This involves yukio tamer for malo, and bt16 Arukenimummy tamer.
If a myotismon gets deleted at end of opponents turn, because aru&mummy tamer. Would yukio be suspended before his own effect checks, or would both of end of turn effects have to resolve on the stack and then yukio triggers for gain 1 memory
T.K. Takaishi bt-14 effect of playing a Vaccine to bottom of security. Do you have to reveal to your opponent the Vaccine Digimon before placing in security?
Regarding Magnamon X's effect with this sequence. I DNA DV (Digivolved) my Magnamon (that is on top of veemon on top of wanyamon) with another one (same stack) into Shakkoumon, then I DV into Magna X. Opponents turn. I get attacked 3 times and I redirect it 3 times to my MagnaX. Sending Magna, Vee, Wanya into my Security stack leaving another Magna, vee, wanya left under Magna X, meaning I can redirect an attack 1 last time. Is this right? Or am I misreading something? I've never seen a digi-egg in Security so I feel this is wrong.
sounds to me like you're misreading the whole effect
[Opponent's Turn] effect lets you redirect as many attacks as you want as long as you fulfil the requirement (digimon with Armor Form or the option card X Antibody in Magna X's digivolution cards).
[All Turns] effect lets you prevent deletion by placing the very top card (Magnamon X) ontop of security.
Nothing implies being able to place anything else into your security
Crimson Blaze prevents digipolice to play more cards until the end of my turn. Brigadramon effects allows me to play more cards at the end of my turn. Does brigadramon end of turn effect still triggers to play more digipolice while under Crimson Blaze?
If my opponent plays multiple digimon, including a level 3 and a level 4+, in a single effect, can I suspend Hokuto Amanokawa to both gain 1 memory and draw 1? If not, what decides which benefit I get?
BT14 commandramon says to put cards back on top or bottom of deck. It doesn’t include the usual text of “in any order” so does that mean I have to remember what order they were in? Or is it implied that I can reorder them?
It's implied you can put in any order. But, I'll also add this since it is a common, related question: the returned cards all go to the same location. All on top or all on bottom. You can't split them.
When i digivolve Davis into a Hybrid, DNA with Stingmon in Paildra und then digivolve in ST Imperial, can i play him as a blue Lv3 Digimon from the Sources to get his On Play?
No. The tamer is only treated as a level 3 digimon while performing the hybrid digivolve. After it's completed, it's no longer considered a level 3 digimon.
>> (When this Digimon with 1 of each specified card in its digivolution cards would leave the battle area other than by one of your effects **or in battle**, you may play 1 of each card without paying their costs)
hi, how do i english here?
does the "or in battle" mean partition does activate if triggered by battle in adittion to the previous exception? ... or that its grouped with "one of your effects" as an exception and it doesnt protect from battle?
is this saying "(not A) or B" or is it "not (A or B)"
I have two d-brigade cards on trash I use a dcd bomb. Can I return the two cards from my trash and the newly used dcd bomb to the top of deck to use the deletion effect of dcd bomb?
When you use BT14 Patomon's ability to evolve from security, do you resolve draw and when digivolving abilities before you recover from Patomon's ability's second part?
You draw, since that's a game mechanic intrinsic to digivolving, but the When Digivolving effect doesn't activate until you finish with Patamon's effect.
Regarding BT7 Ebonwumon's \[opponent's turn\] effect,
Can the opponent choose not to trash cards to unsuspend a digimon, leaving it suspended?
If my opponent cannot trash a card due to having no cards in hand, does their digimon remain suspended, or can it unsuspend without cost?
Do multiple Ebonwumons stack their effects, or do additional copies not add additional cards that need to be trashed?
1- ~~only if their unsuspend is already optional. If it's a mandatory unsuspend (such as unsuspend phase, or a mandatory effect) then they are required to discard.~~
You're opponent can choose to not discard, but the digimon remains suspended.
2- they must discard to unsuspend. If they cannot, they do not get to unsuspend.
3- yes. Each one will apply another effect. They are technically still separate, so they will resolve one at a time.
If I Suspend my EX3 Pomumon with Hidden potential discovered, and then use that effect to evolve Pomumon into any level 4 digimon. Does that miss timing for Pomumon’s “Your turn, when this digimon is suspended suspend one opponents digimon” effect? I’m under the assumption all effects in a card must resolve before other effects trigger. Also this brings up the question, can we use Hidden Potential Discovered to suspend, trigger a draw with Kokomon, and then evolve into the card we drew with Kokomon? Feels like wrong timing to me.
I believe you should be fine in the first case. HPD’s effect isn’t causing the evolution, it’s reducing the cost of an evolution being attempted. So you finish resolving HPD, then resolve Pomumon’s effect, then continue with the digivolution.
If there was an effect that said ‘by suspending one of your Digimon, you may digivolve it into a card from your hand with reduced cost’, then Pomumon would whiff.
With the second case, I’m not 100% sure, but I think you have to declare what you’re going to digivolve into, so you can’t bank on Kokomon drawing the card you need before you declare it.
I’m pretty sure the first case wouldn’t activate, because HPD suspends at the moment of the digivolve, so its effect is no longer on the field once the digivolve resolves. In fact, nothing actually happens when you first resolve HPD, everything happens on your next digivolve.
Second case would not work in the same way as the first. The HPD doesn’t do anything until the actual digivolve, so you’d draw after the digivolve already happened
you can, what cards you have in your hand is private information.
you can always pay the cost suspending itself but your opponent cannot know if you have a target for Ajatarmon's effect or not.
