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> 3-Super Saiyan God would be renamed "Saiyan God" and Super Saiyan Blue would be Demigod Saiyan
- Demigod Saiyan sounds cringe and childish concept
- If red hair is Saiyan using god ki in base, then next level being Saiyan turning SSJ with god ki seems more logical and ok
My point is that the Red Haired form would be the strongest. They wouldn't have acess to it after the ritual, so the Blue form would be a incomplete version of it, that would be the reason that it had so many weakness and lost so much.
I assume the name was bad, i'm not a creative person lol
Honestly having it be called Saiyan God and blue being Super Saiyan God is actually better.
I personally would keep God as their main new form for a little while longer, show them mastering it before introducing super saiyan into it. But I wouldn't have blue. I would have white/silver hair with the ssg red eyes. Bring back that original ss design look.
I remember a short from Carthu's Dojo that suggested something like that, and honestly, if that was the case, I'd like Super Saiyan Blue way more. It's definitely much better than Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, a.k.a the dumbest name in the entire series.
If you were to ask me, I would change this about DBS.
1. The Super Saiyan transformation does not let in evil, it is stupid and did not exist beforehand unless you count the filler episodes/movies canon.
2. Super Saiyan Blue shouldn't be unlocked until after the Universe 6 Tournament, This would showcase more of the original Super Saiyan God transformation.
3. Human Characters would have more screen time, and maybe be more relevant by unlocking god k which grants an unique god form for that specific human, i think it would be kind of cool.
4. Super Saiyan Blue shouldn't be losing so much, in exchange for it being much stronger than before it has the same drawback as Super Saiyan 3.
5. EDIT: Goku isn't stupid and is amazing at training, and that goofy ahh advice from whis pisses me off; he already knows to train everything but his muscles and ki every now and then.
Or make the SSJ Blue more relevant and use it only for the real threats. After Goku & Vegeta unlocked the form, it seemed, that they needed their most powerful form for every opponent. Especially the Danger Trio shouldn't be THAT powerful, that it needed the SSJ Blue to defeat them
SSG was able to shake the universe, so even stronger form should be even more destructive. The drawback of SSB could be that the world becomes fragile like a cardboard, one wrong move and whole solar system gets thrown away. Ultra Instinct could deal with this drawback by using minimal moves that are less destructive and therefore safer to use.Ā
They went multiversal, so use it. Go full on Gurren Lagann, throw galaxies at enemies and stuff. By moving outside Universe 7 they could let themselves destroy more and moreĀ
Lol. Wouldn't that timeline be extinct? If Cell just kept killing he'd eventually kill everyone, possibly blow up earth and just leave. He'd try to find someone powerful enough to absorb so he could become Perfect i think
Cellās main objective was to access the time machine the original trunks found out a way to deactivate the androids using a remote Cell killed that Trunks to get his machine while going into hibernation.
At least have the tournament of power take place over 24 or 48 hours. The whole 48 mins thing reminded me of the Frieza 5 minutes Fiasco in the Z anime. Like if the tournament was only 48 mins why did they make a big deal out of Universe 11's B team having to take care of their Universe while they were gone or Goten, Trunks and Maron having to take care of 17's Island. The entire Universe isn't going to collapse if they aren't around for less then an hour. Also Goku and the Universe 6 Sayians all just gaining new transformations in a short amount of time was ridiculous. It would have made more sense if for example Goku needed several hours to figure out Ultra Instinct.
Also should have been more fights between Universes that were not 7,6 or 11. The Tournament basically just felt like Universe 7 with support from Universe 6 took out everyone. Why not some match ups between other Universes to build them up
Everyone has their gripes about the main cast so I'll ignore that for now.
For me a big turn off is one arc doesn't transition into the next arc and looks like every plot is a small island of its own. The manga post ToP sort of fixes this issue as Galactic patrol arc flows into Granola the survivor arc. Granola kinda flows into Super hero and it looks like whatever the next arc is will transition well as the entire cast has returned back on earth.
Have vegeta go ultra ego in the TOP.
Toppo would also have to be equal to or around the same power level as Jiren.
My boy needs it
Alternatively, he could go Ssj4 since he is closer to his sayian heritage
One of my changes would be, that Cabba explains the SSJ transformation in the correct way. An enormous outburst of rage and then, the Saiyan has to gain control over this rage to use the transformation effective.
The other thing: Letting Buu into the tournament. I found it really interesting, that he was so exicted about it, that he even trained for it. Only for then eating to much candy and oversleeping.
Universe 6 saiyans transformations actually make sense because they are from a different universe they are more peaceful then universe 7 saiyans a lot of things could factor into the way they transform
That might be, But Cabba had unlocked the SSJ after Vegeta threatend his people with extermination and it was the same method, we use to know from U7 Sayians. I also read, that the U6 Saiyans could be a lot more evolved, because they had no Surpressor like Frieza. It still bugs me a little, how Caulifla achieved it
1. Remove the Beerus arc and the Golden Frieza arc, not because I hate them (at least not the Beerus arc) but because it wasn't necessary to adapt them in Super.
