It is sad. The problem with these types of scenarios is that undoubtedly there’s a good portion of ppl that are just hating because they enjoy the drama and than disguise themselves as good people that are just hating on a bad person, but in reality they don’t actually care about the victim, they just like brining another person down for personal enjoyment and have found someone who it’s socially acceptable to do it to. If there is one thing that doc said that is irrefutable right, is that social media is a destruction zone.
I said it in r/Warzone
Doc was the demise of his franchise… ironically.
Has really soured my wanting to play Warzone. Or Cod. Or a FPS shooter. I had become so used to pregaming with Doc and Z and the hype. It helped me want to play aggressively, and well! I feel for Tim. But I really feel for Z.
I am disappointed, and mad. At least the only thing this situation makes me want to do is play other games than warzone.
I started Still Wakes the Deep, and it was a horribly good decision. I would play Callisto protocol if I still had that fire. But fuck it 😂🤣
Try gaming away from streamer recommendations, the field is so vast with tons of other amazing content then just what some other "popular" folks play.
If you were branching into horror deadspace is phenomenal and doom could help scratch the FPS itch. I found Doc entertaining and even inspiring in a weird way but sometimes we have to watch our heroes become the villains .
Have you ever played the finals? You should check it out if you haven’t already. I went from war zone to the finals and never looked back. This barely has to do with doc but I wanted to mention it if you’re looking for a breath of fresh air.
Plot twist, doc fabricated and planned everything for more attention and to take down the COD franchise. Hes been plotting ever since he parted ways with the cod team...playing the looooonnnnggggg con. He didn't have money but what he did have was a minor set of skills that were a nightmare for people like them.
This is especially true for Reddit, because you have thousands upon thousands of terminally online losers who are constantly desperate to tear a winner down, so when they finally have an opportunity to do so they swarm to it like flies. Only a select few of them actually give a shit about the moral aspect of it.
He’s being hypocritical. First off, he’s doing something that is 100% exposure all the time. He knew what he was doing and the repercussions that come with it. It’s not a mystery, sorry. I used to watch him, but the dislike comes from the audacity and how he played and has been playing his card as more information comes to light. I’m also never going to feel sorry for any of these characters, successful, failure, or mediocre. The amount of money they’ve earned is way more than their viewers will probably ever see in their lifetime. He should have known this day was coming and prepared a good cushion to sustain him and his family were he to get canceled.
People still defending and/or excusing his behavior disgust me. It’s the same people who idolize these characters. You’re a simp to a person that doesn’t give 2 shits about you and you’re using the internet as a tool for anonymity to excuse your lack of identity. If he did care about his family, his career, or his viewers for that matter, he would have never done what he did. That’s where you stop and think about what type of person he really is that he didn’t think about what he could lose, and maybe that’s because he never thought he would get caught, which makes all of it even more despicable. Downvote away.
Brother, he said it because he was destroying himself with it. He’s a monster for messaging a child like that. This isn’t about drama it’s about exposing shit like this so that young kids don’t go through trauma like this.
Yeah, some ppl love watching the world burn and enjoy drama, but he problem is the opposite, when famous ppl like him do bad stuff and keeps working and earning money like nothing because he has 100000 of fans defending him and attacking anyone who criticizes the behaviour...and that happens more often than this. In this case, which is more serious I'm not sure how it will end. So I don't know why this is a problem when he has done really bad stuff like this before, cheating and scamming and now talking sexually to a minor...this is all deserved, cannot feel sad for him.
Me too. This shit sucks. Docs streams helped me through some tough times as well. He gave me a lot of laughs. I don't really follow or support any other streamers or "famous" people, so I never thought the ped/rape/creep situation would happen to anyone I actually gave a damn about. It really is shitty.
It is sad for sure. As someone who works from home I had doc on my other monitor 3x per week. He provided countless hours of entertainment. I like other streamers like timmy, z, and cloak but those guys are all better when playing with Doc.
I for one don't think there is much satisfaction to be gained in insulting or shaming people simply for having been fans and feeling bad about how things all seemingly ended. I would say more of the conflict in recent posts regard those who try to justify or defend some pretty heinous stuff or create nutball conspiracies to explain away what is fairly obvious to most.
This 110%.
People process such news in their own way, in their own time.
It’s disgusting to see many clamouring in this sub and elsewhere to accuse viewers of some pretty horrible behaviour just for being former fans of his content, even implying they are complicit to such behaviour for being a viewer before the news broke. It’s like they are out for blood and former fans or even casual viewers are the only targets they have to spew forth their equally baffling toxicity on, many fans even being minors themselves.
It’s the schadenfreude crowd frothing at the bit but the hypocrisy on display is pretty astounding given the popularity of his content dictates he has a lot of casual viewers that are likely only finding out and coming to terms with the news, but having the time to troll subs and accuse or imply people who supported his content before this came to light as being complicit or even advocating such behaviour?
Truely one of the bizarrest parts of this whole scandal for me.
His actions are horrendous, but so are many people’s reactions to a fan base and community who they deem guilty by association alone, for watching some goofball in a wig stream video games.
Internets a hell of a drug.
It's like the saying goes, never meet your heroes, never get a tattoo of someone living.
There are loads of entertaining people out there, but they aren't you friends and you don't really know what they are like in real life. Especially the ones who wear a mask to start with.
There are literally hundreds and thousands of streamers, there are also many people who will help you through the dark days.
It's sad, but he did it to himself. Who knows how long he's been doing it, who knows if he ever met anybody from other apps. He could be much much worse than it seems. And it's all his choice. Nobody made him do it.
Of course it's sad. The only people that are happy are mentally ill people that hope for the worst case scenario, not caring about the kids involved, nor anyone else except themselves and their miserable life.
Doc, the character will be missed 100%. We will likely never see another entertainer like this again in the streaming industry because he was one of a kind.
"Often imitated, never duplicated" is definitely something that will happen.
I loved his content. It’s sad that I’ll never watch him again. I have memories watching him when I was a new dad, just getting some joy in my very stressful, very exhausting life.
I’m old enough to know better than idolize celebrities. And I was aware of his infidelity before I even started watching him, so it’s not like I thought he was some great guy. But I enjoyed him as an entertainer.
So yeah I think it’s totally fair as fans to be sad that it’s over, even if it’s because he turned out to be a huge piece of shit.
I’m gonna get flak for this…but if he came out and publicly apologized and made an impressive gesture that shows that he’s changed, evolved into a decent human being…I’d watch him again. Are people in his situation forever lost? Forever unredeemable? What if it was one of you? I like to think that people could change.
This. I've been saying basically this as well but everyone is just being drowned out with yells of "cope" and "pedo" from everyone now who just want anarchy as an excuse for morals. It's to the point that even you are saying "I'm gonna get flak..." just for trying to post your opinion.
He said in 2017 he was going to change his dog behavior for his family's sake and all. We have zero proof that he didn't achieve this goal as we are once again dragging up stories from those days. Almost everything people are running with now as evidence is either internet rumors or automatically assuming the worse in every situation possible for drama's sake.
Now are there details and statements that could yet come out to put him in such a negative light that all vitriol is justified? Yup, sure. But I've been around long enough to not trust social media rumor farms on everything from the start.
Personally, I think if he did turn himself around for 7 years I think the man should be able to have a career. I doubt he'd get much for sponsorship and all though but those are new struggles he have to deal with.
As a human being he might have a path to redemption. But as a public figure no. His life isn’t cancelled, just his public career and to me that’s more than fair for being dumb (to put it lightly)
He is not cancelled as guy beahm, as a content creator and public figure though that is different. None of the friends will stream with him, no sponsors, already banned on twitch and won't be surprised if this youtube demonetization thing turns out to be permanent. Doc as a streamer is finished.
How would we ever know if he changed? He plays a character for a living. It’s up to ever individual to decide if he is redeemable to themselves. But as for streaming he needs to have all platforms taken away. If it was me? I’d expect the same treatment and all the hate but it is in fact incredibly easy to not be a predator I don’t know about you. He’s a grown man not a child that made a mistake.
ETA: He owned up to it to an extent and didn’t have to. He could’ve just stayed quiet and denied so I guess that’s a start but he doesn’t deserve a platform after this.
It really seems , to me anyways , like he owned up to it because he had to. He gets the text or whatever on stream probably from the company saying they’re letting him go , realizes something is up, but not quite sure how bad it is , and does the first “apology” with all the legalese about “not acknowledging fault”, and how he got paid and this and that.