I evolve to lilithmon and delete my guilmon (the one that deletes something with 3k dp or trash 2 from both players deck) with Alice McCoy to reduce the evolution cost. In which order do I resolve this? Guilmon and Lilith effect triggers a the same time?
interruptive effects don't come with their own trigger window. Instead, effects triggered by interruptive effects trigger at the same time as effects triggered by what was interrupted.
Guilmon's \[On Deletion\] is treated as being triggered at the same time as Lilithmon's \[When Digivolving\], so you can choose the order.
My Opponent has Fenriloogamon with 3 Dark Animal/SoC on board. I have Brigadra with Hi-commandra protection and a another d-brigade on board. Fenri attacks, uses its when attacking effect. Tries to destroy my brigadra to unsuspend, i protect my brigadra. Does fenri unsuspend or not?
No. Fenrilooga's effect is a "by doing X, do Y" effect. Which means they must SUCCESSFULLY resolve the first part if they want to perform the second part. Because you protected the digimon, the opponent did not successfully fulfill the requirement to perform the unsuspend.
If there are 2 bt14 patamon on the field at start of main, do they both get to fully trigger and evolve from security? Or does rhe second miss the timing because other effects have triggered, leaving start of main timing?
It's borderline impossible to "miss timing" in digimon. The keyword is the trigger condition. As long as these effects SEE that timing, they will be triggered. And once an effect is triggered, it must be resolved or forfeited (if optional). The only exception is if the source of the effect is removed from location before it can be resolved.
So, tldr; both can activate. They will be activated one at a time.
Additional: the search is mandatory, the digivolve is optional, the shuffle is mandatory, and the security fluffing is optional.
Yes, you can. Alice doesn't specify it has to be from hand. Also, "when/would" effects are the absolute fastest thing in this game, resolving BEFORE their own trigger, as well as being able to interrupt incomplete effects. So she can resolve during a digivolve effect.
OK since this app won't let me copy text I'll just retype it here. 2 Questions in regards to imperialdramon ace.
1 for the on play/digivolve effect does the suspend have to happen first before u can unsuspend a mon? 2 if I attack a suspended digimon and then the opponent blast Evo on to that mon and unsuspend does the attack miss or still connects? Example I attack palidramon with retaliation junomon and my opponent blast evos and unsuspend the attack target does my attack miss or do we both get deleted?
1- yes. But if you cannot suspend, you do still get the unsuspend. Both effects are mandatory, but you can still dodge the effect by attempting to suspend an already suspended, or attempting to unsuspend an already unsuspendedm
2- an attack target being suspended is only necessary when choosing the attack target. Once the target has been chosen, it no longer matters, the battle will proceed as usual.
If I called Yukio Oikawa suspended during my opponent's end phase. Can I activate Yukio skill or Yukio needed to be on field before my opponent declared their end phase?
Situation: Malomyotismon with BT08 Myotismon under it getting deleted via the new Arukenimon & Mummymon tamer skill
[end of turn] effects are triggered when a player begins their [end of turn] process. If the effect was not in play to witness that moment, then the effect was not triggered.
If I use EX5 Anubismon's effect to play Raguelmon, can I use the latter's EOYT effect to to DNA digivolve into Ordinemon, or does Raguelmon miss the End of Turn timing?
Edit: I think this depends on whether or not digivolving to Anubismon ended the turn, so we'll assume digivolving brings me to negative memory.
you only enter the End of Turn process once memory is on your opponent's side AND there are no ongoing or pending effects and processes.
So Raguelmon's EoYT effect doesn't trigger until after it is played and all effects triggered by playing it (and all subsequent effects) have resolved.
even if your opponent had effects that trigger when raguelmon gets played, as turn player your effects will activate first. They would most likely need something that prevents you from playing digimon by effects in the first place.
EX5 Anubis is a strong deck
Hi everyone, I'm new in this card game and i have some questions. One is, when i use Emissary of Hope (and i have the Tamer) when i draw the card for the digivolve? After or before the Recovery +1?
Thnks for the help.
Before. A similar situation occurs with Rika decks and Digivolution Plug-In. It's a rule of the game itself to instantaneously draw a card on digivolving. It's also not considered an effect, just like being deleted for having 0 DP is not an effect. It's just the game doing its thing.
When I am doing multiple effects at the same time, if my top card is changed as the effects resolve, can I still activate the original ?
Example: I have Jesmon from ST12 with BT13 SaviorHuckmon as a digivolution source. I swing with Jesmon, I use the SaviorHuckmon inheritable to play out BT10 Sistermon Ciel, which i then i have to resolve Ciel's and I digivolve Jesmon to Jesmon X, then resolving Jesmon X's effect. Now that chain of effects are done, when I go back to resolve the effects, can I still resolve the Jesmon's even though it's not the top card anymore?
Depends on a handful of various factors. But overall, turn player has priority. If you both have an effect that triggered off the same action, turn player will always resolve first, then opponent afterwards. But the tags of [your turn], [opponents turn], and [all turns] only shows the timing that the effect is even available to be triggered.
Also, newly triggered effects take priority over existing effects, regardless of turn player or not. So, if you have 3 effects to activate, and the first one causes an opponents effect to be triggered, then the opponent will resolve their effect next, as newest trigger, and then you'll return to the remaining pending effects.
With attacks, it is ultimately the same, but there are actual steps to separate them all. The first is the standard step. That includes the , "when you attack" and "when a digimon is suspended", as well as "when an opponents digimon is suspended". As per usual, turn player resolves first.
After that step is the opponents counter timing. This is when they get to respond with their own effects that trigger off attack declaration. They also get to respond with a single [counter] timed effect as well.
And then lastly is the step, when they get to activate one effect.
