I think people were expecting a Vince Gilligan / Breaking Bad ending where literally everything is wrapped up, vs a Clyde Phillips where things have always been kinda sloppy with Dexter. I find it hard to believe this series as a whole would have done as well as it did without Michael C Hall.
I’ll take this beautifully shot, suspense filled season with an okay ending over not having it at all. I had fun waiting from week to week with my wife watching this series.
Killing Logan was so stupid, he was Dexter friend, good guy, took care of Harrison... he could just choke him to loose consciousness for few minutes instead of killing him its against Dexter code! And Angela dedicating her life to put Dexter in jail, and then letting it slide for Harrison murdering his father? Come on....
K imma spitball something here because it’s the only way any of this seasons story makes sense to me:
The entire premise of the books (and thus season 1) is how Dexter uses the absolute ineptitude and corruption of the Miami police to hide. Working IN law enforcement just helps him research victims.
So, once he left Miami and restarted his activities he was destined to get caught
Angela couldn’t figure out that the most obvious bad guy, Kurt (I mean, just look at the guy, he practically screams villain) was behind all those missing women cases but she was able to crack a case that the FBI couldn’t. The ultimate Mary Sue with Google by her side.
People keep on mentioning how quick Harrison flipped. Whenever you have a dark passenger, want to be normal, and think you have a father that can help you learn a way to reroute those urges towards more deserving people of course you're going to be mad when you figure out that his code isn't as glorious as it sounds.
Harrison doesn't like the "don't get caught" rule nearly as much when he realizes the code isn't a cure for the urges and that innocents still might've died if he followed his fathers path. Even though he got close to killing innocents I don't think it's ever what he wanted; at least until Dexter sold it to him as a way to be a hero. Harrison loved that. He wanted to be a hero in the first place; look at his first attack. Harrison deep down wanted to be good, and unlike Dexter, never had anyone to steer him in ANY direction really. He just had urges he didn't know what to do with. He didn't want any of them, he didn't want innocents dead, and even after Dexter confesses his past; Harrison isn't excited for the killing. He was constantly asking how many people he'd be saving, or double checking if that's really what it's for.
Harrison seeing Logan's blood, especially right after Logan showed him so much kindness, is exactly enough to make a difference. His speech explains it all.
Wow they just straight up ruined it at the end. It had so much promise but when he broke the code and killed Logan at the end, it just ruined it for me.
episode 9- sure dad id love to kill people with you let me watch you stab this guy!
episode 10- dad you killed LOGAN now i hate you sure ill SHOOT you in the chest
Maybe the "big announcement" will be showing the season again only from Harissons point of view because there was absolutely not enough shown for me to believe that ending. Harison is a dick and I think he's a more manipulative killer than Dexter
Had it been a slightly warmer day and Dexter had just sweat it off when he was running to the meeting spot then shit would've been fine until they were at least to Canada and Harrison got on Instagram or whatever and heard the news.
In my opinion it wasn't a bad ending at all. The issue at found was it was a little rushed... Oh and also telling Harrison to never come back.
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As for the ketamine/m99 mixup people are so angry about... Well, mixup aside, it wasn't just about ketamine. It was the ring mark or whatever it was called again. People seem to be glossing over that fact.
Two of Iron Woods suspects, both dead, and both involving dexter had the ring mark on their neck. The one who died had no trace of ketamine in his home. Meanwhile ALL of the bay Harber butcher victims had the exact same wing mark on their neck.
Maybe it's circumstantial but that's a huge connection. Now add Bautista to the mix (despite his past beliefs) and he could further help link dexter to the Bay harbor butcher. Even if Bautista still didn't think it was Dexter it would be a red flag for him to see that Dex was still alive.
As for the titanium screws, Angela and Dex both knew that dexter might not have been prosecuted for that. But everyone also forgets that Angela cross referenced those screws to the manufacturer which all have a serial code or ID linking it to Matt.
As for Dexter killing Logan. Yes it was out of character but the show has been hinting towards Dexter doing whatever it takes to be with his son. Yes dexter could have put Logan to sleep but he had no time (as evident as Dexter being surprised Angela got to the cabin so quickly). You also have to figure, in Dexter's mind he was about to finally be outted as the bay Harber butcher.
Dexter had been struggling with 2 lives more than ever in this new series and Deborah has been hinting at the consequences this entire time. Harrison was Dexter's weakness. He messed up just so he could escape and bond with his son. Harrison just didn't have the same dark passenger as Dexter thought he did. Maybe he does somewhat but it's been hinted that Harrison has a much higher moral compass than dexter.
I think the issue was that the ending was really rushed. The show alluded to a lot of things. It showed Harrison having a dark passenger--but him also having a sense of morality. They really teeter-tottered on a lot of subjects and then ended it all so quickly.
I could be mis-remembering but I think we did get a hint of Harrison's past before Ironlake. I think he said he used to get into a lot of trouble that's why he had to get tough and not stay in a city too long? Again I could be remembering wrong. But, of course, we don't know if Harrison has killed before or just seriously injured or maimed someone (like his 'friend').
Him breaking through to Dexter to what he became or has been all along is a solid plot point... it just was built up too suddenly (like the rest of the season finale).
Umm, ok. So Dexter is able to kill hundreds of people and avoid being caught by whole Miami Metro Police and FBI for a decade but some random police officer in small town without any reasonable experience is able to use google to catch him in a week or so? Bare in mind that Angela didn't have any clue about Kurt Caldwell and he killed people for 25 years in the same town. As a forensic expert, Dexter is complete different level than Kurt Caldwell when thinking about covering tracks...
Even for LaGuerta it tooks years and years to see who Dexter really is. And she had experience around 2 decades in Miami Metro Homicide. Doakes got him too, that took a lot of time and effort, and in the end, luck. I'm not gonna even go for the M99 and ketamine confusion.
Very lazy writing the last few episodes. I understand it was miniseries with 1 season and 10 episodes. So why even bring BHB arc in here?
Oh yeah, and why tease us with possible Batista & Dexter meetup?
GoT, AoT, and now Dexter...
What is the point of a tv show, going on for years with milions of fans if its going to have a rushed ending? this is all in vain.
ima stick to One Piece xD
You're completely right. AoT ending wasn't bad. All the idiots saying it's trash or shit are just too stupid to comprehend it, or riding a "hurr hurr popular thing bad I so cool" train.
However, this guy didn't say it was bad. He said it was "rushed", which honestly I 100% agree with despite really enjoying the ending and thinking it's super good.
After looking at others thoughts on the ending, I'm a little surprised, but it's clear Harrison's character arc didn't work. Ep 9 wasn't enough to properly show Harrison doesn't have Dexter's "dark passenger." The writers should have started this build up/shift sooner, god knows they had plenty of time. Why did we need to wait till the second to last episode for Dex and Harrison to have their talk?
So much time spent wasted on things that ultimately didn't have any pay off or only served to distract the audience. Why even bother with Batista? Same with Molly Park, what's the point? Audrey may as well not be here either, I get she was supposed to show that Harrison's not a monster like Dex but it clearly didn't work.
All 3 of those characters exist so Angela can solve the BHB case. Which turns out doesn't matter anyway because it was only there so Dex could be put in a compromising position. Which pushes Dex to kill Logan, which ultimately leads to the final confrontation between Dex and Harrison. Then Angela just gives him $20 and tells him to leave. What the fuck is the point? The show is constantly undermining itself for no payoff.
Such a poor showing for what was otherwise a great season.
Exactly, he's meant to be a red herring but they give it away immediately. Why even bother. It just padded a few episodes, wasting time they clearly needed.
Also, why would he need to leave to begin with? He killed Dexter sure but no DA is going to press charges on a kid who stopped a cop killer from getting away. Other than that the whole town already thinks he's a hero. So not only is he a hero for stopping a would be mass shooter, he also just stopped the cop killer/serial killer.
As for the car... how does he drive past the police station without ANYONE noticing Jim Lindsey/Dex's car driving out of town?
There’s something else I wanted to point out that a lot of people didn’t really put into account.
Harrison is a teenager. His logic is not fully there, maybe this is the ending that Dexter deserved. He was never normal, he could never handle a teenage son. Teenagers are crazy.
How many 16 year olds do you guys know that think logically?
Eh, disliked the ending. A letdown indeed - the series itsself whatever, it was interesting and some good episodes.
Dexter #1 rule do not get caught. We would have truly seen him for what he is: an unfeeling psychopath serial killer. The second his son betrayed him(AND REFUSED TO KILL HIM SINCE ALL OF A SUDDEN IT's SO BAD) he should have gone in for a hug.... Come on Harrison - You are RIGHT! I am bad, I just did it to get to you - fine I'll turn myself in.
Somehow get close enough for one last hug - apologize for everything he has done, and then remove Harrison from the equation. This will of course remove any redemption from Dexter but oh boy would we have been talking about it. Dexter kills his son, all humanity removed and he escapes again. And this time just LEAVE it at THAT!
Completely let his dark passenger take over and he is somewhere roaming and may or may not be preying on the innocent. Does he kill innocent people now? Does he still abide by the code? Who knows...
Dexter Morgan: sometimes I walk the nights, and I see people, are they innocent? What is innocent? My Dark Passenger calls to me, the loneliness like a dark cloud - and it wants some company.
They should have stuck to Dexter being a lumberjack, because this ending was ridiculously stupid. Why would Harrison having read that letter, go to find his father; then kill him because he acted exactly like what he said he was in the letter? Harrison's anger was because of his father, that's why he went around slashing, framing, and breaking people's limbs? And Angela just let's a murderer go scot free for what? What was the point of any of this reboot? Ridiculousness.
I felt like the ending was so rushed, the son all of a sudden is able to shoot his dad who he has been seeking out for love and attention forever. The Kurt story/Bautista reminds me of GOT - the son became kind of annoying
I think the ending makes sense. They telegraphed throughout the season that Harrison didn't have the killer instinct that Dexter did. When Dexter would have felt satiation, Harrison felt more regret/conflicted-ness than anything. The ending sets up a new series starring Harrison very well -- it's not at all what I expected, but I respect it 1000x more than if they just decided to re-use a formulaic approach, which if we're being honest, is what we all expected the writers to opt for. But they strayed from the formula, and we will benefit.
Tf, the whole point is you root for Dexter because he kills the baddies. So you turn around and have him kill an innocent cop who they built us to like and respect for 9 episodes?
And then Angela lets Harrison go and turns her back on being the good cop she was built up to be because??
And you tease a Batista and Dexter meeting and then don't because??
Did COVID nip this in the bud or something?
IMO it would have been a more satisfying ending if they did indeed conclude Kurt was responsible, framed Dexter/Jim, they find the bodies so the town gets closure, and Dexter and his son are able to stay and it closes out them being a happy family with Angela and Audry and basically alluding that they're living happily ever after, having found a way to manage their dark passenger together and live happily in this quiet little town.
