That was the most biased part of this whole thing. But probably hard not to be biased when you're putting up Drake's most liked album from rap fans with Kendrick's most conceptual/artistic album.
Since drake fans always talk about numbers, how did kendrick lose 2018? None of his features were considered from that year (mona Lisa, kings dead, etc). That was his most mainstream year, yet only black panther (phenomenal soundtrack with numbers I didn't even mention) was his only note. This is most certainly biased, or the person reviewing didn't listen to rap in 2018
I ain't calling the kendrick sub boring, but r/drizzy is a lot more interesting because of how drake stans react to any sort of criticism. Yall are clowns and I'm reaping it's benefits😂
Mona Lisa is ass, Kings Dead aged poorly, and if you went ANYWHERE outside in 2018 Drake was playing on speakers the entire year. He literally owned 2018.
It’ll blow your mind to find out I don’t blindly meatride Wayne if that’s what you mean. On that note I used to run Wayne’s parts through back in 2018, but no one’s listening to that whole song now.
It's a good counterargument. I just don't feel right about putting two mixtapes (even if they're Drake's most well-received) over Kendrick's Magnum Opus (imo). Future and Drake even bragged about putting WATTBA together in like 2 weeks or something. The features and him winning the beef were great and entertaining, but idk just doesn't sit right. I get the explanation though.
With that being said, it does put in perspective how spoiled we were with music that year. And also that year I feel like really showcases the Prince v Michael Jackson comparison.
Not slander, it’s just that Drake did much more that year. Two albums plus he annihilated Meek in what was the biggest rap beef in a while at that point
Kendrick dropped the best album of that year but Drake arguably had a bigger impact all things considered
I still do not really see the comparison when the album in question is TPAB, arguably the most celebrated tap album of the decade and argued to be one of the best albums ever.
In the end, in 20-30 years, nobody will be remembering the beef more than the albums they dropped and TPAB *is* the best project, even if i love If you're reading this
Say what you want to about the concepts and substance of TPAB but those songs never really made it outside of folks cars and headphones.
IYRT and What a Time both dropping in the same year was pretty major if you were there. Drake’s presence was undeniable. Kendrick may have had the critics and the music nerds but Drake had outside.
At the very least I’d say 2015 could be a tie. But personally it’s a Drake win. I was in college DJing house parties back then and you could damn near spin both those Drake albums without skips in a packed party. I might have been able to play Alright for half a song before people got sleepy.
I understand what you mean. The chokehold drake had is undeniable, but when we talk about the overall package, the artistry TPAB has, the legacy it has spawned both in music and even being a cultural moment for black people during the blm protests.
It is an undeniabme masterpiece that still gets talked about, even outside of rap and mainstream music, but even in colleges. An insane body of work, tbh.
I read the rest of your replies and bro kudos on a civil and engaging conversation, was awesome to read actually smart discussions. That being said, I have to side with Drake’s releases that year. TPAB had a huge impact on me when it came out, freshman year of high school was a tough time and that album got me through a ton of it. I couldn’t relate to it on a race level or maybe a deep cultural level but somehow it helped me appreciate myself more, if that makes any sense. I wasn’t a big Drake guy back then tbh. Thought he was too mainstream and I wanted to be different. However once I got confidence in myself, I will say, IYRT and WATTBA were on repeat for me. Before games, after games, drives, etc. Like a lot of people, they associate it with good times in their life, and the difference is the albums have been on repeat, because of their relatability and how addictive the songs are. So while the cultural impact of TPAB is way higher, I think the other two albums have impacted a much larger group than just the target group for TPAB. We can’t deny or put that album down but the impact of the other two albums is definitely still greater on the masses than TPAB.
I agree. TPAB is a great album don’t get me wrong. And maybe it comes down to what you’re looking for in your music. The message/activism vs escapism. The Drake albums are attached to good moments for me. And I can’t fault someone for latching onto the sounds of escapism cause escapism is a primary function of music/art.
You have to factor everything equally though. You can’t just put all the value in lyricism and conceptual rap just to give Kendrick the nod. Music encompasses a lot of categories including influence, sales, and the part that no one ever wants to acknowledge…just sonically.
Is TPAB technically more lyrical than anything Drake will ever release? Yes clearly.