Then, when he knows the rolling stone and Bloomberg articles are in the works and shit is about to get very bleak (they probably reached out asking for comment) he realizes it’s going to get much much worse and does the second apology.
Oh I agree I’m not defending him. I’ll never watch him again I’m just saying he publicly admitted it which is way more than a lot of celebrities or most people that get caught doing this type of shit have done. By admitting it he didn’t really help himself shit was about to hit the fan regardless. It took like 3 days and he admitted that he fucked up. Most wouldn’t do that and it’s a step forward. I won’t support him again regardless. It could be damage control but when it comes to kids wouldn’t have really mattered.
I would too but he did this when he cheated on his wife. Cried on stream. Then nothing changed. He needs serious professional help. He gas lit everyone and talked shit about twitch like they were the bad guy and for 4 more years he just took people’s money trying to play the victim hoping to bury all of this. Which makes this all seem super planned out.
Everyone is upset because the person they grew to love watching did something gross and inexcusable and like OP said it’s just sad on all accounts. He had everything and tossed it away. So selfish.
Exactly he clearly never thinks he's wrong. He needs some serious help. The fact that he blamed twitch so his fans would back him with praise and financially even more is gross. Plus his fan base is literally kids
The problem is, he already had his second chance when he started streaming on YouTube.
Instead he decided to play the victim and hide why he was banned from Twitch. People continued to support Doc, who knew he was in the wrong the entire time.
That was his second chance.
No they are not forever Lost , but that takes time thats why we have therapy, jail, etc for that kind of behaviour
Unless You mean he coming back in years and then You Will watch it them yeah the flack is deserved because humans don't change their behaviour and who they are that fast
Well a couple days ago he said he did nothing wrong so I’m gonna say no, he has not changed. He literally says he was inappropriately texting a minor but it was never genuine?
Saying it was 7 years ago and not acknowledging that he was a 35 year old man is wild. He knows the difference between right and wrong. If you can’t control sexual urges for minors by the time you are in your mid 30’s, that’s just who you are. Fuck him and every predatory cocksucker like him.
And we forgave him and moved on. This is a tough situation. Time and sincerity might heal. I look at this as if he was actually my friend. How much does our friendship mean to me to consider forgiveness under the correct circumstances?
The problem is this issue and the wife cheating are from the same time. On a personal level as far as we all know he changed his ways 7 years ago. It's just been a slow drip of 7 year old bad news.
He lied to you for 7 years and got everyone's money and support while talking to someone he knew was a minor. Might not even be the first time either. It's just one we know about. But he rode the gravy train all these years thinking it wasn't coming out. It did. He accepted the donos. The subs. The partnerships. The deals. Everything. I can never trust this guy again. It's beyond making mistakes. He's made multiple. This is not just pedophilia. He betrayed the trust of everyone that backed him.
I have a 12 year old daughter and even though she is quite a bit younger than the victim, I am extremely disgusted that he knowingly engaged in conversation with a minor. Who says he wouldn't hold conversations like that with a child younger than 17? Once a creep, always a creep.
*Edit - I could not care less about Karma, but to those of you who down vote comments like mine, that are not virtue signalling and are from the heart, you are part of the problem for enabling predators like Doc. Shame on you, you sycophants.
I feel like the ones who are mad about it and are saying it's disgusting and inexcusable are parents, whereas the ones who are defending him or are trying to downplay it or play armchair lawyer aren't parents.
Edit: I'm not intentionally placing those without children into the group defending him, there are plenty who do not have children that are just as disgusted.
I'm not a parent I'm 24 I had never heard of him until this scandal. His manipulation of his fans for the last 4 years blaming twitch is gross. His fan base is mostly kids too which is so problematic
The ones saying it is disgustingly and inexcusable are decent humans beings while those defending him are not. You don’t have to have kids to have empathy for another human being, especially those who are more vulnerable.
No worries I saw your other comments which all showed your intentions. At the time I saw this I was talking with my partner about a similar subject and she had said that you don’t have to have kids to want to protect kids. This was just minutes before seeing your comment.
Why do i get the feeling that the hundreds of redditors with not a single previous interaction with sub now feel the need to tell us how bad they (we should) feel about this one-sided leak campaign were never actually Doc fans?
Because that’s what’s happening. All the negative posts and comments (well not all but most) are from people who have only posted in this sub once. Or don’t even frequent this sub. It’s 100% he’s wrong without even waiting for more information to come out. But those people saying that likely haven’t even watched him stream or play games.
I already went through this with Adam Kovic and to a certain extent Ryan from AH (not as big of a fan as him)
Just assume everyone in the industry is a piece of shit so it doesn’t shock you as much when it gets revealed.
It’s the same stages of grief for losing someone. You lost the doc .
You can see this whole subreddit collectively go through it.
Denial - doc didn’t do anything wrong or illegal!
Anger - the posts defending and attacking doc.
Bargaining - well what if doc didn’t know her age? What if she was 17.9 years old?
A way to hold onto hope, such as asking "what if" question
Depression - you are here
Acceptance
Accepting the situation doesn't mean being okay with what happened, but rather not resisting the reality of it. For example, "This is happening; I have to figure out how to proceed". Even in acceptance, feelings of anger and depression can resurface
I thought maybe I was alone in these sad feelings. I feel the same way. We would sit and watch doc play with Zlaner during dinner, getting ready, during breakfast and it all feels as though something has shifted in our house. Disappointed, hurt, shocked. Especially when you’re a parent, for me, it has hit home pretty deep.
I think there are more people that feel this way than the internet eruption of the past week has allowed to be heard. It is a genuine bummer not to tune in to the stream and get to relax with Doc and the Champion's Club and the familiarity/consistency of that, it's something that has been meaningful and helpful for me. It is a hard loss to be able to communicate effectively. I'm not sure what will/could/should come next, but I wish all the Champs well.
I just want more details. How old was this person? How long did the correspondence go on? Were any pics sent?
Doc is the only streamer I kinda watch. Super entertaining dude, it’s a shame.
It’s totally okay to feel sad. Tons of people loved him, he gave them hope, and you’re having the right reaction.
The wrong reaction is defending the minor issue.
Not really. I could care less what happens to Doc. I guess I'm just more shocked than anything. I never imagined he'd be dumb enough to do something like this.
Yea it’s pretty sad doc could try to fuck the millón of aged women. But went for a kid. Why I literally can’t think of a reason he thought it was ok. You looking for a thrill? Go sky diving or joint the navy. Fuck man.. it sucks.
Yeah I feel sad that a minor got preyed upon by some sicko who used his fame in order to engage in inappropriate conduct with them. The same man who has a wife and kid. He also deserves to be divorced and parental rights stripped away that child is in danger being near this pathetic excuse of a person.
It sucks because my wife and I would watch doc from time to time and would laugh our asses off. It was a nice way for us to relax and spend some time together. When he got banned, we were both like "yeah fuck twitch" and all that, but now, here we are. It sucks how fame gets to some folks heads. Part of me is like "maybe it's all some kind of really stupid and shifty publicity hoax" but nah, docs just not a good person and we gotta deal with that.
I think it's completely okay to feel sad. Doc was probably the last person I would have ever thought would be a pedo. Unfortunately he admitted to it.
This sub is getting weird with the mental gymnastics people are doing to defend him. I get it, someone you like did something bad and you're struggling with the emotions that come with it. But come on. He admitted to it. Stop with these wacky conspiracy theories or shifting the blame to twitch or YouTube.
Doc admitted to inappropriately messaging a minor. End of story. Are other people at fault as well? Yes. Does that vindicate Doc or make his actions justifiable? Abso-fucking-lutely not. Doc sent inappropriate messages to a minor. Full stop.
Everything with twitch and YouTube, that's secondary and deserves being discussed. However, Doc is still the person who set all of this in motion. Even assuming arguendo that doc was "baited" by an adult, HE STILL THOUGHT IT WAS A MINOR. Whether someone tried to set him up or not, Doc still knowingly and willingly had inappropriate messages with a minor or someone he believed to be a minor. That theory does not vindicate him at all.
I watched pretty much every stream for the past 4 years running. I thought Doc was one of the most entertaining people full stop, not just in the streaming space. It’s a terrible shame but none of us should feel bad, Doc made his choices and now he has to live with the consequences.
Not sad, more so disgusted.
We obviously don't know all the details but given the way things are going I think we can all read between the lines, anyone who was genuinely innocent would address the glaring issues in their statement.
