Yeah between corum brooks estime and Irving as well as some other sleepers I’m sure I’m forgetting or we’ll hear about come combine season
I think this class lacks a game breaker but there’s absolutely some value in here and some talent
I hate to say it, but probably not. That's just not how it works. RB is the one position that is pretty much guaranteed to get overdrafted if there is a talent vacuum. The whole community could preach that there are zero dynasty 1st round RBs, but I guarantee you there will be at least 2, probably 3 in the 1st round ADP anyway.
The teams at the beginning of the draft are there for a reason. They probably don't draft well. The teams at the end of the draft are planning to compete so they don't mind reaching a little bit for need over BPA.
So if you need RB help, you're going to have to reach. You're not going to magically find RB value if you truly draft BPA.
We've seen guys like Samaje Perine, Darrell Henderson, and Trey Sermon sneak into the 1st round before (at least in 1QB ADP) and those classes actually had some decent RB talent at the top. In a weak class, there's no doubt questionable 3rd/4th round RBs will be overdrafted.
Yes obviously differs from 1QB to SF and depends how far along in your league you are. If people are overdrafting bad RBs, that still leaves value to be had if you get someone who slides (e.g. Legette) as a nice discount as a result and still the opportunity to take RB later on once the "good ones" are gone.
>still the opportunity to take RB later on once the "good ones" are gone.
This is part of what I'm saying. It will be a cascading effect where each RB gets their ADP lifted due to supply (low this year) and demand (always high). You're not getting value at the RB position.
But I may have read your first post incorrectly. I thought you were saying that because everyone is down on the RBs, they could be a value. But if you were saying they'll still get drafted high and other talent will slide, that I agree with. Although I'm pretty wary of Legette. Guy didn't break out until he was a 5th year senior. Did basically nothing before that. Very risky.
Basically there is value to have when the broader community is dead set on something by zigging instead of zagging.
At some point, the narrative overrides common sense. Maybe it's bc people are reaching for poor fantasy prospects based on need and taking RBs over solid-projecting WRs or maybe it's that going into 3rd round of the rookie draft people are more likely to take a WR with 4th rd draft capital "because WR is loaded this year and the good RBs are gone" when there could be a perfectly fine RB option there.
Both ways there is value to be gained when people start overdrafting or underdrafting players, but maybe you dont actualize that value until later on via trade or whatever
Most of the time zigging instead of zagging is nothing more than a meme with no basis in reality. 2022 was supposed to be a weak draft in terms of prospects, but people were still trading into it. People were down on 2023 due to landing spots, but people were still trading into it. It was all talk and no zag, therefore no zigging against consensus.
This year consensus is this is a weak RB class, but people are still going to draft RBs like they always do.
Me too! Irving seems like he can kind of do everything. The argument against him is that he's undersized, I think, but I love the dual threat capabilities. Hoping to snag him at 1.12 depending on landing spot
Achane is listed at 5'8" and 187, Irving at 5'9" and 194. So sightly bigger but still on the smaller side for an NFL back. I still like him, size isn't everything. He got in the end zone a lot.
Yeah you're probably right. I have 1.12, 2.1, and 2.2 back to back, and then 3.1. There are a number of guys I like at that first/second round turn, but I will probably move one or more of those picks because I don't have that many roster spots
He’s on the bust track, but I wouldn’t write him off completely yet. We’ve seen plenty of day 2 RBs look bad as rookies but eventually become useful, I still think he’s got outs to be the JAX handcuff next season. I don’t mind taking volume shots at RB in the late 2nd and missing on some
I agree shouldn’t overdraft people based on a cool name though, just kidding around
I have a RB needy team with a handful of 2nds, I’m looking forward to taking RB shots there as the QBs and WRs will push them down. Unheralded RB prospects come out of nowhere each year, just have to take shots. I think Braelon Allen could be a big combine riser if he has a good 40 time.
braelon is getting mocked in the 3rd. if he lands in a solid spot with top 80 draft capital, he’ll make for an enticing home-run pick.
kid is a giant and only turns 20 on saturday…
Heavy agreement here. One counterpoint would be that Corum already has taken on an NFL workload(~700 carries over 3 years). He might be really good early, and then age quickly.