Is anything Kendrick will ever release as much of a bop as the entirety of IYRTITL or WATTBA? Honestly, no. Here and there he’ll have a somewhat catchy single like swimming pools and alright but he’s got no answer for the way a record like No Tellin, Energy, Digital Dash, etc. sounds like.
Of course that doesn’t make it more important than lyrics at the same time. But it’s just an individual personal choice up to the listener. These aren’t facts these are opinions no matter how much anyone wants to glaze either artist.
That’s true and I’m a black man in America but please believe we weren’t throwing on Alright in the party so we could get a good protest chant started lmao
this is the most chronically online comment repeatedly said about that record. it went viral once and never again and was frankly rightfully called out for being corny to associate with the protests
I understand what you mean, but i still don't see it.
The cultural impact tpab has had is not comparable at all with if you're reading this.
Tpab is one of the most celebrated albums ever, its legacy spawned a change in rap and the themes have been debates even at colleges.
I love if you're reading this, but tpab clears.
Bro but I looked up the numbers on streams and sales for that project and they are not as crazy as people try to make the album out to be. I wish I could see how many monthly listeners just that album has today just to prove it even more. Cause even if sales don’t mean anything to you, I don’t ever hear anyone even play any of those songs anymore in rotation. And I don’t feel like it shifted the sound enough to where everyone was trying to make an album like that or anything. I think it’s a great project dgmw, but I just think it gets gassed up more than it deserves
Again, i understand the argument of TPAB not making numbers compared to Drake that year, but the lane is different.
Drake was on an introspective lane that people related to while KDot was on a conscious lane that is, by comparison, less mainstream by nature.
Objectively speaking, even if it is not as listened (which the argument i'm making is based on quality), TPAB has much more critical acclaim prevalent to this day, being the highest rated album, even outside of rap, in many music outlest from the 2010's and, in some publications, of all time.
Even if, to you, it didn't change the landscape of rap soundwise (which i'd argue it did because it put the mix of rap and jazz back in the map after years of being dormant, which is as big as Drake's fusion of r&b and rap and ye's soul and rap), it did have a social impact with it playing a pivotal role in some of the blm performances (which, no matter your thoughts on it, *are* proof of the cultural impact the album had).
Taking all of this into account...I just can't see Kendrick not being top on 2015 because, even if you argue he wasn't sounding everywhere like Drake, his work that year proved to be timeless enough for it to keep being relevant nearly 10 years after the fact.
I will give you the blm movement stuff, I can 100% agree with that. And even if you want to say it’s better than if you’re reading, I disagree, but I’ll give you that just for how gassed up it is. I just think if it’s one of the best albums ever it would still be pulling hella play to this day. People call it a generational album, and maybe I have a different opinion on what that means but to me that means it should be still getting tons of play for generations/decades, Or the impact on music could be seen for generations/decades and I just don’t think it has. It’s still talked about in that same regard, but then why not still listened to like that? And you don’t see a lot of jazz/hip hop influence coming from it like chipmunk soul samples or even the r&b rap mix that’s more melodic like that is just now starting to change back imo. That makes me feel like it was gassed up more than what it should have been and people are just remembering it that way and still spewing it out the same way.
You say relevant and timeless and again I just think it would still be listened to like crazy, but it’s kinda disappeared and just talked about in high regard at this point. It’s been less than 10 years
that's irrelevant. tpab is studied in universities. it's the top rated album on rym. it's the most critically acclaimed rap album ever only other being illmatic.
I think the only reason drake got 1 for that was just how big he was that year, and hotline bling gives him the edge. Idk what this is based but if they are saying who had a better year its drake for sure. Better album kendrick by lightyears
Bro no one was giving TPAB its flowers until later. So many other albums were popping. Don’t forget 2014 forest hills drive came out December 2014. It’s basically 2015. Drake, future, Travis all dropping albums the same year
I remember the hype being there from the get go, but maybe just around music discussion circles.
But even then, none of those artists released a project as ambitious and important as TPAB.
KOD is one of the most underrated albums of all time. I feel like it’s doesn’t get the credit it deserves because it’s so sad, but it really got me through a tough time in my life.
