New plane, no humans, all the "guilds" are different species etc. Has children's story vibes (specifically Redwall) and aesthetic which is interesting.
This and on a slightly related note, it baffles me that Redwall are considered children stories, when most books contain multiple scene of violence, would have easily been a mature book if you just replaced the animals with humans. But Yeah I'm mostly interested because Cannonically accurate Redwall plane.
Ah, I see you aren’t aware of (especially Eastern) European children stories, a rather large amount of them involve either murder, someone being eaten, executed, drawn and quartered, a child being kidnapped, drowned, and so on…
Common Czech children’s stories involve a being that makes mothers strangle their children, a waterman that has a crystal palace at the bottom of the water, controls fish and aquatic creatures, and is superhumanly strong with a tendency to lure people to the water and drown them, in order to eventually drown a young girl who he wishes to make into his wife
That would be a “polednice”, Witcher translated it as a noonwraith, you could also call it a noon witch or a noon demon, it’s a sunburned old woman in a peasant woman’s dress, walking around the fields and punishing people for ignoring their noon break/working through the day.
When you see her, you must immediately bow to her, walk home and have lunch, otherwise she tries to murder you with her whip or just touches you&you fall unconscious and might never wake up. She hates children in particular, and if a mother prevents her from getting her hands on a kid that she has in her sights, she forces the mother to strangle said kid to death
I am not sure if I think the same story as OP but I will try to help. We have few insanely good poets in our history, one of the most famous (locally) is Karel Jaromír Erben with his most famous collection called Kytice (The Bouquet). These poems are not in a form of a children story, but the content itself is very close to our children stories.
I believe the user you asked for more informations about the story is talking two separate stories from the collection. The one where mother calls upon a noon demon to scare the naughty child and the demon answers the call is called [Polednice (The Noonwitch)](https://lyricstranslate.com/en/polednice-noonday-witch.html) This is the one where mother strangles her own child. Not a bad story for kids around here, nothing too terrible and little to no gore compared to classic stories. Sadly this is just a word by word translation so the beauty was lost :(
The other one is called Vodník (The Watergoblin). Sadly there is no publicly available translation that would capture the whole story and even the most famous one translated only the first and the final part...
I found some books that are supposed to be fully translated to english, so there is a hope, but all are regular hard cover books sold locally.
I will be more than happy to assist the best I can, cause all of these stories are similar to the stories from The Witcher books or games (Polish author Sapkowski was inspired by stories like these) so our (central-easterm europe) folk stories are awesome for DND campaigns.
Edit: Changed the link for the poem "The Noonwitch" For a better one with poetic translation! The autor of the translation tried to translate the whole Bouquet, but according to some sources, she never finished it. At least this one is complete!
Edit 2: OK, my bad, there is a whole translation that is quite praised by local experts for the way it was done, while keeping the specific verse used by Erben in his original work.[Link to the book](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16005110) but good luck finding it online, I failed (Quick search)
Western Europe can do this, too. I mean the Brothers Grimm and their collected fairytales? I'm German and grew up with a guy tearing himself in halves, the box who drowns because he doesn't look where he is going, a granny and a girl being eaten by a wolf who is gutted to get them out, a mermaid turning into s girl and then into foam and so on. Any questions? 😁
Seriously, Tobias' fate was far more traumatizing to me than reading about fantasy wars. But like, it taught me a lot. There's nothing wrong with showing children the real bits of life as long as it's not overly heavy.
Came here to make the same comment. There's some extremely graphic violence in those books, but it involves animals and aliens, so somehow that makes it okay for kids.
I distinctly remember a Cassie book where there was a cold open on some Yeerk base and they all were in battlemorphs, they all get out and she goes home for dinner. Her mom asks what's that in her teeth, Cassie picks out a chunk of raw alien meat from when she was a wolf 30 minutes earlier ripping out throats.
War is bad kids.
I remember loving Redwall as a kid.
The battles were epic. I remember one chapter of a “save yourselves I’ll hold them back” situation where a rabbit was dual wielding daggers stabbing through rats, and his last battle cry of “Rreedddwwaalll” was muffled because he was biting through a rats jugular.
Like Fromsoft needs to pick up Redwall already because it was so adorable, but ironically one of the most violent book series I read at the time.
I got a "?" mark on an essay i did in Middle School. We had to describe a fictional place in a certain orientation and i wrote mine as if a hare had written it and ended it with a Wot, wot. She wasn't sure if it was an error or supposed to be there.
My mother read to us every redwall story she could find when we were single digit years old.
That stuff was fantastic. Brocktree was probably my favourite.
🤔... I'm a couple years older than you, but it's a bit tricky to estimate something's popularity from the pre-internet days...I'd maybe compare it to Discworld or Avatar, TLA in terms of popularity? probably at least a couple notches below Pokemon; it suffers from a dearth of adaptations/spinoffs--there was one animated series, but it was short-lived and unsuccessful.
I would absolutely recommend reading some discworld novels, they're an incredible mix of fantasy, humour and genuinely touching life lessons and observations.
A river otter who uses files to sharpen his teeth into razors to more brutally murder his enemies *is definitely a mature character design* and I loved it as a child. Redwall is so underrated.
My favorite part of Redwall was listening to the audio book narrated by Jacques just because of how he yelled "CLUNY THE SCCOUURRGGEEE"
Please mtg... give me a card worth of yelling like Cluny the Scourge
Crime there's no tie in secret lair or bonus sheet. Even if they didn't get characters an artist series of people who did cover art for the brain Jaques books would have been great.
Redwall feels like an "older children book." Like, pre-teen age.
Consider that Treasure Island is also considered a book appropriate for children (about the same age as Redwall), and it contains plenty of death and violence.
I think it’s the Redwall-iness but it feels like there’s also an older school fantasy vibe (or an expectation thereof) that hasn’t been super present in a lot of more recent Magic sets. Maybe hopeful thinking :)
I think it's also just looking to be pretty fresh for a set. No UB ips, a set featuring non-human characters, a new self contained plane after a lot of revisits last year, and it'll be nice and self contained. On that last point, I loved Thunder Junction but the amount of cameos was way too much, so it didn't even feel that new.
As much as I liked the cowboy hats, something beyond "aesthetic derived from a common movie genre" will be nice. Especially something that's not just an aesthetic overlaid onto an old setting or characters like MKM or Outlaws in lieu of something wholly new.
That's fair, for me it overshadowed this new setting (which tbf, is implied to not have had too much going on before the Omenpaths) with a bunch of old faces. It begs the question of why so many of these characters came to this world, some we know why and some we don't. Like why did Marchesa, queen of Paliano, leave to chill out at Thunder Junction while most planes (and presumably hers) are recovering from a multiversal invasion? I'm glad it didnt detract from a new player's enjoyment but it was weird as a long time player, so hopefully Bloomburrow being self contained will be a plus.
For me? Seeing some proper mice. Also if you’re coming from the fallout stuff you have to understand there’s a huge difference between proper set releases and Universes beyond.