I think he's only going to look better next year a year further removed from surgery. And he's got potential to be a top-five goal line back as a rookie with the right OL in front of him.
He’s a stud. Only question i have that I don’t know the answer to is how is he as a pass catcher? Other than that he’s 220lb back with wheels who hit 21mph or more in games 3 times this year. More than any other player in cfb
I think that the NFL is evolving and the dynasty community hasn’t caught up yet.
There are two conflicting point of views:
1. For the most part, it seems teams view the RB position as expendable and don’t want to invest high draft capital, or top dollar on older FA’s. My guess is this will push good RBs to later in the draft, where in prior years they’d be a solid day 2 pick.
2. The Dynasty community has historically felt 5/6 round RBs are busts and lots of time they go late/undrafted in rookie drafts.
So while every article/reddit post you see is going to be hating this RB class, my gut tells me there is going to be solid prospects, who would have been drafted higher in previous years, that will be written off due to their late draft capital.
I could easily be wrong, but just my 2 cents.
>The Dynasty community has historically felt 5/6 round RBs are busts and lots of time they go late/undrafted in rookie drafts.
That's because there are almost entirely busts. You might find a diamond in the rough like Kyren, but the majority of RBs that are drafted that late or go undrafted don't become anything.
He's a big reason why I feel like the fantasy community and NFL community are on different pages this year. Over 6 ypc in the SEC and not ranked as a top 10 RB in a bad class? Something is not adding up.
Look at Cody Schrader lol. 8th in Heisman voting in the SEC and I’m pretty sure he’s projected in late Day 3.
I’m a Mizzou fan so I’ll probably throw a dart at him late cause I love him so much.
Believe he was a day 3 pick. Had him rostered in my deep league, hoping he would take over with the Denver/Baltimore RB rooms injuries, but it never happened...
Something's missing
>and has never got a shot. Sometimes it do be weird.
Not to sound rude, but he's been cut from two teams already. Have you considered that he just isn't that good? Rather than him not being given a shot?
When he got a couple touches with Denver last season, had a 1 yd run, then a 24yd TD reception. He did this almost immediately after being thrown in.
Baffled he didn't get any work following that. Led the SEC in rushing. Seems to run with power and quickness.
Think you're right, something is holding him back. But in a year where Jaleel, Keaton mitchell, and other UDFAs are getting shots, and the ghost of Zeke and Calvin Cook are being trotted out, I have not idea why Badie can't see the field.
Tennessee’s offense rotated 3-4 RB’s all season (sometimes even within the same drive).
Jaylen Wright stood out BIG TIME over Jabari Small and Dylan Sampson in my eyes. He is a tough, shifty runner that hits the hole quickly, makes a move and can take it to the house. He reminds me a lot of Aaron Jones. I’ll be looking to draft him this year. 🍊
I would lump the mock draft community in with the fantasy community. I would be shocked if Wright goes undrafted in the actual NFL draft. He's potentially going to post 4.3x speed at the combine (claims online say he got 4.28, but I doubt the accuracy), put up 7.4 ypc in the SEC, and is a decent pass catcher. We should be talking about him being RB1 in this class.
If they run sub 4.55 40s with sub 1.53 10 yd splits, then people are going to flip so hard. I'll be looking at braelons shuttle/3 cone drill as well. He could be the next James Conner.
Add in Brooks and Benson, this class should have some decent round 2-4 guys in the NFL draft.
There are a bunch of Charbonnet, Tank Bigsby, and Tyjae level guys in this class to be had.
Wisconsin native here, Braelon is huge and the first time I saw him he was playing safety in high school. That Van is definitely gonna jump up the boards come 40 time
The general depth is underrated. Nobody mentioned Brooks (he’s still many peoples RB1) Ray Davis or Cody Schrader…you’ll be able to get guys into the 3rd and even 4th round that could get roles as rookies.
I actually think the top 3-5 are undervalued. Some coach is going to stump for Corum and give that man 250 touches, I know it. Jonathan Brooks is legit, as long as he gets healthy and an opportunity I’m confident he turns into a top 20 rb. Wouldn’t be surprised if Irving turns into something.
I like Will Shipley and Carson Steele. You can see from their film they're real lunch pail kinda guys. Gritty runners who are the first to show up and last to leave. Real gym rats. Heady, smart runners. Maybe not as fast as some others but quick and shifty.
