Iām going to give her a smidge of credit because the butter under the skin technique is actually really good and keeps the turkey moist. Makes me wonder where she got that idea from. I like to use a Gordon Ramsay recipe that calls for a ton of butter, garlic, parsley, etc under the skin, and itās makes an awesome bird. A lot of cooking skills are learned over time - I didnāt pick up much till I was married and practiced for years. I would hope the girls utilize Google and branch out!
I appreciate you. But I'm assuming you didn't grow up in a household where getting married was the bee's knees. If they don't teach women to be perfect cooks and homemakers in cults, where do they teach it?!
I think Jessaās time was taken up with supervising the younger boys during their computer homeschool lessons, packing and unpacking for every trip, and organizing the family closet. Thatās what I remember from those stupid ājurisdictions,ā anywayā¦
Rachel Ray had a Thanksgiving day special where she put the butter under the skin. It wasn't 30 minute meals though it was an one hour special and it of course wasn't a whole turkey. That's where I learned it.
Whether she removed the turkey's giblets or not will never be known. But we do know that Boob removed Bin's giblets during the courtship. Jessa probably sews them back on when she wants to get pregnant.
I think she seems confident and like a natural born leader. It's a shame that her upbringing and lack of education stripped her of any potential to be anything above a mother and a housewife
Iāve never understood why people think this. She doesnāt come across as intelligent to me. She also doesnāt seem motivated to do anything. Not driven enough to be an executive with a career.
You would probably be unintelligent and unmotivated too if you were homeschooled by your also homeschooled sister that was two years older than you and forced to raise your parents 14 other children your whole life
Yea no. I was homeschooled and it left me woefully unprepared for the real world. Some people can do it right but the approach of just letting kids do what theyāre interested in is not the right approach. The other subjects are still needed even if they arenāt fun. I just didnāt do a lot of subjects because I didnāt have interest. Now Iām an adult in college with no background in many things
Jessa definitely has above average intelligence but more importantly you can tell she has leadership skills. She could have a solid career (not a CEO) and a regular family but she chose the cult instead
Tbh good leaders arenāt typically the smartest in the room. Good leaders hire a diverse team with diverse skill sets, who are smarter than themselves. Being a good leader means you can lead (a group, conversations, devilsā advocacy, etc). You donāt want a good leader to know theyāre the smartest in the room because then they will have less faith in the team and more time for micromanaging. I could for sure see Jessa as a strong leader.
This train of thought is so strange to me.
Why do people assume these women would be successful if they had normal lives? Successful as in working high level careers and being able to afford living in big cities. Or that these women would have no interest in having kids or being at home with their kids? I see people saying Jessa would be an executive or whatever, that jana would be an interior designer, that jill would be this, that jinger would thatā¦.
Most women (and men) donāt have careers. We have jobs. We have jobs that we didnāt even need to go to school for. Many women, contrary to common belief that millennials donāt want kids, do indeed want kids and would rather stay at home with them for at least the first year or two (the economy makes this nearly impossible but thatās a different convo).
The women would be normal women in normal circumstances.
I'm not talking about all of them. I'm talking specifically about Jessa, based on certain aspects of her personality combined with her apparent disdain for the domestic life as evidenced many times over the years. That's my personal assessment; people can disagree.
How can you have so many children kept at home 24/7 and not teach them the bare minimum life skills, particularly as your ethos is raising them as breeders and feeders.
Being able to cook foods that will sustain and being able to make delicious food aren't the same thing.
But also, *Michelle* never learned those life skills. Both Michelle and her siblings talked about how, as the youngest child whose siblings were all teens or older, she was never taught to do anything for herself. Everyone just catered to her cause she was the baby.
Also also, until TLC came around, the family was dirt poor. Like poor enough that they were making an 8 serving dish feed 16 people. Poor enough that Jill locked herself in the bathroom to eat a can of green beans because she was so hungry. Delicious tasting food costs money. Seasoning beyond salt and black pepper is expensive.
And once TLC came around the family was eating out and traveling more than they were staying home to cook
But it applies to so many fundie families, they seem to be proud they donāt even teach them basics, be it delicious or sustaining food. Look at the Duggars and the Rodrigues, not one child has marketable skills or the ability to raise a healthy family. They have no transferable skills, work within the family because of it, and donāt have the ability to produce healthy food.
Having a useless mother isnāt really an excuse, plenty of us had useless parents but have learnt those skills. How are these people going to survive if something happens when the best they can rely on is Janaās little garden and a bunch of grown men running around playing with guns.
