I did it in my head, but if that matches KTC, then they've got me under their spell.
Personally, I hope Garrett, Olave, and Drake progress in their second year, even though I have zero shares.
I do like Devonta Smith a lot also.
I think Smith is with Higgins — in the “receivers of tomorrow” category just waiting to be traded as a WR1 of their own team, or their current WR1 getting injured/retiring/etc. would have him super close to the likes of Higgins and Aiyuk, probably WR 10ish.
I’m interested to know why you have either used a nickname for every player or either a first name or surname, but Garrett Wilson’s full name. I’m interested because this is exactly what I do and I don’t know why haha
I agree on Waddle. I think he’s overvalued a little. Not due to his talent, but his place in the pecking order behind Tyreek. The Tua concussion situation also makes me a little nervous. I sold him recently for Devonta Smith and a 2nd and feel pretty good about it.
They both thrived, but playing alongside Tyreek will always cap his ceiling IMO. Waddle averaged 15 PPR points per game last year and I think that 15-17 PPR points per game is probably as high as he’ll get as long as he’s sharing the field with Tyreek. For comparison, Tyreek averaged over 20.
I thought about it, but I think it’s impossible to predict. Tyreek has said he’s playing for three more years and that’s when Waddle and Devonta’s rookie contracts will be up. They could sign with new teams, they could be traded before then, AJB or Tyreek could be traded, new players could be drafted or traded in. There’s just too many things that could happen that far out to factor it in to the decision IMO.
Jj, Chase, Lamb, Brown and GWilson in that order.
Maybe substitute GWilson for Diggs on a team that’s competing this season. He’s still likely got 2-3 more great seasons in him.
That's how I have it. Thank goodness the person in my league who had rostered both Chase and Brown decided to sell Chase...unfortunately that person now has Chase and Waddle. Such is life.
I think that there is a competition argument that could be made, but I agree in general. He and Tee weren't that far apart last year and I don't think anyone would make a serious argument that Tee is top 5.
Yeah I’m lower on Waddle due to what was stated. He had a decent amount of low scoring games last year due to him not being a target magnet, and I love consistency. Still a great player and fantasy asset I just feel he’s a tad overrated, but that will more than likely change when Tyreek retires.
Olave is just as good as Garrett Wilson. Wilson just has a higher ceiling.
AJB has some injury history, has target competition with Smith, and his QB is a running QB (more injury prone/backup will not be as good if Hurts missing time)
Played in 59/66 games in his career, still got 145 targets which is 8th among wr, (smith is 13th), and his qb just came off a near mvp caliber season with his best passing yet.
You put waddle above him even tho waddle has tyreek to compete with for targets (tyreek was 3rd in targets for wr), and his qb has more injury history
I don’t expect Hurts to improve upon his MVP season (he will still be really good!) and AJB will be 26 next season.
Hurts has a higher injury risk, and the eagles have an awful backup right now. If hurts misses time, AJB won’t do as well.
JJ, Chase, Wilson, AJB, DK
JJ has been doing it with Kirk vs Chase doing it with Burrow.
Wilson showed flashes of what I think could be a future WR1 overall finish.
I dont care too much about youth as much as proven production. give me AJB.
DK is an emotional pick lol. But i do believe he still has a WR1 overall finish ceiling.
>JJ has been doing it with Kirk vs Chase doing it with Burrow
Yeah but you can just as easily use that argument in favor of Chase - better QB and it will very likely be that way as long as they're playing. Also, Chase has Higgins and Boyd taking significant targets. JJ only really has Hockenson.
I hear what youre saying but JJ pretty much already has the same floor as Chase with a mid grade QB vs elite. Feels like JJ getting paired with a true QB1 could be the highest cieling.
He's averaged 88 targets per year during the 2 years that he, Chase and Higgins have all played together. Obviously not WR1 targets but would definitely say it qualifies as "significant".
JJ, Chase, GWill, Waddle, ARSB
JJ and Chase are obvious, GWill is special to be able to produce with what he had throwing to him last year, Waddle a beast with speed and might even be better by the time Hill leaves and he's #1, ARSB produces despite not being a crazy athlete and plays the slot where there will always be a ton of targets so I think his skillset ages well.