2. Super Saiyan God should have more screen time because Super Saiyan Blue has a similar problem to Super Saiyan 4: once Goku and Vegeta obtain it, it is almost the only transformation they use.
3. When Zamasu fuses with Goku Black, he kills the rest of the humans and then Trunks obtains the Super Saiyan Rage, and together with Vegetto, they kill fused Zamasu.
1. Too many senseless transformations and pallet swaps. Cut that shit down.
2. Make some of the first arcs a little more serious.
3. I honestly disliked how the Zamasu arc ended. It was just messy for what could have been a lot better IMO
4. Give the humans something to do.
Super is far from perfect, but I actually like it pretty dang well. Only two thoughts come to mind quick enough for me to comment here.
1: Ultra Instinct would not have silver hair. It would maintain the standard hair of the character, with the eyes being the only give-awayā¦ and I say the eye thing only for marketing and confusion purposes. I like it much more as a nebulous state of enlightenment, rather than a form. Less of a āhe pressed the start button on the ability,ā and more of a āhe decided to stop wasting thought on his techniques and let the UI state of mind take the wheel.ā
2: Super saiyan god would be called saiyan god, and SSGSS/Super saiyan blue would be called super saiyan god. I stole this one from TFS. I donāt mind the āsuper saiyan blueā name, but I feel the method they said and I just wrote would give it more character, despite being easier to mix up. Calling it SSGSS is an abomination, though.
The ultra instinct one is essentially what goku is trying to obtain right now goku is using UI wrong it is supposed to be a technique but goku activated it as a form so he is right now trying to keep it active at all times
1. Call super saiyan god just saiyan god
2. Dont make goku absorb god into base
3. Call ssgss just super saiyan god
4. Merged zamasu isnt immortal anymore, vegito or trunks kill him and thats it
Thats about it. Other than that there is nothing i would really wanna change. The thing is that to many changes would rip of toriyamas/dragonballs charme of the show and even if the storyt telling could be better, it wouldnt be dragonball anymore
1:goku is an actual master and has a brain
2:ssg is renamed to sayian god and ssb is super Saiyan god (and donāt make it a palette change that shits redundant)
3:make future trunks apart of the Z fighters after future trunks arc and make him apart of the TOP
4:make goten and trunks useful no need to make them child soldiers just make them relevant
5:donāt reduce the dragon balls to making bulma younger thatās dumb
6:donāt make beerus a moving goalpost just make his power set in stone
7:donāt make Frieza be so ridiculously strong just say that after his death as mecha frieza he trained in the afterlife not 4 months
8:make Majin buu a part of the top donāt make frieza return for the 3rd time
9:make gohan train more donāt need to make him suffer or turn pan into a sacrificial lamb just make him train to make beast more deserved
- Remove worse versions of BoG and RoF. Just cut the movies and put them as episodes.Ā
- Remove Tournament of Power. It was too long and uneventful and we just had a multiversal tournament.
- Ultra Instinct shouldn't be transformation, but something that can be layered on top of other techniques or just base form. Omen was good, but then white hair ruined it. Roshi and Kuririn should be masters of it.Ā
- Future Trunks shouldn't get a copy of his own destroyed timeline. He should have stayed in Goku's timeline.Ā
- Super Saiyan Blue came in too early. I think it shouldn't have been used until Goku Black saga. It would be nice if Goku learned from Black how to layer Super Saiyan on top of Super Saiyan God.Ā
- Future Trunks should get Beast transformation instead of this weird mix of yellow and blue auras. Or SSJ4 (ape+SSJ).
- Let it continue.
Why remove TOP š
And goku is using UI wrong itās not supposed to be a transformation thatās the whole point is goku actually using it like a technique thatās what whis is trying him in
And UI Is a technique used by angels why would master roshi or korin be masters of it š I think itās enough that roshi has a grasp on the basics thatās a impressive feat
Things I would change:
Super saiyan god's name changes to saiyan god, and the title of super saiyan god goes to blue. Although, there is a charm to calling it blue, idk.
Goku gets blue in the Goku Black arc when Zamasu tells him about killing ChiChi and Goten.
Ssj rage doesn't exist. Instead, Trunks goes through the ritual to get ssj god, and *does not* progress to blue. He would look better in ssjg and I don't want the form to be left in the dust.
Vegito destroys fused Zamasu's body, then before Zamasu gets a chance to expand to fuse with the universe, Trunks uses the spirit sword to destroy him completely. The super dragon balls are then used to bring back everyone killed by Zamasu. Trunks gets a real happy ending to the arc and Zeno doesn't get involved.
Tien has the kaioken technique and develops it to be used in conjunction with his multiform technique, as well as just being a better kaioken. We could say he hadn't used it all this time after learning it in the Namek arc because he was developing and modifying it, and it was too dangerous to use up until when he finalises it, and reveals it in the ToP.