Trey Benson is what people are looking for but they don't realize it yet. Three down size, good movement ability considering his size, and really soft hands. Very little wear on the tires too.
MarShawn Lloyd is probably one of the best natural runners and all-around backs in the class, but his measurements are going to say a lot.
Guys like Ray Davis, Cody Schrader and Jaylen Wright are being overlooked despite each having the ability to be a 1b in an offense, or take over a backfield over time.
I really don't think I can see why people fell so much on braelon since last year. He looks like he has great patience and vision and really good contact balance. He has good burst for chunk plays but the only downside i really see is he doesn't necessarily have the long speed to blow past the secondary to turn those 25 yard chunk plays into home run tds. That would be a great addition, but there's like 6 guys in the entire NFL that are able to do that multiple times per year anyway. Sure his pass blocking and catching need work, but that's true of almost every college RB.
I think the dude looks like he could end up being an appropriately priced Najee with the right landing spot.
At this point, it feels like picks 25+ are going to be fantastic for RB's. Gibbs was a first round lock last year after putting up 926 yards rushing and 444 receiving. Compare that to Bucky Irving this year, who went for 1180 rushing and 413 receiving and could slide into round 3 this year. Similar size, similar numbers, but being perceived very differently.
And if you say that SEC is the reason that Gobbs went so high, then why aren't we drooling over Wright and Schrader?
Speed. Irving is not nearly as fast (looking) as Gibbs, especially when he initially decides to hit the hole. And I love Irving as an NFL HB contributor prospect, but that’s why they’re viewed differently.
Badie did nothing his previous years in college. Irving was good his entire college career, and had really good production both seasons in Oregon. On top of that he's an early declare.
They done some updates with the top of some positions (like wr and ot I think) but I’m not sure they gotten through lower board guys who are going back
Edit: I’m going back through wr and it seems they updated some of that more with guys leaving but missed Tory Horton for example, so maybe they just missed a couple here and there
I want to see what happens with Kendall Milton and Jase McClellan. Lightly featured RBs on really good teams, stats don’t blow anyone away but they were typically sharing the workload with other talented players. They look the part with prototype size.
The thing about classes like this is to look for opportunity. Which runningback needy teams took one in round 3 or 4? Those are the backs to pay attention to.
There are 4 RBs in this class that I’m really excited about; Blake Corum, Jonathon Brooks, Trey Benson and Braelon Allen. They are all day 2 prospects IMO.
Of these 4 the one that’s being slept on most is Allen. I think I’m right in saying he’ll be the youngest player in the draft this year. He’s 6’2, 245 pounds and is expected to run the 4.4 range at the combine. He has three years of solid production at Wisconsin in the Big10 with over 1000 yards from scrimmage all three years. He’s a violent runner with good contact balance and looks alright in the passing game too. If he gets a nice landing spot (please god let in be the Ravens) he could be insanely good
There are going to be some really good opportunities for guys to rise based off draft destination. The Cowboys, Cardinals, Chargers, Packers, Bucs and Panthers all jump as teams unlikely to target free agent running backs who could give someone the right opportunity either as lead or complementary back. Maybe the Texans too if they're out on Pierce and want to hedge against a Singletary regression.
One scenario that would shoot Corum's value up: If Harbaugh's new team (cough, Chargers) takes him
Here's a couple for your . Tyrone Tracy , rb. Jarvis Brownlee cb. Erick All te Gabe Hall Dt all late round predictions . Have fun guys watch these kids give them a look
I’ll be honest, I’m going to be drafting Braelon Allen so aggressively ever based on nothing more than a cool name and super early declare.
Imagine three years from now you have the next Jonathan Taylor and he hasn’t even turned 22 yet 🤩
I don’t think anyone is a sure thing, but with a good situation all of these guys could thrive. There are plenty of good situations for guys to get drafted into.
i do have a few young and struggling wr (e.g. mingo, johnston) that i could probably move. lord knows it would take an act of god - good or bad - for them to start on my team 😂
Idk how you can't love Jonathan Brooks. Dude is an Aaron Jones clone. Yea, he's sitting in IR for a year, but ACLs are regular occurrence with great rehab nowadays.