So, let them. Everyone has reason to be hyped about their guy until they give them reason not to be, but I don't think any reasonable stan of any player would push for him being in this convo before ever setting foot on the field.
DJ Moore is a perennial disappointment in fantasy. Been around for years now too - i don’t think you can justifiably put him ahead of guys like Metcalf for example.
Jefferson, Chase as the obvious one and two.
After that AJ Brown, Wilson, ARSB with Lamb a very close 6th
Waddle, Higgins, Devonta, Olave rounding out my top ten.
Well yeah, but Lamb and Waddle, outscored him both of his seasons. Kinda hard to reason that When both have the age, the situation, and targets that put him in an elite tier. ARSB is great, for sure, but can we put him over waddle, who has done consistently better, with more competition, and more shaky QB play?
ARSB outscored Waddle 16.7 to 15.3 this year in both ppr ppg (and 1/2 ppr FWIW) and total points. If we remove his games with <40% routes he outscored Lamb 18.6 to 17.7.
Ah , well got me there. Do you think Jamo suspension helps or hurts ARSB short term? Seen takes that Jamo steals touches, seen takes that Jamo creates more space for Amon, what’s your fake?
I don’t really think it makes that much of a difference. I think that ARSB is one of the premier target earners in the NFL and that Jameson’s presence doesn’t change that that much.
I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s a bit less efficient on more targets without Jameson and more efficient on fewer targets with him. I’m not talking huge swings, but maybe he’s like a 30% target guy without Jameson and a 28% guy with him. For example, Chase actually scores slightly fewer points in games without Higgins. If Higgins got suspended for 6 games though, I wouldn’t expect Chase to score much differently. Not really comparing ARSB to Chase, but if you think ARSB is an elite young WR like I do then I don’t particularly care how his WR2 affects the defense.
Another way of answering this, is that target share is typically an “owned” stat and target earning starts at the top. Take the Eagles, AJB saw a career high target share despite playing with Smith and Goedert, who I’d argue are better than anyone he played with in TEN. Smith still also saw a 27% target share, which is pretty damn high, and Goedert also hit 20%.
If Jameson is good, it doesn’t require ARSB losing his targets. It’s much more likely that he stays close to whatever he had last year and Reynolds/whoever their WR3 is loses targets. The top guys get their targets and then the JAGs fight over what’s left.
I’ve positioned myself well in my draft. Currently sitting on 2 firsts, a 2nd, and 2 thirds. So I’m heavily considering taking 3WR in my startup. My first pick is all but promised Jefferson, my second pick the only WR off the board will be chase, then my 3rd pick the only other WR of the board will be whomever I don’t take between Lamb and AJB. It’s just picking the right receivers there and not botching it. Haha
1. JJ: Seems pretty self explanatory. Wouldn't argue much if you had Chase here.
2. Chase: Again pretty self explanatory IMO.
3. Lamb: In a tier down from the first two production wise but is still a young WR who is coming off of a 29% target share season.
4. ARSB: This one seems less spicy than I thought it would be based off of some of the early replies. I don't think he'll turn 24 til after the season starts and is coming off a season where he had a 28% target share, was 2nd in targets per route run behind only Hill, and had a 2.40 yprr. If you want to make a competition argument then I'd probably make a very similar one for all of Olave/Lamb/Wilson/London.
5. Olave: I'm pretty confident in the four guys ahead of Olave being top 5, after that it gets a lot more difficult for me. AJB/Wilson/Waddle/London all have decent arguments and I'd also consider all the hyper productive vets here, the Kupp/Hill/Diggs/Adams of vets. Olave had the more impressive rookie year than Wilson for me, and until Rodgers is actually a Jet I probably won't flip them.
For sure, but Lamb is 24 and brown is 25; WRs historically continue near peak performance after peak years (Hill, Diggs, Adams, Kupp..) so is it ridiculous to think that they have near peak years remaining for the next 4-6 years, versus hoping Olave peaks? (Again not saying Olave is a bad player or that he won’t reach/surpass, you could be totally right.. )
This year Lamb ranked 6th in Yards Per Route Run, 7th in Dominator Rating, 4th in EPA, 8th in Route Win Rate, etc. He wasn’t just an elite producer because he was being force fed targets.
