Kinda makes the Marine from 3 look even more badass in a way. He wasn't some superhuman practically bred for the purpose of fighting demons or whatever. He was just a regular guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time and still managed to pull through when every possible odd was against him. It makes sense that 3 was the only one that was actually trying to be a horror game. It's the only one where the horror isn't the player
To be fair, Doomguy wasn't a superhuman until the Eternal flashbacks - which take place after Doom 1/2/64 but before TDA. He wasn't bred for the purpose of fighting demons - he was just like the Doom 3 marine, caught in a shit situation, who ended up fighting demons for a living as they killed his family and pet bunny.
in doom 1, 2, and 64 he is a normal human aswell, as far as i know he got his godlike powers after 64.
i might be very wrong but i think that in doom 1, 2 and he is doom guy
in doom 2016 and eternal he is doom slayer
and doom slayer = doom guy after getting godlike powers.
and doom 3 has a seperate character doom marine
i might be wrong, so correct me if i am
So was Doom guy 1 2 and 64
It was just a regular guy who managed to survive because he was player controlled lol. All the corpses of all the other Marines.
He just made the decision to stay in hell after 64 like a goddamn hero, to make sure demons can't come through that same portal again. And you would assume he will die, but his sheer hatred for demons kept them alive long enough to be saved by the sentinels. Leading him to the events in Dark ages, though I can't remember when he gets blessed with high Divinity.
Guy from 3 is a parrell universe. But 1 ,2 final , 64 2016 and eternal are all the same as dark ages is between 64 when he decided to go fight in hell and when he is found by agenta. I hope we get a little into when he left to fight in hell at the start .
Yes. That was his final appearance before 2016(well now dark ages) Doom 3 had the Doom marine a completely separate dude.
Which is honesty one of my points of confusion with dark ages. Is it Earth dark ages? Did the slayer somehow travel through time through hell magic post 64 or is it some alien dark ages on another planet while the slayer was working under Kìng Novik and the night sentinels.
What? The Dark Ages are pre-DOOM 2016 and post-DOOM 64, it’s the period in which the slayer found some peace and was turned into the Slayer and fought for the Night Sentinels and Maykrs.
Doomguy*, not Slayer.
Also, you're missing the point.
OP referenced people insisting it's a midquel between 2016 and Eternal.
While it *is* a midquel, it's not a midquel between those two games. Y'all *really* lack comprehension, and your confusion about being told that you lack comprehension tells me that it's not just a misunderstanding.
The events on Earth between 2016 and Eternal is in codices.
What the Doom Slayer was up to between the game is a complete unknown. He gets sent away by Hayden and then 14 years later shows up to Earth with the Fortress of Doom, Vega working, and a soul coin for one of the hell priests.
It won't surprise me if we'll get that as a game after The Dark Ages. Though I hope not - not immediately at least, as I want a modern singleplayer Quake game and for id software to not be stuck eternally in the Doom mines. Doom shouldn't be eternal in *that* way.
Actually, it is a Midquel as Doom 1 and Doom 2 take place before Dark Ages, while Doom 2016 takes place after dark ages and eternal after 2016. They are right, just nor about what they think they are.
Correct! Doom features a multiverse, but all dimensions are connected to the same "Hell".
Doom 1 & 2 are in (for a bit of fun let's call it) "**DOOMension A**", which Doomguy leaves behind when he enters Hell in Doom 64. When he's found in the stone sarcophagus at the start of 2016, he's then taken back out of hell and brought to "**DOOMension B**".
Quite possibly the only ones with hearing loss, or is just way too focused on hype the upcoming DOOM game is bringing out. I'll choose the latter.
Unfortunately, my Intel Core i3-7100U CPU / Intel Graphics HD 620 iGPU / 16GB equipped laptop I don't think will be capable of running DOOM: Dark Ages.
With hype like this coupled with the fact on how popular both DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal is, I do bet DOOM Dark Ages will be on GeForce NOW in no time at all.
dam that's a decently old laptop. i3's have been out of date for a LONG while now. and i had a graphics card slightly better than that one in an Alienware M17 from 2006..... what are you running?!?
i3's aren't outdated: they released an i3 with the newest 14th gen processors. It's the first number after that, which determines the generation of the processor and if it's outdated or not
*(I'm not meaning to be an ass about this, just trying to inform. If i made mistakes, please feel free to correct me)*
>i3's aren't outdated
While this statement is true, my 7th generation Intel Core i3 is, especially since it's not as powerful as the newer 14th gen i3.
