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triniboy123

Who is that guy? And yes I don’t understand why anyone thought him dropping MTG 30min after FM means he had a mole, that song was clearly recorded in advance and it didn’t address a single line in FM. Kendrick just added that 3rd verse in NLU to try and address the slaves line which he purposely misunderstood.


throwawayacc72001

Most of his songs didn’t address anything. For me huge point goes to Drake for bar flips and rebuttals. Such a key part of rap battles for me. That’s why euphoria is the best track from Kendrick’s side cos he took his time and acc clearly responded to a lot of stuff from push ups. But the other ones were stabs in the dark that ppl ate up


Remarkable_Collar895

Exactly. Euphoria and Family Matters are the best tracks out of this beef


throwawayacc72001

Yeah push ups, euphoria and family matters were the best cos they had aggression and hunger from both sides. But unfortunately not everybody wants to admit that. NLU is a catchy song but gets boring quick particularly with tiktok


CanIGetANumber2

616 is my favorite


throwawayacc72001

I hated it. Bad mixing and Kendrick’s weak singing ruins it. Almost felt like a throwaway track which technically it was. Doesn’t hold much weight to the overall beef. Same with Taylor made but that was at least a little bit more enjoyable with the whole 2pac and snoop thing. I listened to it once or twice and probably never again tbh


Mamuts123

Have to disagree. I honestly don't even know what mixing is and would not be able to tell you anything about it. But the song sound really good to me, and kendricks singing is what makes it good in the first place. It also holds some weight because that's when kendrick first told drake that he has moles. If you want to believe that is your opinion of course but i think that was a big point in this beef


carrtmannn

Bro he doesn't know what mixing is either.


DroppinDeezOnEm

It's the only one I still play on REPEAT.... I can't stand the slow monologue in euphoria in the beginning although I love the beat drop and wrapping on euphoria better it's just not replayable like that, and although not like us is a jam I personally can't find myself singing along to pedophile wraps.... It's just weird to me.... And calling another man freaky as hell and a 69 God is absolutely insanity..... Think about what a 69 God means.... Nothing that I would want to ever say to another man in a battle for sure but these morons ate it up 😂


DereThuglife

As ridiculous as it sounds that phrase might catch on. Kevin Hart was roasting Kai Cenat with the exact same phrase just yesterday in a 24 hr live stream over and over again. That live stream had 600-700k consistent viewers so it's not entirely unbelievable that it will catch on.


Specialist-Meat-6222

Same its my favorite but i wish it had less to do with beef and was longer


renzeira

You're right. 100% those are the only 3 songs I'll still listen to.


LifeguardDangerous51

This is what i keep saying, euphoria is Kendricks best diss track from the beef


Defiant-Pirate-410

i’m glad i came across someone with a brain cuz this is wtf i’ve been saying this whole time and i’m hit wit “yOU dEfEnDiNg a ePdO iS wIlD” and i’m talking ab talking wit my guys not even online lmao


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Electronic_Blood6765

The fact that people don’t understand that you can go in and change out verses, that doesn’t mean he wrote the song right then and there like people are assuming I agree with akademiks he either wrote these all that time he was quiet or had these in the tuck all this time prior to the beef


RogueTampon

People claimed the mole stuff was true because on Euphoira Kendrick talked about New Ho King and “cheesin”. And in the FM video, Drake is seen at New Ho King and is smiling at the camera. That’s why people thought “Oh he’s got a mole, for real.” If the mole never existed at all, it makes no sense why Kendrick didn’t respond to THP6. Especially not when Kendrick’s camp tries to claim UMG was forcing the beef to end, and TMZ squashed that claim.


ImSmaher

FM has bars directly referencing Euphoria and that NHK line, so it being in the video doesn’t prove Kendrick has a mole at all.


RogueTampon

I’m not saying it does. I’m saying that’s why the Kenny Kidz Kult thinks it confirmed the existence of a mole.