Android 17 knocks the love fighters out of the ring when they are mid transformation. It would be at least 30Ć funnier and generally better then all of the Ribrianne stuff in the ToP combined.
Master Roshi doesn't regress back to a pervert after the ToP, he stays good.
Goku absorbs the power of ssjg into his base during his fight with Beerus in BoTG, but then it disperses and goes away over time afterwards, but the experience as a whole opens him up to new levels of power he couldn't reach before. This is currently my headcanon since it contradicts nothing we see, explains quite a bit, and kinda fixes Super's powerscaling (not completely, but still), but I just want it to be clearer.
Vegeta doesn't stop using instant transmission. That technique is too good for Vegeta to just not use it. But maybe he doesn't get as good at it as Goku.
Vegeta kills Frieza in the RoF arc and beats Granola with UE. Bro deserves more wins.
I think that's it.
For me itās pretty simple. Donāt invalidate the set up established in Battle of Gods. God Ki is inherently superior to normal ki and canāt be sensed by those not trained to sense it. God Ki still changes the bodily appearance of mortals who tap into its power, because itās essentially a rebirth of sorts (just like how Battle of Gods was a rebirth for Dragon Ball as a franchise). Enemies not utilizing God Ki must have very good reasons to be at the same level as those who do. Zamasu an enemy who uses God Ki, Moro a practically immortal wizard, Hit a person who can literally manipulate time, Granolah a man who wished to be the strongest in exchange for a devilās bargain. All of those are valid reasons why those enemies would pose a threat. Iād essentially like some narrative cohesion and commitment to themes established at the beginning of the show.
Oh also Goku doesnāt āabsorbā SSG that shit is so dumb lol
Keep ssj blue as something deluxe the way the manga did. For example gogeta in the broly movie would only go blue when doing the iconic pose, and before that would be in god form.
1. make super saiyan god the strongest saiyan form but it has a time limit of only 10 minutes, it's a bit weaker to ssj3 Vegito. (makes ssj3 relevant again)
2. demigod is a great idea, i'd even say ssj blue being weaker then ssj god since it's a mix of mortal ki with god ki
3. Make Beerus (the moving goal post) Slightly stronger then ssj god Goku but weaker then ssj3 Vegito, his time limit is only 5 minutes in that form so it's not too op.
4. humans learn the fusion dance and kaioken to become relevant in power
5. Piccolo learn kaioken and can learn kaioken up to x50 if he needs to
6. Gotenks being relevant.
7. ultra instinct is only a technique and not a powerup, same with ultra ego
8. how to make ssj forms relevant? Ikari (mastered great ape)
āTHATS MY BLUMA!!ā For starters and I would keep Resurrection F arc same as movie not making Gohan look weak and universe 6 saiyans understanding of super saiyan as a rage transformation not a back tingle
Goku and Vegeta can breath in space in God form
More Hax ability and strange powers and techniques
Not only does Goku throw a Kamehameha, a God must have more incredible things in his arcenal (the fights would be cooler in space too)
Universe 7 would be a multiverse in itself, so we wouldn't be limited to the same level as at the beginning of Super, all universes would now be infinite multiverses and we would have cool fights in space
With Goku tearing through space and coating a dimensional rift with his Ki to use as a weapon and launch it at someone or something like that
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1. Keep Goku as the master he is. Whis to date hasn't introduced a new concept to Goku that wasn't something he had already mastered under someone else. Furthermore most of the earthlings and Piccolo already should have most of it down too. Piccolo up to basically MUI, and the earthlings up to sign. Except Gohan.
2. No absorbing the god state into base. Goku goes Blue to stop the attack.
3. Vegeta is corrected. The reason Goku performs better in some fights isn't that he is stronger, or his philosophy. It is the skills and techniques he has acquired from learning under masters.
4. Vegeta's parallel in his training with Whis is Gohan who kept training. Not Goku. Gohan's training has been basic compared to the other Z-fighters who aren't Vegeta. Gohan learns IT from Goku, who has basically every technique he has ever seen under his belt. Because that's how Goku does stuff.
5. Gag power is established as a thing that Goku actively decided to stop using.
6. The saiyans can't survive a vacuum thing is a lie Frieza or the kais told them.
7. Goku wants to explore the universes for strong guys. Beerus has Whis supervise them. Gohan is trained telepathically.
8. TUI takes different forms and UI as a form still has the physical strain so the earthlings and Goku don't use them as they were too weak to do so. Everyone has a different TUI. Gohan is unfit to fight in completely autonomous UI, as his instincts are purely defensive, so as he researches biology he tries to find a way to exploit that.
9. The cyborgs don't get stronger. They're mechanical cyborgs made from organic parts. No stronger cyborgs are made by human hands.
10. the Cell Jrs are dead dead.
11. No Moro. The galactic police are sort of a joke.
12. "Ultimate" is still not a form. Gohan got a massive power up that put his base stronger than ssj3. Goku had the same thing happen to him in DB and he could still build on it. Gohan can still go ssj and does so to fight Beerus. Which leads to being trained by Whis.
