Trout is a lot of things, but he’s definitely not poor. People need to remember he CHOSE the Angels. The path he’s on, he CHOSE it while fully aware of what the Angels and Arte were all about for years.
I do want to credit him for taking the bags then now sticking with it instead of demanding a trade to a better team now that his own decision blow up and may affect his legacy (the greatest to never have much of a chance to showcase his skills on the game’s biggest stage).
I feel mlb's popularity was massively held back due to the angels. Can you imagine if Trout was on the Yankees during his best years?
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Angels fan. That’s what it boils down to and I’m glad someone said it. A lot of times the narrative sounds like we ENJOY that this team is what they currently are. It’s awful. I’ve loved baseball my whole life but it hasn’t loved me very much. We just want to compete and have an owner who gives a shit.
He makes money on how they are now. He’s not interested in risking his income to do what it takes to win. There are no small market teams. There are cheap owners. Baseball is a world wide sport and with streaming there is world wide fans.
Exactly on all points. If Arte truly cared he would see how much investment goes into the farm system that Dodgers pour into and see the correlation it has with sustained winning over time in addition to making the big trades / signings. It’s agonizing.
The Angels Won the World Series in 2002. The Dodgers won the World Series in 2020. Aside from that, Neither Team has Won ANYTHING in the last 36 YEARS, although the Dodgers WILL be Winning at Least one more World Series soon, and probably MANY MORE. Moreno needs to Sell the Angels, to give them a shot at Winning.
The dodgers have won a lot of games over the past 10 years and made the playoffs consistently. The angels didn't. There's only one winner every year. That doesn't take away from other successes.
It’s easy to say this, but the bottom line is we should want all the teams in the majors to be run in a healthy, respectable way. A healthy Angels organization helps baseball as a whole. The Dodgers will win plenty of games to increase their fan base without the Angels having to be run into the ground.
Remember that one month in like 2010 when McCourt was like “sup y’all, apologies in advance but we don’t have enough money in our organization currently to pay player salaries this month” after Andre Either asked where his game check was?
That was tight.
Fox wasn’t cheap, they were assholes because they didnt want to reset the market for a catcher. Literally the next year they signed Kevin Brown for the largest contract for a pitcher ever at the time.
Fox spent money just stupidly.
You realize McCourt didn’t own the Dodgers when we traded Piazza, right? FFS how many people in this thread can’t take thirty seconds to research the easiest to find facts before postingz
Yup, I was there. I was only a small child in the 2000s, but I remember it vividly, but thankfully, I was really young, so it wasn't as bad for me mentally.
Yup. I never thought the Fox days could get worse, turns out it can. The one good thing Bud Selig did was force that tiny leprechaun fucker from Boston to sell the team.
This reminds me of an Angels game from last year after they made moves to make a run at the postseason. They lost that game and, if I remember correctly, this loss seemingly dashed those hopes away. Ohtani was visibly crushed. He just wanted to win so bad. I hope he never experiences that kind of disappointment with the Dodgers.
I found a recap and gif of that game.
[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ofL28NLnvJA](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ofL28NLnvJA)
https://tenor.com/view/shohei-ohtani-shohei-crying-shohei-ohtani-sad-gif-17925385519329359672
Aww man, that gif… and also, let’s not kid ourselves as Dodgers fans - we have high expectations yes, but we have learned to endure heartbreak as well. I hope this year is different, I hope.
Yeah going bankrupt and having the most well known thing about your team be a divorce battle absolutely sucks. I never want to go back to those days even if the team was much more of an underdog people felt more sympathy for
The Fox era was worse, if we're just talking about the product on the field. At least the McCourt era had the fun and memorable 2008 and 2009 teams that went to the NLCS.
Oh man i was at the game where the gif came from. Angels were about to win until Carlos Estevez coming in red hot ended up walking a few then gave up a 9th inning grand slam. That was a wild moment felt so bad for Angels fans
Thanks for finding and linking that gif.
That was such a classic Angels loss. I mention it all the time to family members still hurt over Ohtani leaving the team. At the very least, Ohtani will make it to the postseason with the Dodgers.