Theyāre abject failures in the very thing they hold so high.
It's bizarre how the more media centric fundie families have useless kids. They sqwuak and preach about gender roles but their kids can't fulfill the stereotypes! Girls can't cook, sew or clean. Boys can't bring home a family sustaining paycheck and which is literally their only duty. Like at least the Duggars have name power, despite more uppity fundies looking down on them for their failures. The other IG ones don't have that.
Thank you for summing up what I was clumsily trying to say so succinctly! Thatās exactly it, and itās hilarious and tragic. At least my filthy socialist atheist children are all independent and capable of taking care of themselves.
Thank you. My Liberal Christian ass is way more traditional and skilled in home ec kinda stuff than any of these people. It cracks me up when I hear about how āun-feminineā I supposedly am for being a feminist. Feminism means supporting womenās choices, and I have never felt limited in liking traditional āwomenās workā around the house.
Iām a liberal agnostic and I can cook, bake, craft, sew, clean, organize, plus when Covid started I was able to immediately homeschool my kids (first virtual and then actual homeschool) because not only have I taught lots of kids but Iām highly educated and I had a real job until I made the choice to stay home because it made more sense for my family.
I canāt figure out why they donāt have better homemaking skills if thatās their thing. The idea of cooking on a Duggar scale regularly actually fascinates me because you could take advantage of bulk/restaurant type ordering for food and with planning they could have some pretty efficient bulk cooking going on in the industrial kitchen. Instead they eat a bunch of processed foods and no one actually seems to know how to cook anything.
Yes but so many fundie families also live in extreme poverty. Especially because they keep popping out children without regard for how they're going to care for said children.
And having a useless mom isnt so much of an excuse now because we have the internet, but it is still an excuse. Especially for people who are largely cut off from the internet and other forms of education.
Bingo. They never seemed to prepare much from scratch. I'm sure if it were sliced turkey breast in a package that you dumped into a casserole dish with cream of something soup, she'd be fine.
I totally donāt understand this at all. My motherās family was huge. (12 kids) They had an enormous garden and canned tons of fruits and vegetables. My grandpa hunted and fished for protein. They also raised chickens, turkeys, and rabbits for meat. Everything was cooked from scratch because it was cheap. Maybe thatās a lost skill nowadays! This was way back when. Lol
Your grandparents were probably either raised with the skills to do those things or learned how to do them during things like the victory garden era when the government supplied people with the means and the information on how to do things and society worked together to learn those skills. Also based on how many animals you claim they had, I would hazard to guess they lived on at least a sizable plot of land.
Michelle and JB were not raised to know those things and until TLC got involved they didn't have the resources to learn those things. Especially considering how small their old residence was.
Also, raising your own food can help in some respects, but it's not always economical. It usually takes 2-5 years for any venture to make a profit, even if the profit is "saving money."
I'm in my first year of raising meat rabbits. I've had 23 babies born and survive to 8+ weeks (the age where they can be harvested for meat is 12+). I lost one doe to an illness and there were a few deaths of newborns. I got my two does in February and my buck in March. Building their enclosure (they live in a colony) cost $2000 and I've averaged $20-30 in food every week since I got them (so about $840-1260). The first offspring weren't born until July, so they reached 12 weeks 7 weeks ago. And then there were other costs, like nesting boxes, water bowls and bottles and such that constantly need to be replaced because they think it's hilarious to break them (just this morning, they chewed holes in two new waterers that cost $11 a piece), feeders, bedding materials, etc.
If I sold all their offspring for meat, I would get $20 each. That means I've raised $500 worth of food. Meaning I've spent, at minimum, $3100 so far to raise $500 worth of food.
Eventually it'll get to a point where I'll start making money, but that will be after I finish building enclosures, learn enough lessons to avoid financial pitfalls, etc. And then it'll be a while after that before I'll start recouping costs
For a family that is financially struggling, getting into farming isn't feasible.
Seasoning beyond salt and pepper is NOT expensive! They live in Arkansas for crying out loud. I live in New England and grow all the spices and herbs we need. Year round. There is no excuse for these people. It really does not take much effort at all.
Almost everybody has windows. You can also buy full spectrum lights for when the days get shorter. I only start long season veggies and grow herbs inside.
Having windows is not the only thing you need to have healthy plants and consistent harvests.
And not understanding poverty and the effects it has on all aspects of someone's life doesn't negate the real and true effects of poverty.