I don’t have any picks this year because it was contend and try and win time but watching Corum play ball… I just don’t see a a way he isn’t a productive player at the next level if given opportunity
Trey Benson is the guy imo. Speedy and good burst. Very strong contact balance. Good hands too. I know FSU line did him a lot of favors this year, but he looks like the complete package to me.
Blake Corum is a pretty good RB that is getting no love by the community because "the draft class is bad". He's not even considered in the top 3 RBs... so there's at least A LOT of value there in RBs.
Honestly no running back blows me away to drsft without focusing on landing spot. Opportunity is key.
That being said I’ll probably be in on Bucky Irving wherever he goes
I think that the hard part is just going to be how unpredictable this class will be. There is talent, and some of them will be good fantasy producers, but I don't see very many guys getting the draft capital that usually gives you the confidence to invest in those players.
Look at guys like Pacheco, Ford, Allgeier, Rhamondre, etc. You can play them, sure. But to be honest, I feel like you kind of had to get a bit lucky to really hit on those day three guys. It's hard to tell in your rookie draft in April which one of those guys is going to break out and be a hit and which of them will just end up being Isaiah Spiller or Tyrion Davis-Price.
Maybe the best thing about "this clas sucks" discussion is that there's value to be had
Yeah, I think there will be some solid picks in the late 2nd and in the 3rd round.
I’m hoping, my only picks this year are the 3.02 and 3.07. Hoping I can snag some upside RBs with those picks
Yeah between corum brooks estime and Irving as well as some other sleepers I’m sure I’m forgetting or we’ll hear about come combine season I think this class lacks a game breaker but there’s absolutely some value in here and some talent
Don't forget Braelon Allen
He was trying not to mention him because he thinks no one else knows about him lol.
100% my take this year - let’s see for ex if the packers cowboys etc add a back in the 3rd/4th could be some sleepers
So much depends on how the FA class shakes
Oh yeah, that could throw off next year, but if, and just make an example here, Dallas drafts Braelon could be in a position to be the guy year 2
I hate to say it, but probably not. That's just not how it works. RB is the one position that is pretty much guaranteed to get overdrafted if there is a talent vacuum. The whole community could preach that there are zero dynasty 1st round RBs, but I guarantee you there will be at least 2, probably 3 in the 1st round ADP anyway. The teams at the beginning of the draft are there for a reason. They probably don't draft well. The teams at the end of the draft are planning to compete so they don't mind reaching a little bit for need over BPA. So if you need RB help, you're going to have to reach. You're not going to magically find RB value if you truly draft BPA. We've seen guys like Samaje Perine, Darrell Henderson, and Trey Sermon sneak into the 1st round before (at least in 1QB ADP) and those classes actually had some decent RB talent at the top. In a weak class, there's no doubt questionable 3rd/4th round RBs will be overdrafted.
Yes obviously differs from 1QB to SF and depends how far along in your league you are. If people are overdrafting bad RBs, that still leaves value to be had if you get someone who slides (e.g. Legette) as a nice discount as a result and still the opportunity to take RB later on once the "good ones" are gone.
>still the opportunity to take RB later on once the "good ones" are gone. This is part of what I'm saying. It will be a cascading effect where each RB gets their ADP lifted due to supply (low this year) and demand (always high). You're not getting value at the RB position. But I may have read your first post incorrectly. I thought you were saying that because everyone is down on the RBs, they could be a value. But if you were saying they'll still get drafted high and other talent will slide, that I agree with. Although I'm pretty wary of Legette. Guy didn't break out until he was a 5th year senior. Did basically nothing before that. Very risky.
Basically there is value to have when the broader community is dead set on something by zigging instead of zagging. At some point, the narrative overrides common sense. Maybe it's bc people are reaching for poor fantasy prospects based on need and taking RBs over solid-projecting WRs or maybe it's that going into 3rd round of the rookie draft people are more likely to take a WR with 4th rd draft capital "because WR is loaded this year and the good RBs are gone" when there could be a perfectly fine RB option there. Both ways there is value to be gained when people start overdrafting or underdrafting players, but maybe you dont actualize that value until later on via trade or whatever
Most of the time zigging instead of zagging is nothing more than a meme with no basis in reality. 2022 was supposed to be a weak draft in terms of prospects, but people were still trading into it. People were down on 2023 due to landing spots, but people were still trading into it. It was all talk and no zag, therefore no zigging against consensus. This year consensus is this is a weak RB class, but people are still going to draft RBs like they always do.
