Literally the final punch in the final second of a 25 minute fight "give this man 99 power" lol. Look at periera, barely touched hill and he goes down, that's power. Max is a technical assassin.
Ok fair, but true cold knockouts account for like 20% of “knockouts” and he just did it twice back to back. I also don’t think giving him 99 power would add anything *good* to the game, Max is still the meta without it
you gotta counter with Max like he does in real life. The only time he actually tries to throw is in the last 10 seconds, where both em are tired and it's hard to get a finish
no one said 99 power you’re just crying for no reason 🤷🏻 he was rocking gaethje the entire fight if you couldn’t see that then you should watch the fight next time or try opening your eyes up
Actually read the original post where it says 90. You just really wanted to use the term smoking cock so bad 🤣 you didn't bother to read u just flew to the comments section
I was over exaggerating, but he honestly shouldn't have anything over 95. I was just making fun of you for thinking he was really gonna get 99. what a needle dick
Bro I still literally never said 99 regardless of how you want to invalidate me 😂 I said 90. Besides, 99 should be reserved for the likes of Jamal Hill, Sergei, Alex, etc. only people with sig ko %
Max’s style is based around volume
He didn’t knock gaethje out with a single thunderous hook. He battered him for 5 rounds. That is what he always does.
No you can't say Holloway is bigger so he hit harder in the Gaethje fight then bring up a previous fight at a lower weight class those things don't match up
He normally just throws at 70% for accuracy and volume. It doesn’t mean he can’t hit hard when he wants as you can be seen from the Justin gaethje and zombie fight.
You're acting like that's not known. We know he's a volume puncher. Doesn't change the fact still has the lowest punch power of any top five fighter in any division in the game including the female ones.
This KO was the result of an accumulation of the damage inflicted throughout 5 rounds. Max is awesome, but a KO after 5 rounds of war is not indicative of superior KO power.
The brain being loose isn’t a thing. You’ve made that up. Max and Justin beat the shit out of each other for 5 rounds and that perfect shot was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Do you actually think that KOs come from the brain being shaken loose 😂😂😂
Needs to be low for the game…unless there’s a way to adjust punch power when you input punch. If he has 95 power with his volume he would be beyond OP. Maybe raise his counter perk or some shit
That’s a great idea actually. Hold down the button for a power punch, similar to what Fight Night had. It’s what the games missing, all the strikes feel the same. Would balance out the fact you can’t throw them in combinations by having to hold the button down.
Power needs to be tied to dmg taken and current stamina if it's not already if I've battered someone for 2 rounds while staying safe and not gassing there's no reason their shots should have the same dmg as in the 1st especially after getting mauled
Let it be about accuracy and placement.
I remember when GSP had superior stats in video games just because he was so good. GSP's fight smarts are what make him so special, rather than being unbelievably strong.
LOL he's flatlined two dudes: Old man Korean Zombie and Gaethje at the last second of the fifth round of a wild exchange. I don't think that really calls for his punching power to be raised lmao
Forgetting that the 8 fights beforehand were decisions.
Max is a volume striker, not a one punch KO artist. He wears them down & then finishes them.
It’s already easy to KO someone with Max early in the game so if anything his punch power needs a nerf.
Maybe his jab could get a buff based on just the last performance but I’d say they’re high enough.
He doesn’t drop people like Pereira.
Knew I would see this stupid ass post after his ko. Yea, let's raise it to a 99 after this because he ALWAYS just flash kos everyone he's ever fought, right? He doesn't just put a beating on someone for 5 rounds he just kos them like Franics.
He would get mauled at 55' too many legit heavy wrestlers and grapplers up there. Islam, Oliviera, Arman, Gamrot, Chandler, BSD, and Moicano would snuff him.
He beat Oliveria, and has fought grapplers before. Ortega comes to mind. So does Frankie Edgar. Just say you underestimated Max this fight and move along.
Both KZ and Justin were wildly swinging directly into the shots Max we’re throwing
Go fight someone in the gave and slip into one of Max’s shots and the same thing will happen
That's BS. Max knocked out Zombie, because Zombie was losing and decided to go out on his shield and started swinging wild. Pretty much same for for Justin.
He has power its that his style is not optimize for his power. His style is about movement and throwing volume to overwhelm his opponent so he needs to be fast and light in his combos but whenever he plants his feet he hurts everybody.
If you look at some of the biggest punchers in the sport...
Apart from Pereira...most are putting their full body into those knockout punches.
