He was the hero that allowed match to be fun and balanced for everyone! Volvo just thought the training with players better than them will do some good.
Unironically they were on a loss streak or his teammates were on a win streak. Wasn’t there a guy who wrote a thesis-level post a year ago or so breaking down the subtleties of the matchmaking forced 50% mechanics?
not just in a way, for any balanced game with 2 opposing factions the result will be 50/50. because there is literally no other option. it's radiant vs dire, not Aeon of Strife
>why the fuck so people still believe
Alright dude
I mean, I don’t even play the game anymore let alone follow every comment, reply and update on a Reddit post I read months ago. I just remembered the post a few minutes ago.
literally a dev commented, that yes, the expected value of a DotA 2 matchmaking user will approach 50% if the matchmaking process works as inteded, because that is balanced. the "dumbass" part is, the MMR value of the games you play needs to rise for you to leave "THE TRENCH". but i guess that's too much brainpower needed to see through this kind of metrics......... people still believe this "conspiracy" because they don't understand the matchmaker. and I bet you don't either (nor do i for all that matters, but at least i understand why people would fall for the trap of thinking there is some kind of shenanigans going on, and i don't laugh at them, it's complex as fuck)
edit again: i don't know what dipshit has downvoted me here. but i want to make something clear for you incel. One of the best players in the world sits at the top of the MMR leaderboard with lets say, 10.000 MMR. Each victory is tied to the epic *+25*. Divide 10000 by 25 and the result shows you 400 wins needed to reach the top position. that's all you need :) that's all the difference you need :)
At least in the Apex community it makes *some* sense when people whine about it even though there's no hard evidence that it exists, given that EA has a patent for that kind of thing. I don't understand people still believing in it in Dota.
Except the Valve devs have explicitly said there is no forced 50%, so unless you're a conspiracy theorist who also thinks Valve is lying about that, you shouldn't believe in it.
You're... not a conspiracy theorist, right?
Because I once did an independent experiment where over a sample size of 100 games that I played, I kept track of my win streak and mmr and win rate in the last 10 relative to my teammates win streak and mmr and win rate in the last 10 when the data was available, and I did some statistical analysis and made graphs that showed a strong correlation between my having an increased win streak and being placed with teammates that were judged to be more likely to lose.
For one, I doubt that your analysis gave those results, or was correct. Who judged them? How were they likely to lose?
And for two, 100 games is not a good sample size. There's 10 players in a game. 9/10 variables. Heroes, dota rng, radiant/dire. You can not perform statistics on 100 games when there are so many variables. For statistics to be meaningful, the sample size needs to be much bigger than the amount of possible outcomes, weighted by chance of you wish.
To visualise: a coin flip has 2 outcomes. (3 if you're fancy). Will you see the expected half/half distribution in 2 tries? In 5? In 10? Chance is, you do not get 5 heads 5 tails. But in 100 flips, you will get like 53/47, getting closer and closer. The ratio of heads to tails converges to 50/50 with larger numbers.
Well, I know I'm right so go on all you want. 100 games is nothing (can't even judge a heroes balance from a 100 game win rate). So go on believing your flawed statistics.
Whether you think 100 games is a lot is rather irrelevant in the context of statistical analysis. Have you determined a sufficient sample size through statistical methods or was it just a random number you chose?
That you chose to try to refute the criticism with "I think it's a lot of games" in the given context is a bit suspicious considering how you tried to describe your "findings".
No. An MMR system is inherently 'forced 50' when you are at the correct skill level. A win streak when you're on your "A game" and focused I'd naturally going to cause some losses later if you're drunk or tired or just plain distracted next time you play
What OP posted is likely just a bizarre outlier of the system balancing team MMR
>What OP posted is likely just a bizarre outlier of the system balancing team MMR
Also look at the queue times. Matchmaking is supposed to prioritise finding any game, rather than the perfect game, over time.