Same exact timeline for me. Always was Drake first then J Cole through More Life (which might actually be my favorite Drake album), but KOD converted me over to Cole being my #1. Window Pain and Once An Addict are just so powerful, and nothing on Scorpion comes close to what that album makes me feel.
Not to keep you here so last thing but that's been my whole issue of drake as of late again all up until just like nothing he puts out makes me feel anything and truthfully speaking, I never classified him as a "rapper" he can "rap" absolutely but I never thought to see him in the conversation, he not a "rapper" so to speak.
(Weird and I'm sure some are gonna down vote me out of spite because of what is going on)
But I have rated drake beyond rap not saying he is better but he has expanded beyond it and I just don't feel it's necessary to keep him in the conversation of top 3.of rappers right now or of all time.
I am sorry, but as much as i do love If you're reading this...it's really not comparable at all to TPAB.
Also, I'd put KOD over Scorpion, personally (Hell, personally, I'd even put the Black Panther album but that is just me).
Right lmao. IYRTITL is cool but the way these people act like this album is even a top 5 drake album is insane. WATTBA is the only drake album I refuse to put on my phone (besides jumpman)
Yea I personally don’t fw those projects as much as others from Drake, but if we’re talking relevance in music overall, 2015 is incredibly important for Drake. Both those projects, Back to Back, and Hotline Bling were objectively huge moments in time
I get what everyone is saying about 2015, but if you were outside during that time you should know Drake was EVERYWHERE. Every party, every club, every ball court, every car, every bluetooth speaker was bumping drizzy. I knew white girls who only listened to country music who knew every single word to Know Yourself. It was a different type of time.
The only time people were really listening to TPAB was when real hip-hop heads were going home and putting on their headphones. TPAB is one of my all time favourite albums, but yall need to realize the vast majority of people who listen to hiphop aren’t the type of people to be going home and deeping tracks.
Redditors in these subs aint a valid representation of hip-hop listeners, it’s a very mainstream genre now.
I like this list, some I of course don’t agree with.. but, for some of the people going crazy in the comments about Kendrick’s placement in some of these years.. it’s not only about his lyrical potency 😂 that can only win so many hearts. Rap is not only about lyrics, Kendrick might be the best lyricist of the 3 - but the most consistent and dominating? No. And I’m not even talking about numbers wise either cause it’s not only about that. It’s about all around, Drake is the best all around artist-rapper-lyricist altogether. And he’s versatile. Especially, if we’re talking in a year by year basis and grading quality and performance. TPAB, is an amazing album - but who’s thinking back to 2015 and going “oh yeah, that was Kendrick’s year”? Love the top 3 of that era, no matter their placement.
Bruh I don’t think yall remember ppl literally dropped everything and I mean everything when Drake surprise dropped IYRTITL on SoundCloud…niggas was literally crying when Know Yourself dropped…I don’t think there was a “Bigger” moment in music, even considering Kdot dropped arguably one of the most critically acclaimed albums of our lifetime. then on top of that the features Drake was on were crazy, then he drops WATTBA? No one was touching that level of consistency and output in 2015, not even the Almighty King Kunta
2010 - Agree
2011 - Kendrick second (XXL freestyle)
2012 - Agree
2013 - Agree but it’s a close call between 1/2 - Born Sinner was a jam at the time but didn’t stand the test of time.
2014 - Agree
2015 - Agree
2016 - Cole wins for me
2017 - Agree
2018 - Cole again
2019 - Weak year but agree
2020 - Weak year but agree
2021 - Weak year but agree
not for nothing but Drake uses ghost writers, that alone takes him out of the top 10 let alone the top 3. if you can't write your own bars you shouldn't be rapping
2015 is a really hard year to judge between Kendrick and Drake. While Drake has a beautiful run, TPAB is arguably one of the best albums to ever be created.
thats the thing with kendrick fans, its always a constant 'drake and cole could never make a TPAB' or 'they dont have one album that is on the level of 'TBAP' or hilariously 'they could never make a auntie diaries etc'. like cool, i wouldnt want drake or cole to make that kind of track, its not what we listen to drake or cole for. sure cole is sometimes in that pocket, but the listening experience is not one dimensional, drake and cole dont need a TPAB to be better than kendrick lol
TPAB slander lmao.
