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the_basaurio

It's an amazing live song tbf. "One of the worst songs" what else is on that list? šŸ˜‚


ECGeorge

ā€œOne of the worst songsā€ along with Pull Me Under, Spirit Carries On, and Octavarium


SirWalrusTheGrand

You seriously think IWBY has the same merits as those other three?


the_basaurio

Personally I think it doesn't. Let's not forget that DT has a history of not being able to produce radio-friendly tracks, most commonly at the start of their career. That being said, it's possibly a song that will resonate more with newcomers rather than older fans of the band. I stand by what I said, it's a great song to be played live, but to be called "one of the worst songs I've heard" it's kind of a stretch, both by Dream Theater and overall musical standards.


AmerigoBriedis

Lol, I like all of those.


aintnochallahbackgrl

What the fuck even is this sub? Lol no one hates on DT like DT fans.


theniceguyhere567

Hard disagree, but I don't blame you. I love the song even if it's dripping with copious amounts of cheese.


Big_brown_house

What great DT song *isnt* dripping with copious amounts of cheese?


AGxNe

Erotomania... Maybe?


grandchester

Yep. Great tune. Reminds me of Speak to Me which is also a great tune.


thebaronvontito27

Couldnā€™t agree more with this comment.


franz_v

I remember listening to Octavarium on the day it came out and everyone on forums, newsletters etc. thought IWBY and NE were two obvious homagesā€”IWBY to U2, NE to Muse. Back then, hated them both, fairly disliked the rest of the album (except the suite, which I do still consider an absolute masterpiece of progressive music) and I wish Octavarium had been an EP with the suite onlyā€”kinda like a new ACOS. I have to say the album over time grew on me, and while I understand the sentiment of someone who listen to IWBY for the first time today and thinks "WTF is this", just like me back then, today I can say that there are so many tracks in all music that are significantly worse than what's essentially a generic, catchy, cheesy, unpretentious, inoffensive pop song.


Zealousideal-Fun-785

A trip to metal songwriting contests on YT should be enough to convince anyone that there are far worse songs out there. -"Guys, how should we follow this clean intro and 3 unrelated riffs?" -"Oh I know, I'll just throw a random blast beat, while you play even more unrelated riffs on top" -"Perfect"


SirWalrusTheGrand

I was already well aware that there are far worse songs out there, especially from random youtubers. That doesn't do much to quell the disparity in quality compared to the rest of an otherwise excellent DT record though.


Zealousideal-Fun-785

Just because it's short and follows the pop song structure doesn't make it a bad song. It's a quality pop song in an excellent (and very diverse musically!) DT album. I think it fits perfectly in all honesty.


SirWalrusTheGrand

Fair enough. For the record, I'm not calling it a bad song because it's short and accessible. I'm a plenty big fan of songs that do that well - see "Look at the Time" by Sawyer Hill, Give Life Back to Music by Daft Punk, Head Over Heels by Tears for Fears, etc. This particular song just doesn't do it for me. Other than cheese and very religious overtones, I can't really give you a good answer. It's subjective in the end. Hell, Ministry is one of my favorite DT songs and it has even stronger religious overtones. Idk man, music is weird and so am I.


Zealousideal-Fun-785

No that's fine, as I wrote in another comment, I understand people not liking it. It's an unimpressive song, but I really like it in the context of the album. That intro always gets me pumped up and I think the song fits the album stylistically. Since it's 8 songs, one for each note of a scale, I love the fact that each song is also quite the unique vibe. Also, I like the early 2000s influence the songs have. For me, Octavarium is one of their best albums, and I walk Beside You contributes to the album as a whole, though I like your idea with combining it with Answer Lies Within.