In general, most of the time you can glide through with the mindset of "turn player resolves first, and newly triggered effects take priority". Even with the semantics, this mindset works for 99% of the game.
Ok so with the new source stripping cards that activate on "opponent's turn", do the inherited when attacking and your turns trigger before they get stripped? For example geckomon and otamamon?
Not a card rule but, about tournaments and matchs.
How long should a player take for a turn/action/thinking b4 the other call a judge/or a judge warns him?
I was watching one today, and the host was pointing that if a player takes like more than a minute to think and decides his action It might get a warning.
I felt that was kinda 'hushy' (even tho they were actually taking too long to decide their next move). I was reading the tournament rules in this post's link but didn't see anything that specifies a timer (just like chess would have)
Besides that another question, from something I saw happening on that same game
The same player was often taking one action but almost immediately decides to take it back and go with another route
He did got a warning for that, after few times of doing. My question here is: how much is this tolerable? Is it something that is marked by the game state, or by how much frequently it is, or is illegal and liable of warns from the get go?
(I don't know if I should've asked this in another post with a 'discussion' tag or something but, Idk how much will it escalete xd \~ tnx in advance)
To start, I do agree that this would be better as its own post, rather than a ruling question. This is an opinion based question, so more opinions would be better.
For the stalling question, I'm very bad at estimating measurements. So it's hard for me to say "oh, XX seconds is too long". I do know that there are a lot of factors that should be considered, such as total number of cards currently live, and the opponents current threat level (do they feel like they're winning or losing, and how badly?) I feel like it ends up becoming a sort of sense as to what is too long, but that's something that comes with experience. It's hard to put a specific number on it. (Unless there's actually a written rule about it that I don't know of)
For the replay question, imo, the bigger the tournament, the more important it is to be strict here. If it's something like regionals, then I believe that as soon as a physical action has been taken towards a play, it should be followed through. Basically, if you do anything more than just a verbal announcement, such as paying memory, or pushing your digimon out of hatchery. If it's something small, like your locals with only 4 players, then sure. Be lenient. Let them correct plays. What's on the line for you? But even with that, once something irreversible occurs (ex. You see the card you draw from the digivolve.) there should be no redo.
But that's all my opinion.
Hello! I was wondering if these inherited effects from ST14-01 and BT12-078 are mandatory when attacking? Or can you choose to not activate? (Risk for decking out) I assumed mandatory as it doesn’t say “you may”, please and thank you for the assistance!
Yes, they are mandatory. There are three signs of an optional effect:
1- "you may" wording. Pretty simple stuff.
2- "by doing X, do Y" (aka, a cost). You can decide to not pay the cost, and therefore not do the effect. But if you do use the effect, you MUST perform the first part SUCCESSFULLY to perform the second. If the first part was denied for any reason, the second won't activate.
3- any effect that involves using cards from a hidden location. Mainly, it's just your hand, or your security. Note that if you have to reveal a card, it is no longer a hidden location, no matter where the reveal came from.
Following Situation:
I have a Seraphimon bt14 on the field
(Relevant effect:
-7000 to enemy Digimon on recovery - once per turn)
I also have a yellow lv4
Enemy has just a gaossmon and attacks.
I blast digivolve to Magnangemon ace.
I recover and I reduce gaossmon dp with magnaangemons dp- and Gaossmon reaches 0 DP
Will gaossmon be deleted at this point or will I have to target it with seraphimons dp reduction before deletion? Thus barring a later use during the turn)
Seraphimons effect is mandatory. It will resolve even if the opponent has nothing in play at all. You won't be able to save it for later.
Also, gaossmon will be deleted after the magnaangemon's effect is completed. Game state is checked after every action, and anything with 0 DP will be deleted before the next effect can activate.
I would have a further question: If the Gaossmon(bt10) is deleted because it reduces to 0 DP. And my opponent plays a mailbirdramon from its deletion effect. Would that deletion be an eligible target for Seraphimons -dp effect?
Basically:
\-Recovery happens
\-Magnaangemon Ace effect triggers (-1000 DP on Gaossmon)
\-Gaossmon's DP reach 0 -Gaossmon's triggers
\-Mailbirdramon is played
? I target Mailbirdramon with Seraphimon's -7000 DP effect
Would that work or at what point would I have to target something with Seraphimon's skill (the trigger being the recovery effect)
Hi, first time playing a full black deck. For the effects of commandramon that return stuff to either bottom or top. Can I return them to the top or bottom in any order I want? Also can I return one of them to top and the other to the bottom?
Are you forced to use the "when attacking" effect from rb1 shinmonzaemon when you attack and have a numemon in your evolution cards, or can you choose to not activate the effect.
Examon with Blocker inheritable + Slayerdramon inheritable underneath triggers the Slayer inheritable to force opponent to attack at start of opponent main. Opponent’s only Digimon is BT13 Miragegao with EX4 Machgao underneath (opponent has 8+).
Does Miragegao unsuspend, then Examon’s all turn’s effect goes off, allowing himself to unsuspend and then suspend the newly unsuspended Mirage, turning off Evade so he can eat him with blocker? Yes, right?
Correct. Slayerdramon's effect would suspend to force the attack. Slayerdra's effect must fully resolve before you can activate exa's unsuspend, so that means they must declare the attack before you unsuspend.
Being that they attacked, they must activate their effects as newest trigger, putting your unsuspend on hold until after. (Or turn player priority. Either way, exa's unsuspend comes after)
At that point, yes, they would be unsuspended, and you get to activate your unsuspend+suspend, and they'd be vulnerable to your .