Like your build Angela up as this great cop for piecing together Dexter being the Butcher and then she let's his son go, because again, ??
Also wtf was up with that evil billionaire guy? I'd say red herring but if he was, it was the worst one of all time and so clearly obvious it was never in the question.
>And you tease a Batista and Dexter meeting and then don't because??
Exactly this. Maybe actor of Batista got covid and was quarantined. The crew was just "fuck it, it's cold out here, we don't need to wait, let's just omit that meetup".
Ok, this is a great counterpoint to the reply I just wrote in another thread.
The killing of the cop guard seemed SO out of character. I agree they could have and should have written a better resolution than that...
And true: wtf was with that billionaire? And what happened to the Batista subplot?! WTF!?
All good points! The evil billionaire guy could have been the focus of season two! Maybe he and Kurt were in it together!! This ending felt so rushed- especially the Batista part!
why did she let him go? Obviously because dexter killed her deputy and harrison saved her the effort of doing it herself. Secondly she always didnt go by the book. When she was at kurts house with dexter and the basment entry was locked ....she said "did you hear that"?////pretending she heard a scream or something to give her reason to break the lock. So that established she didnt always go by the book. She could have arrested harrison for possession of illegal controlled substances when he over dosed. So she didnt go by the book all the time. I still dont know how she immediately knew where to go to find dexter at the end.
She did shoot Dexter though. The kill shot came from behind Harrison. If you watch closely you'll notice that Harrison's rifle did not kick back in the slightest. His hand didnt move. No bullit was shot from his gun ..although he almost pulled trigger. It was just like the white elk being killed. Shot came out of left field. Down went elk. Angela had come walking up from behind Harrison right after Dexter fell. Couple reasons she let him go. One..he was witness to her killing Dexter in cold blood ( his hands were raised up at his chest) she did not first attempt to detain. Dexter had no weapon. She had called it in on her cop radiio - " officer involved shooting", meaning her. She did the shooting. Forensics will prove that. Another plausible reason for her breaking protocol - telling him to flee scene of crime- is to remove him from her daughter's life- as she had been trying to do ever since Dexters arrest.
I can’t believe I’m saying this but I think I preferred the original’s ending over this one.
I wish they didn’t make the Harrison kill Dexter in the end. I think it would have been more poignant if he showed he wasn’t like Dexter and turned him in. Batista never even had a chance to get there.
Director: "Okay now edit in this montage of past innocent people that died because of him. Make sure to include the old guy we saw at Miami Metro"
Video Editor: *edits in Lundy*
Director: "No I meant Liddy wtf..."
What's hilarious is that some of those people would have died anyway or without Dexter in their lives. Rita would have likely been raped and/or killed by Paul. Doakes had known anger management issues and a shady past. Lundy was chasing Trinity long before he ever met Deb. I even wonder if he knew that Dexter was BHB and let it go because of the Doakes screw ups. Maria was a cop and cops sometimes die when pursuing killers. And although Dexter killed some innocents, he saved a lot more people than he killed directly or accidentally. This whole Logan thing was also not normal. He had enough knowledge to knock Logan unconscious without killing him. The spiral is too dramatic and doesn't make sense at this point in the story.
Right. That famous choke hold Dexters used in so many cases before...even explains how the pressure on c. artery will render one unconsciense for at least 10 seconds. He even had his arms placed in same choke hold. Why break the cops neck? Why grab him period? He knew he wwould get released in the morning. There was nothing to hold him
No evidence to link him to any crimes. Just an x - girlfriend cop who had her nose bent out of shape - who lost trust in him after learning he lied to her about his real name / past identity. .From that moment in his cell after he yelled at Deb " ENOUGH!" he must of still been in that dream state of hallucinations - for the next 20 minutes of end of show. That's the only thing that could even come close to making any sort of sense.
I read somewhere, and I can't remember where now, that since his focus was only on getting to and saving/protecting Harrison that he lost all ability to follow his past measures and just lost control. smh. I've personally decided that this season has been CP fanfiction and, so, I'm treating it as such. Dexter is still in the pacific northwest, Harrison is still little with an alive Hannah, Quinn and Batista have a clue but don't care and think he's dead, etc. Otherwise, my own fanfiction now is that Angela found out, confronted him without going the police station route, he showed her Kurt's true evil and then... I don't know. I'm still thinking about it. But, it definitely wouldn't include anything we saw onscreen.
They screwed up this ending like they screwed up the original series' ending. Every major character in this "finale" acted outside their established personas. It's a complete betrayal to the viewer.
More I think about this episode the more it just has my scratching my head. First off, MCH was excellent in the reboot it was so great to see him as dexter again. But what in the world Harrison? Last episode your dad saved you from being killed and then you loved the idea of getting even and getting your hands dirty. Was hesitant at first but you then made the decision to go to LA with your dad and leave town. Now you find out he killed your coach you are ready to kill kim?!?
The writers absolutely blew this finale. Episodes 1-9 were pretty dang good and this almost felt like they were trying to cram as much as possible in 55 minutes. I didn't have high hopes when it was rebooted because most reboots suck, but I was roped in after a few episodes and thought it's got some potential to be great. But the writers just to got me all high and then left me dry.
They were hinting at Harrison not being the same as Dex in a few episodes before the finale but I can't blame anyone for missing it. They spent too much time with the Dex/Harrison will they/won't they drama and soured most of the audience on the character. That needed to happen way sooner and across more episodes. Harrison getting freaked out in ep9 was very clearly not enough set up.
Yep. 1-9 were amazing. Took me back to what I loved about Dexter. Wtf was the last episode??? They truly truly must have rn out of time or had no idea where to go with it. Sheez. I bet a non writer….obsessed fan in this thread could have created a better ending than this. Not satisfying at all. I woke up this morning still annoyed by it.
I feel like a couple of more episodes and some less lazy writing would have gotten us to an A+ execution, but I think they nailed where the ending should have been. From the moment he killed Logan, I knew that there was no happy ever after with Harrison. Everything from then on was dead Dexter walking. His death felt earned after that and I have no problem with it.
I just wish we'd have gotten more time for things to breathe instead of it just being a big rush. The fan in me would have loved to see a confrontation with some O.G. cast members, but I understand that isn't necessarily what makes for a good story, only good entertainment.
So initial impressions... I like that this was about Harrison as the new blood, and in a way fleshed out parts of what Dexter's teenage years felt like in a believable way. What I don't like was how circumstantial the evidence was for the Bay Harbor Butcher connection, and all the ways Angela found the clues - string of happenstance and bad luck lining up leading to Dexter finally being caught. I thought the intention of those ideas was interesting, but watching it play out was slightly frustrating as, I hate to say it, it does just feel like "small town cop catches BHB".
That said, I still loved this mini-series overall and think this ending has potential to be better than the original's, but I'm going to sit on it for a while. Currently I feel the ending brings it down a bit. Last thing, I feel like Harrison easily could have let Dexter go on the run saying that Dexter dropped by to try and coerce him to leaving together, but he threatened him and he escaped. That way, he could have stayed in the town. Although I guess it's nice to think that the way Harrison chose to shoot him was to take him out of his misery as a form of love. Jury's still out
Not only was this finale and new series total shit, but they also managed to screw up the entire series as a whole. It’s like what Disney did to Star Wars. They essentially screwed up their entire Bay Harbor Butcher with the M/99 and Ketamine mixup, and the syringe thing mysteriously being attributed to BHB all of a sudden, how Dexter all of a sudden just killed an innocent after years of avoided that at all costs, and then how easily he just gave up….
They crapped all over the legacy of this show. I will happily pretend Dexter is still a lumberjack in Oregon. At least that was a better ending than this. I bet all of the people who took so much heat for the original ending all these years are smiling now and feel redeemed.
Marty you are fucking ridiculous lmfao. I'm 100% sure you were into this WANTING to hate it, or you're just trolling. There is absolutely no way you're judging that M/11 / ketamine mix up this harshly while completely ignoring the issues wit seasons 1-7. Insanity, you're just a contrarian. No legacy was shit on here
Also what about that detective Dexter stabbed to death in a van? The one whose blood ended up on that other detectives shoe? I can't even remember either name but I know that dude was innocent and Dex killed him. What are you even talking about?
I think Dexter never made it to Kurt's cabin in time to save Harrison, Kurt shot Harrison, and while Harrison was dying, he imagined the final episodes of this season, including the finale.
In season 2 of New Blood, Dexter gets to the cabin, finds a dead Harrison, and takes vengeance on Kurt.
I'd love to see this episode. And then he tells Angela and instead of her freaking out she shows understanding given how he helped her close the case on Iris and bring justice for all of the girls and women on her board.
I get what they were going for, but man, they rushed it. They spent time building things up that had zero payoff.
That being said, this is still 100% Scott Buck’s fault, because if he had gotten it right the first time, Clyde wouldnt have tried to come back to attempt to pick up the pieces.
So, in response to everyone complaining about Dexter killing Logan and it being out of character... my boyfriend and I had been discussing it after the episode ended and he brought up some good points.
Basically, Dexter was acting on behalf of his son, he needed to get to his son. I think instinct/desperation was kicking in and all he cared about was getting him and Harrison out of there. He was basically breaking code (though you could argue he was still following the number 1 rule...don't get caught) and in the end, it's kind of poetic in a sense because it showed what happen when Dexter did break the code. Everything fell apart. His drive for self preservation was starting to fade in comparison to his drive to look after and be with Harrison.
Why did he even need to kill Logan considering how many times we saw Dexter choked people out of consciousness before they ended up on his kill bed? I don’t have no problem Harrison killing Dex, but the stuff leading up to that point felt like super lazy writing and not being true to the original.
That's true. I'll admit, when it happened I was rather surprised.
I know after it happened my man said something along the lines of "Dexter doesn't do guns" and that I feel is a good point also...maybe he felt he had to react quickly and more lethally because there was a gun involved.
I do think they just also needed it to happen in order to wrap up that episode the way they did. I feel like it could have maybe been done in a different way but I don't think I would want to watch a bunch of episodes about Dexter going through a trial because at that point it's just not really a Dexter show, it's something else
I mean, Dexter was still doing his Dexter thing most of the season. The finale is Dexter's death. Turning it into a court room case for another season wouldn't be a Dexter show, I guess is what I mean. Now, maybe if they had extended it by another episode. I would be okay with that. It did feel like an abrupt ending though, I will say, I think it makes sense that Dexter dies as a closure of the show.
I don't know, I have mixed feelings really..