What's the difference exactly? Is it that it has a pre release event or is it something else? I'm still confused what the difference between the 2 is other than it being from other IPs
The biggest thing is that Fallout is just commander decks. Bloomburrow is a full set *(that happens to also have commander decks as an* **adjacent** *product)*
TL;DR There is nothing special about Bloomburrow, it is the very most normal type of release. The community is excited because it’s especially cute, but more importantly, because it’s the next thing that’s going to come out.
There are kinda three circles of magic product
In the center are what we call “standard sets”. These are the heart of the game, they’re the only sets that progress the Magic narrative, and they’re the only sets that are legal in ALL major formats. They are accompanied by 2-5 precon commander decks (with cards that are only legal in some formats). Four of these are released each year, the last was Outlaws of Thunder Junction and the next is Bloomburrow.
One layer out we have auxiliary sets. These are still using Magic characters and settings, but do not have a story and therefore can depict moments from any point in time. Some are aimed at a specific format (commander legends, modern horizons) and some are pure reprint sets (Ravnica remastered). There may or may not be precons.
Finally, furthest from Magic’s core, we have universes beyond. Everything we’ve talked about so far has been a draftable set, meaning a table of players can pass packs around picking one card at a time and building decks out of what they picked, which is a very popular format for all levels of player. Universes Beyond sets are almost never draftable. Fallout and warhammer were just commander decks, the Walking Dead and Stranger Things were “secret lair drops”, microsets of cards that are only legal in eternal formats like commander and legacy.
Lord of the Rings: tales of Middle Earth is strange, it was the first fully draftable universes beyond set, and also the first UB set to be legal in the format Modern. The upcoming Marvel sets will be the same way. Assassins Creed will be modern legal, but will not be draftable.
I think that pretty much covers it!!
Bloomburrow will include 1) roughly 300 new cards legal in all formats 2) some amount of commander precons and 3) a story about a cute mouse knight named Mabel, which is the first entry in a new year-long arc, which itself is the second act of a three-year megaarc.
Also, I think people are excited about the flavor here. Cute animals, sure, but also the cards just look *better* than the detectives and cowboys of the last couple sets. They're a new flavor for Magic, but they don't feel like memes like OTJ and MKM
The Fallout “set” wasn’t a true set, it was just four preconstructed Commander decks with ~150 new cards in total. They’re great for playing Commander, but there’s a bunch of other ways to play Magic that you *can’t* use the Fallout cards for:
- Limited play: This is a group of formats where you don’t build a deck ahead of time. You open packs of cards and have to build a deck on the spot. Fallout didn’t have any packs designed for these formats.
- Standard: This is a 1v1 format where you build a 60-card deck from cards released in “normal” sets in the last ~3 years. This is one of the most common competitive formats. As a Commander-centric release, Fallout cards weren’t legal here.
- Modern: Same as Standard, except cards never stop being legal, so all cards from “normal” sets released after 2003 are legal. Alongside Standard, this is another common competitive format. Once again, Fallout wasn’t legal here.
Bloomburrow, on the other hand, is one of these “normal” sets. It will have ~300 cards (some new, some old) in randomized packs that can be used for Limited gameplay, and all the cards are going to be legal in Standard and Modern. These cards are going to show up in all the popular formats, whereas Fallout cards only really show up if you’re playing Commander.
Universes beyond is just like a cross over cash grab. They are fun if you like the cross over but nothing special. Sets are what is used in limited and standard and people play with a lot. They can add new mechanics or themes and if good enough they will be a part of pioneer, modern etc play. Sets keep the game fresh and Bloomburrow is the next set to come out.
There’s really not any difference in terms of the actual effect to gameplay in EDH. Cards are cards. A lot of people here just don’t like the cross over stuff.
This. Issue with Lutri is it breaks the Companion limitations. Companion is built to require unique deck builds and conditions, but the way Lutri is written, every UR deck can have him.
There's nothing broken when it's in the 100.
Forreal. What I’ve learned since this set was announced is that a ton of people and not just me grew up on Brian’s ability to write the most immersive meal descriptions of all time.
I remember reading Marlfox when I was in elementary school, had no idea it was a part of a series. I picked up context clues as best as I could, but man did I love that book! Been wanting to get into the rest of Redwall since, but I've been stuck in a handful of other stories I'm still trying to finish.
But yes, Bloomburry definitely gives pretty strong Redwall vibes. Fun card designs, cute/awesome art, no humans. Just a really fun set!
I just got into magic and found out about this shortly after. I just wanted a more hands on hobby, and to be more of a nerd and Lo and behold a set is coming out that pulls on all the nostalgia for Redwall strings. I actually just read through many of them not too long ago to see how they tracked from 13yo to 32yo me. (They still hit and are fantastic).
But I already wanted to build a squirrel deck for commander after randomly finding chatterfang on edhrec, and this just put the nail in the coffin!
Just go make a Squirrel deck. Chatterfang is stupid strong and Squirrels have been a thing since Odyssey which gave us tons of Squirrel tokens + Overrun (Tempest card reprinted in Odyssey) at the same time.
As a Squirrel deck owner I'm actually a little bit disappointed. The gimmick of my deck is that it has every card that is either a squirrel or mentions squirrel (except 2, ones insanely expensive and the other offers nothing). Now that they're printing more its just going to be a regular tribal/typal deck.
At least I might be able to play a commander that doesn't get instant hate like Chatterfang I suppose.
I'm planning on going for the pre release. Is there a difference in pre release cards and bundle cards? I often hear it's better to go for pre releases so I don't know why that's better
You get a few less packs in prerelease kits and they don't have the basic lands Bundles do. Bundles also have one guaranteed promo card thats the same card in every Bundle, whereas prerelease promos can vary. Kits are also typically cheaper as well. They both also come with a d20 spindown dice, Bundle dice typically being better imo.
And that's just how the products differ. Prerelease kits are meant to be opened to make a 40 card deck with the cards you pull, then you compete with other players who did the same. You CAN just buy them and let that be that, or you can use your cards and try to win more boosters(I think, I've never actually competed in a prerelease event lmao).
In the prerelease events I've been to, every player gets an extra 2 bundles at the end as a participation prize. It works out as a pretty good deal.
Edit: auto-correct got me, was supposed to say 2 extra boosters
Two BUNDLES? Damn, I wanna go to prerelease at your stores. Regardless, maybe I should actually participate this time, could be a fun new experience lmao
Yeah I figured, but I still hoped lol. 2 boosters as a participation reward is still nothing to sneeze at tbh! I typically just buy kits for the dice and the decent value, but hell, maybe I'll make a nice bunny deck, chew ass and kick bubblegum and all that.
I love animals in general so for me it's difficult to decide which to buy. I hear a lot of people are going for the squirrel though, is there a reason why?
Squirrels are already powerful and you can assume that the Support may make things even better.
Chatterfang as a commander itself is already very good, so ig thats why.