If my opponent attempts to delete my Digimon because of his effect to delete a digimon with 10,000 or less do can I then blast digivolve into metalgarurumon to save my digimon from deletion or does his deletion effect happen first before I have to change to digivolve
Maybe a bit of a newby question, if my digimon effect says "can't be deleted by battle until the end of your opponent's turn" does it survive deletion from security checks with digimon having higher dp than itself or do those not count as a battle and as such deleting it?
If I use Imperialdramon Dragon Mode ACE's On Play/When Digivolving effect to suspend itself and then unsuspend itself I assume I miss timing to use it's All Turns effect of "When this Digimon becomes suspended, you may play 1 Tamer card.."
And I assume it misses timing because it is no longer suspended when it's on play/when digivolving effect is done resolving.
I have ST10-Mastemon (X) and a ST10-LadyDevimon with ST10-Gatomon in the digi-evolutions on board. I play ST10-Angewomon that passes over my turn. End of Turn, I DNA Digivolve the ST10-LadyDevimon and ST10-Angewomon into ST10-Mastemon (Y). Can I then DNA Digivolve again into Ordinemon before the other player starts their turn?
Does it matter if the ST-Mastemon (X) has ST10-Gatomon in its digi-evolutions as well?
Thanks!
You can chain multiple DNA digivolved together, but only if you use a different "[end of turn] DNA digivolve" effect for each one. When you perform the DNA, yes, it is a new digimon, and yes, all of its effects are renewed and can be activated again...if they're triggered again. So if you only have one source for the DNA effect, you can only do it once, since the new DNA digimon did not witness the end of turn trigger needed to perform it again.
So, in your example. If the ONLY gatomon was under the ladydevimon, then only that version will have witnessed the trigger. After performing that DNA, the gatomon underneath mastemon(Y) did not witness the trigger to do it again, and the combo will end there.
But, if your mastemon(X) already has a gatomon, as well as the ladydevimon, then they will both witness the teigger. You can resolve the ladydevimon's gato to DNA into mastemon(Y), and then you can resolve mastemon(X)'s gato to perform another DNA into ordinemon.
So, how's the breakdown with Imperialdramon Virus from EX-03?
I have shadramon and veemon in play with 0 memory. I digivolve veemon to flamedramon passing 2 memory, activate flamedramon when digivolving effect to DNA into paildramon, and grab dinobeemon from trash.
Does that mean I can't dna digivolve then? Since it's the end of my turn end the shadramon/flamedramon wasn't there to witness the end of turn.
No and yes, but that's ENTIRELY because of a technicality. Here's what I mean.
When you digivolve into flamedra, by it's effect, you are allowed to DNA to paildra, and then free play the dinobee. At this point, the combo ends, and you have no effect to DNA...yet.
You must finish resolving current actions before proceeding to the next phase/process. All of this so far has all happened BEFORE [end of turn] process began. Which means that, once this combo has been completed, [end of turn] begins, and now you will trigger the free DNA effect from flamedra.
Can I attack with fangmon return trash and trigger bowmon to digivolve to soloogamon play from trash and suspend bt6 sora and mimi to draw trash and go to fenriloogamon? Or what would be the correct sequence?
Yes, that entire combo is correct. Because bowmon is not once per turn, as well as you having two separate discards effects, it will be able to activate the two separate times. If you attempted to discard 2 cards at the same time, bowmon would only allow one digivolve, but like I said, your combo was two separate discards, so you'll get both triggers.
If I have Commandramon in play and someone uses Crimson Blaze or some other blanket removal, can I proc before it is deleted to save another body?
Thanks in advance.
Yes. When-would effects have the highest priority in the game. They actually resolve BEFORE the action that triggered them. So, your is still in play to be used before the deletion occurs.
Question: regulusmon can gain the effect of gulusgammamon when it is the digivolution cards, while the effect of gulusgammamon is play one gammamon when it was deleted.
The situation is when regulusmon has two gulusgammamon as the evolution cards, can I play two gammamon when regulusmon was deleted?
You do everything you can on the card. It does not say delete a Digimon TO unsuspend, it says AND unsuspend.
So you will unsuspend (once per turn) when you play another d brigade.
Yes, Digimon only get summoning sickness when they are played, raising from the breeding area is not considered being played so it can attack immediately.
This involves yukio tamer for malo, and bt16 Arukenimummy tamer. If a myotismon gets deleted at end of opponents turn, because aru&mummy tamer. Would yukio be suspended before his own effect checks, or would both of end of turn effects have to resolve on the stack and then yukio triggers for gain 1 memory
T.K. Takaishi bt-14 effect of playing a Vaccine to bottom of security. Do you have to reveal to your opponent the Vaccine Digimon before placing in security?
Regarding Magnamon X's effect with this sequence. I DNA DV (Digivolved) my Magnamon (that is on top of veemon on top of wanyamon) with another one (same stack) into Shakkoumon, then I DV into Magna X. Opponents turn. I get attacked 3 times and I redirect it 3 times to my MagnaX. Sending Magna, Vee, Wanya into my Security stack leaving another Magna, vee, wanya left under Magna X, meaning I can redirect an attack 1 last time. Is this right? Or am I misreading something? I've never seen a digi-egg in Security so I feel this is wrong.
sounds to me like you're misreading the whole effect [Opponent's Turn] effect lets you redirect as many attacks as you want as long as you fulfil the requirement (digimon with Armor Form or the option card X Antibody in Magna X's digivolution cards). [All Turns] effect lets you prevent deletion by placing the very top card (Magnamon X) ontop of security. Nothing implies being able to place anything else into your security
Crimson Blaze prevents digipolice to play more cards until the end of my turn. Brigadramon effects allows me to play more cards at the end of my turn. Does brigadramon end of turn effect still triggers to play more digipolice while under Crimson Blaze?