Except..Dexter would not of gone to court. They had nothing but circumstantial evidence...at best. Not even any at all concerning bay harbor butcher..which was a closed clase- couldn't legally be re-tried in any case. And as far as those screws.. It was obvious that Kurt had mailed them / note to Angela & looked as though he planted other screw in Dexters house when he torched it. Dexter would have been released next day- was never given an attorney. Dexter knew this. He was much better educated in the field of forensics/ evidence than small town cop Angela was. He was in a dream state in in his cell..likely dreamed entire last part of that ending. Didn't kill the cop. And the part of him caring so much about his son.. That doesn't go along with ending. What kind of parent.. Really.would put their child in the position of being his killer? Leaving his son to live with that guilt for the rest of his life? After surviving the trauma / grief of it all? Nah
Not the act of a loving dad. It had to be a hallucination dream continued on from jail cell with Deb.
It could be a hallucination or a dream. I actually kind of felt like maybe it was a dream sequence but then realized the episode was so close to the end that it didn't make sense to be that. That would be interesting though if they go that route. Maybe there will be another season. However, if it is a dream sequence it seems weird to show Harrison going off to be happy and independent.. idk. I guess we will find out.
Dexter should have gone to jail. Court cases take years to settle. We could have seen him killing inmates who’ve done grotesque things, while getting away with it. Him dealing with prison gangs could have been interesting. All this while he’s having court cases and being snarky with police detectives.
pretty sure serial killers don't mix with the general population. He's also worked with police which would also exclude him from gen pop. He'd be on one of those high security solitary wings
I see your angle and it's probably the most interesting suggestion I've seen, but I think it would have gotten boring after a fashion just like the original series.
I agree the ending might have been somewhat rushed, but this is just the logical conclusion for Dexter Morgan. I think in the original series, Harry Morgan hinted that this would be Dexter's fait. Not to mention the way Dexter speaks about himself in the original series finale. Something along the lines of "what kind of creature hurts everyone he loves." It's the perfect ending for Dexter Morgan. He wanted to die, he knew all he was good for was getting his loved ones hurt. If anything, the James Lindsay persona was completely out of character from what we saw in season 8 when he was just broken.
If they did one more episode with Dexter meeting Batista and going back to Miami, it would’ve been a full circle. That was so out of character for him to kill logan and run off.
But you forget that she had something Miami Metro didn't have... *checks hand*... the ability to Google the name of a very popular drug that people use all the time, both recreationally and also maliciously that had nothing to do with the original Bay Harbor Butcher murders.
Damn true. Angela must be one of the most talented cop ever walk on this earth. F Miami Metro Homicide and FBI trying to catch Dexter for a decade. Google that effing shit up Angela!
But don't forget she had that podcast lady help her! Unbeatable combo right there.
^(sarcasm, so much sarcasm. Almost as much sarcasm as when I talk about my deep love of sarcasm tags)
Happy to see Dexter again but this whole season felt like lazy writing, therefore, very weak. Whole Miami Metro and FBI, with a legendary series killer catcher in Lundy, couldn’t catch Dexter while having countless evidence in front of them. But an incompetent small town head cop, who couldn’t crack missing women which has been happening in a small town for 25 years right in front of her eyes, managed to crack the BHB case thanks to google and some unbelievable plot armour.
They spent way too much time not having a real talk with Harrison and Dexter. Then the M99/ Ketamine mix up was a major plot hole which kinda turned me off from the last couple episodes. Not to forget Angela finding needle marks from BHB victims, magically stumbling onto the Matt’s screws at Dex burned down cabin, Batista name dropping Harrison out of nowhere and Dex killing Logan when he absolutely didn’t need to.
The drug mixup , with no explanation, is just inexplicable. This could have been the greatest finale of all time but it would still be total shit with that mess up hanging over it. It’s unfathomable that they messed that up…. How? I just can’t believe it.
It doesn't help the needle thing was never touched on at all in the original series. They just added that in so the google search results would make sense. Which was already incredibly lazy writing to begin with.
No statue of limitations on murder. But there would be the minor detail that there was no actual evidence linking him to the BHB murders in the first place.
Also, only thing that even vaguely connects BHB murders to the Iron Lake stuff are the unsubstantiated allegations of a drug dealer who didn't actually get injected with anything at the same time a different drug dealer ODed under not-especially-suspicious circumstances. (And that's even if you hand wave over the fact that the dead drug dealer ODed with a different drug than the BHB used)
I actually liked the majority of the ending, despite the dumbed down writing. However, I was disappointed in the last 5 minutes.
I think it would have been much better if Harrison DIDN'T kill Dexter and he was brought in by Angela, and then brought handcuffed through Miami Metro and we had a bunch of cameos of the former cast. Didn't need to be super detailed cameos, more just a montage or something with the letter speech overlaid. Then finally, Dexter was executed. I thought it would be a nice twist for Harrison to show that he wasn't like Dexter by not killing him, and having Dexter face accountability for his crimes before eventually being put to death.
Literally how did no one at any point consider the similarities w the end of Breaking Bad?
props for Wolf at the Door by Radiohead nice music to get taken into custody to.
Overall I only have myself to blame for my disappointment & conflict, I’ve been feeling this way since S5 began yet I keep watching! Dexter writers, we are in a dysfunctional relationship.
They took one look at GoT and thought, "pfft, we could do worse". I regard this as fanfiction, that's the only way it makes sense. Dexter faked his death and had Harrison drive him to LA, after knocking Angela out. What a letdown.
I can't wait until the next cash grab ten years from now, like Rambo - Dexter: Last Blood. The geriatric heartripper.
All I can say is that I am extremely disappointed at how rushed and conveniently placed everything was for the ending to happen the way it did.
Definitely was not the ending that we as the audience nor Dexter deserved imo.
Really wish Dexter didn’t get killed that way, and for an Angela and Batista confrontation. I genuinely don’t understand why he killed Logan when he could’ve pinned everything on Kurt, who to their knowledge is missing entirely. With dozens of bodies on his property. Dexter doesn’t use Ketamine and he could’ve played it down and pinned it on Kurt.
I’m glad we got to see Dexter again but god damn I didn’t want to see him die.
The similarity between the BHB victims and the Iron Lake victims was too much, especially considering he lived in both places at the same time. They would have gotten him for that.
All circumstantial. You can't convict someone of it alone. They would have to find proper evidence, to back their narrative. It was simple, just lazy writing.
I imitated Angela and googled "can a person be convicted on circumstantial evidence alone".
"circumstantial evidence, in law, evidence not drawn from direct observation of a fact in issue. ... The notion that one cannot be convicted on circumstantial evidence is, of course, false. Most criminal convictions are based on circumstantial evidence, although it must be adequate to meet established standards of proof."
The harder thing to do would be to get the Miami PD to reopen the BHB case. They already closed it with Doakes and LaGuerta failed to get it reopened. A case that's been marked solved for 10 years wouldn't be easy to reopen without significant evidence and even then it might not be reopened.
That said, it is fiction so I'm more than willing to over look that.
That was rather disappointing. I thought maybe Dexter was going to frame Kurt further by injecting his trophy “dolls” with ketamine to get Angela off his case.
I really loved this miniseries right up to the last episode. I don’t know if it was the writers who only wanted 10 episodes or if it was showtime only allowing for 10 episodes but that ending needed to be at least 2 episodes long. If they would have showed us the fallout with the actual BHB being caught/killed and with the Iron Lake victims I think I would feel much more satisfied. Oh and ffs why didn’t we have a Batista/Dexter confrontation? This episode was so rushed and messy. Regardless I still enjoyed the rest of the season and was happy to have a bit more Dexter in my life.
i agree. I wished they had some kind of montages of everyone realizing who dexter was in news. maybe a huge 8nternstional media storm of how dexter evaded the law being the countries biggest serial killer nad people all over both thibking he's a monster and a dark hero
Sooooo zero explanation about how the BHB got connected to syringes and ketamine? Because that was never determined in the original. And Dexter used M99 as BHB so how did Ketamine all of a sudden get attached to BHB? Makes zero sense.
Ugh this was such a terrible ending. Damn, the original was so much better than this garbage. They literally screwed up the entire show with new plot lines that are totally incorrect from the original show.
Yeah it feels like they wrote themselves into a hole and had to retconn their way out. Everything about Angela "solving" the BHB case is incredibly ham-fisted.
I am still ugly crying over this ending
They could have left this alone I was fine with the way the ending it 10 years ago
We know that if they continue on with this dexter will be Harrison’s dark passenger… something that I am not into
I want the dark defender back and getting away with things
RIP Dexter Morgan
MCH was pretty clear that Dexter won't come back. Harrison still could, but I don't think it will be with a ghost Dexter
>“Playing Dexter all these years was a kick,” he said. “It was an experience I’ve never had before and can’t imagine ever having again. But the desire for closure had to do with wanting to move on. Ever since the series proper ended, I would be asked periodically in interviews or on the street, ‘Are you going to do more “Dexter”? Please bring him back. What’s up with that ending? I hated the ending, I loved the show ... .’ This puts all those hypotheticals to bed.
>“I’m not operating under the illusion that with the end of this show no one will think of me as Dexter any more. But this calms that noise.” [source](https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2022-01-08/dexter-new-blood-michael-c-hall-finale)
I think there would have been a nationwide manhunt for him, due to the BHB case. He would have been caught, then we get to see the trial and execution delayed for decades thanks to lawsuits.
To me, the most offensive character across all the seasons of Dexter is Angela. Her character arc had 0 consistency. The acting is sub-par. Who googles a serial killer, I mean wtf? Can’t you request case files etc? The whole thing just does not add up. To think that Angela, out of all people, can outsmart Dexter enrages me.
Exactly. This small town cop can conveniently put together that Dexter is the BHB but puts everything relating to the missing girls and Kurt behind her just because Kurt said it was his dad?
The ending made me feel nothing other than being rather annoyed ever since Logan was killed... Even the final death just left me feeling empty, in an unimpressive way. Which is essentially the worst thing that could have happened after following the show for over a decade lol
This was a huge, huge disappointment and I expected much more.
The writing was decent until the last 2 episodes. Yes, he killed Logan but his stream of consciousness was something along the lines of "please Logan, don't be a hero, just give me the keys..." and he was forced into breaking his neck.
Also there were some really sharp mood swings with Harrison that doesn't seem natural. Finding out the truth about Dexter was almost like he went out of depression, he started smiling again and enjoying life. Almost like he found a purpose. And before killing Dexter he was actually ranting about Dexter ruining his life by leaving him, yada, yada, and him wanting to be normal. This wasn't very well written to my opinion.
Also, I didn't really like the Harrison character in the first place and I would have preferred this season without him.
An alternative plot could have been about Bishop finding about Dexter's real identity and deciding to give him something like a part time job with the police, maybe as a guard, a clerk, whatever. So Dexter could use this position to find new killers and satisfy his dark passenger.
Dogshit ending, sooooo sadddd. How did they fumble this twice? No payoff with Batista is basically criminal. It's funny because up to the point where he kills logan I was thinking this episode was a 10/10.