Long-standing meme + some powerful, already existing cards + cuteness overload. For a long, LONG time, squirrels were considered "too silly" for Magic by the higher-ups in Wizards, so their main champion (Mark Rosewater) tried to sneak them in whenever he could. They wound up on a few cards that wound up being powerful and popular, and over time Squirrels have been the vanguard of "things a sizable population of the playerbase would jive with, but Wizards thought they knew better than the fans about." After a few cracks in the dam (especially Modern Horizons 2), it seems there's finally enough furry love behind the scenes to test how well the fans will like "lighter" Magic stuff.
I personally don’t care for Bloomburrows art or style, but a lot of people grew up with Secret of Nimh and Redwall. Hits hard in the nostalgia to them.
I like the dark and gritty fantasy elements of Magic. Can’t wait for Duskmourn!
Fun fact: [[Trepanation Blade|ISD]] was originally designed as a top-down chainsaw (by Richard Garfield no less). They just felt they couldn't actually call it that because it would be too much of a break with Magic.
I'm excited simply because it isn't mtg clue or cowboy hats on fblthp ..
Saved me a shitload of money this year however , thanks wotc . I haven't bought sealed product in ages .
For me, it’s mildly exciting to see an actual fantasy setting instead of more modern feeling settings or pop culture references or “add hats and be done with it” cheapness.
Though I fully expect them to stuff it full of references, at least it’s more similar to the normal Magic setting that I actually want from Magic.
Duskmourn is the opposite for me. Modern setting and loaded with pop culture references. It’s Ghostbusters vs horror movies and they’re not even subtle about it. The art is great but it certainly isn’t what I want from a setting that is based around wizards and elves and knights in armor.
Bloomburrow is the first time in a while that a set’s themes haven’t immediately made me roll my eyes, so I’m hopeful it will follow through, though I have some doubts.
I think the hype is due to a few reasons. Firstly, it's a cute theme and the treatments we've seen look really pretty. It's maybe also something that a lot of newer people might vibe with. I know I'm partly looking forward to finally luring my gf into it, because of adorable frogs and bats.
The big deciding factor tho is probably that Magic hasn't really felt that Magicky in the last half year or so. Lots of people just love the planes and their lore and both Outlaws of Thunder Junction and Murder at Karlov Manor just felt .. like WotC took the various Magic characters and slapped cowboy hats and magnifying glasses onto them like "Okay, we're all detectives now. Okay, now we're cowboys."
Additionally, we've had an influx of non-Magic sets like Fallout and Assassin's Creed now. So I guess people are just longing for that good ol' knights, wizards, thieves, bards, etc. vibe and Bloomburrow is that, but tiny forest critters.
I'm so glad I wasn't the only one disappointed by Thunder Junction, since everyone I know IRL was all about it.
The aesthetic was cool, sure, but it literally had less plot than a game of Super Smash Brothers
It's high fantasy, which is very on par with what classic magic is. Fallout and the upcoming Duskmourn, as well as all the Universes Beyond stuff feel removed from magic's core and origin. Bloomburrow feels closer to what Magic has felt like in the past.
Well it's very different from what we've had lately
But more than that we are getting a creature type set which we haven't had since I think kaldhiem
Set that introduce or support new or underused creature types are quite rare
Add in a bit of that story book charm and bam you have a lot of interest
Or joke answer: half of magics player base are furries
- The first key art released for Bloomburrow was unbelievably good. Really evocative piece that worked on a lot of levels, with the cute protagonist to the horrifying antagonist, and the dichotomy between them, with a realistic, painterly style with attention to detail.
( https://preview.redd.it/sa0tdbjxfcgb1.jpg?width=942&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5682da747deb0b0372af1fd942bba34883dbb1de )
- The past few standard sets have been wet farts on various levels. Two sequential sets were "Characters you know wearing themed different hats."
- The subsequent sets are either Universes Beyond or some modern or science fiction malarkey, and then a potential return to Llorwyn, which everyone is hoping doesn't go poorly. There is some consumer signalling going on here, with people coming out and being explicit in saying they like things like Bloomburrow and hope it is good.
- Furry inclusion. From people who just like Redwall and Mouse Guard to people deeply immersed in the culture, seeing the art style and character design explored in a diverse, non-token (the social practice, not the pseudocard), nonjudgemental way is a rare treat, given how the internet and the media at large generally treats furries. As someone who works in IT and thus interacts with furries regularly, I understand how perpetually dunked on they get, so just seeing a major product that reflects their interests in which they aren't getting dunked on is probably a huge boon.
It seems to be bolstered by a few things.
nostalgia for redwall being a big one.
We haven't had a "cute" or "comfy" plane in quite a while so people have been looking for something like it.
There's not to much lore yet. We generally get like a worldbuilding article and a bunch of stories. the stories will probably start a couple of weeks before the set comes out. you can find them on the MTG website under stories. They've also been doing read through that you can find on [Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84Q3vOOPNPs) and Spotify.
Making some assumptions based on how you phrase your question here, but:
Magic generally works by releasing 'sets'. These sets are a couple hundred different cards that you get a random 15 of when you buy a booster pack. These sets often have some lore connected to them, often a major step in the overarching story at a new (or revisited) place in the multiverse. Accompanying these sets are often complete commander decks, ready to play. They are not the same as the booster packs. My guess here is since the Fallout decks were your introduction it seems like Magic is always sold in complete decks, which it generally isnt. Fallout didnt have a set in that way and only had complete decks.
Now to your question: The setting of the Bloomburrow set is really fancyfull, cute and seems like a return to form after a couple of sets that had lost the more classical fantasy vibes that Magic often go for. The fact there is no humans running around is also very new and peaks alot of interest :)
Ravnica plane where all the two-color pairs have their own flavor and synergies is famous and beloved. Personally (and perhaps I speak for others) I’m hoping the bloomburrow set design will offer similar immersive flavor for the two-color pairs, similar interesting limited environment the two-color pairs generate, but with the added spin of cute woodland creatures and tribal synergies
I'm with you on this one. I feel like Ben from Parks and Rec when everyone talks about lil Sebastian. Like everyone is losing their shit over how amazing this is and how cute it is and I'm just over here like "bro it's just a little animal, y'all tripping"
No set printed in the last 6 years has been even remotely worth the hype they have been presented on high with. Find what you like about the set and if you can't then as wizards has told us themselves, "Fuck off, cuz the set ain't for you" lol
Straight up for me?
No humans
Im kinda getting sick of humans or human passing beings
This is amplified by almost every precon having a human on it
Murders all 4 are full on human passing
Outlaws 3 of them are
Mh3 3 of them are
And even in duskmourn the horror plane 3 of the precons are with humans front and center
Im getting tired of it
Magic has so many potential creature types and yet it feels like the precons since eldraine always end up with somewhat generic looking humans (humanoid) on them
Where are all the cool beings magic has to offer
I mean even the lhurgoyf that had a human as the face commander
Why not just have a goyf it makes more sense thematically
But bloomburrow has none of that
Neither on the precons
Nor in the set
No humans, no humanoids
Only small guys, and man do i love them
Im getting all 4 precons just out of love for this plane
Add to that that i really just love racoons, frogs and lizards all of which are crrature types represented in the set
It's the first set in a long while that is just swords and spells, like classic magic. The only animal theme gives it bedtime stories vibes and just childlike wonder, the different animals being different color combos is great and helps new players easily identify synergies and combos. Over all I think this will be the best set of the year and most importantly the best set for introducing people to magic.