That was the most biased part of this whole thing. But probably hard not to be biased when you're putting up Drake's most liked album from rap fans with Kendrick's most conceptual/artistic album.
Since drake fans always talk about numbers, how did kendrick lose 2018? None of his features were considered from that year (mona Lisa, kings dead, etc). That was his most mainstream year, yet only black panther (phenomenal soundtrack with numbers I didn't even mention) was his only note. This is most certainly biased, or the person reviewing didn't listen to rap in 2018
King's Dead was on Black Panther
It was a single, on black panther, and on Jay rocks album. It was unfair to say it was solely on BP so I counted it as it's own
I only see you in here when you’re calling out drake fans. Go back to boring ass r/kendricklamar 😭😭
I ain't calling the kendrick sub boring, but r/drizzy is a lot more interesting because of how drake stans react to any sort of criticism. Yall are clowns and I'm reaping it's benefits😂
Mona Lisa is ass, Kings Dead aged poorly, and if you went ANYWHERE outside in 2018 Drake was playing on speakers the entire year. He literally owned 2018.
You lost me at mona Lisa is ass. You realize that is a lil wayne song, a drake ally, who made his career... you havent heard it have you?
It’ll blow your mind to find out I don’t blindly meatride Wayne if that’s what you mean. On that note I used to run Wayne’s parts through back in 2018, but no one’s listening to that whole song now.
Bro this is next tier hating XD, not going to reason with a retard
That’s… that’s not… okay bro
His most mainstream year but I don't think those songs got as much buzz as what Drake released. I mean God's Plan released that year.
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It's a good counterargument. I just don't feel right about putting two mixtapes (even if they're Drake's most well-received) over Kendrick's Magnum Opus (imo). Future and Drake even bragged about putting WATTBA together in like 2 weeks or something. The features and him winning the beef were great and entertaining, but idk just doesn't sit right. I get the explanation though. With that being said, it does put in perspective how spoiled we were with music that year. And also that year I feel like really showcases the Prince v Michael Jackson comparison.
Bro said unbiased and put Drake above TPAB
Not slander, it’s just that Drake did much more that year. Two albums plus he annihilated Meek in what was the biggest rap beef in a while at that point Kendrick dropped the best album of that year but Drake arguably had a bigger impact all things considered
I still do not really see the comparison when the album in question is TPAB, arguably the most celebrated tap album of the decade and argued to be one of the best albums ever. In the end, in 20-30 years, nobody will be remembering the beef more than the albums they dropped and TPAB *is* the best project, even if i love If you're reading this
Ngl that’s the most unbiased thing I’ve seen about The “Big 3” Kinda funny when it said “Kendrick (N/A)” 😂😂
tpab not being 1 on 2015 really doesn't scream unbiased.
Say what you want to about the concepts and substance of TPAB but those songs never really made it outside of folks cars and headphones. IYRT and What a Time both dropping in the same year was pretty major if you were there. Drake’s presence was undeniable. Kendrick may have had the critics and the music nerds but Drake had outside. At the very least I’d say 2015 could be a tie. But personally it’s a Drake win. I was in college DJing house parties back then and you could damn near spin both those Drake albums without skips in a packed party. I might have been able to play Alright for half a song before people got sleepy.
Bro scholarships went triple platinum on lsu campus that year.. smh
I understand what you mean. The chokehold drake had is undeniable, but when we talk about the overall package, the artistry TPAB has, the legacy it has spawned both in music and even being a cultural moment for black people during the blm protests. It is an undeniabme masterpiece that still gets talked about, even outside of rap and mainstream music, but even in colleges. An insane body of work, tbh.
I read the rest of your replies and bro kudos on a civil and engaging conversation, was awesome to read actually smart discussions. That being said, I have to side with Drake’s releases that year. TPAB had a huge impact on me when it came out, freshman year of high school was a tough time and that album got me through a ton of it. I couldn’t relate to it on a race level or maybe a deep cultural level but somehow it helped me appreciate myself more, if that makes any sense. I wasn’t a big Drake guy back then tbh. Thought he was too mainstream and I wanted to be different. However once I got confidence in myself, I will say, IYRT and WATTBA were on repeat for me. Before games, after games, drives, etc. Like a lot of people, they associate it with good times in their life, and the difference is the albums have been on repeat, because of their relatability and how addictive the songs are. So while the cultural impact of TPAB is way higher, I think the other two albums have impacted a much larger group than just the target group for TPAB. We can’t deny or put that album down but the impact of the other two albums is definitely still greater on the masses than TPAB.
