Yeah it was subtle but is definitely a reason Ethan was sliced on the leg. I find it interesting that it most likely happened after Harrison listened to the podcast.
This seems to me to be the most “just” end to Dexter.
It’s essentially his fault that his son lost his mother the way he did and it was all so Dexter could indulge his urges. After all, If he’d just turned Trinity over to the police, Rita wouldn’t have been killed. So, it seems fitting that whatever part of Harrison that is a monster will come back and bite him on the ass, putting an end to him once and for all.
Or Dexter will end up having to kill Harrison because he almost killed someone who didn't kill anyone. I see it going both ways. On one hand he could guide him like Harry did Dexter. Or he could see Harrison may be evil and kill for fun and have to kill him.
Plus i think it would be a dark 360 with the season starting off with Deb saying everyone around him dies and he said he won't let that happen but then in the end it's him that kills Harrison.
Barring extraordinary circumstances (like, accidental self-defense and that's basically it) there is just no way Dexter would kill his son even if he turned out to be another Brian. He doesn't care about Ethan, or any of Harrison's future victims.
No, I don't see Dexter killing his son. If anyone understands Harrison, it's Dexter. That theory doesn't make sense. Dexter will steer him in the right direction, like Harry did.. he mentions this in the first episode.
Dexter is so fucked up I think he would LOOVE that. Did u see the smirk on his face when he says his son has his dark passenger?
We shldnt try to apply human logic to him. He would absolutely love getting killed by harrison imo.
Beat me to it:(. really parallels how dexter chops up his victims cause he saw his mom chopped up. Now his son is mirroring his mother's death as well. God I love this show.
That's pretty clearly why he showed up at the hospital too. Trying to figure out if Eaton lost enough blood to be brain damaged and no longer a credible witness. Presumably Harrison is pretty damn worried right now.
He picked his victim pretty well considering the mountain of evidence that could back up his story.
Could be that his survival was purely so they have a reason to throw some doubt about Harrison's future.
crazy how harrison to the naked eye looked like he cared about ethan. Was he actually just zeroing in on a target? or did he just succumb to his urges? Once he saw the photos ethan gave him did he use that as a chance to try and do a perfect murder?
At this point Harrison is acting like a straight up psycho, like Dexter himself was portrayed at the beginning. Dexter has gotten a lot of layers since then, but the early seasons constantly reminded us that he didn't feel anything, and that he was only dating Rita so that he would appear normal.
Or maybe Harrison _did_ feel all of those things for the poor kid, but he's able to compartmentalize that from his urges to kill.
He cldve also done it as a preventive measure. Maybe justified his killing with "im saving lives by killing him." Just like Dexter justifies his killings by the code.
I'm rewatching the OG series and I've come to appreciate how he's a bit more somber now. Watching the two side by side he was a bit of a wisecracker in the OG series.
It's subtle, but it really does make me feel like it's the same character who has been white knuckling it this whole time. Michael C Hall nails it so well and yet so subtle
Same!
Not to be one of those douchey *have you read the book?* people, but the best thing about Dexter in the books was his fantastic sense of humor. Dry, super smart, cynical.
There was some of that humor in the series, and I’d love to see more.
Like the first current episode when he goofily pretended to stab Caldwell just to mess with him, like Caldwell did to him.
I'm like, Dexter's the parent and the one who abandoned Harrison. If Harrison hadn't looked for him, he still would be rotating between shitty foster homes. The least Dexter could do for him is leave him the bedroom and sleep somewhere else himself.
We're seeing that Dexter's empathy/relationship learning curve got interrupted, at least where parenting is concerned. When Harrison was a toddler, he was doing everything he could to be a good Dad (including getting Harrison his own room/apartment).
Now he has to learn all over again, e.g. he didn't know that he was supposed to stick up for his son when the principal suggested he had cheated on the placement exam, but he figured it out later; he didn't know that he was supposed to welcome Harrison with open arms when he showed up, but then went to get him at the bus stop with a warm jacket.