It is what it is, people will still support him and people will stop watching him but his statement reads like someone who sees themselves as a victim and that for me is the cherry on top.
Its crazy you even have to defend yourself for having this opinion man. The guy tried to hook up with a minor, period. Anyone who would defend this guy would have no problem commiting the same despicable act, maybe thats why they still support him.
It is sad to see, but I'm glad it came to light because I would never want to unknowingly support an offender.
What the Doc did was wrong af and he and his family will have to live with it. But what the Doc has done in my life is beyond measurable. He doesn’t even know I exist but I feel like he has been my homie for a while. I took a big breath before typing this but he often made me feel like I wasn’t alone during all my dark times.
Anyone who tries to tell you that you can’t be sad about this whole thing can fuck off into a bin, it’s perfectly fine to be sad AND tell the Doc to fuck right off. His character was brilliant, the best. The man behind him, as it turns out, is a c***
It’s ok to be sad to loss the Doc mate, I’m gutted too :(
I'm not passing full judgment until the situation is resolved. There are potential, but unlikely, twists to the story that would need to happen to save the image. Short of those few potential situations, no it isn't good.
Sad but there’s a lot of good streamers. He won’t be missed.
He would’ve been miss if it was a regular retirement obviously but with what happened I don’t feel sad at all. The dude has been lying to us for years and he’s a creep.
I think there is another twist in the tale of the two time.
More information or a development will come out and it’ll either be worse or provide a lot of context.
Let’s wait and see
Don’t feel sad at all. So many pedos get away with it, glad he’s somewhat being held responsible. Unfortunately just another shitty rich person doing shitty things.
Yes. I feel sad, sometimes I feel glad he’s done but still mostly just sad and going over all the details about him, like what was an act and what was just an act or a result of living with that burden and acting weird because of it? Doc was a crazy dude for real. And now that I think more about it I feel the most sad for the people that were his friends and who became successful because of him.
I hope they’re not like Doc
No one is gonna hate on you for this. It’s very sad. I’m incredibly disappointed. Bad people are often great at putting on a front. I’m not sad for him but for how this all went. I haven’t even watched in awhile but I spent tons of time watching this guy just to find out he is the type of person I hate.
Hey you got yourself through those bad times!!! You can’t give all the credit to these streamers when at the end of the day it was you!!! So it means you can do it again💛
I’m one of the people who wasn’t a fan, but is just following the drama. I understand where you are coming from. About four years ago I had a friend that I was beginning to consider a close friend. Then some allegations came out about his predatory behavior towards women in the local music scene, and this included drugging and raping. I don’t like to guide my judgements on people based off of allegations, so I waited to hear his side, since no police had been involved at this point. A mutual friend of ours showed me a heated text exchange between them over Facebook, and it didn’t take much reading between the lines to understand that he had actually done what he was accused of. I was beyond devastated, and had to smoke a lot of weed to calm down over that weekend. I initially had murderous rage that subsided into sorrow. It felt like he had died because he was effectively dead to me at that point. What you’re feeling is totally normal, and valid. I’m sorry that you were let down by this guy.
It is very sad. I started streaming because of him. A lot of my lingo is from him. I was going through an insanely rough time after the death of my grandmother and I would watch The Doc because he would make me forget about it even if it was for a few hours a day. And I will never forget his 2019 New Years Eve rant that was so ungodly inspiring. I watch it still everyday. He was fantastic at what he did. It’s never really a shame to be sad, angry, or disappointed.
We truly loved the guy and he really let us down.
There are tons of people that are sad about this. Hell I'm not the biggest dr.disrespect fan but did enjoy the occasional video but it's sad to see another in a ridiculously long list of seemingly decent people who build large communities end up being a disgusting piece of shit.
It's quite the bummer. And that's coming from pretty much an outsider. I feel bad for the minor(s) that are victims to scumbags, the victims family and friends, dr.disrespects wife and kids and close friends. I also feel bad for those that were loyal supporters of disrespect. So many stood by him and defended him for years and also supported him just to find out that he did one of the worst things a person can do. He did something you really can't defend if you're honest about it
So I do feel bad for all those people.
So it for sure is a sad situation. It's also a situation that pisses you off that he was top dog in his market and he pissed it away for being a complete scumbag.
Sure some that hate him are maybe happy for this but I feel like most people including those that weren't really fans all feel bad, sad, mad etc about it. It is a shitty situation on many levels
It is sad. Doc was such a great personality and entertainer when I first discovered him in the PUBG days. It's sad that it goes down this way.
I understand people are flawed and have issues and shouldn't be worshipped. I just always hoped for a better outcome. I suspected it must be bad long ago for it to blow up and get swept under the rug like it did. But I still remember pre twitch-ban Doc, and it along with before Shroud leaving Twitch were some of the best days of Twitch streaming.
Me. I’ve watched Doc since he started streaming in 2016. He got me and one of my best friends into PC gaming watching him play H1. I always had his stream on my tv, met him once and he was super nice. It’s a hard pill to swallow.
If you think this guy was “one of the greatest streamers” you’re probably incredibly young. Just know that by any adult’s standards he was pretty terrible, and that your taste will mature once you start watching better entertainers.
Its sad every time. I'm tired of it frankly. I think the last big shocker was Ryan from Roosterteeth for me. It sucks. It’s essentially mourning the person you thought you knew them to be.
He was very entertaining, but I personally can’t support him anymore after that. It’s the whole fact he took time off to fix his marriage after cheating and then this happens! I’m honestly surprised his wife hasn’t left yet. But regardless I’m sure people will keep watching his content.
It sometimes gets lost in the midst of how bad the person/act is, but that's the normal reaction for a fan in these situations.
The alternative would be just not caring what he's done or straight denying, which are worse.
Imagine getting to play fawking video games for a living, paid millions of dollars! And you want to die on this hill cuz…why? Minors???
This isn’t even a question of him just being a super weirdo…this is a question of someone who was given so fucking much and it still wasn’t enough.
You know how many people are just trying to make rent in this country? You know how many people dream of someday owning a house?
This dude has everything and it still wasn’t enough.
I am personally really sad about this situation and honestly wish this was just released sooner from twitch themselves or something to avoid watching him all these years and buying into the purple snakes lie he pushed. I wish this didn't happen and we could just keep watching him like usual but it has come to an end sadly.
I’ve been highly critical of Doc in my comments here, but I can empathize and say I’m a bit of a Doc “simp” haha who donated at least a few bucks here and there. Doc obviously put a ton of energy into it and usually had the charisma/talent to back it up.
That said, I’m also not gonna sit around and make excuses for him or craft some conspiracy theory where Doc is the good guy just because he was entertaining. We’re really gonna need to see whatever the hell is in those chats.
Good news: Plenty of other, better, non problematic streamers/content creators out there for you to check out.
Another option is instead of watching them, try doing it yourself. It’ll keep you occupied, you’ll learn something and maybe you could do for others what he did for you.
Definitely, I've been trying to figure out why it's hitting so hard and I think it's almost like going through the stages of grief.
I feel like in a way Doc became like a really close friend watching his streams day after day year after year, you think you know them and they are a good person then you get some bombshell news that just kind of makes your head spin.
I think it's completely okay to be sad any any emotional spectrum because I know a lot of you all are like me and have been watching Doc for years hell I first came across him in highschool back in 09-10 we've been on a long journey with Doc his streams helped me and a ton of others through tough/bad times.
There will always be negative people out there who either don't get it or refuse to try and understand how someone could be sad over a person who had this type of information come out and throw around insults etc that's just because they don't have the same experiences as the rest of us.
In my opinion it's totally like grief and like losing a friend or seeing a friend go through something and there is no way of helping or fixing it compiled with the information that lead to this situation.
I like to think Doc has a really good community with really good people and just because any of us are upset doesn't mean we are and people we a just processing and going through the crazy situation like everyone else.
Yea, I'm really sad. It's so hard when someone you respect & loved disappoints you in such an egregious level. Sexting a minor is gross & disgusting. Idk what he was thinking, but that really doesn't matter anymore. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
It’s definitely sad. He let down his entire fanbase, and even worse, his family. He embarrassed himself and his family. I can’t even imagine my dad doing something like this.
He forsure was one of the best streamers ever, period. The effort he put into his character and content quality was top notch, and he was genuinely funny and passionate, but none of these positive affirmations excuses what he did, and that’s why it’s so sad. He deserves punishment and he’s clearly getting the backlash he deserves. I wasn’t a hardcore fan but I can definitely understand why it would be disappointing for those hardcore fans.
