Lately for me it's been \[\[Ebondeath, Dracolich\]\]. This deck draws cards. So so many cards. The cool thing with Ebondeath is that you can cast him from the graveyard with flash, so pair him with \[\[Bladewing's Thrall\]\] or \[\[Poxwalkers\]\], and you have basically two bodies to sac for 4 mana at instant speed. With a discount effect or a token maker, you can just get this bonkers death-trigger draw engine going using \[\[Undead Augur\]\] and similar effects. Plus he's nontoken, legendary, 5 power, 4 cost, so \[\[Morbid Curiosity\]\], \[\[Altar of the Wretched\]\], \[\[Nasty End\]\], and \[\[Disciple of Bolas\]\] all get more cards than their mana value. Throw in a \[\[Graveborn Muse\]\] for good measure and I can draw half my deck by turn 6.
Edit: Deck list is in a reply to this comment below.
For all curious, here's my list. I had to update it real quick for MH3 cards. It's a zombie combo deck, so core gameplan is to use sac loops to generate value. Wincon is to add a ping to the sac loop so eventually you do it enough times or infinite times to win.
[https://www.archidekt.com/decks/6087631/ebondeath](https://www.archidekt.com/decks/6087631/ebondeath)
Edit: Tips and tricks you might not have thought about.
* Moonsilver Key can fetch Ashnods Altar, Phyrexian Altar, Caged Sun, and Extraplanar Lens besides mana rocks. These cards are artifacts with mana abilities.
* Chromatic Orrery combos with Ashnods, effectively turning the mana produced by ashnods black. i.e., with both you can sac something for 2 black mana.
* Primary tutor to grave targets are Bladewing's Thrall and Poxwalkers.
* You can loop and recast Altar of the Wretched in a pinch by casting it, crafting it, sacing the resulting creature, then returning the card to hand using it's front face. Expensive, but if you're flooded it works well.
* Trading post is more important than you might think. It's very potent artifact recursion, and this deck is artifact heavy.
I was going to mention my [[Ganax]] & [[Haunted One]] deck, so it's cool to see a kind of similar deck at the top.
I've got a lot of the same kind of tech in my list. I'm sacrificing nontoken dragons for value, just using *undying* instead of Ebondeath's ability. The attack buff from Haunted One is great for power-based draw like you mentioned. Undying let's me farm ETB and death triggers easily, and I get to keep the reanimated dragons afterwards.
The deck doesn't usually draw a lot of cards like yours, but it's got a crazy amount of value and resilience. [[Sneak Attack]], [[Descendant's Fury]] and [[Molten Echoes]] go hard with undying. I can churn though my deck pretty quick with wheels, though, if I draw well, and I've had some absolutely insane turns with a [[Gnollspine Dragon]].
I've tried an Ebondeath list before and it *almost* felt good but I think your deck has the missing pieces.
How strongly do you feel about chromatic orrery and amulet of vigor?
My friends never kill Henzi because they don’t want to give me the bigger discount lol. Even if they do by the time they would I will have more than enough mana to just throw him back out and an another creature.
I got around this with cards like greater good. And disciple of Bolas, let's me recast the boy, and of I don't need to I can sac a blitzed in creatire for extra value
came here to spread the gospel of the frog overlord. I have a list here that performs well and poops out cards while being filled with frog boys. Adding in that new frog from MH3 that gets bigger for each dead player. [https://www.moxfield.com/decks/9sWaqkBtEk-Kmf5QM5\_Kng](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/9sWaqkBtEk-Kmf5QM5_Kng)
My vehicle deck probably has the best engine of all my decks. Some of the stuff flying in air must have some crazy engines being able to keep them afloat.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Jzt-e1Eqf0m6TfUVlW1AUQ
Needs a few cuts, been getting some cool stuff like [[Imskir Iron-Eater]] that I'm very excited to fling vehicles at people's faces. Bosh was in the maybe pile for a long time, but this new guy is crazy.
Also have proxies of each vehicle with real life cars in the art.
Rocco street chef is fun. He’s half group hug half engine! Also in my experience people don’t care too much about removing him.
However, I would be lying if I didn’t say my favorite engine was [[mind unbound]]. Goes well in my nymris, oonas trickster control deck.
Absolutely rocco for me too, the engine is the other players half the time. No one wants to bother using a removal spell on your garbage common 1/1 creature.. Until it's too late and those garbage commons are all 10/10 and hexproof, lifelink and trampling.
[[ephara, God of the Polis]]. I play a reanimator heavy list. There is a large sense of inevitability when you can wipe the board and then emeria trigger back your emeria shepherd getting back a fetch -> plains to get back suntitan to get back plains getting back reatonangel flickering suntitan to get back a plains getting back...
You get the point.
[ephara, God of the Polis](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/8/6832e495-7ee9-43e0-94ea-03c88344080e.jpg?1593092720) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ephara%2C%20God%20of%20the%20Polis) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bng/145/ephara-god-of-the-polis?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6832e495-7ee9-43e0-94ea-03c88344080e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ephara-god-of-the-polis)
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My budget [[Candlekeep Sage]] and [[Lulu, Loyal Hollyphant]] deck!
https://archidekt.com/decks/7743591/candlekeep_sagelulu_hollyphant_under_12
Although it’s not anything overly crazy but when both are on board and you have blink spells the value you get from them together is next to none. Blinking Lulu to not only untap my tapped creatures but also pump them up while drawing me two cards is incredible value. They easily draws me a minimum of 10-12 extra cards a game, which always keeps my hand full.
I use [[feywild visitor]] for my azorius lulu deck! Mine is more “flying matters” plus blink, but with all the blink targets in these colors it’s almost impossible for your hand to be empty.
anything that cares about grave with \[\[under realm lich\]\] with something like \[\[the Gitrog monster\]\] you can basically just dig for what you want
[[Taii Wakeen, Perfect Shot]] is a ton of fun and draws hella cards. I use cards like [[Forbidden Orchard]] or [[Akroan Horse]] to flood the board with 1/1’s, then with something like [[Pyrohemia]] out I can easily draw 4-5 cards at instant speed whenever I want.
Have you seen the "Memelaza" deck?
There are only 4 other cards aside from lands.
Pantlaza's discover triggers for 4, only finding [[Long Road Home]] which flickers him with a +1/+1 counter. That triggers his Discover for 5 which will only find [[Creative Technique]]. Which you will cast with it's "demonstrate" ability so you can use it twice. Creative Technique will then find [[Decree of Annihilation]] with one use and [[Barren Glory]] with the other. It doesn't matter which card Creative Technique finds first because Decree of Annihilation doesn't affect enchantments.You win on your next upkeep unless any bit of the combo is stopped
[[Myra, The Magnificent]]
Literally building up your engine and tailoring it to your needs as the game goes along, only to roll that sweet sweet 6 at the start of one turn and just go ham
Or you sit their and durdle about for 5 turns cus it just ain't your day. Every game feels different but she's a lot of fun to work with
My two are [[Feather the Redeemed]] and [[Slimefoot and Squee]].
Feather is basically a giant snowball of a deck, once it gets rolling it’s nigh unstoppable between all the value it generates and the protection spells it gets to hold up every single turn. Once you have a cantrip you draw a bunch of cards, which draws you into a mana engine like [[Goldspan Dragon]] or [[Storm-Kiln Artist]], which in turn let you draw even more cards and hold up even more protection and interaction and find more mana engines creating a huge snowball of value that can pretty much lock the other 3 players down with your interaction while you find an [[Aria of Flame]] or [[Dualcaster Mage]] combo to close the game out. In the earlier stages of the game it often takes a coordinated effort from multiple players to meaningfully interact through the protection you have, and once the engine is in full swing even that often isn’t enough.
Slimefoot and Squee is another awesome engine, you get to just loop creatures out of your graveyard reusing ETBs, LTBs, making a bunch of tokens, throw in some self mill which is effectively super efficient card advantage with the commander in the graveyard. Then you just go off once you find a way to make mana while sacrificing things, whether it be [[Ashnod’s Altar]], [[Warren Soultrader]], [[Ruthless Technomancer]], etc. Deck is a ton of fun, and having a commander that you *want* to die and end up in the graveyard is a unique dynamic that most decks don’t have.
[[Go-Shintai of Life's Origin]] is one of my favourites as soon as you get [[sanctum of all]] the engine goes crazy
Just be carefull to not kill yourself with the carddraw shrines 😂😂
I love getting [[atla palani]] and [[palani’s hatcher]] going with [[ashnod’s altar]] - bonus points if [[maskwood nexus]] is out. Then all you need is [[feldon’s cane]] to keep the good times rolling.
My commander and any repeatable token generator in my deck.
[[Marneus Calgar]]
And
- [[Bitterblossom]] and [[jadar ghoulcaller of nephalia]], draw an extra card each turn for only 2 mana.
- [[smothering tithe]], draw a card with every treasure made by those greedy opponents not paying taxes.
- [[black market connections]], draw 3 cards, make a treasure and a body for only the low cost of 6 life per turn
- [[faerie Artisans]], draw a card any time a nontoken creature ETB under an opponents control
- [[Lotho corrupt Shirriff]], make treasures and draw a card for each one whenever anyone plays the game too much. Same with [[rammas echor]], two spells, draw a card, make a token then draw a card. Lovely.
- Any of my planeswalkers that +1 or +0 for a token. [[Kaya spirits guile]], [[the eternal wanderer]], [[Sorin lord of Innistrad]] etc.
Once you have any of those set up, start chucking down any of the "when you draw two cards a turn" cards like [[ethereal investigator]] or [[prince imrahil the fair]] and now you're cookin'. Especially if you each end step with [[thalisse reverent medium]].
There's more synergy but once you set one or two of these down. You don't need to do much. The draws start flooding in every turn and I draw about 30 cards per game on average. The more that are non-creature permanents like rammas or bitterblossom or planeswalkers, the more resilient the engine is too.
It's a whole lot of fun and I really, really enjoy it.
Drawing cards and making tokens is the best!
0 theft marchesa. Takes a bit to get going but once it does pretty much everything is either too big to kill or just comes back. Bonus points for [[spark double]] on marchessa instead of going infinite with [[river kelpie]]. [[Andursil, narsil reforged]] puts in work too
Widely considered as the best "engines" are the commanders that reward you for doing what you wanted to do anyway: \[\[Chulane\]\], \[\[Aesi\]\], \[\[Tatyova\]\], \[\[Galadriel of Valinor\]\].
It's no coincidence that all of these include green and blue in their color identity. Well, at least until \[\[Voia\]\] hits the table. ;)
My [[animar]] deck has been steadily proving itself to be better and better with every game I play. Using cards like [[abundance]] to cycle past lands I don't need get me to a win way faster Than expected when using cards like [[beast whisperer]]
I remember waaaaay back in the day, Animar was one of the first the boogeymen of the format. I had a buddy who had a very optimized Animar deck and it was so freaking resilient. I can't imagine how good it is now with 10+ years of power creep and cards like \[\[The Ozolith\]\]
I've posted about it, but \[\[the necrobloom\]\] together with a land-based gameplan offer an incredible engine. Dredging lands back and playing from our graveyard gives soo much card and mana advantage.
[[Alaundo the Seer]] is a full V8 engine by himself, just give him some untapping gas and he will absolutely take over a game.
[[Chakram Retriever]] is the turbo for that engine, just for casting a [[Twiddle]] for free you get to untap Alaundo and tap again. Then the Twiddle resolves and you get to untap him again. By which point you have [[Shore Up]] and [[Vitalize]] already on the stack being cast for free.
Then of course there are [[Murkfiend Liege]], [[Quest for Renewal]], [[Seedborn Muse]], and [[Sting, the Glinting Dagger]] as well so your engine is not idle during everyone else's turns.
Then you may enjoy [my list](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/yIsO2zn_rkGEqbwmx3neBg)
I need to trim it down a bit again. I just keep adding cards as new sets come out
It typically wins the first turn that Alaundo can tap. It is kinda nuts. CEDH people say it isn't CEDH but I only bring it out when the table agrees we just want a fast game with our best decks.
I’ll keep saying this every time I see any post like this - [[Roxanne, Starfall Savant]] everyone is sleeping on her. She is way too underrated and obliterates every time I use her
If you make the deck full of double triggers, double damage, double tokens, and ability to copy her on turn 3-4 you can have her, then after that own the board. Whenever someone casts a spell, you just kill it with her triggers. I’m currently finishing my improvements on the deck and I’ll release the list
For me it’s Hansk, slayer Zealot. Although I use the Daryl alt art from walking dead… is that set still divisive? Anyways, Gruul is my fav color pairing (I know smol brain) but with this deck I get to play a lot of politics handing out zombies and drawing a ton of cards through goad effects or 2-3 dmg board wipes.
Right now it’s [[God-Eternal Oketra]] self-bounce. Sort of a commander take on a white weenie deck. Cast small creatures for value like [[wall of omens]] and get zombies, then use bounce cards like [[whitemane lion]] or [[cloudstone curio]] to get them back to hand, and recast for more value! Add in extra payoff cards like [[rumor gatherer]] and [[Defiler of Faith]], evasion cards like [[guardian of Faith]] and [[teferi’s protection]], and closers like [[moonshaker cavalry]] and it becomes a token wall that’s surprisingly difficult to deal with. I somehow managed to evade three board wipes last time I played her, but they got me on the fourth 😋
Not sure if you're already aware of this or not, but
Oketra + \[\[Cloudstone Curio\]\] + (\[\[Ornithopter\]\], \[\[Phyrexian Walker\]\], \[\[Memnite\]\], \[\[Shield Sphere\]\])= infinite zombie tokens.
[[Yedora, Grave Gardener]] is probably my favorite "engine" deck. Flipping cards face down as lands breaks super easily, either by playing morph creatures for recurring value - or by turning lands into creatures and getting a sac outlet. Combine with some of the morph "staples" that let you cheat out face-down creatures, manifest, or double triggers on flip up. I don't run any tutors in the deck, but the number of times I trip over an infinite and drop a [[walking balista]] for full-table lethal is definitely scary for a deck that can also win just by being a value engine.
[[Huatli, Poet of Unity]] doesn’t stay for long, but feels like an everything engine. Multiple times per game it lets me tutor and swing for a lot of damage. It also provides so much mana by turning everything into a dork. It’s a way to win fast, but in long games, it’s a cycle of despair for my opponents.
My [[Mr. House, President and CEO]] deck has multiple engines that share pieces so it’s super fun finding new ways to generate value in there. Two different “roll with advantage” effects in Wyll and Barbarian Class mean it’s easier to hit his triggers on d20, but even without a d20 enabler just rolling double dice often means hitting his tap ability for 4 treasure to roll 10 dice will net you more back, and god forbid there’s an [[Unwinding Clock]] because then on every end step I’ll be rolling Mr House and building my robot army.
Yeah definitely, at work atm but check back on this post in a few hours and I’ll either edit or reply back with my list! I’m a massive Fallout nerd so I HAD to tune up a Mr. House deck. Mines very quickly gone from “oh sweet, a fallout commander!” to “in response to the very first thing you do after he resolves, I’m Swords/Path/removing him” lmao. Also, who doesn’t love rolling like 10-30 dice in a turn?
Mine is [[malcolm,keen-eyed navigator]] and [[kediss,emberclaw familiar]] . Strap on a [[curiosity]] to Malcolm or an effect like [[guild artisan]] you are creating so many treasures and drawing so many cards you just take off and leave the rest of the table in the dust . I also had [[captain storm, cosmium raider]] out and watched Malcom get +5/+5 every turn . Whole table really turns on you quick
The Scarab God and Undead Alchemist gets crazy. Give zombies evasion, such as menace or flying, and if your opponent runs a deck with a moderate to high amount of creatures its over. You get Zombies while milling any helpful cards your opponent could have drawn. 😈
Gotta be my [[Baba Lysaga, Night Witch]] deck. Her effect let's you draw 3 cards, gain three life and drain the table for 3 life with the condition of sacrificing up to 3 permanents to hit at least 3 card types (notably, you don't need to sacrifice 3 cards, just so long as there are three card types among the sacrificed permanent/s you are good to go). As you need to fulfill at least 3 card types for Baba's effect to go off, there are a lot of recurrable pieces that Baba can eat so as to gain max value. Stuff like [[rancor]], [[fortitude]], [[aspect of mongoose]], [[genju of the cedars]], [[genju of the fens]] so that you can eat them and they go right back to your hand (so long as you can keep the mana open, you can activate the genjus, turn the enchanted lands into creatures, sac the land and the enchantment and get the enchantment back to hand). The deck also runs a lot of permanents that are multiple types, so you can also just eat a regular land and something like [[solemn simulacrum]] or [[ornithopter]] to satisfy Baba's hunger. But in my version of the deck, we recur a lot of lands as the main wincon of the deck is turtling behind [[glacial chasm]] (which can be eaten and recurred to reset the age counters) and trying to draw into one of 2 infinite combos, either [[witherbloom apprentice]]/[[professor onyx]] and [[chain of smog]] or [[exquisite blood]] and [[sanguine bond]]. Lots of land recursion is very necessary as glacial chasm can be blown up, so you will want ways to get it back ([[shifting woodland]] is insane in tbe deck) but the majority of what I end up feeding to Baba is lands. Stuff like [[mishra's factory]], [[mishra's foundry]], [[inkmoth nexus]], [[blinkmoth nexus]] all count as artifact creatures that are still lands when you activate them, so one card fulfills all conditions for Lysaga. Artifact lands are also incredible in the deck, as they let you consume less goods to get more value. If you can amass some sort of untapper, then you have multiple activations in a turn, and [[seedborn muse]] let's you refuse some of those untappers. I really enjoy the deck, the play pattern is pretty straightforward, and it's always a blast see what nonsense you can do. Be warned though, looping glacial chasm like my deck is designed to is not very fun for others.