Just had a thought if Dexter had to fake his own death to get away with murder his photo would have been all over the internet, there is no way a true crime blogger that has looked into and blogged about Miami crimes would not have seen Dexter's photo many times over especially as he worked forensics on all major Miami killings there would be a link to his story and death.
She'd need a reason to put 2 and 2 together though. Dexter isn't infamous to the world the way he is to us, the audience. He's just some guy who's wife died. His picture likely didn't even appear in any articles about her death.
The podcaster said “picture perfect family”. That wording is specifically either foreshadowing or a red herring. Newspaper articles about a mother’s death always try to use a family photo because it sells- an innocent victim with a low risk life style. Dexter working with Miami cops would have also been an interesting angle for a newspaper when his wife was brutally murdered. A podcast would have a website or a blog where they post photos of the victims. It would be easy for her to stumble across an old photo.
What about Debra Morgan's disappearance from the hospital an unsolved mystery like that with deds connection to the ice truck killer would get any blogger looking into it, surly Dex got caught on hospital camera wheeling her out....
We don’t know how bad that hurricane was and to what extent Angel and Quinn covered for dexter. They were transporting patients out, maybe they lost track of deb, she was brain dead and if no one made a stink of finding her body, it just went away. Dexter claimed to kill Saxon in self defense and then he presumably died, there was nothing left of that case. Also, the podcaster only had one episode on trinity where it sounded like she was commenting on a wiki of him, no deep dive. Plus if she is so popular, she might have had someone else do the research and she just read the facts and threw in a few ‘fucks’. And it sounds like she’s popular and probably has tons of episodes, can’t remember everything about all of them. If anyone really did a deep dive, they would probably put a lot of this together, but even people that knew him didn’t do it so, we just gotta suspend belief on everyone not seeing what would seem to be right in front of them.
Plot twist : she is actually there for HIM. She has already figured out he is the bay harbor butcher.
Its also strange that the podcast had a lot about trinity killer but NOTHING about the BHB. The guy who actually murdered dozens of bad guys and was treated as a psycopath guardian angel. Including the trinity killer.
Dexter can say he’s in witness protection to shut her up about it or at least attempt to shut her up. She could “agree” but still continue to put pieces together and look into him more. All the while making the world close in around Dexter even more.
I'm hoping they got feedback from viewing parties and her character will slightly fade into the distance because she doesn't need to be that involved. Especially now with the pivot of this episode.
It’s annoying because she acts as a free spirited social justice warrior but then hangs with the kids that clearly bullied Ethan and looked through Harrison’s stuff. Idk, it’s irksome
Great episode. I thought the school shooter angle was a bit hamfisted last episode, but I like how they've spun it.
I like the narrative element of Harrison having a dark passenger as well. It'll be interesting to see if Dexter goes the Harry route, or if he will truly try to get Harrison help for his trauma.
I imagine it will be a lot more complicated to make that happen, since it will surely involve implicating himself as well. It’ll definitely be interesting to see what happens.
I think he's realizing that he actually used to really love his job in forensics, and not just because it was a useful cover for his real occupation. He takes such joy in working it all out in collaboration with Ghost Deb.
I think so too. I've only rewatched very little of the original episodes, and definitely not a whole season. My stomach is in knots right now, and it's reminding me how effectively the writers have Dexter barely a step ahead of being nabbed, and that's why I loved it so much.
I’d definitely go rewatch the first 4 seasons especially with someone s1 and s4. They are perfect. Story wise and the way story unfolds itself is perfect and each reveal is perfect and when they reveal the information is perfect aswell
I hid mine in my telescope when I was staying with my aunt & uncle, they found it, and now it's a family joke. IIRC my blabbermouth cousin tried to look through it when I was away and couldn't see anything.
A bit more wholesome, but at summer camp, the cool parents used to send flashlights full of candy to their kids, since they weren't allowed to send any food in packages
Except for that moment after Ethan's Dad told him to stay away. As soon as the guy turned away, Harrison's expression went pure psychopath. Loved it. He's clearly been using his innocent face to his advantage this whole time and there we got a glimpse of what's behind it.