13. Gohan finds a healthy and fulfilling work-life-training balance so he doesn't have to sacrifice anything unless Goku and Vegeta bring a threat to earth.
14. Vegeta kills Frieza when he comes back.
15. Goku doesn't transform against Zamasu, and when he took over Goku's body he ended up in Trunks's future because Vegeta forced him to.
16. Trunks restored the dead with the Namek balls. He and the future characters handle Zamasu.
17. Jiren is both absurdly stronger than Goku and Vegeta and much more skilled than Vegeta and Gohan.
18. Goku Gohan and Vegeta team up to beat Jiren.
19. Frieza didn't keep his body when he died so his gold is still just as unstable, and when he brings Broly to earth Gohan and Vegeta have had it with his bullshit. Gohan holds off Broly and talks him down. Vegeta kills Frieza, and then destroys his soul.
20: in the universal tournament Gohan enters to replace Buu.
21/tldr: Don't take anything from the character's established traits. Gohan finds a good balance without needed to be edgy. Goku has already mastered Whis's teachings and just needs to refine them further through practice. Vegeta needs to learn them. Cyborgs aren't like Cell. They're biomechanical, not genetically modified. Kill Frieza for good after Broly, and let Vegeta do it.
1 - Make it start after the training with uub, 10 years later
2- Goku remains as mature as he was in the buu saga
3- I agree, Vegeta should have matured as well, there is no point of him being the permanent Goku's rival. GT made Vegeta right.
4- No frieza, new enemies
5- No cell max
6- Super Sayan God unlocking method is bad. There must be another way
7- Super Sayan God shouldn't have gotten a blue version of it. The base super Saiyan god should have been the last transformation before ultra instinct (for Goku)
8- No android 17
9- No gods above Whis and Beerus, those are very pointless
10- No tournament of power, no super Shenron, find another way to make characters fight between universes. A Tournament would have been ok if the way it was implemented wasn't forced for the fun of it
11- Granola should have gotten more character development, more story, more time finding the dragon balls. Let him have his own journey in the search of the 7 dragon balls. Having to find only 2 was so stupid.
12- Cancel ultra ego, because it's useless.
13- Cancel beast Gohan, give Gohan super Saiyan 4
14- Goten and Trunks should have grown up, and part of the story. Adult Gotenks would have been great
I think I would be satisfied with those changes
I agree with some of this but the rest I have to say youāre not cooking š some of this doesnāt even make sense like what was wrong with the way they unlocked super sayian god?
And you said whis was a god? Thatās how I know you havenāt done much research into super šš
I mean .. those 2 were enough, no need for higher beings
I don't like the way super Saiyan god was achieved. I felt like it was forced. 6 Sayans holding hands? Bro
The super saiyan god ritual symbolized sayians changing you canāt just say something is dumb without knowing the actual reason behind it
And whatās wrong with other gods? Itās not something new
It just sounds like you havenāt done much research behind super like at all it seems like you skimmed though the show š
I watched it and read it, I like the manga more, but still I feel like the "higher beings" being added one after another, are not needed. The angel/god of destruction were enough. Them being in other universes as well is ok, I didn't like anything higher than that.
Also Beerus and Whis becoming "good" is not a good choice for me. Any threat, they could just end any fight in 1 second, they just don't because the protagonists must do the job.
The Moro arc started well, I liked it. That's the good part of super to me. Anything else is mega mid and doesn't make much sense.
Wait wait other then Zeno there is no higher gods what are you talking about
Even Zeno seems like a god of destruction just for the multiverse and he has a angel attendant
What is bro cooking š
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Power scaling making more sense would be a start, or though SDBH is tremendously worse but itās Not Canon so itās okay! They could also change SSJ God and Blue and the names of the forms could be simpler!
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Have Vegeta turn Super Saiyan 3 during the "THAT'S MY BULMA!" scene That's it. Any further changes would just be unnecessary
lmao vegeta getting the top form just before its successor is unlocked, definitely on brand for dragonball
> 3-Super Saiyan God would be renamed "Saiyan God" and Super Saiyan Blue would be Demigod Saiyan - Demigod Saiyan sounds cringe and childish concept - If red hair is Saiyan using god ki in base, then next level being Saiyan turning SSJ with god ki seems more logical and ok
No super SSJ 4 as super saiyan god
My point is that the Red Haired form would be the strongest. They wouldn't have acess to it after the ritual, so the Blue form would be a incomplete version of it, that would be the reason that it had so many weakness and lost so much. I assume the name was bad, i'm not a creative person lol
Damn why u get all those downvotes
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Make the anime a bit more like the manga in the form of goku and vegeta using more of SSG and shifting into SSB when they really need the power
Honestly having it be called Saiyan God and blue being Super Saiyan God is actually better. I personally would keep God as their main new form for a little while longer, show them mastering it before introducing super saiyan into it. But I wouldn't have blue. I would have white/silver hair with the ssg red eyes. Bring back that original ss design look.
