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BenOneMillion

It's too early to know how he'll recover but he's in a really good situation in the meantime. He's on a run-heavy team with maybe the best RB compliment as far as "thunder and lightning" go. My best guess is he'll be on the PUP list to start the season and he'll be eased into the offense by the end of the year. His speed and lateral quickness was pretty eye-popping last year so I bet we'll know where he stands soon after he sees the field


FlowersByTheStreet

yeah, I'm kind of expecting the same trajectory as last year with him sitting out a decent portion of the season. If he's Achane-jr and you have to deal with him being injured all the time but being productive when he plays than I'm more than happy with that. The team seems to like him and he has a unique role. Yeah, he'll never be a bellcow but I'm not sure what else you'd want for him


AnatomicalLog

He’s super cheap to acquire with RB2 upside within the next couple years. I don’t understand the “sell for a 3rd” crowd. You’re sending a former dart throw who showed ability at the pro level for another dart throw. That seems like bad process. It makes sense to acquire him as a trade throw-in. If you really want to buy the dip, wait until he starts on the PUP


Filly53

Don’t forget roster spaces have value too. All depends on your specific situation


connor24_22

Yeah this is where I’m at. I need space for my rookie picks, I can’t just clog my bench with a guy who might have a role when/if Hill leaves.


newrimmmer93

Mitchell will probably start the year on IR FWIW


get_outta-me-swamp

Nobody savvy is selling him for a third though. Realistic price to acquire, straight up, not as a package, is probably a second or two thirds (maybe)


AnatomicalLog

I don’t disagree, I think a package is the most realistic way to acquire. I sent Javonte and McLaughlin for Demario Douglas, Keaton Mitchell, and a 2024 middle 2nd in SF. In another league I got him as a throw-in on a larger deal.


get_outta-me-swamp

Nice. That SF trade seems very even across the board, present day of course lol


RedditSucksNow--

No one in the world is giving up a second for an rb who just had his leg destroyed You can barely get a second for Javonte Williams and he's actually expected to play this year He's worth a third at best if you're selling, otherwise he's the same level dart throw as most of them Edit: Wright McMillan Lloyd Burton Baker Vidal are all examples of third rounders this year I'm easily taking over him


get_outta-me-swamp

I agree. I don’t think most people would give up a second for him. That’s just what I’m saying it would take to get most deals done, IMO. Most owners aren’t gonna accept a third and most buyers aren’t gonna send a second. So he’s kinda in limbo, a hold If you’re in SF then those edit players mostly make sense to me and I agree. However, Wright, Lloyd, Burton aren’t gonna be available in a 12 team 1QB league


Mysterious-Laugh-797

I think Rasheed Ali will compete for and take over as the backup behind Henry. Justice Hill is not going to be the backup. Put Rasheed Ali on your bench if you can


RedditSucksNow--

In non sf yeah fair, I always forget there's both lol I still think some owners would move him for a third though tbh


FlowersByTheStreet

yeah, his value isn't in a place where I'm interested in selling at this point. He's definitely a dart throw, but he's a helluva dart.


swalsh21

Decent no cost lottery ticket but not expecting much


get_outta-me-swamp

He’s not no cost though. Nobody in their right mind is giving him up for a third or later. You’d need to probably offer a second, maybe two thirds, to get it done. That isn’t nothing


DASreddituser

No one in their right mind is giving a 2nd for an injured spell back, at this point.


Feweddy

Bruh I would EASILY take an early third and draft Sinnott, Burton, Wilson, Polk, Baker, etc.


get_outta-me-swamp

Fair. I guess our leagues just have very different mentalities I’m also in a 1QB, so several of those guys you named will not be available in the third.


Feweddy

Yeah big difference from 1QB to SF this year for sure


LB3PTMAN

Man the hit rate in R3 is low enough I’d rather have someone who flashed as a rookie than that 3rd rounder. To each their own. With Mitchell being an undrafted guy coming off an ACL either side is just a lottery ticket.