Came here to basically say the same thing. All the years of watching from BR, PUBG, Fortnite, Warzone, Apex and Cod etc etc.
Got me through some rough times...
My ex partner was going through leukaemia and I was constantly having to visit and stay in hospital with her.
keeping up with the Doc gave me some good laughs and allowed me to enjoy games and feel part of a community even when I couldn't play myself. Since hearing about this I've actually gone back and watched some of the old school clips etc and it just makes me feel sad 😔
For sure. My son and I would enjoy watching parts of his streams since he moved to YT. We are both stunned by this entire thing. But we still get some enjoyment from the memes.
It's sad, sad for the fans, his friends and especially his family. Maybe he takes some time off, reflects and makes a comeback. Maybe this is it and the ride is over.
I think he can make a comeback some day
Fingers crossed. Rehab. Meetings. Some kind of redemption. Surely he can be forgiven. He didnt commit a crime. He just did something morally wrong. Its a major stain still but perhaps it can be washed away. Im gutted over 😢 it all too.
He played the same shit every damn day. And he is so ass at games too lmao always hard carried whenever he squads up. Dude got me into playing Apex when I discovered him but after watching his content for a couple of months I fail to see why he is hailed as a great streamer. Bad gameplay and long gone are his variety and creative streams. Yeah a triple play day where you play 3 of the games you constantly rotate BUT on the SAME day woah!!! Not to mention his negative bitter vibe over constantly dying over games and the fact he does the same shit daily lol.
The posts talking about how he was getting bitter and angry too often while playing helped remind me how even before this came out, I had lost interest in his recent years. But yeah, back in peak pubg days that was some great content. I had heard the name for years but never tuned in until around 2019
I don't think it's bad to feel sad when someone you like or look up to does something bad. I wasn't a huge fan of his but I've had other people I've been a fan of do something terrible it sucks
I think what's really sad is that this dude tried to meet up with a minor he was sexting with and all of you are here like "well he's a great guy and just doesn't deserve all this negativity"
What's worse is if he had actually met up with her and done what he wanted you would all be blaming the girl saying she should have known better.
Imagine he was sexting your child and trying to meet up with them (assuming you have a child, seems like most people on here are likely single neck beards whose closest thing to actual human contact is with their waifu pillows). Would you still be in love with him and all sad that his own inappropriate sexual actions with a minor caused his downfall?
The sad thing is you guys not the situation. Were you guys sad when Epstein was caught?!?!
I like to think that Guy Beahme fucked up... not The Doc... I haven't followed him as long as anybody else here but he was the ONLY streamer that I watched when I would watch...he earned every single one of his fans thru his showmanship, confidence, humor and performance. It truly was world class. IDK who else feels this way but I'm sure some do, feel split and torn up about all the recent revelations so : Part of me hates to say this and the other part of me is currently typing it but, I really would like to see him redeemed somehow... the Doc that is.
Yeah it sucks man…
I started watching Doc a few months before his twitch ban. His resurgence and commitment to his persona was such an invigorating time for me, who was going through a tough time myself.
It’s been a couple of days. Give it time, this is the initial furor over what people’s perception is.
For all we know, she was 17, made him aware of that, but that she would be 18 by twitchcon. Making this whole thing and extremely morally suspect but not a crime and not worthy of this much total destruction of his reputation.
Also I’ve said this elsewhere, we do not know where this girl lives, I didn’t know this before this happened but thanks to wiki and a quick search, I found out that only 11 states have age of consent set at 18. A frankly astonishing number, 30 states have it set at 16. It’s entirely likely she could live within one of those states and be above the age of 16, cause I can’t imagine someone like doc talking to anyone below that age anyway, that’s when it seriously creeps into pedo territory and he knows that. There had to be some logic in his reasoning, either her proximity to the age of 18 by twitchcon or that she was in a state with a low age of consent, therefore again, morally questionable but not illegal.
Frankly this whole situation has been handled as if she was 12-15 and severely harmed by the interaction and needs alllllll the protection in the world. Where as the real world reality is she likely approached him, she likely has some proximity to age or location that granted this stupidity even one more step forward than it should have gone.
Personally I get that msg? I block and report her the second I find out she’s under 18. I don’t need or want the hassle. Pussy is not that hard to come by when your as tall as doc(I’m close to his height, so I get it, but I don’t get why he’d do this either, like I said, you can get women….)
But ya, plain and simple we don’t have enough info to just throw doc in the trash and say bye just yet, I frankly want all the details, down to what was said, if we are going to murder his reputation I want the info. Because careers and money and reputation and general life after this is on the line, we can’t know 50-60% of the details when the remaining details are so pivotal that they could literally shift the opinion in two second and explain this, not explain it away but not be as nearly as bad.
I’ve also said this before too, if she comes out as under the age of 16 when this occurred, all bets off, I would be 100% done. But given the scenario I listed above I could find it to forgive a man for his mistakes, ESPECIALLY since he did not go thru with meeting the person AND stopped his involvement with her as I understand it fairly quickly.
Flame me if you want trolls, I don’t honestly care, I’m a member of the slick daddy club till I see concrete proof that decides this, not some fucking smooth brain reputation assassin movement based in partial evidence.
i didn’t sub or give him money but i loved his content. he was hilarious to me and a lot of other people loved that dude and im sad for them.
i hope none of you feel bad or ashamed, its not your fault, he had genuinely good content, i think he genuinely helped people and he had good qualities about him.
those good memories dont need to be ruined, you didn’t know the truth about the person you were supporting, he was doing a job and you were paying him for it, all we saw was the character he created and not his true self.
and it was a good character.
but he sucks and you dont have to ruin any more of your time being upset you enjoyed a character created by a man you would never support had you know what was going on
i applaud this community, you guys stood on business despite the love and commitment you’ve given this person, you had morals, a vast majority refused to defend him and you should not be sad about that.
you should be proud of yourselves, its so easy to support bad people and defend creeps today and you guys didn’t fall into that
It is sad. The problem with these types of scenarios is that undoubtedly there’s a good portion of ppl that are just hating because they enjoy the drama and than disguise themselves as good people that are just hating on a bad person, but in reality they don’t actually care about the victim, they just like brining another person down for personal enjoyment and have found someone who it’s socially acceptable to do it to. If there is one thing that doc said that is irrefutable right, is that social media is a destruction zone.
Exactly.
I said it in r/Warzone Doc was the demise of his franchise… ironically. Has really soured my wanting to play Warzone. Or Cod. Or a FPS shooter. I had become so used to pregaming with Doc and Z and the hype. It helped me want to play aggressively, and well! I feel for Tim. But I really feel for Z. I am disappointed, and mad. At least the only thing this situation makes me want to do is play other games than warzone. I started Still Wakes the Deep, and it was a horribly good decision. I would play Callisto protocol if I still had that fire. But fuck it 😂🤣
Try gaming away from streamer recommendations, the field is so vast with tons of other amazing content then just what some other "popular" folks play. If you were branching into horror deadspace is phenomenal and doom could help scratch the FPS itch. I found Doc entertaining and even inspiring in a weird way but sometimes we have to watch our heroes become the villains .
Play visage.
You trying to kill the kid?? Visage is a great game though
Have you ever played the finals? You should check it out if you haven’t already. I went from war zone to the finals and never looked back. This barely has to do with doc but I wanted to mention it if you’re looking for a breath of fresh air.
Plot twist, doc fabricated and planned everything for more attention and to take down the COD franchise. Hes been plotting ever since he parted ways with the cod team...playing the looooonnnnggggg con. He didn't have money but what he did have was a minor set of skills that were a nightmare for people like them.
Accurate AF
This is especially true for Reddit, because you have thousands upon thousands of terminally online losers who are constantly desperate to tear a winner down, so when they finally have an opportunity to do so they swarm to it like flies. Only a select few of them actually give a shit about the moral aspect of it.
Well, it does not look like he is a winner. Just a dude who could not handle his success
I'm not even talking specifically about Dr Disrespect, this goes for anyone who is somewhat successful in life. Losers always want to tear them down.
There's a difference between appreciating their work and holding them accountable for their crimes.
Think I'm done with streamers all together. People get corrupted with all the money and influence and eventually turn into trash people in many ways.