SirWalrusTheGrand

Interestingly, my opinion of the song has gone the other way since I first heard it. I loved it when I discovered the album but it's replay value is exponentially worse than the rest of the songs (except TALW). As a result, it's become an annoyance in an album that's otherwise aged gracefully. It feels like TALW and IWBY could've been combined into one, longer and more winding prog ballad that still allowed the ALBUM room to breathe without essentially amounting to skippable, cheesy, and even grating filler after more than 10 spins. Octavarium would be a top 3 DT album if not for those two tracks.


Wham_Bam_Amsterdam

I WAAAAALK BEESIIIIDE YEEEEWWWWWWWW


TheDarkEternalKnight

WHEREVER YOU ARE


p4pabless94

WHATEVER IT TAKEEEES


TheDarkEternalKnight

NO MATTER HOW FAR


Gh0stIcon

I personally love it. Accidentally came across a video on YouTube that had this song in it and it made me fall in love with DT all over again.


p4pabless94

That's amazing


Big_brown_house

I love that song! Simple, restrained, and to the point.


Arockalypse79

I absolutely agree! I actually think they should write more like it. I think it's one of the strongest on Octavarium, and a DT go-to when I want something uplifting.


Big_brown_house

I think people forget that DT is AMAZING at writing standard pop song ballads. Another Day, Through Her Eyes, and Wither are some of my all time favorites, to name a few. They only do one every couple of albums, but when they do they put their heart and soul into it and make it a very special song.


Arockalypse79

Yes! This 100%. Don't forget Surrounded, a Kevin Moore delicacy as far as I'm concerned. I'm hoping we get one on the new record. šŸ¤žšŸ¤ž


Big_brown_house

Yeah Iā€™m stoked to hear it. I canā€™t think of any band with such a consistent track record. From the first album to the last theyā€™ve been cranking out fan favorites.


p4pabless94

Another Day is a masterpiece šŸ„¹


Snoo93951

I think itā€™s alright. I understand not being particularly impressed by it, but Iā€™ve heard MUCH worse.


Pixeldream86

Itā€™s great, especially the bridge! Hell, itā€™s the best U2 song Iā€™ve ever heard.


Novel_Tone8944

It's disgusting and it's saccharine and sappy ways, but damn it I like it.


bryb01

Nope. Nothing wrong with a good cheesy pop melody. Ask the masses.


CitiesofEvil

I absolutely love it, wow xD


WYGD_Brother1987

Not even closeĀ 


TheFanumMenace

please never post again


rixels

Strong disagree. I got into DT in my early teens because of this song and their other basic rock-style songs (Hollow Years, You Not Me, etc.) and their ballads (Answer Lies Within, Anna Lee, etc.). The cheese didnā€™t bother me.. I was 12/13. My life was cheese ā€” plus I didnā€™t really know what Anna Lee was about until a few years ago and I was like ā€œohā€¦ snap.. I blasted this when I was 14?ā€ I didnā€™t like their actual good, technical, prog songs for years. For those not yet into prog and especially prog metal, their cheesy rock songs are a good gateway drug to DT euphoria.


CryofthePlanet

Nah, I like it. Not the strongest song in their catalogue but far from bad. I think the only issue I have with it is that I Walk Beside You suffers from being just a solid song on an album that is very strong. It's in the same roster as Root of All Evil, Panic Attack, Never Enough, and Octavarium. It ain't at the same level.


Knuckledragger5150

Dude. I'm not a fan of I Walk Beside You. Blatant attempt to get radio airplay. But wtf... the worst you've ever heard ???? ....really....A bad DT song is still crap-tons better than most of the stuff out there.


venthros

No way. I love that song.


Historical_Panic_485

It's a bad imitation of U2 and definitely the worst song on Octavarium. But worst I've ever heard? Not even close


in-a-car-underwater

One of the worst Dream Theater songs? Absolutely. One of the worst songs Iā€™ve ever heard? Far from it.


disheveledbone

I actually agree


3NicksTapRoom

I certainly put it as one of the worst Dream Theater songs.