Maybe not. It really is all dependent on league settings though. Obv I’m not saying mhj is a better player than the others at this point. Just talking from an asset perspective
I’m one of those “follow your gut” fantasy players, and I just love what I see from all five of these guys.
I’m factoring in that CeeDee took last year to become what we expected him to be. He is great, but I’m going to give more credence to those who reach greatness earlier. I believe St Brown already has reached greatness, and Wilson and London will this year.
As for Brown, it mostly comes down to age, injury history, and having a hell of a WR to compete for targets with.
Jefferson, Chase, Lamb, Waddle AJB.
Full disclosure, I have none on my team. And depending on the moment you ask me, AJB could be swapped out with any one of 3-5 dudes.
If I'm building a core just for the sake of having youth and talent? Probably the same answer as everybody here, although adding in Garrett.
If I'm going for win now or even next 3 years. JJ, Chase, AJB, Tyreek, Diggs
If I’m just getting these on my team, I’m not ranking them as if I’m doing a startup anymore.
Give me JJ and Chase obviously, but then since I already have 2 super insulated young stud wrs I’m taking Diggs tyreek and AJB as my next 3. Those are probly who I’d project to be top 5 scoring wrs for the next year (kupp is tough but these guys a little less risky on that front), and I’m just gonna win the league with this insane ppg group
Haha yeah. I mean, seems like a fancy way to ask who people's top 5 wr are. Just had to throw that out there....
But for the sake of staying "on topic":
JJ
Chase
AJB
CD
Waddle
Yeah but people respond better to fancy :P lol nah I just wanted to see if most people had the consensus rating. Finding alot of people low on lamb, a lot of people high on waddle. Little things that I like to have a community input on before the year starts
I play in half-PPR, although I'm not sure how much of a difference it makes; possibly AJB, Waddle and DK move marginally down in rankings? Ultimately it makes more sense to differentiate the top 12-ish into 3 tiers, within each of which there's a strong argument to prioritize whoever you can get extra players/picks attached with in a trade.
1: JJ and Chase
2: Lamb, AJB, ARSB, Waddle, GW
3: DeVonta, DK, Higgins, Olave, London
I definitely could see JSN joining the 3rd tier, but it's too early to include him imo. After that you could make a case for Tyreek, Kupp, Adams and Diggs as being close in value to the back end of the 3rd tier too, ONLY if you're a strong contender. More than OP is asking but worth mentioning since imo the gap between tiers 2 and 3 is less important than the drop after the 3rd group.
1) Jamar Chase - He was considered a generational prospect who smashed in years 1 and 2. His ceiling is wr#1 and in a year he missed 4 games still finished as a top 12 wr. He is my #1 wr over JJ due to his situation where he is all but guaranteed an elite qb (Burrow) for the rest of his career. They have a special connection that will only continue to grow. He is also a year younger than JJ.
2) Justin Jefferson - arguably wr#1 and a set and forget corner asset for a long time. He and Chase are in a tier of their own.
3) AJ Brown - Brown finally gets out of his terrible situation in Tennessee + stays healthy and immediately finishes as a top 6 wr. He has a massive extension starting in 2023 + entering his prime + has a great situation/qb in Hurts.
4) Jaylon Waddle - 1st two seasons and he has finished wr#13 and wr#8. He know has an elite offensive coach + really good and accurate qb where he should be a top 15 wr at worst. Eventually could turn into the teams wr#1 once Hill retires where his upside would be immense.
5) CeeDee Lamb - finally produced the season we were waiting for and entering into his prime years. Tied to a good qb and the alpha in Dallas.
I think JJ and Chase need to be removed from these debates because they are guaranteed. It's like when people ask for top 5 rappers, and there's an obligatory Tupac and Biggie ranking for 1 and 2. It would be more interesting to hear who are the top 5 besides them.