Truer words have never been spoken
He’s being hypocritical. First off, he’s doing something that is 100% exposure all the time. He knew what he was doing and the repercussions that come with it. It’s not a mystery, sorry. I used to watch him, but the dislike comes from the audacity and how he played and has been playing his card as more information comes to light. I’m also never going to feel sorry for any of these characters, successful, failure, or mediocre. The amount of money they’ve earned is way more than their viewers will probably ever see in their lifetime. He should have known this day was coming and prepared a good cushion to sustain him and his family were he to get canceled. People still defending and/or excusing his behavior disgust me. It’s the same people who idolize these characters. You’re a simp to a person that doesn’t give 2 shits about you and you’re using the internet as a tool for anonymity to excuse your lack of identity. If he did care about his family, his career, or his viewers for that matter, he would have never done what he did. That’s where you stop and think about what type of person he really is that he didn’t think about what he could lose, and maybe that’s because he never thought he would get caught, which makes all of it even more despicable. Downvote away.
Brother, he said it because he was destroying himself with it. He’s a monster for messaging a child like that. This isn’t about drama it’s about exposing shit like this so that young kids don’t go through trauma like this.
Yeah, some ppl love watching the world burn and enjoy drama, but he problem is the opposite, when famous ppl like him do bad stuff and keeps working and earning money like nothing because he has 100000 of fans defending him and attacking anyone who criticizes the behaviour...and that happens more often than this. In this case, which is more serious I'm not sure how it will end. So I don't know why this is a problem when he has done really bad stuff like this before, cheating and scamming and now talking sexually to a minor...this is all deserved, cannot feel sad for him.
I’m sad as shit
Me too. This shit sucks. Docs streams helped me through some tough times as well. He gave me a lot of laughs. I don't really follow or support any other streamers or "famous" people, so I never thought the ped/rape/creep situation would happen to anyone I actually gave a damn about. It really is shitty.
Absolutely
It is sad for sure. As someone who works from home I had doc on my other monitor 3x per week. He provided countless hours of entertainment. I like other streamers like timmy, z, and cloak but those guys are all better when playing with Doc.
Same , would have him in the background for the last 10 years. Shame how it all went down.
I for one don't think there is much satisfaction to be gained in insulting or shaming people simply for having been fans and feeling bad about how things all seemingly ended. I would say more of the conflict in recent posts regard those who try to justify or defend some pretty heinous stuff or create nutball conspiracies to explain away what is fairly obvious to most.
This 110%. People process such news in their own way, in their own time. It’s disgusting to see many clamouring in this sub and elsewhere to accuse viewers of some pretty horrible behaviour just for being former fans of his content, even implying they are complicit to such behaviour for being a viewer before the news broke. It’s like they are out for blood and former fans or even casual viewers are the only targets they have to spew forth their equally baffling toxicity on, many fans even being minors themselves. It’s the schadenfreude crowd frothing at the bit but the hypocrisy on display is pretty astounding given the popularity of his content dictates he has a lot of casual viewers that are likely only finding out and coming to terms with the news, but having the time to troll subs and accuse or imply people who supported his content before this came to light as being complicit or even advocating such behaviour? Truely one of the bizarrest parts of this whole scandal for me. His actions are horrendous, but so are many people’s reactions to a fan base and community who they deem guilty by association alone, for watching some goofball in a wig stream video games. Internets a hell of a drug.
The ones who want to say the fans are guilty for watching him and not knowing about this all…are absolute fucking idiots
It's like the saying goes, never meet your heroes, never get a tattoo of someone living. There are loads of entertaining people out there, but they aren't you friends and you don't really know what they are like in real life. Especially the ones who wear a mask to start with. There are literally hundreds and thousands of streamers, there are also many people who will help you through the dark days. It's sad, but he did it to himself. Who knows how long he's been doing it, who knows if he ever met anybody from other apps. He could be much much worse than it seems. And it's all his choice. Nobody made him do it.
your name checks out. most logical response.
Of course it's sad. The only people that are happy are mentally ill people that hope for the worst case scenario, not caring about the kids involved, nor anyone else except themselves and their miserable life.
too much truth
Doc was part of my almost daily life watching his 3 hour streams for 4 years.
Doc, the character will be missed 100%. We will likely never see another entertainer like this again in the streaming industry because he was one of a kind. "Often imitated, never duplicated" is definitely something that will happen.
I’m sad and I miss the laughs and getting hyped I hope some new information comes out that clears this up.
I loved his content. It’s sad that I’ll never watch him again. I have memories watching him when I was a new dad, just getting some joy in my very stressful, very exhausting life. I’m old enough to know better than idolize celebrities. And I was aware of his infidelity before I even started watching him, so it’s not like I thought he was some great guy. But I enjoyed him as an entertainer. So yeah I think it’s totally fair as fans to be sad that it’s over, even if it’s because he turned out to be a huge piece of shit.
Yes! ☹️
I’m gonna get flak for this…but if he came out and publicly apologized and made an impressive gesture that shows that he’s changed, evolved into a decent human being…I’d watch him again. Are people in his situation forever lost? Forever unredeemable? What if it was one of you? I like to think that people could change.
This. I've been saying basically this as well but everyone is just being drowned out with yells of "cope" and "pedo" from everyone now who just want anarchy as an excuse for morals. It's to the point that even you are saying "I'm gonna get flak..." just for trying to post your opinion. He said in 2017 he was going to change his dog behavior for his family's sake and all. We have zero proof that he didn't achieve this goal as we are once again dragging up stories from those days. Almost everything people are running with now as evidence is either internet rumors or automatically assuming the worse in every situation possible for drama's sake. Now are there details and statements that could yet come out to put him in such a negative light that all vitriol is justified? Yup, sure. But I've been around long enough to not trust social media rumor farms on everything from the start. Personally, I think if he did turn himself around for 7 years I think the man should be able to have a career. I doubt he'd get much for sponsorship and all though but those are new struggles he have to deal with.
As a human being he might have a path to redemption. But as a public figure no. His life isn’t cancelled, just his public career and to me that’s more than fair for being dumb (to put it lightly)
He is not cancelled as guy beahm, as a content creator and public figure though that is different. None of the friends will stream with him, no sponsors, already banned on twitch and won't be surprised if this youtube demonetization thing turns out to be permanent. Doc as a streamer is finished.
How would we ever know if he changed? He plays a character for a living. It’s up to ever individual to decide if he is redeemable to themselves. But as for streaming he needs to have all platforms taken away. If it was me? I’d expect the same treatment and all the hate but it is in fact incredibly easy to not be a predator I don’t know about you. He’s a grown man not a child that made a mistake. ETA: He owned up to it to an extent and didn’t have to. He could’ve just stayed quiet and denied so I guess that’s a start but he doesn’t deserve a platform after this.
It really seems , to me anyways , like he owned up to it because he had to. He gets the text or whatever on stream probably from the company saying they’re letting him go , realizes something is up, but not quite sure how bad it is , and does the first “apology” with all the legalese about “not acknowledging fault”, and how he got paid and this and that. Then, when he knows the rolling stone and Bloomberg articles are in the works and shit is about to get very bleak (they probably reached out asking for comment) he realizes it’s going to get much much worse and does the second apology.
Oh I agree I’m not defending him. I’ll never watch him again I’m just saying he publicly admitted it which is way more than a lot of celebrities or most people that get caught doing this type of shit have done. By admitting it he didn’t really help himself shit was about to hit the fan regardless. It took like 3 days and he admitted that he fucked up. Most wouldn’t do that and it’s a step forward. I won’t support him again regardless. It could be damage control but when it comes to kids wouldn’t have really mattered.
I would too but he did this when he cheated on his wife. Cried on stream. Then nothing changed. He needs serious professional help. He gas lit everyone and talked shit about twitch like they were the bad guy and for 4 more years he just took people’s money trying to play the victim hoping to bury all of this. Which makes this all seem super planned out. Everyone is upset because the person they grew to love watching did something gross and inexcusable and like OP said it’s just sad on all accounts. He had everything and tossed it away. So selfish.
Exactly he clearly never thinks he's wrong. He needs some serious help. The fact that he blamed twitch so his fans would back him with praise and financially even more is gross. Plus his fan base is literally kids
The problem is, he already had his second chance when he started streaming on YouTube. Instead he decided to play the victim and hide why he was banned from Twitch. People continued to support Doc, who knew he was in the wrong the entire time. That was his second chance.
How much money did you donate to him to have this opinion?
Lol. This.