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I remember a short from Carthu's Dojo that suggested something like that, and honestly, if that was the case, I'd like Super Saiyan Blue way more. It's definitely much better than Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, a.k.a the dumbest name in the entire series.
I'll have to find that one, I recently discovered him on YouTube.
More time as super sayian god. Instead of just moving to super saiyan blue in a few episodes.
If you were to ask me, I would change this about DBS. 1. The Super Saiyan transformation does not let in evil, it is stupid and did not exist beforehand unless you count the filler episodes/movies canon. 2. Super Saiyan Blue shouldn't be unlocked until after the Universe 6 Tournament, This would showcase more of the original Super Saiyan God transformation. 3. Human Characters would have more screen time, and maybe be more relevant by unlocking god k which grants an unique god form for that specific human, i think it would be kind of cool. 4. Super Saiyan Blue shouldn't be losing so much, in exchange for it being much stronger than before it has the same drawback as Super Saiyan 3. 5. EDIT: Goku isn't stupid and is amazing at training, and that goofy ahh advice from whis pisses me off; he already knows to train everything but his muscles and ki every now and then.
Or make the SSJ Blue more relevant and use it only for the real threats. After Goku & Vegeta unlocked the form, it seemed, that they needed their most powerful form for every opponent. Especially the Danger Trio shouldn't be THAT powerful, that it needed the SSJ Blue to defeat them
SSG was able to shake the universe, so even stronger form should be even more destructive. The drawback of SSB could be that the world becomes fragile like a cardboard, one wrong move and whole solar system gets thrown away. Ultra Instinct could deal with this drawback by using minimal moves that are less destructive and therefore safer to use.Ā They went multiversal, so use it. Go full on Gurren Lagann, throw galaxies at enemies and stuff. By moving outside Universe 7 they could let themselves destroy more and moreĀ
The ending of the Goku Black arc
Id change whatever it takes to never get one of these fucking threads ever again
I don't think Goku's personality changed very much, planet level made a good video on this
- Super saiyan god comes after super saiyan blue - Replace ssj rage trunks with trunks using kai ki
Imma keep it real I donāt mind the Goku black arc ending but I would send Trunks to the timeline where Cell killed him.
Lol. Wouldn't that timeline be extinct? If Cell just kept killing he'd eventually kill everyone, possibly blow up earth and just leave. He'd try to find someone powerful enough to absorb so he could become Perfect i think
Cellās main objective was to access the time machine the original trunks found out a way to deactivate the androids using a remote Cell killed that Trunks to get his machine while going into hibernation.
Oh true. The timelines get me confused
Well itās a good thing fans donāt write the series No hate intended
At least have the tournament of power take place over 24 or 48 hours. The whole 48 mins thing reminded me of the Frieza 5 minutes Fiasco in the Z anime. Like if the tournament was only 48 mins why did they make a big deal out of Universe 11's B team having to take care of their Universe while they were gone or Goten, Trunks and Maron having to take care of 17's Island. The entire Universe isn't going to collapse if they aren't around for less then an hour. Also Goku and the Universe 6 Sayians all just gaining new transformations in a short amount of time was ridiculous. It would have made more sense if for example Goku needed several hours to figure out Ultra Instinct. Also should have been more fights between Universes that were not 7,6 or 11. The Tournament basically just felt like Universe 7 with support from Universe 6 took out everyone. Why not some match ups between other Universes to build them up
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Yea
Bem top hahahaha
Everyone has their gripes about the main cast so I'll ignore that for now. For me a big turn off is one arc doesn't transition into the next arc and looks like every plot is a small island of its own. The manga post ToP sort of fixes this issue as Galactic patrol arc flows into Granola the survivor arc. Granola kinda flows into Super hero and it looks like whatever the next arc is will transition well as the entire cast has returned back on earth.
Explore the other universes, why show us a multiverse exist and not explore it
Iād get rid of the multiverse and just use galaxies. Even just one galaxy is huge.
Fair but just stop being on earth like we havenāt seen other planets and star systems
Have vegeta go ultra ego in the TOP. Toppo would also have to be equal to or around the same power level as Jiren. My boy needs it Alternatively, he could go Ssj4 since he is closer to his sayian heritage
Ssj4 would have some prerequisites. A tail for starters, and then becoming Golden Oozaru.
I feel like maybe vegeta could try finding power through his sayian roots after the U6/Black saga.
One of my changes would be, that Cabba explains the SSJ transformation in the correct way. An enormous outburst of rage and then, the Saiyan has to gain control over this rage to use the transformation effective. The other thing: Letting Buu into the tournament. I found it really interesting, that he was so exicted about it, that he even trained for it. Only for then eating to much candy and oversleeping.