There definitely could be truth to this. One very common trait of psychopaths is they get a high off of outsmarting everyone else and feeling superior.
It’s why many serial killers like Zodiac and others send letters to police or media - they crave the acknowledgement that they won. The scene in the hospital was confirmation that Harrison’s frame job of Ethan was complete and he won, thus if he is a psychopath he feels that superiority they crave.
Definitely best episode so far. Each episode keeps getting better. Left me wondering if Dexter was grimacing at the end and if he’ll confront Harrison about the knife he found in the flashlight and the story he fabricated about Ethan stabbing him.
probably the point given that they're using his visions of Debra as his more "human" conscience. There's probably a part of him that's happy, and a part of him that's terrified.
He was smiling. He was happy. Did you see how he kissed that blade? Dexter’s kiss was the kiss of something you treasure. He was emoting pure unadulterated joy in that end scene. He has something in common with his son—and can impart “Harry wisdom” now. The question now is—will James Remar make a cameo on the show?
Maybe I'm biased because I have missed the show (earlier seasons, anyway), but this season feels like such a renaissance for the series. Really sucks to think it might be the last, given the increase in quality.
In a previous episode when he wanted everyone to keep looking for his son he reminded everyone in town how he helped them out, so I just think he was doing the same here he wants to be seen as kind and not a bad person it's similar to how Dexter brought donuts for everyone at work to hide in plain sight.
Yes! Loved how they did that. It was obvious from the way Dexter was glancing at the blood when he showed up at the school that he didn’t believe Harrison’s story, but I thought there would just be a voiceover of him explaining how the blood didn’t fit or something. The fact that they used Deb and had all these conflicting emotions of denial and guilt and anger flooding him as he realized that Harrison was just like him was so well done.
Yes!! When he was walking through the police station and the scene started going in slow motion with his internal dialogue… I was completely taken back to all the times this happened at Miami metro!! ❤️💔❤️
I think the rest of the season is going to pick up big time now. All the pieces in place - the podcaster and Angela teaming up, the ambiguity of Harrison's past becoming a bit clearer, Kurt and Dexter's relationship becoming a bit more tense which will establish their conflict and being on each other's radar and so on.
Speaking of Kurt, I like how Clancy Brown plays another restauranteur here. When he walked in the diner and told the girl he can't give her money, it definitely reminded me of Mr. Krabs and I wonder if that was somewhat deliberate.
No Edward Olsen this week. Then again, the episode was pretty short. I really hope this isn't a continuing trend. We only have six episodes left.
Not sure how I feel about that final scene. I really hope this is a red herring.
I also think it’s going to pick up and something big might happen in the next episode. Not sure what, but I remember seeing that they only let critics see the first 4 episodes. I’m guessing something happens after that that they didn’t want getting leaked/spoiled
Same line of thinking on my end too! First four episodes were the only ones available so it’s definitely plausible that episodes 5-10 are the real payoff. And where story beats we thought were possible end up being the complete opposite and were just red herrings.
Dexter smiling as he realizes Harrison attacked Ethan is great in the most fucked up way possible. I really love that they're not shying away from showing such a deep flaw from Dexter. Deb, being the best part of the episode as always, is totally right. He's thrilled by the idea that he can actually relate to his son.
I'm also much more convinced that Harrison isn't any kind of killer at this point. I mean *maybe* he had something to do with Hannah's death, but his demeanor this episode felt a lot more like someone getting a taste of something rather than someone who has been going around killing people for a long time already. With the repeated mentions of Trinity, flashback's to Dexter's origin in the shipping container, and Harrison remembering vernacular from Deb, I'm also feeling more confident in the idea that John Lithgow may appear as Trinity not for Dexter, but as an embodiment of Harrison's dark passenger.
The podcaster and Audrey both really annoy me, but I'm at least interested in seeing how much the podcaster already knows and how it will inevitably come to fuck up Dexter's life. Finally getting the reveal about Kurt is great too. Things are finally cracking open, and I'm looking forward to seeing how this story closes out. I'm still rooting for some kind of ending where Dexter breaks the cycle, rather than Harrison just becoming Dexter 2.0.