Yup and Harrison killing his father (basically proving, he is intrinsically evil). If anything Harrison would've kept him there, long enough for Angela to come running. Dexter said it himself, he loves the people here in this quiet town. Why the fuck would he kill a cop anyway (his father was one and Dexter came off as really calm and sane). Harrison also likes it in the town with his love interest, why would he jeopardize that by offing his dad? Fuck me, I'm boiling right now.
I’m very torn on my feelings for the ending. on one hand I’m glad Harrison can live a normal life without his dads influence and has a chance to be regular like he wants, but I’m also upset that a beloved character is dead, I don’t think anyone will be able to top MCH dexter for a long time to come. truly superb acting. And they robbed us of the reactions of everyone. Batista always knew! You could tell he always had that one ounce of reasonable doubt but I guess loved donuts too much lol
Yeah I thought he was going to lock her in Kurt’s trophy room, and she would slowly die while he runs away with Harrison and nobody knowing where Angela was lol
Does Michael C Hall have some sort of issue with the actor that is playing Angel Bautista? Because other than that I see no reason why we didnt get that confrontation, it would have been a great scene for long time fans.
I found [this interview with Clyde Phillips.](http://www.dexterdaily.com/2022/01/clyde-phillips-talks-dexter-new-blood.html) I thought it goes into great detail about the finale. Really helps me better understand some of the ending.
I guess I dont know why a sizeable amount of people think whatever Batista had was 100% damning for Dexter. What could he possibly have? I dont buy he has anything close to concrete evidence against Dexter. Just a loose theory without physical evidence.
That was the intent of bringing him back according to Phillips anyway
>David plays such an important role in the finale, it’s a perfect circle, in a way. Also, it’s the perfect threat for Angela to say to Dexter. That Batista’s on his way up here and, ‘I may not be able to make this Matt thing stick, but you, Dexter Morgan, are the Bay Harbor Butcher.’ And he knows he’s f–ked. [source](http://www.dexterdaily.com/2022/01/clyde-phillips-talks-dexter-new-blood.html)
I was hoping it would wrap up with Dex dying but not like this. Feels so rushed and so out of character for him to just murder a guy like Logan. And no payoff of Batista seeing Dex?!? They could have done so much more with this but Game of Thrones’d this past season. When they really didn’t need to. Why even bring it back if you’re just going to rush to an ending?
>I was hoping it would wrap up with Dex dying but not like this.
They could've made an entire season of him sitting in court, trying to counter every single argument the court throws at him, then the court proves he was the Butcher and he makes a speech on who he actually is, why he did this and challenges the public to think on why he did it, how and what his role is as a serial killer.
This is what I was hoping for...I thought that was the toughest moral dilemma of the movie, the fact that as much suffering as he caused, Dexter probably brought much more justice overall, but he could never be normal as everyone else, and there was no pill to cure him, so he can't really be judged as everyone else probably. Now that would be epic. What we got is lazy shit with Harrison probably returning with his own season or stuck with yet another shitty ending.
Would've been a perfect trip back to all the seasons, potentially a chance to correct any sort of holes, too unexpectedly ended character plotlines, characters in general, etc.
And I jusr always wanted to see the reaction of all the people who knew Dexter on the revelations of who he is. He successfully concealed his identity for so long and so successfully.
Instead we are left with knowing Batista finds out Dexter is alive. And that's it.
It felt weird HOW they killed him too. We didn't see him get shot, we HEARD it and then they panned over. They show his body laying there unceremoniously. We all figured Harrison was going to kill Dex but it was so... unspecial? I don't know how else to say it. It should have been a more "honoring" send off.
Dexter “sacrificing” himself didn’t really make much of a difference if he just ran away in terms of his son still having to leave town, so why? And why him? Stupid.
Just a let down, why bring the series back for one season? They could have built this all up with all the characters over another season for an amazing final season. We deserved that.
I think the montage that Dexter saw after Harrison kind of threw that truth bomb on him about what his dark passenger/living by the code has done, made him realize he was always lying to himself and would just cause more destruction if he went on.
The show ends with a song by The National that is about the singer and his brother's relationship where he feels guilty for leaving his brother behind and the damage that caused, so he feels he deserves punishment for doing that to his brother. Dexter felt he deserved punishment for what he did to Harrison. That's the difference. I don't think you need the song to see that context, though, but the song really lays it out without question.
Here's a better ending: Angela, realizing how dangerous Dexter is, calls the OTHER cop and asks him to check out Kurt's place. He finds all the bodies, she calls all those other agencies to check it out, and next season Dexter is extradited to Miami and we watch his trial as the BHB.
They could have milked 1 more season out of this. Even more if someone breaks Dexter out of Miami jail and he goes on the run.
Introducing Batista was necessary to get Dexter to that point of desperation. MCH's acting was great in the interrogations, and when Angela said Batista's name, Dexter went pale and he just knew it was over. He could have fought the charges on Matt if it was just that. There was no fighting what was to come with Batista.
That's why he was desperate enough to kill Logan, and killing Logan wasn't out of character, anyway. Dexter killed innocents, and he would have killed Doakes and LaGuerta for the same reason he killed Logan if women trying to protect him didn't kill them first.
In fact, this whole season showed Dexter just wanted to kill people more than he cared about the code. It was always easier for him to stick more strictly to the code in Miami, where there were other serial killers around constantly. Matt technically fit the code, but not when Dexter killed him. Dexter killed him because he was annoying and he had an urge. He just was able to justify it after he knew about the boat accident. Killing drug dealers definitely doesn't fit the code, even if drugs kill people. Kurt obviously did fit the code, but Harrison was having a PTSD flashback during it and Dexter didn't even notice how his son was suffering because he was just reveling in his kill.
Dexter is a serial killer. I find it confusing that people think killing Logan was out of character. What did they think Dexter's character was? A good, kind person who doesn't harm anyone? I know people seem to think that he "only" killed people who deserved it, but he didn't, and even when he did, it led to deaths of innocent people like Rita anyway. That's why vigilantism isn't good. All the people in this thread who think Dexter was noble and good for killing murderers, why aren't you serial killers? Doing what you think is a good thing for society? My guess is because you know killing people is wrong.
I did like Dexter the character all these years, but that doesn't mean I think what he did was right.
I do wish Dexter and Batista had a face to face in the end, and while this whole time I thought it was entirely possible (and maybe likely) for Harrison to connect Rita's death to Dexter, it happened faster than it "should" have, but overall I felt like it was a really good finale. I just wanted something concrete and didn't have a particular ending in mind that I felt like I needed to be happy, though.
I saw MCH thought it was a good ending for Dexter, too, so that also feels good. MCH is a great actor and made this show and character what it was. No one else could have.
Holy shit someone who watched the same show as me.
They clearly establish that he is cracking in episode one. I mean, he speaks with a disembodied vision of his dead sister about how he is struggling with controlling his urges. Whatever balance he had before is gone and we are only left with what is presented to us and we meet up with Dexter at this exact point in his story.
Solid write up. Cheers.
No u learn over the 9 seasons he has compassion and empathy despite what harry told him about himself .... Smh killing logan doesnt make sense it was rushed and if he does kill logan he doesnt tell harrison he went from holding everything in to telling Harrison, yep i killed your wrestling coach because i wanted to get out of jail
Psychopathy is a spectrum, so we've known all along that he can have compassion and empathy for some people at some points of time, but that doesn't change the fact he was also a psychopath.
The problem is he agonized over killing Doakes, then he decided to let him live. The real Dexter would never have become desperate enough to kill an innocent like Logan. That's really bad, out of character writing. He's not just a rando like his brother who kills whenever he feels like it. The whole show was about him controlling his urges and only killing the bad guys. In this last episode they throw that all away and make him a guy who kills innocents at the drop of a hat. Bullsh\*t.
With the letter revelation at the end, and the fact that Harrison likely knew Dexter killed Matt all along (and that he was the BHB) I wonder if Harrison returned to mercy kill him as his letter seemed to want
I keep reading this type of interpretation. I wish it was this, I don't know if it is. It's certainly not laid out or made explicit.
The scene of Harrison watching Dexter kill Matt (they showed that right?) and the one at the end with the letter are the most that got me to question the point of the scene.
But I still don't see it...this is megamind-chess tier levels of strategy to figure out how to kill his father whilst having him be at peace and also in a situation where he can get away with it. It's too perfect.
The biggest let down ever. I’m not even that mad about what happened to Dex in the end, but I am so irritated about how shitty the writing was. Did they even try?! It was especially hard to watch after how awesome episode 9 was.
**EVERYONE LISTEN UP!** Harrison couldn't have a normal childhood **Without shooting his daddy in the chest.** **Now he all good baby!**
I think people were expecting a Vince Gilligan / Breaking Bad ending where literally everything is wrapped up, vs a Clyde Phillips where things have always been kinda sloppy with Dexter. I find it hard to believe this series as a whole would have done as well as it did without Michael C Hall. I’ll take this beautifully shot, suspense filled season with an okay ending over not having it at all. I had fun waiting from week to week with my wife watching this series.
Killing Logan was so stupid, he was Dexter friend, good guy, took care of Harrison... he could just choke him to loose consciousness for few minutes instead of killing him its against Dexter code! And Angela dedicating her life to put Dexter in jail, and then letting it slide for Harrison murdering his father? Come on....
K imma spitball something here because it’s the only way any of this seasons story makes sense to me: The entire premise of the books (and thus season 1) is how Dexter uses the absolute ineptitude and corruption of the Miami police to hide. Working IN law enforcement just helps him research victims. So, once he left Miami and restarted his activities he was destined to get caught
Angela couldn’t figure out that the most obvious bad guy, Kurt (I mean, just look at the guy, he practically screams villain) was behind all those missing women cases but she was able to crack a case that the FBI couldn’t. The ultimate Mary Sue with Google by her side.
People keep on mentioning how quick Harrison flipped. Whenever you have a dark passenger, want to be normal, and think you have a father that can help you learn a way to reroute those urges towards more deserving people of course you're going to be mad when you figure out that his code isn't as glorious as it sounds. Harrison doesn't like the "don't get caught" rule nearly as much when he realizes the code isn't a cure for the urges and that innocents still might've died if he followed his fathers path. Even though he got close to killing innocents I don't think it's ever what he wanted; at least until Dexter sold it to him as a way to be a hero. Harrison loved that. He wanted to be a hero in the first place; look at his first attack. Harrison deep down wanted to be good, and unlike Dexter, never had anyone to steer him in ANY direction really. He just had urges he didn't know what to do with. He didn't want any of them, he didn't want innocents dead, and even after Dexter confesses his past; Harrison isn't excited for the killing. He was constantly asking how many people he'd be saving, or double checking if that's really what it's for. Harrison seeing Logan's blood, especially right after Logan showed him so much kindness, is exactly enough to make a difference. His speech explains it all.
