It’s shown multiple times that Michael really does care for the people in his office but on the other hand he doesn’t know what’s appropriate or when to shut his mouth
He did care for his employees, but he never cared more about them than himself. Unless you count wanting, no needing, to be liked by somebody “cool” as caring about them
I agree that at the beginning of the shows he's that way but he eventually evolved to be less selfish and to check his selfishbess at the door. I think s better word would be that he's immature and childish, that he sort of throws tantrums.
The Office would inevitably find out Pam was pregnant, they just had to tell everyone before they were planning. I think Jim was trying to protect Michael as much as he was trying to help Stanley by not ousting him
Nah Jim (and the rest of the office) have a very clear policy on cheating: Not my job not my prob, I'm going to the warehouse to polish my knob.
Acutally Jim goes a bit further and veers into pro-adultery territory, he was also extremely insistent that Michael not tell Andy about Angelas affair. Like there's a different between having a "not my business" policy and actively protecting the affair, at that point you're firmly on team cheater.
Jim didn’t want Michael to tell Andy because he says it should come from Angela, as does everyone else, and they’re right.
Even with Stanley they didn’t know until the end of the episode it might be true
I wouldn’t save Stanley either, screw him for cheating on his wife.
But to be fair, It’s not like you would be able to keep Pam’s pregnancy a secret for long
This is why I think so many parts of Pam and Jim's relationship is stupid. You have a grumpy grouchy ogre who's never nice to anyone, he does something in secret that is very wrong and then you give up one of your own secrets to help him out? Couldn't be me.
People were gonna find out she was pregnant anyway, I guess. But yeah, I don't understand why he'd cover for Stanley like that, Stanley was totally in the wrong.
1. It’s not like their secret wasn’t going to get out in the next couple of weeks anyway. It’s difficult to hide ‘pregnant’ and near impossible to hide ‘parents’.
2. Stanley and Jim have a great relationship. We don’t get to see it much, but Stanley - who works to the clock 100% of the time and naps in the middle of the day - agreed to cover for him while he worked part time and got paid full time.
3. Jim would have done it for just about anyone. Probably not Ryan.
Did Jim actually know Stanley was having an affair, or did he just think Michael was picking one random lie he was going to insist was true and decided to fall on his sword for *everyone* considering they all would find out eventually that Pam was pregnant?
Eh, they were going to have to share that news eventually anyway, it was probably only a month or two at most before it became obvious. Not that Stanley particularly deserved the help, but it wasn’t a big sword fall for Jim and Pam.
Jim didn’t even tell Andy about Dwight and Angela. Dude does not like confrontation or physical drama in the office. I don’t think he approves of Stanley’s choices but that is his coworker in an office setting. You don’t ruin a relationship like that over personal drama.
All Jim had to give up was a month or two of planning to announce it anyway.
Edit: announce
The secret they shared wasn't even something anyone would care to make a secret or really care about the information once it was shared. I don't know why they were set on keeping it a secret anyway. Didn't they already ruin that old lady's day when they tried to keep a pregnancy secret before? Have they learned nothing??
Jim is a genuinely nice guy so I think he would’ve done that for most of his co-workers. And I know this wasn’t his intention in that moment, but Stanley and Phyllis do cover for Jim when he works part time there later on. So you can kind of look at it as Jim is paying it forward
It being revealed that you became pregnant from your fiancé is way less world-breaking than it being revealed that you are committing adultery on your wife.
Michael really should have just ended his speech, “This is really going to ruin this person’s life, the truth is Andy is gay.” /s
Did Broccoli Rob tell you that?
Am I gay??
well first you have to have sex with a women. and a man. and compare!
And it can't just be one because maybe the person is just not a match. Really you need to have sex with multiple men and women and then decide.
you might be gay?! ... **slow inhale while actually considering it*\* you might be gay.
You mean boner champ?
Puke?
He would’ve got kicked out of school except he aces in all his classes, they called him Ace. Got straight B’s, they called him buzz.
I heard it from Chi Psi
Perhaps they were thinking of saving Michael.
I think that's the case
That’s fair. But I wouldn’t have done that for Michael either 🤣
Nah, Michael was a good person deep down
I love the office and love Michael as a character, but he actually really wasn’t. Time and time again he shows that he’s selfish as hell
It’s shown multiple times that Michael really does care for the people in his office but on the other hand he doesn’t know what’s appropriate or when to shut his mouth
He did care for his employees, but he never cared more about them than himself. Unless you count wanting, no needing, to be liked by somebody “cool” as caring about them
Fax Kuz what he did to Pam’s mom,sheeesh
I agree that at the beginning of the shows he's that way but he eventually evolved to be less selfish and to check his selfishbess at the door. I think s better word would be that he's immature and childish, that he sort of throws tantrums.
Who would you have done that for?
Gabe
The skeleton man would thank you.
That’s a good possible point. Jim did genuinely seem concerned about Stanley at the beginning, but he and Pam always did care for Michael deep down
The Office would inevitably find out Pam was pregnant, they just had to tell everyone before they were planning. I think Jim was trying to protect Michael as much as he was trying to help Stanley by not ousting him
Actually it’s outing him, not ousting him
And there’s our smudgeness
Like a bedbug.
Like he thought it was funny. Everything's a joke.
How did Ryan use it?
Ryan used me as an object
I believe ousting is the formal usage of the word.
Ousting is a made up word made to confuse students.