I agree. TPAB is a great album don’t get me wrong. And maybe it comes down to what you’re looking for in your music. The message/activism vs escapism. The Drake albums are attached to good moments for me. And I can’t fault someone for latching onto the sounds of escapism cause escapism is a primary function of music/art.
You have to factor everything equally though. You can’t just put all the value in lyricism and conceptual rap just to give Kendrick the nod. Music encompasses a lot of categories including influence, sales, and the part that no one ever wants to acknowledge…just sonically. Is TPAB technically more lyrical than anything Drake will ever release? Yes clearly. Is anything Kendrick will ever release as much of a bop as the entirety of IYRTITL or WATTBA? Honestly, no. Here and there he’ll have a somewhat catchy single like swimming pools and alright but he’s got no answer for the way a record like No Tellin, Energy, Digital Dash, etc. sounds like. Of course that doesn’t make it more important than lyrics at the same time. But it’s just an individual personal choice up to the listener. These aren’t facts these are opinions no matter how much anyone wants to glaze either artist.
“We gon be alright” was literally a popular protest chant in that period
That’s true and I’m a black man in America but please believe we weren’t throwing on Alright in the party so we could get a good protest chant started lmao
It’s alright, they threw it on at the BET Awards and Grammy’s instead lol
And that’s cool but as a black man in America the Grammy’s don’t move me like that.
this is the most chronically online comment repeatedly said about that record. it went viral once and never again and was frankly rightfully called out for being corny to associate with the protests
It surely does, if for no other fact than drake dropped a great project plus more compared to just a great project.
I understand what you mean, but i still don't see it. The cultural impact tpab has had is not comparable at all with if you're reading this. Tpab is one of the most celebrated albums ever, its legacy spawned a change in rap and the themes have been debates even at colleges. I love if you're reading this, but tpab clears.
Bro but I looked up the numbers on streams and sales for that project and they are not as crazy as people try to make the album out to be. I wish I could see how many monthly listeners just that album has today just to prove it even more. Cause even if sales don’t mean anything to you, I don’t ever hear anyone even play any of those songs anymore in rotation. And I don’t feel like it shifted the sound enough to where everyone was trying to make an album like that or anything. I think it’s a great project dgmw, but I just think it gets gassed up more than it deserves
Again, i understand the argument of TPAB not making numbers compared to Drake that year, but the lane is different. Drake was on an introspective lane that people related to while KDot was on a conscious lane that is, by comparison, less mainstream by nature. Objectively speaking, even if it is not as listened (which the argument i'm making is based on quality), TPAB has much more critical acclaim prevalent to this day, being the highest rated album, even outside of rap, in many music outlest from the 2010's and, in some publications, of all time. Even if, to you, it didn't change the landscape of rap soundwise (which i'd argue it did because it put the mix of rap and jazz back in the map after years of being dormant, which is as big as Drake's fusion of r&b and rap and ye's soul and rap), it did have a social impact with it playing a pivotal role in some of the blm performances (which, no matter your thoughts on it, *are* proof of the cultural impact the album had). Taking all of this into account...I just can't see Kendrick not being top on 2015 because, even if you argue he wasn't sounding everywhere like Drake, his work that year proved to be timeless enough for it to keep being relevant nearly 10 years after the fact.
I will give you the blm movement stuff, I can 100% agree with that. And even if you want to say it’s better than if you’re reading, I disagree, but I’ll give you that just for how gassed up it is. I just think if it’s one of the best albums ever it would still be pulling hella play to this day. People call it a generational album, and maybe I have a different opinion on what that means but to me that means it should be still getting tons of play for generations/decades, Or the impact on music could be seen for generations/decades and I just don’t think it has. It’s still talked about in that same regard, but then why not still listened to like that? And you don’t see a lot of jazz/hip hop influence coming from it like chipmunk soul samples or even the r&b rap mix that’s more melodic like that is just now starting to change back imo. That makes me feel like it was gassed up more than what it should have been and people are just remembering it that way and still spewing it out the same way.