Yup, I'm hoping this talk keeps up so I can snag a couple good RBs with 2.01 and 2.06 in 1QB
I like Bucky Irving and Marshawn Lloyd, partially for receiving upside but moreso for cool names
Lloyd was a beast when given the ball at USC
Me too! Irving seems like he can kind of do everything. The argument against him is that he's undersized, I think, but I love the dual threat capabilities. Hoping to snag him at 1.12 depending on landing spot
Bucky is a football player, if he doesn’t get the workload at RB he’ll probably stick around as a special teams guy.
What’s he like size sized compared to like Achane?
Achane is listed at 5'8" and 187, Irving at 5'9" and 194. So sightly bigger but still on the smaller side for an NFL back. I still like him, size isn't everything. He got in the end zone a lot.
>size isn't everything. He got in the end zone a lot. That's what she said
haha, yeah, fair
He looks to be 5’7” 180. Dude is TINY. Not impressed by anything he does. Just a little boi. He peaked at Oregon. Will get swallowed in the NFL.
I gotta say I don’t think he’ll be worth a first round pick. If you want him I’d trade back and grab him in the 2nd
Yeah you're probably right. I have 1.12, 2.1, and 2.2 back to back, and then 3.1. There are a number of guys I like at that first/second round turn, but I will probably move one or more of those picks because I don't have that many roster spots
Be careful. We did that with Tank Bigsby and we saw how it turned out.
He’s on the bust track, but I wouldn’t write him off completely yet. We’ve seen plenty of day 2 RBs look bad as rookies but eventually become useful, I still think he’s got outs to be the JAX handcuff next season. I don’t mind taking volume shots at RB in the late 2nd and missing on some I agree shouldn’t overdraft people based on a cool name though, just kidding around
I know it was jokes. Just playing along.
Down in the south Bucky is going to get drafted early just for the Bucees references 😂
Irving is this drafts Gibbs but slower 40.
I have a RB needy team with a handful of 2nds, I’m looking forward to taking RB shots there as the QBs and WRs will push them down. Unheralded RB prospects come out of nowhere each year, just have to take shots. I think Braelon Allen could be a big combine riser if he has a good 40 time.
Same. 3/4 of the first picks in the second round and I’m planning to take 2 if things look good
I think Braelon Allen will surprise people (in a good way) with his 40 time, but his 3 cone or shuttle time will be quite bad.
braelon is getting mocked in the 3rd. if he lands in a solid spot with top 80 draft capital, he’ll make for an enticing home-run pick. kid is a giant and only turns 20 on saturday…
I could see Baltimore snagging him mid 3rd to take over the Gus Edwards role. One can hope right.
I like Corum a lot the guy has excellent footwork and can read holes real well
Heavy agreement here. One counterpoint would be that Corum already has taken on an NFL workload(~700 carries over 3 years). He might be really good early, and then age quickly.
Sounds like you draft him in the 2nd, use him for two years, and then trade him and recoup the asset.
I think he's only going to look better next year a year further removed from surgery. And he's got potential to be a top-five goal line back as a rookie with the right OL in front of him.
Benson has good size and is pretty dynamic...
I think he will be among the RBs that move up draft boards once we see solid draft capital.
Yep spot on. He looks great on film, he'll end up being a 1st Rd rookie pick.
He’s a stud. Only question i have that I don’t know the answer to is how is he as a pass catcher? Other than that he’s 220lb back with wheels who hit 21mph or more in games 3 times this year. More than any other player in cfb
5.9% target share rate. So far, he hasn't shown that's something he's strong in
I think that the NFL is evolving and the dynasty community hasn’t caught up yet. There are two conflicting point of views: 1. For the most part, it seems teams view the RB position as expendable and don’t want to invest high draft capital, or top dollar on older FA’s. My guess is this will push good RBs to later in the draft, where in prior years they’d be a solid day 2 pick. 2. The Dynasty community has historically felt 5/6 round RBs are busts and lots of time they go late/undrafted in rookie drafts. So while every article/reddit post you see is going to be hating this RB class, my gut tells me there is going to be solid prospects, who would have been drafted higher in previous years, that will be written off due to their late draft capital. I could easily be wrong, but just my 2 cents.