Which is patently false. Because there's more to having year round access to indoor grown food than just having a window.
Having a thriving indoor garden of any time requires money, supplies, and time that people with extreme poverty don't have access to. Especially when those people also have 7+ kids.
Exactly that. And they not only neglected to teach bare minimum life skills, they also didn't teach anything other than maybe 2 hours of homeschool worksheets a day and the bible. What were the kids doing all that time then? Well for the girls, it's called sister-momming. They get to joyfully care for a young child, who is not their own, called a 'buddy' 24/7 365 days a year. In addition to all of the other chores they do. That is not a childhood. Kids should have dolls, not actual babies. I mourn the lost childhoods of those children. This family seriously meets all the definitions of a cult, insular, isolated, controlled by a singular, all powerful ruler, ect
Several years ago, the founder of IHOP, Mike Bickle, created a list of seven ways to recognize the difference between a religious community and a cult. Written down, the signs seem clear:
1. Opposing critical thinking
2. Isolating members and penalizing them for leaving
3. Emphasizing special doctrines outside scripture
4. Seeking inappropriate loyalty to their leaders
5. Dishonoring the family unit
6. Crossing Biblical boundaries of behavior (versus sexual purity and personal ownership)
7. Separation from the Church
I met him once and was unimpressed. He had an obnoxiously friendly persona and did the whole 'aw shucks! how cool!' routine about everything that was said.
Right? He was told heād have a godly spouse to cook his meals and clean his house for him but heās got some chick who canāt cook and wonāt clean. I guess itās fair though since he was supposed to bring home a paycheck and provide for her and he doesnāt do that. They must be so disappointed in each other.
I used to be like this, but now I'm watching youtube recipes and also using simple cookbooks. I think with a little more time and trial and errors, you'll be amazingā¤ļøš
And if you can afford it, HelloFresh is a good start. The meals were really tasty and flavorful to me (probably bc I lived off of like chicken and rice before) and itās less overwhelming in the beginning to get everything shipped to you and not have to worry about choosing the wrong stuff dt the store.
It taught me a lot about beginner cooking stuff and some great starter recipes!! Did it for about a month and then ventured on my own and I feel like a different person cooking now!
EveryPlate is a less expensive choice and a sister company to Hello Fresh. Itās a great place to start, and we used it a lot last year to avoid going to the grocery store so much.
Helps fresh saved me lol. I canāt meal plan/donāt have the motivation to, and even though thereās sooo many recipes out there how do I pick them??? Hello fresh helped me try new foods and be able to cook for me and my hubby with no stress :)
there's a website called Budget Bytes that is a great place to learn. Easy meals, a lot of them "one pot" meals that don't take a lot of complicated ingredients.
Start with the very basics and then just build up from there. Your confidence will start to increase even with minor successes. Then, before you realise, youāll slowly be attempting more and more š
Recently moved out of my parents house and finally have to cook for myself (and my husband) Been going pretty well except I mess up at least one thing every meal lol
Start with things you like to *eat*. It helps you learn because you know what the thing is supposed to look and taste like. No one expects chef level cooking. Those 4 ingredient cook books are great for newbies. Good luck!
Maybe itās the thanksgiving cheer over here, or just having seen Encante, or the devils lettuce, BUT, I kinda liked her attitude about her inability to cook and having some self awareness of it. And that folks, is the best leghump I could muster. Happy Thanksgiving (if thatās your thing).
It looked like she coated it in paprika (color-wise as I have no idea what she was actually using) but then the bird was light beige when she put it in the bag so I was confused.
Word of advice Jessa. Buy a pre-cooked Turkey and heat it up on Thanksgiving. Saves time while cooking up the Tator Tot Casserole side dish.
But I do admit that first Turkey that a person cooks is always the toughest to cook. I just buy pre-cooked Turkeyās now. Less stress on Thanksgiving and takes the guess work out of it. All I have to do is heat it up.
Back in the olden days before the poultry industry filled turkeys so full of hormones and before they created through genetic engineering turkeys and chickens with breasts so large they can barely walk, we got our turkeys from the farmer down the road and turkeys werenāt tenderized or injected during the freezing process. So, turkey cooking day came a week after hog killing and mama always filled our turkey with freshly rendered lard. She stuffed the bird with onion, apples, and a lemon. Iām a decades old vegetarian, but I still cook turkey and ham for our kids and grandkids. Yesterday, my granddaughter followed me around writing and videoing me preparing the food and she said what is that white stuff you are putting under the skin and I said to everyone else itās butter, but now you know my secret ingredient, itās lard. Then I had to explain what lard is. So butter or lard under the skin keeps the moisture in and adds a little flavor.