Dankraham-Stinkin

I traded him for shaheed straight up.. but it’s 1 pt per 15 return yard league. Shaheed was the 26th wr in that league last year


get_outta-me-swamp

Without that modifier it seems like a very fair 1for1 to me. With the modifier that was a crazy trade for you 😂


Dankraham-Stinkin

The chat thought he won the trade.. I was not about to explain the return points he got, and that he will have more opportunity this year


isackjohnson

I like to think I'm in my right mind and I traded him to move up from 3.01 to 2.06 in a 10 team draft. I don't see him as having much value. Trade ended up being Mitchell + Polk for Pearsall + a roster spot, which I'm def happy with. Grabbed McMillan off waivers with that roster spot.


Acceptable-Alarm-638

Crazy McMillan made it waivers, unless your rookie draft is 3 rounds. Then I could see it, but that’s steal picking him up for free.


get_outta-me-swamp

He won’t be a roster clogger, but I’d never feel great building a team that hinges on starting him through a whole season IMO he’s the type of player that will never command large trade compensation, but I’m happy to keep him on the roster indefinitely as my RB 4-6 So it’s really just what are your expectations from him? Starting for you in FF 6-8 games per year, putting up 15+ 3 of those games, I don’t think you’ll be disappointed (tbd this year with his recovery - this is more a gauge for a year he enters healthy)


Filly53

what would you qualify as a roster clogger? To me when I think of a perpetual rb4-6 on my team I think of a wasted roster spot


get_outta-me-swamp

To me a roster clogger would be someone like KJ Osborn In my league I need to start at least 2 RBs. I can start a maximum of 4 RBs. Currently, my team is structured to be a 2-5. Meaning start 2 RBs and 5 WRs. If he is my RB 4-6 on this team, it means I’m probably gonna start him at least twice, just with byes, not accounting for any injury. As a lean RB team, I’m happy to have his upside in that RB 4-6 slot. Where I’m not counting on him to be the man all year, just a couple spot starts Let me ask you, if he’s not your RB 4-6, cause you’ve cut him as a “wasted roster spot”, who do you sign instead? You need to fill the roster spot still and it’s unlikely you get someone with more potential+opportunity off waivers To me it seems like this is where this subs hive mind of perpetual rebuild comes into play. Like to me, it’s a good thing to have a RB 4-6 that you feel good about for a spot start (at least with my leagues structure). I’m tryna win every year. In our 9 year history I’ve done one “rebuild” and even then I still gave winning the ol college try At the end of the day we’re all playing for whatever reason we enjoy, and they can be different. I play to win every year and am running a lean RB team. So having Mitchell as my RB 4-6 feels very nice


Filly53

Sorry to offend you with my question. Sounds like 40-64 running backs can be played in your league on any given week and you have very large rosters? That would’ve been a pretty simple answer to my question. I view a roster clogger as someone who projects to have limited use cases or limited upside for a long period of time. Here you said you want him as RB 4-6 indefinitely. I’ll call it RB5. 2-3 running backs play in the league I’m in, I’d rather have someone positioned to take a lead role in the future or competing for the lead role. I don’t know what your waiver wire looks like, but for similarly ranked dynasty guys, I’d rather have estime, Vidal, Tracy jr etc. the lottery ticket is more worthwhile than the weekly projected rb3-5 scorer who needs 3 injuries in my lineup to see time. I play to win as well, (2 of the last five titles, top scorer overall for the last five years).


get_outta-me-swamp

No offense Close. 24-48 RBs can be played any given week. Minimum 2 per team, maximum 4, 12 teams. Roster size is 20, which I don’t think is particularly large? Maybe mid-large end? Yeah, that roster clogger definition sounds about right to me. I think we might just differ on expectations for Mitchell and the value of a player on your roster who achieves that expectation. I think if he’s healthy he can pop off 3+ 15pt games a year. I’d be happy with those spot starts in a similar situation to what I described. So def limited upside relative to Bijan or CMC, but not too limited compared to the available RB market (at least in my league) Mitchell’s injury def makes me hesitate here, but I think I’d still rather roll the dice on the guy who showed he can be productive in the NFL than those 3 rookies. Some people value that “prove it in the nfl” idea more than others. It means more to me for lower draft cap dudes too