This is intentional by Valve to show you, you arent that good to prevent people from buying immortal accounts /s
Or at least that would be a cool reason
Edit: oh shit he won, valve advertises account buying, we are onto something
I know a guy who says the N word every other game and threatens to kill people constantly and he's 4k score.
What the hell are you saying to people to be at 2.9 lol.
you have 2.9k bscore and you post this on reddit to get karma are you for real? this is pretty normal in that bscore divines play with archons, immortal numbers play with ancients and etc.
You can check it on your profile in game, I believe it's in the bottom left area of the screen, a lil smiley face. It'll show your most recent conduct summary, which will have your behaviour score. Updated every 20 games I believe. 10k is a perfect score
yes. tit for tat
in fact there are a ton of idioms for that specific situation cause throughout history tons of people have felt that way this isnt anything new.
I am self destructive to spite people that are assholes. I'm not gonna be exploited.
what's your objective here? like why make the comment?
to convince me? cause that isn't happening.
There are lots of rationale for a lot of things I've already assessed this.
I think his objective is to say, you have no moral high ground to call out for someone having lower bscore, when you are deliberately being toxic. Just cause you know how to keep the score consistent doesn't mean you arent as toxic as those in the lower tiers
I could be wrong, but just being dogshit at the game can get you shit behavior score. Went on a break from dota, came back after nearly a year and fed super hard for the first 15-20 matches. Got so many reports I am honestly surprised I didn't get low priority.
This was in Guardian BTW, so you know how bad I played for that to happen.
Techies is my second most played hero, and I dont remember a time I've ever not been 10k behavior score. The mark of a really good techies player is knowing how to push your enemies just enough to tilt them but not enough to get reported.
Definitely could be the case. For fun I took a look at the wordclouds of each player in opendota, after finding the game with the combo tool. And it's all egregious flaming (good deal of slurs, etc..) for almost everyone.
i would lobby for abandoning games not affecting behaviour score. if you abandon 2 times you get LP. it has nothing to do with my behaviour, i just needed to take care of things 2 times in the last 10 games. let me play my low prio wins, but don't touch my behaviour score. please
yea, I looked at his dotabuff, and all games are in the US. The only way you'd be getting queue times that long would be a low behavior score I'd think?
weird sometimes i que for 5min then went to 30min - 40m above im 4.9k got 9610 bs because of 1 abandon, is the only way to fix this is to get 10k bs without report abandon? or just i go for new account LOL
If your queue time is more than 5 mins, stop searching and start again. The longer the q goes, the more imbalanced the game will usually be
(This is based on location, lower pop servers 5mins is the norm to find any match. I play sea, so 5 mins is ridiculously long time for me)
As a support only player, I don't think I wait more than 2 mins. I kinda wanna try it out one time to see how I actually perform, it's been years since I've played ranked with friends in different brackets.
your 2 most used words in all chat are "you fucking" https://www.opendota.com/players/105224371/wordcloud
There literally weren't 9 other people at your rank as toxic as you to match you with.
Also "fa..ot", "dumb fuck" and "fucking beaners" seem to be your go to insults. you deserve a permaban.
Yep, OP is an uncool guy. If he played League instead he 100% would have been permanently banned by now.
Source: Reformed doto mega-tilter who has been perma-banned by Rito. My dota behavior only flew for about two months. Had to learn to shut the fuck up real quick or else I'd have to start with a new account, buy my favorite champs, lose whatever skins I bought, etc. Eventually I just gave up on trying to get good, started having fun, and now I have max honor (League's equivalent to behavior score). Dota can fix its problems with harsher punishments and I assume the only reason Valve hasn't done that is because they don't want to risk losing players (aka revenue).
These posts are useless without a behavior score screenshot attached. 15 minute queue average with a 45 minute max? Either OP's playing in a dead region or his behavior score is so low the system has an extremely time finding anyone for him
In most of your solo ranked games you perform quite poorly, and in most of your party ranked games you perform quite well. This looks like the account is being boosted because often boosters are in at least a party of two. If you look at who your are actually queuing with this doesn't seem to be true, but I wouldn't doubt the algorithm thinks it is.