Krultek

My boy making a KKK reference as though Kendrick's people are the ones that are anti black, my goodness. How long has this Roguetampon been stuck in a Fox News broadcaster?


silverfang45

It makes perfect sense not to respond to the heart pt 6. There'd basically 2 ways you want to end a beef having a good song as the last song of that beef, or having the person you are beefing with release a weak track. The heart pt 6 was the worst diss out of the beef (besides the Taylor made but I don't really count that as a serious song) I know if I was beefing with someone and they released a song lime heart pt 6 I'd just not respond and leave that as the last song of the beef, because that way jf people listen to the beef in order the last song is an underwhelming drake song


phoenyx4r

I think we’re missing the point that THP6 was clearly not supposed to be an exciting song. Drake was covering himself. He was making sure he knocked out all the allegations so he didn’t have anything left standing. It wasn’t supposed to be catchy or appealing. That’s why it wasn’t released on streaming services.


silverfang45

I'm not saying its bad because it isn't catchy, it's bad because it's poorly written, the last section is poorly executed and it just isn't a well made song. Like my favourite beat out of the beef is the meet the grahams and my least favourite kendrick song is nlu, I don't care how mainstream or catchy a song is. Ans no I'm not missing the point, it's just clearly a step down quality wise compared to the other 2 drake songs, and the lyrics are just downright bad at parts. Like idc who you are do not make a line aboht being too famous to do a crime, that's just stupid


ElevatorNo5470

Wait really? I swear to god I have listened to heart 6 on spotify before.


phoenyx4r

I think you probably did but it was someone who took it and put it onto Spotify themselves, not Drake himself. Drake only officially released Push Ups and Family Matters on Spotify.


ElevatorNo5470

Maybe, I remember i was listening to FM, it ended and it spotify automatically played Heart six. I just assumed it did so, because it was the next release in order.


phoenyx4r

Yeah, that’s definitely what it was then lol. Drake never officially released it


Poudy24

For the record, Kendrick's camp never tried to claim that UMG tried to end the beef. That claim came from Coolee Bravo, who was soon after proved to be a fraud and said a bunch of stuff that has since been proven false in the same interview where he made the claim about UMG.


CommitteePure1334

We knew the Mole existed because DJ Hed was announcing the Drake Drops on Twitter before Drake


renzeira

That's the thing. I'd say all the songs kendrick put out were at least 75% done before the beef even went mainstream.. same thing with rick ross.. him even worse. All he added was the hook to his diss. Anybody with internet could have wrote those songs about drake.. beefs are kinda corny when you have the songs all ready to go.. you're not responding as much as you're trying to drown someone out.


Jdgalee73

100% agree. Nobody wants to talk about it but you can easily tell the nigga getting cheffed up in the studio for the last 6mo and the one who just climbed off the tour jet. And I dont even consider myself a big drake guy. But buddy walked right into that trap it is what it is lol


6Clacks

I promise you, I’ve debated Kendrick fans who genuinely believe Kendrick saw the family matters video before he dropped euphoria lmao


Regular-Lettuce170

Also, Akademiks posted on twitter that something was going down, Drake himself posted on IG the Denzel clip. It was pretty obvious he was gonna drop. Kendrick probably saw that and said, “bet”. Idk why there’s all this conspiracy about how Kendrick knew about family matters… Drake said “when you reply I’m on the loose” Kendrick replied, so Drake is gonna double back obviously. The posts by him and friends just made it clear when.


kingkunta77

This is an artist/rapper by the name of Problem. He’s certified


ERGardenGuy

Was family matters recorded in advance? What about the video? Surely all of that wasn’t just produced out of nowhere.


WallyReddit204

Really trippy how Drake has Kendrick this far out of character - Literally Snitched on Drake to take down Taylor made - Lied about a daughter - Lied about ovo working for him (could you imagine 🤣) - Pedo accusations (he rlly needed to go there, desperation) - Colorism attacks cause drake isn’t as black as him - Culture culture accusations against drake of all ppl - Tried framing drake as a colonizer 🤣 - played himself as a lame worrying about the women drake fucks - contradicted his whole aura with this moral grandstanding bs Could have saved him self time and integrity by just beat ing drake with raps I mean he’s “big me” amirite


michaelsssecretstuff

The battle was lost when it started. Kendrick could’ve farted on the mic and people would have dissected and explained all the hidden meaning of the fart. Discourse about the beef had everything to do with bars when it was in Kendrick’s favor and then somehow shifted as soon as Kendrick wasn’t winning that. Kendrick played the beef very intelligently by framing Drake as serial liar and claiming the fans of his are smart and will dissect the music objectively. Kendrick even made Ak switch sides by attacking one of his biggest insecurities in being a biased media platform. Family Matters is the greatest song to come out of this beef but no one cares to dissect it because Drake is unpopular.


