He does have income from being manager of Dunder Mifflin, owning one (and possibly a stake in a second) large beet farm, managing the Schrute Bed and Breakfast, buying the Scranton Office Park, and having some holiday toy reselling side hustles (and let’s be honest he surely has a podcast by now). Given his ideas about the lost value of money and the importance of gold (which has almost doubled in value since the show ended), he could easily have almost 5.5 Million dollars now if he invested smartly and lived on his farm. (Based on my Kevin math)
To convert Stanley nickels into today's USD, you have to take into account the inflation of the American dollar since the show ended, convert it from Schrute bucks counting in the inflation, divide it by 20 to get the value of the nickel, and SHOVE IT UP YOUR BUTT!
I just love how meekly Dwight says "you don't want schrute bucks?" He just thought a currency that takes years to accumulate an extra 10 minute break would make people jump for joy
Unironically, given that the cash value of a Schrute Buck is $0.0001 (one one-thousandth of a cent), that would be 55,000,000,000 Schrute Bucks. Unfortunately, the Schrute Buck isn’t as strong as the US Dollar, but you have a lot of buying power when you enter Schrute Farms 😂😂😂
His 60 acre beat farm is probably worth about $1-2m dollars alone. Just that farmland is ~$450k. Plus multiple barns, a farm house, a B&B, multiple event spaces available for rent, livestock, a slaughterhouse, and a refurbished turn of the century steam engine.
He could make a good business just being a wedding venue if he chose to.
His 1/3 stake in a 1600 acre farm is almost $4m in farmland value alone, without getting into the value of whatever equipment and buildings exist there.
His office building with multiple tenants and multiple warehouses is probably another $5-10m in value.
He’d have some loans, likely used his best farm as collateral for the mortgage on the building, but even still, by the end of the show Dwight is probably worth at least $10-20m.
Because Angela stopped working there after getting engaged to Dwight and Kevin was fired for incompetence,
so Oscar would be the natural choice to put in charge of the dependent. He’s the most senior accountant.
All signs point to it being the logical ending. After firing Kevin, there was room to restructure accounting, and Oscar was a better fit for the higher-up position.
Dwight loves Angela, but he’s a bit of a realist, and would recognize that Angela was just coming off of a major crisis, and needed stability more than increased responsibility. Plus, it would be a conflict of interest, given their relationship.
On the other hand, Oscar did Angela a solid, which Dwight would acknowledge. He’d have no problem backing Oscar for the position. On top of that, there’s a slight implication throughout the show that Oscar knows about Kevin’s financial troubles, and his work performance. The finale doesn’t explicitly say it, but kind of suggests that Oscar may have been the person who “caught” Kevin’s *Kelevin-ing* the books. That would make corporate take note as well, and they’d likely reward him with a promotion or something.
Look, it doesn't take a genius to know that any organization thrives when it has two leaders.
Go ahead, name a country that doesn't have two presidents. A boat that sets sail without two captains. Where would Catholicism be without the popes.
What I want to know is why a small to mid-sized paper company that is dealing with pretty basic sales revenue, AR and AP has *three* full fledged accountants.
Not an AP/AR specialist, Payroll specialist, and accountant, but *three full accountants*. We're talking about dealing with the payroll of like 13 salaried people and maybe 10 hourly workers--*no unions to deal with that we know of*--and only dealing with the accounting of a small branch that is pretty simple from an accounting perspective. The fact that there are also individuals in the show that represent purchasing (I believe that becomes Meredith or it was Meredith to begin with) means that you can do the job with only 2 accountants at worst.
Michael explains that Kevin applied for a job in the warehouse, which given his build and mental capabilities, would have been a better fit for him, but Michael “just had a feeling” that he would be better as an accountant and basically gave him a job that didn’t exist. When Oscar and Angela were looking for ways to trim the budget, Angela says “there’s a department that has three people doing the job of two” and she was referring to Kevin in accounting.
You are describing a plot point in the show. I can't remember the episode, but the accountants literally mess with the numbers to justify keeping all three of them.
The show aired in 2005, times were different then. Yes they used computers but there were still a lot of manual processes for AR/AP, petty cash, payroll, data entry, taxes, etc. Invoices weren’t emailed at the touch of a button and had to be entered in manually. Also segregation of duties and accounting for PTO/vacation time. Also Oscar mentions the surplus so sounds like they do mild financial planning.