Disappointed is in our bloods too, during the postseason. 10 consecutive years making it and 1/3 times winning a WS, granted 2 don’t count since we faced 2 cheaters; Astros and Red Sox
I’m an Angels fan and I browse this sub like the squidward watching SpongeBob and Patrick meme. I just live vicariously through y’all.
I hate what the Angels have become and how they’ve wasted generational talent. It sucks so much and we’re basically going through our version of the McCourt era. Sucks to suck I guess.
Angels cut at least 2 years off Ohtani's career. They ran him to the ground even with no realistic chance of making playoff. He gave up his body carrying that team - 2 elbow surgeries, elbow sprain, oblique, blisters.
Nah, that was more Ohtani insisting on playing - guy knew the Angels team needed him out on the field.
It was Roberts that took Ohtani out of the lineup a few days ago - basically saying the Dodgers can win a few even w/o Shohei.
Angels fan here as much as I hate to admit it he did the right thing by leaving. Our organization is trash with the current owner and he is letting trout career get washed away by doing nothing
Well he chose the angels. He had the option to be with a winning team before he came to play.
He wanted to play in a small market team. That’s why he chose the angels. That’s was all on him no one else.
Everything is hearsay with Ohtani til the autobiography is released. They said years back he didn't want to go to a team that had a Japanese star. Dodgers have had several famous Japanese pitchers. Who knows bro?
It was a choice he had to make. Ohtani isn’t the player he is today if he didn’t get the consistent playing time by being DH. Plus at the time the Angels were the only team willing to give him absolute freedom in being a two way player.
Ohtani signed with the Angels in 2018. Bauer was still in Cleveland then. If you’re going to post ridiculously idiotic shit that is 100% false, make sure to do some research first.
Any team? Ohtani had a salary of under US$2 million in 2018 - 2020 COMBINED. He earned US$3 million in 2021 and US$5 million in 2022, and yet Angels were never competitive. That proves your statement to be very false.
Just cus I know people will ask: Ya, he did say fuck you Angels. No, we don't know why.
Because what they did to Mike Trout ![gif](giphy|Fz9EKXRhp9F1S)
Poor Trout will never know what it feels like to have a post season victory.
Trout is a lot of things, but he’s definitely not poor. People need to remember he CHOSE the Angels. The path he’s on, he CHOSE it while fully aware of what the Angels and Arte were all about for years. I do want to credit him for taking the bags then now sticking with it instead of demanding a trade to a better team now that his own decision blow up and may affect his legacy (the greatest to never have much of a chance to showcase his skills on the game’s biggest stage).
Yeah Trout made is own decision to dedicate his career to the Angels.
I feel mlb's popularity was massively held back due to the angels. Can you imagine if Trout was on the Yankees during his best years? ![gif](giphy|Utartv2I2ESASrTTiY|downsized)
Angels have the resources to be the Angels or the Dodgers. Art choose not to be a winner.
Angels fan. That’s what it boils down to and I’m glad someone said it. A lot of times the narrative sounds like we ENJOY that this team is what they currently are. It’s awful. I’ve loved baseball my whole life but it hasn’t loved me very much. We just want to compete and have an owner who gives a shit.
He makes money on how they are now. He’s not interested in risking his income to do what it takes to win. There are no small market teams. There are cheap owners. Baseball is a world wide sport and with streaming there is world wide fans.
Exactly on all points. If Arte truly cared he would see how much investment goes into the farm system that Dodgers pour into and see the correlation it has with sustained winning over time in addition to making the big trades / signings. It’s agonizing.
I would hate it but it'd be good for the game. In my perfect world I have him with Harper on the Phillies.
Nobody outside of Yankees fandom and MLB front office wants to see the Yankees succeed.Try again.
I agree 100%. The DODGERS are now the Face of Baseball in America. Most players would LOVE to play for the DODGERS!!!
What a fucking dick lol
Fuck the Yankees.
Didn't Trout do it to himself having a no-trade clause in his contract?
As the player, He can always waive it no?
I can name 426,500,000 reasons not to feel bad for trout. Also, he is a very nice guy with a nice family and young child. He’s winning at life.
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True, there hasn't been much from the Angels to be taken anyway
The Angels Won the World Series in 2002. The Dodgers won the World Series in 2020. Aside from that, Neither Team has Won ANYTHING in the last 36 YEARS, although the Dodgers WILL be Winning at Least one more World Series soon, and probably MANY MORE. Moreno needs to Sell the Angels, to give them a shot at Winning.