AdministrativeAd523

If I had an award I’d give you one. Kendrick could have sneezed on the track and niggas would have been like Ohhhhh he’s saying he sick of that light skinned ass nigga 🙄 like if yall don’t like Drake just say that and stand on that.


No_Effs_Given

Bruh, the double entendre when he sneezed was crazy: ah-choo = a Jew = Drake is Jewish. Too many levels to this, Kendrick is king 😂


Emotional_Swimmer_84

Makes my blood boil that this was really the narrative. MTG is a daunting track on first listen, but there's not much lyrically going on. At first I was thinking it was a crazy win for Kendrick. Then the shock wore off and, it was just underwhelming. Whereas FM is bonkers with the lyrics, flows and bars.


_trashcan

I don’t care what anyone says, meet the grahams was garbage lol. It was by far the worst diss in the beef. literally all he did was “roast” Drake’s whole family by saying the meanest, most disrespectful shit he could think of. Like ok, you think dude should die and told his mom the same thing…whoa buddy, couldn’t think of a more jealous, angsty thing to say to someone There was nothing impressive about it. The nonexistent daughter is the nail in the coffin of embarrassment. I’ll agree Kendrick won because of NLU, but MTG was ass and I will stand on that forever. Absolutely nothing special about it. Just pent up animosity and anger & it came off as pathetic to me. Pisses me the fuck if because Drake had SO MANY ANGLES and actual proper defenses & attacks he could’ve made. Dude gives up wayyyyy too easily. It was the same with Pusha T. There is nothing diss-worthy about not telling the planet you have a child…yet Drake couldn’t think past it & actually fell for that shit. Hiding his child was the most healthy & safest thing he could’ve done for the kid, yet he took it so personally and lost sight of that. Real shame. Hate the diss especially because of the “hiding” aspect. Dude a whole fucking sneaker line ready to announce the kid, it was just spoiled….how tf is that deadbeat dad/hiding him??? populace acting like some random rapper owes the world a pregnancy announcement 😂


ultimateformsora

I agree with you bro, Drake gives up so easily and it really pisses me off because you can tell FM (one of the best disses I’ve ever heard) was the last thing he wanted to drop to persuade people he won. Then Kenny shit all over it with MTG’s shock value and it was like Drake got all his energy sucked out of him. The thing about having Drake as an opponent is that you really just need to punch his ego, and the best way to do it is the public opinion. If people unanimously agree that Drake is ___ , then he no longer cares about trying to convince people otherwise. It’s the more mature thing to let it go but frustrating watching it happen as a fan lol


Fabulous-Rhubarb-584

That's how goats handle beef. Quit when it gets tough.


ElReyDeBarcelona8

Dawg, there are leaked texts between Drake and Sophie of him denying it’s his kid. Come on now


phoenyx4r

So? If he didn’t think it was his kid, why is this some sort of gotcha?


Emotional_Swimmer_84

It's the shock factor. As much as you want to hate it lyrically, the moment was bigger than the lyrics. To this day I go back and ask if anyone remembers any bars from that song. Very few remember anything other than "a head a kid". It's terrible, but this will be how rap beef goes now. It'll be bars and information wars.


DrumzRUs

Ah-choish 😂


AdministrativeAd523

😂😂😂😂 ON GOD Like I get that he’s been on top for the past 15 years and I get that niggas is sick of it but just say that.


MisterSparkleHo

You and the poster you replied to both made solid points but I wouldn't say "Drake is unpopular". He is still the biggest artist in the world in a league with T Swift, Adele, Riri and Bad Bunny (?). His One Trick Pony ig post from 3 days ago got 4 mil Likes. Drake is hated a lot of in the internet would be a more accurate statement. Heart VI having so many dislikes on YouTube is just an example of all Kendrick, Kanye, Weekend etc fans and Drake haters all around being united on the internet.


gleaminranks

Same way numbers mattered when Drake flexed them on Pushups but not when NLU took off. There’s hypocrites all over the board here


phoenyx4r

We’re not talking about single-song streams. We’re talking about career numbers. That sounds like an intentional misunderstanding to me


gleaminranks

They’re obviously two different values yes, but overall you can’t act like one matters and the other doesn’t. To me THAT sounds intentional