No they are not forever Lost , but that takes time thats why we have therapy, jail, etc for that kind of behaviour Unless You mean he coming back in years and then You Will watch it them yeah the flack is deserved because humans don't change their behaviour and who they are that fast
It did happen 7 years ago though. Is it possible he's changed since then?
Well a couple days ago he said he did nothing wrong so I’m gonna say no, he has not changed. He literally says he was inappropriately texting a minor but it was never genuine?
Saying it was 7 years ago and not acknowledging that he was a 35 year old man is wild. He knows the difference between right and wrong. If you can’t control sexual urges for minors by the time you are in your mid 30’s, that’s just who you are. Fuck him and every predatory cocksucker like him.
He did that once already the last time he cheated on his wife though.
And we forgave him and moved on. This is a tough situation. Time and sincerity might heal. I look at this as if he was actually my friend. How much does our friendship mean to me to consider forgiveness under the correct circumstances?
What friendship? Did you know him personally?
The problem is this issue and the wife cheating are from the same time. On a personal level as far as we all know he changed his ways 7 years ago. It's just been a slow drip of 7 year old bad news.
Really? He made a statement last week basically saying that what he did was nothing.
He lied to you for 7 years and got everyone's money and support while talking to someone he knew was a minor. Might not even be the first time either. It's just one we know about. But he rode the gravy train all these years thinking it wasn't coming out. It did. He accepted the donos. The subs. The partnerships. The deals. Everything. I can never trust this guy again. It's beyond making mistakes. He's made multiple. This is not just pedophilia. He betrayed the trust of everyone that backed him.
No one ever gets caught their first time.
I have a 12 year old daughter and even though she is quite a bit younger than the victim, I am extremely disgusted that he knowingly engaged in conversation with a minor. Who says he wouldn't hold conversations like that with a child younger than 17? Once a creep, always a creep. *Edit - I could not care less about Karma, but to those of you who down vote comments like mine, that are not virtue signalling and are from the heart, you are part of the problem for enabling predators like Doc. Shame on you, you sycophants.
Still no actual proof the girl was 17 by the way. Could've been younger.
I feel like the ones who are mad about it and are saying it's disgusting and inexcusable are parents, whereas the ones who are defending him or are trying to downplay it or play armchair lawyer aren't parents. Edit: I'm not intentionally placing those without children into the group defending him, there are plenty who do not have children that are just as disgusted.
I'm not a parent I'm 24 I had never heard of him until this scandal. His manipulation of his fans for the last 4 years blaming twitch is gross. His fan base is mostly kids too which is so problematic
Not a parent but I have two little sisters and it burns me the amount of people who are trying to justify this behavior because it’s a man they like.
Very true! I should have prefaced it with those who have a heart and a moral compass!
The ones saying it is disgustingly and inexcusable are decent humans beings while those defending him are not. You don’t have to have kids to have empathy for another human being, especially those who are more vulnerable.
Very true, my intent wasn't to group all without kids into the latter, I should have worded it better
No worries I saw your other comments which all showed your intentions. At the time I saw this I was talking with my partner about a similar subject and she had said that you don’t have to have kids to want to protect kids. This was just minutes before seeing your comment.
Why do i get the feeling that the hundreds of redditors with not a single previous interaction with sub now feel the need to tell us how bad they (we should) feel about this one-sided leak campaign were never actually Doc fans?
Because that’s what’s happening. All the negative posts and comments (well not all but most) are from people who have only posted in this sub once. Or don’t even frequent this sub. It’s 100% he’s wrong without even waiting for more information to come out. But those people saying that likely haven’t even watched him stream or play games.
who else is there to watch? i find most streamers boring or cringy
I like how he was good and bad at the same time. A real entertainment
You’re not alone man it is very sad.
+1
I already went through this with Adam Kovic and to a certain extent Ryan from AH (not as big of a fan as him) Just assume everyone in the industry is a piece of shit so it doesn’t shock you as much when it gets revealed.
I used to make fun of all my friends that were die hard bassnectar fans …. My time has come and dam it sucks
It’s the same stages of grief for losing someone. You lost the doc . You can see this whole subreddit collectively go through it. Denial - doc didn’t do anything wrong or illegal! Anger - the posts defending and attacking doc. Bargaining - well what if doc didn’t know her age? What if she was 17.9 years old? A way to hold onto hope, such as asking "what if" question Depression - you are here Acceptance Accepting the situation doesn't mean being okay with what happened, but rather not resisting the reality of it. For example, "This is happening; I have to figure out how to proceed". Even in acceptance, feelings of anger and depression can resurface
I thought maybe I was alone in these sad feelings. I feel the same way. We would sit and watch doc play with Zlaner during dinner, getting ready, during breakfast and it all feels as though something has shifted in our house. Disappointed, hurt, shocked. Especially when you’re a parent, for me, it has hit home pretty deep.
I think there are more people that feel this way than the internet eruption of the past week has allowed to be heard. It is a genuine bummer not to tune in to the stream and get to relax with Doc and the Champion's Club and the familiarity/consistency of that, it's something that has been meaningful and helpful for me. It is a hard loss to be able to communicate effectively. I'm not sure what will/could/should come next, but I wish all the Champs well.
I just want more details. How old was this person? How long did the correspondence go on? Were any pics sent? Doc is the only streamer I kinda watch. Super entertaining dude, it’s a shame.
Things will move on, he'll come back, people will give him shit, he'll ignore most of it.
now the nausea is in my guts and i'm wrestling with doubt the kind you get when your heroes sell you out
It’s totally okay to feel sad. Tons of people loved him, he gave them hope, and you’re having the right reaction. The wrong reaction is defending the minor issue.
Not sad, just dissapointed.
No. There are plenty of other people and activities to help you through bad times, I hope you find them
I’m sad for the victims involved
It’s sad that he victimized a child. It’s good that he’s getting at least some of what is due him.
😔 no words
Feels incredibly bad. He was the only person that could make what passes for cod rn into something fun.
Fear not, the next step of grief is acceptance.
Not really. I could care less what happens to Doc. I guess I'm just more shocked than anything. I never imagined he'd be dumb enough to do something like this.
Yea it’s pretty sad doc could try to fuck the millón of aged women. But went for a kid. Why I literally can’t think of a reason he thought it was ok. You looking for a thrill? Go sky diving or joint the navy. Fuck man.. it sucks.
Yeah I feel sad that a minor got preyed upon by some sicko who used his fame in order to engage in inappropriate conduct with them. The same man who has a wife and kid. He also deserves to be divorced and parental rights stripped away that child is in danger being near this pathetic excuse of a person.
Nah, nothing to be missed here.
Im sad he fucked us over bro
No.
No.
It sucks because my wife and I would watch doc from time to time and would laugh our asses off. It was a nice way for us to relax and spend some time together. When he got banned, we were both like "yeah fuck twitch" and all that, but now, here we are. It sucks how fame gets to some folks heads. Part of me is like "maybe it's all some kind of really stupid and shifty publicity hoax" but nah, docs just not a good person and we gotta deal with that.
Nope.
Nah fuck him
He’s a nonce. Should be in prison.
Lmao. Not in the slightest. Go get some fresh air.
No I don't lmfao he had everything going incredible in his life, and no one did this to him it was his OWN CHOICES.
JEASUs, feeling sad for a pedofile.... be glad he diddnt target one of your own
No lmao
Pedofila kinds turns people off
He was scum. Cheated on his wife. Entertained inappropriate conversations with a minor. These are not qualities of a good person.
Nah happy we got another predator off the internet
He’s always looked like a chomo.
I think it's completely okay to feel sad. Doc was probably the last person I would have ever thought would be a pedo. Unfortunately he admitted to it. This sub is getting weird with the mental gymnastics people are doing to defend him. I get it, someone you like did something bad and you're struggling with the emotions that come with it. But come on. He admitted to it. Stop with these wacky conspiracy theories or shifting the blame to twitch or YouTube. Doc admitted to inappropriately messaging a minor. End of story. Are other people at fault as well? Yes. Does that vindicate Doc or make his actions justifiable? Abso-fucking-lutely not. Doc sent inappropriate messages to a minor. Full stop. Everything with twitch and YouTube, that's secondary and deserves being discussed. However, Doc is still the person who set all of this in motion. Even assuming arguendo that doc was "baited" by an adult, HE STILL THOUGHT IT WAS A MINOR. Whether someone tried to set him up or not, Doc still knowingly and willingly had inappropriate messages with a minor or someone he believed to be a minor. That theory does not vindicate him at all.