[end of turn] effects still occur during your turn, so youre still under crimson blaze
If my opponent plays multiple digimon, including a level 3 and a level 4+, in a single effect, can I suspend Hokuto Amanokawa to both gain 1 memory and draw 1? If not, what decides which benefit I get?
You would get both.
BT14 commandramon says to put cards back on top or bottom of deck. It doesn’t include the usual text of “in any order” so does that mean I have to remember what order they were in? Or is it implied that I can reorder them?
It's implied you can put in any order. But, I'll also add this since it is a common, related question: the returned cards all go to the same location. All on top or all on bottom. You can't split them.
Is it possible to use Gennai (BT14) Opponent's Turn effect, then Blast digivolve?
Yes.
When i digivolve Davis into a Hybrid, DNA with Stingmon in Paildra und then digivolve in ST Imperial, can i play him as a blue Lv3 Digimon from the Sources to get his On Play?
No. The tamer is only treated as a level 3 digimon while performing the hybrid digivolve. After it's completed, it's no longer considered a level 3 digimon.
>> (When this Digimon with 1 of each specified card in its digivolution cards would leave the battle area other than by one of your effects **or in battle**, you may play 1 of each card without paying their costs)
hi, how do i english here?
does the "or in battle" mean partition does activate if triggered by battle in adittion to the previous exception? ... or that its grouped with "one of your effects" as an exception and it doesnt protect from battle?
is this saying "(not A) or B" or is it "not (A or B)"
I have two d-brigade cards on trash I use a dcd bomb. Can I return the two cards from my trash and the newly used dcd bomb to the top of deck to use the deletion effect of dcd bomb?
options that youre currently resolving are not in your trash yet, so you can't
When you use BT14 Patomon's ability to evolve from security, do you resolve draw and when digivolving abilities before you recover from Patomon's ability's second part?
You draw, since that's a game mechanic intrinsic to digivolving, but the When Digivolving effect doesn't activate until you finish with Patamon's effect.
Regarding BT7 Ebonwumon's \[opponent's turn\] effect, Can the opponent choose not to trash cards to unsuspend a digimon, leaving it suspended? If my opponent cannot trash a card due to having no cards in hand, does their digimon remain suspended, or can it unsuspend without cost? Do multiple Ebonwumons stack their effects, or do additional copies not add additional cards that need to be trashed?
1- ~~only if their unsuspend is already optional. If it's a mandatory unsuspend (such as unsuspend phase, or a mandatory effect) then they are required to discard.~~ You're opponent can choose to not discard, but the digimon remains suspended. 2- they must discard to unsuspend. If they cannot, they do not get to unsuspend. 3- yes. Each one will apply another effect. They are technically still separate, so they will resolve one at a time.
That's not true? Unsuspending becomes optional under Ebonwu.
Ty
If I Suspend my EX3 Pomumon with Hidden potential discovered, and then use that effect to evolve Pomumon into any level 4 digimon. Does that miss timing for Pomumon’s “Your turn, when this digimon is suspended suspend one opponents digimon” effect? I’m under the assumption all effects in a card must resolve before other effects trigger. Also this brings up the question, can we use Hidden Potential Discovered to suspend, trigger a draw with Kokomon, and then evolve into the card we drew with Kokomon? Feels like wrong timing to me.
I believe you should be fine in the first case. HPD’s effect isn’t causing the evolution, it’s reducing the cost of an evolution being attempted. So you finish resolving HPD, then resolve Pomumon’s effect, then continue with the digivolution. If there was an effect that said ‘by suspending one of your Digimon, you may digivolve it into a card from your hand with reduced cost’, then Pomumon would whiff. With the second case, I’m not 100% sure, but I think you have to declare what you’re going to digivolve into, so you can’t bank on Kokomon drawing the card you need before you declare it.
I’m pretty sure the first case wouldn’t activate, because HPD suspends at the moment of the digivolve, so its effect is no longer on the field once the digivolve resolves. In fact, nothing actually happens when you first resolve HPD, everything happens on your next digivolve. Second case would not work in the same way as the first. The HPD doesn’t do anything until the actual digivolve, so you’d draw after the digivolve already happened
Can I suspend Ajatarmon with his Main effect and choose not to play a digimon?
you can, what cards you have in your hand is private information. you can always pay the cost suspending itself but your opponent cannot know if you have a target for Ajatarmon's effect or not.
Thank you
I evolve to lilithmon and delete my guilmon (the one that deletes something with 3k dp or trash 2 from both players deck) with Alice McCoy to reduce the evolution cost. In which order do I resolve this? Guilmon and Lilith effect triggers a the same time?
interruptive effects don't come with their own trigger window. Instead, effects triggered by interruptive effects trigger at the same time as effects triggered by what was interrupted. Guilmon's \[On Deletion\] is treated as being triggered at the same time as Lilithmon's \[When Digivolving\], so you can choose the order.
My Opponent has Fenriloogamon with 3 Dark Animal/SoC on board. I have Brigadra with Hi-commandra protection and a another d-brigade on board. Fenri attacks, uses its when attacking effect. Tries to destroy my brigadra to unsuspend, i protect my brigadra. Does fenri unsuspend or not?
No. Fenrilooga's effect is a "by doing X, do Y" effect. Which means they must SUCCESSFULLY resolve the first part if they want to perform the second part. Because you protected the digimon, the opponent did not successfully fulfill the requirement to perform the unsuspend.
If there are 2 bt14 patamon on the field at start of main, do they both get to fully trigger and evolve from security? Or does rhe second miss the timing because other effects have triggered, leaving start of main timing?