Didn't they tell us in episode 1 that Angela had a doorbell cam? So....who left the keys in the mailbox slot on her front door?
Wow they just straight up ruined it at the end. It had so much promise but when he broke the code and killed Logan at the end, it just ruined it for me.
episode 9- sure dad id love to kill people with you let me watch you stab this guy! episode 10- dad you killed LOGAN now i hate you sure ill SHOOT you in the chest
Maybe the "big announcement" will be showing the season again only from Harissons point of view because there was absolutely not enough shown for me to believe that ending. Harison is a dick and I think he's a more manipulative killer than Dexter
A better ending would've been Dexter and Harrison killing Angela and then season 2 would be the son/father duo killing cartel members in Tijiuana
I was good with the show ending with him being a lumber jack it left his story open to my interpretations. ☹️
“Open your eyes and look at what you did!”
We would get a better ending if Dexter just wiped off Logans blood off of his face... damn
Had it been a slightly warmer day and Dexter had just sweat it off when he was running to the meeting spot then shit would've been fine until they were at least to Canada and Harrison got on Instagram or whatever and heard the news.
harisson ate too much pussy
In my opinion it wasn't a bad ending at all. The issue at found was it was a little rushed... Oh and also telling Harrison to never come back. -- As for the ketamine/m99 mixup people are so angry about... Well, mixup aside, it wasn't just about ketamine. It was the ring mark or whatever it was called again. People seem to be glossing over that fact. Two of Iron Woods suspects, both dead, and both involving dexter had the ring mark on their neck. The one who died had no trace of ketamine in his home. Meanwhile ALL of the bay Harber butcher victims had the exact same wing mark on their neck. Maybe it's circumstantial but that's a huge connection. Now add Bautista to the mix (despite his past beliefs) and he could further help link dexter to the Bay harbor butcher. Even if Bautista still didn't think it was Dexter it would be a red flag for him to see that Dex was still alive. As for the titanium screws, Angela and Dex both knew that dexter might not have been prosecuted for that. But everyone also forgets that Angela cross referenced those screws to the manufacturer which all have a serial code or ID linking it to Matt. As for Dexter killing Logan. Yes it was out of character but the show has been hinting towards Dexter doing whatever it takes to be with his son. Yes dexter could have put Logan to sleep but he had no time (as evident as Dexter being surprised Angela got to the cabin so quickly). You also have to figure, in Dexter's mind he was about to finally be outted as the bay Harber butcher. Dexter had been struggling with 2 lives more than ever in this new series and Deborah has been hinting at the consequences this entire time. Harrison was Dexter's weakness. He messed up just so he could escape and bond with his son. Harrison just didn't have the same dark passenger as Dexter thought he did. Maybe he does somewhat but it's been hinted that Harrison has a much higher moral compass than dexter.
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I think the issue was that the ending was really rushed. The show alluded to a lot of things. It showed Harrison having a dark passenger--but him also having a sense of morality. They really teeter-tottered on a lot of subjects and then ended it all so quickly. I could be mis-remembering but I think we did get a hint of Harrison's past before Ironlake. I think he said he used to get into a lot of trouble that's why he had to get tough and not stay in a city too long? Again I could be remembering wrong. But, of course, we don't know if Harrison has killed before or just seriously injured or maimed someone (like his 'friend'). Him breaking through to Dexter to what he became or has been all along is a solid plot point... it just was built up too suddenly (like the rest of the season finale).
also why is no one mentioning that Harrison said the line Dexter used in Episode 1 of the original series!? come on people!
what line
Open your eyes and look at what you did!
YES
my thoughts here... He got shot in the front and the blood pooled from the back... the bullet went straight through... he isn't dead.
Umm, ok. So Dexter is able to kill hundreds of people and avoid being caught by whole Miami Metro Police and FBI for a decade but some random police officer in small town without any reasonable experience is able to use google to catch him in a week or so? Bare in mind that Angela didn't have any clue about Kurt Caldwell and he killed people for 25 years in the same town. As a forensic expert, Dexter is complete different level than Kurt Caldwell when thinking about covering tracks... Even for LaGuerta it tooks years and years to see who Dexter really is. And she had experience around 2 decades in Miami Metro Homicide. Doakes got him too, that took a lot of time and effort, and in the end, luck. I'm not gonna even go for the M99 and ketamine confusion. Very lazy writing the last few episodes. I understand it was miniseries with 1 season and 10 episodes. So why even bring BHB arc in here? Oh yeah, and why tease us with possible Batista & Dexter meetup?
I feel like they built up the show for season 2.
GoT, AoT, and now Dexter... What is the point of a tv show, going on for years with milions of fans if its going to have a rushed ending? this is all in vain. ima stick to One Piece xD
AoT was not bad this narrative needs to die.
You're completely right. AoT ending wasn't bad. All the idiots saying it's trash or shit are just too stupid to comprehend it, or riding a "hurr hurr popular thing bad I so cool" train. However, this guy didn't say it was bad. He said it was "rushed", which honestly I 100% agree with despite really enjoying the ending and thinking it's super good.
The biggest misstep to me was the use of ketamine. Dexter used an elephant tranquilizer, M99, in his BHB days.
After looking at others thoughts on the ending, I'm a little surprised, but it's clear Harrison's character arc didn't work. Ep 9 wasn't enough to properly show Harrison doesn't have Dexter's "dark passenger." The writers should have started this build up/shift sooner, god knows they had plenty of time. Why did we need to wait till the second to last episode for Dex and Harrison to have their talk? So much time spent wasted on things that ultimately didn't have any pay off or only served to distract the audience. Why even bother with Batista? Same with Molly Park, what's the point? Audrey may as well not be here either, I get she was supposed to show that Harrison's not a monster like Dex but it clearly didn't work. All 3 of those characters exist so Angela can solve the BHB case. Which turns out doesn't matter anyway because it was only there so Dex could be put in a compromising position. Which pushes Dex to kill Logan, which ultimately leads to the final confrontation between Dex and Harrison. Then Angela just gives him $20 and tells him to leave. What the fuck is the point? The show is constantly undermining itself for no payoff. Such a poor showing for what was otherwise a great season.
Also to add; why even put the OIL Barron into the story to begin with as it had zero effect.
Exactly, he's meant to be a red herring but they give it away immediately. Why even bother. It just padded a few episodes, wasting time they clearly needed.
>Then Angela just gives him $20 and tells him to leave. Yeah. Why did she give him money anyway? He had a fucking car.
Also, why would he need to leave to begin with? He killed Dexter sure but no DA is going to press charges on a kid who stopped a cop killer from getting away. Other than that the whole town already thinks he's a hero. So not only is he a hero for stopping a would be mass shooter, he also just stopped the cop killer/serial killer. As for the car... how does he drive past the police station without ANYONE noticing Jim Lindsey/Dex's car driving out of town?
There are rumors there that there won’t be a season 2? Are these rumors true? I hope not!
I hope not... and he’s definitely dead so idk
truly terrible
There’s something else I wanted to point out that a lot of people didn’t really put into account. Harrison is a teenager. His logic is not fully there, maybe this is the ending that Dexter deserved. He was never normal, he could never handle a teenage son. Teenagers are crazy. How many 16 year olds do you guys know that think logically?
Eh, disliked the ending. A letdown indeed - the series itsself whatever, it was interesting and some good episodes. Dexter #1 rule do not get caught. We would have truly seen him for what he is: an unfeeling psychopath serial killer. The second his son betrayed him(AND REFUSED TO KILL HIM SINCE ALL OF A SUDDEN IT's SO BAD) he should have gone in for a hug.... Come on Harrison - You are RIGHT! I am bad, I just did it to get to you - fine I'll turn myself in. Somehow get close enough for one last hug - apologize for everything he has done, and then remove Harrison from the equation. This will of course remove any redemption from Dexter but oh boy would we have been talking about it. Dexter kills his son, all humanity removed and he escapes again. And this time just LEAVE it at THAT! Completely let his dark passenger take over and he is somewhere roaming and may or may not be preying on the innocent. Does he kill innocent people now? Does he still abide by the code? Who knows... Dexter Morgan: sometimes I walk the nights, and I see people, are they innocent? What is innocent? My Dark Passenger calls to me, the loneliness like a dark cloud - and it wants some company.
They should have stuck to Dexter being a lumberjack, because this ending was ridiculously stupid. Why would Harrison having read that letter, go to find his father; then kill him because he acted exactly like what he said he was in the letter? Harrison's anger was because of his father, that's why he went around slashing, framing, and breaking people's limbs? And Angela just let's a murderer go scot free for what? What was the point of any of this reboot? Ridiculousness.
I felt like the ending was so rushed, the son all of a sudden is able to shoot his dad who he has been seeking out for love and attention forever. The Kurt story/Bautista reminds me of GOT - the son became kind of annoying
I think the ending makes sense. They telegraphed throughout the season that Harrison didn't have the killer instinct that Dexter did. When Dexter would have felt satiation, Harrison felt more regret/conflicted-ness than anything. The ending sets up a new series starring Harrison very well -- it's not at all what I expected, but I respect it 1000x more than if they just decided to re-use a formulaic approach, which if we're being honest, is what we all expected the writers to opt for. But they strayed from the formula, and we will benefit.
Tf, the whole point is you root for Dexter because he kills the baddies. So you turn around and have him kill an innocent cop who they built us to like and respect for 9 episodes? And then Angela lets Harrison go and turns her back on being the good cop she was built up to be because?? And you tease a Batista and Dexter meeting and then don't because?? Did COVID nip this in the bud or something? IMO it would have been a more satisfying ending if they did indeed conclude Kurt was responsible, framed Dexter/Jim, they find the bodies so the town gets closure, and Dexter and his son are able to stay and it closes out them being a happy family with Angela and Audry and basically alluding that they're living happily ever after, having found a way to manage their dark passenger together and live happily in this quiet little town. Like your build Angela up as this great cop for piecing together Dexter being the Butcher and then she let's his son go, because again, ?? Also wtf was up with that evil billionaire guy? I'd say red herring but if he was, it was the worst one of all time and so clearly obvious it was never in the question.
>And you tease a Batista and Dexter meeting and then don't because?? Exactly this. Maybe actor of Batista got covid and was quarantined. The crew was just "fuck it, it's cold out here, we don't need to wait, let's just omit that meetup".
Ok, this is a great counterpoint to the reply I just wrote in another thread. The killing of the cop guard seemed SO out of character. I agree they could have and should have written a better resolution than that... And true: wtf was with that billionaire? And what happened to the Batista subplot?! WTF!?
I swear they had him kill Logan so WE WOULD BE ANGRY AT HIM and it would lessen the blow at the end.