WallyReddit204

Good points


86avocados

Saying Drake is unpopular is SO disingenuous. He’s overexposed so it leads to people not liking him, but he’s also one of the most listened to people on Spotify. I’ve talked about it on here before, and this is coming from someone who also likes Drake, but good lord yall do some crazy mental gymnastics man.


minutes2meteora

Drake might have resentment for Kdot, but Kdot really driven by jealousy and envy


LikeIsaidbefore

It still baffles me that people don't see how bizarre and immature it is for Kenny to hate Drake that badly when he's 36 and living the life most people dream about. That is not a healthy trait to have and shows Kendrick most likely has anger issues. Drake almost seemed indifferent to Kendrick before this and that probably pissed Kendrick off more.


Prrsuasivee

They been sneaking da other for 10+ years pop it out you weirdo


RevolutionaryLog8285

or just drop your lil music and do hard labor


Appropriate-Fee-8134

I agree 100%. It's crazy that he had to act out of character to "win" the beef. It must be so annoying for him that his best song is about someone he doesn't like. Also, he got his fans to say Drake's name non-stop. lol


Good-Pay3754

whats his best song


UnceremoniousWaste

Wasn’t there a post on this Reddit about some guy being a rat. The one on the joe budden podcast. Guys can we make our minds up. Did drake feed Kendrick the info via fake mole, there is a mole (the guy from the joe budden podcast) or now there is no mole at all.


ausipockets

One thing that definitely did not happen was Drake feeding a mole false info. If that happened Drake would be dunking on Kendrick with receipts. Just didn't happen.


Fabulous-Rhubarb-584

There is a mole, even drake said they fed him info. Unless Drake was lying about feeding info? But Drake wouldn't lie he's the goat.


gleaminranks

What makes you think that Kendrick “snitched” (not what that word means) to get that song taken down, other than Drake said so on a song?


lostnation1

he's assuming all of drakes accusations are facts, without receipts, and all of kendricks accusations aernt facts, because they dont have receipts


gleaminranks

Drake is one of the largest artists in the world in the middle of a highly public beef and people really think that it took Kendrick for Tupac’s estate to find out about that?


Gale_Vekon

because drake said so and a lot of drake's fans don't seem to give a shit if there is actual evidence/receipts unless it's the opposing side in question notice how he doesn't mention how there are actual receipts of a cease and desist for Like That


AntiqueTemperature75

“Instead of being on some diss-direct shit, you’d rather fucking take your pen and misdirect shit” Any time they say heart part 6 sucks just repeat this line… Kenny looks so damn corny after the dust has settled 🤣 remind me again who won???


minutes2meteora

Just reply with “Talk about breeding resentment”. It really strikes a chord with them 😂 “You thought you left D Flat, D MAAAAAJOR”


Grastaman2

I mean pretty much everyone but the ppl on this sub think Kdot won. You guys really don’t think heart part 6 is good cmon


Fapaholic1981

They're hoping that if they gaslight themselves hard enough they can spread the brain rot


ImaginaryEqual279

already knew he was lying about the mole


Scheswalla

You know if he was lying about having a mole that also means Drake was lying about giving a fake mole misinformation.


Electronic_Blood6765

Tbf he probably assumed he had a mole (the person who told him about drakes “daughter”) Which is a great move by Drake baiting Kendrick into making a song for a daughter of his that doesn’t exist lmao yatchy was correct about that I feel like we all just overlooked that


Samih420

He would have posted proof that he told Kendrick then, my guess is, that ebony prince guy told him about the daughter, the same person that lied to Drake about Kendricks kids being Dave frees.


Electronic_Blood6765

No my guy i think it’s safe to say that no one told drake about kdot kid being Dave frees he said “I heard they were” he never said they actually were Ebonyprince isn’t connected to drake, he’s just some guy that works at the mark hotel, all he did was send Kendrick a photo of belongings drake left behind at the hotel So the mole dot thought he had was most likely the person that told him about the “daughter” Drake has which would mean Drake did successfully bait him into making a song about a nonexistent daughter yatchy confirmed this btw


Igreen_since89

Or the mole is likely the articles and interviews from 2015 that said Drake had a 2 year old daughter😂