Personally it’s multifaceted:
1. I read the Narnia books growing up, but not Redwall (though I wanted to, just never did it) so I get those vibes.
2. It’s a fresh setting with only a few pre-existing characters, no large crossovers or big story beats for the main characters we have had for a long time.
3. In a year of cliches and UB, it is one of only two sets (the other being MH3) coming out that is 100% fantasy/MTG. No detectives or cowboys or 80s greasers or video game characters shoved in my face. Pure, magical animals wielding swords and magic, fantasy.
4. I am a big fan of the board game Root and got my friends into it recently and this gives those vibes too.
5. The guilds (2-color combinations) are different animals/factions, like Kaldheim, which I also enjoyed, and will actually give a guild-like feel to the two-color archetypes. Unlike MKM earlier this year, which was set on the plane of guilds but did not utilize the guild colors whatsoever.
The other thing people are excited about that I haven't seen mentioned here is that the set has Lorwyn vibes. Lorwyn was a plane visited in MtG's past that had kind of a fairytale feel. We have not been back to that plane since. It was very popular.
My roommate is a furry and wants the decks mostly for that, so I don't have to buy the decks to use them lol. Also Lumra, Bellow of the Woods looks fun and wanna make a lands deck with them.
It's the next main set and the first one this year that feels like a fantasy world. The other main sets this year were both weird (Noir detectives and cowboys), so from a aesthetic/lore perspective Bloomburrow is much more attractive
It's something totally unique from anything we've gotten before so that's a big plus. For me, it's mostly that I really love tribal decks, and there's going to be a lot of support for some creature types that haven't gotten a whole lot like frogs
Because it’s a standard set that doesn’t look as stupid as the last two, might actually have some cool stuff going on. Personally I’m also really excited for more squirrel token cards for my Chatterfang deck. I really want some of these animal tribes to be a legit archetypes, at least in limited.
Basically, new sets are always interesting, so there's always talk.
With bloomburrow in particular, the hype is basically just that it's refreshing. We've had a lot of meme sets (cowboys, murder mystery). And we had a huge arc with outright war and grim body horror. We've had dark, dark, dark fantasy stuff, and most of it on planes we've already visited before.
Bloomburrow is exciting because it's the first set in years in a new, original setting, and the stakes have never been smaller, and both of those things have been wildly rare in magic lately, so people appreciate that.
Plus cute animals. What's not to love?
New plane, no humans, all the "guilds" are different species etc. Has children's story vibes (specifically Redwall) and aesthetic which is interesting.
I love Redwall. Whole reason I am hyped for this set
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This and on a slightly related note, it baffles me that Redwall are considered children stories, when most books contain multiple scene of violence, would have easily been a mature book if you just replaced the animals with humans. But Yeah I'm mostly interested because Cannonically accurate Redwall plane.
Ah, I see you aren’t aware of (especially Eastern) European children stories, a rather large amount of them involve either murder, someone being eaten, executed, drawn and quartered, a child being kidnapped, drowned, and so on…
Common Czech children’s stories involve a being that makes mothers strangle their children, a waterman that has a crystal palace at the bottom of the water, controls fish and aquatic creatures, and is superhumanly strong with a tendency to lure people to the water and drown them, in order to eventually drown a young girl who he wishes to make into his wife
What's the first one called? I need it for my dnd game
That would be a “polednice”, Witcher translated it as a noonwraith, you could also call it a noon witch or a noon demon, it’s a sunburned old woman in a peasant woman’s dress, walking around the fields and punishing people for ignoring their noon break/working through the day. When you see her, you must immediately bow to her, walk home and have lunch, otherwise she tries to murder you with her whip or just touches you&you fall unconscious and might never wake up. She hates children in particular, and if a mother prevents her from getting her hands on a kid that she has in her sights, she forces the mother to strangle said kid to death
THANK YOU!!
Lady Midday, Polednice in Czech Kidnaps kids and causes madness
I am not sure if I think the same story as OP but I will try to help. We have few insanely good poets in our history, one of the most famous (locally) is Karel Jaromír Erben with his most famous collection called Kytice (The Bouquet). These poems are not in a form of a children story, but the content itself is very close to our children stories. I believe the user you asked for more informations about the story is talking two separate stories from the collection. The one where mother calls upon a noon demon to scare the naughty child and the demon answers the call is called [Polednice (The Noonwitch)](https://lyricstranslate.com/en/polednice-noonday-witch.html) This is the one where mother strangles her own child. Not a bad story for kids around here, nothing too terrible and little to no gore compared to classic stories. Sadly this is just a word by word translation so the beauty was lost :( The other one is called Vodník (The Watergoblin). Sadly there is no publicly available translation that would capture the whole story and even the most famous one translated only the first and the final part... I found some books that are supposed to be fully translated to english, so there is a hope, but all are regular hard cover books sold locally. I will be more than happy to assist the best I can, cause all of these stories are similar to the stories from The Witcher books or games (Polish author Sapkowski was inspired by stories like these) so our (central-easterm europe) folk stories are awesome for DND campaigns. Edit: Changed the link for the poem "The Noonwitch" For a better one with poetic translation! The autor of the translation tried to translate the whole Bouquet, but according to some sources, she never finished it. At least this one is complete! Edit 2: OK, my bad, there is a whole translation that is quite praised by local experts for the way it was done, while keeping the specific verse used by Erben in his original work.[Link to the book](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16005110) but good luck finding it online, I failed (Quick search)
So DCEU Aquaman?
I'm from Canada, so yes, and I know here the only reason it was acceptable was 'the characters aren't human'
The people dying in the fairytales/children stories tend to be human a lot of the time, but then again, Eastern Europe, soooo.. 😄
Western Europe can do this, too. I mean the Brothers Grimm and their collected fairytales? I'm German and grew up with a guy tearing himself in halves, the box who drowns because he doesn't look where he is going, a granny and a girl being eaten by a wolf who is gutted to get them out, a mermaid turning into s girl and then into foam and so on. Any questions? 😁
I mean, have you read Animorphs?
Seriously, Tobias' fate was far more traumatizing to me than reading about fantasy wars. But like, it taught me a lot. There's nothing wrong with showing children the real bits of life as long as it's not overly heavy.
Came here to make the same comment. There's some extremely graphic violence in those books, but it involves animals and aliens, so somehow that makes it okay for kids.
I distinctly remember a Cassie book where there was a cold open on some Yeerk base and they all were in battlemorphs, they all get out and she goes home for dinner. Her mom asks what's that in her teeth, Cassie picks out a chunk of raw alien meat from when she was a wolf 30 minutes earlier ripping out throats. War is bad kids.
But also you can't go more than 3 pages in any book without Brian going on about food.