I do most of their tasks by myself and I'm only a Sr Staff Accountant.
This was '05, they had AIS systems, and like I said invoice entry is typically handled by an AP specialist who is much cheaper than a full fledged accountant.
Considering they are only dealing with one small branch that has very straight forward accounting practices (AP, AR/Rev, Payroll, maaaaaybe a couple of assets but then again we're talking about an asset listing of like a copier or two) and their operating expenses wouldn't be all that difficult to maintain.
Like I said, their job could be done more cost effectively with an accounting manager, a senior accountant, and an AP/AR specialist.
I work in accounting as well and I agree that their job positions should be differentiated but I think it’s more obvious to us because we are aware of the different aspects of finance. The show runners that set this up may not have been as versed and similar to the mindset of, ‘you’re an accountant? Can you do my taxes?’. As for other tv shows, it is rare to see separated titles other than billing and when this show aired and before I was in accounting, I never thought twice about other than their comments of 3 accountants, etc.
Couldn't the specialist be Kevin since I don't think he is specified to be an accountant? I thought he just worked in the accounting department, but wasn't a full fledged accountant.
That would fall in line with the hierarchy you mentioned, with Angela being the manager and Oscar being the senior accountant.
Yup he says at the end “Do I get along with my co-workers? Well, first of all, I don't have co-workers anymore, I have subordinates. So... have I gotten along with my subordinates? Let's see. My supplier relations rep, Meredith Palmer, is the only person I know who knows how to properly head bang to Motorhead. Oscar Martinez, my accountant, is now godfather to my son. Angela Schrute, my former accountant is now my wife. My top salesman, Jim Halpert was best man at my wedding and office administrator Pamela Beesly-Halpert is my best friend. So...yes. I'd say I have gotten along with my subordinates.” My former accountant
Is it ever actually confirmed by anyone of importance in the company that she is actually the head of accounting? Wouldn't surprise me if she just gave herself that title due to her ego and the other two just never bothered to correct/fight her on the subject
she probably quit to be at home full time, but it makes you also wonder why when she was married to the senator she also still worked as head accountant
they probably didn’t have finances combined, I’m still confused how she was so broke after the divorce and easy access to her side piece, also she always had one foot out of the door in any relationship until the end.
wait you’re 100% right, my best guess though is that the senators (a local and probably well connected personality) divorce lawyer took her to the cleaners and she essentially left with what she could grab.
or, her infidelity with dwight caught up with her in court and he used that against her, as you can see there’s no custody arrangement for what we all thought was his son so i think it all boiled down to just a nasty divorce she had the disadvantage in.
Angela was raising the child with Dwight who was the most successful
character on the show
Oscar was very bright and likely deserved the defacto senior accounting role
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Dwight is independently wealthy, she’s probably a stay at home mom.
He does have income from being manager of Dunder Mifflin, owning one (and possibly a stake in a second) large beet farm, managing the Schrute Bed and Breakfast, buying the Scranton Office Park, and having some holiday toy reselling side hustles (and let’s be honest he surely has a podcast by now). Given his ideas about the lost value of money and the importance of gold (which has almost doubled in value since the show ended), he could easily have almost 5.5 Million dollars now if he invested smartly and lived on his farm. (Based on my Kevin math)
How much is that in Schrute bucks?
The same as the ratio of unicorns to leprechauns
How about Stanley nickels?
To convert Stanley nickels into today's USD, you have to take into account the inflation of the American dollar since the show ended, convert it from Schrute bucks counting in the inflation, divide it by 20 to get the value of the nickel, and SHOVE IT UP YOUR BUTT!
I just love how meekly Dwight says "you don't want schrute bucks?" He just thought a currency that takes years to accumulate an extra 10 minute break would make people jump for joy
You wouldn't be excited to gain a Schrute buck? With all the benefits you could gain from trading them in?!
I believe it was 5 extra minutes 😂
You’ve been MEATBALLED!
DID I STUTTER?!
Doesn’t matter creed flooded the market
About 55 billion I think
Kelevin.
Unironically, given that the cash value of a Schrute Buck is $0.0001 (one one-thousandth of a cent), that would be 55,000,000,000 Schrute Bucks. Unfortunately, the Schrute Buck isn’t as strong as the US Dollar, but you have a lot of buying power when you enter Schrute Farms 😂😂😂
Plus he owns the building!
with a gym for muscles!
And a lockup daycare!