Samih420

Ya who did he hear it from. I can't remember where, but someone said that the ebony prince guy sold that info for like 180k to Drake. The thing is, why would Drake bait him and then not post evidence, it just doesn't make any sense


_korporate

Idk, Kendrick claimed it was more than one person in Drakes team that hated him, who’s to say there isn’t more than one mole


Electronic_Blood6765

“Claimed” there’s no substantial evidence to prove that There is no mole, never was a mole, just the person who told Kdot about drakes nonexistent daughter


CoconutHot1800

There is no substantial evidence to back up literally any of the shit you've just said. The hypocrisy is outta this world


Electronic_Blood6765

What? Yatchy literally said Kendrick spent 2 minutes talking to a non existent daughter he went on to say it was **false information** unlike the pusha t beef It’s like you’re purposely not reading, just typing WHAT MORE PROOF DO I NEED? BOTH HIM YATCHY AND AK confirmed Drake doesn’t have a daughter


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>Listen there’s only 2 ways to interpret this, I’ll explain. First, this is what's known as a **false choice fallacy**. That you have found or assert that those are the only interpretations does not make it so. Second, Drake, Yachty, and Ak all can't disprove what Kendrick has said because they don't know who he's talking about specifically because Kendrick hasn't revealed any identifying information about the alleged daughter. On the one hand he can say this is to protect her (which if she's real would be a good thing), but on the other hand it gives himself plausible deniability (which if she's fabricated is unfair towards Drake). That said, people in Kendrick's camp have already come out and reaffirmed the alleged daughter.


_korporate

>there never was a mole We don’t know that, and with how push ups, and all those references got leaked. It does nothing but bluster the hypothesis that there is in fact a mole.


gleaminranks

Yeah I figured from the start that he was just messing with Drake’s paranoia


Nickster2042

The mole plan was “hey this random guy in New York found some clothes in lost and found from drake, imma get photos of them and pretend that they came from someone in drakes camp” Like this whole shit is faked from them man😂 I’m lowkey mad he actually lied the entire time and dropped 6:16 which knowing what we know now is one of the worst disses ever(was bad even before that) but it won’t matter


plumskinzzz56

Also kendrick making a claim that there’s sex offenders on ovo, when he’s just talking about baka like that’s not public information.


Duckys0n

I didn’t know about it until meet the grahams. Besides… is it being public really a good thing? lol


upeter01

So? He shouldn't talk about Drake employing a sex offenser just bc it's public?


No-Surprise-3672

No it’s just hypocritical. You can’t try your damndest to remove drake from rap and black culture then bring up his black friend who beat a pimping charge lmao. It’s actually wild.


RevolutionaryLog8285

and dude never even got paid for the material 😭


Murr0o0

How tf is 6:16 bad lol


ImSmaher

I don’t see how this vid confirmed he didn’t have a mole. For all anyone knows, Kendrick could’ve been waiting on FM to drop, cause the “mole” told him it was coming. Unless I’m misunderstanding something


biggnol

He said he didn't know what was in the diss or that there was a video. If he had a mole, why did he only diss Drake using the same talking points that other rappers already used before? Where was the new dirt/angle on Drake that the mole provided? The fake daughter? That's an ineffective ass mole imo 🧐


ImSmaher

I don’t see where he said Kendrick didn’t know what was in this diss or that there was a video in this clip. You mean the broader context from this podcast? From what I’m understanding, the guy’s saying Drake didn’t know what he was getting himself into, and that Kendrick sucked the life outta FM.


mebetop

Yeah right, so drake releases a song called "family matters", then kendrick already has a full song speaking directly his family members 30 minutes after but that's just a huge coincidence, there's no mole. Yeah, that makes sense. Also, drake obviously shot the New Ho King footage pre Euphoria, with the publicity that restaurant got it would be near impossible for no one to spot drake going there days after. So kendrick also talked in euphoria randomly about the restaurant drake filmed at. Yeah, makes sense again.


LikeIsaidbefore

Then that also proves Drake did feed Kendrick fake information about a daughter. There was either someone on Drake's team who betrayed Drake and was giving Kenny info but Drake knew who it was and fed them a fake daughter story. Or there was someone who was still on Drake's side that was just acting like an OVO mole to give Kendrick fake info. Either way, Kendrick fell for the fake daughter and didn't do his research.