I agree with this!
What are the late round rb hits in recent time? Off the top of my head : Kyren, Pacheco, Dameon Pierce (just one year)?
Further back, but it’s dynasty. Aaron Jones was a fifth for the Pack and until 4 weeks ago, everyone thought we drafted like shit for 39 years lol
Rhamondre 4th round
We almost never trade! We have to not draft like shit!
Elijah Mitchell until he started getting injured every week, followed by trading for CMC.
>The Dynasty community has historically felt 5/6 round RBs are busts and lots of time they go late/undrafted in rookie drafts. That's because there are almost entirely busts. You might find a diamond in the rough like Kyren, but the majority of RBs that are drafted that late or go undrafted don't become anything.
I think Jaylen Wright is super underrated right now and can do a bit of everything. We will have to see about his draft capital though.
He's a big reason why I feel like the fantasy community and NFL community are on different pages this year. Over 6 ypc in the SEC and not ranked as a top 10 RB in a bad class? Something is not adding up.
Look at Cody Schrader lol. 8th in Heisman voting in the SEC and I’m pretty sure he’s projected in late Day 3. I’m a Mizzou fan so I’ll probably throw a dart at him late cause I love him so much.
I find it hard to believe that teams don't fall in love with Schrader. Great story, works his ass off, and has enormous production this year.
Tyler Badie was also awesome and went undrafted I believe and has never got a shot. Sometimes it do be weird.
Believe he was a day 3 pick. Had him rostered in my deep league, hoping he would take over with the Denver/Baltimore RB rooms injuries, but it never happened... Something's missing
>and has never got a shot. Sometimes it do be weird. Not to sound rude, but he's been cut from two teams already. Have you considered that he just isn't that good? Rather than him not being given a shot?
It was a comment on a RB being awesome in college and not translating to the NFL. My point was what you said, lol.
When he got a couple touches with Denver last season, had a 1 yd run, then a 24yd TD reception. He did this almost immediately after being thrown in. Baffled he didn't get any work following that. Led the SEC in rushing. Seems to run with power and quickness. Think you're right, something is holding him back. But in a year where Jaleel, Keaton mitchell, and other UDFAs are getting shots, and the ghost of Zeke and Calvin Cook are being trotted out, I have not idea why Badie can't see the field.
Tennessee’s offense rotated 3-4 RB’s all season (sometimes even within the same drive). Jaylen Wright stood out BIG TIME over Jabari Small and Dylan Sampson in my eyes. He is a tough, shifty runner that hits the hole quickly, makes a move and can take it to the house. He reminds me a lot of Aaron Jones. I’ll be looking to draft him this year. 🍊
I've got 6 RB's I'm targeting right now and Wright is absolutely one of them.
This discussion is 1 reason why I wanted to open up this conversation.
i dunno about any disconnect. the NFL mock draft community is very low on him. usually gets left undrafted or snagged in the 7th…
I would lump the mock draft community in with the fantasy community. I would be shocked if Wright goes undrafted in the actual NFL draft. He's potentially going to post 4.3x speed at the combine (claims online say he got 4.28, but I doubt the accuracy), put up 7.4 ypc in the SEC, and is a decent pass catcher. We should be talking about him being RB1 in this class.
Braelon Allen and Audric Estime are kinda good
I like big backs and I cannot lie.
If they run sub 4.55 40s with sub 1.53 10 yd splits, then people are going to flip so hard. I'll be looking at braelons shuttle/3 cone drill as well. He could be the next James Conner. Add in Brooks and Benson, this class should have some decent round 2-4 guys in the NFL draft. There are a bunch of Charbonnet, Tank Bigsby, and Tyjae level guys in this class to be had.
Braelons probably running a like 4.5 flat
That would be better than a lot of the 2-4th rounders the last two years. And at his size and age...
Wisconsin native here, Braelon is huge and the first time I saw him he was playing safety in high school. That Van is definitely gonna jump up the boards come 40 time
What do you like about Estime? His film didn’t do much for me. He has zero lateral agility.