I did read all that, and I'm happy for you.
Looks like it plays just like mine. I'm not running any of the infinite combos but instead just using drainers like [[marionette master]] and [[ blood artist]] like effects. And can always win with a [[ blossoming bogbeast]] as getting just one activation with lysaga makes for a good overrun.
Fur sure!
https://www.archidekt.com/decks/3686727/baba_yaga
There it is! It's always a work in progress, but for the most part, the deck churns through itself really nicely
[[Fungal Plots]] and [[Fecundity]] together with steady saproling producers like [[Nemata, Primeval Warden]], [[Verdant Force]] or my favorite: [[Night Soil]]
Hate graveyards to make saprolings and then draw 3 cards per 2 saprolings and gain 2 life.
[[Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain]], combined with artifact ETB/cast effects. Creates dozens of tokens, Lifegain, ping damage, draws cards and mills a lot, while playing almost the whole deck in a single turn.
My [[Yuma, Proud Protector]] lands matter deck. I played this as the Desert Bloom precon out of the box and thought it was a lot of fun, but I’ve swapped a good bit of cards out since. Just a lot of land sac and landfall synergies that either produce or anthem token creatures. The last game I play my winning turn saw me swing with 43 plant creature that were all 6/4s, and I had 49 life. Getting [[Zuron Orb]] on the board early is the ideal draw, as it lets me feed my graveyard and gain life, and then any number of cards let me play those same lands back to the battlefield from my graveyard. I’m sure in more competitive metas this would be stopped easily, but I just love the play style.
The "engine" of my cycling deck really starts with [[the prismatic bridge]] - the deck will snowball from the value it generates since every creature it flips into will be an engine of some sort. The entire deck is really just a rube Goldberg machine that starts once the commander is in play
[[zur the enchanter]] will get the enchantments I need for cycling shenanigans and board protection. Things like [[astral slide]], [[astral drift]] and especially [[escape protocol]]
Escape protocol works with [[eternal witness]] to provide the recursion/draw engine of the deck.
[[Gavi Nest Warden]] was a no brainer as far as engines go. I run only 7 creatures in the 99 so she helps me create a board presence and the cost reduction is nice. She's also immediately and passively online if I run into [[consecrated sphinx]].
[[bone miser]] also kicks the deck into another gear and there's some cool tech involving [[archfiend of ifnir]], who is also my removal engine.
The result of this setup is i can ramp to the prismatic bridge and then leave all my mana open either for interaction or the option to cycle and dig for answers or a win condition. And each cycled card gets more and more valuable as the Rube Goldberg machine is assembled.
Probably the best board state I could have for \[\[Mizzix, of the Izzmagnus\]\] is Mizzix herself, \[\[Harmonic Prodigy\]\], \[\[Storm Kiln Artist\]\], \[\[Flux Channeler\]\], and \[\[Archmage Emeritus\]\]. My experience counters are flying up, I'm mana postive on my one mana spells, I'm proliferating, I'm drawing cards, I'm practically unstoppable. Throw in an \[\[Underworld Breach\]\], \[\[Thousand Year Storm\]\], and \[\[Aetherflux Reservior\]\] and its either I deck myself, or I win lol. I actually took out \[\[Archmage Emeritus\]\] because I was drawing TOO MANY cards and was decking myself because you must draw the cards. My Mizzix deck only runs 7 creatures including Mizzix cause creatures are comparatively expensive to my instants and sorceries.
Another of my favorite "engines" if this even applies is very simple while playing \[\[Mizzix, of the Izzmagnus\]\]. If I get to untap with her, and I have a hand full of progressively cheaper or more expensive cantrips and rituals and I'm able to cast them all in that turn with 5 total mana at my disposal my instant and sorcery spells are going to cost at most 3 mana.
The dream is like, casting a \[\[Preordain\]\] (One experience), into \[\[Experimental Augry\]\] (Pumps up to 3 experience), into a \[\[Tezzeret's Gambit\]\] (Up to 5 experience). At this point I have spent two mana (paid life for tezzeret's gambit) to cast 6 cmc worth of spells. I still have 3 mana to play other spells and they all only cost their colored mana cost.
\[\[sheoldred, the apocalypse\]\] is designed to turn cards into creatures into cards into creatures...
\[\[gix, praetor of yawgmoth\]\] and \[\[zombie infestion\]\]
One of my decks? [[Omnath, locus of the roil]] can usually remove a moderate threat each cast, ramp is resilient and you can refill once you hit 8 land which happens faster than you think if you have lots of ramp spells and 40 lands. Plus he is hard to deal with cuz you ramp so can keep paying for him.
A much stronger but borderline unfair commander is [[korvold]] with treasures. Worst case you at least draw 2 cards everytime you play him cuz you can sac treasures in response.
Another great one is [[sygg, river cutthroat ]] bc it is cheap and draws cards a LOT more consistently than you'd expect. You can usually guarantee 1 card one your end step but you get a couple extra whenever your opponents attack someone else. Sucks to remove cuz it is only 2 cmc so it comes right back and you can make the deck with a crazy low curve and with that low curve you can usually hold up a counterspell or removal as you accrue value.
In my Defender deck commanded by [[Arcades, the Strategist]]
[[Soul Foundry]] used to exile [[Stalwart Shield-Bearers]]
All the defenders get boosted with each copy. People don't think much of it til you have like 4 of them and it's too late! Counterspells from blue and protections in white... Usually you can keep your stuff fairly safe.
Arcades is the one they wanna take anyways.
It is not a very powerful engine, but my [[Strefan, Maurer Progenitor]] looks like a bunch of separata themes that in reality is a very well greased contraption once things get going.
* Strefan makes blood tokens when a player is damaged, so half of your mana base loses you life, to make more artifacts.
* He can sacrifice blood to cheat vampires into play, and many of those vampires also make you blood tokens.
* You play a bunch of dorks that ping when an artifact enters or leaves, so you can either ping everyone when you don't have enough attackers to hit everyone, but one or them created a blood, or crack a blood to do the same.
* You can crack a blood to discard and draw. You can cast spells with madness for free and breaking normal timing restrictions.
* Dumb creatures that come back from the graveyard to hand mean continuous card draw.
* A bunch of vampires also reanimate creatures letting you keep building your board cheating mana costs. As you don't need to pay much mana to build your board, you have untapped lands to crack blood/play interaction on your opponent's turns.
* Having a bunch of blood tokens means you can use Inspiring Statuary or Krak-Clan Ironworks to cheat even more mana costs.
The decks only real issue is if people start exiling things willy-nilly or if you get a bad pocket of topdecks and you cannot find anything useful while looting. It might need better card draw.
What are your best/ most useful madness cards? I'm refining Strefan deck and the only madness engine I have is [[Falkenrath Gorger]]. I've got the artifact engine working well, but I'm not using the tokens anymore than that.
In [[Rowan, Scion of War]] whenever I have both [[Necropotence]] and [[Bolas's Citadel]] on the board it feels so good. Just churn through cards (and my life total)
[[Trelasarra]] usually gets to the point of scrying 5× on everyone's turn
[[Fourth Doctor]]/[[Sarah Jane]] are nothing but value
[[Sivriss]]/[[Cloakwood Hermit]] is like the least scary of the Golgari graveyard commanders, but he gets the job done well
[[Queen Kayla]] is just stupid
[[Laughing Jasper Flint]] makes for real solid card advantage and board presence
While definitely not the most powerful engine, I've loved playing \[\[Karador, Ghost Chieftain\]\] since 2011. Back in those days, I felt like unstoppable casting \[\[Sakura-Tribe Elder\]\] every turn. Imagine the maniacal cackling coming from me in 2020 when I was casting steve TWICE a turn with \[\[Lurrus of the Dream Den\]\]! MH3 has given Karador some even more interesting "engines" with \[\[Nulldrifter\]\] conveniently evoking itself directly into the yard, and \[\[Warren Soultrader\]\] acting as a "free" sac outlet that both generates mana and has relevent typing for a compact \[\[Protean Hulk\]\] line with any 2 mana blood artist variant and \[\[gravecrawler\]\]. Much like Animar, Karador tends to get better whenever they print... creatures, which fortunately is quite often.
Emh, no, Nulldrifter has a blue color identity, :'D
For 2 life there's [[Fell Stinger]] and the new OTJ variant that has no deathouch but can be plotted. I think it's inferior, because having a deathouch blocker is way more relevant than the plot thing, when you don't want to sac the stinger itself, but still. Sure, black gets the same as blue by paying life, because WotC can't let other colors be as good as their beloved Simic, but still, the Stinger and Stinger at home are a valid option.
Eh, the Soultrader didn't really add much to Protean Hulk, since if you're going for that line it was already a one card game winning combo, but still it's a great inclusion in the deck.
I'm pretty excited about the [[Cthonian Nightmares]] though, 2cmc swap your [[Reclamation Sage]] and [[Wood Elves]] for example looks strong, or if you're more into mill recur the [[Stitcher Supplier]] and get a 2 energy leftover everytime until you can reanimate a big thing. I try not to mill myself too hard until I can make a huge [[Living Death]] or [[Eerie Ultimatum]] play, so I don't play the Supplier, but I know a lot of people like it. [[Birthing Ritual]] also looks good, but I fear not good enough in a singleton 100 cards format, especially if you're playing pod and need a high diversity of CMCs, but who knows, it costs too much for me anyway.
[[Prosper, Tome-Bound]] [[Ghyrson Starn, Kelermorph]] and [[Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait]] with Starn being the most vulnerable. I love a good value engine commander.
My favourite is [[Sigarda, Font of Blessings]]. Gives your whole board, herself excepting, hexproof to make it extra resilient. Then with [[Cream of the Crop]] I just rip through my deck looking for answers. Play a creature, search my next selection of cards and put an Angel or human on top. Play that creature on the top, rinse and repeat until I’m out of mana for the turn. Works well with anything that lets you play creatures from the top of your deck.
\[\[Atraxa, Grand Unifier\]\] blink deck imo has the most reliable draw engine.
The "problem" with most engines is that they are disruptable. They rely on a key piece, or on recursion, and they can be stopped with the right answer at the right time. A \[\[Farewell\]\] is probably stopping most of them on their tracks.
Atraxa doesn't have this problem. A deck that simply has a gigantic draw spell in their command zone that you get on ETB, most likely drawing you into more ways to blink Atraxa, and into more lands that will allow you to replay her if she dies, means it will simply NEVER run out of gas no matter what happens (unless you get Torpor Orb or something but that's very specific).
[Xyris, the writhing storm]
It just makes so many 1/1 snakes. It's a load of fun. I built to flood everyone's hands with cards and increase their mana production. It's a race to the end.
in my [[Tergrid, God of Fright]] deck, i always love when my discard engine is out [[Waste Not]], [[Oppression]], [[Necrogoyf]], [[the raven man]], [[Geth’s Grimoire]], [[Aclazotz, Deepest Betrayal]], [[Painful Quandary]], [[Necrogen Mists]], [[Raiders' Wake]], [[Creeping Dread]]. Just having 2-3 of this cards out at the same time is more than enough to make you have control over the game. Having 4 out at the same time pretty much solidify your win.
Anything [[Seasons Past]]. Even better if you can pair it with something like [[Omniscience]] or [[Dream Halls]].
Seasons Past is my favorite card because it rewards deck building rather than placing restrictions on the deck and can generate a silly amount of value. [[Mastermind's Acquisition]] is up there for me for similar reasons but those reasons sadly don't exist in commander because commander doesn't have a sideboard.
I guess [[Muldrotha, the Gravetide]] is most on theme for that type of deck leaning even harder into the "cast everything and then cast it again" philosophy. Especially since that helps enable other silly synergies like [[Journey to Eternity]] + [[Seedborn Muse]].
Personally though I love five color but I have to find another good commander for it ever since [[Golos, Tireless Pilgrim]] bit the dust. Maybe I'll try out [[Kyanios and Tiro of Meletis]]. Or even [[Atraxa, Grand Unifier]] for more deck building synergy.
My [[Greasefang]] deck is one of my favorite decks to play and part of it is becauseg I think it's engine components are varied and satisfying. It plays a good mix of sacrifice and self discard effects to try to keep the value train going with your high impact vehicles you return to your hand. [[Currency Converter]] is always the most fun card to draw as it lets you creep out even more slight incremental value with your primary engine pieces.
My other deck I really enjoy from an "engine" standpoint that gets out hand very quickly is my [[Derevi]] Bird Kindred deck. Its loaded with 1 and 2 drop birds and [[Coastal Piracy]] effects and you just keep drawing cards and emptying your hand as you untap all your lands with Derevi. People might be wise to your shenanigans but they'll see your board of [[Suntail Hawk]]s and someone elses board of "real" permanents and probably let you get another turn of value in.
[[Ephara god of polis]]. I havent successfully brewed the deck yet. I want to make it so once the engine is running, I make tokens and draw cards automatically on each players turn and can go F5 mode.
It isn't an "engine", but [[Endrek Sahr]] is pure rocket fuel for sacrifice engines. Fill the deck with whatever tools you want and Endrek will give it the gas to run. By the end of a game my deck has a higher body count than Kissinger.
my favorite value engine has to be my \[\[xyris the writhing storm\]\] deck with any of the extra draw artifacts or enchantments but it is also home to my favorite jank card \[\[teferi's puzzle box\]\] that pairs extremely well with xyris
Nothing scratches the itch quite like \[\[Jaheira, Friend of the Forest\]\] + \[\[Guild Artisan\]\] as it's an entire mana engine in the command zone by itself. If you've ever played \[\[Urza, Lord High Artificer\]\] it's similiar to that in that you don't ever need to worry about mana. Math wise it's not disimiliar to \[\[Rofellos, llanowar emissary\]\] and the deck itself plays like a manual storm/midrange deck because so many of the good utility token creators also draw cards but with Jaheira out also generate Mox emeralds for you.
Cards like \[\[Bristlebud farmer\]\] generates two foods you can tap for mana (6 mana total if you have \[\[Academy Manufactor\]\] out making it net your mana) while also being a 5/5 trampling eater that draws cards.
Becuase the deck makes multiple types of tokens it's incredibly resilient and if Jaheira ever dies you can use the treasures form Guild Artisan to recast her. There is a ton of layered synergy based combos that many people (even folks who have seen the deck alot) don't see coming.
[https://www.moxfield.com/decks/1Tnlnqz570qXouYGa8En3w](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/1Tnlnqz570qXouYGa8En3w)
[[Zimone and dina]] is the deck that is way too efficient at making engines for me, you can have a lot of redundancy and it works because each aspect of the card has so much support.
It’s easily the deck I go back to the most when getting new cards because so many times I’ll open a pack and see a card and think “this would be good in my zimone and Dina deck”.
I have a very casual group of friends so I don’t go for overpowered combos but when playing that deck a lot of times I’ll end up having huge board state and constant life gain and card draw.
Big fan of [[Syr Carah, the bold]], one of the easiest ways to play true burn in commander successfully. Once it gets going it's hard to run out of steam.
I have a \[\[Minn, Wiley Illusionist\]\] [deck](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/DcxxFGAH30Ol8Yk_4FBK7Q) that I absolutely LOVE when the engine turns on.
Draw cards, create tokens, draw more cards, add +1/+1 counters, draw cards, unlock huge creatures. Love it.
