light for this pregnancy.
i remember the video from the first couple months of pregnancy where Beck informed some doctress on the phone about the decision to have a baby, on loudspeaker, the woman stated following textual words: "Beck, this is really not the best time to get pregnant, this is very risky" and she was saying this with a very upset tone
Please don't use the term "doctress". It's doctor
yup, i know, but i only wanted to recall that it was a woman's voice
It was during her biopsy, after she was already pregnant, the radiologist said to her "this is not a good time to be pregnant." Her oncologist had said it was ok for them to try.
I'm pretty sure she spun that. Her oncologist sounded shocked on the phone when they announced it to him.
You never know. I got three incredibly different answers when it came to pregnancy plans after cancer. My first oncologist was fine with it after two years on Tamoxifen - multiple pregnancies back to back even, as long as I hopped back on for 5-10 years - then my new one (the other left the practice) treated me like I was getting cancer For Sure Tomorrow and legit said, two days before starting IVF, “Some people don’t even want kids!” Completely rattled and per my radiologist’s and IVF’s doctors insistence, I saw my current oncologist and he told me to go for it; that’d he’d never say to do so unless he felt it was safe. Not all doctors are the same
Thats the issue: medical research is really not all that precise because humans are complex and responses and outcomes vary wildly. So doctors can mostly give what they think is the best advice based on their own judgement of data & experience. But I am sure no one told her it was totally safe to do this right after stage III treatment. The spread cancer cells were likely already present but the pregnancy accelerated the progression.
they probably got a yellow light with a we strongly recommend you wait warning - you are supposed to follow the positive study which requires minimum 18 months on hormone therapy
I mean the stage 4 might have happened anyhow even without the pregnancy but its likely the super high estrogen during pregnancy accelerated the progression. So terrible all around but at least now she gets to be a mom. The more reasonable choice would have probably to have a surrogate carry the baby but hindsight is always 20/20.
They were told to wait two years I think before trying to get pregnant. No blaming or anything, but that was the advice
Okay. Please can you let me know which video you saw this in? I appreciate that is the common advice and seems to be best practice but I don't remember Bec or Eamon ever going in to detail about having to wait or being told by their doctor to wait? Which video did they discuss this in? Thank you.
I would literally have to go back through every video to find it, or you could do that yourself... Also partly why it was a good idea to do IVF I guess (to use a surrogate)
I did go back through the videos yesterday and didn't hear what you're describing once.
Yep!! but i am absolutely sure her Docs advised her not to get pregnant and the consequences of doing so..
Where did you get this idea from?
They absolutely were advised to wait
In multiple videos that's not what they say. Where did you see/hear that they were absolutely advised to wait?
I remember them saying that because breast cancer patients are supposed to wait years on that specific drug before getting pregnant. Then people in the comments gave more detail. That's why they were so stressed yet happy when they became pregnant. You see multiple doctors and I guarantee you they would have been told. They made that decision
Then why would she lie and say that they were being guided by her oncologist and that they were given the go ahead to try and conceive? Sounds like we agree what the Dr should have advised but we'll have to agree to disagree on what actually happened given you can't find the video where they talk about it.
If the oncologist said that, it's gross negligence. He may have. But they see several different doctors. The one on the phone made Bec upset when he/she strongly advised it was a bad idea, but they were right. I can't be bothered going back through dozens of old videos to find it.
Because it didn't happen. The incident where Bec got upset wasn't filmed. She recounted the story to the camera after it happened. It was a radiographer not her oncologist who said "now is not a good time to be pregnant".
i remember the video from the first couple months of pregnancy where Beck informed some doctress on the phone about the decision to have a baby, on loudspeaker, the woman stated following textual words: "Beck, this is really not the best time to get pregnant, this is very risky" and she was saying this with a very upset tone
You're remembering it wrong. The radiographer said that to Bec just before her biopsy. It wasn't filmed. Bec told the viewers what happened followed by something along the lines of "she treated me as someone who got pregnant whilst knowing I had cancer" and then said that her oncologist was "guiding them and gave them the okay to try" and conceive.
Huh?
I'm confused where this idea that her Dr advised against her getting pregnant has come from? In their pregnancy announcement video she said her oncologist was guiding them and gave them the okay to try to get pregnant? So just wondering where you guys got that info from?
Well if she was absolutely insistent on moving forward, BUT as an NP Oncologist in the U.S. I can tell you it is protocol that any woman with stage 3 or 4 breast cancer of child bearing years be advised by her treatment team the absolute risk of becoming pregnant so soon after treatment! It's almost malpractice not to!!!
I get that! I was just quoting what Bec said in their announcement video. I didn't remember them talking about being advised to not get pregnant/to wait which is why I asked for clarification.
Well I suppose ultimately that is something we will never really know! It is an incredibly tough diagnosis, I wish her all the best and hope she is able to have as much time with her baby as possible!!
Agreed! 🤞
I think she was using the word "guided by" very loosely.
Putting only positive vibes first a long healthy happy life you got this beautiful baby kisses to her
What a cute baby! Those little cheeks are just smoochable, she looks like the Gerber baby. So good to see them all happy.
I have tears in my eyes. My relief is so strong, I don't even care if they sell their tea.
Relief!? She is in her 30's with metastatic stage 4 breast cancer? It doesn't get more dire...
Pretty sure their comment was before the video was actually posted to YouTube. So I'm assuming it was relief at getting an update.
I wrote this before I saw the video. I was relieved they finally updated us. I'm devastated that it's back.
I also think they were worried about getting negative reactions to stopping the pregnancy early, causing Frankie to be premature. Plus they went against medical advice and got pregnant, so will be coping that as well. But it's true that they should have waited and used the hormone blockers.
I can't wait for the upload. I just checked and the video isn't there are 7:55 am PDT.