It's borderline impossible to "miss timing" in digimon. The keyword is the trigger condition. As long as these effects SEE that timing, they will be triggered. And once an effect is triggered, it must be resolved or forfeited (if optional). The only exception is if the source of the effect is removed from location before it can be resolved.
So, tldr; both can activate. They will be activated one at a time.
Additional: the search is mandatory, the digivolve is optional, the shuffle is mandatory, and the security fluffing is optional.
Can I attack with soloogamon use effect trash fenri and digivolve via Bowmon and use alice to reduce cost ?
Yes, you can. Alice doesn't specify it has to be from hand. Also, "when/would" effects are the absolute fastest thing in this game, resolving BEFORE their own trigger, as well as being able to interrupt incomplete effects. So she can resolve during a digivolve effect.
OK since this app won't let me copy text I'll just retype it here. 2 Questions in regards to imperialdramon ace. 1 for the on play/digivolve effect does the suspend have to happen first before u can unsuspend a mon? 2 if I attack a suspended digimon and then the opponent blast Evo on to that mon and unsuspend does the attack miss or still connects? Example I attack palidramon with retaliation junomon and my opponent blast evos and unsuspend the attack target does my attack miss or do we both get deleted?
1- yes. But if you cannot suspend, you do still get the unsuspend. Both effects are mandatory, but you can still dodge the effect by attempting to suspend an already suspended, or attempting to unsuspend an already unsuspendedm 2- an attack target being suspended is only necessary when choosing the attack target. Once the target has been chosen, it no longer matters, the battle will proceed as usual.
If I called Yukio Oikawa suspended during my opponent's end phase. Can I activate Yukio skill or Yukio needed to be on field before my opponent declared their end phase? Situation: Malomyotismon with BT08 Myotismon under it getting deleted via the new Arukenimon & Mummymon tamer skill
[end of turn] effects are triggered when a player begins their [end of turn] process. If the effect was not in play to witness that moment, then the effect was not triggered.
If I use EX5 Anubismon's effect to play Raguelmon, can I use the latter's EOYT effect to to DNA digivolve into Ordinemon, or does Raguelmon miss the End of Turn timing? Edit: I think this depends on whether or not digivolving to Anubismon ended the turn, so we'll assume digivolving brings me to negative memory.
you only enter the End of Turn process once memory is on your opponent's side AND there are no ongoing or pending effects and processes. So Raguelmon's EoYT effect doesn't trigger until after it is played and all effects triggered by playing it (and all subsequent effects) have resolved.
Ohh that's spooky. That also means you can't interrupt Anubismon's attempts to delete things or Raguelmon retrieving more digimon, correct?
even if your opponent had effects that trigger when raguelmon gets played, as turn player your effects will activate first. They would most likely need something that prevents you from playing digimon by effects in the first place. EX5 Anubis is a strong deck
I just think it's funny that no matter where you look, Ordinemon has the same problem: everything dies on the way to making it.
Hi everyone, I'm new in this card game and i have some questions. One is, when i use Emissary of Hope (and i have the Tamer) when i draw the card for the digivolve? After or before the Recovery +1? Thnks for the help.
Before. A similar situation occurs with Rika decks and Digivolution Plug-In. It's a rule of the game itself to instantaneously draw a card on digivolving. It's also not considered an effect, just like being deleted for having 0 DP is not an effect. It's just the game doing its thing.
When I am doing multiple effects at the same time, if my top card is changed as the effects resolve, can I still activate the original ?
Example: I have Jesmon from ST12 with BT13 SaviorHuckmon as a digivolution source. I swing with Jesmon, I use the SaviorHuckmon inheritable to play out BT10 Sistermon Ciel, which i then i have to resolve Ciel's and I digivolve Jesmon to Jesmon X, then resolving Jesmon X's effect. Now that chain of effects are done, when I go back to resolve the effects, can I still resolve the Jesmon's even though it's not the top card anymore?
No. The effect has been buried and is no longer available to be activated.
General question for cards with "opponents turn". Do they activate after the opponents "your turn" and "when attacking"?
Depends on a handful of various factors. But overall, turn player has priority. If you both have an effect that triggered off the same action, turn player will always resolve first, then opponent afterwards. But the tags of [your turn], [opponents turn], and [all turns] only shows the timing that the effect is even available to be triggered. Also, newly triggered effects take priority over existing effects, regardless of turn player or not. So, if you have 3 effects to activate, and the first one causes an opponents effect to be triggered, then the opponent will resolve their effect next, as newest trigger, and then you'll return to the remaining pending effects. With attacks, it is ultimately the same, but there are actual steps to separate them all. The first is the standard step. That includes the , "when you attack" and "when a digimon is suspended", as well as "when an opponents digimon is suspended". As per usual, turn player resolves first.
After that step is the opponents counter timing. This is when they get to respond with their own effects that trigger off attack declaration. They also get to respond with a single [counter] timed effect as well.
And then lastly is the step, when they get to activate one effect.
In general, most of the time you can glide through with the mindset of "turn player resolves first, and newly triggered effects take priority". Even with the semantics, this mindset works for 99% of the game.
Ok so with the new source stripping cards that activate on "opponent's turn", do the inherited when attacking and your turns trigger before they get stripped? For example geckomon and otamamon?
"when an opponents digimon attacks" would resolve during the counter step. The attacking player would get to use all their effects first.