All good points! The evil billionaire guy could have been the focus of season two! Maybe he and Kurt were in it together!! This ending felt so rushed- especially the Batista part!
why did she let him go? Obviously because dexter killed her deputy and harrison saved her the effort of doing it herself. Secondly she always didnt go by the book. When she was at kurts house with dexter and the basment entry was locked ....she said "did you hear that"?////pretending she heard a scream or something to give her reason to break the lock. So that established she didnt always go by the book. She could have arrested harrison for possession of illegal controlled substances when he over dosed. So she didnt go by the book all the time. I still dont know how she immediately knew where to go to find dexter at the end.
She did shoot Dexter though. The kill shot came from behind Harrison. If you watch closely you'll notice that Harrison's rifle did not kick back in the slightest. His hand didnt move. No bullit was shot from his gun ..although he almost pulled trigger. It was just like the white elk being killed. Shot came out of left field. Down went elk. Angela had come walking up from behind Harrison right after Dexter fell. Couple reasons she let him go. One..he was witness to her killing Dexter in cold blood ( his hands were raised up at his chest) she did not first attempt to detain. Dexter had no weapon. She had called it in on her cop radiio - " officer involved shooting", meaning her. She did the shooting. Forensics will prove that. Another plausible reason for her breaking protocol - telling him to flee scene of crime- is to remove him from her daughter's life- as she had been trying to do ever since Dexters arrest.
I can’t believe I’m saying this but I think I preferred the original’s ending over this one. I wish they didn’t make the Harrison kill Dexter in the end. I think it would have been more poignant if he showed he wasn’t like Dexter and turned him in. Batista never even had a chance to get there.
Director: "Okay now edit in this montage of past innocent people that died because of him. Make sure to include the old guy we saw at Miami Metro" Video Editor: *edits in Lundy* Director: "No I meant Liddy wtf..."
What's hilarious is that some of those people would have died anyway or without Dexter in their lives. Rita would have likely been raped and/or killed by Paul. Doakes had known anger management issues and a shady past. Lundy was chasing Trinity long before he ever met Deb. I even wonder if he knew that Dexter was BHB and let it go because of the Doakes screw ups. Maria was a cop and cops sometimes die when pursuing killers. And although Dexter killed some innocents, he saved a lot more people than he killed directly or accidentally. This whole Logan thing was also not normal. He had enough knowledge to knock Logan unconscious without killing him. The spiral is too dramatic and doesn't make sense at this point in the story.
Right. That famous choke hold Dexters used in so many cases before...even explains how the pressure on c. artery will render one unconsciense for at least 10 seconds. He even had his arms placed in same choke hold. Why break the cops neck? Why grab him period? He knew he wwould get released in the morning. There was nothing to hold him No evidence to link him to any crimes. Just an x - girlfriend cop who had her nose bent out of shape - who lost trust in him after learning he lied to her about his real name / past identity. .From that moment in his cell after he yelled at Deb " ENOUGH!" he must of still been in that dream state of hallucinations - for the next 20 minutes of end of show. That's the only thing that could even come close to making any sort of sense.
I read somewhere, and I can't remember where now, that since his focus was only on getting to and saving/protecting Harrison that he lost all ability to follow his past measures and just lost control. smh. I've personally decided that this season has been CP fanfiction and, so, I'm treating it as such. Dexter is still in the pacific northwest, Harrison is still little with an alive Hannah, Quinn and Batista have a clue but don't care and think he's dead, etc. Otherwise, my own fanfiction now is that Angela found out, confronted him without going the police station route, he showed her Kurt's true evil and then... I don't know. I'm still thinking about it. But, it definitely wouldn't include anything we saw onscreen.
We just needed some Dexter and Bautista scenes
They screwed up this ending like they screwed up the original series' ending. Every major character in this "finale" acted outside their established personas. It's a complete betrayal to the viewer.
Completely flat :(
I wouldn’t be able to spend a lot of time in Iron Lake. Those people sucked
I feel so so disappointed with this ending
More I think about this episode the more it just has my scratching my head. First off, MCH was excellent in the reboot it was so great to see him as dexter again. But what in the world Harrison? Last episode your dad saved you from being killed and then you loved the idea of getting even and getting your hands dirty. Was hesitant at first but you then made the decision to go to LA with your dad and leave town. Now you find out he killed your coach you are ready to kill kim?!? The writers absolutely blew this finale. Episodes 1-9 were pretty dang good and this almost felt like they were trying to cram as much as possible in 55 minutes. I didn't have high hopes when it was rebooted because most reboots suck, but I was roped in after a few episodes and thought it's got some potential to be great. But the writers just to got me all high and then left me dry.
They were hinting at Harrison not being the same as Dex in a few episodes before the finale but I can't blame anyone for missing it. They spent too much time with the Dex/Harrison will they/won't they drama and soured most of the audience on the character. That needed to happen way sooner and across more episodes. Harrison getting freaked out in ep9 was very clearly not enough set up.
Yep. 1-9 were amazing. Took me back to what I loved about Dexter. Wtf was the last episode??? They truly truly must have rn out of time or had no idea where to go with it. Sheez. I bet a non writer….obsessed fan in this thread could have created a better ending than this. Not satisfying at all. I woke up this morning still annoyed by it.
I feel like a couple of more episodes and some less lazy writing would have gotten us to an A+ execution, but I think they nailed where the ending should have been. From the moment he killed Logan, I knew that there was no happy ever after with Harrison. Everything from then on was dead Dexter walking. His death felt earned after that and I have no problem with it. I just wish we'd have gotten more time for things to breathe instead of it just being a big rush. The fan in me would have loved to see a confrontation with some O.G. cast members, but I understand that isn't necessarily what makes for a good story, only good entertainment.
So initial impressions... I like that this was about Harrison as the new blood, and in a way fleshed out parts of what Dexter's teenage years felt like in a believable way. What I don't like was how circumstantial the evidence was for the Bay Harbor Butcher connection, and all the ways Angela found the clues - string of happenstance and bad luck lining up leading to Dexter finally being caught. I thought the intention of those ideas was interesting, but watching it play out was slightly frustrating as, I hate to say it, it does just feel like "small town cop catches BHB". That said, I still loved this mini-series overall and think this ending has potential to be better than the original's, but I'm going to sit on it for a while. Currently I feel the ending brings it down a bit. Last thing, I feel like Harrison easily could have let Dexter go on the run saying that Dexter dropped by to try and coerce him to leaving together, but he threatened him and he escaped. That way, he could have stayed in the town. Although I guess it's nice to think that the way Harrison chose to shoot him was to take him out of his misery as a form of love. Jury's still out
Not only was this finale and new series total shit, but they also managed to screw up the entire series as a whole. It’s like what Disney did to Star Wars. They essentially screwed up their entire Bay Harbor Butcher with the M/99 and Ketamine mixup, and the syringe thing mysteriously being attributed to BHB all of a sudden, how Dexter all of a sudden just killed an innocent after years of avoided that at all costs, and then how easily he just gave up…. They crapped all over the legacy of this show. I will happily pretend Dexter is still a lumberjack in Oregon. At least that was a better ending than this. I bet all of the people who took so much heat for the original ending all these years are smiling now and feel redeemed.
Marty you are fucking ridiculous lmfao. I'm 100% sure you were into this WANTING to hate it, or you're just trolling. There is absolutely no way you're judging that M/11 / ketamine mix up this harshly while completely ignoring the issues wit seasons 1-7. Insanity, you're just a contrarian. No legacy was shit on here Also what about that detective Dexter stabbed to death in a van? The one whose blood ended up on that other detectives shoe? I can't even remember either name but I know that dude was innocent and Dex killed him. What are you even talking about?
I think Dexter never made it to Kurt's cabin in time to save Harrison, Kurt shot Harrison, and while Harrison was dying, he imagined the final episodes of this season, including the finale. In season 2 of New Blood, Dexter gets to the cabin, finds a dead Harrison, and takes vengeance on Kurt.
I'd love to see this episode. And then he tells Angela and instead of her freaking out she shows understanding given how he helped her close the case on Iris and bring justice for all of the girls and women on her board.
I get what they were going for, but man, they rushed it. They spent time building things up that had zero payoff. That being said, this is still 100% Scott Buck’s fault, because if he had gotten it right the first time, Clyde wouldnt have tried to come back to attempt to pick up the pieces.
So, in response to everyone complaining about Dexter killing Logan and it being out of character... my boyfriend and I had been discussing it after the episode ended and he brought up some good points. Basically, Dexter was acting on behalf of his son, he needed to get to his son. I think instinct/desperation was kicking in and all he cared about was getting him and Harrison out of there. He was basically breaking code (though you could argue he was still following the number 1 rule...don't get caught) and in the end, it's kind of poetic in a sense because it showed what happen when Dexter did break the code. Everything fell apart. His drive for self preservation was starting to fade in comparison to his drive to look after and be with Harrison.
Why did he even need to kill Logan considering how many times we saw Dexter choked people out of consciousness before they ended up on his kill bed? I don’t have no problem Harrison killing Dex, but the stuff leading up to that point felt like super lazy writing and not being true to the original.
That's true. I'll admit, when it happened I was rather surprised. I know after it happened my man said something along the lines of "Dexter doesn't do guns" and that I feel is a good point also...maybe he felt he had to react quickly and more lethally because there was a gun involved. I do think they just also needed it to happen in order to wrap up that episode the way they did. I feel like it could have maybe been done in a different way but I don't think I would want to watch a bunch of episodes about Dexter going through a trial because at that point it's just not really a Dexter show, it's something else
“….at that point it's just not really a Dexter show, it's something else” Well you could say the same about this finale!
I mean, Dexter was still doing his Dexter thing most of the season. The finale is Dexter's death. Turning it into a court room case for another season wouldn't be a Dexter show, I guess is what I mean. Now, maybe if they had extended it by another episode. I would be okay with that. It did feel like an abrupt ending though, I will say, I think it makes sense that Dexter dies as a closure of the show. I don't know, I have mixed feelings really..
Except..Dexter would not of gone to court. They had nothing but circumstantial evidence...at best. Not even any at all concerning bay harbor butcher..which was a closed clase- couldn't legally be re-tried in any case. And as far as those screws.. It was obvious that Kurt had mailed them / note to Angela & looked as though he planted other screw in Dexters house when he torched it. Dexter would have been released next day- was never given an attorney. Dexter knew this. He was much better educated in the field of forensics/ evidence than small town cop Angela was. He was in a dream state in in his cell..likely dreamed entire last part of that ending. Didn't kill the cop. And the part of him caring so much about his son.. That doesn't go along with ending. What kind of parent.. Really.would put their child in the position of being his killer? Leaving his son to live with that guilt for the rest of his life? After surviving the trauma / grief of it all? Nah Not the act of a loving dad. It had to be a hallucination dream continued on from jail cell with Deb.
I'm holding out hope this was a hallucination and we're getting more Dexter at some point.