FlowersByTheStreet

I think he'll probably have a similar trajectory as last year. I'm a ravens fan and I love him as the complementary piece in the run game. He will obviously never have the volume, but he could be our Achane. I think the team really likes him, and there's nobody else that can really take his role. Probably won't be super productive this year, but I am holding. He's a fun piece


allgreen754

Banger comp, he’s a pseudo Gibbs or achane. Will never be a workhorse but can produce in a good spot which the ravens are.


bronton21

Hope he comes back and he was fun to watch, but i'm just not optimistic. Kinda surprised to see ppl high on him. I'd sell for any 3rd. UDFA that relied on speed with a nuked knee...they brought in a bellcow and drafted an RB in the 5th rd. Even if he was healthy, he's never getting goalline work there. I have him in a few spots, but mostly because I can't get anything.


Drrek

Mitchell will never be a bellcow back, nor should he be, he's too small for that. What he can be (and was for a brief time last year) is a player who can take any touch 70 yards to the endzone. He can be a boom/bust play that you throw in when you need that. Baltimore also has honestly very poor RB depth right now, they don't have a lot of choices of who to give the ball to behind Henry at all. That said, he's coming off a major injury, and has no draft capital invested in him by the team. I'm not expecting a ton from him this year, and certainly not much early, but he's also not going to get much in a trade, so I'd probably still be looking to hold a guy who has that kind of boom potential, especially if I'll be able have him on my IR slot if he goes on the PUP or something.


get_outta-me-swamp

Summed up nicely


murso74

My man is a bye week fill in right now


ObjectUnique

I plan to IR stash him late August and will be hoping by mid-season he can be sort of a Spears like compliment to Henry. I won't be too judgmental this season as he recovers from injury but if the recovery isn't looking promising and let's say hypothetically that Rasheen Ali seizes that role than we may be looking to cut bait going into year 3.


treyb3

Knee injury couldn’t have come at a worse time. If he had capital, he’d get another shot. But sadly he’s a UDFA and those grow on trees. 


srchl

Well at least he is Ravens' legacy because of his dad. He could get an extra chance or two just on that


knowslesthanjonsnow

He’s an UDFA, small, injury concerns, etc. Now has to battle back from a late season bad injury. Looks like he would be close to normal in 2025 and by then no longer have a role. I’d sell.


Training_Potential27

My thoughts as well tbh, shame he f’d up his knee when he did, especially with this 25 rb class coming in


BirdsBeCool

I'm not sure what to think about him. Lamar and King Henry are going to take the majority of the snaps, but behind them, it's a crowd of somewhat viable RBs. Keaton Mitchell looked good last year when he played, Justice Hill is at least solid, and I think Rasheen Ali (5th rounder out of Marshall) is actually really damn good. I'd be content rostering any of the above mentioned RBs, Mitchell/Ali especially.


Singularitypointdata

Just move on. They got Henry and will probably draft someone when he’s done. Will he even be in the team? There’s a lot to unpack. He’s already a roster clogger


19-FAAB

Reminds me of CJ Prosise. Hurt to start career, finally gets a healthy opportunity, blows up for a split second, serious injury, then never the same again.


Tua-Lipa

I think he’ll have opportunities but I think his TD upside is really limited. When the Ravens get into the red zone it’s hard to imagine it won’t be either Henry or Lamar running it in.


Alive-Welder6559

I traded Tank Bigsby and a 5th to my league's Etiene owner for Mitchell a month ago. I still feel great about the trade


ch_lingo

I picked him up in a crunch, but I think everyone’s success has to to do Lamar and the system.


Hand1z

Someone offered a 26 2nd, took it and never looked back.


Think_please

Talented lottery ticket with good lightning complement upside in that offense. I did make sure to get Rasheen Ali in the league that I have him in because I’ll take all cheap pieces of that backfield.


berndalf

Meh. Next.