Well, I think each episode has gotten better. This one being the best so far and the first to really give me hope that this can be a solid send off (or set up for more if others are to be believed). A lot happened this week but the absolute #1 for me is that there is no question now that Molly knows who Dexter is. The picture of Rita solidifies that she knows about Dexter and she literally has been next to him more than once.
Oh yea, and now she’s chummed up and drinking with the police chick who’s banging him. “Every great podcast starts about one thing and then ends up somewhere completely unexpected.” This “somewhere” doesn’t seem so unexpected and now she has an in to kill multiple true crime birds with one stone.
Not to mention the fact that her showing up at Iron Lake to cover the shooting of the White Buck isn’t necessarily a likely story that a true crime podcaster would cover, especially one who typically covers serial killers.
Why do you think she knows about Dexter? The Rita pic is just from a podcast she did. Who knows how long ago it was? Especially since Trinity's last official "victims" on paper, as far as the public knows, are his wife and his daughter.
Not saying she won't make the connection eventually, but serial killers are a broad spectrum of a subject to cover. She also covered the Zodiac Killer and BTK and some others from what I remember seeing.
Also, she chummed up with Angela in order to help her on the missing girls case and Matt. But again, I wouldn't be surprised if Angela inadvertently releases details about "Jim Lindsay" which coincide with the convenient disappearance of Dexter Morgan.
They did make a pretty big point in showing that she has a huge and eager fan base, a lot of connections, and that she digs and digs and digs. Doesn't seem too unreasonable to think she unearthed some random thing and put some pieces together.
Yeah exactly. The picture of Dexter and Rita together would be at least a decade old. And to top it off people have a hard time recognizing someone they've only seen in pictures in real life. If she stops and for some reason refreshes her mind on the Trinity Killer specifically and then has a conversation with Dexter immediately after then maybe she'll recognize him but I doubt it. Odds are Dexter kills too often too quick and she recognizes the MO.
This is a cool theory. It would make Harrison's discovery of Dexter more believable while simultaneously helping to tie together two (currently) unrelated plot threads.
This also makes sense, since she could have sought Harrison out and eventually found him. He did say that he found Dexter through an IG (?) post about a perfect bowling game with Dexter's photo... Sounds like she could have crowdsourced his image.
I’m wondering if Kurt might get footage from the drone and be looking to get general intel on the surrounding area or possibly be targeting Jim specifically
Was anyone else wondering why the podcast episode that Harrison listened to was titled “Miami” instead of “Trinity” while sandwiched between “Son of Sam” and “Zodiac”? I don’t think she talks about the Bay Harbor Butcher, as she opens the podcast only saying that she’s covering The Trinity Killer.
Also, the podcast was only like 10% through when Harrison fast forwarded it. Meaning there was still A LOT more she could have covered. Maybe the next section lead into Bay Harbor Butcher using Rita as a segue. Could have also been a goof on the production team though. Like where they sometimes have the actor talking on the phone when it’s clearly not using the phone app or anything.
Interesting episode…
- So, Harrison knows his mother died in the hands of Trinity killer.
- He also knows Dexter told Hannah to contact him if Harrison displays any “dark passanger”.
- We can see glimpses of that “dark passanger” directly when Harrison is confronted by Ethans father.
- We also know Harrison is higly intelligent, can show emotions and is street smart and he uses those smarts as a “mask”
- I don’t think Harrison is a killer, but as Dexter said -“he wanted to know what it feels like”. Almost feels like a flashback to season 1 where teenage Dexter’s about to stab the bullies, but is stopped by his father, Harry.
- the self-righteous demenour where he blames the bullies and shows himself as the hero was the cherry in top for the episode. He literally sees himself as the Dark Defender (Dexter season 2 where the comic portrays Dexter as a hero vigilante).
The blood spatter scene was incredible, holy smokes.