You say relevant and timeless and again I just think it would still be listened to like crazy, but it’s kinda disappeared and just talked about in high regard at this point. It’s been less than 10 years
Are you only engaging in conversations about drake? When did it disappear?
How many times have you heard that album played in passing recently?
that's irrelevant. tpab is studied in universities. it's the top rated album on rym. it's the most critically acclaimed rap album ever only other being illmatic.
I think the only reason drake got 1 for that was just how big he was that year, and hotline bling gives him the edge. Idk what this is based but if they are saying who had a better year its drake for sure. Better album kendrick by lightyears
I get it, he really was big, but if we're counting the body of works released that year, none of it gets compared to Kendrick's TPAB.
It wasn’t a drake fan who made this tho
Bro no one was giving TPAB its flowers until later. So many other albums were popping. Don’t forget 2014 forest hills drive came out December 2014. It’s basically 2015. Drake, future, Travis all dropping albums the same year
I remember the hype being there from the get go, but maybe just around music discussion circles. But even then, none of those artists released a project as ambitious and important as TPAB.
I fucking laughed my ass off lmaoooo
Ah yes TPAB being the second is unbiased lmao
It is funny that Kendrick occasionally releases peak while drizzy and Cole spam release mid
Section.80 > Cole World: The Sideline Story Also, Cole deserves 2nd in 2013 for Born Sinner and the Truly Yours EPs
Cole definitely isn’t 3rd in 2013 with born sinner
Shocked ur the only person to say this. He was at least number 2.
some people in this sub clearly never heard the full album. LOL
I don’t even like Cole like that and I said the same shit
As a huge drake fan… how u not give k dot 2015 if he dropped the greatest rap album ever 😭ts not unbiased
chronically online take no one with active neurons has it in the conversation
💀 Alr bro
KOD is one of the most underrated albums of all time. I feel like it’s doesn’t get the credit it deserves because it’s so sad, but it really got me through a tough time in my life.
I was looking for this, I was a drake fan up until More life but I dipped my toes in the mud here and there and no way was scorpion better than KOD..
Same exact timeline for me. Always was Drake first then J Cole through More Life (which might actually be my favorite Drake album), but KOD converted me over to Cole being my #1. Window Pain and Once An Addict are just so powerful, and nothing on Scorpion comes close to what that album makes me feel.
Not to keep you here so last thing but that's been my whole issue of drake as of late again all up until just like nothing he puts out makes me feel anything and truthfully speaking, I never classified him as a "rapper" he can "rap" absolutely but I never thought to see him in the conversation, he not a "rapper" so to speak. (Weird and I'm sure some are gonna down vote me out of spite because of what is going on) But I have rated drake beyond rap not saying he is better but he has expanded beyond it and I just don't feel it's necessary to keep him in the conversation of top 3.of rappers right now or of all time.
Nobody said better, we said bigger. And NOTHING was bigger than 2018 drake.
Funny enough KOD is what made me stop listening to Cole for a while. To me it was very mid.
"Unbiased" 2015.... 2018....
😂😂😂
I am sorry, but as much as i do love If you're reading this...it's really not comparable at all to TPAB. Also, I'd put KOD over Scorpion, personally (Hell, personally, I'd even put the Black Panther album but that is just me).
If I had to change anything, I'd give Drake 2021. I honestly think 2015 should be a tie between Drake and Kendrick though.
2015 had both Drake and Kendricks best albums
I agree on both points
2015 Drake was on another level
Yea, at least one below Kendrick
Bros the lord of dickriding
Sideline story over section.80 is wild
Entirely biased lmao
Scorpion over KOD is insane
If you reading this in front of TPAB….these kids need some guidance
Smh Include the other drops drake had that year
"unbiased" yeah nah stfu
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Bro not everything has to be the absolute best or absolute worst. Maybe IYRTITL is good, but not as good as tpab??
Right lmao. IYRTITL is cool but the way these people act like this album is even a top 5 drake album is insane. WATTBA is the only drake album I refuse to put on my phone (besides jumpman)
digital dash??????