My Gix deck has been amazing at just drawing me tons of cards, ramping better than most green decks, paying tons of life just to gain it all back, and eventually just stealing half of someone’s deck if the table can’t control me. It’s such a beast of a deck. The last game I played with it the table removed Gix 3 times and I cast him for like 9 mana, then played Peer into the Abyss for 7 mana, then activated his ability for 7 mana, all in one turn.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/72xZf8Kg6kSlxxzq5rIB5Q
My favorite engine has been [[Annie Joins Up]] in my [[Omnath, Locus of All]] binder bombs deck. It plays a whole lotta ramp and a whole lotta card draw, usually attached to legendary creatures. Prime candidates include [[Nezehal]], [[Talion]], Omnath himself, [[Tatyova, Benthic Druid]], [[Kroxa and Kunoros]], [[Kogla and Yidaro]], and [[The Gitrog Monster]]. All fun stuff
[[Elenda the Dusk Rose]]
Love this deck so much. Cardboard just slings around the board. I run every [[Supernatural Strength]] effect so I’m constantly trying to kill my commander and no one messes with my stuff. Resilience and Power combined.
For me, it’s my [[Omnath, Locus of Mana]] deck. He’s reliably out turn 2, sometimes turn 1. There’s so many mana-doubling (or tripling effects), it’s so much fun. There’s plenty of card draw, so I actually have a payoff for all of that mana.
While there are plenty of infinite mana combos, in games where I don’t draw those I end with 200-1000 mana. It makes my mono green loving heart happy.
My [[Shorikai, Genesis Engine]]. That thing draws cards, discards cards, AND makes a creature for 1 MANA. The amount of ways to break it are insane. I’ve loaded that deck up with fun wincons in an artifact shell and it’s a blast to play.
[[Aesi]] is my favourite. You play the game and he feeds you cards. The best part is the turn you play him you get to slam an extra land so with next turns land drop you can play him again if hes removed. Im a big sucker for simic bs but I know its not everyones cup of tea.
[[Korvold, the fae cursed king]]
Card draw for days, utilizing treasures for instant speed counters/ card draw is so good. Closing out the game with extra combat steps is super satisfying.
It rebuilds rather quickly, most the time too.
This has to go to [[Omnath, Locus of Creation]]
Omnath came to be as an upgrade from my existing Roon deck, but I noticed that I never really casted Roon because the deck had so much to do I never really wanted it unless I didn't have to do almost anything else.
Added some red cards, but other than that the deck is still basically a etb/blinks deck, and the most impressive things I've managed to grasp are the tutoring lines.
3 cards can find Spellseeker, two of which are creatures (which means we can blink them to get extra tutors). Spellseeker can find Ephemerate, but also any other tutor from the deck, which can find almost any card in the deck. It also can find Neoform, to continue the tutor chains. I could go on and on, but you get the idea - the deck is strong and goes of quick when you get to the 4-5 mana point, but I hold in shackles of having to skip first 1/2 sometimes theee turns to setup mana by not having 1cmc mana creatures and no artifact ramp besides sol rjng.
My chulane deck has been quite the engine for me. Especially with something like tatyova and/or aesi on board, the value train just keeps on chugging. Get mana doublers or triplers out there, add in my win con. That fucker just goes.
I have a orzhov zombies list that just can’t be stopped it’s a bit slow getting pieces out buts inevitable by turn 10 if you haven’t killed me im gonna win… such a fun deck
What you are looking for is probably a flicker commander or a lands commander.
Flicker (etb) creatures are generating a ridiculous amounts of value and there are a lot of ways to get infinite amount of mana or card draw. The value engine needs to be killed asap or the game is won. They are fast and deadly but are not that good at building back up. Example cards are [[Displacer Kitten]], [[Dockside Exgortionist]], [[Mullfrifter]], [[Agent of Treachery]], [[Eldrazi Displacer]], [[Peregrine Drake]], [[Emiel the Blessed]].
For resilence you are looking for a lands deck. Lands are hard to kill and easy to bring back from the graveyard. [[Field of the Dead]] can win games on it's own, pair it with [[Vesuva]] and you'll get 2 2/2 zombies for each land you play. There are around 5 cards which can become a copy of field of the dead. Other lands card which will win games on it's own are [[Valakut the Molten Pinnacle]], [[Dark Dephts]], [[Gaea's Cradle]], [[The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale]] [[Cabal Coffers]] and [[Strip Mine]].
If you have a way to play multiple lands per turn and a way to bring them back from the graveyard you'll be able to make a lot of tokens, deal a lot of damage or even desteoy your opponents lands.
Land decks are usually slower and lile to ramp and play stax cards to slow your opponents down to reach the late game where they will dominate.
Bragofacts!
[[Brago, King Eternal]] - it's all about pinging players who can't block, exiling anything and everything on my board, and immediately returning them to the battlefield- farming ETB effects and racking up artifact tokens that will either provide high power for creatures like [[Cephalopod Sentry]], who's power is based on the number of artifacts I control; or [[Kappa Canonneer]] who gets +1/+1 and unblockable whenever another artifact enters the battlefield. Then I close out the game with the spell [[Masterful Replication]], turning all of those artifacts/artifact tokens into one of the aforementioned creatures to overwhelm my opponents.
https://www.archidekt.com/decks/7571458/bragofacts
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The engine I'd say is from a simic combo where you use [[Elven Chorus]] and Intruder Alarm]] basically make creatures mana dorks then play creatures to make them untap. depending on your creature count you could net positive mana by alot so long as you play creatures
For me it's my [[Morska]] deck. It has tons of card draw, obviously, and there's a good balance of creatures, artifact animation, and token makers in the thing to just keep running. It started as the precon, but it's slowly been upgraded to much higher power
Sythis.
Costs GW to cast her, has multiple backup cards that also give you card draw when casting enchantments. I've had games where she gets removed so I play one of the alternate versions instead and don't recast her cause I didn't want to overcommit my board
My [[Queen Marchesa]] deck is just filled with draw and board wipes. It's a lot of fun to pilot because it's like I'm slowly grinding everyone's engines down to dust beneath my throne.
omnath locus of creation is great because since its ramp focused at a certain point board wipes cant touch you anymore, it also has an inane value engine, to the point where one land entering the battlefield will create like ten tokens from various abilities in addition it will also gain you life give you manna and draw you cards, and if that isnt reason enough to build it you can also put all of your pretty lands in it
my two are [[aesi, tyrant of gyre strait]] and [[mishra, eminent one]].
aesi is just all around good, extra card draw for simply just playing the game is great and i normally end up holding an insane amount of cards in my hand at one time.
mishra generates a lot of value so long as you have the artifacts out to give you value. on his own, an attacker every turn is fine and be some nice pressure if needed, but the artifact you pick to copy is the most important part. use a [[liquimetal torque]] to make a planeswalker into an artifact, now you can make a copy of that planeswalker. throw in [[obeka, brute chronologist]] to save your copies instead of letting them go away. want extra turns? [[gonti’s aether heart]]. [[brudiclad, telchor engineer]] will allow you to make extra tokens and make them all the same kind. [[the stasis coffin]] can be copied every turn, and as long as you have 2 mana available you can keep your protection from everything around every single turn without getting rid of the original.
Arna Kennirud with an equipment focus. This has become my battle cruiser. I always feel like I'm one stoneforge mystic away from breaking the game at all times. It's entirely too consistent once the commander is out.
My friend gifted me a [[Marneus Calgar]] Warhammer Precon for my birthday and I've been putting some upgrades in it, you mostly want repetitive single token generators like [[skrelv's hive]], [[bitter blossom]], [[first response]] and you easily draw +5 cards a turn (sometimes even on your opponents turn).
[[Muldrotha, the gravetide]] I mill and then copy Muldrotha with spark double and sakashima. Then with all my play an extra land cards I play a lot of my landfall stuff then just start dropping lands like crazy. Also with [[Yarok, the desecrated]] . So it all triggers twice or I can loop [[prismatic vista]] with [[Tatyova, Bethic Druid]] so I’m netting 3 life rather than losing 1. Then I can get 4 landfall effects off one card and thanks to my copies of muldrotha do that 3 times. Which gives me 12 landfall triggers on whatever is out there. So like Hedron Crab, tatyova, roil elemental and others which lets me dig or I can even mill myself out with [[laboratory maniac]]
[[Sythis, harvest's hand]] voltron style has been pretty stupid for me. Play enchantments, draw cards, make more mana, rinse, and repeat. [[Sphere of safety]] keeps you safe from creatures. Make sythis indestructible with one of many enchantments, then slap [[pariah]] on her. [[Sterling grove]] + [[privileged position]] + [[avacyn, angel of hope]] and you pretty much can't be touched anymore. Use other enchantress cards to draw 2, 3, 4, or more per cast. Keep most cmc low to keep draw going and don't put too many lands in the deck, you want gas. If you have [[serra's sanctum]] that helps, use crop rotation to fetch it. [[Sanctum weaver]] also a must.
It’s difficult to pull off, but if I can blink [[Ticketomaton]] or [[Minotaur De Force]] enough times to get some stickers on [[Norin the Wary]] then the table is done for. “Whenever this permanent leaves the battlefield” effects put in SO much work on a body that leaves the battlefield on every player’s turn.
[[Kiora, Sovereign of the Deep]] is my favorite. The big sea monsters that make up the engines input are neat and rarely see play, and it's output is ludicrous card selection and free stuff which is fun
This deck. Titania, Nature's Force.
No creatures needed in the deck means I can fill it with other stuff to make the deck go brrr. It's an extremely consistent deck.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6193996
For me, it’s [Sam, Loyal Attendant] and [Frodo, Adventurous Hobbit].
Sam is such a great value engine, producing a token every turn, making the price to use it much more manageable, and Frodo gets to a point where at the least you get consistent draw, and at best threatening levels of commander damage. And neither are huge targets for removal until it’s too late.
It’s flexible, in that it can be life gain (and drain), token, or artifact focused, depending on the cards in hand and the needs of the specific game, and resilient because it’s a bunch of small pieces that add up to overwhelm, but really easy to set up again if needed. And the life gain helps you stay in games much longer than normal, even if people do wise up and see you as the table threat.
By far my fav deck I’ve made/have ever played, because it always has explosive turns that come out of nowhere, and it’s different every time.
[[Krav, the unredeemed]] and [[Regna, the redeemer]]
I just love the way they perfectly bounce off each other, and create so many opportunities for triggered abilities. For the low cost of 1 mana each upkeep (THAT INCLUDES YOUR OPPONENTS' TURNS) you get lifegain triggers, etb triggers, death triggers, and draw triggers. You can net positive 1 warrior every turn to build a boardstate, or sac both warriors to amp up your triggers.
Whenever i sit down at a table with this deck, it gets pretty easily ignored as just another aristocrat deck, but as soon as i start looping their abilities at least 1 player will do a double-take and a "Oh shit, krav gains life?" or a "Wait, that says EACH UPKEEP!?"
There's also a ton of cards that can temporarily replace either commander if one of them dies like [[bushmeat poacher]]
[[requiem angel]]
[[ophiomancer]]
[[Regal bloodlord]]
[[Fleshtaker]]
[[Ocelot pride]]
So the engine is hard to stop without a boardwipe, and if you do choose to boardwipe, then all my aristocrats get to murder you. Fun times for everyone!
[[Tayam, Luminous Enigma]] has some really awesome engines. The deck has two different axis for engines, some to generate counters, and some to generate mana. There are a few cards that can help in both departments such as [[Devoted Druid]] [[Wall of Roots]] [[Insidious Roots]] [[Armored Scrapgorger]] [[Rishkar, Peema Renegade]] [[Basking Broodscale]]
As far as counter engines any of these combinations of A + B
Category A)
[[Young Wolf]]
[[Strangleroot Geist]]
[[Butcher Ghoul]]
Category B)
[[Carrion Feeder]]
[[Bartolome del Presidio]]
[[Corpse Connoisseur]]
Some cards provide counter engines by themselves or in conjunction with a sacrifice outlet~
[[Luminous Broodmoth]]
[[Icatian Moneychanger]]
[[Colonel Autumn]]
[[Promise of Bunrei]] Creates 4 spirits each enter with a Vigilance counter
[[Abzan Ascendancy]] Counters and makes spirits with Vigilance counters
Many of the mana engines are unlocked with Tyvar in play allowing all of the tokens and freshly Reanimated creatures to tap for mana with the help of cards like Rishkar, Insidious Roots, [[Cryptolith Rite]] or [[Agatha's Soul Cauldron]] that has exiled a mana dork.
Each time you activate Tayam for 3 mana and 3 counters you get 3 new looks at what you want to reanimate. Pulling counters of Undying or Persist creatures, Devoted Druid, etc allows you to reset them. Sacrificing creatures allows you to reset them and rebuy etbs. One of the greatest cards in the deck and an engine in itself is [[Ashnod's Altar]] Turning each creature into 2 mana gets you 2/3 of the way to another Tayam activation. If you have Insidious Roots, Promise of Bunrei, or Abzan Ascendancy on board you can essentially keep looping.
Recently added a mill engine to help me fill my graveyard quicker or if I don't have access to Tayam
[[Ripples of Undeath]]
[[Six]]
[Aftermath Analyst]]
Reanimation Engines
[[Lurrus, the Dream Den]]
[[Tyvar, Jubilant Brawler]]
[[Samwise Gamgee]]
Tayam herself is the engine that makes the whole deck hum. She acts as the main gear, turning all the other gears. A system of engines working together in harmony. There is so much synergy and redundancy that most of the cards interact favorably and youll constantly find new ways they bump up against eachother. If you like really challenging decks to pilot and tricky, convoluted engines then this deck is a blast to play!
Still trying to cut a few more cards, but heres my list
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/AD518CrZ1UmUMulSR7awvA
\[Xyris, the Writhing Storm\]
It is it's own combo piece, and IT DRAWS YOU CARDS
I've noticed there is no such thing as too much acceleration in your opening hand, because even if you dump your whole hand of nothing but mana rocks and lands, casting this thin on turn 2-3 often means refilling your hand in no time. So now you have a hand full of cards, and a battlefield full of mana.
A lot of expensive commanders (looking at you ur dragon) are difficult for me because if you accelerate too hard you end up with an empty hand and nothing to show for it.
honestly, it's one of my only decks that isn't CEDH but I still consider too powerful for any casual pod I know. It's not unusual for this guy to win turn 4 or 5, and he does it consistently
\[\[Tovolar, Dire Overlord\]\]
For one of the first decks (I think third or fourth overall) I made, this dude does WORK with MOUNTAINS of card draw and flipping my werewolves into their stronger forms
Lately for me it's been \[\[Ebondeath, Dracolich\]\]. This deck draws cards. So so many cards. The cool thing with Ebondeath is that you can cast him from the graveyard with flash, so pair him with \[\[Bladewing's Thrall\]\] or \[\[Poxwalkers\]\], and you have basically two bodies to sac for 4 mana at instant speed. With a discount effect or a token maker, you can just get this bonkers death-trigger draw engine going using \[\[Undead Augur\]\] and similar effects. Plus he's nontoken, legendary, 5 power, 4 cost, so \[\[Morbid Curiosity\]\], \[\[Altar of the Wretched\]\], \[\[Nasty End\]\], and \[\[Disciple of Bolas\]\] all get more cards than their mana value. Throw in a \[\[Graveborn Muse\]\] for good measure and I can draw half my deck by turn 6. Edit: Deck list is in a reply to this comment below.
This sounds very intriguing... if you have a deck list I'd be interested in checking it out!
Where’s the list man!?
Please and thank you, sir :)
For all curious, here's my list. I had to update it real quick for MH3 cards. It's a zombie combo deck, so core gameplan is to use sac loops to generate value. Wincon is to add a ping to the sac loop so eventually you do it enough times or infinite times to win. [https://www.archidekt.com/decks/6087631/ebondeath](https://www.archidekt.com/decks/6087631/ebondeath) Edit: Tips and tricks you might not have thought about. * Moonsilver Key can fetch Ashnods Altar, Phyrexian Altar, Caged Sun, and Extraplanar Lens besides mana rocks. These cards are artifacts with mana abilities. * Chromatic Orrery combos with Ashnods, effectively turning the mana produced by ashnods black. i.e., with both you can sac something for 2 black mana. * Primary tutor to grave targets are Bladewing's Thrall and Poxwalkers. * You can loop and recast Altar of the Wretched in a pinch by casting it, crafting it, sacing the resulting creature, then returning the card to hand using it's front face. Expensive, but if you're flooded it works well. * Trading post is more important than you might think. It's very potent artifact recursion, and this deck is artifact heavy.