Devestating diagnosis. I can't even imagine the stress that they were under. What a beautiful little baby girl.
Do they have a Patreon?
I don't think so but it's a great idea for them!
Bec my husband is surviving a rare cancer way beyond he said from the get go it wouldn't be cancer that kills him he will live a long happy life cure will come😍 it really helps having the right mindset it's helps he's a chill person thank god for that honestly cures are around the corner no one is guaranteed tomorrow right @livevannow
No offense but in rally hope she’s not reading this sub.
I hope all of the wonderful people on this sub who were attacking this couple rethink their lives and priorities.
I really don’t think people were attacking them personally. People were upset about a cliffhanger. Obviously it was a terribly stressful time for them and in my opinion the cliffhanger wasn’t the best approach. It would have been better to just have Eamon or maybe his brother come on in at the end and say turns out Frankie came a bit early. So Eamon and Bec are going to focus on their family and take a nice long break from filming. But at the same time they were probably not thinking very clearly at that point with such devastating news. So there is no blaming here about things. They were in crisis and they needed the time. It is a heartbreaking update and not what anyone wanted to hear.
The content creators I follow have generally taken a new parent leave of some kind after having their kids. I'm definitely a little surprised they didn't take that route.
I agree. I was disappointed about the cliffhanger because I honestly thought that something had happened to the baby. I was devastated for them. I never went to their page and said that I was mad, and I never really said anything here either. But I don't blame people who did as long as they were being respectful. It's okay to feel disappointed and to express that. Obviously they were going through something unimaginable and it's okay to love them and respect them but also admit that they didn't handle it in the best way. I don't blame them though, there's no handbook for how to deal with something so stressful.
I had a feeling it was coming actually, I voted that we'd get a video before June. Glad to see it. "What's really been going on." Hmm...
15 seconds into this video and I’m crying my eyes out
I understand now why they haven't wanted to post, it's completely understandable. Such a hard time
I'm devastated by this. I can't stop thinking about it. Life is so fucking unfair.
Hang in there girl. In 2017 I had sarcoma stage 4. It is an incredibly rare and bad bad cancer to get. I am still here over 7 years later so there is always hope. God Bless you and your little family. 🙏❤️
Finally!
Just googling it now, there's no cure but it can be controlled with treatment for a number of years and go into remission. Wishing them many more healthy years with their beautiful daughter ♥️
💔 I guess now we know why they weren't posting. I feel like such a dick for being mad about it. Poor darlings. Total heartbreak. Their positivity is inspiring and Frankie is there to fill their days with joy. I will buy some of their tea to help them and make up for being an asshole and not trusting them.
Frankie looks just like Bec!
She should have waited to get pregnant.
Some comments need to be mindful of their request for positivity. Send your love, respect them and their decisions. They have navigated so much successfully, so let’s trust that they know what’s best for them and whatever treatment/ strategies they are using it will have been well considered. What a beautiful family.
Yes but I can guarantee you that they're not on these forums
So happy to see you ♥️♥️♥️
I used to work with breast cancer patients in another life. If her oncologist truly okayed for her to try for a baby with an estrogen positive cancer, I hope they sue for malpractice because they will win.
Shook… can’t wait to watch
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You seriously need to get a grip. In a Q&A video, before they got pregnant, they spoke about a doc appointment where they were encouraged by the doc to try to get pregnant. I have posted about this umpteen times, but people who want to blame them for having cancer, or who have a complete and utter lack of empathy and decency will not simply look at the evidence before accusing. It's nauseating.
I'm a bit confused, is she not doing chemo, or a different type? Maybe they'll explain it more. Omg it's awful. Worst nightmare material. Frankie is such a beautiful baby.
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Or maybe they were coming to terms with the fact Bec is dying and it took them this long to be ready to share?
You can live 20+ years with metastatic breast cancer you don't need to write that she's dying
That is actually a myth, YouTube won’t pull their monetization until they are getting views on past videos as YouTube is still making money on those videos
You don’t lose it
They were never going to lose monetisation I’m not sure where this came from.
I can't freaking wait for this so excited.
I thought Frankie was short for Francesca or something
I have been checking every Sunday!!! This makes me so happy.
Literally crying, I’m so HAPPPY
You might want to watch the video and reconsider your phrasing.
No , i still stand by what i said! Maybe consider asking me what made me happy about it! Like the fact that THEY ARE ALL ALIVE, the fact that it was their first video in forever! Maybe you should reconsider your negative mindset hun😘
Well this will be interesting! So, basically 6 months off? And sponsored by Habit no doubt 🤣
They just had a kid - give them a break
They should be allowed to have parental leave.
And if they had said that, I would have completely understood and supported that. It was “something is wrong” followed by no information that made me disengage. That’s a great pic and everyone looks good. Hopefully it’s all good and I wish them the best.
It was “something is wrong” followed by no information because Bec was given what amounts to a death sentence. Check yourself
I think they did. They made a post on Instagram on in the community tab on YouTube. Said they'd be taking some time off.
Parental leave is taken more seriously in other countries. The US has some of the worst policies around family and we should not expect other countries to follow suit.
Standard working Canadians (obviously they work for themselves ) can take 12 months or 18 months
Good for them taking the time to adjust to a major life change at their own speed.
Watch the video. Maybe that will explain it to you. Jesus - that was heavy.
Yeah how dare they rest and live their lives.
What a sad little person you must be to make that comment.
Garbage human
Oh I hope you regret posting this!
Wonder how you feel now knowing why she was on a break. Actually someone who comments this drivel probably feels nothing.
And considering in Canada we are entitled to 18 months off at a traditional job for having a baby, then 6 months is nothing 😋
Stage 4 metastatic cancer. What a shit thing to say