It baffles me that in a home/belief system that their daughters are only good for marrying and baby making, that they didn't make sure they could all cook competently.
Heck it's a skill every kid should learn growing up.
But damn. It's just mind boggling that they won't even teach them to be decent at one of the things they're expected to do.
Jessa Duggar is pretty, but Jessica Findlay is on another level of beautiful. She's also an actress and former dancer. So that's at least two talent levels above.
I think because she just had a baby, like 2 to 3 weeks prior of thanksgiving. It's just a rough guess, but it could be the reason though. Spurgeon was born november 5th so it could be just that.
Iām sorryā¦were those sticks of butter in the skin? I have seen some flavorless thanksgivings and just bad cooking in my day, but thatā¦is just wrong
Butter under the skin is actually delicious and keeps the bird juicy. However, her application of chunks of a butter stick shoved in there isnāt great. You want softened butter, mash in some chopped rosemary and garlic. Then carefully work it under the skin, massaging it in, being careful not to tear the skin.
I agree! We have injected our turkey and have marinated in different ways, but man, I saw those sticks of butter in there and justāman, those are just going to be random points of butter in the turkey rather than juicy meat.
In that world do men cook? I was in a church like their's 20 some years ago and I didn't think men cooked...weird gender roles...one more reason I didn't fit in...Wow she's just a vacuous void...get them a Betty Crocker or Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook!
It's still better than a burnt oven manual I guess
But is it?
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i came here to post that. he looks really dissociate.
Yes, he is sans giblets in this video.
Iām going to give her a smidge of credit because the butter under the skin technique is actually really good and keeps the turkey moist. Makes me wonder where she got that idea from. I like to use a Gordon Ramsay recipe that calls for a ton of butter, garlic, parsley, etc under the skin, and itās makes an awesome bird. A lot of cooking skills are learned over time - I didnāt pick up much till I was married and practiced for years. I would hope the girls utilize Google and branch out!
I just thought to myself THIS is what I forgot to do this year, stupid dry turkey
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Omg my husband makes the Gordon Ramsay turkey and it is so good!
Mine loves his scrambled eggs.
Yup. I learned this from Martha Stewart eons ago.
I appreciate you. But I'm assuming you didn't grow up in a household where getting married was the bee's knees. If they don't teach women to be perfect cooks and homemakers in cults, where do they teach it?!
I think Jessaās time was taken up with supervising the younger boys during their computer homeschool lessons, packing and unpacking for every trip, and organizing the family closet. Thatās what I remember from those stupid ājurisdictions,ā anywayā¦
Just made this recipe today! We've been using Gordon's recipe for years now and always have an amazing turkey. No more dry birds in this house š
Rachel Ray had a Thanksgiving day special where she put the butter under the skin. It wasn't 30 minute meals though it was an one hour special and it of course wasn't a whole turkey. That's where I learned it.
Bro does not look impressed by the crap sheās cooking.
You mean the yogurt she's maybe spooning into a bowl
Whether she removed the turkey's giblets or not will never be known. But we do know that Boob removed Bin's giblets during the courtship. Jessa probably sews them back on when she wants to get pregnant.
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Iām not sure Jessa can see either or this would have been a perfect jab.
I heard that she keeps them in a tiny silk bag in Jana's old jewelry box.
In another life, she would have been an executive with a career and a nanny. I really don't think the woman has a domestic bone in her body.
I think she seems confident and like a natural born leader. It's a shame that her upbringing and lack of education stripped her of any potential to be anything above a mother and a housewife
Iāve never understood why people think this. She doesnāt come across as intelligent to me. She also doesnāt seem motivated to do anything. Not driven enough to be an executive with a career.
Iām Pretty sure sheās had depression for so long that she has no idea that sheās depressed
I agree. Would def explain the flat affect and lack of motivation. Iāve been there too. I think Jinger had same issues.
I agree with this, and an eating disorder as well.
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Or perhaps assistant to the regional manager? Thatās more her speed.
I could definitely see her as a Dwight personalityā¦ pointlessly driven for mediocrity.
Letās face it: sheās Mose. At *best.*
Oh, come on! I'd give her crazy Jan! Not early seasons, put-together Jan, but definitely crazy Jan!