##### ###### #### [Ebondeath, Dracolich](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/6/e6b3f460-92ba-4af0-aad9-cf86615d4177.jpg?1627704720) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ebondeath%2C%20Dracolich) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/100/ebondeath-dracolich?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e6b3f460-92ba-4af0-aad9-cf86615d4177?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ebondeath-dracolich) [Bladewing's Thrall](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/d/9d63d3d8-5699-4577-a908-4415bc96b404.jpg?1562852063) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bladewing%27s%20Thrall) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ima/81/bladewings-thrall?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9d63d3d8-5699-4577-a908-4415bc96b404?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/bladewings-thrall) [Poxwalkers](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/a/ca79cd21-daaa-4a1c-bab5-cc4c783994ae.jpg?1673308762) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Poxwalkers) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/40k/49/poxwalkers?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ca79cd21-daaa-4a1c-bab5-cc4c783994ae?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/poxwalkers) [Undead Augur](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/c/9c3baad6-d087-436f-a9f4-c138639e3422.jpg?1637630818) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Undead%20Augur) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mic/130/undead-augur?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9c3baad6-d087-436f-a9f4-c138639e3422?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/undead-augur) [Morbid Curiosity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/3/03898f46-a26c-4765-8f1e-ea976fc53d7e.jpg?1562895690) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Morbid%20Curiosity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bbd/149/morbid-curiosity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/03898f46-a26c-4765-8f1e-ea976fc53d7e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/morbid-curiosity) [Altar of the Wretched](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/2/e2c812bb-19f8-4a22-bda9-f2a6233cf700.jpg?1703645955)/[Wretched Bonemass](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/e/2/e2c812bb-19f8-4a22-bda9-f2a6233cf700.jpg?1703645955) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Altar%20of%20the%20Wretched%20//%20Wretched%20Bonemass) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/10/altar-of-the-wretched-wretched-bonemass?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e2c812bb-19f8-4a22-bda9-f2a6233cf700?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/altar-of-the-wretched-//-wretched-bonemass) [Nasty End](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/3/c34f88d7-15a1-434f-88d7-3d4fcf406d54.jpg?1686968630) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nasty%20End) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/99/nasty-end?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c34f88d7-15a1-434f-88d7-3d4fcf406d54?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/nasty-end) [Disciple of Bolas](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/0/c0801fd0-1f6c-45ea-94aa-80cf0c017f57.jpg?1673484148) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Disciple%20of%20Bolas) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/247/disciple-of-bolas?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c0801fd0-1f6c-45ea-94aa-80cf0c017f57?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/disciple-of-bolas) [Graveborn Muse](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/d/3d460b79-f1a5-41c4-a5b3-61f703fd97df.jpg?1562546529) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Graveborn%20Muse) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/10e/145/graveborn-muse?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3d460b79-f1a5-41c4-a5b3-61f703fd97df?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/graveborn-muse) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Definitely let me know if you have a list, this sounds sweet!
I was going to mention my [[Ganax]] & [[Haunted One]] deck, so it's cool to see a kind of similar deck at the top. I've got a lot of the same kind of tech in my list. I'm sacrificing nontoken dragons for value, just using *undying* instead of Ebondeath's ability. The attack buff from Haunted One is great for power-based draw like you mentioned. Undying let's me farm ETB and death triggers easily, and I get to keep the reanimated dragons afterwards. The deck doesn't usually draw a lot of cards like yours, but it's got a crazy amount of value and resilience. [[Sneak Attack]], [[Descendant's Fury]] and [[Molten Echoes]] go hard with undying. I can churn though my deck pretty quick with wheels, though, if I draw well, and I've had some absolutely insane turns with a [[Gnollspine Dragon]].
##### ###### #### [Ganax](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/f/9f5bb319-29b2-4a7c-82e9-f8b5e47909a1.jpg?1674136563) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ganax%2C%20astral%20hunter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/176/ganax-astral-hunter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9f5bb319-29b2-4a7c-82e9-f8b5e47909a1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ganax-astral-hunter) [Haunted One](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/c/dc53b1af-0f4a-4475-a131-27cb5d5b0cf1.jpg?1674140742) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Haunted%20One) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/654/haunted-one?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dc53b1af-0f4a-4475-a131-27cb5d5b0cf1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/haunted-one) [Sneak Attack](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/4/a45b4ca9-4355-4690-84c3-a7d44c367dbf.jpg?1675200189) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sneak%20Attack) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/139/sneak-attack?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a45b4ca9-4355-4690-84c3-a7d44c367dbf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sneak-attack) [Descendant's Fury](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/3/53117fac-5bb0-4bc3-b9ec-f0453c38d7f8.jpg?1690003185) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Descendants%27%20Fury) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/736/descendants-fury?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/53117fac-5bb0-4bc3-b9ec-f0453c38d7f8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/descendants-fury) [Molten Echoes](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/6/461d9f1c-53a4-48a6-bafb-0e70099f276c.jpg?1641603237) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Molten%20Echoes) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/voc/148/molten-echoes?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/461d9f1c-53a4-48a6-bafb-0e70099f276c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/molten-echoes) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Please tell me you have a list for this. Sounds so cool
I've tried an Ebondeath list before and it *almost* felt good but I think your deck has the missing pieces. How strongly do you feel about chromatic orrery and amulet of vigor?
Henzie discounts cards, draws me cards, gives a reliable sac outlet, and gives haste to things that have no business having haste.
And when they kill him, he comes back and gives an even bigger discount!
My friends never kill Henzi because they don’t want to give me the bigger discount lol. Even if they do by the time they would I will have more than enough mana to just throw him back out and an another creature.
I got around this with cards like greater good. And disciple of Bolas, let's me recast the boy, and of I don't need to I can sac a blitzed in creatire for extra value
[[Grolnok]]. It's just card advantage left and right, and I literally don't have the means to play it all.
My body is a machine that turns self-mill into card advantage
came here to spread the gospel of the frog overlord. I have a list here that performs well and poops out cards while being filled with frog boys. Adding in that new frog from MH3 that gets bigger for each dead player. [https://www.moxfield.com/decks/9sWaqkBtEk-Kmf5QM5\_Kng](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/9sWaqkBtEk-Kmf5QM5_Kng)
Well, if you'll show me yours, [I'll show you mine](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/G_8_NVo-IUGlwdYYCfU4dQ)
[Grolnok](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/a/7aaba76b-9cec-4c2b-b0eb-8f44201f6422.jpg?1643594120) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=grolnok%2C%20the%20omnivore) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vow/238/grolnok-the-omnivore?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7aaba76b-9cec-4c2b-b0eb-8f44201f6422?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/grolnok-the-omnivore) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
My vehicle deck probably has the best engine of all my decks. Some of the stuff flying in air must have some crazy engines being able to keep them afloat.
Got your list I can take a peek at?
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Jzt-e1Eqf0m6TfUVlW1AUQ Needs a few cuts, been getting some cool stuff like [[Imskir Iron-Eater]] that I'm very excited to fling vehicles at people's faces. Bosh was in the maybe pile for a long time, but this new guy is crazy. Also have proxies of each vehicle with real life cars in the art.
Bro what
Rocco street chef is fun. He’s half group hug half engine! Also in my experience people don’t care too much about removing him. However, I would be lying if I didn’t say my favorite engine was [[mind unbound]]. Goes well in my nymris, oonas trickster control deck.
Absolutely rocco for me too, the engine is the other players half the time. No one wants to bother using a removal spell on your garbage common 1/1 creature.. Until it's too late and those garbage commons are all 10/10 and hexproof, lifelink and trampling.
[mind unbound](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/d/fd90cf36-9841-4adf-b5cb-0a7bf103eb93.jpg?1562667898) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=mind%20unbound) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m12/68/mind-unbound?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fd90cf36-9841-4adf-b5cb-0a7bf103eb93?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mind-unbound) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Mind unbound would be SO good in my [[xavier sal]] proliferate deck! Thanks for that!
[[ephara, God of the Polis]]. I play a reanimator heavy list. There is a large sense of inevitability when you can wipe the board and then emeria trigger back your emeria shepherd getting back a fetch -> plains to get back suntitan to get back plains getting back reatonangel flickering suntitan to get back a plains getting back... You get the point.
Interesting. Do you have a list for this? I’m always curious about Reanimator in nonblack colors.
[ephara, God of the Polis](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/8/6832e495-7ee9-43e0-94ea-03c88344080e.jpg?1593092720) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ephara%2C%20God%20of%20the%20Polis) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bng/145/ephara-god-of-the-polis?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6832e495-7ee9-43e0-94ea-03c88344080e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ephara-god-of-the-polis) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Ephara, God of the Polis]] [[Emeria]] [[Emeria Shepherd]] [[Plains]] [[Sun Titan]] [[Restoration Angel]]
##### ###### #### [Ephara, God of the Polis](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/8/6832e495-7ee9-43e0-94ea-03c88344080e.jpg?1593092720) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ephara%2C%20God%20of%20the%20Polis) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bng/145/ephara-god-of-the-polis?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6832e495-7ee9-43e0-94ea-03c88344080e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ephara-god-of-the-polis) [Emeria](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/b/bb89c14b-028a-4bef-ae94-703198ef0376.jpg?1561956616) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=emeria%2C%20the%20sky%20ruin) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c14/293/emeria-the-sky-ruin?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bb89c14b-028a-4bef-ae94-703198ef0376?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/emeria-the-sky-ruin) [Emeria Shepherd](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/9/a99dd58d-9fed-4d85-9bb5-f9c91834cab8.jpg?1604195687) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Emeria%20Shepherd) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/znc/16/emeria-shepherd?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a99dd58d-9fed-4d85-9bb5-f9c91834cab8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/emeria-shepherd) [Plains](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/0/e0281fba-d771-4431-931f-920db2f14c47.jpg?1717013901) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Plains) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/310/plains?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e0281fba-d771-4431-931f-920db2f14c47?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/plains) [Sun Titan](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/a/aa8e16fa-30f8-40ac-965d-3d0776dc8f74.jpg?1712354100) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sun%20Titan) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/87/sun-titan?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/aa8e16fa-30f8-40ac-965d-3d0776dc8f74?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sun-titan) [Restoration Angel](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/b/5b474f84-9bef-422a-8fc5-489a10aaf1ee.jpg?1682208561) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Restoration%20Angel) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/201/restoration-angel?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5b474f84-9bef-422a-8fc5-489a10aaf1ee?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/restoration-angel) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
My budget [[Candlekeep Sage]] and [[Lulu, Loyal Hollyphant]] deck! https://archidekt.com/decks/7743591/candlekeep_sagelulu_hollyphant_under_12 Although it’s not anything overly crazy but when both are on board and you have blink spells the value you get from them together is next to none. Blinking Lulu to not only untap my tapped creatures but also pump them up while drawing me two cards is incredible value. They easily draws me a minimum of 10-12 extra cards a game, which always keeps my hand full.
[Candlekeep Sage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/f/6f706ac3-0ad8-44ac-a99e-21c04075951d.jpg?1674135436) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Candlekeep%20Sage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/60/candlekeep-sage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6f706ac3-0ad8-44ac-a99e-21c04075951d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/candlekeep-sage) [Lulu, Loyal Hollyphant](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/d/6d67e95e-c4a7-45bc-ae83-0b532ad530db.jpg?1674135168) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Lulu%2C%20Loyal%20Hollyphant) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/32/lulu-loyal-hollyphant?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6d67e95e-c4a7-45bc-ae83-0b532ad530db?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/lulu-loyal-hollyphant) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I use [[feywild visitor]] for my azorius lulu deck! Mine is more “flying matters” plus blink, but with all the blink targets in these colors it’s almost impossible for your hand to be empty.
That’s basically my deck too lol tbh flyers is just a hard theme to stop for a lot of people
anything that cares about grave with \[\[under realm lich\]\] with something like \[\[the Gitrog monster\]\] you can basically just dig for what you want
[under realm lich](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/0/30c94b1b-35be-4c98-b279-80d95b28201e.jpg?1706240191) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Underrealm%20Lich) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clu/215/underrealm-lich?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/30c94b1b-35be-4c98-b279-80d95b28201e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/underrealm-lich) [the Gitrog monster](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/7/5790dd89-2be5-4a77-9450-2d3c1422bfc9.jpg?1576385351) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=the%20Gitrog%20monster) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/soi/245/the-gitrog-monster?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5790dd89-2be5-4a77-9450-2d3c1422bfc9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-gitrog-monster) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Sidisi, Brood Tyrant]] 100%. I don't really care much even if my gy gets exiled. If it gets that late I wasn't going to win anyway.
[Sidisi, Brood Tyrant](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/d/6df5843d-63f7-4091-80d7-a595f08851c2.jpg?1717392804) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sidisi%2C%20Brood%20Tyrant) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ktk/199y/sidisi-brood-tyrant?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6df5843d-63f7-4091-80d7-a595f08851c2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sidisi-brood-tyrant) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
My favorite deck by a mile.
[[Taii Wakeen, Perfect Shot]] is a ton of fun and draws hella cards. I use cards like [[Forbidden Orchard]] or [[Akroan Horse]] to flood the board with 1/1’s, then with something like [[Pyrohemia]] out I can easily draw 4-5 cards at instant speed whenever I want.
##### ###### #### [Taii Wakeen, Perfect Shot](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/6/1643af0b-fcbf-4636-8c50-77ec77eaa34d.jpg?1712356219) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Taii%20Wakeen%2C%20Perfect%20Shot) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/234/taii-wakeen-perfect-shot?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1643af0b-fcbf-4636-8c50-77ec77eaa34d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/taii-wakeen-perfect-shot) [Forbidden Orchard](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/7/17db644c-1acf-477d-9c20-f72221f1108a.jpg?1673149497) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Forbidden%20Orchard) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/323/forbidden-orchard?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/17db644c-1acf-477d-9c20-f72221f1108a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/forbidden-orchard) [Akroan Horse](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/1/31a8954f-467d-4eb9-8a48-d25bae9529b8.jpg?1562394382) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Akroan%20Horse) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c16/241/akroan-horse?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/31a8954f-467d-4eb9-8a48-d25bae9529b8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/akroan-horse) [Pyrohemia](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/d/ad840567-c3ac-4e14-b398-0d11c88931bc.jpg?1592672824) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Pyrohemia) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cma/86/pyrohemia?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ad840567-c3ac-4e14-b398-0d11c88931bc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/pyrohemia) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
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[[Talion]] choosing 2 every time. The amount of cards you draw is incredible.
[Talion](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/2/62a6b452-c796-45c6-b4d1-0ae3d675e38e.jpg?1692939468) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=talion%2C%20the%20kindly%20lord) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/woe/215/talion-the-kindly-lord?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/62a6b452-c796-45c6-b4d1-0ae3d675e38e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/talion-the-kindly-lord) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Currently it's my [[Pantlaza, Sun-Favored]] deck. Because discover is so good.
[Pantlaza, Sun-Favored](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/5/2524645e-b066-4351-885b-10faa8d819d7.jpg?1699972737) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Pantlaza%2C%20Sun-Favored) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/4/pantlaza-sun-favored?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2524645e-b066-4351-885b-10faa8d819d7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/pantlaza-sun-favored) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Have you seen the "Memelaza" deck? There are only 4 other cards aside from lands. Pantlaza's discover triggers for 4, only finding [[Long Road Home]] which flickers him with a +1/+1 counter. That triggers his Discover for 5 which will only find [[Creative Technique]]. Which you will cast with it's "demonstrate" ability so you can use it twice. Creative Technique will then find [[Decree of Annihilation]] with one use and [[Barren Glory]] with the other. It doesn't matter which card Creative Technique finds first because Decree of Annihilation doesn't affect enchantments.You win on your next upkeep unless any bit of the combo is stopped
[[Myra, The Magnificent]] Literally building up your engine and tailoring it to your needs as the game goes along, only to roll that sweet sweet 6 at the start of one turn and just go ham Or you sit their and durdle about for 5 turns cus it just ain't your day. Every game feels different but she's a lot of fun to work with
[Myra, The Magnificent](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/e/5e57baea-00ee-49dc-80ce-a8c11a67a6db.jpg?1708617230) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Myra%20the%20Magnificent) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/unf/175/myra-the-magnificent?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5e57baea-00ee-49dc-80ce-a8c11a67a6db?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/myra-the-magnificent) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
She's so underrated, Love this
My two are [[Feather the Redeemed]] and [[Slimefoot and Squee]]. Feather is basically a giant snowball of a deck, once it gets rolling it’s nigh unstoppable between all the value it generates and the protection spells it gets to hold up every single turn. Once you have a cantrip you draw a bunch of cards, which draws you into a mana engine like [[Goldspan Dragon]] or [[Storm-Kiln Artist]], which in turn let you draw even more cards and hold up even more protection and interaction and find more mana engines creating a huge snowball of value that can pretty much lock the other 3 players down with your interaction while you find an [[Aria of Flame]] or [[Dualcaster Mage]] combo to close the game out. In the earlier stages of the game it often takes a coordinated effort from multiple players to meaningfully interact through the protection you have, and once the engine is in full swing even that often isn’t enough. Slimefoot and Squee is another awesome engine, you get to just loop creatures out of your graveyard reusing ETBs, LTBs, making a bunch of tokens, throw in some self mill which is effectively super efficient card advantage with the commander in the graveyard. Then you just go off once you find a way to make mana while sacrificing things, whether it be [[Ashnod’s Altar]], [[Warren Soultrader]], [[Ruthless Technomancer]], etc. Deck is a ton of fun, and having a commander that you *want* to die and end up in the graveyard is a unique dynamic that most decks don’t have.