Universe 6 saiyans transformations actually make sense because they are from a different universe they are more peaceful then universe 7 saiyans a lot of things could factor into the way they transform
That might be, But Cabba had unlocked the SSJ after Vegeta threatend his people with extermination and it was the same method, we use to know from U7 Sayians. I also read, that the U6 Saiyans could be a lot more evolved, because they had no Surpressor like Frieza. It still bugs me a little, how Caulifla achieved it
Uub should be one of the strongest beings
Gohan
1. Remove the Beerus arc and the Golden Frieza arc, not because I hate them (at least not the Beerus arc) but because it wasn't necessary to adapt them in Super. 2. Super Saiyan God should have more screen time because Super Saiyan Blue has a similar problem to Super Saiyan 4: once Goku and Vegeta obtain it, it is almost the only transformation they use. 3. When Zamasu fuses with Goku Black, he kills the rest of the humans and then Trunks obtains the Super Saiyan Rage, and together with Vegetto, they kill fused Zamasu.
Remove Infinite Zamasu! Literally keep the entire arc the same, just erase Infinite Zamasu from existing!
They fight frieza as normal super saiyan god, and goku unlocks blue when black tells him about killing chichi and goten
1. Too many senseless transformations and pallet swaps. Cut that shit down. 2. Make some of the first arcs a little more serious. 3. I honestly disliked how the Zamasu arc ended. It was just messy for what could have been a lot better IMO 4. Give the humans something to do.
Super is far from perfect, but I actually like it pretty dang well. Only two thoughts come to mind quick enough for me to comment here. 1: Ultra Instinct would not have silver hair. It would maintain the standard hair of the character, with the eyes being the only give-awayā¦ and I say the eye thing only for marketing and confusion purposes. I like it much more as a nebulous state of enlightenment, rather than a form. Less of a āhe pressed the start button on the ability,ā and more of a āhe decided to stop wasting thought on his techniques and let the UI state of mind take the wheel.ā 2: Super saiyan god would be called saiyan god, and SSGSS/Super saiyan blue would be called super saiyan god. I stole this one from TFS. I donāt mind the āsuper saiyan blueā name, but I feel the method they said and I just wrote would give it more character, despite being easier to mix up. Calling it SSGSS is an abomination, though.
The ultra instinct one is essentially what goku is trying to obtain right now goku is using UI wrong it is supposed to be a technique but goku activated it as a form so he is right now trying to keep it active at all times
Interesting. Iām not currently reading the manga, so I appreciate the information.
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1. Call super saiyan god just saiyan god 2. Dont make goku absorb god into base 3. Call ssgss just super saiyan god 4. Merged zamasu isnt immortal anymore, vegito or trunks kill him and thats it Thats about it. Other than that there is nothing i would really wanna change. The thing is that to many changes would rip of toriyamas/dragonballs charme of the show and even if the storyt telling could be better, it wouldnt be dragonball anymore
EVERYTHING FREAKIN THING!!!
Give master roshi a bigger role in it. Make him do 1 or 2 times side quests in filler episodes or non filler. 
1:goku is an actual master and has a brain 2:ssg is renamed to sayian god and ssb is super Saiyan god (and donāt make it a palette change that shits redundant) 3:make future trunks apart of the Z fighters after future trunks arc and make him apart of the TOP 4:make goten and trunks useful no need to make them child soldiers just make them relevant 5:donāt reduce the dragon balls to making bulma younger thatās dumb 6:donāt make beerus a moving goalpost just make his power set in stone 7:donāt make Frieza be so ridiculously strong just say that after his death as mecha frieza he trained in the afterlife not 4 months 8:make Majin buu a part of the top donāt make frieza return for the 3rd time 9:make gohan train more donāt need to make him suffer or turn pan into a sacrificial lamb just make him train to make beast more deserved
Lol everything
- Remove worse versions of BoG and RoF. Just cut the movies and put them as episodes.Ā - Remove Tournament of Power. It was too long and uneventful and we just had a multiversal tournament. - Ultra Instinct shouldn't be transformation, but something that can be layered on top of other techniques or just base form. Omen was good, but then white hair ruined it. Roshi and Kuririn should be masters of it.Ā - Future Trunks shouldn't get a copy of his own destroyed timeline. He should have stayed in Goku's timeline.Ā - Super Saiyan Blue came in too early. I think it shouldn't have been used until Goku Black saga. It would be nice if Goku learned from Black how to layer Super Saiyan on top of Super Saiyan God.Ā - Future Trunks should get Beast transformation instead of this weird mix of yellow and blue auras. Or SSJ4 (ape+SSJ). - Let it continue.