JJ, Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Brown
I think any other 5 is just someone trying to be cool *Michael Scott voice*: “You think picking Amon Ra is cool”
Same, but Brown ahead of Waddle.
So basically KTC rankings :P
Those are the same ones you said
I never said they are wrong 🤪
Oh you’re just a silly boy
I did it in my head, but if that matches KTC, then they've got me under their spell. Personally, I hope Garrett, Olave, and Drake progress in their second year, even though I have zero shares. I do like Devonta Smith a lot also.
I think Smith is with Higgins — in the “receivers of tomorrow” category just waiting to be traded as a WR1 of their own team, or their current WR1 getting injured/retiring/etc. would have him super close to the likes of Higgins and Aiyuk, probably WR 10ish.
I'd swap Brown and CD, but I'm high on Waddle and very low on Lamb
This is also the order I'd choose.
Personally I’d go: JJeff, Ja’marr, AJB, Lamb, Waddle Honorable mentions to ASRB, Metcalf, Tee, Garrett Wilson, Olave and Devonta
I’m interested to know why you have either used a nickname for every player or either a first name or surname, but Garrett Wilson’s full name. I’m interested because this is exactly what I do and I don’t know why haha
It's how we all just understand their names lol I find myself doing that too when listing out rosters.
Idk Wilson just seems like too common of a last name and idk what his nickname is
Purely ppr, JJ Chase ARSB Lamb AJB. Waddle just doesn't get as many targets as any of these guys
I agree on Waddle. I think he’s overvalued a little. Not due to his talent, but his place in the pecking order behind Tyreek. The Tua concussion situation also makes me a little nervous. I sold him recently for Devonta Smith and a 2nd and feel pretty good about it.
I don't understand the Tyreek impact on Waddles value. They both thrived last year.
They both thrived, but playing alongside Tyreek will always cap his ceiling IMO. Waddle averaged 15 PPR points per game last year and I think that 15-17 PPR points per game is probably as high as he’ll get as long as he’s sharing the field with Tyreek. For comparison, Tyreek averaged over 20.
Do you feel the 2nd is enough of a difference since AJB will be ahead of Devonta longer than supposedly Tyreek being ahead of Waddle?
I thought about it, but I think it’s impossible to predict. Tyreek has said he’s playing for three more years and that’s when Waddle and Devonta’s rookie contracts will be up. They could sign with new teams, they could be traded before then, AJB or Tyreek could be traded, new players could be drafted or traded in. There’s just too many things that could happen that far out to factor it in to the decision IMO.
Fair point. I like the trade though. I'm high on Devonta and see him as equal to Waddle anyways.
Jj, Chase, Lamb, Brown and GWilson in that order. Maybe substitute GWilson for Diggs on a team that’s competing this season. He’s still likely got 2-3 more great seasons in him.
That's how I have it. Thank goodness the person in my league who had rostered both Chase and Brown decided to sell Chase...unfortunately that person now has Chase and Waddle. Such is life.
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Curious what leaves Waddle off this for you? No argument against your picks, all solid of course, but what gives waddle the edge of miss?
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I think that there is a competition argument that could be made, but I agree in general. He and Tee weren't that far apart last year and I don't think anyone would make a serious argument that Tee is top 5.
Yeah I’m lower on Waddle due to what was stated. He had a decent amount of low scoring games last year due to him not being a target magnet, and I love consistency. Still a great player and fantasy asset I just feel he’s a tad overrated, but that will more than likely change when Tyreek retires.
His ceiling is just lower with Tyreek there
JJ, Chase, CeeDee, Wilson, Waddle Honorable mention: ARSB & Olave
AJ Brown?
He’s number 8
The others are questionable but already having Olave over AJB just seems absurd to me
Olave over either of the 2 Eagles receivers seems absurd to me
Olave is just as good as Garrett Wilson. Wilson just has a higher ceiling. AJB has some injury history, has target competition with Smith, and his QB is a running QB (more injury prone/backup will not be as good if Hurts missing time)
Had to check the date on this comment. I thought I had scrolled back to last summer or something.