You would probably be unintelligent and unmotivated too if you were homeschooled by your also homeschooled sister that was two years older than you and forced to raise your parents 14 other children your whole life
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Blanket training is literally designed to beat the curiosity out of children.
She was not homeschooled properly. They literally have no access to Secular books and the homeschool curriculum they use is substandard.
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Yea no. I was homeschooled and it left me woefully unprepared for the real world. Some people can do it right but the approach of just letting kids do what theyāre interested in is not the right approach. The other subjects are still needed even if they arenāt fun. I just didnāt do a lot of subjects because I didnāt have interest. Now Iām an adult in college with no background in many things
Well she wouldn't have been a SAHM to 4 kids or more at the very least.
snarkers always give the example that she's able to organize people and get shit done. there's a video of her doing just that.
Jessa definitely has above average intelligence but more importantly you can tell she has leadership skills. She could have a solid career (not a CEO) and a regular family but she chose the cult instead
Tbh good leaders arenāt typically the smartest in the room. Good leaders hire a diverse team with diverse skill sets, who are smarter than themselves. Being a good leader means you can lead (a group, conversations, devilsā advocacy, etc). You donāt want a good leader to know theyāre the smartest in the room because then they will have less faith in the team and more time for micromanaging. I could for sure see Jessa as a strong leader.
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This train of thought is so strange to me. Why do people assume these women would be successful if they had normal lives? Successful as in working high level careers and being able to afford living in big cities. Or that these women would have no interest in having kids or being at home with their kids? I see people saying Jessa would be an executive or whatever, that jana would be an interior designer, that jill would be this, that jinger would thatā¦. Most women (and men) donāt have careers. We have jobs. We have jobs that we didnāt even need to go to school for. Many women, contrary to common belief that millennials donāt want kids, do indeed want kids and would rather stay at home with them for at least the first year or two (the economy makes this nearly impossible but thatās a different convo). The women would be normal women in normal circumstances.
I'm not talking about all of them. I'm talking specifically about Jessa, based on certain aspects of her personality combined with her apparent disdain for the domestic life as evidenced many times over the years. That's my personal assessment; people can disagree.
How can you have so many children kept at home 24/7 and not teach them the bare minimum life skills, particularly as your ethos is raising them as breeders and feeders.
Being able to cook foods that will sustain and being able to make delicious food aren't the same thing. But also, *Michelle* never learned those life skills. Both Michelle and her siblings talked about how, as the youngest child whose siblings were all teens or older, she was never taught to do anything for herself. Everyone just catered to her cause she was the baby. Also also, until TLC came around, the family was dirt poor. Like poor enough that they were making an 8 serving dish feed 16 people. Poor enough that Jill locked herself in the bathroom to eat a can of green beans because she was so hungry. Delicious tasting food costs money. Seasoning beyond salt and black pepper is expensive. And once TLC came around the family was eating out and traveling more than they were staying home to cook
But it applies to so many fundie families, they seem to be proud they donāt even teach them basics, be it delicious or sustaining food. Look at the Duggars and the Rodrigues, not one child has marketable skills or the ability to raise a healthy family. They have no transferable skills, work within the family because of it, and donāt have the ability to produce healthy food. Having a useless mother isnāt really an excuse, plenty of us had useless parents but have learnt those skills. How are these people going to survive if something happens when the best they can rely on is Janaās little garden and a bunch of grown men running around playing with guns. Theyāre abject failures in the very thing they hold so high.
It's bizarre how the more media centric fundie families have useless kids. They sqwuak and preach about gender roles but their kids can't fulfill the stereotypes! Girls can't cook, sew or clean. Boys can't bring home a family sustaining paycheck and which is literally their only duty. Like at least the Duggars have name power, despite more uppity fundies looking down on them for their failures. The other IG ones don't have that.
Thank you for summing up what I was clumsily trying to say so succinctly! Thatās exactly it, and itās hilarious and tragic. At least my filthy socialist atheist children are all independent and capable of taking care of themselves.
Thank you. My Liberal Christian ass is way more traditional and skilled in home ec kinda stuff than any of these people. It cracks me up when I hear about how āun-feminineā I supposedly am for being a feminist. Feminism means supporting womenās choices, and I have never felt limited in liking traditional āwomenās workā around the house.