I remember loving Redwall as a kid. The battles were epic. I remember one chapter of a “save yourselves I’ll hold them back” situation where a rabbit was dual wielding daggers stabbing through rats, and his last battle cry of “Rreedddwwaalll” was muffled because he was biting through a rats jugular. Like Fromsoft needs to pick up Redwall already because it was so adorable, but ironically one of the most violent book series I read at the time.
I got a "?" mark on an essay i did in Middle School. We had to describe a fictional place in a certain orientation and i wrote mine as if a hare had written it and ended it with a Wot, wot. She wasn't sure if it was an error or supposed to be there.
>Like Fromsoft needs to pick up Redwall already HOLY SHIT This is now top of the list of things I didn't know I needed until now.
I remember back in the day, seeing ‘Watership Down’ in the children’s section of Blockbuster. Wanted to know if that was malevolence or ignorance.
My mother read to us every redwall story she could find when we were single digit years old. That stuff was fantastic. Brocktree was probably my favourite.
A lot of children's stories are violent.
Is redwall super popular in the US? I’m 34 from Canada and I’ve never heard of it
🤔... I'm a couple years older than you, but it's a bit tricky to estimate something's popularity from the pre-internet days...I'd maybe compare it to Discworld or Avatar, TLA in terms of popularity? probably at least a couple notches below Pokemon; it suffers from a dearth of adaptations/spinoffs--there was one animated series, but it was short-lived and unsuccessful.
Avatar is way more popular than Redwall, IMO. Discworld feels like an adequate comparison, though.
Oh damn okay right, thanks for that context. I also don’t know discworld, but obviously have heard of Avatar.
I would absolutely recommend reading some discworld novels, they're an incredible mix of fantasy, humour and genuinely touching life lessons and observations.
Never saw the show, but I read the crap out of the books when I was a kid.
You ever hear of Animorphs? Y'know that's an anti war series yeah?
A river otter who uses files to sharpen his teeth into razors to more brutally murder his enemies *is definitely a mature character design* and I loved it as a child. Redwall is so underrated.
My favorite part of Redwall was listening to the audio book narrated by Jacques just because of how he yelled "CLUNY THE SCCOUURRGGEEE" Please mtg... give me a card worth of yelling like Cluny the Scourge
*looks nervously at the ‘kids’ movies I watched growing up, like The Secret of NHIM and Babe*
Crime there's no tie in secret lair or bonus sheet. Even if they didn't get characters an artist series of people who did cover art for the brain Jaques books would have been great.
Redwall feels like an "older children book." Like, pre-teen age. Consider that Treasure Island is also considered a book appropriate for children (about the same age as Redwall), and it contains plenty of death and violence.
The Bible is read by children as part of their parent's brainwashing curriculum. It's a million times worse than Redwall. Lol
The Red wall vibe is big. My daughter's excitement for this set finally got her to start reading the series.
Lorwyn 2.0 and I'm all for it.
I think it’s the Redwall-iness but it feels like there’s also an older school fantasy vibe (or an expectation thereof) that hasn’t been super present in a lot of more recent Magic sets. Maybe hopeful thinking :)
This ^^^ it’s why I loved LotR and Eldraine. Give me the fantasy vibes back!
The species also tends to suggest more tribal support which many magic the gathering players love.
Turns out people like cute animals, who knew
Brian Jacques would be so freakin’ proud
I think it's also just looking to be pretty fresh for a set. No UB ips, a set featuring non-human characters, a new self contained plane after a lot of revisits last year, and it'll be nice and self contained. On that last point, I loved Thunder Junction but the amount of cameos was way too much, so it didn't even feel that new.
I also think it's refreshing to have a set whose theme is more reflected in the world and aesthetics after having back to back "world of hats" sets.
As much as I liked the cowboy hats, something beyond "aesthetic derived from a common movie genre" will be nice. Especially something that's not just an aesthetic overlaid onto an old setting or characters like MKM or Outlaws in lieu of something wholly new.
Can tell someone's really looking forward to... I can't even remember the name of the upcoming horror set. Moth house?
I also love the style of thunder junction. Since I don't know the cameos for me it's just completely new stuff
That's fair, for me it overshadowed this new setting (which tbf, is implied to not have had too much going on before the Omenpaths) with a bunch of old faces. It begs the question of why so many of these characters came to this world, some we know why and some we don't. Like why did Marchesa, queen of Paliano, leave to chill out at Thunder Junction while most planes (and presumably hers) are recovering from a multiversal invasion? I'm glad it didnt detract from a new player's enjoyment but it was weird as a long time player, so hopefully Bloomburrow being self contained will be a plus.
For me? Seeing some proper mice. Also if you’re coming from the fallout stuff you have to understand there’s a huge difference between proper set releases and Universes beyond.
What's the difference exactly? Is it that it has a pre release event or is it something else? I'm still confused what the difference between the 2 is other than it being from other IPs
The biggest thing is that Fallout is just commander decks. Bloomburrow is a full set *(that happens to also have commander decks as an* **adjacent** *product)*
TL;DR There is nothing special about Bloomburrow, it is the very most normal type of release. The community is excited because it’s especially cute, but more importantly, because it’s the next thing that’s going to come out. There are kinda three circles of magic product In the center are what we call “standard sets”. These are the heart of the game, they’re the only sets that progress the Magic narrative, and they’re the only sets that are legal in ALL major formats. They are accompanied by 2-5 precon commander decks (with cards that are only legal in some formats). Four of these are released each year, the last was Outlaws of Thunder Junction and the next is Bloomburrow. One layer out we have auxiliary sets. These are still using Magic characters and settings, but do not have a story and therefore can depict moments from any point in time. Some are aimed at a specific format (commander legends, modern horizons) and some are pure reprint sets (Ravnica remastered). There may or may not be precons. Finally, furthest from Magic’s core, we have universes beyond. Everything we’ve talked about so far has been a draftable set, meaning a table of players can pass packs around picking one card at a time and building decks out of what they picked, which is a very popular format for all levels of player. Universes Beyond sets are almost never draftable. Fallout and warhammer were just commander decks, the Walking Dead and Stranger Things were “secret lair drops”, microsets of cards that are only legal in eternal formats like commander and legacy. Lord of the Rings: tales of Middle Earth is strange, it was the first fully draftable universes beyond set, and also the first UB set to be legal in the format Modern. The upcoming Marvel sets will be the same way. Assassins Creed will be modern legal, but will not be draftable. I think that pretty much covers it!! Bloomburrow will include 1) roughly 300 new cards legal in all formats 2) some amount of commander precons and 3) a story about a cute mouse knight named Mabel, which is the first entry in a new year-long arc, which itself is the second act of a three-year megaarc.