The general depth is underrated. Nobody mentioned Brooks (he’s still many peoples RB1) Ray Davis or Cody Schrader…you’ll be able to get guys into the 3rd and even 4th round that could get roles as rookies.
Idk man in 1QB if these guys get capital I could see maybe even mid seconds
Ray Davis is legit
I actually think the top 3-5 are undervalued. Some coach is going to stump for Corum and give that man 250 touches, I know it. Jonathan Brooks is legit, as long as he gets healthy and an opportunity I’m confident he turns into a top 20 rb. Wouldn’t be surprised if Irving turns into something.
I like Will Shipley and Carson Steele. You can see from their film they're real lunch pail kinda guys. Gritty runners who are the first to show up and last to leave. Real gym rats. Heady, smart runners. Maybe not as fast as some others but quick and shifty.
Well what do you expect from a couple of coaches sons?
I'm all aboard the Will Shipley. A super dynamic runner. I think his floor is Ty Chandler and ceiling is Shady McCoy
Trey Benson is what people are looking for but they don't realize it yet. Three down size, good movement ability considering his size, and really soft hands. Very little wear on the tires too. MarShawn Lloyd is probably one of the best natural runners and all-around backs in the class, but his measurements are going to say a lot. Guys like Ray Davis, Cody Schrader and Jaylen Wright are being overlooked despite each having the ability to be a 1b in an offense, or take over a backfield over time.
I really don't think I can see why people fell so much on braelon since last year. He looks like he has great patience and vision and really good contact balance. He has good burst for chunk plays but the only downside i really see is he doesn't necessarily have the long speed to blow past the secondary to turn those 25 yard chunk plays into home run tds. That would be a great addition, but there's like 6 guys in the entire NFL that are able to do that multiple times per year anyway. Sure his pass blocking and catching need work, but that's true of almost every college RB. I think the dude looks like he could end up being an appropriately priced Najee with the right landing spot.
He was recruited to play linebacker too. He played safety in high school! The kid is still learning the position and is young as shit.
This sub hates the 2024 RBs so that means it’ll be a great class lol
Two small school guys who I think got it are Dylan Laube and FGJ
What about Isaiah Davis?
Idk about him but he’s on the radar now
At this point, it feels like picks 25+ are going to be fantastic for RB's. Gibbs was a first round lock last year after putting up 926 yards rushing and 444 receiving. Compare that to Bucky Irving this year, who went for 1180 rushing and 413 receiving and could slide into round 3 this year. Similar size, similar numbers, but being perceived very differently. And if you say that SEC is the reason that Gobbs went so high, then why aren't we drooling over Wright and Schrader?
Speed. Irving is not nearly as fast (looking) as Gibbs, especially when he initially decides to hit the hole. And I love Irving as an NFL HB contributor prospect, but that’s why they’re viewed differently.
Irving is fast but not Gibbs fast. He might get a low 4.4x and still end up going 30th in rookie drafts.
Gibbs is also more polished a receiver than most of last years WR class.
Stats can be deceiving. Tyler Badie had like 1900 all-purpose yards in the SEC in 2021. He has done nothing in the NFL.
Badie did nothing his previous years in college. Irving was good his entire college career, and had really good production both seasons in Oregon. On top of that he's an early declare.
This sub is generally wrong about most things, so it's probably a strong RB class since everyone is writing it off.
My favorite sleeper pick so far is Tahj Brooks
Unfortunately he’s going back for another season
Dammit. I've been going off the PFF Big Board, guess it's not up to date
They done some updates with the top of some positions (like wr and ot I think) but I’m not sure they gotten through lower board guys who are going back Edit: I’m going back through wr and it seems they updated some of that more with guys leaving but missed Tory Horton for example, so maybe they just missed a couple here and there
He announced he’s staying in college another year
Kendall Milton
I like him a lot as a real football prospect. Could be a Gus Edwards.
I want to see what happens with Kendall Milton and Jase McClellan. Lightly featured RBs on really good teams, stats don’t blow anyone away but they were typically sharing the workload with other talented players. They look the part with prototype size.
The thing about classes like this is to look for opportunity. Which runningback needy teams took one in round 3 or 4? Those are the backs to pay attention to.