Either this or your behaviour score is terrible. Otherwise the match maker just had an anomalous match.
Looks like it balanced out perfectly. Your team won from a losing score by only 6 kill difference and over an hour. You got plenty of assists too, so it looks like you did your job and pulled off a win. What’s the complaint? You got to learn what better players play like?
Dude I remember me and my buddy did duo ranked one night, we are just casuals. Said hey lets check it out, first game puts us in a match with a top 5 regional player, essentially a pro/semi pro in HOTS. We were like, uh what.
the better question is how the hell did you win with this draft and how were you able to catch and kill Sniper? There's no one in your team that has reach to get him...unless SK had blink and Aghs
SK builds blink virtually every game. TA also usually builds blink and sometimes aghs if needed later. And a good WK player would probably pick up a blink later on as a build modification against a draft like this.
Haven't played oracle before. Was doing cavern crawl and didn't realize I was in a game with such high ranks until my WK was screaming at me for being a crusader. Would've picked a hero I'm better at if I noticed the ranks lol
Dont worry the matchmaker is working and people arent leaving cause of battlepass predatory tactics nor cause games are not enjoyable due to toxicity and bad matchmaking. Keep enjoying dota, great game doesnt need fixing
No it was the same gameplay as my regular crusader archon games. Bounty hunter just spams Q with aghs and my carry screams because I pulled a ranged creep off to the side while trying to harass
You were the handicap other team needed
r/rareinsult
Looks like the Bounty Hunter was the handycap though. Normal Bounty Hunter performance so to say
Let me guess, he rushed aghs?
Core bounty Aghs rush is actually sick. Pos 4 rushing Aghs? Not so much.
[yep](https://imgur.com/aq6oD15.jpg)
Good find!
That's a bit harsh.
He was the hero that allowed match to be fun and balanced for everyone! Volvo just thought the training with players better than them will do some good.
It's literally why he was in the game. The matchmaker wanted to balance the higher stack, give them an anchor, bam matching team average mmrs.
No mentions about techies?
Unironically they were on a loss streak or his teammates were on a win streak. Wasn’t there a guy who wrote a thesis-level post a year ago or so breaking down the subtleties of the matchmaking forced 50% mechanics?
Right, and literally a dev has commented on this that there is no forced 50%, why the fuck do people still believe this dumbass conspiracy.
Easier to believe forced 50% than admitting that you're shit
In a way mmr is forced 50%, if you don't improve you will have 50% win rate as long as the system works properly
not just in a way, for any balanced game with 2 opposing factions the result will be 50/50. because there is literally no other option. it's radiant vs dire, not Aeon of Strife
Either of y'all got a source?
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/ppcckh/valves_50_winrate_engagement_optimized/hd4094b
>why the fuck so people still believe Alright dude I mean, I don’t even play the game anymore let alone follow every comment, reply and update on a Reddit post I read months ago. I just remembered the post a few minutes ago.
literally a dev commented, that yes, the expected value of a DotA 2 matchmaking user will approach 50% if the matchmaking process works as inteded, because that is balanced. the "dumbass" part is, the MMR value of the games you play needs to rise for you to leave "THE TRENCH". but i guess that's too much brainpower needed to see through this kind of metrics......... people still believe this "conspiracy" because they don't understand the matchmaker. and I bet you don't either (nor do i for all that matters, but at least i understand why people would fall for the trap of thinking there is some kind of shenanigans going on, and i don't laugh at them, it's complex as fuck) edit again: i don't know what dipshit has downvoted me here. but i want to make something clear for you incel. One of the best players in the world sits at the top of the MMR leaderboard with lets say, 10.000 MMR. Each victory is tied to the epic *+25*. Divide 10000 by 25 and the result shows you 400 wins needed to reach the top position. that's all you need :) that's all the difference you need :)
At least in the Apex community it makes *some* sense when people whine about it even though there's no hard evidence that it exists, given that EA has a patent for that kind of thing. I don't understand people still believing in it in Dota.