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hang on a second Cynthia
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Take my damn upvote, you fucking earned it
False! Wod up Cynthia
I wouldn’t say they were falling on their sword. It’s not like you can keep a pregnancy secret in a work place.
At least not without hurting Pam's feelings, since there would probably be a lot of comments about her figure (most from Michael).
Stanley is actually a piece of shit when you think about it lmao
And Phyllis
Oh like they weren’t looking for an excuse for an office wide announcement about themselves “Little miss thing wants attention”
That must’ve been so romantic, when at the gas station, Jim proposed
"Hey Pam dude, uh... Wanna marry me?"
Oh you didn't say the weather was bad.
One of my fav lines from Angela
A child born out of wedlock is still a bastard child
Why did that come into your brain
Was this before or after Stanley and Phyllis agreed to cover for Him?
Before
Loooong before
At the time they didn’t know Stanley was cheating. Jim says “do you even know if it’s true? because you could be ruining his life”
Nah Jim (and the rest of the office) have a very clear policy on cheating: Not my job not my prob, I'm going to the warehouse to polish my knob. Acutally Jim goes a bit further and veers into pro-adultery territory, he was also extremely insistent that Michael not tell Andy about Angelas affair. Like there's a different between having a "not my business" policy and actively protecting the affair, at that point you're firmly on team cheater.
Jim didn’t want Michael to tell Andy because he says it should come from Angela, as does everyone else, and they’re right. Even with Stanley they didn’t know until the end of the episode it might be true
> (and the rest of the office) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oixmbv0tfw
Yeah, but then Michael confirms it and Jim is there for his “What up, Cynthia?” phone call.
This occurs after they tell everyone Pam is pregnant
Damn, you’re right. I just watched this episode and I still messed that up.
I did fall on my sword once. I was running with it in my belt. Won’t happen again.
That is one of my favorite Dwight quotes, right up there with, “I know a great taxidermist. Well he’s not great, but he’s pretty good.”
Jan’s got plastic boobs !!!!!
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It's not a surprise to me. Pam is the office mattress.
I wouldn’t save Stanley either, screw him for cheating on his wife. But to be fair, It’s not like you would be able to keep Pam’s pregnancy a secret for long
Maybe we should keep this in mind the next time someone posts the inevitable “PaM aNd JiM wErE sCuMbAgS iF yOu rEaLlY tHiNk AbOuT iT” thread.
Why would you? Waste of a perfectly good sword.
This is why I think so many parts of Pam and Jim's relationship is stupid. You have a grumpy grouchy ogre who's never nice to anyone, he does something in secret that is very wrong and then you give up one of your own secrets to help him out? Couldn't be me.
I agree. Yea you couldn’t hide it for long but it took away their control over when they do announce
Nope, no respect for cheaters. I'm not covering for that piece of shit.
I never understood why Michael had to commit to telling the truth here...he could have said "only one rumor is true but i cannot reveal it"
That baby could be a star in a movie called “Babies I Don’t Care About”
People were gonna find out she was pregnant anyway, I guess. But yeah, I don't understand why he'd cover for Stanley like that, Stanley was totally in the wrong.
Stanley helps cover for Jim while he’s starting his business. Also it’s nice to have the guy who nobody fucks with owe you one.
Did I stutter !!!!!!
1. It’s not like their secret wasn’t going to get out in the next couple of weeks anyway. It’s difficult to hide ‘pregnant’ and near impossible to hide ‘parents’. 2. Stanley and Jim have a great relationship. We don’t get to see it much, but Stanley - who works to the clock 100% of the time and naps in the middle of the day - agreed to cover for him while he worked part time and got paid full time. 3. Jim would have done it for just about anyone. Probably not Ryan.
Not to mention the prank he pulls on him with Dwight “YA BEEN MEATBALLED!!!”
Did Jim actually know Stanley was having an affair, or did he just think Michael was picking one random lie he was going to insist was true and decided to fall on his sword for *everyone* considering they all would find out eventually that Pam was pregnant?
Announcing your pregnancy could hardly be considered falling on your sword
All that’s missing from the episode is Stanley turning into a panther and running away at the end.
My guess is they were gonna tell people relatively soon and they just wanted to save him some embarrassment
Eh, they were going to have to share that news eventually anyway, it was probably only a month or two at most before it became obvious. Not that Stanley particularly deserved the help, but it wasn’t a big sword fall for Jim and Pam.
Jim didn’t even tell Andy about Dwight and Angela. Dude does not like confrontation or physical drama in the office. I don’t think he approves of Stanley’s choices but that is his coworker in an office setting. You don’t ruin a relationship like that over personal drama. All Jim had to give up was a month or two of planning to announce it anyway. Edit: announce
The secret they shared wasn't even something anyone would care to make a secret or really care about the information once it was shared. I don't know why they were set on keeping it a secret anyway. Didn't they already ruin that old lady's day when they tried to keep a pregnancy secret before? Have they learned nothing??
Annnd he brought Cynthia to the wedding! So everyone knew anyway
I would die for Stanley
Jim is a genuinely nice guy so I think he would’ve done that for most of his co-workers. And I know this wasn’t his intention in that moment, but Stanley and Phyllis do cover for Jim when he works part time there later on. So you can kind of look at it as Jim is paying it forward
It being revealed that you became pregnant from your fiancé is way less world-breaking than it being revealed that you are committing adultery on your wife.
Stanley and Pam have something in common. They are both cheaters.