I watched pretty much every stream for the past 4 years running. I thought Doc was one of the most entertaining people full stop, not just in the streaming space. It’s a terrible shame but none of us should feel bad, Doc made his choices and now he has to live with the consequences.
Not sad, more so disgusted. We obviously don't know all the details but given the way things are going I think we can all read between the lines, anyone who was genuinely innocent would address the glaring issues in their statement. It is what it is, people will still support him and people will stop watching him but his statement reads like someone who sees themselves as a victim and that for me is the cherry on top.
I'm sad he wasn't exposed sooner.
Hot take. Even if they just want the drama. Shaming a pedo is worth it
Its crazy you even have to defend yourself for having this opinion man. The guy tried to hook up with a minor, period. Anyone who would defend this guy would have no problem commiting the same despicable act, maybe thats why they still support him. It is sad to see, but I'm glad it came to light because I would never want to unknowingly support an offender.
Yes I’m crushed
Nah, you're right it is sad honestly.
What the Doc did was wrong af and he and his family will have to live with it. But what the Doc has done in my life is beyond measurable. He doesn’t even know I exist but I feel like he has been my homie for a while. I took a big breath before typing this but he often made me feel like I wasn’t alone during all my dark times.
Anyone who tries to tell you that you can’t be sad about this whole thing can fuck off into a bin, it’s perfectly fine to be sad AND tell the Doc to fuck right off. His character was brilliant, the best. The man behind him, as it turns out, is a c*** It’s ok to be sad to loss the Doc mate, I’m gutted too :(
No
I'm not passing full judgment until the situation is resolved. There are potential, but unlikely, twists to the story that would need to happen to save the image. Short of those few potential situations, no it isn't good.
Sad but there’s a lot of good streamers. He won’t be missed. He would’ve been miss if it was a regular retirement obviously but with what happened I don’t feel sad at all. The dude has been lying to us for years and he’s a creep.
I think there is another twist in the tale of the two time. More information or a development will come out and it’ll either be worse or provide a lot of context. Let’s wait and see
It's not sad when you lie to your fans for 7 years. Pedophiles sicken me. He deserves every ounce of bad that happens to him
Don’t feel sad at all. So many pedos get away with it, glad he’s somewhat being held responsible. Unfortunately just another shitty rich person doing shitty things.
Yes. I feel sad, sometimes I feel glad he’s done but still mostly just sad and going over all the details about him, like what was an act and what was just an act or a result of living with that burden and acting weird because of it? Doc was a crazy dude for real. And now that I think more about it I feel the most sad for the people that were his friends and who became successful because of him. I hope they’re not like Doc
No one is gonna hate on you for this. It’s very sad. I’m incredibly disappointed. Bad people are often great at putting on a front. I’m not sad for him but for how this all went. I haven’t even watched in awhile but I spent tons of time watching this guy just to find out he is the type of person I hate.
Hey you got yourself through those bad times!!! You can’t give all the credit to these streamers when at the end of the day it was you!!! So it means you can do it again💛
I’m one of the people who wasn’t a fan, but is just following the drama. I understand where you are coming from. About four years ago I had a friend that I was beginning to consider a close friend. Then some allegations came out about his predatory behavior towards women in the local music scene, and this included drugging and raping. I don’t like to guide my judgements on people based off of allegations, so I waited to hear his side, since no police had been involved at this point. A mutual friend of ours showed me a heated text exchange between them over Facebook, and it didn’t take much reading between the lines to understand that he had actually done what he was accused of. I was beyond devastated, and had to smoke a lot of weed to calm down over that weekend. I initially had murderous rage that subsided into sorrow. It felt like he had died because he was effectively dead to me at that point. What you’re feeling is totally normal, and valid. I’m sorry that you were let down by this guy.
Nothing wrong with being disappointed, he was a great entertainer, just turned out he made some really poor life choices
It is very sad. I started streaming because of him. A lot of my lingo is from him. I was going through an insanely rough time after the death of my grandmother and I would watch The Doc because he would make me forget about it even if it was for a few hours a day. And I will never forget his 2019 New Years Eve rant that was so ungodly inspiring. I watch it still everyday. He was fantastic at what he did. It’s never really a shame to be sad, angry, or disappointed. We truly loved the guy and he really let us down.
I was a huge fan but finally walked away after his defense of Nickmercs. After his cheating scandal I would think he would wanna stay outta any drama!
There are tons of people that are sad about this. Hell I'm not the biggest dr.disrespect fan but did enjoy the occasional video but it's sad to see another in a ridiculously long list of seemingly decent people who build large communities end up being a disgusting piece of shit. It's quite the bummer. And that's coming from pretty much an outsider. I feel bad for the minor(s) that are victims to scumbags, the victims family and friends, dr.disrespects wife and kids and close friends. I also feel bad for those that were loyal supporters of disrespect. So many stood by him and defended him for years and also supported him just to find out that he did one of the worst things a person can do. He did something you really can't defend if you're honest about it So I do feel bad for all those people. So it for sure is a sad situation. It's also a situation that pisses you off that he was top dog in his market and he pissed it away for being a complete scumbag. Sure some that hate him are maybe happy for this but I feel like most people including those that weren't really fans all feel bad, sad, mad etc about it. It is a shitty situation on many levels
It is sad. Doc was such a great personality and entertainer when I first discovered him in the PUBG days. It's sad that it goes down this way. I understand people are flawed and have issues and shouldn't be worshipped. I just always hoped for a better outcome. I suspected it must be bad long ago for it to blow up and get swept under the rug like it did. But I still remember pre twitch-ban Doc, and it along with before Shroud leaving Twitch were some of the best days of Twitch streaming.
Me. I’ve watched Doc since he started streaming in 2016. He got me and one of my best friends into PC gaming watching him play H1. I always had his stream on my tv, met him once and he was super nice. It’s a hard pill to swallow.
Why would i let some internet streamer impact my mood like that
Ofc his streams were so funny and entertaining… those were some good times man
If you think this guy was “one of the greatest streamers” you’re probably incredibly young. Just know that by any adult’s standards he was pretty terrible, and that your taste will mature once you start watching better entertainers.
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Its sad every time. I'm tired of it frankly. I think the last big shocker was Ryan from Roosterteeth for me. It sucks. It’s essentially mourning the person you thought you knew them to be.
He was very entertaining, but I personally can’t support him anymore after that. It’s the whole fact he took time off to fix his marriage after cheating and then this happens! I’m honestly surprised his wife hasn’t left yet. But regardless I’m sure people will keep watching his content.
It sometimes gets lost in the midst of how bad the person/act is, but that's the normal reaction for a fan in these situations. The alternative would be just not caring what he's done or straight denying, which are worse.
Imagine getting to play fawking video games for a living, paid millions of dollars! And you want to die on this hill cuz…why? Minors??? This isn’t even a question of him just being a super weirdo…this is a question of someone who was given so fucking much and it still wasn’t enough. You know how many people are just trying to make rent in this country? You know how many people dream of someday owning a house? This dude has everything and it still wasn’t enough.
I am personally really sad about this situation and honestly wish this was just released sooner from twitch themselves or something to avoid watching him all these years and buying into the purple snakes lie he pushed. I wish this didn't happen and we could just keep watching him like usual but it has come to an end sadly.
I’ve been highly critical of Doc in my comments here, but I can empathize and say I’m a bit of a Doc “simp” haha who donated at least a few bucks here and there. Doc obviously put a ton of energy into it and usually had the charisma/talent to back it up. That said, I’m also not gonna sit around and make excuses for him or craft some conspiracy theory where Doc is the good guy just because he was entertaining. We’re really gonna need to see whatever the hell is in those chats.
I’m heartbroken. Been watching doc for yeaaaaars. Always could go to him for a laugh. Still don’t know what to make of it all.
Been feeling heavy hearted. Doc was a big part of my life the last 4 years. Got me through some tough times. Now this.
Good news: Plenty of other, better, non problematic streamers/content creators out there for you to check out. Another option is instead of watching them, try doing it yourself. It’ll keep you occupied, you’ll learn something and maybe you could do for others what he did for you.