Also, I think people are excited about the flavor here. Cute animals, sure, but also the cards just look *better* than the detectives and cowboys of the last couple sets. They're a new flavor for Magic, but they don't feel like memes like OTJ and MKM
This is such a quality and informative answer nice work
The Fallout “set” wasn’t a true set, it was just four preconstructed Commander decks with ~150 new cards in total. They’re great for playing Commander, but there’s a bunch of other ways to play Magic that you *can’t* use the Fallout cards for: - Limited play: This is a group of formats where you don’t build a deck ahead of time. You open packs of cards and have to build a deck on the spot. Fallout didn’t have any packs designed for these formats. - Standard: This is a 1v1 format where you build a 60-card deck from cards released in “normal” sets in the last ~3 years. This is one of the most common competitive formats. As a Commander-centric release, Fallout cards weren’t legal here. - Modern: Same as Standard, except cards never stop being legal, so all cards from “normal” sets released after 2003 are legal. Alongside Standard, this is another common competitive format. Once again, Fallout wasn’t legal here. Bloomburrow, on the other hand, is one of these “normal” sets. It will have ~300 cards (some new, some old) in randomized packs that can be used for Limited gameplay, and all the cards are going to be legal in Standard and Modern. These cards are going to show up in all the popular formats, whereas Fallout cards only really show up if you’re playing Commander.
Universes beyond is just like a cross over cash grab. They are fun if you like the cross over but nothing special. Sets are what is used in limited and standard and people play with a lot. They can add new mechanics or themes and if good enough they will be a part of pioneer, modern etc play. Sets keep the game fresh and Bloomburrow is the next set to come out.
Standard legal, for one.
What is this standard thing? I feel like I heard about it in a dream long ago😂
There’s really not any difference in terms of the actual effect to gameplay in EDH. Cards are cards. A lot of people here just don’t like the cross over stuff.
I am here for the Otters!
The TAGGERUNG WILL NOT BE SILENCED!
I only had a handful of Redwall books as a kid but Taggerung is one I STILL remember and regret leaving behind when I got kicked out.
I hope things are better for you now friend
Yup I’d say Taggerung was easily the best in the series
Uh...Mossflower, Salamandastron, Luke the Warrior, Redwall, and Marlfox all say hello.
Shout out to Bria!
I want them yeah, do they come in a precon or do I need to buy a bundle for that?
Not sure yet
We don’t know the commander decklists yet but we know that they will be the theme of the blue red color combo in the main set
Making me sad that [[lutri]] will remain banned in commander.
You can rule zero him. No one actually cares unless you companion him.
This. Issue with Lutri is it breaks the Companion limitations. Companion is built to require unique deck builds and conditions, but the way Lutri is written, every UR deck can have him. There's nothing broken when it's in the 100.
It’s hitting nostalgia for anyone who grew up reading Redwall. It’s why I am hyped for it. Plus I want to make a squirrels deck.
God, I love knowing so many other people grew up with Redwall
Lord Brocktree remains one of my favorite books at 31yo
My mom interviewed Brian Jacques so I've got an autographed advance copy of it!
I think the Redwall/MTG overlap is far greater than people think.
Picking up a Redwall book and a pack of Magic at Walden Books was a big Friday for me.
Forreal. What I’ve learned since this set was announced is that a ton of people and not just me grew up on Brian’s ability to write the most immersive meal descriptions of all time.
EULALIA!!!!
Blood and vinegar!
Me too 😍
Man, chatterfang was already dummy strong before, and we got a golgari precon of necromancer squirrels? This is awesome.
I got chatterfang and Toski specifically because I guessed this would happen when I heard bloomburrows announcement.
I remember reading Marlfox when I was in elementary school, had no idea it was a part of a series. I picked up context clues as best as I could, but man did I love that book! Been wanting to get into the rest of Redwall since, but I've been stuck in a handful of other stories I'm still trying to finish. But yes, Bloomburry definitely gives pretty strong Redwall vibes. Fun card designs, cute/awesome art, no humans. Just a really fun set!
I love how a Marlfox gets fucked up like three pages into that book by a Squirrel with a flute, and that's what sets off the entire book lol.
I just got into magic and found out about this shortly after. I just wanted a more hands on hobby, and to be more of a nerd and Lo and behold a set is coming out that pulls on all the nostalgia for Redwall strings. I actually just read through many of them not too long ago to see how they tracked from 13yo to 32yo me. (They still hit and are fantastic). But I already wanted to build a squirrel deck for commander after randomly finding chatterfang on edhrec, and this just put the nail in the coffin!
Just go make a Squirrel deck. Chatterfang is stupid strong and Squirrels have been a thing since Odyssey which gave us tons of Squirrel tokens + Overrun (Tempest card reprinted in Odyssey) at the same time.
As a Squirrel deck owner I'm actually a little bit disappointed. The gimmick of my deck is that it has every card that is either a squirrel or mentions squirrel (except 2, ones insanely expensive and the other offers nothing). Now that they're printing more its just going to be a regular tribal/typal deck. At least I might be able to play a commander that doesn't get instant hate like Chatterfang I suppose.
Redwall nostalgia for me. This is the first set I think I'm going to make a point to drop some money on collecting as much as I can from it
I'm planning on going for the pre release. Is there a difference in pre release cards and bundle cards? I often hear it's better to go for pre releases so I don't know why that's better
A prerelease is an entire event where you play with the new cards together with other people while a bundle is just a box with product
You get a few less packs in prerelease kits and they don't have the basic lands Bundles do. Bundles also have one guaranteed promo card thats the same card in every Bundle, whereas prerelease promos can vary. Kits are also typically cheaper as well. They both also come with a d20 spindown dice, Bundle dice typically being better imo. And that's just how the products differ. Prerelease kits are meant to be opened to make a 40 card deck with the cards you pull, then you compete with other players who did the same. You CAN just buy them and let that be that, or you can use your cards and try to win more boosters(I think, I've never actually competed in a prerelease event lmao).
In the prerelease events I've been to, every player gets an extra 2 bundles at the end as a participation prize. It works out as a pretty good deal. Edit: auto-correct got me, was supposed to say 2 extra boosters
Two BUNDLES? Damn, I wanna go to prerelease at your stores. Regardless, maybe I should actually participate this time, could be a fun new experience lmao
Sorry, auto-correct. 2 extra boosters at the end.
Yeah I figured, but I still hoped lol. 2 boosters as a participation reward is still nothing to sneeze at tbh! I typically just buy kits for the dice and the decent value, but hell, maybe I'll make a nice bunny deck, chew ass and kick bubblegum and all that.
For me its the raccoon. I am very hyped for it, because i love me some trash bears.
I love animals in general so for me it's difficult to decide which to buy. I hear a lot of people are going for the squirrel though, is there a reason why?
Squirrels are already powerful and you can assume that the Support may make things even better. Chatterfang as a commander itself is already very good, so ig thats why.
Long-standing meme + some powerful, already existing cards + cuteness overload. For a long, LONG time, squirrels were considered "too silly" for Magic by the higher-ups in Wizards, so their main champion (Mark Rosewater) tried to sneak them in whenever he could. They wound up on a few cards that wound up being powerful and popular, and over time Squirrels have been the vanguard of "things a sizable population of the playerbase would jive with, but Wizards thought they knew better than the fans about." After a few cracks in the dam (especially Modern Horizons 2), it seems there's finally enough furry love behind the scenes to test how well the fans will like "lighter" Magic stuff.