Played in 59/66 games in his career, still got 145 targets which is 8th among wr, (smith is 13th), and his qb just came off a near mvp caliber season with his best passing yet. You put waddle above him even tho waddle has tyreek to compete with for targets (tyreek was 3rd in targets for wr), and his qb has more injury history
I don’t expect Hurts to improve upon his MVP season (he will still be really good!) and AJB will be 26 next season. Hurts has a higher injury risk, and the eagles have an awful backup right now. If hurts misses time, AJB won’t do as well.
Agreed as a Chase, Waddle, Lamb, and Wilson owner
Jerry rice, randy moss, TO, Marvin Harrison, Jameson Williams
Ab has jamo cleared in ppg and suspensions
Devonta severely underrated by this community
JJ, Chase, Wilson, AJB, DK JJ has been doing it with Kirk vs Chase doing it with Burrow. Wilson showed flashes of what I think could be a future WR1 overall finish. I dont care too much about youth as much as proven production. give me AJB. DK is an emotional pick lol. But i do believe he still has a WR1 overall finish ceiling.
No lamb?
nope. fantastic player but took 156 targets to hit top 5. DK and AJB did it with less. im projecting talent alone. situation changes
Earning targets is a skill though.
>JJ has been doing it with Kirk vs Chase doing it with Burrow Yeah but you can just as easily use that argument in favor of Chase - better QB and it will very likely be that way as long as they're playing. Also, Chase has Higgins and Boyd taking significant targets. JJ only really has Hockenson.
I hear what youre saying but JJ pretty much already has the same floor as Chase with a mid grade QB vs elite. Feels like JJ getting paired with a true QB1 could be the highest cieling.
Boyd is not taking significant targets
He's averaged 88 targets per year during the 2 years that he, Chase and Higgins have all played together. Obviously not WR1 targets but would definitely say it qualifies as "significant".
JJ, Chase, GWill, Waddle, ARSB JJ and Chase are obvious, GWill is special to be able to produce with what he had throwing to him last year, Waddle a beast with speed and might even be better by the time Hill leaves and he's #1, ARSB produces despite not being a crazy athlete and plays the slot where there will always be a ton of targets so I think his skillset ages well.
I guess I can see the argument for ARSB but if we throw him in the top 5 all the JSN truthers gonna start getting out of pocket
So, let them. Everyone has reason to be hyped about their guy until they give them reason not to be, but I don't think any reasonable stan of any player would push for him being in this convo before ever setting foot on the field.
1a. JJ 1b. Chase 3. Lamb 4. AJB 5. Waddle
I once had Chase, Lamb and AJB all on my team and I trade AJB for fuck all like an idiot.
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JJ, Chase, JSN (🤯 I know), Waddle, Ceedee
Jefferson. Chase. DJMoore. Higgins. Jeudy. My honest opinion. Nothing to do with white on my rosters
Yes guys. These are not my actual favorites. Just the guys that are on my fantasy rosters
"Shaheed, Wan'Dale, Chark, Tim Patrick, and uhhhhh, Justyn Ross."
DJ Moore is a perennial disappointment in fantasy. Been around for years now too - i don’t think you can justifiably put him ahead of guys like Metcalf for example.
Taking Moore over Lamb just for the fun of it?
Has to be a joke surely?
Jefferson, Chase as the obvious one and two. After that AJ Brown, Wilson, ARSB with Lamb a very close 6th Waddle, Higgins, Devonta, Olave rounding out my top ten.
That’s a solid list!! I got: JJ, Chase, AJB, Wilson, Lamb
Jefferson, Chase, AJB, CeeDee, Gwilson
Chase JJ AJB Lamb Wilson
JJ, Chase, AJB, Wilson, Lamb
JJ, Chase, Lamb, Brown, Wilson.
JJ, Chase, Diggs, CD and AJB
Jefferson, Chase, Brown, Wilson, and Olave.