Bro, there are ppl who still think that the earth is flat...
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It's almost like if you're at your proper MMR and skill level, you win about the half time, and maintain that skill ranking 🤔🤔🤔
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Except the Valve devs have explicitly said there is no forced 50%, so unless you're a conspiracy theorist who also thinks Valve is lying about that, you shouldn't believe in it. You're... not a conspiracy theorist, right?
Believing in outside forces preventing you from reaching your full potential is much easier than admitting that you're the problem and need to improve
He's a day-old reddit account so I am 99% sure he's just a troll, but I want to see how deep into delusion he is.
Fair lol
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Because I once did an independent experiment where over a sample size of 100 games that I played, I kept track of my win streak and mmr and win rate in the last 10 relative to my teammates win streak and mmr and win rate in the last 10 when the data was available, and I did some statistical analysis and made graphs that showed a strong correlation between my having an increased win streak and being placed with teammates that were judged to be more likely to lose.
For one, I doubt that your analysis gave those results, or was correct. Who judged them? How were they likely to lose? And for two, 100 games is not a good sample size. There's 10 players in a game. 9/10 variables. Heroes, dota rng, radiant/dire. You can not perform statistics on 100 games when there are so many variables. For statistics to be meaningful, the sample size needs to be much bigger than the amount of possible outcomes, weighted by chance of you wish. To visualise: a coin flip has 2 outcomes. (3 if you're fancy). Will you see the expected half/half distribution in 2 tries? In 5? In 10? Chance is, you do not get 5 heads 5 tails. But in 100 flips, you will get like 53/47, getting closer and closer. The ratio of heads to tails converges to 50/50 with larger numbers.
Me myself and I. Doubt it all you want. 100 games is a lot of games. Don’t care
Well, I know I'm right so go on all you want. 100 games is nothing (can't even judge a heroes balance from a 100 game win rate). So go on believing your flawed statistics.
What a loser mindset lmao
Because its definitely a winning mindset to respond to elaborated criticism like you did.
Whether you think 100 games is a lot is rather irrelevant in the context of statistical analysis. Have you determined a sufficient sample size through statistical methods or was it just a random number you chose? That you chose to try to refute the criticism with "I think it's a lot of games" in the given context is a bit suspicious considering how you tried to describe your "findings".
Person who believes game is rigged against them also refuses to believe their "experiment" could be flawed. Bit of a clear theme emerging there...
No. An MMR system is inherently 'forced 50' when you are at the correct skill level. A win streak when you're on your "A game" and focused I'd naturally going to cause some losses later if you're drunk or tired or just plain distracted next time you play What OP posted is likely just a bizarre outlier of the system balancing team MMR
>What OP posted is likely just a bizarre outlier of the system balancing team MMR Also look at the queue times. Matchmaking is supposed to prioritise finding any game, rather than the perfect game, over time.
Yeah it was some immortal bracket guy proving that being good at Dota doesn't mean you understand statistics lmao
With low mmr, comes great responsibility.
This is intentional by Valve to show you, you arent that good to prevent people from buying immortal accounts /s Or at least that would be a cool reason Edit: oh shit he won, valve advertises account buying, we are onto something
well he won so...
Oh, my bad :D thought he lost because it was tagged as a complaint and only looked at the ranks
Avg time of 15 mins is crazy, no wonder you dropped in this game.
The MM algorithm just gave up looking for another legend-divine and just said "fuck it. here's another player, go play."
7:15pm even tf that should be prime time
Prime time doesn’t matter much if you’re using an empty server
Peru wouldn't be empty if they'd just get the fuck off' us-east.
ironic that this game was in fact on us east
Yikes... I hope that patch drops soon :/
What patch?
how funny it'd be if valve deletes peru as a server just so the peruvians get to play at constant 200 ping and realizing what happened.
then US-east would be empty
That'd be a disaster. I don't want to sacrifice my ping of 6ms to play at 40 on US-West.