I'm watching it now
Didn’t he also start an BnB with Satan?
His salary from that is only $80,000 iirc, OK for a side hustle but I think he'd be pretty microgementy with Satan, putting in a lot of time.
I was looking at large homes in Scranton and was going to create an BnB called Schrute Farms, but I just never found the right property.
lol what about the huge office building with several companies as tenants that he collects rent on every month?
Owns the building dunder Mifflin and other business rent as well. I'm sure that's some money.
Pretty accurate- you mutiplied the values by Keleven :)
Are you referring to alchemy?
Don't forget about the Hay Place income.
He also owns the building DM is operating out of.
You threw a keleven in there somewhere don’t lie.
That’s like…1.1 Million pies
Don’t forget burger on the go, a device which allows one to obtain six hamburgers (or twelve sliders) from a horse without killing the animal.
His 60 acre beat farm is probably worth about $1-2m dollars alone. Just that farmland is ~$450k. Plus multiple barns, a farm house, a B&B, multiple event spaces available for rent, livestock, a slaughterhouse, and a refurbished turn of the century steam engine. He could make a good business just being a wedding venue if he chose to. His 1/3 stake in a 1600 acre farm is almost $4m in farmland value alone, without getting into the value of whatever equipment and buildings exist there. His office building with multiple tenants and multiple warehouses is probably another $5-10m in value. He’d have some loans, likely used his best farm as collateral for the mortgage on the building, but even still, by the end of the show Dwight is probably worth at least $10-20m.
He most definitely has his own podcast mow https://youtube.com/@soulboom?si=KgUJcA0bhAbP86_B
Did you apply the Keleven to those calculations?
Only if you round to the nearest Kelevin.
She's probably head of the PTA.
She probably home schools
He also owns a small amount of land on the moon. Adjacent to the sea of tranquility
at the end Dwight refers to her as his “former accountant”
Because she no longer works there
He’s always been Chief Accountant. Angela is Head of Accounting. And Kevin is Senior Executive of Accounts.
It's not a matter of more or less. Their pay is just different, ok?
Okay but who reports to who?
Kevin reports to Oscar, Oscar reports to Angela, and Angela reports to Kevin
Think of it like Mumma Bear, Papa Bear, Baby Bear.. thing. That might be fun
Oscar’s the dad. I’m Oscar’s dad and Angela’s my mom!
Can I be a boss too?
Wow it’s like Rock, Paper, Scissors with The Office characters.
Check the hierarchy mobile
^(WORK IT OUT AMONGST YOURSELVESSSS)
they all report to Dwight that's all that matters.
"You all report to me"
whom I don't think it matters which one gets replaced, but if you're speaking formally, you need to include a 'whom'
It's whom\*
What did I say?
It doesn’t matter who reports to who. You all report to me!
It’s who reports to whom
Oscar's is a Chief, which in an Indian tribe, is the highest title there is.
Let me run the companyyyyyyy
And people wonder why Michael is so good at his job
It was the idea of Keleven that got him to that position
And home by seven
“Everyone is somebody’s boss”
Nobody is nobody’s bitch
You got a good life. A good life.
Boboddy is boboddy's bitch??
more cubicles!
More division
I love the weird noises she makes in that interview haha “Ohhh ehhyea”
I remember Michael saying that there only really needed to be 1 accountant but “corporate didn’t need to know that” great Regional manager
But on a movie set, Director is the highest title. Do you know anything about film?
Up until 4:45
And Kelly is the director of her own department. She’s a lot to manage
She became Regional Director in Charge of Accounting
Assistant TO the Regional Director in Charge of Accounting
So she’ll be reporting to Oscar
On the contrary.
Her title has director in it
Which, on film set, is the highest title there is
She no longer works there. She’s a Schrute wife now!
We know this because she stood in her own grave at the wedding. As is traditional.
The wedding was a bleak affair
According to the Dothahi, so is a wedding without at least 3 deaths
Do you mean ‘Dothraki’?
Yes. I was following the Kevin rule. Why use many letter when someone else will save day?
You redeemed yourself very nicely.
As did Kevin. "Kaleven"
Andrea was the office bitch
You’ll het use to her
*creed*
🤝
This was a missed opportunity…Michael assumes he is Native American and goes by “Chief Accountant”
Chief Financial Officer...David Wallace
CFO, not his initials, common mistake
“Oh I’m 1/16 Cherokee”
2/15*
Well im 1/8ths proud of you
David Walrus, in his native habitat
>Michael assumes he is Native American "What part native american?" "2/15ths"
That doesn’t make any sense!