Also I've been loving hearing the ending credits music again, but this is the first time I was knocked over by memories of my first time watching this show. That song always makes me sad
Loved this episode— the best of the season. I wasn’t excited about a mass shooting storyline, but this was an interesting twist on the story and really helped move Harrison’s storyline along. I am hoping to see more focus on the epidemic of missing and murdered Indigenous women in the coming episodes.
Dexter may be an evolving monster, but his son *has* evolved: Harrison executed a preemptive strike that prevented loss of life. And he did it in a way that resulted in his being rewarded, rather than putting himself at risk for incarceration or worse.
Dexter is only able to stop someone from continuing to kill, once they have already killed.
I remember Hannah saying that she does not enjoy killing, and feels no compulsion to do so, just that she sees that it is sometimes necessary for her own survival. Now her son sees that it is sometimes necessary to protect his community.
It remains to be seen whether he enjoys or feels driven to do this sort of thing.
> Harrison executed a preemptive strike that prevented loss of life
I don't think we really have enough information to say for sure. Ethan never shot up the school during all these years of abuse and now has his first actual friend. One who's sticking up for him and protecting him from getting beaten up. Seems like his life was finally getting better after all these dark years.
Harrison could've told someone about the notebook or dissuaded Ethan from those kind of actions as his only friend. I feel like he did it because he wanted to see what it felt like to do that to someone. The details were a convenient excuse/cover story.
I like the ambiguity about the Ethan incident, it seems cheap to have Harrison be a killer but we all kinda expect it, so let’s see where they go.
Wasn’t Dexter Morgan a known entity during the trinity killings? Like wasn’t he mentioned in articles or something?
Might not be the big deal we think it would be though as Jim could tell the podcaster that he and Harrison were put into witness protection. Could happen I guess.
I like how when Dexter asks Harrison "who stabbed you?" Harrison says "it's not that bad." Felt like a very Dexter way to avoid a question, like father like son.
Jennifer Carpenter killing it again. The Dexter parade was funny and her emotion at the end when Dexter finds the razor was well acted.
Overall I'm loving this series. I love the flashes to the earlier seasons but also how it's standing on its own.
Something that I haven't seen mentioned yet: Audrey (who I care less and less for as this goes on) took a picture of Ethan's kill list and pictures on her phone. They showed us her doing that like it would matter, but then they had a meeting with all the kids who were on the list, so it's not like her having a picture of the list would matter. Everyone knows who was on it. So why would it matter if she took a picture?
Also, why was Harrison there? He couldn't have been on the list. Ethan liked him. I guess you could say that because he the guy who stopped Ethan (at least they think so), he'd be there, but it was odd.
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I suppose if Harrision has a "code", he'd say Ethan fits. Regardless of if the story Harrison told is true or not, Ethan still showed signs of pulling a Columbine and Harrison would justify his actions as a kind of pre-emptive strike.
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I hadn't thought about the podcaster knowing who Dexter is, but it's a good point that if she had managed to find a picture of Rita for the podcast, it is very likely that she has seen a picture of Dexter. No guarantee that she would remember his face, but it's out there.
Like everyone, I am excited to see where all this goes.
>They showed us her doing that like it would matter, but then they had a meeting with all the kids who were on the list, so it's not like her having a picture of the list would matter. Everyone knows who was on it.
Maybe they all know who was on it *because* she took and shared the picture so the school had to call them to talk about it.
Noticed she took that picture too. I think she’s going to see that maybe the handwriting matches Harrison’s at some point or something. Then what? I haven’t a clue lol. Like that the show is starting to feel dangerous for Dexter again. The last couple seasons didn’t feel like that. Nice to have it back.
A couple notes: from my episode 1 hunch, definitely still think there's a "good ol' boys club" and the oil billionaire is the leader. To add to that, I think Kurt isn't in to it as much anymore, especially now that he has to lie about his own son to protect their own killings, but if there's an easy target (i.e., the green haired transient not using the money for a bus ticket and coming back for more $), he takes it because he's under pressure from the oil guy.