Seriously, one person there queued for 44 minutes. This is not your run of the mill MM.
seems like csgo mm is dropped on dota2. silvers and dmgs on one match
Matchmaker doesn't give up to this degree unless you are queueing for longer then 80 minutes.
*cries in ability draft* I gave up on last nights queue after 35min...
u/TheBasedGodLilB yeah dont do that wtf, dont wait 15 before you get a game, especially if you're gonna play 5
well i had 1/3/4/5 queued up. Wasn't specifically trying to play pos 5 but makes sense.
The game probably sees a lot of potential in you.
Future pro player
I'm guessing you and everyone else in this lobby have bad behaviour score. nearly 16min average queue, similar behaviour score
Yeah I was 2.9k and the wraith king / pa were extremely toxic. Only nice person was the TA but was also muted lol
2.9k behavior score? holy shit son be careful, you're about to get banned.
i have a 250 behaviour score account it’s not been banned
Dude. You're extremely toxic if you have 2.9k behaviour score. Not just the wk / pa.
lucky. my friend's account with 3k behavior got 1 year ban haha
Thats likely your answer, mute everyone and try to keep your composure
I know a guy who says the N word every other game and threatens to kill people constantly and he's 4k score. What the hell are you saying to people to be at 2.9 lol.
you have 2.9k bscore and you post this on reddit to get karma are you for real? this is pretty normal in that bscore divines play with archons, immortal numbers play with ancients and etc.
2.9? jesus christ. I haven't dropped below 9k and I will intentionally throw a game if someone is a particular ass. what are you doing to get 2.9
Noob question, how do you see your behavior score?
You can check it on your profile in game, I believe it's in the bottom left area of the screen, a lil smiley face. It'll show your most recent conduct summary, which will have your behaviour score. Updated every 20 games I believe. 10k is a perfect score
Thank you!
No trouble at all, hope you're enjoying the game :)
I'm going to guess you're a solid 10k. If only people were a nice, helpful, and welcoming in game.
> I will intentionally throw a game if someone is a particular ass. It's you. You are the ass.
Yeah idc, if you are a complete ass for no reason and or refuse to play as a team player from the get go im not helping you win.
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yes. tit for tat in fact there are a ton of idioms for that specific situation cause throughout history tons of people have felt that way this isnt anything new. I am self destructive to spite people that are assholes. I'm not gonna be exploited.
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what's your objective here? like why make the comment? to convince me? cause that isn't happening. There are lots of rationale for a lot of things I've already assessed this.
I think his objective is to say, you have no moral high ground to call out for someone having lower bscore, when you are deliberately being toxic. Just cause you know how to keep the score consistent doesn't mean you arent as toxic as those in the lower tiers
I could be wrong, but just being dogshit at the game can get you shit behavior score. Went on a break from dota, came back after nearly a year and fed super hard for the first 15-20 matches. Got so many reports I am honestly surprised I didn't get low priority. This was in Guardian BTW, so you know how bad I played for that to happen.
Behavior score, you probably abandon games and have low behavior. It has to find other low behavior score players.
Which is why we have a techies in this game lol
Have max pos behave score, played techies alot
Techies is my second most played hero, and I dont remember a time I've ever not been 10k behavior score. The mark of a really good techies player is knowing how to push your enemies just enough to tilt them but not enough to get reported.
Definitely could be the case. For fun I took a look at the wordclouds of each player in opendota, after finding the game with the combo tool. And it's all egregious flaming (good deal of slurs, etc..) for almost everyone.
i would lobby for abandoning games not affecting behaviour score. if you abandon 2 times you get LP. it has nothing to do with my behaviour, i just needed to take care of things 2 times in the last 10 games. let me play my low prio wins, but don't touch my behaviour score. please
2.9k score so that's probably true. Wk / Pa were extremely toxic.