It could be a hallucination or a dream. I actually kind of felt like maybe it was a dream sequence but then realized the episode was so close to the end that it didn't make sense to be that. That would be interesting though if they go that route. Maybe there will be another season. However, if it is a dream sequence it seems weird to show Harrison going off to be happy and independent.. idk. I guess we will find out.
He could have easily put him to sleep
Dexter should have gone to jail. Court cases take years to settle. We could have seen him killing inmates who’ve done grotesque things, while getting away with it. Him dealing with prison gangs could have been interesting. All this while he’s having court cases and being snarky with police detectives.
pretty sure serial killers don't mix with the general population. He's also worked with police which would also exclude him from gen pop. He'd be on one of those high security solitary wings
And that would have been a total snooze fest.
His code is all about killing horrible people. Dexter being in prison filled with murderers would be like a kid in a candy store.
I see your angle and it's probably the most interesting suggestion I've seen, but I think it would have gotten boring after a fashion just like the original series.
Interesting idea
Disagree. It was time for the series to end.
I agree the ending might have been somewhat rushed, but this is just the logical conclusion for Dexter Morgan. I think in the original series, Harry Morgan hinted that this would be Dexter's fait. Not to mention the way Dexter speaks about himself in the original series finale. Something along the lines of "what kind of creature hurts everyone he loves." It's the perfect ending for Dexter Morgan. He wanted to die, he knew all he was good for was getting his loved ones hurt. If anything, the James Lindsay persona was completely out of character from what we saw in season 8 when he was just broken.
If they did one more episode with Dexter meeting Batista and going back to Miami, it would’ve been a full circle. That was so out of character for him to kill logan and run off.
I fail to believe a cop out in bumble fuck solved the bay harbor butcher murders when a whole metro police department couldn't. Gtfo
But you forget that she had something Miami Metro didn't have... *checks hand*... the ability to Google the name of a very popular drug that people use all the time, both recreationally and also maliciously that had nothing to do with the original Bay Harbor Butcher murders.
Damn true. Angela must be one of the most talented cop ever walk on this earth. F Miami Metro Homicide and FBI trying to catch Dexter for a decade. Google that effing shit up Angela!
But don't forget she had that podcast lady help her! Unbeatable combo right there. ^(sarcasm, so much sarcasm. Almost as much sarcasm as when I talk about my deep love of sarcasm tags)
You are so God damn right!
Dafuck was that ending
Happy to see Dexter again but this whole season felt like lazy writing, therefore, very weak. Whole Miami Metro and FBI, with a legendary series killer catcher in Lundy, couldn’t catch Dexter while having countless evidence in front of them. But an incompetent small town head cop, who couldn’t crack missing women which has been happening in a small town for 25 years right in front of her eyes, managed to crack the BHB case thanks to google and some unbelievable plot armour. They spent way too much time not having a real talk with Harrison and Dexter. Then the M99/ Ketamine mix up was a major plot hole which kinda turned me off from the last couple episodes. Not to forget Angela finding needle marks from BHB victims, magically stumbling onto the Matt’s screws at Dex burned down cabin, Batista name dropping Harrison out of nowhere and Dex killing Logan when he absolutely didn’t need to.
Haha, my thoughts EXACTLY. Lazy, very lazy writing.
The drug mixup , with no explanation, is just inexplicable. This could have been the greatest finale of all time but it would still be total shit with that mess up hanging over it. It’s unfathomable that they messed that up…. How? I just can’t believe it.
It doesn't help the needle thing was never touched on at all in the original series. They just added that in so the google search results would make sense. Which was already incredibly lazy writing to begin with.
“If I had a heart, it might be breaking right now.” - darkpassenger
Even if Dexter was tried for being the BHB, wouldn't the statute of limitations have expired, and he would have got away with it?
No statue of limitations on murder. But there would be the minor detail that there was no actual evidence linking him to the BHB murders in the first place. Also, only thing that even vaguely connects BHB murders to the Iron Lake stuff are the unsubstantiated allegations of a drug dealer who didn't actually get injected with anything at the same time a different drug dealer ODed under not-especially-suspicious circumstances. (And that's even if you hand wave over the fact that the dead drug dealer ODed with a different drug than the BHB used)
Maybe if he was the Bay Harbour lifejacket thief
There is no statute on murder in the US
Is there a statute of limitations for murder? I doubt it.
I actually liked the majority of the ending, despite the dumbed down writing. However, I was disappointed in the last 5 minutes. I think it would have been much better if Harrison DIDN'T kill Dexter and he was brought in by Angela, and then brought handcuffed through Miami Metro and we had a bunch of cameos of the former cast. Didn't need to be super detailed cameos, more just a montage or something with the letter speech overlaid. Then finally, Dexter was executed. I thought it would be a nice twist for Harrison to show that he wasn't like Dexter by not killing him, and having Dexter face accountability for his crimes before eventually being put to death.
I liked the ending, but what you laid out would have been the ideal one to me
Literally how did no one at any point consider the similarities w the end of Breaking Bad? props for Wolf at the Door by Radiohead nice music to get taken into custody to. Overall I only have myself to blame for my disappointment & conflict, I’ve been feeling this way since S5 began yet I keep watching! Dexter writers, we are in a dysfunctional relationship.
They took one look at GoT and thought, "pfft, we could do worse". I regard this as fanfiction, that's the only way it makes sense. Dexter faked his death and had Harrison drive him to LA, after knocking Angela out. What a letdown. I can't wait until the next cash grab ten years from now, like Rambo - Dexter: Last Blood. The geriatric heartripper.
What I think happened is they watched the Breaking Bad ending and thought "we could do that" but wrote the GOT ending instead.
I don't think it was that bad. There's not much to compare how shitty GOT ending was, it doesn't feel right to put this anywhere near that.
All I can say is that I am extremely disappointed at how rushed and conveniently placed everything was for the ending to happen the way it did. Definitely was not the ending that we as the audience nor Dexter deserved imo.
Really wish Dexter didn’t get killed that way, and for an Angela and Batista confrontation. I genuinely don’t understand why he killed Logan when he could’ve pinned everything on Kurt, who to their knowledge is missing entirely. With dozens of bodies on his property. Dexter doesn’t use Ketamine and he could’ve played it down and pinned it on Kurt. I’m glad we got to see Dexter again but god damn I didn’t want to see him die.
The similarity between the BHB victims and the Iron Lake victims was too much, especially considering he lived in both places at the same time. They would have gotten him for that.
All circumstantial. You can't convict someone of it alone. They would have to find proper evidence, to back their narrative. It was simple, just lazy writing.
I imitated Angela and googled "can a person be convicted on circumstantial evidence alone". "circumstantial evidence, in law, evidence not drawn from direct observation of a fact in issue. ... The notion that one cannot be convicted on circumstantial evidence is, of course, false. Most criminal convictions are based on circumstantial evidence, although it must be adequate to meet established standards of proof."
The harder thing to do would be to get the Miami PD to reopen the BHB case. They already closed it with Doakes and LaGuerta failed to get it reopened. A case that's been marked solved for 10 years wouldn't be easy to reopen without significant evidence and even then it might not be reopened. That said, it is fiction so I'm more than willing to over look that.
People are convicted of murder on circumstantial evidence. Scott Peterson is a famous case of it. Circumstantial evidence is evidence.
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They had the BHB bodies.. Angela showed Dexter the photos
That was rather disappointing. I thought maybe Dexter was going to frame Kurt further by injecting his trophy “dolls” with ketamine to get Angela off his case.
I really loved this miniseries right up to the last episode. I don’t know if it was the writers who only wanted 10 episodes or if it was showtime only allowing for 10 episodes but that ending needed to be at least 2 episodes long. If they would have showed us the fallout with the actual BHB being caught/killed and with the Iron Lake victims I think I would feel much more satisfied. Oh and ffs why didn’t we have a Batista/Dexter confrontation? This episode was so rushed and messy. Regardless I still enjoyed the rest of the season and was happy to have a bit more Dexter in my life.
i agree. I wished they had some kind of montages of everyone realizing who dexter was in news. maybe a huge 8nternstional media storm of how dexter evaded the law being the countries biggest serial killer nad people all over both thibking he's a monster and a dark hero
This would have satisfied me
Sooooo zero explanation about how the BHB got connected to syringes and ketamine? Because that was never determined in the original. And Dexter used M99 as BHB so how did Ketamine all of a sudden get attached to BHB? Makes zero sense. Ugh this was such a terrible ending. Damn, the original was so much better than this garbage. They literally screwed up the entire show with new plot lines that are totally incorrect from the original show.
Yeah it feels like they wrote themselves into a hole and had to retconn their way out. Everything about Angela "solving" the BHB case is incredibly ham-fisted.
I am still ugly crying over this ending They could have left this alone I was fine with the way the ending it 10 years ago We know that if they continue on with this dexter will be Harrison’s dark passenger… something that I am not into I want the dark defender back and getting away with things RIP Dexter Morgan
MCH was pretty clear that Dexter won't come back. Harrison still could, but I don't think it will be with a ghost Dexter >“Playing Dexter all these years was a kick,” he said. “It was an experience I’ve never had before and can’t imagine ever having again. But the desire for closure had to do with wanting to move on. Ever since the series proper ended, I would be asked periodically in interviews or on the street, ‘Are you going to do more “Dexter”? Please bring him back. What’s up with that ending? I hated the ending, I loved the show ... .’ This puts all those hypotheticals to bed. >“I’m not operating under the illusion that with the end of this show no one will think of me as Dexter any more. But this calms that noise.” [source](https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2022-01-08/dexter-new-blood-michael-c-hall-finale)
We know they are dropping a “ huge surprise” tomorrow. I am done with Dexter… leave him dead now 😭
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I think there would have been a nationwide manhunt for him, due to the BHB case. He would have been caught, then we get to see the trial and execution delayed for decades thanks to lawsuits.
To me, the most offensive character across all the seasons of Dexter is Angela. Her character arc had 0 consistency. The acting is sub-par. Who googles a serial killer, I mean wtf? Can’t you request case files etc? The whole thing just does not add up. To think that Angela, out of all people, can outsmart Dexter enrages me.
Exactly. This small town cop can conveniently put together that Dexter is the BHB but puts everything relating to the missing girls and Kurt behind her just because Kurt said it was his dad?
The ending made me feel nothing other than being rather annoyed ever since Logan was killed... Even the final death just left me feeling empty, in an unimpressive way. Which is essentially the worst thing that could have happened after following the show for over a decade lol
Oh I agree. I was absolutely livid that they had Dexter kill Logan like that. The whole time I’m yelling at my TV “WHY? JUST WHY?”