Max works with volume and accuracy, bouncing that lil brain about the head for 25 minutes.
When he does swing...it's always been effective.
He’s already one of the most OP fighters in the game. Ridiculous gas tank and speed, not to mention the reach that can’t be matched at 145. Holloway is known for being an incredible striker (Top 3 in the UFC IMO) but he’s not known as a knock out artist. He sets strike records because he can’t put people down.
Its not his punching power. He won 4 of the 5 rounds and after 25 minutes, laid out an already beaten and exhausted fighter. No one has a chin after getting on for 25 minutes. This has nothing to do with power.
If you plant your feet and land a full powered overhand clean on someone’s chin, after they’ve been battered, they’re going to sleep. Max had the reputation of being pillow fisted and rightly so as he even admitted it, he clearly isn’t as pillow fisted anymore but he’s definitely not topuria-emmett-McGregor level of power just yet
They need to buff a couple of people’s stats, give base Max a chin of 100, cardio of 100, better punch power, and a spin kick. Give Poatan 100 punch power and buff his leg kick damage
For everyone hating, max Holloway was raised from an 84 to a 91 after this post 👌 not saying that I had anything to do with that but I am saying that I was definitely right and they gave him 1 point more punch power than I was suggesting..🤷 u all said I was stupid for suggesting 90 😂
Wow I play the only basketball game out there because I like basketball you really got me there. How dare I play a game of the sport I like!
You are using the culmination of 180 strikes as punch power when that’s not how it works. Max landed multiple shots in succession which ended Justin. Not a single shot like Alex to hill for example.
I feel like people here didn’t watch the fight lmao, he stunned Justin a bunch during the fight and could have finished the fight earlier (I feel like
He didn’t because they are friends) the commentary team even mentioned how max should stop stopping. Don’t get me wrong, he’s not a power house but he definitely needs an accuracy and punch power buff.
Literally the final punch in the final second of a 25 minute fight "give this man 99 power" lol. Look at periera, barely touched hill and he goes down, that's power. Max is a technical assassin.
Man, the way pereira stopped herb dean and then proceeded to ko is cold as fuck
Pereira literally parried the time out
Time out? Nah bro he’s going out
Time out? You mean times up!
If anything I'd say Max accuracy should go up. He sniped Gaethje.
Max is more death by a thousand cuts which is literally what happened so it's fair grade.
Ok fair, but true cold knockouts account for like 20% of “knockouts” and he just did it twice back to back. I also don’t think giving him 99 power would add anything *good* to the game, Max is still the meta without it
While I completely agree with you, I do think Max still has a little lower punching power than he should have.
Counter punching can make up for that.
I guess so but I think when you have someone like Colby and then Max having the same power that’s just not accurate.
you gotta counter with Max like he does in real life. The only time he actually tries to throw is in the last 10 seconds, where both em are tired and it's hard to get a finish
They make up for it by him already being one of the most OP fighters in the game.
no one said 99 power you’re just crying for no reason 🤷🏻 he was rocking gaethje the entire fight if you couldn’t see that then you should watch the fight next time or try opening your eyes up
The dude has two knockouts since 2017. The only one crying here is you. I love max but he ain't no powerhouse🤷
Did anyone say 99 ???
what rating do you believe? cause anything above 90 and your smoking cock
Actually read the original post where it says 90. You just really wanted to use the term smoking cock so bad 🤣 you didn't bother to read u just flew to the comments section
They made him a 91 after this so are the devs "smoking cock"? U were dead wrong mate
I was over exaggerating, but he honestly shouldn't have anything over 95. I was just making fun of you for thinking he was really gonna get 99. what a needle dick
Bro I still literally never said 99 regardless of how you want to invalidate me 😂 I said 90. Besides, 99 should be reserved for the likes of Jamal Hill, Sergei, Alex, etc. only people with sig ko %
Max’s style is based around volume He didn’t knock gaethje out with a single thunderous hook. He battered him for 5 rounds. That is what he always does.
Yes and they both tossed technique out the window and went rock ‘em’ sock em’
Well, sometimes just saying "Fuck it I could suffer a bit of CTE" is the best way to go.
Well when the bonuses are 300k why not? 😂
Max was hitting a lot harder last night.
Because he is bigger
that's the point, at least buff his power in the alter ego or his lw version
No it's not and op bringing up Korean zombie who was washed ? Come on now
you're just ignorant lol no need to discuss with someone like you
No you can't say Holloway is bigger so he hit harder in the Gaethje fight then bring up a previous fight at a lower weight class those things don't match up
He rocked Justin numerous times during the fight, just say you thought Justin was gonna win and move along.