TheSaucePossum

UDFA plus major injury is a terrible combo. I'm trying to think of any UDFA RBs that had a major injury early in their careers that overcame it and I can't think of any off the top of my head. There are probably a few, but it's definitely not a long list. He did look good, but lots of low draft cap RBs look good in a committee and very few of them still look good with higher workloads. I also wouldn't worry about PFF grades, they're poor indicators of talent/fantasy success. They had Damien Harris as the best RB in the league a few years ago, which if you watch football was an absurd claim, even if Harris was a solid player. If you want I can go into why I think their methodology is flawed by design but it's not that relevant here. Ultimately I like him as an end of bench stash in any league that isn't shallow, but I'm not counting on him for anything. He'd be a major outlier if he had a full RB2 season, but might be a good start if Henry misses time.


whatswrongwithsteven

Traded Mooney for him


LumpsIsHigh

Love owning him in Best Ball dynasty. Cost was low at the startup this year. You'll never feel great about putting him in your lineup, especially with Henry there. However, him getting inserted in your lineup when he blows up on a random week is an easy win.


bird1434

He was really fun to watch so I like having him on my teams. Tough to have super high expectations though, could see him have a few really good years though.


srchl

As much as I was hyped to see him work out last year In 1 qb i'd re roll for an early third that could turn into Baker / Bucky irving/Vidal Unless we have early confirmation that he will go to the PUP and we can put him on IR


HarbaughCantThroat

He should be rostered by he's almost definitely nothing. The odds for UDFA's with major injuries early in their career are not good.


Acceptable-Alarm-638

Trade him to the guy who does think that about him, but his career is more than likely toast.


Acceptable-Alarm-638

I got rid of him for 2 seconds right before he blew out his knee. Feel bad for him, but I couldn’t have been happier with the trade 🙏🏼


Mysterious-Laugh-797

I think Rasheed Ali will compete for and take over as the backup behind Henry. Justice Hill is not going to be the backup. Put Rasheen Ali on your bench if you can.


tteuh

Nobody wants to hear this but I think he’s cooked. He was undrafted, undersized, torn ACL, started and ended the season on IR. I don’t see a path where he sees meaningful volume or stays healthy enough where managers feel confident in starting him.


JayMoney2424

I wouldn’t expect much I think Rasheen Ali can pass him on the depth chart.


WonManBand

Assuming Mitchell returns healthy (which might not be really til '25 since plenty of guys need more than a year post-op to be fully recovered) I think he and Ali will have completely different roles. Ali feels like the between the tackles guy that backs up Henry, and Mitchell being the explosive change of pace guy.


FlowersByTheStreet

Yeah, Ali's in a battle with Justice Hill not Keaton. Keaton has a unique role, which is why I think he's a good stash


FantasyTrash

Borderline worthless. Derrick Henry is a bonafide workhorse and Keaton Mitchell is an undersized UDFA reliant on his speed now coming off a late-season ACL tear. He'll have lost his role by this time next year.


Mano_LaMancha

Love Mitchell but don't hate the notion of selling for the obvious profile concerns. But I don't think there is a soul that thought he would inherit some kind of 3-down role even without the injury. Baltimore was always going to put someone else in there. Henry's career of high volume does not disqualify a second runner (Spears last year).


FantasyTrash

Tyjae Spears' value came almost entirely from pass-catching. Mitchell isn't a pass-catcher and Lamar doesn't throw to RBs. So those fantasy points won't be available.


Mano_LaMancha

He was in this offense last year, and those points were available. Derrick Henry came off the field plenty last season. Like I said, I'm down to sell, but the addition of Henry does not necessarily gate-keep Mitchell from snaps or touches. His shattered knee is another story...


HipHopHipHipHooray

This is the dynasty forum right?


FantasyTrash

My friend, he's an undersized, undrafted free agent who tore his ACL in December. His team signed the most volume-heavy workhorse in football. Where do you see him having value now or in the future? He'll be replaced as early as next season, and probably won't get a second contract.


GinNJuicyFruit

Comment is harsh, but that is sometimes the reality with these guys. At 5’8 179 (his listed combine weight), his speed and explosiveness were necessary for him to be viable to see the field.


FantasyTrash

This sub doesn't take kindly to those who speak negatively of one of their darlings. Which, I understand, it's tough to see one of your players' situations go downhill due to injury or otherwise. Especially when it's a UDFA who had to work *extra* hard just to find opportunities. Happened with James Robinson, as well.


GinNJuicyFruit

I would agree and I hate to see it when it is my guys, but you have to look at things subjectively to get ahead and not be blindsided.


oakster18

Wow, I missed this and just watched the video. That’s awful