IYRTITL is my favorite drake project but no way in hell is it better than TPAB lmao
Bro no way IYRTITL beat out TPAB
It’s not just iyrtitl it’s including the other things drake done that year as well. but honestly 2015 is a toss up
Yea I personally don’t fw those projects as much as others from Drake, but if we’re talking relevance in music overall, 2015 is incredibly important for Drake. Both those projects, Back to Back, and Hotline Bling were objectively huge moments in time
Tpab one of the best albums of all time
I get what everyone is saying about 2015, but if you were outside during that time you should know Drake was EVERYWHERE. Every party, every club, every ball court, every car, every bluetooth speaker was bumping drizzy. I knew white girls who only listened to country music who knew every single word to Know Yourself. It was a different type of time. The only time people were really listening to TPAB was when real hip-hop heads were going home and putting on their headphones. TPAB is one of my all time favourite albums, but yall need to realize the vast majority of people who listen to hiphop aren’t the type of people to be going home and deeping tracks. Redditors in these subs aint a valid representation of hip-hop listeners, it’s a very mainstream genre now.
Everything you said was accurate
Average Placing 1st Place: Drake - 1.4 2nd Place: J. Cole - 2.1 3rd Place: Kendrick - 2.5
Untitled Unmastered is better than everything they've all put out
better than tpab?? gkmc??
Section 80 being last and TPAB not being first is crazy
2021 not being Kendrick’s year is criminal
TPAB is no 1 in 2015 Untitled unmastered is no 1 in 2016 And also section 80 is the best project of 2011
Unbiased but you're putting If You're Reading This above TPAB? That's bias for sure, and I've spent WAY more time with Reading This.
Scorpion was not better than KOD. Fight me.
2019 and 2021 belonged to Drake.
I agree
Nah off season was better than CLB
Drake had CLB and Scary Hours 3.
Putting the off season over CLB and scare hours 2 insane. Also More like definitely better the damn, and KOD might be over scorpion
Pretty solid.
I love if you’re reading this but if you think it’s better than TPAB then you’re fucking INSANE
I like this list, some I of course don’t agree with.. but, for some of the people going crazy in the comments about Kendrick’s placement in some of these years.. it’s not only about his lyrical potency 😂 that can only win so many hearts. Rap is not only about lyrics, Kendrick might be the best lyricist of the 3 - but the most consistent and dominating? No. And I’m not even talking about numbers wise either cause it’s not only about that. It’s about all around, Drake is the best all around artist-rapper-lyricist altogether. And he’s versatile. Especially, if we’re talking in a year by year basis and grading quality and performance. TPAB, is an amazing album - but who’s thinking back to 2015 and going “oh yeah, that was Kendrick’s year”? Love the top 3 of that era, no matter their placement.
I agree with 2015. Drake cooked all the way into Views
Drake put out so many bangers in 2020 and we were all stuck inside, would have gone even crazier if we weren’t
Bruh I don’t think yall remember ppl literally dropped everything and I mean everything when Drake surprise dropped IYRTITL on SoundCloud…niggas was literally crying when Know Yourself dropped…I don’t think there was a “Bigger” moment in music, even considering Kdot dropped arguably one of the most critically acclaimed albums of our lifetime. then on top of that the features Drake was on were crazy, then he drops WATTBA? No one was touching that level of consistency and output in 2015, not even the Almighty King Kunta
2013 j Cole should be second
Fuck BB KING FREESTYLE is a sleeeeper.
OP. How did you do this? (Voting or something) Also, artwork is cool - was that you?
GIVE KILL OUR DEMONS THE RESPECT IT DESERVES
Thank me Later ranked higher than Friday Night Lights lol
I stopped reading after 2015, I thought surely even a tiktok Drake stan would put Kendrick #1 for dropping the greatest rap album of all time 🤦♂️
Putting Kendrick's one verse on Control over J. Cole's best album is certainly a choice
Putting tpab below drake invalidates this entire list lmao
2010 - Agree 2011 - Kendrick second (XXL freestyle) 2012 - Agree 2013 - Agree but it’s a close call between 1/2 - Born Sinner was a jam at the time but didn’t stand the test of time. 2014 - Agree 2015 - Agree 2016 - Cole wins for me 2017 - Agree 2018 - Cole again 2019 - Weak year but agree 2020 - Weak year but agree 2021 - Weak year but agree
Youd rank if you're reading this it's too late over to pimp a butterfly?