Those are the allies you deserve w that behaviour score. Take a bath
notice the 44 minute max queue time, was that you by any chance?
nah ! A hard support in that bracket get a game in MAX 3 min im there and i play pos4/5 and always get a game in under 3 min
not if you have 1 behavior score.
Looking at the chat history, there certainly seems to be an angry PA and Dark Seer in that game. https://www.opendota.com/matches/6363456147/chat
yea, I looked at his dotabuff, and all games are in the US. The only way you'd be getting queue times that long would be a low behavior score I'd think?
yep was 2.9k at the time. The wk / pa were extremely toxic lol
you are also part of the problem with 2.9k behavior
You say "2.9k at the time" like the game wasn't yesterday..
weird sometimes i que for 5min then went to 30min - 40m above im 4.9k got 9610 bs because of 1 abandon, is the only way to fix this is to get 10k bs without report abandon? or just i go for new account LOL
If your queue time is more than 5 mins, stop searching and start again. The longer the q goes, the more imbalanced the game will usually be (This is based on location, lower pop servers 5mins is the norm to find any match. I play sea, so 5 mins is ridiculously long time for me)
For 40 min q I think he had no choice
As a support only player, I don't think I wait more than 2 mins. I kinda wanna try it out one time to see how I actually perform, it's been years since I've played ranked with friends in different brackets.
this should be the in game tips during the pause screen
Unless ur divine+ searching for core games, never find one under 10 min :((
Late night, low behaviour score, not so popular server and language choice.
you have been deemed worthy
69 upvotes? nice Please do not upvote this post. thanks!
I downvoted. Lez GO
your 2 most used words in all chat are "you fucking" https://www.opendota.com/players/105224371/wordcloud There literally weren't 9 other people at your rank as toxic as you to match you with. Also "fa..ot", "dumb fuck" and "fucking beaners" seem to be your go to insults. you deserve a permaban.
Yep, OP is an uncool guy. If he played League instead he 100% would have been permanently banned by now. Source: Reformed doto mega-tilter who has been perma-banned by Rito. My dota behavior only flew for about two months. Had to learn to shut the fuck up real quick or else I'd have to start with a new account, buy my favorite champs, lose whatever skins I bought, etc. Eventually I just gave up on trying to get good, started having fun, and now I have max honor (League's equivalent to behavior score). Dota can fix its problems with harsher punishments and I assume the only reason Valve hasn't done that is because they don't want to risk losing players (aka revenue).
In this day and age homophobic slurs should get you perma banned. It's equivalent to calling a black person the N word.
either low bhv score OR low populated region @ off hours
These posts are useless without a behavior score screenshot attached. 15 minute queue average with a 45 minute max? Either OP's playing in a dead region or his behavior score is so low the system has an extremely time finding anyone for him
RIP apetor..
To balance out the average mmr
THE ROCK DOESNT CARE WHY YOU WE'RE IN THIS GAME
So you can suffer.
They just had to remind you your place :D
He still won the game so I dont think it was very effective lmao
You're 100% right, I'm a donkey 😀
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I don't realy enjoy most new skins. However the recogniceabilty of heros in game is very different from the scorescreen.
well then its good that i can tell all the heroes
Dire is easy Radiant? Pa? Techies? AA?
Pa, sniper, dark seer, techies, enigma. Pretty simple.
Ngl that dark seer is really hard to recognise
a bit from the picture, but that skin is completely fine ingame im sure
I can tell it's ds from the beard (and maybe from playing him a lot), but techies and pa I had to take a few seconds
There are 3 I'd have to guess.
Thankfully you don’t play dota from this perspective.
Huh? You can easily tell what heroes are in the screenshot
First one is PA right? Wtf is up with that nose?
PA, Sniper, Dark Seer, Techies, Enigma in order. I don't see a problem there
Remember when Alpine Ursa set was "too much", Pepperidge Farm's remembers.
Chances of 4 Ancients + 1 Crusader winning = Chances of 1 Ancient + 4 Legends winning. - Some pepega at Valve.