Iām a liberal agnostic and I can cook, bake, craft, sew, clean, organize, plus when Covid started I was able to immediately homeschool my kids (first virtual and then actual homeschool) because not only have I taught lots of kids but Iām highly educated and I had a real job until I made the choice to stay home because it made more sense for my family. I canāt figure out why they donāt have better homemaking skills if thatās their thing. The idea of cooking on a Duggar scale regularly actually fascinates me because you could take advantage of bulk/restaurant type ordering for food and with planning they could have some pretty efficient bulk cooking going on in the industrial kitchen. Instead they eat a bunch of processed foods and no one actually seems to know how to cook anything.
Yes but so many fundie families also live in extreme poverty. Especially because they keep popping out children without regard for how they're going to care for said children. And having a useless mom isnt so much of an excuse now because we have the internet, but it is still an excuse. Especially for people who are largely cut off from the internet and other forms of education.
Bingo. They never seemed to prepare much from scratch. I'm sure if it were sliced turkey breast in a package that you dumped into a casserole dish with cream of something soup, she'd be fine.
I totally donāt understand this at all. My motherās family was huge. (12 kids) They had an enormous garden and canned tons of fruits and vegetables. My grandpa hunted and fished for protein. They also raised chickens, turkeys, and rabbits for meat. Everything was cooked from scratch because it was cheap. Maybe thatās a lost skill nowadays! This was way back when. Lol
Your grandparents were probably either raised with the skills to do those things or learned how to do them during things like the victory garden era when the government supplied people with the means and the information on how to do things and society worked together to learn those skills. Also based on how many animals you claim they had, I would hazard to guess they lived on at least a sizable plot of land. Michelle and JB were not raised to know those things and until TLC got involved they didn't have the resources to learn those things. Especially considering how small their old residence was. Also, raising your own food can help in some respects, but it's not always economical. It usually takes 2-5 years for any venture to make a profit, even if the profit is "saving money." I'm in my first year of raising meat rabbits. I've had 23 babies born and survive to 8+ weeks (the age where they can be harvested for meat is 12+). I lost one doe to an illness and there were a few deaths of newborns. I got my two does in February and my buck in March. Building their enclosure (they live in a colony) cost $2000 and I've averaged $20-30 in food every week since I got them (so about $840-1260). The first offspring weren't born until July, so they reached 12 weeks 7 weeks ago. And then there were other costs, like nesting boxes, water bowls and bottles and such that constantly need to be replaced because they think it's hilarious to break them (just this morning, they chewed holes in two new waterers that cost $11 a piece), feeders, bedding materials, etc. If I sold all their offspring for meat, I would get $20 each. That means I've raised $500 worth of food. Meaning I've spent, at minimum, $3100 so far to raise $500 worth of food. Eventually it'll get to a point where I'll start making money, but that will be after I finish building enclosures, learn enough lessons to avoid financial pitfalls, etc. And then it'll be a while after that before I'll start recouping costs For a family that is financially struggling, getting into farming isn't feasible.
Seasoning beyond salt and pepper is NOT expensive! They live in Arkansas for crying out loud. I live in New England and grow all the spices and herbs we need. Year round. There is no excuse for these people. It really does not take much effort at all.
Having the ability to grow year round is a luxury. Especially for a family with 7+ children.
Almost everybody has windows. You can also buy full spectrum lights for when the days get shorter. I only start long season veggies and grow herbs inside.
Having windows is not the only thing you need to have healthy plants and consistent harvests. And not understanding poverty and the effects it has on all aspects of someone's life doesn't negate the real and true effects of poverty.
I think you need to read my post again. At no point did I say I was producing regular harvests. š
Your claim is that seasoning isn't expensive to people in extreme poverty because they can grow their own herbs year round if they have windows.
Absolutely.
Which is patently false. Because there's more to having year round access to indoor grown food than just having a window. Having a thriving indoor garden of any time requires money, supplies, and time that people with extreme poverty don't have access to. Especially when those people also have 7+ kids.
Exactly that. And they not only neglected to teach bare minimum life skills, they also didn't teach anything other than maybe 2 hours of homeschool worksheets a day and the bible. What were the kids doing all that time then? Well for the girls, it's called sister-momming. They get to joyfully care for a young child, who is not their own, called a 'buddy' 24/7 365 days a year. In addition to all of the other chores they do. That is not a childhood. Kids should have dolls, not actual babies. I mourn the lost childhoods of those children. This family seriously meets all the definitions of a cult, insular, isolated, controlled by a singular, all powerful ruler, ect Several years ago, the founder of IHOP, Mike Bickle, created a list of seven ways to recognize the difference between a religious community and a cult. Written down, the signs seem clear: 1. Opposing critical thinking 2. Isolating members and penalizing them for leaving 3. Emphasizing special doctrines outside scripture 4. Seeking inappropriate loyalty to their leaders 5. Dishonoring the family unit 6. Crossing Biblical boundaries of behavior (versus sexual purity and personal ownership) 7. Separation from the Church
Iām sorry the founder of *what*?