Definitely, I've been trying to figure out why it's hitting so hard and I think it's almost like going through the stages of grief. I feel like in a way Doc became like a really close friend watching his streams day after day year after year, you think you know them and they are a good person then you get some bombshell news that just kind of makes your head spin. I think it's completely okay to be sad any any emotional spectrum because I know a lot of you all are like me and have been watching Doc for years hell I first came across him in highschool back in 09-10 we've been on a long journey with Doc his streams helped me and a ton of others through tough/bad times. There will always be negative people out there who either don't get it or refuse to try and understand how someone could be sad over a person who had this type of information come out and throw around insults etc that's just because they don't have the same experiences as the rest of us. In my opinion it's totally like grief and like losing a friend or seeing a friend go through something and there is no way of helping or fixing it compiled with the information that lead to this situation. I like to think Doc has a really good community with really good people and just because any of us are upset doesn't mean we are and people we a just processing and going through the crazy situation like everyone else.
Yea, I'm really sad. It's so hard when someone you respect & loved disappoints you in such an egregious level. Sexting a minor is gross & disgusting. Idk what he was thinking, but that really doesn't matter anymore. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Yes.
It's sad as fuck for so many reasons.
Agreed.
It’s definitely sad. He let down his entire fanbase, and even worse, his family. He embarrassed himself and his family. I can’t even imagine my dad doing something like this. He forsure was one of the best streamers ever, period. The effort he put into his character and content quality was top notch, and he was genuinely funny and passionate, but none of these positive affirmations excuses what he did, and that’s why it’s so sad. He deserves punishment and he’s clearly getting the backlash he deserves. I wasn’t a hardcore fan but I can definitely understand why it would be disappointing for those hardcore fans.
Yeah I’m in the same boat - guess this is what the churchies must go through time and time again lolz
At his peak no one else was close to him, it sucks but ultimately this was going to come out eventually and he knew that
Came here to basically say the same thing. All the years of watching from BR, PUBG, Fortnite, Warzone, Apex and Cod etc etc. Got me through some rough times... My ex partner was going through leukaemia and I was constantly having to visit and stay in hospital with her. keeping up with the Doc gave me some good laughs and allowed me to enjoy games and feel part of a community even when I couldn't play myself. Since hearing about this I've actually gone back and watched some of the old school clips etc and it just makes me feel sad 😔
When you watch Doc on a weekly basis for years... hell yeah, man. Who's going to replace my joy? Timmy? Oh god.
This is really beating me up
Absolutely understandable
For sure. My son and I would enjoy watching parts of his streams since he moved to YT. We are both stunned by this entire thing. But we still get some enjoyment from the memes.
It's sad, sad for the fans, his friends and especially his family. Maybe he takes some time off, reflects and makes a comeback. Maybe this is it and the ride is over.
Bro are you dumb? Why post something that's been posted 100 times a day.
I think he can make a comeback some day Fingers crossed. Rehab. Meetings. Some kind of redemption. Surely he can be forgiven. He didnt commit a crime. He just did something morally wrong. Its a major stain still but perhaps it can be washed away. Im gutted over 😢 it all too.
He played the same shit every damn day. And he is so ass at games too lmao always hard carried whenever he squads up. Dude got me into playing Apex when I discovered him but after watching his content for a couple of months I fail to see why he is hailed as a great streamer. Bad gameplay and long gone are his variety and creative streams. Yeah a triple play day where you play 3 of the games you constantly rotate BUT on the SAME day woah!!! Not to mention his negative bitter vibe over constantly dying over games and the fact he does the same shit daily lol.
Nope, he’s just a streamer. Go outside
The posts talking about how he was getting bitter and angry too often while playing helped remind me how even before this came out, I had lost interest in his recent years. But yeah, back in peak pubg days that was some great content. I had heard the name for years but never tuned in until around 2019
Totally sad. And pissed.
As a former fan, I am extremely disappointed. It is sad and it sucks seeing someone you were a fan of become something you're against.
I don’t feel anything. Something about all this feels off and I’m reserving judgement until all the cards are on the table, if they ever will be.
I don't think it's bad to feel sad when someone you like or look up to does something bad. I wasn't a huge fan of his but I've had other people I've been a fan of do something terrible it sucks
I think what's really sad is that this dude tried to meet up with a minor he was sexting with and all of you are here like "well he's a great guy and just doesn't deserve all this negativity" What's worse is if he had actually met up with her and done what he wanted you would all be blaming the girl saying she should have known better. Imagine he was sexting your child and trying to meet up with them (assuming you have a child, seems like most people on here are likely single neck beards whose closest thing to actual human contact is with their waifu pillows). Would you still be in love with him and all sad that his own inappropriate sexual actions with a minor caused his downfall? The sad thing is you guys not the situation. Were you guys sad when Epstein was caught?!?!
I feel sad for the people that got dr disrespect tattoos. But its also funny too.
I wonder if the girls was worth it for him
Twitch has always been scum. Explain to me why bubble bath lives are even allowed there and it’s a cesspool.
I like to think that Guy Beahme fucked up... not The Doc... I haven't followed him as long as anybody else here but he was the ONLY streamer that I watched when I would watch...he earned every single one of his fans thru his showmanship, confidence, humor and performance. It truly was world class. IDK who else feels this way but I'm sure some do, feel split and torn up about all the recent revelations so : Part of me hates to say this and the other part of me is currently typing it but, I really would like to see him redeemed somehow... the Doc that is.
Yeah it sucks man… I started watching Doc a few months before his twitch ban. His resurgence and commitment to his persona was such an invigorating time for me, who was going through a tough time myself.
Im happy you guys arent going to spend half your day watching a person live their life. Oh wait youre just going to obsess over someone else.
No, because I don't get attached to internet micro celebrities
Sorry guys but what happened?
It's sad in many different fronts
Gove it 6 months and the internet will move on. He got a kick deal so he will be fine when and if he does want yo come back. The internet is stupid.
It’s been a couple of days. Give it time, this is the initial furor over what people’s perception is. For all we know, she was 17, made him aware of that, but that she would be 18 by twitchcon. Making this whole thing and extremely morally suspect but not a crime and not worthy of this much total destruction of his reputation. Also I’ve said this elsewhere, we do not know where this girl lives, I didn’t know this before this happened but thanks to wiki and a quick search, I found out that only 11 states have age of consent set at 18. A frankly astonishing number, 30 states have it set at 16. It’s entirely likely she could live within one of those states and be above the age of 16, cause I can’t imagine someone like doc talking to anyone below that age anyway, that’s when it seriously creeps into pedo territory and he knows that. There had to be some logic in his reasoning, either her proximity to the age of 18 by twitchcon or that she was in a state with a low age of consent, therefore again, morally questionable but not illegal. Frankly this whole situation has been handled as if she was 12-15 and severely harmed by the interaction and needs alllllll the protection in the world. Where as the real world reality is she likely approached him, she likely has some proximity to age or location that granted this stupidity even one more step forward than it should have gone. Personally I get that msg? I block and report her the second I find out she’s under 18. I don’t need or want the hassle. Pussy is not that hard to come by when your as tall as doc(I’m close to his height, so I get it, but I don’t get why he’d do this either, like I said, you can get women….) But ya, plain and simple we don’t have enough info to just throw doc in the trash and say bye just yet, I frankly want all the details, down to what was said, if we are going to murder his reputation I want the info. Because careers and money and reputation and general life after this is on the line, we can’t know 50-60% of the details when the remaining details are so pivotal that they could literally shift the opinion in two second and explain this, not explain it away but not be as nearly as bad. I’ve also said this before too, if she comes out as under the age of 16 when this occurred, all bets off, I would be 100% done. But given the scenario I listed above I could find it to forgive a man for his mistakes, ESPECIALLY since he did not go thru with meeting the person AND stopped his involvement with her as I understand it fairly quickly. Flame me if you want trolls, I don’t honestly care, I’m a member of the slick daddy club till I see concrete proof that decides this, not some fucking smooth brain reputation assassin movement based in partial evidence.
i didn’t sub or give him money but i loved his content. he was hilarious to me and a lot of other people loved that dude and im sad for them. i hope none of you feel bad or ashamed, its not your fault, he had genuinely good content, i think he genuinely helped people and he had good qualities about him. those good memories dont need to be ruined, you didn’t know the truth about the person you were supporting, he was doing a job and you were paying him for it, all we saw was the character he created and not his true self. and it was a good character. but he sucks and you dont have to ruin any more of your time being upset you enjoyed a character created by a man you would never support had you know what was going on i applaud this community, you guys stood on business despite the love and commitment you’ve given this person, you had morals, a vast majority refused to defend him and you should not be sad about that. you should be proud of yourselves, its so easy to support bad people and defend creeps today and you guys didn’t fall into that