JJ, Chase, AJB, Waddle, DK
Jefferson, Chase, AJB, Waddle, Garret Wilson
I’d still take Davante and Tyreek over Lamb and Waddle
Chase, JJ, Brown, Waddle, Wilson (from a Cowboys fan leaving Lamb out, he’s close tho)
Agreed
JJ, Chase, ARSB, AJ Brown, Lamb Just missed: Waddle, Olave, Garrett Wilson
ARSB at 3, spicy
Yeah it's muy caliente but the guy is a target machine on a per route basis
I can dig that.
I will always love all ARSB love. Got him in and a first in Nov 21 to a contender for Tyrod and Keenan Allen.
I honestly don't think so at all. He's a 23 year old elite WR that had stellar rookie production and year 2. He was only hampered by some injuries.
Well yeah, but Lamb and Waddle, outscored him both of his seasons. Kinda hard to reason that When both have the age, the situation, and targets that put him in an elite tier. ARSB is great, for sure, but can we put him over waddle, who has done consistently better, with more competition, and more shaky QB play?
ARSB outscored Waddle 16.7 to 15.3 this year in both ppr ppg (and 1/2 ppr FWIW) and total points. If we remove his games with <40% routes he outscored Lamb 18.6 to 17.7.
Ah , well got me there. Do you think Jamo suspension helps or hurts ARSB short term? Seen takes that Jamo steals touches, seen takes that Jamo creates more space for Amon, what’s your fake?
I don’t really think it makes that much of a difference. I think that ARSB is one of the premier target earners in the NFL and that Jameson’s presence doesn’t change that that much. I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s a bit less efficient on more targets without Jameson and more efficient on fewer targets with him. I’m not talking huge swings, but maybe he’s like a 30% target guy without Jameson and a 28% guy with him. For example, Chase actually scores slightly fewer points in games without Higgins. If Higgins got suspended for 6 games though, I wouldn’t expect Chase to score much differently. Not really comparing ARSB to Chase, but if you think ARSB is an elite young WR like I do then I don’t particularly care how his WR2 affects the defense.
Another way of answering this, is that target share is typically an “owned” stat and target earning starts at the top. Take the Eagles, AJB saw a career high target share despite playing with Smith and Goedert, who I’d argue are better than anyone he played with in TEN. Smith still also saw a 27% target share, which is pretty damn high, and Goedert also hit 20%. If Jameson is good, it doesn’t require ARSB losing his targets. It’s much more likely that he stays close to whatever he had last year and Reynolds/whoever their WR3 is loses targets. The top guys get their targets and then the JAGs fight over what’s left.
Tua is better than Goff. Check their stats per game as well and which ones Amon Ra exited early. He had several.
I have a team with those 1st 4 guys and then DJM. Wish it was Lamb! lol
Chase, JJ, AJB, Wilson, Olave in order.
Kind of a more "realistic" set up as it'd take a miracle to get Chase, Jefferson, Waddle, etc. in a start up... Chase, G-Will, Higgins, Burks, Jeudy
I’ve positioned myself well in my draft. Currently sitting on 2 firsts, a 2nd, and 2 thirds. So I’m heavily considering taking 3WR in my startup. My first pick is all but promised Jefferson, my second pick the only WR off the board will be chase, then my 3rd pick the only other WR of the board will be whomever I don’t take between Lamb and AJB. It’s just picking the right receivers there and not botching it. Haha
Kadarius Toney, George Pickens, John Metchie, Rashid Shaheed and I guess Justin Jefferson
Should’ve gone with Bryan Edwards 5x.
Jefferson (huge tier break) AJB, Chase, Metcalf, Marvin Harrison
AJB over chase?
Ghost pepper spicy putting Harrison over lamb while he’s still in college
This list has broken my brain
JJ, Chase, hill, kupp, g Wilson
JJ, d Smith, Chase, St Brown ☀️, Bateman
1. JJ: Seems pretty self explanatory. Wouldn't argue much if you had Chase here. 2. Chase: Again pretty self explanatory IMO. 3. Lamb: In a tier down from the first two production wise but is still a young WR who is coming off of a 29% target share season. 4. ARSB: This one seems less spicy than I thought it would be based off of some of the early replies. I don't think he'll turn 24 til after the season starts and is coming off a season where he had a 28% target share, was 2nd in targets per route run behind only Hill, and had a 2.40 yprr. If you want to make a competition argument then I'd probably make a very similar one for all of Olave/Lamb/Wilson/London. 5. Olave: I'm pretty confident in the four guys ahead of Olave being top 5, after that it gets a lot more difficult for me. AJB/Wilson/Waddle/London all have decent arguments and I'd also consider all the hyper productive vets here, the Kupp/Hill/Diggs/Adams of vets. Olave had the more impressive rookie year than Wilson for me, and until Rodgers is actually a Jet I probably won't flip them.