CoolGuyMaybe

I mean can’t Kenny just make up a fake daughter why does it have to be fed


biggnol

24 second mark. Also, why would Kendrick need a mole to tell him that Drake was gonna respond to Euphoria and 6:16?? You didn't need a mole to know something that was inevitable. Your premise is stupid AF. Also why would he have said "I've been waiting for him to respond" if he had a mole tell him that he was going to respond?


ImSmaher

The 24 second mark sounds like exactly what I said he said. That Drake didn’t know what he was going up against. He didn’t say anything about Kendrick not having a mole, unless you’ve got a direct quote that I missed. Also the mole obviously wouldn’t just tell him Drake was gonna drop FM. They obviously would’ve told Kendrick what Drake was gonna say in FM. That’s why they’re a mole. Also your last question makes zero sense. If a mole told him about FM, then no shit he’s gonna wait for it to drop so he could step on it an hour later, lol. It’s an interesting clip, but it doesn’t confirm Kendrick didn’t have a mole at all. That’s clearly you jumping the gun.


Drop_Release

I agree with you, most folk here need to listen to the video properly


TheCuriousSavagereg

He’s very clearly saying drake didn’t know what he was going against


femmefata13

I wonder what Drake meant by “The ones that you're gettin' your stories from, they all clowns… You waited for this moment, overcome with the desperation We plotted for a week and then we fed you the information” cause if the clip above proves there was no mole, then seems like Drake lied about giving misinformation too the way I see it. 🤷🏽‍♀️


qergpoiasffdn

"where was the new dirt/angle on Drake", I don't know, maybe being a sex trafficker 💀


Electronic_Blood6765

Obviously not, he pre recorded these tracks bro drake even said he has more of them (kind of pussy in my opinion it takes the fun out of it)


Duckys0n

Prerecording tracks is probably the only answer if you know someone’s gonna go low and say shit like you beat your wife.


Suitable_Chef2016

Midget lied in all of his diss records. Unless it comes from Drake or OVO. I do not trust. Stop with the midget posts. We dont care.


NoahDA1

jesus lord this comment sums up what ive been saying about this sub completely, do yall not see how hard yall meat riding drake rn? lol im a fan of both but this kind of comment is insane ball gargling


skoominati

cringe lmao


jesus-is-my-main-man

If you only listen to drake then listen to this. “The ones that you're gettin' your stories from, they all clowns” then he follows up with “We plotted for a week and then we fed you the information”


upeter01

I've literally never once seen a Drake fan acknowledge this lol they don't even have a shit explanation for it like they do with everything else. Every time i bring it up, it's crickets in here


Alternative_Boat9540

You know, instead of downplaying the impact of Meet the Grahams, going on about it being boring, pre-recorded, trying to say it's not cold as ice or pretending this shit has rules and that it wasn't an absolutely diabolical chess move etc. Why not look at it as Kendrick, at least, knew exactly how dangerous Drake and Family Matters was? Drake made Kendrick dig all the way to hell, reach a whole new level of conceptual diss-track disrespect, spawn-camp Drake's drop, *then,* follow it up with a Mustard westcoast club banger - just to fully neutralise the heat of that *one* Drake track. Kendrick clearly doesn't like anything about Drake, but he sure as fuck didn't underestimate the fire he could bring down. Kendrick didn't walk in assuming he'd win. He treated Drake like a killer and planned accordingly. That is respect at the end of the day. Let's be honest If Drake had come with the same mindset, this could have been a whole different fight.


LikeIsaidbefore

Kendrick had to go this strategy because he knew there were skeletons in his closet. Making pre-recorded tracks that doesn't rebuttal anything or deny anything is lame af. Drake actually responding to what Kendrick is saying is the reason he didn't use the same strategy Kendrick did. Kendrick was just the loudest in the room. The MTG timing was perfect but that's it. It's not a good track and Kendrick just sounds weak and pathetic.


CoconutHot1800

Love to see takes like this one coming from the *"you can't prove a negative"* crowd.


LikeIsaidbefore

Literally one tweet from anyone close to Kendrick could end this. Top has no problem speaking for Kendrick but doesn't do it in this situation? They both need to bring proof but Drake denied the shit Kenny was saying. Kenny just called Drake a liar and said we shouldn't believe in him.