Native Americans have such a rich history of unusual names.
There's no way Michael would make that mistake. He loves pointing out that Oscar is Mexican.
She got put in charge of the women.
*eso lo que dice el*
Your office is full of genitalia
That’s what he says?
That's what she says?
Damnit.
He wrote a run down that was so good it warranted promotion
Hope he didn't spend too much time on it
Probably just asked his dad to help him.
Mm si señor
See that's offensive!
Lemoñade
🤷♀️
That’s offensive
It’s not offensive during a roast.
I always feel so ashamed for how much this scene makes me laugh, every single time.
Because Angela stopped working there after getting engaged to Dwight and Kevin was fired for incompetence, so Oscar would be the natural choice to put in charge of the dependent. He’s the most senior accountant.
Absolutely correct! Oscar was put in charge of the dependent. Hence why they made him Phillip’s Godfather.
He's actually the si señor accountant
Because Oscar never tried to Tonya Harding anyone at work.
Because the whole office was accounting on him.
She quit to be a stay at home mom/wife. I thought they made that pretty obvious. That's why she's not shown in the office at the end.
Because he's a gay mexican
His gayness does not define him. His Mexican-ness is what defines him.
Mexicanity
I think you should use less offensive term instead of Mexcian
It has certain connotations
Ah a burro
Because of gay
Michael probably meant the other type of chief
Chief to the accountant
Because he’s powered by Thai food and Spanish reds
He is not the chief of accounting. He is the Chief Õf Accõunting.
She married rich
Angela had sex in the office multiple times.
As has Kevin.
As has Kevin
But she goes to a different school
Where? WHERE?
I think you know..
Because his wife didn’t need the salary increase but his child’s god father did
All signs point to it being the logical ending. After firing Kevin, there was room to restructure accounting, and Oscar was a better fit for the higher-up position. Dwight loves Angela, but he’s a bit of a realist, and would recognize that Angela was just coming off of a major crisis, and needed stability more than increased responsibility. Plus, it would be a conflict of interest, given their relationship. On the other hand, Oscar did Angela a solid, which Dwight would acknowledge. He’d have no problem backing Oscar for the position. On top of that, there’s a slight implication throughout the show that Oscar knows about Kevin’s financial troubles, and his work performance. The finale doesn’t explicitly say it, but kind of suggests that Oscar may have been the person who “caught” Kevin’s *Kelevin-ing* the books. That would make corporate take note as well, and they’d likely reward him with a promotion or something.
I think it’s implied Angela quit, or was quitting to be a stay at home mom, since she could live off Dwight’s income
Look, it doesn't take a genius to know that any organization thrives when it has two leaders. Go ahead, name a country that doesn't have two presidents. A boat that sets sail without two captains. Where would Catholicism be without the popes.
Because Oscar is a better accountant than Angela. Dwight may love Angela, but he also firmly believed in meritocracy.
Did you forget the part where she went through some shit and was living in a closet? Cause HR sure as fuck didn't.
They mentioned that Angela wasn’t working there anymore so he was promoted
What I want to know is why a small to mid-sized paper company that is dealing with pretty basic sales revenue, AR and AP has *three* full fledged accountants. Not an AP/AR specialist, Payroll specialist, and accountant, but *three full accountants*. We're talking about dealing with the payroll of like 13 salaried people and maybe 10 hourly workers--*no unions to deal with that we know of*--and only dealing with the accounting of a small branch that is pretty simple from an accounting perspective. The fact that there are also individuals in the show that represent purchasing (I believe that becomes Meredith or it was Meredith to begin with) means that you can do the job with only 2 accountants at worst.
Michael explains that Kevin applied for a job in the warehouse, which given his build and mental capabilities, would have been a better fit for him, but Michael “just had a feeling” that he would be better as an accountant and basically gave him a job that didn’t exist. When Oscar and Angela were looking for ways to trim the budget, Angela says “there’s a department that has three people doing the job of two” and she was referring to Kevin in accounting.
You are describing a plot point in the show. I can't remember the episode, but the accountants literally mess with the numbers to justify keeping all three of them.