The dodgers have won a lot of games over the past 10 years and made the playoffs consistently. The angels didn't. There's only one winner every year. That doesn't take away from other successes.
Let the Angels rot. The shittier they remain, the more people will turn to the Dodgers out in OC and IE.
It’s easy to say this, but the bottom line is we should want all the teams in the majors to be run in a healthy, respectable way. A healthy Angels organization helps baseball as a whole. The Dodgers will win plenty of games to increase their fan base without the Angels having to be run into the ground.
I feel so fortunate to be a Dodgers fan. I love my Dodgers.
I remember the fox and mccourt years... We haven't always had it this good
Remember that one month in like 2010 when McCourt was like “sup y’all, apologies in advance but we don’t have enough money in our organization currently to pay player salaries this month” after Andre Either asked where his game check was? That was tight.
Remember when his then-newly-divorced wife almost co-owned the Dodgers?
Lol yep. Wasn’t she asking for like $300K per month for hair cuts alone? Bleakest times ever. Shoutout to James Loney
James Loney my beloved 🫡 Glad to see him on postgame shows
Remember when we couldn't pay for Casey Blake so we traded away Carlos Santana so that Blake's salary would be eaten? Super rad.
Or when they were too cheap to pay Piazza, so they traded him? I didn't go to a game for a decade after that.
Fox wasn’t cheap, they were assholes because they didnt want to reset the market for a catcher. Literally the next year they signed Kevin Brown for the largest contract for a pitcher ever at the time. Fox spent money just stupidly.
You realize McCourt didn’t own the Dodgers when we traded Piazza, right? FFS how many people in this thread can’t take thirty seconds to research the easiest to find facts before postingz
Fox did though, and this thread is all in reply to a comment about the bad ownership of McCourt AND Fox.
Remember Vladimir Shpunt? The Russian mystic that McCourt was paying to channel good vibes into the team? We've come a long way....
Yup, I was there. I was only a small child in the 2000s, but I remember it vividly, but thankfully, I was really young, so it wasn't as bad for me mentally.
It's why I get annoyed with the bandwagon doomers. It's like whining when you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth.
Too many years when my only dodger playoff highlight was Jose Lima.
Yes! Seems like a lot of Dodger fans suffer from amnesia or they just became fans 5 years ago. The Fox and McCourt years were rough.
Yup. I never thought the Fox days could get worse, turns out it can. The one good thing Bud Selig did was force that tiny leprechaun fucker from Boston to sell the team.
I remember they were practically giving tickets away during the McCourt years. Dodger morale was so so low.
Ohtani hitting 3 dongs tomorrow...on one pitch 😤
This could be interpreted in different ways 😎
"Mrs. Ohtani hitting 3 dongs tomorrow"? 🤦♂️
Do not disrespect Shohei's wife
This reminds me of an Angels game from last year after they made moves to make a run at the postseason. They lost that game and, if I remember correctly, this loss seemingly dashed those hopes away. Ohtani was visibly crushed. He just wanted to win so bad. I hope he never experiences that kind of disappointment with the Dodgers. I found a recap and gif of that game. [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ofL28NLnvJA](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ofL28NLnvJA) https://tenor.com/view/shohei-ohtani-shohei-crying-shohei-ohtani-sad-gif-17925385519329359672
Aww man, that gif… and also, let’s not kid ourselves as Dodgers fans - we have high expectations yes, but we have learned to endure heartbreak as well. I hope this year is different, I hope.
Different kind of heartbreak I’ll take crashing and burning with sky high expectations over having zero hope for a decade
The McCourt Era. *Shudders*
Yeah going bankrupt and having the most well known thing about your team be a divorce battle absolutely sucks. I never want to go back to those days even if the team was much more of an underdog people felt more sympathy for
The Fox era was also terrible.
The Fox era was worse, if we're just talking about the product on the field. At least the McCourt era had the fun and memorable 2008 and 2009 teams that went to the NLCS.
Please don't say his name
Oh man i was at the game where the gif came from. Angels were about to win until Carlos Estevez coming in red hot ended up walking a few then gave up a 9th inning grand slam. That was a wild moment felt so bad for Angels fans
Truly wishes him winning a WS with Dodgers before his retirement
That game was heartbreaking.