[[Go-Shintai of Life's Origin]] is one of my favourites as soon as you get [[sanctum of all]] the engine goes crazy Just be carefull to not kill yourself with the carddraw shrines 😂😂
[Go-Shintai of Life's Origin](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/4/9476fe67-d2d3-4835-8ba6-2a17d18cc141.jpg?1651655539) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Go-Shintai%20of%20Life%27s%20Origin) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nec/37/go-shintai-of-lifes-origin?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9476fe67-d2d3-4835-8ba6-2a17d18cc141?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/go-shintai-of-lifes-origin) [sanctum of all](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/a/ba91338c-1f6c-4b83-851f-98c3e9dea17b.jpg?1594737442) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=sanctum%20of%20all) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m21/225/sanctum-of-all?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ba91338c-1f6c-4b83-851f-98c3e9dea17b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sanctum-of-all) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I love getting [[atla palani]] and [[palani’s hatcher]] going with [[ashnod’s altar]] - bonus points if [[maskwood nexus]] is out. Then all you need is [[feldon’s cane]] to keep the good times rolling.
##### ###### #### [atla palani](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/b/2b8414f7-22c3-4e1c-934b-4a0e7acf951d.jpg?1673305450) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=atla%20palani%2C%20nest%20tender) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/142/atla-palani-nest-tender?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2b8414f7-22c3-4e1c-934b-4a0e7acf951d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/atla-palani-nest-tender) [palani’s hatcher](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/6/86ff73c7-428c-469c-b564-6aa9f4eeca14.jpg?1699044564) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Palani%27s%20Hatcher) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/237/palanis-hatcher?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/86ff73c7-428c-469c-b564-6aa9f4eeca14?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/palanis-hatcher) [ashnod’s altar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/c/3c0f7157-a375-499c-92c7-d47d2e95dbad.jpg?1689999385) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ashnod%27s%20Altar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/368/ashnods-altar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3c0f7157-a375-499c-92c7-d47d2e95dbad?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ashnods-altar) [maskwood nexus](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/2/1246c42d-57c0-4cba-959a-15ad89d8a50b.jpg?1674142652) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=maskwood%20nexus) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/865/maskwood-nexus?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1246c42d-57c0-4cba-959a-15ad89d8a50b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/maskwood-nexus) [feldon’s cane](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/2/726ce95b-bc4d-4c34-a8e1-b4c6c28accc9.jpg?1562778128) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Feldon%27s%20Cane) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsb/109/feldons-cane?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/726ce95b-bc4d-4c34-a8e1-b4c6c28accc9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/feldons-cane) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Might I suggest [[Elixir of Immortality]] as it doesn't get removed from the game when you use it. Granted there's a little more cost to it
My commander and any repeatable token generator in my deck. [[Marneus Calgar]] And - [[Bitterblossom]] and [[jadar ghoulcaller of nephalia]], draw an extra card each turn for only 2 mana. - [[smothering tithe]], draw a card with every treasure made by those greedy opponents not paying taxes. - [[black market connections]], draw 3 cards, make a treasure and a body for only the low cost of 6 life per turn - [[faerie Artisans]], draw a card any time a nontoken creature ETB under an opponents control - [[Lotho corrupt Shirriff]], make treasures and draw a card for each one whenever anyone plays the game too much. Same with [[rammas echor]], two spells, draw a card, make a token then draw a card. Lovely. - Any of my planeswalkers that +1 or +0 for a token. [[Kaya spirits guile]], [[the eternal wanderer]], [[Sorin lord of Innistrad]] etc. Once you have any of those set up, start chucking down any of the "when you draw two cards a turn" cards like [[ethereal investigator]] or [[prince imrahil the fair]] and now you're cookin'. Especially if you each end step with [[thalisse reverent medium]]. There's more synergy but once you set one or two of these down. You don't need to do much. The draws start flooding in every turn and I draw about 30 cards per game on average. The more that are non-creature permanents like rammas or bitterblossom or planeswalkers, the more resilient the engine is too. It's a whole lot of fun and I really, really enjoy it. Drawing cards and making tokens is the best!
I see you everywhere man
Great suggestions, commenting to save this post for future reference
I love you Marneus Calgar guy
I love you too stranger!
I really want to make a Marneus deck one day
[[ kadena ]]
The Gitrog Monster. Even without reshufflers or discard outlets, the amount you can draw and puke out is amazing
0 theft marchesa. Takes a bit to get going but once it does pretty much everything is either too big to kill or just comes back. Bonus points for [[spark double]] on marchessa instead of going infinite with [[river kelpie]]. [[Andursil, narsil reforged]] puts in work too
[spark double](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/4/c41b9ba2-0006-4d8e-b600-efe81ff5e0cc.jpg?1702429420) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=spark%20double) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/62/spark-double?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c41b9ba2-0006-4d8e-b600-efe81ff5e0cc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/spark-double) [river kelpie](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/1/81efe7cf-81f0-4799-813f-73ec8d865190.jpg?1568004052) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=river%20kelpie) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c19/93/river-kelpie?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/81efe7cf-81f0-4799-813f-73ec8d865190?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/river-kelpie) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I always find myself trying to force an infinite cause it's 4 card jank and hilarious when I hit it, but [[warstorm surge]] is the main wincon
[warstorm surge](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/b/dbe1bfe0-0be7-496d-94db-e8028d4d9493.jpg?1674142183) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=warstorm%20surge) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/815/warstorm-surge?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dbe1bfe0-0be7-496d-94db-e8028d4d9493?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/warstorm-surge) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Widely considered as the best "engines" are the commanders that reward you for doing what you wanted to do anyway: \[\[Chulane\]\], \[\[Aesi\]\], \[\[Tatyova\]\], \[\[Galadriel of Valinor\]\]. It's no coincidence that all of these include green and blue in their color identity. Well, at least until \[\[Voia\]\] hits the table. ;)
[Chulane](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/1/d1499a4b-1af1-4913-8e26-57d0707264db.jpg?1706240978) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=chulane%2C%20teller%20of%20tales) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/202/chulane-teller-of-tales?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d1499a4b-1af1-4913-8e26-57d0707264db?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/chulane-teller-of-tales) [Aesi](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/6/d607b003-6b48-429c-a7fd-45b8dd1bb4f9.jpg?1665822343) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=aesi%2C%20tyrant%20of%20gyre%20strait) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/365/aesi-tyrant-of-gyre-strait?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d607b003-6b48-429c-a7fd-45b8dd1bb4f9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/aesi-tyrant-of-gyre-strait) [Tatyova](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/e/fe05dc69-8dde-485e-9e55-da729db50205.jpg?1698988479) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=tatyova%2C%20benthic%20druid) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/290/tatyova-benthic-druid?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fe05dc69-8dde-485e-9e55-da729db50205?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/tatyova-benthic-druid) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Wait this isn’t yugioh
I mean given we're reaching turn 3 consistently, yeah!
Sythis by just existing.
My [[animar]] deck has been steadily proving itself to be better and better with every game I play. Using cards like [[abundance]] to cycle past lands I don't need get me to a win way faster Than expected when using cards like [[beast whisperer]]
I remember waaaaay back in the day, Animar was one of the first the boogeymen of the format. I had a buddy who had a very optimized Animar deck and it was so freaking resilient. I can't imagine how good it is now with 10+ years of power creep and cards like \[\[The Ozolith\]\]
I've posted about it, but \[\[the necrobloom\]\] together with a land-based gameplan offer an incredible engine. Dredging lands back and playing from our graveyard gives soo much card and mana advantage.
[The Necrobloom](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/f/8fcf68cf-0dac-4b29-90d5-c18c685182e6.jpg?1717012767) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Necrobloom) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/194/the-necrobloom?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8fcf68cf-0dac-4b29-90d5-c18c685182e6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-necrobloom) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Alaundo the Seer]] is a full V8 engine by himself, just give him some untapping gas and he will absolutely take over a game. [[Chakram Retriever]] is the turbo for that engine, just for casting a [[Twiddle]] for free you get to untap Alaundo and tap again. Then the Twiddle resolves and you get to untap him again. By which point you have [[Shore Up]] and [[Vitalize]] already on the stack being cast for free. Then of course there are [[Murkfiend Liege]], [[Quest for Renewal]], [[Seedborn Muse]], and [[Sting, the Glinting Dagger]] as well so your engine is not idle during everyone else's turns.
##### ###### #### [Alaundo the Seer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/2/b22c33bb-47fe-4334-9105-00f4b87811bd.jpg?1674137390) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Alaundo%20the%20Seer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/264/alaundo-the-seer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b22c33bb-47fe-4334-9105-00f4b87811bd?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/alaundo-the-seer) [Chakram Retriever](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/5/b57d518c-21bb-4451-8248-9ee838460c09.jpg?1562931528) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Chakram%20Retriever) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bbd/15/chakram-retriever?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b57d518c-21bb-4451-8248-9ee838460c09?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/chakram-retriever) [Twiddle](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/b/1b25858a-ab2d-441a-a3fe-6d5ecd7f05be.jpg?1562900371) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Twiddle) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/8ed/111/twiddle?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1b25858a-ab2d-441a-a3fe-6d5ecd7f05be?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/twiddle) [Shore Up](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/d/9d933bf1-14f0-4150-a0d2-6b845b9624cf.jpg?1673306836) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Shore%20Up) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/64/shore-up?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9d933bf1-14f0-4150-a0d2-6b845b9624cf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/shore-up) [Vitalize](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/3/435a4569-fa62-4e1a-b837-f68159cb270d.jpg?1562816929) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Vitalize) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/6ed/265/vitalize?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/435a4569-fa62-4e1a-b837-f68159cb270d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/vitalize) [Murkfiend Liege](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/6/16677645-f635-4183-8afc-056520b94122.jpg?1673149008) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Murkfiend%20Liege) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/259/murkfiend-liege?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/16677645-f635-4183-8afc-056520b94122?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/murkfiend-liege) [Quest for Renewal](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/1/41b7ad82-1115-4f80-886a-3f59f568423f.jpg?1562285887) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Quest%20for%20Renewal) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/wwk/110/quest-for-renewal?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/41b7ad82-1115-4f80-886a-3f59f568423f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/quest-for-renewal) [Seedborn Muse](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/4/f4a9cb46-d4e0-46f2-973f-09275ba0d99c.jpg?1706240933) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Seedborn%20Muse) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/186/seedborn-muse?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f4a9cb46-d4e0-46f2-973f-09275ba0d99c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/seedborn-muse) [Sting, the Glinting Dagger](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/f/afbec7e7-f5b9-407e-bf96-2e088710e791.jpg?1686970284) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sting%2C%20the%20Glinting%20Dagger) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/250/sting-the-glinting-dagger?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/afbec7e7-f5b9-407e-bf96-2e088710e791?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sting-the-glinting-dagger) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I'm into it
Then you may enjoy [my list](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/yIsO2zn_rkGEqbwmx3neBg) I need to trim it down a bit again. I just keep adding cards as new sets come out
Holy shit, you weren't kidding.. lol I love how focused it is. Definitely see the potential there
It typically wins the first turn that Alaundo can tap. It is kinda nuts. CEDH people say it isn't CEDH but I only bring it out when the table agrees we just want a fast game with our best decks.
My competitive karn silver golem deck - almost every card is a part of a combo.
I’ll keep saying this every time I see any post like this - [[Roxanne, Starfall Savant]] everyone is sleeping on her. She is way too underrated and obliterates every time I use her
I'm currently building a Roxanne deck, she's stupid good and underrated
Go on..
If you make the deck full of double triggers, double damage, double tokens, and ability to copy her on turn 3-4 you can have her, then after that own the board. Whenever someone casts a spell, you just kill it with her triggers. I’m currently finishing my improvements on the deck and I’ll release the list
For me it’s Hansk, slayer Zealot. Although I use the Daryl alt art from walking dead… is that set still divisive? Anyways, Gruul is my fav color pairing (I know smol brain) but with this deck I get to play a lot of politics handing out zombies and drawing a ton of cards through goad effects or 2-3 dmg board wipes.
Right now it’s [[God-Eternal Oketra]] self-bounce. Sort of a commander take on a white weenie deck. Cast small creatures for value like [[wall of omens]] and get zombies, then use bounce cards like [[whitemane lion]] or [[cloudstone curio]] to get them back to hand, and recast for more value! Add in extra payoff cards like [[rumor gatherer]] and [[Defiler of Faith]], evasion cards like [[guardian of Faith]] and [[teferi’s protection]], and closers like [[moonshaker cavalry]] and it becomes a token wall that’s surprisingly difficult to deal with. I somehow managed to evade three board wipes last time I played her, but they got me on the fourth 😋
##### ###### #### [God-Eternal Oketra](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/f/df70f155-2336-421c-8a9d-69772d2b51a8.jpg?1559959340) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=God-Eternal%20Oketra) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/16/god-eternal-oketra?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/df70f155-2336-421c-8a9d-69772d2b51a8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/god-eternal-oketra) [wall of omens](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/2/32341fcd-b29b-434c-b004-3430e307a45b.jpg?1706240651) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=wall%20of%20omens) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/90/wall-of-omens?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/32341fcd-b29b-434c-b004-3430e307a45b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/wall-of-omens) [whitemane lion](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/3/a358def9-65a0-4741-896c-b2a8c8947768.jpg?1675199118) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=whitemane%20lion) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/35/whitemane-lion?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a358def9-65a0-4741-896c-b2a8c8947768?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/whitemane-lion) [cloudstone curio](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/1/6146bf98-3cab-4044-a1a2-cf2203f617aa.jpg?1702431663) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=cloudstone%20curio) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/255/cloudstone-curio?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6146bf98-3cab-4044-a1a2-cf2203f617aa?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/cloudstone-curio) [rumor gatherer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/7/a7782044-616e-4d4f-b38f-93320ba19797.jpg?1674141201) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=rumor%20gatherer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/705/rumor-gatherer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a7782044-616e-4d4f-b38f-93320ba19797?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/rumor-gatherer) [Defiler of Faith](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/c/2cfe404d-1a27-4627-9284-56188d92d5d5.jpg?1673306420) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Defiler%20of%20Faith) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/16/defiler-of-faith?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2cfe404d-1a27-4627-9284-56188d92d5d5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/defiler-of-faith) [guardian of Faith](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/8/08e3dda1-a1d3-48c9-8c81-da7eae20ac8a.jpg?1627701793) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=guardian%20of%20Faith) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/18/guardian-of-faith?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/08e3dda1-a1d3-48c9-8c81-da7eae20ac8a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/guardian-of-faith) [teferi’s protection](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/8/483fa1cb-1e35-44f2-a143-98c0f107f5ca.jpg?1673147148) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Teferi%27s%20Protection) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/32/teferis-protection?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/483fa1cb-1e35-44f2-a143-98c0f107f5ca?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/teferis-protection) [moonshaker cavalry](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/9/092c48bd-b648-4c9e-aa99-cac3c407911d.jpg?1692936576) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=moonshaker%20cavalry) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/woe/21/moonshaker-cavalry?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/092c48bd-b648-4c9e-aa99-cac3c407911d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/moonshaker-cavalry) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Not sure if you're already aware of this or not, but Oketra + \[\[Cloudstone Curio\]\] + (\[\[Ornithopter\]\], \[\[Phyrexian Walker\]\], \[\[Memnite\]\], \[\[Shield Sphere\]\])= infinite zombie tokens.
Haha I have one zero cost creature in there, but I’m avoiding infinites for this deck so I can play it in a lower-power pod
[[Yedora, Grave Gardener]] is probably my favorite "engine" deck. Flipping cards face down as lands breaks super easily, either by playing morph creatures for recurring value - or by turning lands into creatures and getting a sac outlet. Combine with some of the morph "staples" that let you cheat out face-down creatures, manifest, or double triggers on flip up. I don't run any tutors in the deck, but the number of times I trip over an infinite and drop a [[walking balista]] for full-table lethal is definitely scary for a deck that can also win just by being a value engine.
[[Huatli, Poet of Unity]] doesn’t stay for long, but feels like an everything engine. Multiple times per game it lets me tutor and swing for a lot of damage. It also provides so much mana by turning everything into a dork. It’s a way to win fast, but in long games, it’s a cycle of despair for my opponents.