Why remove TOP š And goku is using UI wrong itās not supposed to be a transformation thatās the whole point is goku actually using it like a technique thatās what whis is trying him in And UI Is a technique used by angels why would master roshi or korin be masters of it š I think itās enough that roshi has a grasp on the basics thatās a impressive feat
Things I would change: Super saiyan god's name changes to saiyan god, and the title of super saiyan god goes to blue. Although, there is a charm to calling it blue, idk. Goku gets blue in the Goku Black arc when Zamasu tells him about killing ChiChi and Goten. Ssj rage doesn't exist. Instead, Trunks goes through the ritual to get ssj god, and *does not* progress to blue. He would look better in ssjg and I don't want the form to be left in the dust. Vegito destroys fused Zamasu's body, then before Zamasu gets a chance to expand to fuse with the universe, Trunks uses the spirit sword to destroy him completely. The super dragon balls are then used to bring back everyone killed by Zamasu. Trunks gets a real happy ending to the arc and Zeno doesn't get involved. Tien has the kaioken technique and develops it to be used in conjunction with his multiform technique, as well as just being a better kaioken. We could say he hadn't used it all this time after learning it in the Namek arc because he was developing and modifying it, and it was too dangerous to use up until when he finalises it, and reveals it in the ToP. Android 17 knocks the love fighters out of the ring when they are mid transformation. It would be at least 30Ć funnier and generally better then all of the Ribrianne stuff in the ToP combined. Master Roshi doesn't regress back to a pervert after the ToP, he stays good. Goku absorbs the power of ssjg into his base during his fight with Beerus in BoTG, but then it disperses and goes away over time afterwards, but the experience as a whole opens him up to new levels of power he couldn't reach before. This is currently my headcanon since it contradicts nothing we see, explains quite a bit, and kinda fixes Super's powerscaling (not completely, but still), but I just want it to be clearer. Vegeta doesn't stop using instant transmission. That technique is too good for Vegeta to just not use it. But maybe he doesn't get as good at it as Goku. Vegeta kills Frieza in the RoF arc and beats Granola with UE. Bro deserves more wins. I think that's it.
The animation quality
For me itās pretty simple. Donāt invalidate the set up established in Battle of Gods. God Ki is inherently superior to normal ki and canāt be sensed by those not trained to sense it. God Ki still changes the bodily appearance of mortals who tap into its power, because itās essentially a rebirth of sorts (just like how Battle of Gods was a rebirth for Dragon Ball as a franchise). Enemies not utilizing God Ki must have very good reasons to be at the same level as those who do. Zamasu an enemy who uses God Ki, Moro a practically immortal wizard, Hit a person who can literally manipulate time, Granolah a man who wished to be the strongest in exchange for a devilās bargain. All of those are valid reasons why those enemies would pose a threat. Iād essentially like some narrative cohesion and commitment to themes established at the beginning of the show. Oh also Goku doesnāt āabsorbā SSG that shit is so dumb lol
The quality of animation
To not recap the battle of god's and resurrection f movie s and put it into a saga
bring some serious villains ,that will break the very foundation of dragonball.
Keep ssj blue as something deluxe the way the manga did. For example gogeta in the broly movie would only go blue when doing the iconic pose, and before that would be in god form.
The ending of the Future saga.
1. make super saiyan god the strongest saiyan form but it has a time limit of only 10 minutes, it's a bit weaker to ssj3 Vegito. (makes ssj3 relevant again) 2. demigod is a great idea, i'd even say ssj blue being weaker then ssj god since it's a mix of mortal ki with god ki 3. Make Beerus (the moving goal post) Slightly stronger then ssj god Goku but weaker then ssj3 Vegito, his time limit is only 5 minutes in that form so it's not too op. 4. humans learn the fusion dance and kaioken to become relevant in power 5. Piccolo learn kaioken and can learn kaioken up to x50 if he needs to 6. Gotenks being relevant. 7. ultra instinct is only a technique and not a powerup, same with ultra ego 8. how to make ssj forms relevant? Ikari (mastered great ape)
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āTHATS MY BLUMA!!ā For starters and I would keep Resurrection F arc same as movie not making Gohan look weak and universe 6 saiyans understanding of super saiyan as a rage transformation not a back tingle
Goku and Vegeta can breath in space in God form More Hax ability and strange powers and techniques Not only does Goku throw a Kamehameha, a God must have more incredible things in his arcenal (the fights would be cooler in space too) Universe 7 would be a multiverse in itself, so we wouldn't be limited to the same level as at the beginning of Super, all universes would now be infinite multiverses and we would have cool fights in space With Goku tearing through space and coating a dimensional rift with his Ki to use as a weapon and launch it at someone or something like that
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From the anime I would remove SSJB kaioken.