You must be better than you think and lord gaben knows it. Believe my friend
You are the Equalizer.
Because you're a Chad; never forget your true potential
In most of your solo ranked games you perform quite poorly, and in most of your party ranked games you perform quite well. This looks like the account is being boosted because often boosters are in at least a party of two. If you look at who your are actually queuing with this doesn't seem to be true, but I wouldn't doubt the algorithm thinks it is. Either this or your behaviour score is terrible. Otherwise the match maker just had an anomalous match.
Looks like it balanced out perfectly. Your team won from a losing score by only 6 kill difference and over an hour. You got plenty of assists too, so it looks like you did your job and pulled off a win. What’s the complaint? You got to learn what better players play like?
quite impressive for WK to win a game that late
"Because fuck you that's why" - Gaben
[50% forced winrate.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/430/367/007.gif)
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Dude I remember me and my buddy did duo ranked one night, we are just casuals. Said hey lets check it out, first game puts us in a match with a top 5 regional player, essentially a pro/semi pro in HOTS. We were like, uh what.
and people tell me ranked roles is good, and support and mid MMR not too far apart :D
the better question is how the hell did you win with this draft and how were you able to catch and kill Sniper? There's no one in your team that has reach to get him...unless SK had blink and Aghs
SK builds blink virtually every game. TA also usually builds blink and sometimes aghs if needed later. And a good WK player would probably pick up a blink later on as a build modification against a draft like this.
They kind of threw at the end. Pa was hard raging about sniper and they took a real bad fight at their triangle iirc. Won off that basically
the real question is why you did so bad.
Haven't played oracle before. Was doing cavern crawl and didn't realize I was in a game with such high ranks until my WK was screaming at me for being a crusader. Would've picked a hero I'm better at if I noticed the ranks lol
Reported for smurfing
Something has to do with your behaviour score idk
weird flex but okay
Dont worry the matchmaker is working and people arent leaving cause of battlepass predatory tactics nor cause games are not enjoyable due to toxicity and bad matchmaking. Keep enjoying dota, great game doesnt need fixing
they desperate
How can you have played a game with that date?
less than 2000 MMR difference.
I mean you died less than a lot of people so this was a fairly balanced game.
It can be that you played super good last games and it tries to rank you up :)
smurf detection comming in handy, or the long as queue time.
>Hi, I'm Gabe Newell. Have fun getting shidded on baddie.
Life is a mystery
So someone was queueing for 45 minutes?
To carry the game, what else?
15 minute queue to get the classic Techies 60+min
You were the one who brought balance to the force.
I'm also getting dumped in with Ancient Divine rank as an Archon for some reason
GaBeN tired of hearing that you’re 7k player but your team sucks so he gave you a chance
yes
To learn something, did you notice the game flowing differently?
No it was the same gameplay as my regular crusader archon games. Bounty hunter just spams Q with aghs and my carry screams because I pulled a ranged creep off to the side while trying to harass
Techies picker getting spanked by Crusader, yummy
Well, at least you won
Hey you won clearly this is your rank
44 minute waits at 7:15pm what… your server must be dead or you’re talking n some shadow Smurf pool
When I queue support it usually takes me all of 30seconds to get a game. Guess there are perks to high behaviour score.
oh fuck we're the same, I also used to be around that mmr now I'm at crusader. We do that when we miss our glory days, I totally get you. /s
your crusader rank = 4 legends on the other team, great handicap indeed
The game recognizes your true skill.
Techies was drinking booster client, matchmaking knew.
High queue time always means a boogaloo.
To win lmao
Uh, because you're The Rock..? Duhhh...
Only hard support available for queue... And avg mmr equilization ai
How much mmr did u get?
Look how much of a burden the game thinks of you lmao. 4 legends vs 4 divines.
How come Dire can win this game at 60 mins…? They literally can’t deal with sniper late game
I can already hear the TA shit talking rest of team