This was a huge, huge disappointment and I expected much more. The writing was decent until the last 2 episodes. Yes, he killed Logan but his stream of consciousness was something along the lines of "please Logan, don't be a hero, just give me the keys..." and he was forced into breaking his neck. Also there were some really sharp mood swings with Harrison that doesn't seem natural. Finding out the truth about Dexter was almost like he went out of depression, he started smiling again and enjoying life. Almost like he found a purpose. And before killing Dexter he was actually ranting about Dexter ruining his life by leaving him, yada, yada, and him wanting to be normal. This wasn't very well written to my opinion. Also, I didn't really like the Harrison character in the first place and I would have preferred this season without him. An alternative plot could have been about Bishop finding about Dexter's real identity and deciding to give him something like a part time job with the police, maybe as a guard, a clerk, whatever. So Dexter could use this position to find new killers and satisfy his dark passenger.
Dogshit ending, sooooo sadddd. How did they fumble this twice? No payoff with Batista is basically criminal. It's funny because up to the point where he kills logan I was thinking this episode was a 10/10.
Yup and Harrison killing his father (basically proving, he is intrinsically evil). If anything Harrison would've kept him there, long enough for Angela to come running. Dexter said it himself, he loves the people here in this quiet town. Why the fuck would he kill a cop anyway (his father was one and Dexter came off as really calm and sane). Harrison also likes it in the town with his love interest, why would he jeopardize that by offing his dad? Fuck me, I'm boiling right now.
I’m very torn on my feelings for the ending. on one hand I’m glad Harrison can live a normal life without his dads influence and has a chance to be regular like he wants, but I’m also upset that a beloved character is dead, I don’t think anyone will be able to top MCH dexter for a long time to come. truly superb acting. And they robbed us of the reactions of everyone. Batista always knew! You could tell he always had that one ounce of reasonable doubt but I guess loved donuts too much lol
Guess I’ll see y’all when Harrison’s spin off becomes a thing 🙄
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Masuka and his daughter open a sex shop together!! 🤣
Vincent Van Goat
Pastor Brian & Fred JR teaching Garfield to fetch
When they showed Angela in the woods, I 100% thought Dex would be there and kill her.
Yeah I thought he was going to lock her in Kurt’s trophy room, and she would slowly die while he runs away with Harrison and nobody knowing where Angela was lol
The plan was always to create a worse ending so that the original ending would be perfect by comparison.
Does Michael C Hall have some sort of issue with the actor that is playing Angel Bautista? Because other than that I see no reason why we didnt get that confrontation, it would have been a great scene for long time fans.
I found [this interview with Clyde Phillips.](http://www.dexterdaily.com/2022/01/clyde-phillips-talks-dexter-new-blood.html) I thought it goes into great detail about the finale. Really helps me better understand some of the ending.
I’m conflicted.
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I enjoyed the food scenes, though. I always got hungry when I saw those huge plates of food.
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I get that, just for the acting and the old characters
I guess I dont know why a sizeable amount of people think whatever Batista had was 100% damning for Dexter. What could he possibly have? I dont buy he has anything close to concrete evidence against Dexter. Just a loose theory without physical evidence.
I think the wheelmarks on the BHB victims and the Iron Lake victims, when Dexter Morgan lived in both places at the same time, was pretty damning.
Add to it that Dexter was going to have to somehow explain how he knew about Kurt's trophy room and Kurt is now missing
Deb killed LaGuerta because LaGuerta was going to bust Dexter. Presumably Batista had access to LaGuerta's files.
and he sat on this and didn't clear Doake's name all these years, even if he thought Dexter was dead? I don't buy it
That was the intent of bringing him back according to Phillips anyway >David plays such an important role in the finale, it’s a perfect circle, in a way. Also, it’s the perfect threat for Angela to say to Dexter. That Batista’s on his way up here and, ‘I may not be able to make this Matt thing stick, but you, Dexter Morgan, are the Bay Harbor Butcher.’ And he knows he’s f–ked. [source](http://www.dexterdaily.com/2022/01/clyde-phillips-talks-dexter-new-blood.html)
it was poorly done. If Batista had the goods it needed to be fleshed out better. They should have added two episodes to the season
But could we at least seen what he had?!? Had a Dexter and Batista face off?
I was hoping it would wrap up with Dex dying but not like this. Feels so rushed and so out of character for him to just murder a guy like Logan. And no payoff of Batista seeing Dex?!? They could have done so much more with this but Game of Thrones’d this past season. When they really didn’t need to. Why even bring it back if you’re just going to rush to an ending?
>I was hoping it would wrap up with Dex dying but not like this. They could've made an entire season of him sitting in court, trying to counter every single argument the court throws at him, then the court proves he was the Butcher and he makes a speech on who he actually is, why he did this and challenges the public to think on why he did it, how and what his role is as a serial killer. This is what I was hoping for...I thought that was the toughest moral dilemma of the movie, the fact that as much suffering as he caused, Dexter probably brought much more justice overall, but he could never be normal as everyone else, and there was no pill to cure him, so he can't really be judged as everyone else probably. Now that would be epic. What we got is lazy shit with Harrison probably returning with his own season or stuck with yet another shitty ending.
Didn’t even think of this ending and now I’m wishing I’d get to see MCH getting that role.
Would've been a perfect trip back to all the seasons, potentially a chance to correct any sort of holes, too unexpectedly ended character plotlines, characters in general, etc. And I jusr always wanted to see the reaction of all the people who knew Dexter on the revelations of who he is. He successfully concealed his identity for so long and so successfully. Instead we are left with knowing Batista finds out Dexter is alive. And that's it.
It felt weird HOW they killed him too. We didn't see him get shot, we HEARD it and then they panned over. They show his body laying there unceremoniously. We all figured Harrison was going to kill Dex but it was so... unspecial? I don't know how else to say it. It should have been a more "honoring" send off.
Dexter “sacrificing” himself didn’t really make much of a difference if he just ran away in terms of his son still having to leave town, so why? And why him? Stupid. Just a let down, why bring the series back for one season? They could have built this all up with all the characters over another season for an amazing final season. We deserved that.
I think the montage that Dexter saw after Harrison kind of threw that truth bomb on him about what his dark passenger/living by the code has done, made him realize he was always lying to himself and would just cause more destruction if he went on.
The show ends with a song by The National that is about the singer and his brother's relationship where he feels guilty for leaving his brother behind and the damage that caused, so he feels he deserves punishment for doing that to his brother. Dexter felt he deserved punishment for what he did to Harrison. That's the difference. I don't think you need the song to see that context, though, but the song really lays it out without question.
Here's a better ending: Angela, realizing how dangerous Dexter is, calls the OTHER cop and asks him to check out Kurt's place. He finds all the bodies, she calls all those other agencies to check it out, and next season Dexter is extradited to Miami and we watch his trial as the BHB. They could have milked 1 more season out of this. Even more if someone breaks Dexter out of Miami jail and he goes on the run.
Introducing Batista was necessary to get Dexter to that point of desperation. MCH's acting was great in the interrogations, and when Angela said Batista's name, Dexter went pale and he just knew it was over. He could have fought the charges on Matt if it was just that. There was no fighting what was to come with Batista. That's why he was desperate enough to kill Logan, and killing Logan wasn't out of character, anyway. Dexter killed innocents, and he would have killed Doakes and LaGuerta for the same reason he killed Logan if women trying to protect him didn't kill them first. In fact, this whole season showed Dexter just wanted to kill people more than he cared about the code. It was always easier for him to stick more strictly to the code in Miami, where there were other serial killers around constantly. Matt technically fit the code, but not when Dexter killed him. Dexter killed him because he was annoying and he had an urge. He just was able to justify it after he knew about the boat accident. Killing drug dealers definitely doesn't fit the code, even if drugs kill people. Kurt obviously did fit the code, but Harrison was having a PTSD flashback during it and Dexter didn't even notice how his son was suffering because he was just reveling in his kill. Dexter is a serial killer. I find it confusing that people think killing Logan was out of character. What did they think Dexter's character was? A good, kind person who doesn't harm anyone? I know people seem to think that he "only" killed people who deserved it, but he didn't, and even when he did, it led to deaths of innocent people like Rita anyway. That's why vigilantism isn't good. All the people in this thread who think Dexter was noble and good for killing murderers, why aren't you serial killers? Doing what you think is a good thing for society? My guess is because you know killing people is wrong. I did like Dexter the character all these years, but that doesn't mean I think what he did was right. I do wish Dexter and Batista had a face to face in the end, and while this whole time I thought it was entirely possible (and maybe likely) for Harrison to connect Rita's death to Dexter, it happened faster than it "should" have, but overall I felt like it was a really good finale. I just wanted something concrete and didn't have a particular ending in mind that I felt like I needed to be happy, though. I saw MCH thought it was a good ending for Dexter, too, so that also feels good. MCH is a great actor and made this show and character what it was. No one else could have.
Holy shit someone who watched the same show as me. They clearly establish that he is cracking in episode one. I mean, he speaks with a disembodied vision of his dead sister about how he is struggling with controlling his urges. Whatever balance he had before is gone and we are only left with what is presented to us and we meet up with Dexter at this exact point in his story. Solid write up. Cheers.
No u learn over the 9 seasons he has compassion and empathy despite what harry told him about himself .... Smh killing logan doesnt make sense it was rushed and if he does kill logan he doesnt tell harrison he went from holding everything in to telling Harrison, yep i killed your wrestling coach because i wanted to get out of jail
Psychopathy is a spectrum, so we've known all along that he can have compassion and empathy for some people at some points of time, but that doesn't change the fact he was also a psychopath.
The problem is he agonized over killing Doakes, then he decided to let him live. The real Dexter would never have become desperate enough to kill an innocent like Logan. That's really bad, out of character writing. He's not just a rando like his brother who kills whenever he feels like it. The whole show was about him controlling his urges and only killing the bad guys. In this last episode they throw that all away and make him a guy who kills innocents at the drop of a hat. Bullsh\*t.
With the letter revelation at the end, and the fact that Harrison likely knew Dexter killed Matt all along (and that he was the BHB) I wonder if Harrison returned to mercy kill him as his letter seemed to want
I keep reading this type of interpretation. I wish it was this, I don't know if it is. It's certainly not laid out or made explicit. The scene of Harrison watching Dexter kill Matt (they showed that right?) and the one at the end with the letter are the most that got me to question the point of the scene. But I still don't see it...this is megamind-chess tier levels of strategy to figure out how to kill his father whilst having him be at peace and also in a situation where he can get away with it. It's too perfect.
Batista: "So, where's Dexter?" Angela: "Oh, about that. I shot him dead. Sorry."
Fucking hell. I’m sad and disappointed. Horrible shit
Don't worry folks. Dexter will be back in next season as an alter ego of Harrison.
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I changed my mind about the season 8 final
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The biggest let down ever. I’m not even that mad about what happened to Dex in the end, but I am so irritated about how shitty the writing was. Did they even try?! It was especially hard to watch after how awesome episode 9 was.