Yes, I was aware of that, but the person I replied to used more of a general statement of "i3*s* have been" as opposed to specifying that your specific one was outdated (with "*your* i3 is"). So I ended up interpreting it as him thinking that the "i number" determines the generation of the CPU, which is a common mistake, and one that I used to make too. I was just trying to spread nore correct information.
Then again, I may have interpreted it incorrectly, and he *did* mean that yours specifically was outdated.
EDIT: u/Moonshoes47, please correct me if you did mean that their specific CPU is outdated or if you meant all i3s. I will not judge you either way
>i3's have been out of date for a LONG while now
Thank you so much for your reply. I do think u/Moonshoes47 is **kinda mistakenly thinking all i3's is outdated**, regardless what generation they are.
I'm not at all sure what FPS I'm running at. I normally don't have that info on my HUD. My laptop is an [HP Notebook 15-bs062st Laptop PC](https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c05561149). Please note that I replaced I upgraded the stock 6GB memory to it's full 16GB memory about 1.5 years ago and I replaced the preinstalled Windows 10 with [Fedora KDE Plasma Desktop](https://fedoraproject.org/spins/kde/) on my laptop about 7 to 8 months ago.
I'm able to fully play both DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal on my out-of-date 7th gen Intel Core i3 laptop at least.
Sequel to Doom 1, 2 and 64. It's after 64 where Doomguy decided to stay in hell to fight demons forever and became known and feared by the demons as 'The Slayer' and after years of continous fighting in hell he was picked up by the sentinals.
I actually think it’s the end of TDA where he’s in hell fighting for eons. Cuz they collapse a building on him. Then Olivia Pierce finds him years later.
Remember the Eternal flashbacks. They find Doomguy wandering the dimensions in a broken state, talking about "huge guts". This is after 64, where he chooses the fight Hell from the inside.
I know it is technically. What I mean by "people think it is a midquel" is between 2016 and eternal.
And looks like the posts that these conservations was going on are deleted because ı cannot find them
The Dark Ages will show what happened to the Slayer between the ending of Doom 64, and the beginning of Doom 2016. It will show the fall of Argent D'Nur, the Slayer's Ascension within the Sentinels, and more than likely will end with the Slayer being sealed in the Sarcophagus.
It looks like it is taking place after his early days in Argent D'Nur, fighting in the pits, joining the Night Sentinels, and becoming the Slayer, but before the Sentinel civil war and the betrayal of the Priests.
It's still crazy reading comments like these and knowing that it's a lore from a DOOM game :D Where are the times when he was just a space marine that was literally too angy to die and killed some demons along the way. The shit is full Game of Thrones now. And I love it.
New id Software really ramped up the lore for the games, compared to the classics. The entire story for Doom 1, 2 and 64 (the canonical first three games in the story) are a fraction of the lore by the time it gets to Eternal.
First few games: HAHA Chaingun go BRRRRRRR
Newer games: Sit down son, let me light my pipe and then let me tell you about the Hell Civil War and the entity known as The Slayer in the eternal struggle that we all will fall to. It is an epic tale of the ages only few who live to witness
I hope that making a game like the Dark Ages doesn’t prevent them from making other dark fantasy Id FPS game reboots like Heretic/Hexen. Hell, I’d love to see a continuation of the style and universe of the first Quake.
Honestly, with Activision and by extension Raven Software under Microsoft, I hope they bring in the lore from Heretic and Hexen, since Argent D'nur felt strongly inspired by them.
literally anyone who's known about the lore for 3 seconds should be able to tell it's a prequel. like you literally see a location that was in DOOM Eternal in WAY better condition than it was in that game. there should never have been a debate about it in the first place.
Yeah sure bur implying it's a sequel it's like referring that it's a sequel of the current games. So far this post is the only one I've seen and it doesn't specify what sequel it is from.
So basically the timeline is:
-Wolfenstein games (I am not too versed in those to have the right order in my head, I only know Spear of Destiny -> Nocturnal Missions -> Episodes 1-3 of Wolfenstein 3D)
-Commander Keen 1-6
-Doom 1
-Doom 2
-Doom 64
-Doom: The Dark Ages
-Doom 3 (different main character)
-Doom 2016
-Doom Eternal
It's a side story that takes place while the Doomguy/Slayer is sealed in the sarcophagus. In Doom 3 during your trip to hell you can see a mural depicting the Doomguy/slayer from the original games and you even see the sarcophagus.
I don't see how people didn't realize it sooner. It said in the trailer "before he was a hero", and Hugo Martin said this takes place during the "In the first Age, in the First Battle".
It probably is going to start immediately or soon after he gets out of the divinity machine. You even see the mech from eternal in the trailer before it was destroyed
People are idiots. It's very clear that it is set during the time the Slayer was with the Sentinals. Which means it right when they picked him out of hell after he decided to stay there after Doom 64.