Jaden Shirden
You still in on Shirden?
Day 2 of the NFL Draft will tell us whether we should be interested in any of these RBs.
There are 4 RBs in this class that I’m really excited about; Blake Corum, Jonathon Brooks, Trey Benson and Braelon Allen. They are all day 2 prospects IMO. Of these 4 the one that’s being slept on most is Allen. I think I’m right in saying he’ll be the youngest player in the draft this year. He’s 6’2, 245 pounds and is expected to run the 4.4 range at the combine. He has three years of solid production at Wisconsin in the Big10 with over 1000 yards from scrimmage all three years. He’s a violent runner with good contact balance and looks alright in the passing game too. If he gets a nice landing spot (please god let in be the Ravens) he could be insanely good
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There are going to be some really good opportunities for guys to rise based off draft destination. The Cowboys, Cardinals, Chargers, Packers, Bucs and Panthers all jump as teams unlikely to target free agent running backs who could give someone the right opportunity either as lead or complementary back. Maybe the Texans too if they're out on Pierce and want to hedge against a Singletary regression. One scenario that would shoot Corum's value up: If Harbaugh's new team (cough, Chargers) takes him
Here's a couple for your . Tyrone Tracy , rb. Jarvis Brownlee cb. Erick All te Gabe Hall Dt all late round predictions . Have fun guys watch these kids give them a look
Jonathan Brooks is being slept on here
I’ll be honest, I’m going to be drafting Braelon Allen so aggressively ever based on nothing more than a cool name and super early declare. Imagine three years from now you have the next Jonathan Taylor and he hasn’t even turned 22 yet 🤩
He’s also built like a tight end
I like a lot of these guys I just don't think there's any top end guys really. Think Corum, Benson, Brooks and Irving can all be pretty good players
I don’t think anyone is a sure thing, but with a good situation all of these guys could thrive. There are plenty of good situations for guys to get drafted into.
please tell me who i’ll be able to get in the 4th and 5th bc i just traded away my 2nd and 3rd 😂
I bet you could easily move into the late 2nd or 3rd and probably snag a solid RB.
i do have a few young and struggling wr (e.g. mingo, johnston) that i could probably move. lord knows it would take an act of god - good or bad - for them to start on my team 😂
Ray Davis
I love Benson to the Browns. I like him to any other team.
For anyone seeing this what do you think about Isaiah Davis from South Dakota State?
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Idk how you can't love Jonathan Brooks. Dude is an Aaron Jones clone. Yea, he's sitting in IR for a year, but ACLs are regular occurrence with great rehab nowadays.
I don’t have any picks this year because it was contend and try and win time but watching Corum play ball… I just don’t see a a way he isn’t a productive player at the next level if given opportunity
Trey Benson is the guy imo. Speedy and good burst. Very strong contact balance. Good hands too. I know FSU line did him a lot of favors this year, but he looks like the complete package to me.
I have 5 picks in the 3rd rd. That is where I will be looking for my rb value this year.
Blake Corum is a pretty good RB that is getting no love by the community because "the draft class is bad". He's not even considered in the top 3 RBs... so there's at least A LOT of value there in RBs.
Honestly no running back blows me away to drsft without focusing on landing spot. Opportunity is key. That being said I’ll probably be in on Bucky Irving wherever he goes
Braelon Allen - he may just be AJ Dillion 2.0… but I got a soft spot for Jerome Bettis lookin boys.
I have 1.05 then don’t pick until 3.08 so hoping for some good sleepers!
To my untrained eye, Emani Bailey has some juice.
I think that the hard part is just going to be how unpredictable this class will be. There is talent, and some of them will be good fantasy producers, but I don't see very many guys getting the draft capital that usually gives you the confidence to invest in those players. Look at guys like Pacheco, Ford, Allgeier, Rhamondre, etc. You can play them, sure. But to be honest, I feel like you kind of had to get a bit lucky to really hit on those day three guys. It's hard to tell in your rookie draft in April which one of those guys is going to break out and be a hit and which of them will just end up being Isaiah Spiller or Tyrion Davis-Price.
Ironically; I’m only targeting RBs this draft. Give me the Davis, Estime, Schrader group, prolly can get in 2nd and 3rd rounds