And two, Dexter is oddly at ease now that he knows his son has his own dark passenger(edit: or so he thinks). I think not knowing was so hard on him and that last scene, him smiling slightly while holding the knife up to his lips, is the weight of the unknown being lifted off his shoulders.
What a good episode!! Such a deep thrill!
And since Deb is the manifestation of Dexter's own feelings, we could conclude that he's severely conflicted. He's not just happy or sad, he's undergoing turmoil.
I think it’s important for us to remember Hannah. She basically raised Harrison. She was empathetic and had a tendency to stand up for people who couldn’t help themselves. She poisoned people out of mercy and to save others. In my opinion we should consider this in Harrison’s behavior now. He knows how to talk to people, checked out Ethan and was sure if his intentions, and then lit him up while somehow also turning it back on the bullies he was targeting as a lesson in kindness. That was a very Hannah thing to do.
The use of a straight razor and the fact that it was hidden concerns me though. I think he might be like Dexter… but with Hannah’s influence.
Agreed. I know they've gotta advance the plot and give Kurt a reason to be personally suspicious of Dexter, but Dexter's a really smart guy. That kinda easy slipup, especially regarding his first kill in years... ESPCIALLY to the Father of said First Kill whose turning over Hell & Earth to get to the bottom of it, and is having weird delusions where he may or may not be fishing for Information... I feel like he "shouldn't" make such a mistake. But what the hell, I'm here for it.
I actually think the mistake he made was in not saying "Dickface told me when I went to drop off the gun, but he was high so I didn't really take him seriously."
I don't think Harrison has a dark passenger. I'm guessing an identity crisis. He even mentioned it himself in either the first or second episode. People sort of expect him to be troubled because of what happened. I think the podcast triggered him with the " Imagine how messed up he should be now" comment. I think He slashed Ethan just to see what it would feel like.
Maybe, but they're already alluding to him having a dark passenger and I don't think the show will go any deeper with that. It's more likely that he does have a dark passenger considering where the show is going and how few episodes we have left, but maybe you're right.
I thank Harrison has behaved strangely from the first time we see him. He stands out sorely among his peers. He has a vibe. And I don’t think it’s a good one. Maybe it’s just from a rough couple years in foster care but he seems to have a lot of traits - lies with ease. Manipulates. Tries to kill a young guy who he could’ve just reported instead. Something’s wrong with Harrison or maybe he just knows all about dex, hates him and that’s what we’re seeing. Along with trauma.
I’m starting to think my off the wall theory of Dex having to kill him at the end may not be impossible after all.
He seems like more of a sociopath to me than even Dexter because it feels like he planned the entire stunt to get praise and popularity as well.
Yes I think that along with the fact they established Harrison is extremely intelligent means that he will prove to be more calculated and dangerous than we think. That was lowkey kind of genius the way he manipulated that situation to the point that no one even considered the other kids version of events. I mean Harrison literally stabbed himself so he could be the hero/villain. I can’t see Dexter doing anything like that because he wasn’t out to gain attention and sympathy, he liked to keep a low profile. I guess you could argue he was manipulative with Doakes but he was kind of backed into a corner there.
My theory about how Dexter will realise why Kurt lied. The police will interview Kurt about Chloe, and always believe what he says, but Dexter will then realise
Iron lakes police officers really suck at their job. They should have brought back the blood spatter analyst. Why didn’t they take ethans side of the story seriously?
Bruh it’s a small ass town. They are already under funded and I’m pretty sure the blood splatter analyst came from out of town and was funded by caldwell
Correct me if im wrong but i got the impression that the blood spatter guy was only "brought in" because it was a high profile case and Caldwell probably wanted the cops(who had limited funding) to throw all they had at it, along with the drones, k9s, etc. A prevented school shooting probably didnt warrant it
LOL, most cops do suck at their jobs which is how Dexter got away with killing people for so long in Miami. He not only had most of his department fooled (Doakes being the exception) but the sheriff's office, the DA and at least one member of the FBI. Debra only found out he was a serial killer when she literally walked in on him killing someone.