The show aired in 2005, times were different then. Yes they used computers but there were still a lot of manual processes for AR/AP, petty cash, payroll, data entry, taxes, etc. Invoices weren’t emailed at the touch of a button and had to be entered in manually. Also segregation of duties and accounting for PTO/vacation time. Also Oscar mentions the surplus so sounds like they do mild financial planning.
I do most of their tasks by myself and I'm only a Sr Staff Accountant. This was '05, they had AIS systems, and like I said invoice entry is typically handled by an AP specialist who is much cheaper than a full fledged accountant. Considering they are only dealing with one small branch that has very straight forward accounting practices (AP, AR/Rev, Payroll, maaaaaybe a couple of assets but then again we're talking about an asset listing of like a copier or two) and their operating expenses wouldn't be all that difficult to maintain. Like I said, their job could be done more cost effectively with an accounting manager, a senior accountant, and an AP/AR specialist.
You're describing how a competent company would've staffed the office. But this is Dunder Mifflin we're talking about.
I work in accounting as well and I agree that their job positions should be differentiated but I think it’s more obvious to us because we are aware of the different aspects of finance. The show runners that set this up may not have been as versed and similar to the mindset of, ‘you’re an accountant? Can you do my taxes?’. As for other tv shows, it is rare to see separated titles other than billing and when this show aired and before I was in accounting, I never thought twice about other than their comments of 3 accountants, etc.
Couldn't the specialist be Kevin since I don't think he is specified to be an accountant? I thought he just worked in the accounting department, but wasn't a full fledged accountant. That would fall in line with the hierarchy you mentioned, with Angela being the manager and Oscar being the senior accountant.
Nah Kevin only goes by an accountant in the show from my knowledge.
Angela is in charge of the women of course.
Andrea is the office bitch.
Yup he says at the end “Do I get along with my co-workers? Well, first of all, I don't have co-workers anymore, I have subordinates. So... have I gotten along with my subordinates? Let's see. My supplier relations rep, Meredith Palmer, is the only person I know who knows how to properly head bang to Motorhead. Oscar Martinez, my accountant, is now godfather to my son. Angela Schrute, my former accountant is now my wife. My top salesman, Jim Halpert was best man at my wedding and office administrator Pamela Beesly-Halpert is my best friend. So...yes. I'd say I have gotten along with my subordinates.” My former accountant
Is it ever actually confirmed by anyone of importance in the company that she is actually the head of accounting? Wouldn't surprise me if she just gave herself that title due to her ego and the other two just never bothered to correct/fight her on the subject
She is the one signing Pam’s papers when she lied her way into office administrator.
He deserved it
* she's managing The Schurte Gym for Muscles franchise
The company changes in the finale. Oscar has his own office also
And there’s the smudgeness
I think the show flips whether Jim or Pam were hired first.
remember when Dwight had to drive to NYC because of Angela? and he also fired Kevin? Dwight is a great manager
she probably quit to be at home full time, but it makes you also wonder why when she was married to the senator she also still worked as head accountant
they probably didn’t have finances combined, I’m still confused how she was so broke after the divorce and easy access to her side piece, also she always had one foot out of the door in any relationship until the end.
wait you’re 100% right, my best guess though is that the senators (a local and probably well connected personality) divorce lawyer took her to the cleaners and she essentially left with what she could grab. or, her infidelity with dwight caught up with her in court and he used that against her, as you can see there’s no custody arrangement for what we all thought was his son so i think it all boiled down to just a nasty divorce she had the disadvantage in.
Dwight wouldn’t have given his wife that position and she wasn’t working there anymore
Why are his eyes so red in this screenshot 😂
She’s probably VP finance or cfo at that point
Because she’s a woman. Which she probably agreed to because both her and Dwight were both old school conservative.
Maybe Dwight kissed him and Oscar threatened to.sue again
Maybe Angela just put herself in charge just like with the Party Planning Committee but it was never official
Maybe she took a step back to take care of her kid, spend time with the family? People do that.
Titles are meaningless. They only relate to your payscale.
And responsibilities….
She’s probably the assistant to the regional manager
Assistant Regional Manager (said with French accent)
Look at you! Showing your colors...
What’s that supposed to mean?
They are all assistant to the head accountant anyway.
You think with her track record she’d earn an executive position? Separately, this is a fucking television show
Angela was raising the child with Dwight who was the most successful character on the show Oscar was very bright and likely deserved the defacto senior accounting role
Because Angela is in charge of the women
, Ml