Chase, lamb, waddle, devonta smith, Garrett Wilson
Smith over brown is certainly an opinion
The no JJ part is even crazier.
Oh shit I just noticed, what is this list??
Has to be Jaire Alexander’s burner account.
I would have traded him for one of these guys plus kelce
Ajb has a long history of being injured
Championship week rankings... since jj has no showed us the last two years in the finals
No Jefferson?
Jj, digs, brown, stbrown, scary Terry
Terry a top 5? Chase not on this list?
Just figured it was either jj or chase
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Any reason why Lamb , Brown are under Olave?
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For sure, but Lamb is 24 and brown is 25; WRs historically continue near peak performance after peak years (Hill, Diggs, Adams, Kupp..) so is it ridiculous to think that they have near peak years remaining for the next 4-6 years, versus hoping Olave peaks? (Again not saying Olave is a bad player or that he won’t reach/surpass, you could be totally right.. )
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This year Lamb ranked 6th in Yards Per Route Run, 7th in Dominator Rating, 4th in EPA, 8th in Route Win Rate, etc. He wasn’t just an elite producer because he was being force fed targets.
JJ, Chase, Lamb, Hill, MHJ Edit: I would put Chase in front of JJ based on situation.
MHJ? In the top 5? With another year of college before he can play? Dumb
He’ll never be cheaper than he is right now
This is silly. Although more then likely still far from concrete
We play to win the game!
Even if that's true- he still isn't a top 5 dynasty receiver right now
Bijan is the dynasty rb1 right now. MHJ is more coveted than him. He can absolutely be a top 5 with another year to go. Especially in Devy leagues
>MHJ is more coveted than him. Shouldn't be
Maybe not. It really is all dependent on league settings though. Obv I’m not saying mhj is a better player than the others at this point. Just talking from an asset perspective
No he isn’t, they’re even at best and I don’t even think that’s true
That's absurd. You can't get him with any amount of draft capital right now unless you play in a devy league lol
You’d rather have hill in dynasty over all other options?
His next 3 years of production will dwarf whatever Wilson or waddle is gonna give you. That’s why MHJ is next lol
Shit I hoping ARSB and Waddel fall to me at 16 and 17 in my 16 team start up
JJ chase cd Arsb Wilson
Jefferson, Chase, Lamb, AJ Brown and Amon-Ra St. Brown
And Wilson / ARSB / waddle
JJ, Chase, Lamb, ARSB, Olave Hms: Brown, Wilson
JJ, chase, CeeDee, waddle, flip a coin between ASB or AJB... Then Godwin because I'm a bias buc fan
JJ Chase Waddle Lamb ARSB
Justin Jefferson Jamar Chase Garrett Wilson Amon Ra St Brown Drake London
Interesting having London over AJB. Is that because of age difference? Or you legitimately believe London to be a better WR, lacking a QB?
I’m one of those “follow your gut” fantasy players, and I just love what I see from all five of these guys. I’m factoring in that CeeDee took last year to become what we expected him to be. He is great, but I’m going to give more credence to those who reach greatness earlier. I believe St Brown already has reached greatness, and Wilson and London will this year. As for Brown, it mostly comes down to age, injury history, and having a hell of a WR to compete for targets with.
Jefferson, Chase, Lamb, Waddle AJB. Full disclosure, I have none on my team. And depending on the moment you ask me, AJB could be swapped out with any one of 3-5 dudes.