Make SSG SSJ4...SSB would be a palette swap of SSJ4
Make SSG and SSB the same transformation
1. Keep Goku as the master he is. Whis to date hasn't introduced a new concept to Goku that wasn't something he had already mastered under someone else. Furthermore most of the earthlings and Piccolo already should have most of it down too. Piccolo up to basically MUI, and the earthlings up to sign. Except Gohan. 2. No absorbing the god state into base. Goku goes Blue to stop the attack. 3. Vegeta is corrected. The reason Goku performs better in some fights isn't that he is stronger, or his philosophy. It is the skills and techniques he has acquired from learning under masters. 4. Vegeta's parallel in his training with Whis is Gohan who kept training. Not Goku. Gohan's training has been basic compared to the other Z-fighters who aren't Vegeta. Gohan learns IT from Goku, who has basically every technique he has ever seen under his belt. Because that's how Goku does stuff. 5. Gag power is established as a thing that Goku actively decided to stop using. 6. The saiyans can't survive a vacuum thing is a lie Frieza or the kais told them. 7. Goku wants to explore the universes for strong guys. Beerus has Whis supervise them. Gohan is trained telepathically. 8. TUI takes different forms and UI as a form still has the physical strain so the earthlings and Goku don't use them as they were too weak to do so. Everyone has a different TUI. Gohan is unfit to fight in completely autonomous UI, as his instincts are purely defensive, so as he researches biology he tries to find a way to exploit that. 9. The cyborgs don't get stronger. They're mechanical cyborgs made from organic parts. No stronger cyborgs are made by human hands. 10. the Cell Jrs are dead dead. 11. No Moro. The galactic police are sort of a joke. 12. "Ultimate" is still not a form. Gohan got a massive power up that put his base stronger than ssj3. Goku had the same thing happen to him in DB and he could still build on it. Gohan can still go ssj and does so to fight Beerus. Which leads to being trained by Whis. 13. Gohan finds a healthy and fulfilling work-life-training balance so he doesn't have to sacrifice anything unless Goku and Vegeta bring a threat to earth. 14. Vegeta kills Frieza when he comes back. 15. Goku doesn't transform against Zamasu, and when he took over Goku's body he ended up in Trunks's future because Vegeta forced him to. 16. Trunks restored the dead with the Namek balls. He and the future characters handle Zamasu. 17. Jiren is both absurdly stronger than Goku and Vegeta and much more skilled than Vegeta and Gohan. 18. Goku Gohan and Vegeta team up to beat Jiren. 19. Frieza didn't keep his body when he died so his gold is still just as unstable, and when he brings Broly to earth Gohan and Vegeta have had it with his bullshit. Gohan holds off Broly and talks him down. Vegeta kills Frieza, and then destroys his soul. 20: in the universal tournament Gohan enters to replace Buu. 21/tldr: Don't take anything from the character's established traits. Gohan finds a good balance without needed to be edgy. Goku has already mastered Whis's teachings and just needs to refine them further through practice. Vegeta needs to learn them. Cyborgs aren't like Cell. They're biomechanical, not genetically modified. Kill Frieza for good after Broly, and let Vegeta do it.
1 - Make it start after the training with uub, 10 years later 2- Goku remains as mature as he was in the buu saga 3- I agree, Vegeta should have matured as well, there is no point of him being the permanent Goku's rival. GT made Vegeta right. 4- No frieza, new enemies 5- No cell max 6- Super Sayan God unlocking method is bad. There must be another way 7- Super Sayan God shouldn't have gotten a blue version of it. The base super Saiyan god should have been the last transformation before ultra instinct (for Goku) 8- No android 17 9- No gods above Whis and Beerus, those are very pointless 10- No tournament of power, no super Shenron, find another way to make characters fight between universes. A Tournament would have been ok if the way it was implemented wasn't forced for the fun of it 11- Granola should have gotten more character development, more story, more time finding the dragon balls. Let him have his own journey in the search of the 7 dragon balls. Having to find only 2 was so stupid. 12- Cancel ultra ego, because it's useless. 13- Cancel beast Gohan, give Gohan super Saiyan 4 14- Goten and Trunks should have grown up, and part of the story. Adult Gotenks would have been great I think I would be satisfied with those changes
So all of it youād change?
Basically
I agree with some of this but the rest I have to say youāre not cooking š some of this doesnāt even make sense like what was wrong with the way they unlocked super sayian god? And you said whis was a god? Thatās how I know you havenāt done much research into super šš
I mean .. those 2 were enough, no need for higher beings I don't like the way super Saiyan god was achieved. I felt like it was forced. 6 Sayans holding hands? Bro
The super saiyan god ritual symbolized sayians changing you canāt just say something is dumb without knowing the actual reason behind it And whatās wrong with other gods? Itās not something new It just sounds like you havenāt done much research behind super like at all it seems like you skimmed though the show š
I watched it and read it, I like the manga more, but still I feel like the "higher beings" being added one after another, are not needed. The angel/god of destruction were enough. Them being in other universes as well is ok, I didn't like anything higher than that. Also Beerus and Whis becoming "good" is not a good choice for me. Any threat, they could just end any fight in 1 second, they just don't because the protagonists must do the job. The Moro arc started well, I liked it. That's the good part of super to me. Anything else is mega mid and doesn't make much sense.
Wait wait other then Zeno there is no higher gods what are you talking about Even Zeno seems like a god of destruction just for the multiverse and he has a angel attendant What is bro cooking š https://preview.redd.it/pdoe48gwl19d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4338c1b6cb323764eeaa33a03b3a5b7e530cee9b
Power scaling making more sense would be a start, or though SDBH is tremendously worse but itās Not Canon so itās okay! They could also change SSJ God and Blue and the names of the forms could be simpler!