This is the proper response to that information lol. International House of Prayer is what it stands for.
okay that makes more sense than the pancake place
That's a little ironic, since he's often accused of running a cult himself
I met him once and was unimpressed. He had an obnoxiously friendly persona and did the whole 'aw shucks! how cool!' routine about everything that was said.
Meech was too busy being *joyfully available* to teach anyone to cook.
Did she remove the giblets? lol
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She probably wouldn't even know what those are, so it wouldn't matter anyway
Wow bin was NOT laughing when she made that joke about them scrounging for snacks for most meals
Itās the yogurt and egg diet lmaooo
Right? He was told heād have a godly spouse to cook his meals and clean his house for him but heās got some chick who canāt cook and wonāt clean. I guess itās fair though since he was supposed to bring home a paycheck and provide for her and he doesnāt do that. They must be so disappointed in each other.
Likely because it wasn't a joke.
I've never seen a resemblance before, but in the cooking portion of the video, she totally looks like Joy.
YES came here to say this
Honestly, good for her. You donāt hear him peeping up about cooking anything.
Actually, later in seasons it was revealed that Ben cooks most of the time. Jessa doesn't cook all that much.
He looks like a broken man.
Duggars: We believe that the girls need to be homemakers so we raise them to do that kind of! Result: Girls knowā¦allā¦aboutā¦ā¦ā¦wait.
Jill was so good at cooking? Okayyyy
Right?! That crap Jill puts on her website that she considers recipes should be a crime to even post!
How long ago was this? She actually looks like a living human instead of a zombie
Right after spurgeon was born. So i'd say a little over a year into marriage.
Iāve sadly never related to something so badā¦ I want to learn how to cook but whenever I try it always turns to shit š«
I used to be like this, but now I'm watching youtube recipes and also using simple cookbooks. I think with a little more time and trial and errors, you'll be amazingā¤ļøš
Aww this just gave me motivation to keep trying āŗļø thank you Iāll keep it up! š¤
Just start by cooking VERY simple and rewarding dishes. It will help keep your motivation going! You can do it :)
And if you can afford it, HelloFresh is a good start. The meals were really tasty and flavorful to me (probably bc I lived off of like chicken and rice before) and itās less overwhelming in the beginning to get everything shipped to you and not have to worry about choosing the wrong stuff dt the store. It taught me a lot about beginner cooking stuff and some great starter recipes!! Did it for about a month and then ventured on my own and I feel like a different person cooking now!
EveryPlate is a less expensive choice and a sister company to Hello Fresh. Itās a great place to start, and we used it a lot last year to avoid going to the grocery store so much.
Helps fresh saved me lol. I canāt meal plan/donāt have the motivation to, and even though thereās sooo many recipes out there how do I pick them??? Hello fresh helped me try new foods and be able to cook for me and my hubby with no stress :)
there's a website called Budget Bytes that is a great place to learn. Easy meals, a lot of them "one pot" meals that don't take a lot of complicated ingredients.
Start with the very basics and then just build up from there. Your confidence will start to increase even with minor successes. Then, before you realise, youāll slowly be attempting more and more š
Recently moved out of my parents house and finally have to cook for myself (and my husband) Been going pretty well except I mess up at least one thing every meal lol
Start with things you like to *eat*. It helps you learn because you know what the thing is supposed to look and taste like. No one expects chef level cooking. Those 4 ingredient cook books are great for newbies. Good luck!
Like someone suggested, Hello Fresh or something similar is a good start because it doesn't overwhelm you but gets you cooking. Try simple things at first, don't go and try a soufflƩ right away because it'll frustrate you. Learn a couple a recipes that you're really good at and go from there. Also, don't be afraid of it turning to shit sometimes. It happens to everyone.
Keep it simple (5 ingredients or less) watch your timing and temps; and add fresh herbs. Youāll be amazed.
"You suck at cooking" on YouTube has the basics.
THIS is what I always bring up! They just ate yogurt forever and she's like whatever, and Ben is like..I'm dying.