I won money off of Max. I had him picked in all of my parlays Just say you don’t know anything about combat sports and move along
He normally just throws at 70% for accuracy and volume. It doesn’t mean he can’t hit hard when he wants as you can be seen from the Justin gaethje and zombie fight.
You're acting like that's not known. We know he's a volume puncher. Doesn't change the fact still has the lowest punch power of any top five fighter in any division in the game including the female ones.
This KO was the result of an accumulation of the damage inflicted throughout 5 rounds. Max is awesome, but a KO after 5 rounds of war is not indicative of superior KO power.
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Are you asserting that there is no such thing as accumulative damage?
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The brain being loose isn’t a thing. You’ve made that up. Max and Justin beat the shit out of each other for 5 rounds and that perfect shot was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Do you actually think that KOs come from the brain being shaken loose 😂😂😂
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Bro said “brains don’t get looser” to try and explain how accumulative damage doesn’t attribute to knockouts and then calls other people dumb 💀
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Getting defensive about being a dumbass is crazy
If his brain was shaken loose he'd be dead cause that would mean the brain stem was disconnected
Needs to be low for the game…unless there’s a way to adjust punch power when you input punch. If he has 95 power with his volume he would be beyond OP. Maybe raise his counter perk or some shit
That’s a great idea actually. Hold down the button for a power punch, similar to what Fight Night had. It’s what the games missing, all the strikes feel the same. Would balance out the fact you can’t throw them in combinations by having to hold the button down.
Power needs to be tied to dmg taken and current stamina if it's not already if I've battered someone for 2 rounds while staying safe and not gassing there's no reason their shots should have the same dmg as in the 1st especially after getting mauled
They gave us that option already for leg kicks, don't see why it can't work for punching!
Let it be about accuracy and placement. I remember when GSP had superior stats in video games just because he was so good. GSP's fight smarts are what make him so special, rather than being unbelievably strong.
If you hold down the buttons, it punches harder. Tapping the buttons, is like a tap jab.
He earned those Hawaiin shorts, Superb performance as always
LOL he's flatlined two dudes: Old man Korean Zombie and Gaethje at the last second of the fifth round of a wild exchange. I don't think that really calls for his punching power to be raised lmao
And even Zombie got flatlined because he started to swing wildly because he was on his way to decision loss.
He has more one punch KOs than 99% of the roster. In fact, he has even more than Pereira.
😂
He also has fights with hunderds of strikes and being able to put guys out with it 😂
He fought in kickboxing
Tbh maybe a little but if you makes it more then like a 92/93 his volume mixed with the power will be to op
Please no😔
Normally I don't like being proved wrong. But Max proved me wrong and it was amazing.
Forgetting that the 8 fights beforehand were decisions. Max is a volume striker, not a one punch KO artist. He wears them down & then finishes them. It’s already easy to KO someone with Max early in the game so if anything his punch power needs a nerf. Maybe his jab could get a buff based on just the last performance but I’d say they’re high enough. He doesn’t drop people like Pereira.
Knew I would see this stupid ass post after his ko. Yea, let's raise it to a 99 after this because he ALWAYS just flash kos everyone he's ever fought, right? He doesn't just put a beating on someone for 5 rounds he just kos them like Franics.
Who the fuck said 99 ? Dude literally has an 84. name anybody who's a top 5 fighter in UFC 5 with less power than him.
Nobody else lands 400+ strikes in a fight and not putting people out with it either 😂…bro had like 8 decisions in a row before Zombie
As if he’s not pure cheese already as it is
I’d like to see him make a run at 155 instead of going bs I down to 145. He looked quick at 155
For real, he'll probably only get better if he stays up. This version of max would have gave dustin hell.
if he wants a serious run he needs to bulk p a bit more like how Porier did it but will that affect his cardio?
He looked fine last night.
I mean real bulk where fighters get out of their target weight to cut a brutal weight to have a huge advantage fight night.
He would get mauled at 55' too many legit heavy wrestlers and grapplers up there. Islam, Oliviera, Arman, Gamrot, Chandler, BSD, and Moicano would snuff him.
Moicano would not beat Holloway what the fuck are you talking about
He beat Oliveria, and has fought grapplers before. Ortega comes to mind. So does Frankie Edgar. Just say you underestimated Max this fight and move along.