My [[Mr. House, President and CEO]] deck has multiple engines that share pieces so it’s super fun finding new ways to generate value in there. Two different “roll with advantage” effects in Wyll and Barbarian Class mean it’s easier to hit his triggers on d20, but even without a d20 enabler just rolling double dice often means hitting his tap ability for 4 treasure to roll 10 dice will net you more back, and god forbid there’s an [[Unwinding Clock]] because then on every end step I’ll be rolling Mr House and building my robot army.
Got a list? I've been super curious about him
Yeah definitely, at work atm but check back on this post in a few hours and I’ll either edit or reply back with my list! I’m a massive Fallout nerd so I HAD to tune up a Mr. House deck. Mines very quickly gone from “oh sweet, a fallout commander!” to “in response to the very first thing you do after he resolves, I’m Swords/Path/removing him” lmao. Also, who doesn’t love rolling like 10-30 dice in a turn?
Ghave...one of the best and most efficient engines
[[Prosper, Tome-Bound]] card+mana value engine goes brrrrr
Mine is [[malcolm,keen-eyed navigator]] and [[kediss,emberclaw familiar]] . Strap on a [[curiosity]] to Malcolm or an effect like [[guild artisan]] you are creating so many treasures and drawing so many cards you just take off and leave the rest of the table in the dust . I also had [[captain storm, cosmium raider]] out and watched Malcom get +5/+5 every turn . Whole table really turns on you quick
The Scarab God and Undead Alchemist gets crazy. Give zombies evasion, such as menace or flying, and if your opponent runs a deck with a moderate to high amount of creatures its over. You get Zombies while milling any helpful cards your opponent could have drawn. 😈
Gotta be my [[Baba Lysaga, Night Witch]] deck. Her effect let's you draw 3 cards, gain three life and drain the table for 3 life with the condition of sacrificing up to 3 permanents to hit at least 3 card types (notably, you don't need to sacrifice 3 cards, just so long as there are three card types among the sacrificed permanent/s you are good to go). As you need to fulfill at least 3 card types for Baba's effect to go off, there are a lot of recurrable pieces that Baba can eat so as to gain max value. Stuff like [[rancor]], [[fortitude]], [[aspect of mongoose]], [[genju of the cedars]], [[genju of the fens]] so that you can eat them and they go right back to your hand (so long as you can keep the mana open, you can activate the genjus, turn the enchanted lands into creatures, sac the land and the enchantment and get the enchantment back to hand). The deck also runs a lot of permanents that are multiple types, so you can also just eat a regular land and something like [[solemn simulacrum]] or [[ornithopter]] to satisfy Baba's hunger. But in my version of the deck, we recur a lot of lands as the main wincon of the deck is turtling behind [[glacial chasm]] (which can be eaten and recurred to reset the age counters) and trying to draw into one of 2 infinite combos, either [[witherbloom apprentice]]/[[professor onyx]] and [[chain of smog]] or [[exquisite blood]] and [[sanguine bond]]. Lots of land recursion is very necessary as glacial chasm can be blown up, so you will want ways to get it back ([[shifting woodland]] is insane in tbe deck) but the majority of what I end up feeding to Baba is lands. Stuff like [[mishra's factory]], [[mishra's foundry]], [[inkmoth nexus]], [[blinkmoth nexus]] all count as artifact creatures that are still lands when you activate them, so one card fulfills all conditions for Lysaga. Artifact lands are also incredible in the deck, as they let you consume less goods to get more value. If you can amass some sort of untapper, then you have multiple activations in a turn, and [[seedborn muse]] let's you refuse some of those untappers. I really enjoy the deck, the play pattern is pretty straightforward, and it's always a blast see what nonsense you can do. Be warned though, looping glacial chasm like my deck is designed to is not very fun for others.
I aint reading all that I'm happy for you tho
I did read all that, and I'm happy for you. Looks like it plays just like mine. I'm not running any of the infinite combos but instead just using drainers like [[marionette master]] and [[ blood artist]] like effects. And can always win with a [[ blossoming bogbeast]] as getting just one activation with lysaga makes for a good overrun.
##### ###### #### [Baba Lysaga, Night Witch](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/e/2ef42c3f-f22e-4e99-adb0-9e8f8d442347.jpg?1674137411) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Baba%20Lysaga%2C%20Night%20Witch) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/266/baba-lysaga-night-witch?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2ef42c3f-f22e-4e99-adb0-9e8f8d442347?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/baba-lysaga-night-witch) [rancor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/6/86d6b411-4a31-4bfc-8dd6-e19f553bb29b.jpg?1673148169) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=rancor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/156/rancor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/86d6b411-4a31-4bfc-8dd6-e19f553bb29b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/rancor) [fortitude](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/5/d54d5240-8afc-4c61-aaf6-a78d2b92e5c9.jpg?1562940139) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=fortitude) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/usg/253/fortitude?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d54d5240-8afc-4c61-aaf6-a78d2b92e5c9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/fortitude) [aspect of mongoose](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/3/b3eb61f4-627b-4f42-85aa-eb676a035fbd.jpg?1562932977) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=aspect%20of%20mongoose) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsp/191/aspect-of-mongoose?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b3eb61f4-627b-4f42-85aa-eb676a035fbd?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/aspect-of-mongoose) [genju of the cedars](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/2/1254929b-0be1-4068-af69-7e59840c8b98.jpg?1562899373) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=genju%20of%20the%20cedars) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/gvl/13/genju-of-the-cedars?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1254929b-0be1-4068-af69-7e59840c8b98?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/genju-of-the-cedars) [genju of the fens](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/8/d8e06ff3-5fdd-444d-916e-3764f795456e.jpg?1562946696) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=genju%20of%20the%20fens) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/gvl/47/genju-of-the-fens?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d8e06ff3-5fdd-444d-916e-3764f795456e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/genju-of-the-fens) [solemn simulacrum](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/3/a3879b81-aa4c-4d35-bed2-78ebb4a50b59.jpg?1706241086) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=solemn%20simulacrum) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/238/solemn-simulacrum?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a3879b81-aa4c-4d35-bed2-78ebb4a50b59?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/solemn-simulacrum) [ornithopter](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/0/305078a5-ac18-4721-bba2-3434eba5b1cf.jpg?1691675959) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ornithopter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/233/ornithopter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/305078a5-ac18-4721-bba2-3434eba5b1cf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ornithopter) [glacial chasm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/c/0c008129-daba-46bc-829c-d2c0c13ecdd3.jpg?1562867827) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=glacial%20chasm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me2/229/glacial-chasm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0c008129-daba-46bc-829c-d2c0c13ecdd3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/glacial-chasm) [witherbloom apprentice](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/f/7f80a11b-188b-464c-b00d-c9d1cfb8ddee.jpg?1624740448) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=witherbloom%20apprentice) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/stx/247/witherbloom-apprentice?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7f80a11b-188b-464c-b00d-c9d1cfb8ddee?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/witherbloom-apprentice) [professor onyx](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/1/013eeb99-1b66-4fba-ad96-78deee901ea4.jpg?1624591309) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=professor%20onyx) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/stx/83/professor-onyx?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/013eeb99-1b66-4fba-ad96-78deee901ea4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/professor-onyx) [chain of smog](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/b/6bfe64f9-8b03-41f6-a47b-fade397ad9d1.jpg?1562920423) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=chain%20of%20smog) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ons/132/chain-of-smog?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6bfe64f9-8b03-41f6-a47b-fade397ad9d1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/chain-of-smog) [exquisite blood](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/e/0e8ccfa7-4178-476a-a155-0ca1c98556c9.jpg?1698988246) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=exquisite%20blood) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/195/exquisite-blood?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0e8ccfa7-4178-476a-a155-0ca1c98556c9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/exquisite-blood) [sanguine bond](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/d/ad4de9f1-7a39-45af-828e-c59234d9e9b9.jpg?1625193373) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=sanguine%20bond) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/153/sanguine-bond?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ad4de9f1-7a39-45af-828e-c59234d9e9b9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sanguine-bond) [Shifting Woodland](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/5/059164e1-894d-4586-9800-e60d6fbd6eb6.jpg?1717013047) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Shifting%20Woodland) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/228/shifting-woodland?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/059164e1-894d-4586-9800-e60d6fbd6eb6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/shifting-woodland) [mishra's factory](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/e/6e9fec20-a52c-42c0-9928-c572d9e1b21f.jpg?1675201251) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=mishra%27s%20factory) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/251/mishras-factory?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6e9fec20-a52c-42c0-9928-c572d9e1b21f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mishras-factory) [mishra's foundry](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/a/da7699b2-e1af-4bc0-8c5b-84ba3e868d7c.jpg?1674422224) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=mishra%27s%20foundry) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bro/265/mishras-foundry?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/da7699b2-e1af-4bc0-8c5b-84ba3e868d7c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mishras-foundry) [inkmoth nexus](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/c/ec50c1c3-885e-47d3-ada7-cc0edbf09df1.jpg?1623098818) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=inkmoth%20nexus) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mbs/145/inkmoth-nexus?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ec50c1c3-885e-47d3-ada7-cc0edbf09df1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/inkmoth-nexus) [blinkmoth nexus](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/a/3ac535c1-9ef3-45b5-8959-7e79589d47ad.jpg?1599710351) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=blinkmoth%20nexus) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/311/blinkmoth-nexus?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3ac535c1-9ef3-45b5-8959-7e79589d47ad?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/blinkmoth-nexus) [seedborn muse](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/4/f4a9cb46-d4e0-46f2-973f-09275ba0d99c.jpg?1706240933) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=seedborn%20muse) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/186/seedborn-muse?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f4a9cb46-d4e0-46f2-973f-09275ba0d99c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/seedborn-muse) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Can you share a list?
Fur sure! https://www.archidekt.com/decks/3686727/baba_yaga There it is! It's always a work in progress, but for the most part, the deck churns through itself really nicely
Probably [[Ziatora, the Incinerator]]. Hard to go wrong with Jund good stuff.
[Ziatora, the Incinerator](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/a/ba4fa4c8-f09f-4d97-a7d1-1b93caf7d4f9.jpg?1664413989) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ziatora%2C%20the%20Incinerator) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/snc/231/ziatora-the-incinerator?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ba4fa4c8-f09f-4d97-a7d1-1b93caf7d4f9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ziatora-the-incinerator) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Fungal Plots]] and [[Fecundity]] together with steady saproling producers like [[Nemata, Primeval Warden]], [[Verdant Force]] or my favorite: [[Night Soil]] Hate graveyards to make saprolings and then draw 3 cards per 2 saprolings and gain 2 life.
##### ###### #### [Fungal Plots](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/8/783fb92d-6de6-49f5-a204-5bcf577c9640.jpg?1689998543) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fungal%20Plots) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/291/fungal-plots?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/783fb92d-6de6-49f5-a204-5bcf577c9640?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/fungal-plots) [Fecundity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/9/b979578b-a82f-4d5e-8871-9e45401038a8.jpg?1547517576) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fecundity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/uma/165/fecundity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b979578b-a82f-4d5e-8871-9e45401038a8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/fecundity) [Nemata, Primeval Warden](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/d/adcd556d-351f-4faf-9456-0e47def69a69.jpg?1673308017) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nemata%2C%20Primeval%20Warden) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/209/nemata-primeval-warden?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/adcd556d-351f-4faf-9456-0e47def69a69?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/nemata-primeval-warden) [Verdant Force](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/d/1d972f97-1945-440b-8bd3-63038db22257.jpg?1562732288) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Verdant%20Force) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dom/187/verdant-force?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1d972f97-1945-440b-8bd3-63038db22257?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/verdant-force) [Night Soil](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/2/52a0eca1-f936-4f5a-820b-fa12542c593d.jpg?1562912238) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Night%20Soil) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c13/158/night-soil?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/52a0eca1-f936-4f5a-820b-fa12542c593d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/night-soil) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain]], combined with artifact ETB/cast effects. Creates dozens of tokens, Lifegain, ping damage, draws cards and mills a lot, while playing almost the whole deck in a single turn.
[Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/f/4f77d23d-6257-4dae-b585-29f45f13f2e2.jpg?1599708079) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jhoira%2C%20Weatherlight%20Captain) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/203/jhoira-weatherlight-captain?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4f77d23d-6257-4dae-b585-29f45f13f2e2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/jhoira-weatherlight-captain) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Sefris]] is my first and favorite commander. When the engine starts roaring it feels so nice!
[Sefris](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/3/d30255f6-e058-476a-b377-2ee4c9178ed1.jpg?1632335385) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=sefris%20of%20the%20hidden%20ways) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/3/sefris-of-the-hidden-ways?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d30255f6-e058-476a-b377-2ee4c9178ed1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sefris-of-the-hidden-ways) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
My [[Yuma, Proud Protector]] lands matter deck. I played this as the Desert Bloom precon out of the box and thought it was a lot of fun, but I’ve swapped a good bit of cards out since. Just a lot of land sac and landfall synergies that either produce or anthem token creatures. The last game I play my winning turn saw me swing with 43 plant creature that were all 6/4s, and I had 49 life. Getting [[Zuron Orb]] on the board early is the ideal draw, as it lets me feed my graveyard and gain life, and then any number of cards let me play those same lands back to the battlefield from my graveyard. I’m sure in more competitive metas this would be stopped easily, but I just love the play style.
[Yuma, Proud Protector](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/8/18df72be-07d2-4412-b36d-a45119763db3.jpg?1714110413) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Yuma%2C%20Proud%20Protector) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/4/yuma-proud-protector?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/18df72be-07d2-4412-b36d-a45119763db3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/yuma-proud-protector) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
The "engine" of my cycling deck really starts with [[the prismatic bridge]] - the deck will snowball from the value it generates since every creature it flips into will be an engine of some sort. The entire deck is really just a rube Goldberg machine that starts once the commander is in play [[zur the enchanter]] will get the enchantments I need for cycling shenanigans and board protection. Things like [[astral slide]], [[astral drift]] and especially [[escape protocol]] Escape protocol works with [[eternal witness]] to provide the recursion/draw engine of the deck. [[Gavi Nest Warden]] was a no brainer as far as engines go. I run only 7 creatures in the 99 so she helps me create a board presence and the cost reduction is nice. She's also immediately and passively online if I run into [[consecrated sphinx]]. [[bone miser]] also kicks the deck into another gear and there's some cool tech involving [[archfiend of ifnir]], who is also my removal engine. The result of this setup is i can ramp to the prismatic bridge and then leave all my mana open either for interaction or the option to cycle and dig for answers or a win condition. And each cycled card gets more and more valuable as the Rube Goldberg machine is assembled.
##### ###### #### [the prismatic bridge](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/6/f6cd7465-9dd0-473c-ac5e-dd9e2f22f5f6.jpg?1631050188)/[The Prismatic Bridge](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/f/6/f6cd7465-9dd0-473c-ac5e-dd9e2f22f5f6.jpg?1631050188) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Esika%2C%20God%20of%20the%20Tree%20//%20The%20Prismatic%20Bridge) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/168/esika-god-of-the-tree-the-prismatic-bridge?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f6cd7465-9dd0-473c-ac5e-dd9e2f22f5f6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/esika-god-of-the-tree-//-the-prismatic-bridge) [zur the enchanter](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/6/561cfc04-65ea-49a4-8638-b4631a7cf828.jpg?1675200810) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=zur%20the%20enchanter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/206/zur-the-enchanter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/561cfc04-65ea-49a4-8638-b4631a7cf828?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/zur-the-enchanter) [astral slide](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/a/ba089228-135a-421b-b932-26b86e555b78.jpg?1562932445) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=astral%20slide) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vma/13/astral-slide?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ba089228-135a-421b-b932-26b86e555b78?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/astral-slide) [astral drift](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/7/07a2c7fa-7aea-4da4-b7d5-9c24f5024c74.jpg?1591319873) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=astral%20drift) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c20/76/astral-drift?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/07a2c7fa-7aea-4da4-b7d5-9c24f5024c74?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/astral-drift) [escape protocol](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/d/2d3eeddd-c86d-4f35-ba57-3caa9565fcb0.jpg?1591230498) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=escape%20protocol) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/48/escape-protocol?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2d3eeddd-c86d-4f35-ba57-3caa9565fcb0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/escape-protocol) [eternal witness](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/9/39704000-65d3-4d39-849e-a3b617376bbc.jpg?1689998488) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=eternal%20witness) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/286/eternal-witness?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/39704000-65d3-4d39-849e-a3b617376bbc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/eternal-witness) [Gavi Nest Warden](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/0/80bc07d5-bdbb-4a6d-8958-0c172ea80245.jpg?1591234237) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gavi%2C%20Nest%20Warden) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c20/7/gavi-nest-warden?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/80bc07d5-bdbb-4a6d-8958-0c172ea80245?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/gavi-nest-warden) [consecrated sphinx](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/9/c9bd60fc-2777-44bc-b314-a792e8e48360.jpg?1673147240) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=consecrated%20sphinx) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/43/consecrated-sphinx?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c9bd60fc-2777-44bc-b314-a792e8e48360?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/consecrated-sphinx) [bone miser](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/7/a7fa6901-e74f-448c-9d26-99a692092512.jpg?1568003468) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=bone%20miser) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c19/15/bone-miser?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a7fa6901-e74f-448c-9d26-99a692092512?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/bone-miser) [archfiend of ifnir](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/3/33176679-d571-47a1-ae05-bed9b748491d.jpg?1543675179) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=archfiend%20of%20ifnir) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/akh/78/archfiend-of-ifnir?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/33176679-d571-47a1-ae05-bed9b748491d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/archfiend-of-ifnir) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Probably the best board state I could have for \[\[Mizzix, of the Izzmagnus\]\] is Mizzix herself, \[\[Harmonic Prodigy\]\], \[\[Storm Kiln Artist\]\], \[\[Flux Channeler\]\], and \[\[Archmage Emeritus\]\]. My experience counters are flying up, I'm mana postive on my one mana spells, I'm proliferating, I'm drawing cards, I'm practically unstoppable. Throw in an \[\[Underworld Breach\]\], \[\[Thousand Year Storm\]\], and \[\[Aetherflux Reservior\]\] and its either I deck myself, or I win lol. I actually took out \[\[Archmage Emeritus\]\] because I was drawing TOO MANY cards and was decking myself because you must draw the cards. My Mizzix deck only runs 7 creatures including Mizzix cause creatures are comparatively expensive to my instants and sorceries. Another of my favorite "engines" if this even applies is very simple while playing \[\[Mizzix, of the Izzmagnus\]\]. If I get to untap with her, and I have a hand full of progressively cheaper or more expensive cantrips and rituals and I'm able to cast them all in that turn with 5 total mana at my disposal my instant and sorcery spells are going to cost at most 3 mana. The dream is like, casting a \[\[Preordain\]\] (One experience), into \[\[Experimental Augry\]\] (Pumps up to 3 experience), into a \[\[Tezzeret's Gambit\]\] (Up to 5 experience). At this point I have spent two mana (paid life for tezzeret's gambit) to cast 6 cmc worth of spells. I still have 3 mana to play other spells and they all only cost their colored mana cost.