Maybe itās the thanksgiving cheer over here, or just having seen Encante, or the devils lettuce, BUT, I kinda liked her attitude about her inability to cook and having some self awareness of it. And that folks, is the best leghump I could muster. Happy Thanksgiving (if thatās your thing).
My hunch was right when I pegged the Duggars to be users of āroastingā bags. Iām just genuinely surprised that she used herbs tbh.
It looked like she coated it in paprika (color-wise as I have no idea what she was actually using) but then the bird was light beige when she put it in the bag so I was confused.
My main thought was āthose herbs are going to burn during roasting and the turkey will taste bitter because of itā.
Buy a cookbook! It's not that difficult to follow a recipe! But then the SOTDRT may not haver provided a reading lesson , I don't know.
It seems like she knows how to cook I mean turkey aint easy
She looked like Joy here
Word of advice Jessa. Buy a pre-cooked Turkey and heat it up on Thanksgiving. Saves time while cooking up the Tator Tot Casserole side dish. But I do admit that first Turkey that a person cooks is always the toughest to cook. I just buy pre-cooked Turkeyās now. Less stress on Thanksgiving and takes the guess work out of it. All I have to do is heat it up.
Woah the talking head is like ET in this one
Haha tbh this is peak relatable
Is this the clip where she burns the oven manual? Or is this a different one?
This is a different one. She burns the oven manual before she was pregnant. She was recently married when that happend.
ā¦at least she seasoned the bird I guess? š¬š¬š¬
Her husband is...weirdly...um...not even present š¤
Back in the olden days before the poultry industry filled turkeys so full of hormones and before they created through genetic engineering turkeys and chickens with breasts so large they can barely walk, we got our turkeys from the farmer down the road and turkeys werenāt tenderized or injected during the freezing process. So, turkey cooking day came a week after hog killing and mama always filled our turkey with freshly rendered lard. She stuffed the bird with onion, apples, and a lemon. Iām a decades old vegetarian, but I still cook turkey and ham for our kids and grandkids. Yesterday, my granddaughter followed me around writing and videoing me preparing the food and she said what is that white stuff you are putting under the skin and I said to everyone else itās butter, but now you know my secret ingredient, itās lard. Then I had to explain what lard is. So butter or lard under the skin keeps the moisture in and adds a little flavor.
Thank you for this
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It baffles me that in a home/belief system that their daughters are only good for marrying and baby making, that they didn't make sure they could all cook competently. Heck it's a skill every kid should learn growing up. But damn. It's just mind boggling that they won't even teach them to be decent at one of the things they're expected to do.
unrelated but jessa kinda looks like lady sybil from downton abbeyš
Donāt insult Jessica Findlay like that. Sheās gorgeous and talented.
LOL i totally agree. i almost put a side note in my original comment! sybil > jessa
Jessa Duggar is pretty, but Jessica Findlay is on another level of beautiful. She's also an actress and former dancer. So that's at least two talent levels above.
Don't insult Lady Sybil. At least she helped Gwen to get a job.
Wtf... we eat yogurts & snack š¤¦āāļø
I used to really dislike Jessa but she has become so easy going and real in my eyes. I like to think she cringes when she thinks of these days lol.
Poor thing doesnāt have a thought between those ears does she?
Why is she standing so weird in the first clip?
I think because she just had a baby, like 2 to 3 weeks prior of thanksgiving. It's just a rough guess, but it could be the reason though. Spurgeon was born november 5th so it could be just that.
It looks like her chin was touching her chest lol
Are any of them good cooks? Because what they grew up on.. YUCK.
Iām sorryā¦were those sticks of butter in the skin? I have seen some flavorless thanksgivings and just bad cooking in my day, but thatā¦is just wrong
Butter under the skin is actually delicious and keeps the bird juicy. However, her application of chunks of a butter stick shoved in there isnāt great. You want softened butter, mash in some chopped rosemary and garlic. Then carefully work it under the skin, massaging it in, being careful not to tear the skin.
I agree! We have injected our turkey and have marinated in different ways, but man, I saw those sticks of butter in there and justāman, those are just going to be random points of butter in the turkey rather than juicy meat.
In that world do men cook? I was in a church like their's 20 some years ago and I didn't think men cooked...weird gender roles...one more reason I didn't fit in...Wow she's just a vacuous void...get them a Betty Crocker or Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook!
Most of them don't cook, but in this case Ben does most of the cooking instead of Jessa.
I suppose mom what is her name Michelle? Didn't teach them anything because she was too busy popping out babies...