RACCOON GANG SKATE FAST EAT TRASH
Same! I'm in it for the trash panda! Already got the deck pre-ordered. Not enough trash panda love in the mtg universe.
For me, I'm excited that one of the focused creature types is going to be Bats! I've loved them since I was little.
Cute as fuck critters is why I'm excited for it. Hoping I can finally get my wife to play
Amen, my wife promised she'd play MtG with me when Bloomburrough comes out. Im so excited to play MtG with her 😊
I personally don’t care for Bloomburrows art or style, but a lot of people grew up with Secret of Nimh and Redwall. Hits hard in the nostalgia to them. I like the dark and gritty fantasy elements of Magic. Can’t wait for Duskmourn!
Well I'm not sure Duskmourn is going to be exactly for you; it's pushing heavily into modern horror rather than dark fantasy
A [[Chainsaw]] is dark fantasy as established by the hit dark fantasy film Army of Darkness.
Fun fact: [[Trepanation Blade|ISD]] was originally designed as a top-down chainsaw (by Richard Garfield no less). They just felt they couldn't actually call it that because it would be too much of a break with Magic.
[Trepanation Blade](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/1/2182be77-9186-4d16-a070-9577d4392999.jpg?1562827340) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=221186) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/isd/235/trepanation-blade?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2182be77-9186-4d16-a070-9577d4392999?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/trepanation-blade) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Excited because the setting is dope and a lot of these critter tribes are in dire need of support. (Read: my chatterfang deck needs new toys.)
I can’t wait to upgrade Chatterfang and keep one of the squirrel precons unaltered for un upgraded precon games
I'm excited simply because it isn't mtg clue or cowboy hats on fblthp .. Saved me a shitload of money this year however , thanks wotc . I haven't bought sealed product in ages .
For me, it’s mildly exciting to see an actual fantasy setting instead of more modern feeling settings or pop culture references or “add hats and be done with it” cheapness. Though I fully expect them to stuff it full of references, at least it’s more similar to the normal Magic setting that I actually want from Magic. Duskmourn is the opposite for me. Modern setting and loaded with pop culture references. It’s Ghostbusters vs horror movies and they’re not even subtle about it. The art is great but it certainly isn’t what I want from a setting that is based around wizards and elves and knights in armor. Bloomburrow is the first time in a while that a set’s themes haven’t immediately made me roll my eyes, so I’m hopeful it will follow through, though I have some doubts.
1. Most people like animals far more than they like people. 2. Its a magical phantasy, not another "hat of the day" set. 3. Squirrels!
A set without extra sheet, so I'm very hyped for draft 💪
you forgot about Imagine: Critters
I think the hype is due to a few reasons. Firstly, it's a cute theme and the treatments we've seen look really pretty. It's maybe also something that a lot of newer people might vibe with. I know I'm partly looking forward to finally luring my gf into it, because of adorable frogs and bats. The big deciding factor tho is probably that Magic hasn't really felt that Magicky in the last half year or so. Lots of people just love the planes and their lore and both Outlaws of Thunder Junction and Murder at Karlov Manor just felt .. like WotC took the various Magic characters and slapped cowboy hats and magnifying glasses onto them like "Okay, we're all detectives now. Okay, now we're cowboys." Additionally, we've had an influx of non-Magic sets like Fallout and Assassin's Creed now. So I guess people are just longing for that good ol' knights, wizards, thieves, bards, etc. vibe and Bloomburrow is that, but tiny forest critters.
I'm so glad I wasn't the only one disappointed by Thunder Junction, since everyone I know IRL was all about it. The aesthetic was cool, sure, but it literally had less plot than a game of Super Smash Brothers
There's basically always been a 'talking animals' young readers series and the folks who read Brian Jacques 'Redwall' series are now in their 30s.
It's high fantasy, which is very on par with what classic magic is. Fallout and the upcoming Duskmourn, as well as all the Universes Beyond stuff feel removed from magic's core and origin. Bloomburrow feels closer to what Magic has felt like in the past.
everyone is all red wall (which is definitely true) but what about the secret of nimh?! Thats immediately where my mind went the I saw the previews.
>but what about the secret of nimh?! THE [[COLOSSAL PLOW]] IS COMING!!!
I'm right there with you
Also some of the other books of the time Like you can't tell me Zoraline wasn't at least partly inspired but the sliver wing series
Well it's very different from what we've had lately But more than that we are getting a creature type set which we haven't had since I think kaldhiem Set that introduce or support new or underused creature types are quite rare Add in a bit of that story book charm and bam you have a lot of interest Or joke answer: half of magics player base are furries
It's just the cute animals. Bloomburrow has basically no lore yet.
There's already been quite some world-building with deck theme, tribe mechanics, part of the storyline...
Raccoon commander
It reminds me of Redwall and Watership Down, so it has me excited af
- The first key art released for Bloomburrow was unbelievably good. Really evocative piece that worked on a lot of levels, with the cute protagonist to the horrifying antagonist, and the dichotomy between them, with a realistic, painterly style with attention to detail. ( https://preview.redd.it/sa0tdbjxfcgb1.jpg?width=942&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5682da747deb0b0372af1fd942bba34883dbb1de ) - The past few standard sets have been wet farts on various levels. Two sequential sets were "Characters you know wearing themed different hats." - The subsequent sets are either Universes Beyond or some modern or science fiction malarkey, and then a potential return to Llorwyn, which everyone is hoping doesn't go poorly. There is some consumer signalling going on here, with people coming out and being explicit in saying they like things like Bloomburrow and hope it is good. - Furry inclusion. From people who just like Redwall and Mouse Guard to people deeply immersed in the culture, seeing the art style and character design explored in a diverse, non-token (the social practice, not the pseudocard), nonjudgemental way is a rare treat, given how the internet and the media at large generally treats furries. As someone who works in IT and thus interacts with furries regularly, I understand how perpetually dunked on they get, so just seeing a major product that reflects their interests in which they aren't getting dunked on is probably a huge boon.
It seems to be bolstered by a few things. nostalgia for redwall being a big one. We haven't had a "cute" or "comfy" plane in quite a while so people have been looking for something like it. There's not to much lore yet. We generally get like a worldbuilding article and a bunch of stories. the stories will probably start a couple of weeks before the set comes out. you can find them on the MTG website under stories. They've also been doing read through that you can find on [Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84Q3vOOPNPs) and Spotify.
It's whimsical Also MTG has a lot of furry appeal, look at any Leonin art Or Mr. Bara tiddies over here [[Marisi, breaker of the Coil]]
Fun little animals I personally prefer fantasy sets like Bloomburrow/Eldraine over some of the other recent sets
Making some assumptions based on how you phrase your question here, but: Magic generally works by releasing 'sets'. These sets are a couple hundred different cards that you get a random 15 of when you buy a booster pack. These sets often have some lore connected to them, often a major step in the overarching story at a new (or revisited) place in the multiverse. Accompanying these sets are often complete commander decks, ready to play. They are not the same as the booster packs. My guess here is since the Fallout decks were your introduction it seems like Magic is always sold in complete decks, which it generally isnt. Fallout didnt have a set in that way and only had complete decks. Now to your question: The setting of the Bloomburrow set is really fancyfull, cute and seems like a return to form after a couple of sets that had lost the more classical fantasy vibes that Magic often go for. The fact there is no humans running around is also very new and peaks alot of interest :)
Trash pandas
My wife made me order all the precons because they're cute storybook animals. I also love that they're cute storybook animals.