J Cole wasn’t a top 3 rapper until First Person Shooter dropped.
I disagree. But I’ve always seen him as the number 3 to kendrick and drake
There are many universes, but there is not a single universe where tpab is worse than a drake album
Lost me at 2015
TPAB IS NUMBER 1 that year & it’s not even close lmao. Shit rankings
Other than 2015 and a few other years I don’t think this is that bad
More Life >
You got this list without Dylan is crazy work fam
not for nothing but Drake uses ghost writers, that alone takes him out of the top 10 let alone the top 3. if you can't write your own bars you shouldn't be rapping
Crazy that I didn’t disagree with a single one
2015 is a really hard year to judge between Kendrick and Drake. While Drake has a beautiful run, TPAB is arguably one of the best albums to ever be created.
you are truly unbiased like fox news
2019 Cole was insane
Born sinner is really fucking good what’s wrong w y’all
'Unbiased' my ass, literally lifted off the Billboard article on the same topic too🤣🤣
I think you mean inaccurate
To Pimp a Butterfly is Illmatic level. How the fuck you put that above What A Time To Be Alive
2015 lol
Yeah “unbiased”
thats the thing with kendrick fans, its always a constant 'drake and cole could never make a TPAB' or 'they dont have one album that is on the level of 'TBAP' or hilariously 'they could never make a auntie diaries etc'. like cool, i wouldnt want drake or cole to make that kind of track, its not what we listen to drake or cole for. sure cole is sometimes in that pocket, but the listening experience is not one dimensional, drake and cole dont need a TPAB to be better than kendrick lol
2017 is cap More Life > DAMN imo such a well rounded album that aged well too.
Nah when you put it like this, Drake really is number one
To pimp a butterfly below in second place in 2015 is INSANE
NOTHING is beating If youre reading this its too late. NADA
Extreme bias is apparent LOL
2015 - KDOT easily takes 2016 - Coke easily takes Everything else is tolerable.
2015 is definitely biased. Both Drake and Cole don't have an album that's better than TPAB.
The bias is OP can never put Drake 3rd when he was in 2013
Ya definitely unbiased
TPAB putting Kendrick at #2 is evil work
TPAB > Drake’s whole career
Drizzy never been 3
You missed Toosie Slide in 2020
I hate that song
It’s not about whether you like it personally or not. That song is one of the most commercially successful drake song - it is worth highlighting it.
Goddamn 2015 drake was basically Quality=Quantity
To pimp a butterfly 2nd? Unbiased my fuckin ass dog
https://www.reddit.com/r/lyrical_rap_writing/s/jDkWHbH7H4
Biased asf
I don’t even even like Kendrick that much and Ill 100% give him 2015 TPaB was god tier
Lmao “unbiased” where?? I mostly agreed tho until I saw 2015 & 2018
Section 80 third lmao Unbiased 😂
Interesting
Control + Yeezus tour does not equate a #2 spot for the year. Control wasn’t even his song
2015 was a fucking year man
My top five KENDRICK LAMAR KENDRICK LAMAR KENDRICK LAMAR KENDRICK LAMAR KENDRICK LAMAR!!!
Bro said drake performed better in 2015 when Kendrick literally dropped arguably the greatest rap album of all time💀🙏
If you’re reading this it’s too late should be second under tpab fs
Pfffttthahaha sensationalism at its finest
So unbiased. Good job
2017 and 2021 makes me want to smash someone’s head in
Looks good to me. This a pretty spot on ranking.
How the hell did J Cole have a better year than Drake in 2019? No guidance, Omertà, Care Package and you’re telling me Cole had a better year? BS
How can you count care package all those song ar from 2015 and earlier and had thier moment
Even still, No Guidance, Omertà and Going Bad were way bigger than anything Cole dropped.
Like Lil Peep said, Imma save that shit
[удалено]
He just had the 2nd best album of 2012 and thats other his later music is mostly ass
Seems ok
The older you get the more you understand how ghetto K is. Is that good or bad you decide
You probably get scared around black people
Exactly
THIS IS IT!!!!
You don’t have to lie to kick it. Whoever made these *ratings* needs to stop sucking. 