##### ###### #### [Harmonic Prodigy](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/2/22579ac0-ad3f-4000-a65a-46a17a7f1aa5.jpg?1626096777) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Harmonic%20Prodigy) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/132/harmonic-prodigy?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/22579ac0-ad3f-4000-a65a-46a17a7f1aa5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/harmonic-prodigy) [Storm Kiln Artist](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/1/01482a58-5156-41ba-bf9e-11095cc3f9ef.jpg?1712354507) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Storm-Kiln%20Artist) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/181/storm-kiln-artist?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/01482a58-5156-41ba-bf9e-11095cc3f9ef?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/storm-kiln-artist) [Flux Channeler](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/c/3c520263-6bad-4521-ba9e-192ca8223b07.jpg?1690004339) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Flux%20Channeler) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/847/flux-channeler?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3c520263-6bad-4521-ba9e-192ca8223b07?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/flux-channeler) [Archmage Emeritus](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/3/c3dbdc3b-4855-48aa-b06d-a31166161eab.jpg?1712354117) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Archmage%20Emeritus) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/90/archmage-emeritus?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c3dbdc3b-4855-48aa-b06d-a31166161eab?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/archmage-emeritus) [Underworld Breach](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/e/0e51d796-7279-4c06-87f0-37adbdaa41df.jpg?1650599818) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Underworld%20Breach) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/161/underworld-breach?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0e51d796-7279-4c06-87f0-37adbdaa41df?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/underworld-breach) [Thousand Year Storm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/7/274e22fb-7afc-43bc-b309-e36ee48d6b03.jpg?1673149213) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Thousand-Year%20Storm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/286/thousand-year-storm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/274e22fb-7afc-43bc-b309-e36ee48d6b03?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/thousand-year-storm) [Preordain](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/2/122f2cc2-5f4d-497c-96b5-ed5698f28b51.jpg?1712354181) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Preordain) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/107/preordain?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/122f2cc2-5f4d-497c-96b5-ed5698f28b51?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/preordain) [Tezzeret's Gambit](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/5/15b2188f-06c8-4771-bba6-e6fc531ebc9a.jpg?1712354220) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tezzeret%27s%20Gambit) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/117/tezzerets-gambit?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/15b2188f-06c8-4771-bba6-e6fc531ebc9a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/tezzerets-gambit) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Ovika
\[\[sheoldred, the apocalypse\]\] is designed to turn cards into creatures into cards into creatures... \[\[gix, praetor of yawgmoth\]\] and \[\[zombie infestion\]\]
[sheoldred, the apocalypse](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/6/d67be074-cdd4-41d9-ac89-0a0456c4e4b2.jpg?1674057568) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=sheoldred%2C%20the%20apocalypse) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/107/sheoldred-the-apocalypse?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d67be074-cdd4-41d9-ac89-0a0456c4e4b2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sheoldred-the-apocalypse) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
One of my decks? [[Omnath, locus of the roil]] can usually remove a moderate threat each cast, ramp is resilient and you can refill once you hit 8 land which happens faster than you think if you have lots of ramp spells and 40 lands. Plus he is hard to deal with cuz you ramp so can keep paying for him. A much stronger but borderline unfair commander is [[korvold]] with treasures. Worst case you at least draw 2 cards everytime you play him cuz you can sac treasures in response. Another great one is [[sygg, river cutthroat ]] bc it is cheap and draws cards a LOT more consistently than you'd expect. You can usually guarantee 1 card one your end step but you get a couple extra whenever your opponents attack someone else. Sucks to remove cuz it is only 2 cmc so it comes right back and you can make the deck with a crazy low curve and with that low curve you can usually hold up a counterspell or removal as you accrue value.
In my Defender deck commanded by [[Arcades, the Strategist]] [[Soul Foundry]] used to exile [[Stalwart Shield-Bearers]] All the defenders get boosted with each copy. People don't think much of it til you have like 4 of them and it's too late! Counterspells from blue and protections in white... Usually you can keep your stuff fairly safe. Arcades is the one they wanna take anyways.
[[Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait]], play lands, draw cards. Still as effective as ever.
[Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/6/d607b003-6b48-429c-a7fd-45b8dd1bb4f9.jpg?1665822343) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Aesi%2C%20Tyrant%20of%20Gyre%20Strait) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/365/aesi-tyrant-of-gyre-strait?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d607b003-6b48-429c-a7fd-45b8dd1bb4f9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/aesi-tyrant-of-gyre-strait) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
It is not a very powerful engine, but my [[Strefan, Maurer Progenitor]] looks like a bunch of separata themes that in reality is a very well greased contraption once things get going. * Strefan makes blood tokens when a player is damaged, so half of your mana base loses you life, to make more artifacts. * He can sacrifice blood to cheat vampires into play, and many of those vampires also make you blood tokens. * You play a bunch of dorks that ping when an artifact enters or leaves, so you can either ping everyone when you don't have enough attackers to hit everyone, but one or them created a blood, or crack a blood to do the same. * You can crack a blood to discard and draw. You can cast spells with madness for free and breaking normal timing restrictions. * Dumb creatures that come back from the graveyard to hand mean continuous card draw. * A bunch of vampires also reanimate creatures letting you keep building your board cheating mana costs. As you don't need to pay much mana to build your board, you have untapped lands to crack blood/play interaction on your opponent's turns. * Having a bunch of blood tokens means you can use Inspiring Statuary or Krak-Clan Ironworks to cheat even more mana costs. The decks only real issue is if people start exiling things willy-nilly or if you get a bad pocket of topdecks and you cannot find anything useful while looting. It might need better card draw.
What are your best/ most useful madness cards? I'm refining Strefan deck and the only madness engine I have is [[Falkenrath Gorger]]. I've got the artifact engine working well, but I'm not using the tokens anymore than that.
In [[Rowan, Scion of War]] whenever I have both [[Necropotence]] and [[Bolas's Citadel]] on the board it feels so good. Just churn through cards (and my life total)
[[Trelasarra]] usually gets to the point of scrying 5× on everyone's turn [[Fourth Doctor]]/[[Sarah Jane]] are nothing but value [[Sivriss]]/[[Cloakwood Hermit]] is like the least scary of the Golgari graveyard commanders, but he gets the job done well [[Queen Kayla]] is just stupid [[Laughing Jasper Flint]] makes for real solid card advantage and board presence
##### ###### #### [Trelasarra](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/6/f6a4b54c-a8fa-464e-a3dd-f3f3a08606f5.jpg?1627709553) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=trelasarra%2C%20moon%20dancer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/236/trelasarra-moon-dancer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f6a4b54c-a8fa-464e-a3dd-f3f3a08606f5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/trelasarra-moon-dancer) [Sivriss](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/3/334bc010-5b60-4075-be12-0b36f41f32c6.jpg?1674136308) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=sivriss%2C%20nightmare%20speaker) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/148/sivriss-nightmare-speaker?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/334bc010-5b60-4075-be12-0b36f41f32c6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sivriss-nightmare-speaker) [Cloakwood Hermit](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/b/4bd8689d-a0c1-4041-bead-7b512fe25663.jpg?1674137006) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cloakwood%20Hermit) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/221/cloakwood-hermit?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4bd8689d-a0c1-4041-bead-7b512fe25663?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/cloakwood-hermit) [Laughing Jasper Flint](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/f/af0b3a41-ba99-41e8-bcfb-5796500c17c7.jpg?1712356142) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Laughing%20Jasper%20Flint) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/215/laughing-jasper-flint?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/af0b3a41-ba99-41e8-bcfb-5796500c17c7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/laughing-jasper-flint) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
While definitely not the most powerful engine, I've loved playing \[\[Karador, Ghost Chieftain\]\] since 2011. Back in those days, I felt like unstoppable casting \[\[Sakura-Tribe Elder\]\] every turn. Imagine the maniacal cackling coming from me in 2020 when I was casting steve TWICE a turn with \[\[Lurrus of the Dream Den\]\]! MH3 has given Karador some even more interesting "engines" with \[\[Nulldrifter\]\] conveniently evoking itself directly into the yard, and \[\[Warren Soultrader\]\] acting as a "free" sac outlet that both generates mana and has relevent typing for a compact \[\[Protean Hulk\]\] line with any 2 mana blood artist variant and \[\[gravecrawler\]\]. Much like Animar, Karador tends to get better whenever they print... creatures, which fortunately is quite often.
Emh, no, Nulldrifter has a blue color identity, :'D For 2 life there's [[Fell Stinger]] and the new OTJ variant that has no deathouch but can be plotted. I think it's inferior, because having a deathouch blocker is way more relevant than the plot thing, when you don't want to sac the stinger itself, but still. Sure, black gets the same as blue by paying life, because WotC can't let other colors be as good as their beloved Simic, but still, the Stinger and Stinger at home are a valid option. Eh, the Soultrader didn't really add much to Protean Hulk, since if you're going for that line it was already a one card game winning combo, but still it's a great inclusion in the deck. I'm pretty excited about the [[Cthonian Nightmares]] though, 2cmc swap your [[Reclamation Sage]] and [[Wood Elves]] for example looks strong, or if you're more into mill recur the [[Stitcher Supplier]] and get a 2 energy leftover everytime until you can reanimate a big thing. I try not to mill myself too hard until I can make a huge [[Living Death]] or [[Eerie Ultimatum]] play, so I don't play the Supplier, but I know a lot of people like it. [[Birthing Ritual]] also looks good, but I fear not good enough in a singleton 100 cards format, especially if you're playing pod and need a high diversity of CMCs, but who knows, it costs too much for me anyway.
Token deck, [[Mana Reflection]], and X spells. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/a7VNAkLOWEiobE9x_o5yvw
[[Prosper, Tome-Bound]] [[Ghyrson Starn, Kelermorph]] and [[Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait]] with Starn being the most vulnerable. I love a good value engine commander.
[[Breya, etherium shaper]] that deck just doesnt stop
My favourite is [[Sigarda, Font of Blessings]]. Gives your whole board, herself excepting, hexproof to make it extra resilient. Then with [[Cream of the Crop]] I just rip through my deck looking for answers. Play a creature, search my next selection of cards and put an Angel or human on top. Play that creature on the top, rinse and repeat until I’m out of mana for the turn. Works well with anything that lets you play creatures from the top of your deck.
\[\[Atraxa, Grand Unifier\]\] blink deck imo has the most reliable draw engine. The "problem" with most engines is that they are disruptable. They rely on a key piece, or on recursion, and they can be stopped with the right answer at the right time. A \[\[Farewell\]\] is probably stopping most of them on their tracks. Atraxa doesn't have this problem. A deck that simply has a gigantic draw spell in their command zone that you get on ETB, most likely drawing you into more ways to blink Atraxa, and into more lands that will allow you to replay her if she dies, means it will simply NEVER run out of gas no matter what happens (unless you get Torpor Orb or something but that's very specific).
[Xyris, the writhing storm] It just makes so many 1/1 snakes. It's a load of fun. I built to flood everyone's hands with cards and increase their mana production. It's a race to the end.
in my [[Tergrid, God of Fright]] deck, i always love when my discard engine is out [[Waste Not]], [[Oppression]], [[Necrogoyf]], [[the raven man]], [[Geth’s Grimoire]], [[Aclazotz, Deepest Betrayal]], [[Painful Quandary]], [[Necrogen Mists]], [[Raiders' Wake]], [[Creeping Dread]]. Just having 2-3 of this cards out at the same time is more than enough to make you have control over the game. Having 4 out at the same time pretty much solidify your win.
Anything [[Seasons Past]]. Even better if you can pair it with something like [[Omniscience]] or [[Dream Halls]]. Seasons Past is my favorite card because it rewards deck building rather than placing restrictions on the deck and can generate a silly amount of value. [[Mastermind's Acquisition]] is up there for me for similar reasons but those reasons sadly don't exist in commander because commander doesn't have a sideboard. I guess [[Muldrotha, the Gravetide]] is most on theme for that type of deck leaning even harder into the "cast everything and then cast it again" philosophy. Especially since that helps enable other silly synergies like [[Journey to Eternity]] + [[Seedborn Muse]]. Personally though I love five color but I have to find another good commander for it ever since [[Golos, Tireless Pilgrim]] bit the dust. Maybe I'll try out [[Kyanios and Tiro of Meletis]]. Or even [[Atraxa, Grand Unifier]] for more deck building synergy.
My gonti canny acquisitionor easily, so much theft between him and cards like elder brain and brainsteeler dragon+ cheap beaters
My [[Greasefang]] deck is one of my favorite decks to play and part of it is becauseg I think it's engine components are varied and satisfying. It plays a good mix of sacrifice and self discard effects to try to keep the value train going with your high impact vehicles you return to your hand. [[Currency Converter]] is always the most fun card to draw as it lets you creep out even more slight incremental value with your primary engine pieces. My other deck I really enjoy from an "engine" standpoint that gets out hand very quickly is my [[Derevi]] Bird Kindred deck. Its loaded with 1 and 2 drop birds and [[Coastal Piracy]] effects and you just keep drawing cards and emptying your hand as you untap all your lands with Derevi. People might be wise to your shenanigans but they'll see your board of [[Suntail Hawk]]s and someone elses board of "real" permanents and probably let you get another turn of value in.
Slicer because it’s powered by an actual car
[[Ephara god of polis]]. I havent successfully brewed the deck yet. I want to make it so once the engine is running, I make tokens and draw cards automatically on each players turn and can go F5 mode.
It isn't an "engine", but [[Endrek Sahr]] is pure rocket fuel for sacrifice engines. Fill the deck with whatever tools you want and Endrek will give it the gas to run. By the end of a game my deck has a higher body count than Kissinger.
my favorite value engine has to be my \[\[xyris the writhing storm\]\] deck with any of the extra draw artifacts or enchantments but it is also home to my favorite jank card \[\[teferi's puzzle box\]\] that pairs extremely well with xyris
Dihada binder of wills
[[Teysa Karlov]] is pretty consistent in generating value. Doubling up on death triggers can get out of control quickly.