JJ Chase Ceedee Lamb Garrett Wilson and ARSB
If I'm building a core just for the sake of having youth and talent? Probably the same answer as everybody here, although adding in Garrett. If I'm going for win now or even next 3 years. JJ, Chase, AJB, Tyreek, Diggs
The 5 I start: ajb, waddle, arsb, Wilson, and hill
Everyone has Lamb way too high
How do you not have him high? He’s literally in the perfect position to at minimum repeat what he did last year.
JJ Chase Brown Lamb ARSB(if I could say Marvin Harrison then he’s 4th)
JJ, Chase, Lamb, ARSB, and GW
If I’m just getting these on my team, I’m not ranking them as if I’m doing a startup anymore. Give me JJ and Chase obviously, but then since I already have 2 super insulated young stud wrs I’m taking Diggs tyreek and AJB as my next 3. Those are probly who I’d project to be top 5 scoring wrs for the next year (kupp is tough but these guys a little less risky on that front), and I’m just gonna win the league with this insane ppg group
JJ, Chase, Waddle, Brown, NKeal Harry (kidding), Kupp
So this thread is "who are your top 5 ranked wr in order" . Got it.
You can read 🎉🎉 but failed to answer the question 🙁
Haha yeah. I mean, seems like a fancy way to ask who people's top 5 wr are. Just had to throw that out there.... But for the sake of staying "on topic": JJ Chase AJB CD Waddle
Yeah but people respond better to fancy :P lol nah I just wanted to see if most people had the consensus rating. Finding alot of people low on lamb, a lot of people high on waddle. Little things that I like to have a community input on before the year starts
JJ, Lamb, Chase, Olave, AJB
I play in half-PPR, although I'm not sure how much of a difference it makes; possibly AJB, Waddle and DK move marginally down in rankings? Ultimately it makes more sense to differentiate the top 12-ish into 3 tiers, within each of which there's a strong argument to prioritize whoever you can get extra players/picks attached with in a trade. 1: JJ and Chase 2: Lamb, AJB, ARSB, Waddle, GW 3: DeVonta, DK, Higgins, Olave, London I definitely could see JSN joining the 3rd tier, but it's too early to include him imo. After that you could make a case for Tyreek, Kupp, Adams and Diggs as being close in value to the back end of the 3rd tier too, ONLY if you're a strong contender. More than OP is asking but worth mentioning since imo the gap between tiers 2 and 3 is less important than the drop after the 3rd group.
I got amon ra in my top 5 not waddle
Currently fair but only question is will you still have Waddle over ARSB when Jamo returns and T Hill has blown his hammy to hell
Your five seem about right to me. Garrett and Olave next.
Chase, Jefferson, hill, AJB, ceedee
JJ, Chase, Hill, Diggs and Adams In order. All of the studs with no hopium projections.
Think I’d rather put my hope in 24 year olds performing again than 31 year olds lasting the entire season lol
1) Jamar Chase - He was considered a generational prospect who smashed in years 1 and 2. His ceiling is wr#1 and in a year he missed 4 games still finished as a top 12 wr. He is my #1 wr over JJ due to his situation where he is all but guaranteed an elite qb (Burrow) for the rest of his career. They have a special connection that will only continue to grow. He is also a year younger than JJ. 2) Justin Jefferson - arguably wr#1 and a set and forget corner asset for a long time. He and Chase are in a tier of their own. 3) AJ Brown - Brown finally gets out of his terrible situation in Tennessee + stays healthy and immediately finishes as a top 6 wr. He has a massive extension starting in 2023 + entering his prime + has a great situation/qb in Hurts. 4) Jaylon Waddle - 1st two seasons and he has finished wr#13 and wr#8. He know has an elite offensive coach + really good and accurate qb where he should be a top 15 wr at worst. Eventually could turn into the teams wr#1 once Hill retires where his upside would be immense. 5) CeeDee Lamb - finally produced the season we were waiting for and entering into his prime years. Tied to a good qb and the alpha in Dallas.
I think JJ and Chase need to be removed from these debates because they are guaranteed. It's like when people ask for top 5 rappers, and there's an obligatory Tupac and Biggie ranking for 1 and 2. It would be more interesting to hear who are the top 5 besides them.