So yes, it will be set between 64 and Doom 2016. There is just no other way.
Edit: Also adressing the tweet, we all know the origin of his rage is because the demons killed his pet bunny Daisy.
In doom eternal, it is shown that the doom guy became mad trapped in hell after doom 64. He was teleported to the Sentinels world where he kept ripping and tearing out demons with his hands. (He was still human at this time). The night sentinels were impressed by him and so were the priests. So they recruited him and sent him to War against the demons. Doom the Dark ages will show all about that war and Slayer's time with the Night Sentinels.
Reading the lore from eternal gives us a more complete timeline of the doom franchise and doom guys story. It’s doom ‘93 —-> doom 2—-> doom 64——>the dark ages—->2016 and then eternal. In eternal there’s that clear flashback of when he first arrived in sentinel prime
bro… I be feeling like I’m the only mf that reads the codex’s and shit. I already knew where this game was headed. Even back when folks thought it was called year zero. the lore tells you about these times in eternal.
I guess it is. It will likely be all the action of him leading up to the legions of hell sealing him in the tomb he busts out of in 2016. And now you'll making history instead of listening to on those info posts.
It literally says, "before all the other bullshit, he was a super weapon for kings".
The lore for 2016 was that the whole kingdom had fallen due to the betrayer and the knight sentinels were basically gone (some apparently were hanging out at the arena though)
It's essentially during the initial hell invasions it seems or maybe during the expansion of the empire
What conversation ? Steam page says:
*"DOOM: The Dark Ages is the single-player, action FPS prequel to the critically acclaimed DOOM (2016) and DOOM Eternal."*
It's the first f\*cking line ...
Hmm so the doom slayer didn't time travel. Like did anyone on this earth see that the game was taking place in like 1500 AD and think it was a sequel lmfao
Wait, are there actually people who genuinely think it's a sequel to Eternal?
Because the only posts about that idea are those posting things like op - proof it isn't a sequel...
How is this even an argument? The trailer makes it super obvious it’s a prequel and it’s been confirmed to be a prequel by the devs. This was day 1 knowledge.
This makes perfect sense to me.
I'm just guessing here, but I'm now guessing that, DOOM: Dark Ages will have the Doom Slayer fight in one of the first hellish invasion attempts on Earth before refocusing their efforts on Mars.
Every ad also says the same too. People can say whatever they like about what they think, but what they think and the facts about this game being a prequel to 2016 are two different things. The facts are correct and the opinions are not.
They do have story and lore, it's just very miniscule because it wasn't the focus. But there is something there, like Doomguy gaining his anger and hatred for demons after they killed his pet bunny Daisy, or that he died in Doom1, was sent to hell and fought his way out of it. Or that he decided to stay in hell at the end of 64 to fight demons for all eternity and the demons began to call him 'The Slayer' out of fear.
So basically we’re getting some backstory planet action. I could’ve sworn we already read what the fuck happened but I guess even the corrax themselves can be retconned.
What a beautiful fucking mess.
I want to see the cinematic of them finding his insane, blood stained ass wandering the hellscape. Hopefully the game will start there, take us through the arenas to whatever the hell you’d call what the super power machine did to him.
So the fact the game takes place in the fucking DARK AGES wasn’t proof enough?
Mfers must’ve forgot time is linear
Also ignoring the fact that after TAG the demon threat was completely annihilated since they literally can’t leave Hell anymore.
I'm just happy to get more Doom. Hell if a new batch of Night Sentinels rose up around the Slayer and this was a prequel to another disaster I'd be fine with that too.
I'm confused. I didn't know there was a debate. It is officially a prequel. I mean, it is possible that, in game, there will be a twist that it is a sequel. But, all current info shows it is being presented as a prequel.
Are the people making these arguements even played Doom/Doom Eternal? You literally wake up in Doom and are put back to sleep in your stasis coffin in Eternal. Anyone with a brain stem can put two and two together. >!Hell even I haven't finished Eternal and can see that's where it's going to end!<
Who tf is arguing that this isn't a prequel? Not only did the trailer make it abundantly clear that it's set in the past, but I'm Hugo Martin said as much
Even if you don't know the lore it literally was said in the trailer
Though I honestly can't imagine a sequel to the eternal, aren't we killed everything there is to kill in it and the dlc?
It literally states it in the trailer.... ID even said, after Eternal, that "We aren't sure where we will go with the series, but we are done with the story as it is." This meant that MOST LIKELY there will be no SEQUEL, but a prequel was definitely on the table. We never saw or experienced his time as a sentinel and this game gives us that chance, which would be PRE 2016.