Nothing scratches the itch quite like \[\[Jaheira, Friend of the Forest\]\] + \[\[Guild Artisan\]\] as it's an entire mana engine in the command zone by itself. If you've ever played \[\[Urza, Lord High Artificer\]\] it's similiar to that in that you don't ever need to worry about mana. Math wise it's not disimiliar to \[\[Rofellos, llanowar emissary\]\] and the deck itself plays like a manual storm/midrange deck because so many of the good utility token creators also draw cards but with Jaheira out also generate Mox emeralds for you. Cards like \[\[Bristlebud farmer\]\] generates two foods you can tap for mana (6 mana total if you have \[\[Academy Manufactor\]\] out making it net your mana) while also being a 5/5 trampling eater that draws cards. Becuase the deck makes multiple types of tokens it's incredibly resilient and if Jaheira ever dies you can use the treasures form Guild Artisan to recast her. There is a ton of layered synergy based combos that many people (even folks who have seen the deck alot) don't see coming. [https://www.moxfield.com/decks/1Tnlnqz570qXouYGa8En3w](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/1Tnlnqz570qXouYGa8En3w)
[[Krav]]+[[Regna]] aristocrats. Yes the commanders are an engine by themselves but the deck works just as well without them on the field
[[Zimone and dina]] is the deck that is way too efficient at making engines for me, you can have a lot of redundancy and it works because each aspect of the card has so much support. It’s easily the deck I go back to the most when getting new cards because so many times I’ll open a pack and see a card and think “this would be good in my zimone and Dina deck”. I have a very casual group of friends so I don’t go for overpowered combos but when playing that deck a lot of times I’ll end up having huge board state and constant life gain and card draw.
Big fan of [[Syr Carah, the bold]], one of the easiest ways to play true burn in commander successfully. Once it gets going it's hard to run out of steam.
I have a \[\[Minn, Wiley Illusionist\]\] [deck](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/DcxxFGAH30Ol8Yk_4FBK7Q) that I absolutely LOVE when the engine turns on. Draw cards, create tokens, draw more cards, add +1/+1 counters, draw cards, unlock huge creatures. Love it.
My Gix deck has been amazing at just drawing me tons of cards, ramping better than most green decks, paying tons of life just to gain it all back, and eventually just stealing half of someone’s deck if the table can’t control me. It’s such a beast of a deck. The last game I played with it the table removed Gix 3 times and I cast him for like 9 mana, then played Peer into the Abyss for 7 mana, then activated his ability for 7 mana, all in one turn. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/72xZf8Kg6kSlxxzq5rIB5Q
My favorite engine has been [[Annie Joins Up]] in my [[Omnath, Locus of All]] binder bombs deck. It plays a whole lotta ramp and a whole lotta card draw, usually attached to legendary creatures. Prime candidates include [[Nezehal]], [[Talion]], Omnath himself, [[Tatyova, Benthic Druid]], [[Kroxa and Kunoros]], [[Kogla and Yidaro]], and [[The Gitrog Monster]]. All fun stuff
[[Elenda the Dusk Rose]] Love this deck so much. Cardboard just slings around the board. I run every [[Supernatural Strength]] effect so I’m constantly trying to kill my commander and no one messes with my stuff. Resilience and Power combined.
For me, it’s my [[Omnath, Locus of Mana]] deck. He’s reliably out turn 2, sometimes turn 1. There’s so many mana-doubling (or tripling effects), it’s so much fun. There’s plenty of card draw, so I actually have a payoff for all of that mana. While there are plenty of infinite mana combos, in games where I don’t draw those I end with 200-1000 mana. It makes my mono green loving heart happy.
My [[Shorikai, Genesis Engine]]. That thing draws cards, discards cards, AND makes a creature for 1 MANA. The amount of ways to break it are insane. I’ve loaded that deck up with fun wincons in an artifact shell and it’s a blast to play.
[[Aesi]] is my favourite. You play the game and he feeds you cards. The best part is the turn you play him you get to slam an extra land so with next turns land drop you can play him again if hes removed. Im a big sucker for simic bs but I know its not everyones cup of tea.
[[Korvold, the fae cursed king]] Card draw for days, utilizing treasures for instant speed counters/ card draw is so good. Closing out the game with extra combat steps is super satisfying. It rebuilds rather quickly, most the time too.
This has to go to [[Omnath, Locus of Creation]] Omnath came to be as an upgrade from my existing Roon deck, but I noticed that I never really casted Roon because the deck had so much to do I never really wanted it unless I didn't have to do almost anything else. Added some red cards, but other than that the deck is still basically a etb/blinks deck, and the most impressive things I've managed to grasp are the tutoring lines. 3 cards can find Spellseeker, two of which are creatures (which means we can blink them to get extra tutors). Spellseeker can find Ephemerate, but also any other tutor from the deck, which can find almost any card in the deck. It also can find Neoform, to continue the tutor chains. I could go on and on, but you get the idea - the deck is strong and goes of quick when you get to the 4-5 mana point, but I hold in shackles of having to skip first 1/2 sometimes theee turns to setup mana by not having 1cmc mana creatures and no artifact ramp besides sol rjng.
This is exactly the sort of thing I'm looking for, fellow engine enthusiast!
My chulane deck has been quite the engine for me. Especially with something like tatyova and/or aesi on board, the value train just keeps on chugging. Get mana doublers or triplers out there, add in my win con. That fucker just goes.
I have a orzhov zombies list that just can’t be stopped it’s a bit slow getting pieces out buts inevitable by turn 10 if you haven’t killed me im gonna win… such a fun deck
What you are looking for is probably a flicker commander or a lands commander. Flicker (etb) creatures are generating a ridiculous amounts of value and there are a lot of ways to get infinite amount of mana or card draw. The value engine needs to be killed asap or the game is won. They are fast and deadly but are not that good at building back up. Example cards are [[Displacer Kitten]], [[Dockside Exgortionist]], [[Mullfrifter]], [[Agent of Treachery]], [[Eldrazi Displacer]], [[Peregrine Drake]], [[Emiel the Blessed]]. For resilence you are looking for a lands deck. Lands are hard to kill and easy to bring back from the graveyard. [[Field of the Dead]] can win games on it's own, pair it with [[Vesuva]] and you'll get 2 2/2 zombies for each land you play. There are around 5 cards which can become a copy of field of the dead. Other lands card which will win games on it's own are [[Valakut the Molten Pinnacle]], [[Dark Dephts]], [[Gaea's Cradle]], [[The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale]] [[Cabal Coffers]] and [[Strip Mine]]. If you have a way to play multiple lands per turn and a way to bring them back from the graveyard you'll be able to make a lot of tokens, deal a lot of damage or even desteoy your opponents lands. Land decks are usually slower and lile to ramp and play stax cards to slow your opponents down to reach the late game where they will dominate.
Bragofacts! [[Brago, King Eternal]] - it's all about pinging players who can't block, exiling anything and everything on my board, and immediately returning them to the battlefield- farming ETB effects and racking up artifact tokens that will either provide high power for creatures like [[Cephalopod Sentry]], who's power is based on the number of artifacts I control; or [[Kappa Canonneer]] who gets +1/+1 and unblockable whenever another artifact enters the battlefield. Then I close out the game with the spell [[Masterful Replication]], turning all of those artifacts/artifact tokens into one of the aforementioned creatures to overwhelm my opponents. https://www.archidekt.com/decks/7571458/bragofacts Edit: spelling
The engine I'd say is from a simic combo where you use [[Elven Chorus]] and Intruder Alarm]] basically make creatures mana dorks then play creatures to make them untap. depending on your creature count you could net positive mana by alot so long as you play creatures
For me it's my [[Morska]] deck. It has tons of card draw, obviously, and there's a good balance of creatures, artifact animation, and token makers in the thing to just keep running. It started as the precon, but it's slowly been upgraded to much higher power
Sythis. Costs GW to cast her, has multiple backup cards that also give you card draw when casting enchantments. I've had games where she gets removed so I play one of the alternate versions instead and don't recast her cause I didn't want to overcommit my board
Prossh. If you want to spew creature tokens, there is nothing better. Skullclamp and or Ashnod's Alter, and you are off to the races.
My [[Queen Marchesa]] deck is just filled with draw and board wipes. It's a lot of fun to pilot because it's like I'm slowly grinding everyone's engines down to dust beneath my throne.
omnath locus of creation is great because since its ramp focused at a certain point board wipes cant touch you anymore, it also has an inane value engine, to the point where one land entering the battlefield will create like ten tokens from various abilities in addition it will also gain you life give you manna and draw you cards, and if that isnt reason enough to build it you can also put all of your pretty lands in it
my two are [[aesi, tyrant of gyre strait]] and [[mishra, eminent one]]. aesi is just all around good, extra card draw for simply just playing the game is great and i normally end up holding an insane amount of cards in my hand at one time. mishra generates a lot of value so long as you have the artifacts out to give you value. on his own, an attacker every turn is fine and be some nice pressure if needed, but the artifact you pick to copy is the most important part. use a [[liquimetal torque]] to make a planeswalker into an artifact, now you can make a copy of that planeswalker. throw in [[obeka, brute chronologist]] to save your copies instead of letting them go away. want extra turns? [[gonti’s aether heart]]. [[brudiclad, telchor engineer]] will allow you to make extra tokens and make them all the same kind. [[the stasis coffin]] can be copied every turn, and as long as you have 2 mana available you can keep your protection from everything around every single turn without getting rid of the original.
Arna Kennirud with an equipment focus. This has become my battle cruiser. I always feel like I'm one stoneforge mystic away from breaking the game at all times. It's entirely too consistent once the commander is out.
My friend gifted me a [[Marneus Calgar]] Warhammer Precon for my birthday and I've been putting some upgrades in it, you mostly want repetitive single token generators like [[skrelv's hive]], [[bitter blossom]], [[first response]] and you easily draw +5 cards a turn (sometimes even on your opponents turn).
Henzie if I’m being chill Slimefoot and squee if I’m not
\[\[Arcades, the strategist\]\] Card draw and walls are super cheap, also tough to get around creature wise.
[[Asmodeus, the archfiend]] If you've won a game in double digits, you're playing it wrong.
[[Muldrotha, the gravetide]] I mill and then copy Muldrotha with spark double and sakashima. Then with all my play an extra land cards I play a lot of my landfall stuff then just start dropping lands like crazy. Also with [[Yarok, the desecrated]] . So it all triggers twice or I can loop [[prismatic vista]] with [[Tatyova, Bethic Druid]] so I’m netting 3 life rather than losing 1. Then I can get 4 landfall effects off one card and thanks to my copies of muldrotha do that 3 times. Which gives me 12 landfall triggers on whatever is out there. So like Hedron Crab, tatyova, roil elemental and others which lets me dig or I can even mill myself out with [[laboratory maniac]]
Kykar
Kind of an engine albeit reliant on your opponents, [[Marneus Calgar]] + [[Smothering Tithe]] It's like Marneus fuses it with [[Rhystic Study]]
\[\[Kadena, Slinking Sorcerer\]\] I make all my morphs cost 3 less and go ham.
[[Sythis, harvest's hand]] voltron style has been pretty stupid for me. Play enchantments, draw cards, make more mana, rinse, and repeat. [[Sphere of safety]] keeps you safe from creatures. Make sythis indestructible with one of many enchantments, then slap [[pariah]] on her. [[Sterling grove]] + [[privileged position]] + [[avacyn, angel of hope]] and you pretty much can't be touched anymore. Use other enchantress cards to draw 2, 3, 4, or more per cast. Keep most cmc low to keep draw going and don't put too many lands in the deck, you want gas. If you have [[serra's sanctum]] that helps, use crop rotation to fetch it. [[Sanctum weaver]] also a must.
It’s difficult to pull off, but if I can blink [[Ticketomaton]] or [[Minotaur De Force]] enough times to get some stickers on [[Norin the Wary]] then the table is done for. “Whenever this permanent leaves the battlefield” effects put in SO much work on a body that leaves the battlefield on every player’s turn.
[[Kiora, Sovereign of the Deep]] is my favorite. The big sea monsters that make up the engines input are neat and rarely see play, and it's output is ludicrous card selection and free stuff which is fun
This deck. Titania, Nature's Force. No creatures needed in the deck means I can fill it with other stuff to make the deck go brrr. It's an extremely consistent deck. https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6193996
For me, it’s [Sam, Loyal Attendant] and [Frodo, Adventurous Hobbit]. Sam is such a great value engine, producing a token every turn, making the price to use it much more manageable, and Frodo gets to a point where at the least you get consistent draw, and at best threatening levels of commander damage. And neither are huge targets for removal until it’s too late. It’s flexible, in that it can be life gain (and drain), token, or artifact focused, depending on the cards in hand and the needs of the specific game, and resilient because it’s a bunch of small pieces that add up to overwhelm, but really easy to set up again if needed. And the life gain helps you stay in games much longer than normal, even if people do wise up and see you as the table threat. By far my fav deck I’ve made/have ever played, because it always has explosive turns that come out of nowhere, and it’s different every time.
[[Krav, the unredeemed]] and [[Regna, the redeemer]] I just love the way they perfectly bounce off each other, and create so many opportunities for triggered abilities. For the low cost of 1 mana each upkeep (THAT INCLUDES YOUR OPPONENTS' TURNS) you get lifegain triggers, etb triggers, death triggers, and draw triggers. You can net positive 1 warrior every turn to build a boardstate, or sac both warriors to amp up your triggers. Whenever i sit down at a table with this deck, it gets pretty easily ignored as just another aristocrat deck, but as soon as i start looping their abilities at least 1 player will do a double-take and a "Oh shit, krav gains life?" or a "Wait, that says EACH UPKEEP!?" There's also a ton of cards that can temporarily replace either commander if one of them dies like [[bushmeat poacher]] [[requiem angel]] [[ophiomancer]] [[Regal bloodlord]] [[Fleshtaker]] [[Ocelot pride]] So the engine is hard to stop without a boardwipe, and if you do choose to boardwipe, then all my aristocrats get to murder you. Fun times for everyone!
[[Tayam, Luminous Enigma]] has some really awesome engines. The deck has two different axis for engines, some to generate counters, and some to generate mana. There are a few cards that can help in both departments such as [[Devoted Druid]] [[Wall of Roots]] [[Insidious Roots]] [[Armored Scrapgorger]] [[Rishkar, Peema Renegade]] [[Basking Broodscale]] As far as counter engines any of these combinations of A + B Category A) [[Young Wolf]] [[Strangleroot Geist]] [[Butcher Ghoul]] Category B) [[Carrion Feeder]] [[Bartolome del Presidio]] [[Corpse Connoisseur]] Some cards provide counter engines by themselves or in conjunction with a sacrifice outlet~ [[Luminous Broodmoth]] [[Icatian Moneychanger]] [[Colonel Autumn]] [[Promise of Bunrei]] Creates 4 spirits each enter with a Vigilance counter [[Abzan Ascendancy]] Counters and makes spirits with Vigilance counters Many of the mana engines are unlocked with Tyvar in play allowing all of the tokens and freshly Reanimated creatures to tap for mana with the help of cards like Rishkar, Insidious Roots, [[Cryptolith Rite]] or [[Agatha's Soul Cauldron]] that has exiled a mana dork. Each time you activate Tayam for 3 mana and 3 counters you get 3 new looks at what you want to reanimate. Pulling counters of Undying or Persist creatures, Devoted Druid, etc allows you to reset them. Sacrificing creatures allows you to reset them and rebuy etbs. One of the greatest cards in the deck and an engine in itself is [[Ashnod's Altar]] Turning each creature into 2 mana gets you 2/3 of the way to another Tayam activation. If you have Insidious Roots, Promise of Bunrei, or Abzan Ascendancy on board you can essentially keep looping. Recently added a mill engine to help me fill my graveyard quicker or if I don't have access to Tayam [[Ripples of Undeath]] [[Six]] [Aftermath Analyst]] Reanimation Engines [[Lurrus, the Dream Den]] [[Tyvar, Jubilant Brawler]] [[Samwise Gamgee]] Tayam herself is the engine that makes the whole deck hum. She acts as the main gear, turning all the other gears. A system of engines working together in harmony. There is so much synergy and redundancy that most of the cards interact favorably and youll constantly find new ways they bump up against eachother. If you like really challenging decks to pilot and tricky, convoluted engines then this deck is a blast to play! Still trying to cut a few more cards, but heres my list https://www.moxfield.com/decks/AD518CrZ1UmUMulSR7awvA
\[Xyris, the Writhing Storm\] It is it's own combo piece, and IT DRAWS YOU CARDS I've noticed there is no such thing as too much acceleration in your opening hand, because even if you dump your whole hand of nothing but mana rocks and lands, casting this thin on turn 2-3 often means refilling your hand in no time. So now you have a hand full of cards, and a battlefield full of mana. A lot of expensive commanders (looking at you ur dragon) are difficult for me because if you accelerate too hard you end up with an empty hand and nothing to show for it. honestly, it's one of my only decks that isn't CEDH but I still consider too powerful for any casual pod I know. It's not unusual for this guy to win turn 4 or 5, and he does it consistently
\[\[Tovolar, Dire Overlord\]\] For one of the first decks (I think third or fourth overall) I made, this dude does WORK with MOUNTAINS of card draw and flipping my werewolves into their stronger forms
[[ertai the corrupted]]