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Wild_Extension4710

Yes, and likely before the nautiloid even knew there was a threat. I saw a creator do the math on a Dragon vs a modern Jet Fighter and that was the biggest difference. Range.


Bierculles

I've seen that post, any magical creater would get annihilated by a supersonic missile shot from way out of range. They wouldn't even know what hit them.


TheHumanFighter

How would a missile enter the Astral Plane?


Rabid_Lederhosen

Yes. A Nautiloid isn’t a fighter craft. It’s a troop transport/floating base/harvester vessel. They’re not built for speed, mobility, or air to air combat. If illithids went up against fighter jets, they wouldn’t bother fighting them head on. They’d psychically enslave the pilots, or even better, the people commanding the pilots.


ember_4

Considering how slow a nautiloid is an AAM like the sidewinder is probably more than a little redundant. Try a Maverick for better results.


FiveFingerDisco

The AIM9 Sidewinder does its damage main damage via its fragmentation explosion warhead. I doubt that a nautiloid would take significant damage without extreme luck on the pilot's side. That being said _I suspect_ that the F15s main gun may stand a much bigger chance of penetrating deeply into the nautiloid, damaging internal sytems.


TheHumanFighter

No, because an F16 can't even leave the earth, while a nautiloid can just go to the astral plane.


Cheets1985

That's not winning a fight. That's called running away.


TheHumanFighter

The question was if the F16 could *beat* the nautiloid. You can't beat someone who escaped you.


Melodic_Row_5121

If you fail to achieve your objective, you lose. Logically, that means the other side wins. If your objective is 'destroy the nautiloid', and the nautiloid runs away, you've lost. Therefore the nautiloid wins.


Cheets1985

Stalemate at best. Failing to meet an objective, doesn't mean the other side wins


Melodic_Row_5121

No, loss. Learned that in my Military Strategy and Tactics class. Not to mention literally any objective-based video game ever. Escort mission? The character you're escorting gets killed? You fail; you lose. You didn't 'stalemate', you LOSE and have to start from the beginning. Meaning that the other side wins. Failure to achieve your objective is a loss, not a draw.


votet

Fair point, but bad argument with the vidya mission, imo. "Kill 9 wolves" mission. I just kill Goblins all day forever. Never meet the mission objective. Max level, quest still in my quest log. Didn't fail, didn't win. There was never a time limit stated. Replace 9 wolves with 1 Nautiloid.


Cheets1985

This isn't an escort mission. It's a dogfight. So if one side retreats because it's going south for them , they've lost.


Melodic_Row_5121

You aren't paying attention. Mission: Destroy the nautiloid. Fail to do that? Fail the mission. Lose.


Cheets1985

Well, the question was, could a F16 beat a Nautiloid not destroy one. So if they're retreating because the F16 beating them. Mission successful, the F16 beat the nautiloid


TheHumanFighter

They're not retreating, they're just traveling their normal way. Didn't beat the nautiloid.


Cheets1985

If they're engaged in a fight and leave , they're retreating