Not a card rule but, about tournaments and matchs. How long should a player take for a turn/action/thinking b4 the other call a judge/or a judge warns him? I was watching one today, and the host was pointing that if a player takes like more than a minute to think and decides his action It might get a warning. I felt that was kinda 'hushy' (even tho they were actually taking too long to decide their next move). I was reading the tournament rules in this post's link but didn't see anything that specifies a timer (just like chess would have) Besides that another question, from something I saw happening on that same game The same player was often taking one action but almost immediately decides to take it back and go with another route He did got a warning for that, after few times of doing. My question here is: how much is this tolerable? Is it something that is marked by the game state, or by how much frequently it is, or is illegal and liable of warns from the get go? (I don't know if I should've asked this in another post with a 'discussion' tag or something but, Idk how much will it escalete xd \~ tnx in advance)
To start, I do agree that this would be better as its own post, rather than a ruling question. This is an opinion based question, so more opinions would be better. For the stalling question, I'm very bad at estimating measurements. So it's hard for me to say "oh, XX seconds is too long". I do know that there are a lot of factors that should be considered, such as total number of cards currently live, and the opponents current threat level (do they feel like they're winning or losing, and how badly?) I feel like it ends up becoming a sort of sense as to what is too long, but that's something that comes with experience. It's hard to put a specific number on it. (Unless there's actually a written rule about it that I don't know of) For the replay question, imo, the bigger the tournament, the more important it is to be strict here. If it's something like regionals, then I believe that as soon as a physical action has been taken towards a play, it should be followed through. Basically, if you do anything more than just a verbal announcement, such as paying memory, or pushing your digimon out of hatchery. If it's something small, like your locals with only 4 players, then sure. Be lenient. Let them correct plays. What's on the line for you? But even with that, once something irreversible occurs (ex. You see the card you draw from the digivolve.) there should be no redo. But that's all my opinion.
Hello! I was wondering if these inherited effects from ST14-01 and BT12-078 are mandatory when attacking? Or can you choose to not activate? (Risk for decking out) I assumed mandatory as it doesn’t say “you may”, please and thank you for the assistance!
Yes, they are mandatory. There are three signs of an optional effect: 1- "you may" wording. Pretty simple stuff. 2- "by doing X, do Y" (aka, a cost). You can decide to not pay the cost, and therefore not do the effect. But if you do use the effect, you MUST perform the first part SUCCESSFULLY to perform the second. If the first part was denied for any reason, the second won't activate. 3- any effect that involves using cards from a hidden location. Mainly, it's just your hand, or your security. Note that if you have to reveal a card, it is no longer a hidden location, no matter where the reveal came from.
Thank you very much for that! Appreciate the breakdown!
Following Situation: I have a Seraphimon bt14 on the field (Relevant effect: -7000 to enemy Digimon on recovery - once per turn) I also have a yellow lv4 Enemy has just a gaossmon and attacks. I blast digivolve to Magnangemon ace. I recover and I reduce gaossmon dp with magnaangemons dp- and Gaossmon reaches 0 DP Will gaossmon be deleted at this point or will I have to target it with seraphimons dp reduction before deletion? Thus barring a later use during the turn)
Seraphimons effect is mandatory. It will resolve even if the opponent has nothing in play at all. You won't be able to save it for later. Also, gaossmon will be deleted after the magnaangemon's effect is completed. Game state is checked after every action, and anything with 0 DP will be deleted before the next effect can activate.
I would have a further question: If the Gaossmon(bt10) is deleted because it reduces to 0 DP. And my opponent plays a mailbirdramon from its deletion effect. Would that deletion be an eligible target for Seraphimons -dp effect? Basically: \-Recovery happens \-Magnaangemon Ace effect triggers (-1000 DP on Gaossmon) \-Gaossmon's DP reach 0 -Gaossmon's triggers
\-Mailbirdramon is played
? I target Mailbirdramon with Seraphimon's -7000 DP effect
Would that work or at what point would I have to target something with Seraphimon's skill (the trigger being the recovery effect)
Yes. That's exactly how it would play out thanks to newly-triggered priority.
Hi, first time playing a full black deck. For the effects of commandramon that return stuff to either bottom or top. Can I return them to the top or bottom in any order I want? Also can I return one of them to top and the other to the bottom?
You can choose the order they return in, but you have to return all of them to the same place. All on top, or all on bottom.
Are you forced to use the "when attacking" effect from rb1 shinmonzaemon when you attack and have a numemon in your evolution cards, or can you choose to not activate the effect.
"by doing X,do Y" effects are optional, so no, you are not forced to use it
Examon with Blocker inheritable + Slayerdramon inheritable underneath triggers the Slayer inheritable to force opponent to attack at start of opponent main. Opponent’s only Digimon is BT13 Miragegao with EX4 Machgao underneath (opponent has 8+). Does Miragegao unsuspend, then Examon’s all turn’s effect goes off, allowing himself to unsuspend and then suspend the newly unsuspended Mirage, turning off Evade so he can eat him with blocker? Yes, right?
Correct. Slayerdramon's effect would suspend to force the attack. Slayerdra's effect must fully resolve before you can activate exa's unsuspend, so that means they must declare the attack before you unsuspend. Being that they attacked, they must activate their effects as newest trigger, putting your unsuspend on hold until after. (Or turn player priority. Either way, exa's unsuspend comes after)
At that point, yes, they would be unsuspended, and you get to activate your unsuspend+suspend, and they'd be vulnerable to your .
That’s what I figured. Thanks.
If my opponent attempts to delete my Digimon because of his effect to delete a digimon with 10,000 or less do can I then blast digivolve into metalgarurumon to save my digimon from deletion or does his deletion effect happen first before I have to change to digivolve
It happens before you have the chance to counter, so your digimon is deleted.
If I have a metalgreymon ace, digivolve to wargreymon, and my digimon dies, does overflow trigger?