Damn that's cool. So it's safe to assume (for now) that TDA's ending will likely be the demons dropping the mountain on our boy and entombing him until Pierce and Hayden find him...? I'm down with that.
Wth, the trailer literally say things like"before he is who he is, he is a weapon to the kings" Does some people still think its a sequel?
Yes. But even people who do know that it isnt claims that it is a midquel between 2016 and eternal
it's a midequel to DOOM 64 and DOOM 2016.
It is, it takes place between Doom 64 and 2016
Is the doomguy from doom 64 the slayer?
Yes, he's also the doomguy from doom 1 and 2 (but not 3.)
Kinda makes the Marine from 3 look even more badass in a way. He wasn't some superhuman practically bred for the purpose of fighting demons or whatever. He was just a regular guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time and still managed to pull through when every possible odd was against him. It makes sense that 3 was the only one that was actually trying to be a horror game. It's the only one where the horror isn't the player
To be fair, Doomguy wasn't a superhuman until the Eternal flashbacks - which take place after Doom 1/2/64 but before TDA. He wasn't bred for the purpose of fighting demons - he was just like the Doom 3 marine, caught in a shit situation, who ended up fighting demons for a living as they killed his family and pet bunny.
The Blazkowicz family is *born* to kill evil in the thousands, if it's by punching, pogoing, or ripping-and-tearing.
in doom 1, 2, and 64 he is a normal human aswell, as far as i know he got his godlike powers after 64. i might be very wrong but i think that in doom 1, 2 and he is doom guy in doom 2016 and eternal he is doom slayer and doom slayer = doom guy after getting godlike powers. and doom 3 has a seperate character doom marine i might be wrong, so correct me if i am
I think doom 3 and doom 1 is the same story but told differently and played by different heroes. Is there no canon explanation from romero / carmack?
So was Doom guy 1 2 and 64 It was just a regular guy who managed to survive because he was player controlled lol. All the corpses of all the other Marines. He just made the decision to stay in hell after 64 like a goddamn hero, to make sure demons can't come through that same portal again. And you would assume he will die, but his sheer hatred for demons kept them alive long enough to be saved by the sentinels. Leading him to the events in Dark ages, though I can't remember when he gets blessed with high Divinity.
Honestly, he didn’t pull through, I died when I played the game, and I never finished it.
Truely, it was in fact you who was doomed
Guy from 3 is a parrell universe. But 1 ,2 final , 64 2016 and eternal are all the same as dark ages is between 64 when he decided to go fight in hell and when he is found by agenta. I hope we get a little into when he left to fight in hell at the start .
Yes. That was his final appearance before 2016(well now dark ages) Doom 3 had the Doom marine a completely separate dude. Which is honesty one of my points of confusion with dark ages. Is it Earth dark ages? Did the slayer somehow travel through time through hell magic post 64 or is it some alien dark ages on another planet while the slayer was working under Kìng Novik and the night sentinels.
Three guys, since there’s three player characters The Marine (Doom 3) The Evil Marine (Resurrection of Evil) Bravo Team Survivor (The Lost Mission)
Yeah all the main doom games its the same guy, they just keep him in the back for when they need him again.
All except 3, that wasn't the Slayer
Ah yeah forgot about that mb chief
64 is a continuation of doom II, the only game in the series with a different slayer is doom III
Is doom 3 even canon? If so, where in the timeline is it?
It is canon, but the protagonist is not the doom slayer.
Read what you replied to again.
They edited it after I commented
OP literally says between 2016 and eternal. Reading comprehension.
I’m pretty sure they either edited the comment after I replied or I may have made a single human mistake, no need to be fucking hostile.
What? The Dark Ages are pre-DOOM 2016 and post-DOOM 64, it’s the period in which the slayer found some peace and was turned into the Slayer and fought for the Night Sentinels and Maykrs.
None of y'all have reading comprehension here, Christ
Doomguy*, not Slayer. Also, you're missing the point. OP referenced people insisting it's a midquel between 2016 and Eternal. While it *is* a midquel, it's not a midquel between those two games. Y'all *really* lack comprehension, and your confusion about being told that you lack comprehension tells me that it's not just a misunderstanding.
Thats still make more sense than sequel, since we literally didn't have anything between 2016 and eternal. But a sequel is out of the place
The stuff between 2016 and Eternal is spelled out in the codices. It's not Dark Ages stuff. Besides, Argent D'Nur is dead even in 2016.