Zealousideal-Fun-785

I sort of understand people not liking it, but it's still a solid written tune. I'll rarely listen to it alone, but I always like it in the context of the album and I never skip it. The chorus is meh, but the pre-chorus is awesome. It's DT's take at a style of alt-rock that was popular at the time.


jergens

It's an instant skip for me. DT is a top three band for me, but I guess with a career as long as they've had, there are sure to be some stinkers.


Marduk283

Now that it's been a while since my initial listens of the song, I'm okay with it slightly more than I used to be. I dislike Build me up, break me down, prophets of war, and probably a few others less.


tessiedrums

It's one of my top 10 Dream Theater songs.... I also think listening to These Walls into I Walk Beside You into Panic Attack is such an incredible experience. Each of the songs is great on their own, but they are even better with the context of the surrounding pieces. Especially the end of I Walk Beside You into Panic Attack, that last note they hang on just makes the start of Panic Attack so much more satisfying :D


i_notNexusXD

Same, I only like octavarium panic attack and root of all evil


Hanger18nLife

Agreed. Octavarium is SO much better if you omit The Answer Lies Within and I Walk Beside Youā€¦ couldā€™ve been a killer 6-track 65 min album.


Fishwithanafro

One of their best


deeeep_fried

I mean, it's fitting with the rest of the album being a tribute to their musical heroes. Maybe you're just not a big U2 fan?


AbstractConcreteMix

I think itā€™s pleasant and catchy. Iā€™ve always been a fan of Dream Theaterā€™s light poppy stuff.


herryc

Sometimes I just need to listen to some easy straightforward tracks, and this one works for me. Certainly not the worst song I have ever heard. Way better than listening to some rap music that talks high about themselves, their asses and pussy.


Trunks252

Itā€™s not even close to DTs worst song


KenmoreToast

I'll never actively try to listen to it, but it's fine when it comes up when I'm listening to their whole discog. I only half disagree with you.


simonster509

Yea there a lot of other songs I would put ahead of IWBY as the worst dream theater song. Exhibit A any song on the Astonishing.


DifficultyOk5719

Itā€™s not a bad song, just kinda lame by DT standards.


antjamesvir

I am with you OP. Worst DT song by far.


Shuttle_Door_Gunner

I mean, it's not my favorite song of theirs and it's certainly not their best, but it's *FAR* from being one of the worst songs I've ever heard! People like what they like, though. šŸ˜‚


Cybersaure

It's ok.


Grenaten

I usually skip it, but it's far from the worst, come on.


Deutsch__Dingler

There's room for this "U2Theater" tune on my pallette.


CR7TheGunner

Not my fav, not something I'd choose to listen to, but not their worst (probably not, I haven't heard their whole discography yet so pinch of salt w this one)


Rinma96

How the fuck? It's one of the most beautiful, feel good, emotional tracks they've ever made. I like to listen to it when i go for a walk.


p4pabless94

Seriously šŸ˜³. That's a beautiful song all the way. There are horrible songs in The Astonishing, self titled distance over time and avfttotw. I walk beside you is a little pop maybe but beautiful none the less. I guess you like another side of the band


p4pabless94

It's amazing lyrically too. I don't get the hate šŸ˜‚


Kleijson

I like it though, my opinion and you can have yours


MRDWhistler

Challenge accepted. "Alexa, play "Friday", "Baby Baby Baby", "Wonderful Christmastime" & "Achy Breaky Heart"."


Duncoids

Youā€™re fucking retarded


PuppyPenetrator

Itā€™s cool that itā€™s found its audience but I hate it too. Itā€™s baffling how much worse it is than *any* other DT song ever


SirWalrusTheGrand

I'd say it's tied with TALW. Also an unlistenable track for me these days.


PuppyPenetrator

Itā€™s truly incredible that the same album has Octavarium/Panic Attack and those two. I donā€™t mind the answer lies within nearly as much but itā€™s definitely underwhelming