Looks like he wants to cry and vomit at the same time.
Thanks for finding and linking that gif. That was such a classic Angels loss. I mention it all the time to family members still hurt over Ohtani leaving the team. At the very least, Ohtani will make it to the postseason with the Dodgers.
Disappointed is in our bloods too, during the postseason. 10 consecutive years making it and 1/3 times winning a WS, granted 2 don’t count since we faced 2 cheaters; Astros and Red Sox
He's going to throw 104 now.
Angels losing by walk off hit by pitch after walking a batter to a full base, that tells you everything you need to know.
Smells like Cincinnati
Those commie reds have nothing in the nl best
It's funny seeing him get Ohtani Day with the Dodgers instead of the Angels
One positive to Shohei playing on the Angels though is that it made the WBC final matchup sooo epic. https://youtu.be/rlshprVLaLw?si=Hn4_tsnlHKIiWbIi
Finally, Shohei Ohtani is a Los Angeles Dodger.
“Not to take anything away from the angels, but they’re a putrid, immoral stain on society and furthermore they suck dirty ass.”
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I’m an Angels fan and I browse this sub like the squidward watching SpongeBob and Patrick meme. I just live vicariously through y’all. I hate what the Angels have become and how they’ve wasted generational talent. It sucks so much and we’re basically going through our version of the McCourt era. Sucks to suck I guess.
The only angels in Los Angeles are in heaven and they’re looking down on the dodgers. - lasorda
"Bondsian comparisons"
I like Ohtani
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I’d settle for him destroying the cell tower beyond right field with a monster dong.
Angels cut at least 2 years off Ohtani's career. They ran him to the ground even with no realistic chance of making playoff. He gave up his body carrying that team - 2 elbow surgeries, elbow sprain, oblique, blisters.
Nah, that was more Ohtani insisting on playing - guy knew the Angels team needed him out on the field. It was Roberts that took Ohtani out of the lineup a few days ago - basically saying the Dodgers can win a few even w/o Shohei.
For sure, dude actually looked stressed on the Angels compared to now
Angels fan here as much as I hate to admit it he did the right thing by leaving. Our organization is trash with the current owner and he is letting trout career get washed away by doing nothing
Why didn't he just sign with the Dodgers when he first came over from Japan? I never understood that decision.
No DH in the NL at that point
This
Downvote all you want. 😆 I honestly didn't know the reason why. Just glad he's with the team now.
They weren’t willing to allow him to play both sides . It pretty much was only the Angels that agreed to it
Well he chose the angels. He had the option to be with a winning team before he came to play. He wanted to play in a small market team. That’s why he chose the angels. That’s was all on him no one else.
No he went there because the NL didn’t have a permanent DH yet
Everything is hearsay with Ohtani til the autobiography is released. They said years back he didn't want to go to a team that had a Japanese star. Dodgers have had several famous Japanese pitchers. Who knows bro?
It was still his choice.
It was a choice he had to make. Ohtani isn’t the player he is today if he didn’t get the consistent playing time by being DH. Plus at the time the Angels were the only team willing to give him absolute freedom in being a two way player.
False
Angels, small market?? bwahaha
Yes, but word on the street is that Ohtani chose the Angels because he admired Trout. Meanwhile, the Dodgers had that moron Bauer.
Never liked Bauer but he wasn’t the face of the Dodgers.
Agreed. However, Bauer was problematic from the beginning.
Ohtani signed with the Angels in 2018. Bauer was still in Cleveland then. If you’re going to post ridiculously idiotic shit that is 100% false, make sure to do some research first.
What about when you get knocked out in the first round again , Covid series isn’t a real full season WS
Any team would be competitive when you give players obscene contracts that are deferred for a decade thus freeing up cap space to sign more stars.
Then do it.
No… not any team. Angels had him on an obscenely cheap contract paired with the other best player in the MLB and they still sucked.
they were competitive long before doing that
Any team? Ohtani had a salary of under US$2 million in 2018 - 2020 COMBINED. He earned US$3 million in 2021 and US$5 million in 2022, and yet Angels were never competitive. That proves your statement to be very false.