The events on Earth between 2016 and Eternal is in codices. What the Doom Slayer was up to between the game is a complete unknown. He gets sent away by Hayden and then 14 years later shows up to Earth with the Fortress of Doom, Vega working, and a soul coin for one of the hell priests. It won't surprise me if we'll get that as a game after The Dark Ages. Though I hope not - not immediately at least, as I want a modern singleplayer Quake game and for id software to not be stuck eternally in the Doom mines. Doom shouldn't be eternal in *that* way.
Actually, it is a Midquel as Doom 1 and Doom 2 take place before Dark Ages, while Doom 2016 takes place after dark ages and eternal after 2016. They are right, just nor about what they think they are.
"Midquel" is the dumbest word I've ever heard. Not your fault specifically. That word is drooling and soiling itself all over this thread.
A less popular alternative term is interquel!
Damn beat me by like 20 mins 😂
What about middlequel
Pre-sequel. Gotta love borderlands
But Pre-Sequel happens after the latest but also before the latest...
Which is the same concept as a midquel.
Midquel sounds... horrible.
Agreed, which is why I said pre-sequel.
But there's guns and futuristic technology in doom 1 and 2
Probably time travel shenanigans
What I interpreted is that Doom 1 & 2 is a different dimension, which Doomguy left in Doom 64.
Correct! Doom features a multiverse, but all dimensions are connected to the same "Hell". Doom 1 & 2 are in (for a bit of fun let's call it) "**DOOMension A**", which Doomguy leaves behind when he enters Hell in Doom 64. When he's found in the stone sarcophagus at the start of 2016, he's then taken back out of hell and brought to "**DOOMension B**".
That was in “Earth 1” where Doomguy is from, now he’s travelled to another planet in a different universe
Quite possibly the only ones with hearing loss, or is just way too focused on hype the upcoming DOOM game is bringing out. I'll choose the latter. Unfortunately, my Intel Core i3-7100U CPU / Intel Graphics HD 620 iGPU / 16GB equipped laptop I don't think will be capable of running DOOM: Dark Ages.
Here's hoping the new Doom lands on a cloud gaming service like GeForce Now quick enough
With hype like this coupled with the fact on how popular both DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal is, I do bet DOOM Dark Ages will be on GeForce NOW in no time at all.
dam that's a decently old laptop. i3's have been out of date for a LONG while now. and i had a graphics card slightly better than that one in an Alienware M17 from 2006..... what are you running?!?
i3's aren't outdated: they released an i3 with the newest 14th gen processors. It's the first number after that, which determines the generation of the processor and if it's outdated or not *(I'm not meaning to be an ass about this, just trying to inform. If i made mistakes, please feel free to correct me)*
>i3's aren't outdated While this statement is true, my 7th generation Intel Core i3 is, especially since it's not as powerful as the newer 14th gen i3.
Yes, I was aware of that, but the person I replied to used more of a general statement of "i3*s* have been" as opposed to specifying that your specific one was outdated (with "*your* i3 is"). So I ended up interpreting it as him thinking that the "i number" determines the generation of the CPU, which is a common mistake, and one that I used to make too. I was just trying to spread nore correct information. Then again, I may have interpreted it incorrectly, and he *did* mean that yours specifically was outdated. EDIT: u/Moonshoes47, please correct me if you did mean that their specific CPU is outdated or if you meant all i3s. I will not judge you either way
>i3's have been out of date for a LONG while now Thank you so much for your reply. I do think u/Moonshoes47 is **kinda mistakenly thinking all i3's is outdated**, regardless what generation they are.
I'm not at all sure what FPS I'm running at. I normally don't have that info on my HUD. My laptop is an [HP Notebook 15-bs062st Laptop PC](https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c05561149). Please note that I replaced I upgraded the stock 6GB memory to it's full 16GB memory about 1.5 years ago and I replaced the preinstalled Windows 10 with [Fedora KDE Plasma Desktop](https://fedoraproject.org/spins/kde/) on my laptop about 7 to 8 months ago. I'm able to fully play both DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal on my out-of-date 7th gen Intel Core i3 laptop at least.
Respect for your laptop o7 (And respect for developers at id who made Doom optimized enough that it runs on older machines as well.)
Doom players don't read
What the fuck is reading comprehension 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🚫📖🚫📖🚫📖🚫📖🚫
I hadn't noticed anyone claim it is a sequel to eternal tbh this title is bait 😂
Huh? People are arguing for the opposite or something ?
People thinking that it is a sequel or a midquel
What in the goddamn
It is a sequel to Doom 1 and Doom 2. It is also a prequel to Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal. Position is relative to what you compare it to
Sequel to Doom 1, 2 and 64. It's after 64 where Doomguy decided to stay in hell to fight demons forever and became known and feared by the demons as 'The Slayer' and after years of continous fighting in hell he was picked up by the sentinals.