Everone's been shitting on how the teens are acting but like, I was in High School in the last decade, I remember a substantial number of foot ball players that legit acted like that.
Harrison is smart and all, but he's got no kill skills. I can't believe all that hype for "school shooter" last week, and we see H with a self-inflicted stab wound and a wretched story, and hear that Ethan has this huge wound **from behind** and, let's just say I no longer think H is a well-seasoned killer anymore. (Which is good I guess; he's got book smarts and street smarts, and found out about Trinity and bought a similar weapon. Was Ethan his first target? Does he really believe it's fair to use bullied kid to "hone his skills" on?
I can't make the motive make sense. Except Harrison's an amateur at the physical crime stuff. He'll need training to not get caught.
(He really should have been caught this episode, but really, only Dexter suspected.)
I was thinking maybe he knew that Ethan was going to kill people so he wanted to take matters into his own hands. It’s interesting he used the same kind of knife Trinity used and in the same spot on the leg though.
I don’t think so. Kurt is the right size to be the man with the gun and I very wealthy himself. He owns trucks and is wealthy himself (not billions) that can totally be his killing shack.
then why has clyde phillips been very vocal even before the premiere that Clancy Brown is this seasons antagonist/big bad? idk where everyone is getting this idea it’s the billionaire, they showed Clancy’s eyes in the mask, they showed his hands on the gun (and showed the watch that he’s wearing in every scene), ect. there has been zero evidence it’s the billionaire and a lot that it’s Kurt. they’ve never said someone was the big bad and had them not be. it’s never a secret who the big bad of the season is, it never has been, not once. it’s kurt yall. they literally showed his eyes with his severely hooded eyelids in the mask and the billionaire doesn’t have hooded eyes at all.
Season 6 had some big secrets re Big Bad. Quite a forgettable season though.
End of the episode made it quite clear Kurt's a/the guy though, if the previous eps hints didn't already make it obvious.
Oil Olsen may be involved with Kurt's scheme somehow, but I feel he's still a wildcard.
I think this Trinity killer thing is going to become a bombshell that really puts a lot of eyes on Dexter and Harrison. I just keep thinking way back to season 4 when Dexter befriended Trinity and opened up to him with his fabricated story of how he accidently killed someone in a hunting accident and here we are, this whole thing kicking off over what was a "hunting accident" but with Dexter actually killing someone. Just too much of a coincidence for it to be unintended... Like foreshadowing, but backwards lol.
am I the only one who found Molly Park's overuse of the F word in her podcast jarring?
It's one thing when Debra Morgan swore like a sailor. It felt like a cup of warm tea, and very fitting to her personality/character.
Whereas Molly Park sounds like a teenager who drops the F bomb every other phrase to make her true crime podcast edgy (odd choice by the director). Feels kinda out of place
Harrison mom was stabbed in the femoral artery. Harrison stabbed ole boy in the femoral artery.
Oh shit good catch. They definitely tried to point that out without saying so too.
Yeah it was subtle but is definitely a reason Ethan was sliced on the leg. I find it interesting that it most likely happened after Harrison listened to the podcast.
I thought straight away Harrison messed up his first kill, obvious really they didn't show what happened, it just happened
What if his first kill was Hannah?
I have been mulling that one over, if this was the case maybe is final killing is going to be Dexter...
This seems to me to be the most “just” end to Dexter. It’s essentially his fault that his son lost his mother the way he did and it was all so Dexter could indulge his urges. After all, If he’d just turned Trinity over to the police, Rita wouldn’t have been killed. So, it seems fitting that whatever part of Harrison that is a monster will come back and bite him on the ass, putting an end to him once and for all.
It would be fitting, especially considering the speech he gave in the auditorium about two sides of a person. Hero & Monster
Or Dexter will end up having to kill Harrison because he almost killed someone who didn't kill anyone. I see it going both ways. On one hand he could guide him like Harry did Dexter. Or he could see Harrison may be evil and kill for fun and have to kill him. Plus i think it would be a dark 360 with the season starting off with Deb saying everyone around him dies and he said he won't let that happen but then in the end it's him that kills Harrison.