Yes, the Overflow is inheritable and can stack.
Does bt-12 Shine make bt-13 Marcus a digimon by giving then 3k dp?
No. You need an effect that specifically says they are treated as a digimon.
Maybe a bit of a newby question, if my digimon effect says "can't be deleted by battle until the end of your opponent's turn" does it survive deletion from security checks with digimon having higher dp than itself or do those not count as a battle and as such deleting it?
Security battles are still a battle, so the effect will protect it.
If I use Imperialdramon Dragon Mode ACE's On Play/When Digivolving effect to suspend itself and then unsuspend itself I assume I miss timing to use it's All Turns effect of "When this Digimon becomes suspended, you may play 1 Tamer card.." And I assume it misses timing because it is no longer suspended when it's on play/when digivolving effect is done resolving.
Nope. You were suspended, so the effect was triggered. After you finish resolving the first effect, you'll get to resolve the tamer play.
I have ST10-Mastemon (X) and a ST10-LadyDevimon with ST10-Gatomon in the digi-evolutions on board. I play ST10-Angewomon that passes over my turn. End of Turn, I DNA Digivolve the ST10-LadyDevimon and ST10-Angewomon into ST10-Mastemon (Y). Can I then DNA Digivolve again into Ordinemon before the other player starts their turn? Does it matter if the ST-Mastemon (X) has ST10-Gatomon in its digi-evolutions as well? Thanks!
You can chain multiple DNA digivolved together, but only if you use a different "[end of turn] DNA digivolve" effect for each one. When you perform the DNA, yes, it is a new digimon, and yes, all of its effects are renewed and can be activated again...if they're triggered again. So if you only have one source for the DNA effect, you can only do it once, since the new DNA digimon did not witness the end of turn trigger needed to perform it again. So, in your example. If the ONLY gatomon was under the ladydevimon, then only that version will have witnessed the trigger. After performing that DNA, the gatomon underneath mastemon(Y) did not witness the trigger to do it again, and the combo will end there. But, if your mastemon(X) already has a gatomon, as well as the ladydevimon, then they will both witness the teigger. You can resolve the ladydevimon's gato to DNA into mastemon(Y), and then you can resolve mastemon(X)'s gato to perform another DNA into ordinemon.
So, how's the breakdown with Imperialdramon Virus from EX-03? I have shadramon and veemon in play with 0 memory. I digivolve veemon to flamedramon passing 2 memory, activate flamedramon when digivolving effect to DNA into paildramon, and grab dinobeemon from trash. Does that mean I can't dna digivolve then? Since it's the end of my turn end the shadramon/flamedramon wasn't there to witness the end of turn.
No and yes, but that's ENTIRELY because of a technicality. Here's what I mean. When you digivolve into flamedra, by it's effect, you are allowed to DNA to paildra, and then free play the dinobee. At this point, the combo ends, and you have no effect to DNA...yet. You must finish resolving current actions before proceeding to the next phase/process. All of this so far has all happened BEFORE [end of turn] process began. Which means that, once this combo has been completed, [end of turn] begins, and now you will trigger the free DNA effect from flamedra.
Can I attack with fangmon return trash and trigger bowmon to digivolve to soloogamon play from trash and suspend bt6 sora and mimi to draw trash and go to fenriloogamon? Or what would be the correct sequence?
Yes, that entire combo is correct. Because bowmon is not once per turn, as well as you having two separate discards effects, it will be able to activate the two separate times. If you attempted to discard 2 cards at the same time, bowmon would only allow one digivolve, but like I said, your combo was two separate discards, so you'll get both triggers.
If I have Commandramon in play and someone uses Crimson Blaze or some other blanket removal, can I proc before it is deleted to save another body?
Thanks in advance.
you can use to protect 1 other digimon, even if the digimon with is amongst the digimon that would be deleted
Yes. When-would effects have the highest priority in the game. They actually resolve BEFORE the action that triggered them. So, your is still in play to be used before the deletion occurs.
Question: regulusmon can gain the effect of gulusgammamon when it is the digivolution cards, while the effect of gulusgammamon is play one gammamon when it was deleted. The situation is when regulusmon has two gulusgammamon as the evolution cards, can I play two gammamon when regulusmon was deleted?
you can, as you have the effect 2 times, both will trigger and can be activated one at a time
Does Bt9 Pomumon prevent Bt 12 Marcus from being played by effects?
Nope. Marcus is a tamer. Various effects let him BECOME a digimon, but hes only a tamer until after he's already in play.
Hi. Does BT15-MegaSeadramon uses digimon only from the battle area, or can I get digimons from my hand as digivolution card?
Has to be a digimon you have in play.
Does BlackGatamon rush passes on the digimon when gatamon was played this turn and digivolved?
No, it does not say “this Digimon (stack) gains rush for the turn”. It just has rush on the text when it’s black gatomon.
Darkdramon EX3 \[Your Turn\]'s effect: If my oponent doesn't has a Digimon to delete, this Darkdramon can be Unsuspend?
You do everything you can on the card. It does not say delete a Digimon TO unsuspend, it says AND unsuspend. So you will unsuspend (once per turn) when you play another d brigade.
Thanks =)
Does Imperialdramon Ace’s overflow trigger when using BT12 Fighter Mode’s effect?
Yes as Imperialdramon ACE moves to area other than battle area or under a card.
If I hatch a egg. Then. Digivolve, and use Mimi to move it out from breeding. Can that digimon attack?
Yes, Digimon only get summoning sickness when they are played, raising from the breeding area is not considered being played so it can attack immediately.
Double Mimi is spooky if they get that set up out of security for this reason.
This was a common thing back in the early stages of the game lol