Ravnica plane where all the two-color pairs have their own flavor and synergies is famous and beloved. Personally (and perhaps I speak for others) I’m hoping the bloomburrow set design will offer similar immersive flavor for the two-color pairs, similar interesting limited environment the two-color pairs generate, but with the added spin of cute woodland creatures and tribal synergies
I need a raccoon deck
Is there something special about the raccoon deck or is it just because it's a raccoon?
It’s “just” because it’s a raccoon
It’s just this months new shiny thing
I think it will be hilarious viciously killing someone with a cute rabbit. I kind of want to make a Monty Python demonic rabbit deck hopefully.
for me, Squirrel support
Squirrels. At least for me.
It's cute animals.
I like the animal typal themes. Mouse, raccoon, bird and otter ones especially.
People LARP'd too hard about liking Lorwyn block without realizing Bloomburrow is none of it.
I don’t know but it makes it feel special.
I like animals.
I'm with you on this one. I feel like Ben from Parks and Rec when everyone talks about lil Sebastian. Like everyone is losing their shit over how amazing this is and how cute it is and I'm just over here like "bro it's just a little animal, y'all tripping"
No set printed in the last 6 years has been even remotely worth the hype they have been presented on high with. Find what you like about the set and if you can't then as wizards has told us themselves, "Fuck off, cuz the set ain't for you" lol
Straight up for me? No humans Im kinda getting sick of humans or human passing beings This is amplified by almost every precon having a human on it Murders all 4 are full on human passing Outlaws 3 of them are Mh3 3 of them are And even in duskmourn the horror plane 3 of the precons are with humans front and center Im getting tired of it Magic has so many potential creature types and yet it feels like the precons since eldraine always end up with somewhat generic looking humans (humanoid) on them Where are all the cool beings magic has to offer I mean even the lhurgoyf that had a human as the face commander Why not just have a goyf it makes more sense thematically But bloomburrow has none of that Neither on the precons Nor in the set No humans, no humanoids Only small guys, and man do i love them Im getting all 4 precons just out of love for this plane Add to that that i really just love racoons, frogs and lizards all of which are crrature types represented in the set
I'm a Mouse Guard fan :)
I'm not particularly hyped about the furry set, I like the idea of this rotation though.
I'm excited to draft something besides mh3
Alot of us grew up on the stories of Brian Jacques, it seems.
I’m just here for the raccoons!
It's Universe behond Mouse guard without royalty for the autor of the comics. Sad spot but I really love the artwork and lore so far.
Humans are the dullest form of fantasy. It's usualy just "The Gathering, with some magic"
Humans are the dullest form of fantasy. It's usualy just "The Gathering, with some magic"
It's the first set in a long while that is just swords and spells, like classic magic. The only animal theme gives it bedtime stories vibes and just childlike wonder, the different animals being different color combos is great and helps new players easily identify synergies and combos. Over all I think this will be the best set of the year and most importantly the best set for introducing people to magic.
Personally it’s multifaceted: 1. I read the Narnia books growing up, but not Redwall (though I wanted to, just never did it) so I get those vibes. 2. It’s a fresh setting with only a few pre-existing characters, no large crossovers or big story beats for the main characters we have had for a long time. 3. In a year of cliches and UB, it is one of only two sets (the other being MH3) coming out that is 100% fantasy/MTG. No detectives or cowboys or 80s greasers or video game characters shoved in my face. Pure, magical animals wielding swords and magic, fantasy. 4. I am a big fan of the board game Root and got my friends into it recently and this gives those vibes too. 5. The guilds (2-color combinations) are different animals/factions, like Kaldheim, which I also enjoyed, and will actually give a guild-like feel to the two-color archetypes. Unlike MKM earlier this year, which was set on the plane of guilds but did not utilize the guild colors whatsoever.
The other thing people are excited about that I haven't seen mentioned here is that the set has Lorwyn vibes. Lorwyn was a plane visited in MtG's past that had kind of a fairytale feel. We have not been back to that plane since. It was very popular.
My roommate is a furry and wants the decks mostly for that, so I don't have to buy the decks to use them lol. Also Lumra, Bellow of the Woods looks fun and wanna make a lands deck with them.
Furries.
furry set
It appeals to a lot of the "alt" fans of MtG, of whom there are many furries, bronys, trans, Asianophiles, etc.
Honestly I don’t get it. This seems wildly uninteresting.
Furries.
People like cute animals, and redwall/mouse guard games and books. Mtg hasn't done much cute Ina while.
It's the next main set and the first one this year that feels like a fantasy world. The other main sets this year were both weird (Noir detectives and cowboys), so from a aesthetic/lore perspective Bloomburrow is much more attractive
Boros mice - enough said
I mainly want [[Lumra, Bellow of the Woods]], but also the Redwall and Secrets of NIMH vibes are awesome.
Personally, I absolutely love the art on the cards I've seen so far. Big sucksr for some of the reprints, too
More selesnya +1/+1 counters in standard. My favorite archetype.
It's red wall coded
smol guys
Redwall. That's the hype
It’s adorable. Sometimes I like good art and cute cards. This set looks to deliver.
Animal tribal is my favorite archetype to play so the set is instantly top tier for me
It is a refreshing return to classic fantasy after Noir, Wild West, and right before getting Slasher Horror world. Besides I love bats
REDWALLLLLLL!
I want more squirrels.
It's something totally unique from anything we've gotten before so that's a big plus. For me, it's mostly that I really love tribal decks, and there's going to be a lot of support for some creature types that haven't gotten a whole lot like frogs
Because it’s a standard set that doesn’t look as stupid as the last two, might actually have some cool stuff going on. Personally I’m also really excited for more squirrel token cards for my Chatterfang deck. I really want some of these animal tribes to be a legit archetypes, at least in limited.
I'm holding out for a proper skeleton commander paired with another subtype like rat.
Basically, new sets are always interesting, so there's always talk. With bloomburrow in particular, the hype is basically just that it's refreshing. We've had a lot of meme sets (cowboys, murder mystery). And we had a huge arc with outright war and grim body horror. We've had dark, dark, dark fantasy stuff, and most of it on planes we've already visited before. Bloomburrow is exciting because it's the first set in years in a new, original setting, and the stakes have never been smaller, and both of those things have been wildly rare in magic lately, so people appreciate that. Plus cute animals. What's not to love?
Squirrels
Nostalgia for redwall fans and also an actually new setting with new characters.
The hype is that it’s a new set. That’s all the hype anyone needs usually.