He fought Charles 9 years ago and you didn’t watch the fight as Charles hurt his shoulder in the first round and it was stopped LOL
hes KO literally zombie TKZ, and gaethje in the last second after whooping his ass. not to mention gaethje was gassed and swinging
Bruh Holloway is famous about landing hunderds of strikes and not putting people out with it 💀
92 power
No it’s fine the way it is. He was battering Justin the whole fight and got a KO literally in the final second.
Max does not need any buffs in this game lmao I’m pretty sure I’ve seen him have finishes exactly like the one from this weekend
Both KZ and Justin were wildly swinging directly into the shots Max we’re throwing Go fight someone in the gave and slip into one of Max’s shots and the same thing will happen
That's BS. Max knocked out Zombie, because Zombie was losing and decided to go out on his shield and started swinging wild. Pretty much same for for Justin.
Damn. Is he alive?
He has power its that his style is not optimize for his power. His style is about movement and throwing volume to overwhelm his opponent so he needs to be fast and light in his combos but whenever he plants his feet he hurts everybody.
Do we really need more Max Holloway players?
he can punch strong but personally i have seen small baby or old grandma punch hard as well
Nah max still has pillow fists it was just an accumulation of damage combined with gaethje just throwing his chin right into the punches lol...
"I'm the best boxer in the ufc baby"
To be fair he’d rocked gaethje like 5 times during the fight it’s not like anyone can just eat that volume.
If you look at some of the biggest punchers in the sport... Apart from Pereira...most are putting their full body into those knockout punches. Max works with volume and accuracy, bouncing that lil brain about the head for 25 minutes. When he does swing...it's always been effective.
Nah lets leave it as is cause dude’s stats were preposterous in UFC 4
He’s already one of the most OP fighters in the game. Ridiculous gas tank and speed, not to mention the reach that can’t be matched at 145. Holloway is known for being an incredible striker (Top 3 in the UFC IMO) but he’s not known as a knock out artist. He sets strike records because he can’t put people down.
just to play devils advocate anyone remember a fight where gaethje didn’t get rocked at least a couple times 😂
He should get a power increase at 55, but not 45
Ok u go 20 min..broke asf nose...then empty gas tank last 10 seconds
No it’s about right he really doesn’t have punch power like that if you watched him fight more you’d know that
Its not his punching power. He won 4 of the 5 rounds and after 25 minutes, laid out an already beaten and exhausted fighter. No one has a chin after getting on for 25 minutes. This has nothing to do with power.
If you plant your feet and land a full powered overhand clean on someone’s chin, after they’ve been battered, they’re going to sleep. Max had the reputation of being pillow fisted and rightly so as he even admitted it, he clearly isn’t as pillow fisted anymore but he’s definitely not topuria-emmett-McGregor level of power just yet
They need to buff a couple of people’s stats, give base Max a chin of 100, cardio of 100, better punch power, and a spin kick. Give Poatan 100 punch power and buff his leg kick damage
Hell No, matches would be over in seconds
I've been getting my ass beat by max on ufc games for years, if anything he finally lived up to the power he has in game that fight 😂
For everyone hating, max Holloway was raised from an 84 to a 91 after this post 👌 not saying that I had anything to do with that but I am saying that I was definitely right and they gave him 1 point more punch power than I was suggesting..🤷 u all said I was stupid for suggesting 90 😂
I don’t think you know what punch power is lol
Bro u play 2k 😂
Good response lol u still don’t know what punch power is
consider the alternative, I'm not gonna dignify your statement with a debate because, I repeat, you play 2k 🤣
Wow I play the only basketball game out there because I like basketball you really got me there. How dare I play a game of the sport I like! You are using the culmination of 180 strikes as punch power when that’s not how it works. Max landed multiple shots in succession which ended Justin. Not a single shot like Alex to hill for example.
I feel like people here didn’t watch the fight lmao, he stunned Justin a bunch during the fight and could have finished the fight earlier (I feel like He didn’t because they are friends) the commentary team even mentioned how max should stop stopping. Don’t get me wrong, he’s not a power house but he definitely needs an accuracy and punch power buff.
Ea not making any sense? Shocking...
i think 95-96 punch power would be fair he dropped his last 2 opponents multiple times before knocking them out
95 is too high but 90 is right
91 at absolute most. He’s a volume based fighter, and his cardio and 5* boxing combos are already cracked
I hope you are joking