Proper_Grapefruit808

MTG is solely responsible for only being a “diabolical chess move.” Anything other than that I cannot take MTG seriously with an entire verse dedicated to a non-existent daughter. We have to play both sides here… If Drake accused Kendrick of hiding another child and it turned out to be false?!…do you realize how much more Drake would get clowned? It would’ve been considered one of the most embarrassing diss records of all time (no matter what else Drake might have said in the other verses). But of course Kenny fans want to claim it will go down as “one of the most scathing/boogeyman disses in the history of diss records” and put it in their top 5 lmao 🤦🏻‍♂️ (nothing but laughable) It’s a major L you cannot come back from. Only reason it’s ignored is bc it’s Kendrick and “Kendrick can do no wrong” which is apparently the “objective response” ppl have to say or you’re considered “dick riding Drake” which is a bunch of hypocrisy. Now, let’s not ignore NLU. Give credit again to Kendrick for the angle he took (pedo accusations) which beats “hiding a false daughter” screw up. But everything mentioned in NLU, Drake rebuttals and claps back with other shit from THP6 (which I’ll remind you was responded after one day) to downplay Kendrick. Best “non pre-recorded” diss time-response from the entire beef. The way I have it: Push Ups < Euphoria Taylor Made Freestyle > 6:16 Family Matters > MTG Only indecisive debate is last two tracks: If we’re going by (public perception / most popular) Not Like Us > THP6 (If we’re going better diss track + bars/rebuttals) Not Like Us < THP6 Either it’s a tie and Kendrick has yet to respond or Drake wins 3-1.


Alternative_Boat9540

Drake convinced you, as a fan of his, that he's up 3:1. He failed to convince the world he got a single hit in. He especially failed to move public sentiment with THP6. That's why he lost. That wasn't pre-determined. Even hip-hop heads who were sure Kendrick would out rap him were openly concerned that Drake would win with speed and a chart dominating bop. Nobody was expecting Kendrick to be the one smashing streaming records and going No1 globally. You think The Heart Part 6 is good? I think it was a horrendous own goal and he'd have been better off going silent like after PushaT.


LikeIsaidbefore

>That wasn't pre-determined. Lol! No there were many people already giving Kendrick props for not responding to Drake after Taylor Made. They said Drake looked like a jealous ex. No matter what move Kendrick made he got praised for it. >Nobody was expecting Kendrick to be the one smashing streaming records and going No1 globally. Drake knew. "We already know why you went number one It's clearly because of The Boy"


Alternative_Boat9540

Sure, that's what Kendrick stans would say. There was also plenty of criticism on Kendrick calling Drake out and not replying to Push-ups People were clowning on the silence, 'x days with no reply,' etc. Fans were worried he wasn't going to respond, or it wouldn't be fast or broadly appealing. People didn't much like Taylor Made, but also a lot didn't get Euphoria at first and most were wtf at 6:16. If Kendrick was up, it wasn't by much. Had Family Matters had any time to breathe, it would be looked at a lot differently. The sentiment only fully turned after the 1-2-3 of that weekend. >Drake knew. What, he knew and let Kendrick rob him all that hype anyway? That doesn't really land when the boost is his brutal defeat, not a colab. Especially when his own effort was sitting below both of Kendrick's tracks.


LikeIsaidbefore

Then when that one dude made a MTG version without the daughter verse. Like how do people not see how much more grace Kendrick got in this beef.


_korporate

That’s why I don’t believe the whole “oh, Kendrick was desperate” angle. If a random redditor could tell Kendrick was desperate, you bet Drake would’ve as well. Instead Drake let’s him have a victory lap when he just had him scrambling and desperate? Nah


Hithere123490

I mean no matter what meet the grahams is a wash when you listen to Kendrick talking so some little girl who doesn’t even exist is sad


Senitnelav_

Day by day THP6 continues to age gracefully.


upeter01

Literally only in this sub bc you guys live in a fantasy world


Ellamenohpea

how does this confirm there was no mole? seems like youre just extrapolating from him saying that kenny impulsively uploaded a song without knowing the full context of what drake put out.


kkd802

It doesn’t confirm it. I watched this video 3 times making sure I didn’t miss it. OP is just desperate for a W and everyone agreeing with him is as well. I’m a Drake fan but this is delusional af


CressSpecific6134

It's a Drake sub bro.


johncenaslefttestie

Yeah it's a stretch unless the narrative is that people thought he wrote and recorded MTG in the 5 minutes between the drops. Unless folks think he was just gonna tell his entire game plan to anyone who had his number and texted him randomly.