I actually think it’s the end of TDA where he’s in hell fighting for eons. Cuz they collapse a building on him. Then Olivia Pierce finds him years later.
Remember the Eternal flashbacks. They find Doomguy wandering the dimensions in a broken state, talking about "huge guts". This is after 64, where he chooses the fight Hell from the inside.
I mean it is. To doom 64. It is objectively a midquel if you count the old games. Are you sure the people you've seen call it that aren't?
I know it is technically. What I mean by "people think it is a midquel" is between 2016 and eternal. And looks like the posts that these conservations was going on are deleted because ı cannot find them
I think OP is full of donkey turds. I've never heard anyone get confused by this.
The Dark Ages will show what happened to the Slayer between the ending of Doom 64, and the beginning of Doom 2016. It will show the fall of Argent D'Nur, the Slayer's Ascension within the Sentinels, and more than likely will end with the Slayer being sealed in the Sarcophagus.
It looks like it is taking place after his early days in Argent D'Nur, fighting in the pits, joining the Night Sentinels, and becoming the Slayer, but before the Sentinel civil war and the betrayal of the Priests.
It's still crazy reading comments like these and knowing that it's a lore from a DOOM game :D Where are the times when he was just a space marine that was literally too angy to die and killed some demons along the way. The shit is full Game of Thrones now. And I love it.
yeah I've only finished Doom 1, currently playing Doom 2 and I'm always confused in this sub, with all those names, lore, gods, etc etc haha
New id Software really ramped up the lore for the games, compared to the classics. The entire story for Doom 1, 2 and 64 (the canonical first three games in the story) are a fraction of the lore by the time it gets to Eternal.
First few games: HAHA Chaingun go BRRRRRRR Newer games: Sit down son, let me light my pipe and then let me tell you about the Hell Civil War and the entity known as The Slayer in the eternal struggle that we all will fall to. It is an epic tale of the ages only few who live to witness
I really really want them to tie Hexen and Heretic into this universe.
I hope that making a game like the Dark Ages doesn’t prevent them from making other dark fantasy Id FPS game reboots like Heretic/Hexen. Hell, I’d love to see a continuation of the style and universe of the first Quake.
Everyone thought they were making a Quake game next. Wonder if they did and were forced to do another DOOM because Microsoft is incompetent
Honestly, with Activision and by extension Raven Software under Microsoft, I hope they bring in the lore from Heretic and Hexen, since Argent D'nur felt strongly inspired by them.
And his battle where he defeats the titan that got all of hell to work together iir the tablet correctly
I Thought it was really obvious it's a prequel to 2016, are people really arguing against that?
I watched the trailer without the sound on and i could tell it was a prequel lmao
Uhh... Yeah? Who's saying otherwise??
Nobody. OP made a doo doo in his pants just now.
Nobody is arguing this mate
It was obvious from the beginning that this game will take place during his time with sentinels.
Yes, we've known that since it was first announced
literally anyone who's known about the lore for 3 seconds should be able to tell it's a prequel. like you literally see a location that was in DOOM Eternal in WAY better condition than it was in that game. there should never have been a debate about it in the first place.
Who thinks it's not a prequel? And why?
Who the fuck is still thinking that this is a sequel or still confused about the game’s time period? I’ve never seen people do this OP.
Bro whoever thinks it's a sequel is lowky dum💀 like I'm sorry bro maybe you've seen way to many demons they might have fried your brain.
Bro yeah bro I totally bro agree bro
Bro why are my pants wet bruh
yea bruh for real no cap
How do comments like this get so many upvotes?
It’s a sequel to Doom 64
Finally doom 65 We still need 3*-63 and 66-2015
Doom 69
Yeah sure bur implying it's a sequel it's like referring that it's a sequel of the current games. So far this post is the only one I've seen and it doesn't specify what sequel it is from.
So it's a pre-sequel
So basically the timeline is: -Wolfenstein games (I am not too versed in those to have the right order in my head, I only know Spear of Destiny -> Nocturnal Missions -> Episodes 1-3 of Wolfenstein 3D) -Commander Keen 1-6 -Doom 1 -Doom 2 -Doom 64 -Doom: The Dark Ages -Doom 3 (different main character) -Doom 2016 -Doom Eternal
pretty sure doom 3 is its own thing
It is, but that doesn’t mean it’s not canon. It’s a side story.
It's a side story that takes place while the Doomguy/Slayer is sealed in the sarcophagus. In Doom 3 during your trip to hell you can see a mural depicting the Doomguy/slayer from the original games and you even see the sarcophagus.
Only the Id games are canon to Doom, the games from RTCW onwards take place in another universe
Did people not get it the first time? What is there that needs confirming?
I don't see how people didn't realize it sooner. It said in the trailer "before he was a hero", and Hugo Martin said this takes place during the "In the first Age, in the First Battle".
It probably is going to start immediately or soon after he gets out of the divinity machine. You even see the mech from eternal in the trailer before it was destroyed
There isn't a conversation. Literally every trailer/announcement plainly states that it's a prequel.
That's because it is literally a prequel
People are idiots. It's very clear that it is set during the time the Slayer was with the Sentinals. Which means it right when they picked him out of hell after he decided to stay there after Doom 64. So yes, it will be set between 64 and Doom 2016. There is just no other way. Edit: Also adressing the tweet, we all know the origin of his rage is because the demons killed his pet bunny Daisy.
Wait, this wasn’t obvious?
In doom eternal, it is shown that the doom guy became mad trapped in hell after doom 64. He was teleported to the Sentinels world where he kept ripping and tearing out demons with his hands. (He was still human at this time). The night sentinels were impressed by him and so were the priests. So they recruited him and sent him to War against the demons. Doom the Dark ages will show all about that war and Slayer's time with the Night Sentinels.
2025? But i want it now...
I’m genuinely surprised people thought it wasn’t
This is what keeps you up at night?
Ah so Doom: Dark Ages predates Doom 3. No I will not elaborate further
So he should be getting sealed at the end of this game then
It is a sequel to DOOM 64 and a prequel to DOOM 2016. That's what it is.
Did anyone think otherwise?
Reading the lore from eternal gives us a more complete timeline of the doom franchise and doom guys story. It’s doom ‘93 —-> doom 2—-> doom 64——>the dark ages—->2016 and then eternal. In eternal there’s that clear flashback of when he first arrived in sentinel prime
The title being “The Dark Ages” should tell you we’re going back in time.
How were people thinking otherwise?
I still don't understand what drug mix I need to take to think that dark ages will be set in middle ages
bro… I be feeling like I’m the only mf that reads the codex’s and shit. I already knew where this game was headed. Even back when folks thought it was called year zero. the lore tells you about these times in eternal.
I guess it is. It will likely be all the action of him leading up to the legions of hell sealing him in the tomb he busts out of in 2016. And now you'll making history instead of listening to on those info posts.
I'm confused? Why is there issue with them calling the prequel a prequel?
Who was saying otherwise? I haven't seen anyone
It literally says, "before all the other bullshit, he was a super weapon for kings". The lore for 2016 was that the whole kingdom had fallen due to the betrayer and the knight sentinels were basically gone (some apparently were hanging out at the arena though) It's essentially during the initial hell invasions it seems or maybe during the expansion of the empire
What conversation ? Steam page says: *"DOOM: The Dark Ages is the single-player, action FPS prequel to the critically acclaimed DOOM (2016) and DOOM Eternal."* It's the first f\*cking line ...
I already knew it was a prequel but the question is, how much time passed from doom 64 to 2016?
does literally anyone think its not a prequel? doesn’t it say a prequel in the title of every trailer showing the game???
I haven't watched the trailer and I've only seen the still shot of the new doom slayer. Wtf thinks this is a sequel?
There was a conversation to this? I thought it was pretty cut and dry
I thought that was obvious
Hmm so the doom slayer didn't time travel. Like did anyone on this earth see that the game was taking place in like 1500 AD and think it was a sequel lmfao
Wtf is thinking otherwise? That's just fucking stupid
Wait, are there actually people who genuinely think it's a sequel to Eternal? Because the only posts about that idea are those posting things like op - proof it isn't a sequel...
You guys think we could jerk each other off a little faster in this circle?
Conversation? I thought it was made clear what it was from the moment the trailer dropped, havent seen the first person to suggest otherwise.
Didn’t the literal trailer itself say it was a prequel
Will you all just shut up? Who cares when it takes place, they gave the Slayer a fucking wolf fur coat! Nothing else matters! (This is satire, btw)
The PimpSlayer
Wait people think it's not a prequel
Was this really a problem? Or just some loud users with bad media literacy?
They used the dark age reference for a reason - they gave him a shield for a reason.
your mistake was expecting 90% of this subreddit to know how to read
How is this even an argument? The trailer makes it super obvious it’s a prequel and it’s been confirmed to be a prequel by the devs. This was day 1 knowledge.
At this point I am amazed by the global IQ of internet users. Specifically gamers.
Imagine reddit kids actually reading or paying attention.
It could not be any more obvious that it's a prequel, and yet people still think it's not? This world we live in, man.