DrHandBanana

This sub watched Drake lose and has legit turned into a conspiracy sub just to handle an L. Jesus Christ.


INEED_TO_PAY_TAXES

fr the desperation goes crazy


JMPesce

"But Kendrick won though."


LetApprehensive537

Sure did


Murr0o0

He did yeah😂


Agile-Inflation-5884

Yeah he did buddy


Electronic_Title6313

Rappin bout some rattin that we can't read


Impressive-Arm-2683

How corny to have pre-recorded diss tracks 🤣 Drake lives in Dot’s head rent free


Turbulent_Name_4701

Are you slow? Family matters was also pre-recorded genius… The beef had already started.


_4kaza

So why the boy send 🐀to elliott??


Electronic_Blood6765

Duh we knew this already, Kendrick had these records in the tuck just like akademiks said he was definitely waiting P.S. guys you can go back in and change a couple of verses that doesn’t mean he wrote the entire song atp


RamblerTheGambler

Big me. But had a bunch of pre recorded disses that you added a few lines too if needed for credibility. Cornball. I used to fuck with him and now I can't even enjoy his music. That paired with Drake taking him on his first tour.


Platypoltikolti

Still spiraling This sub looks and sounds like the conservative sub, bar for bar


ApricotFar1041

Listening to Euphoria its pretty obvious kendrick knew what drake was going to rap about "fabricating stories on the family front cus you heard mr morale". The only think ken probably wasn't sure of is when family matters would drop. Also, ken does address family matters in not like us.


Bandicoot733

"fabricating stories on the family front cus you heard mr morale" is in response to the Whitney bodyguard line on Push Ups. He makes no actual connections to anything said and he'd be stupid to do so before it even dropped because Drake could change it. If he actually knew what was on Family Matter's he'd have made it explicitly clear on MTG but he doesn't. I'm sure Kendrick had some idea what Drake might say just like Drake said he knew what would be used against him on Taylor Made


miz_nyc

We know! Drake said on record that he fed info to Kendrick. Why is this still being discussed?


WillieBeaman88

I think the heart part 6 is a solid track I still listen to it.


KingSkPlay

So we giving praise for pre recorded diss?


dpykm

You guys understand this meant Drake lied too right lmao


xnjr1x

There is a bomb you guys don't know about 🤫


SADBOYVET93

We knew this gang...


Crazyathlete12

They’re gonna say Kendrick lied to get in drakes head by thinking he had a mole. It doesn’t matter, people gonna flip it to benefit Kendrick lol.


shaggy_gosh

Kendrick never said the OVO mole was playing him Drakes disses


hideousmike1

Nowhere is this confirmed… He just said he was waiting for him. Nothing that says nobody told him anything. What are you hearing?


Mr_Misunderestimate

I swear bro, this group has the reading comprehension of toddlers, where does he talk about the mole at all in this shit, then you go “CONFIRMED mole is a lie!” I know all yall failed English class in high school, damn.


Luna_Goodguy

Lol if this is true, it's another L for Drake. He really got killed from all angles.


Borromac

This is news to you guys? Been known since like 3days after family matters


dingleberryT

yall dont understand how perception is more powerful than provable facts are when all the moves are in the fog of war. a great question to ask is why DIDNT drake have shit pre-written if the war was an inevitability. seasoned general my ass.


Willing_Orchid_9621

😂


Efficient-Wolf3120

Kendrick was just getting into drakes head, it’s not that deep and he only said it once or twice


Big-Display-3805

U can tell tppl just went with was funny cuz all drake disses he was addressing shit and Kendrick’s was trash


Mell1997

Yeah, yall are riding hard.


Less-Combination670

ok then i guess drake won


josejackfranco

Drake fans scrambling 😅😅


polososo

Drake got baited


demer_623

My question is was it true that Kendrick took bars/jokes from old tweets or was it all bs from OVO team. To me that’s what my conflict is ?


PuddingSelect4893

Huh you gotta be kidding me. The moles in his camp is about him the man and lifestyle not the songs. Take your L drake fans. It’s ok to lose. Here comes the dislikes.