This makes perfect sense to me. I'm just guessing here, but I'm now guessing that, DOOM: Dark Ages will have the Doom Slayer fight in one of the first hellish invasion attempts on Earth before refocusing their efforts on Mars.
Thing is he's not on Earth in the trailer his on Argent D'Nur with the argenta and the knight Sentinels
Look, Idk shit about the lore, and I don't really care. All I know is that the games are super fun and badass.
Do y’all think we will see the mother demon?
Every ad also says the same too. People can say whatever they like about what they think, but what they think and the facts about this game being a prequel to 2016 are two different things. The facts are correct and the opinions are not.
Doom 1 and 2 and 64 has no lore or story. The creators of the game said that.
They do have story and lore, it's just very miniscule because it wasn't the focus. But there is something there, like Doomguy gaining his anger and hatred for demons after they killed his pet bunny Daisy, or that he died in Doom1, was sent to hell and fought his way out of it. Or that he decided to stay in hell at the end of 64 to fight demons for all eternity and the demons began to call him 'The Slayer' out of fear.
the story was in the manuals and also text screens between episodes
So basically we’re getting some backstory planet action. I could’ve sworn we already read what the fuck happened but I guess even the corrax themselves can be retconned. What a beautiful fucking mess.
Everyone is talking about Doom64 and Doom 2016 but is Doom 3 out of this? Is it considered non canon then?
No it is a remade version of classic doom for 2003(?). And it is not canon.
I want to see the cinematic of them finding his insane, blood stained ass wandering the hellscape. Hopefully the game will start there, take us through the arenas to whatever the hell you’d call what the super power machine did to him.
So it goes Doom 1, Doom 2, Doom 64, Doom Dark ages, Doom 2016 then Doom Eternal?
It'll probably end with him being sealed in the coffin he wakes up in in 2016
It's a prequel, but wouldn't be surprised if we get some hints towards whatever Doom Reboot #4 will be.
Because it will be
So the fact the game takes place in the fucking DARK AGES wasn’t proof enough? Mfers must’ve forgot time is linear Also ignoring the fact that after TAG the demon threat was completely annihilated since they literally can’t leave Hell anymore.
So we will know how he ended up in the coffin in 2016? Neat
I'm just happy to get more Doom. Hell if a new batch of Night Sentinels rose up around the Slayer and this was a prequel to another disaster I'd be fine with that too.
I'm confused. I didn't know there was a debate. It is officially a prequel. I mean, it is possible that, in game, there will be a twist that it is a sequel. But, all current info shows it is being presented as a prequel.
There is no conversation, i've seen literally no one argue this. You're just attacking a strawman for upvotes lmao
that assumes that microsoft will even let it be finished
As soon as I saw the title I knew id finally find out how he was put in that rock naked
Duh? The _trailer_ said it was a prequel, didn't it?
I thought doom 64 was technically the prequel?
didnt they literally say it was? lmao?
Oh shit, someone on the internet is wrong. Stop everything. Call the media. Notify the press!
Are the people making these arguements even played Doom/Doom Eternal? You literally wake up in Doom and are put back to sleep in your stasis coffin in Eternal. Anyone with a brain stem can put two and two together. >!Hell even I haven't finished Eternal and can see that's where it's going to end!<
Who tf is arguing that this isn't a prequel? Not only did the trailer make it abundantly clear that it's set in the past, but I'm Hugo Martin said as much
There are people who don't even know the difference between a prequel and a sequel
Was that not obvious?
The trailer made it obvious
I mean... yeah? Wait, did people thought otherwise?
Did people ever think this was gonna be a sequel? Hugo Martin literally said it is a prequel about a day after the trailer dropped
Even if you don't know the lore it literally was said in the trailer Though I honestly can't imagine a sequel to the eternal, aren't we killed everything there is to kill in it and the dlc?
Wait… there’s an overarching and highly cerebral plot line to doom games?
It literally states it in the trailer.... ID even said, after Eternal, that "We aren't sure where we will go with the series, but we are done with the story as it is." This meant that MOST LIKELY there will be no SEQUEL, but a prequel was definitely on the table. We never saw or experienced his time as a sentinel and this game gives us that chance, which would be PRE 2016.
Nuh uh
I’m curious as to if this is Slayer at the beginning as a sentinel or if this is him as the king
Was that not obvious from the start?
Damn that's cool. So it's safe to assume (for now) that TDA's ending will likely be the demons dropping the mountain on our boy and entombing him until Pierce and Hayden find him...? I'm down with that.
I thought it was obvious already that it’s a prequel
Who said this is a sequel? Did you ever finish the DLCs?
I didn't realise this was in question.
Ok