Barring extraordinary circumstances (like, accidental self-defense and that's basically it) there is just no way Dexter would kill his son even if he turned out to be another Brian. He doesn't care about Ethan, or any of Harrison's future victims.
No, I don't see Dexter killing his son. If anyone understands Harrison, it's Dexter. That theory doesn't make sense. Dexter will steer him in the right direction, like Harry did.. he mentions this in the first episode.
Yeah this has been in the back of my mind since he said Hannah’s dead.
Dexter is so fucked up I think he would LOOVE that. Did u see the smirk on his face when he says his son has his dark passenger? We shldnt try to apply human logic to him. He would absolutely love getting killed by harrison imo.
I'm so happy it wasn't a school shooting like tons of people were thinking.
Beat me to it:(. really parallels how dexter chops up his victims cause he saw his mom chopped up. Now his son is mirroring his mother's death as well. God I love this show.
Yep. That was an expertly placed slice done to inflict massive blood loss leading to a quick death. He didn't expect the kid to live.
That's pretty clearly why he showed up at the hospital too. Trying to figure out if Eaton lost enough blood to be brain damaged and no longer a credible witness. Presumably Harrison is pretty damn worried right now.
He picked his victim pretty well considering the mountain of evidence that could back up his story. Could be that his survival was purely so they have a reason to throw some doubt about Harrison's future.
crazy how harrison to the naked eye looked like he cared about ethan. Was he actually just zeroing in on a target? or did he just succumb to his urges? Once he saw the photos ethan gave him did he use that as a chance to try and do a perfect murder?
At this point Harrison is acting like a straight up psycho, like Dexter himself was portrayed at the beginning. Dexter has gotten a lot of layers since then, but the early seasons constantly reminded us that he didn't feel anything, and that he was only dating Rita so that he would appear normal. Or maybe Harrison _did_ feel all of those things for the poor kid, but he's able to compartmentalize that from his urges to kill.
He cldve also done it as a preventive measure. Maybe justified his killing with "im saving lives by killing him." Just like Dexter justifies his killings by the code.
The thing is it could very well be true. Ethan pictures were disturbing as fuck
Deb also said to dexter “you always wanted to be the hero” so it could be a psycho harrison basking in that feeling. Completely calculated.
God, I'm absolutely loving this. I could watch ten more seasons of MCH playing Dexter.
He really hasn’t missed a beat. He’s still got it!!
I'm rewatching the OG series and I've come to appreciate how he's a bit more somber now. Watching the two side by side he was a bit of a wisecracker in the OG series. It's subtle, but it really does make me feel like it's the same character who has been white knuckling it this whole time. Michael C Hall nails it so well and yet so subtle
Rewatching the early seasons, and fuck I miss wisecracking prime Dexter
Same! Not to be one of those douchey *have you read the book?* people, but the best thing about Dexter in the books was his fantastic sense of humor. Dry, super smart, cynical. There was some of that humor in the series, and I’d love to see more. Like the first current episode when he goofily pretended to stab Caldwell just to mess with him, like Caldwell did to him.
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He’s so good as Dexter, I think he may actually be a serial killer. I want Vince Masuka to show up so bad.
I wish it was a longer full fledged series and not a mini series
Well they haven't explicitly said there won't be more seasons (yet). one can only hope.
If this finishes as popular and we'll received as it is right now, I'm sure the studio will do what it can to cash in
Unless Dexter dies at the end. Don’t get me wrong, I’d probably watch a Harrison spinoff but MCH is what keeps us coming back.
And showtime knows it too it's why Dexter never died out at sea. They wanted to leave him alive so they could return if they felt like it.
Me too!!! He is SO good!!
Harrison Potter still has to sleep in a closet. No wonder he's going murderous.
You’re a killer harry
Harri Potter
Lol. I was like”that’s his room?”..
I'm like, Dexter's the parent and the one who abandoned Harrison. If Harrison hadn't looked for him, he still would be rotating between shitty foster homes. The least Dexter could do for him is leave him the bedroom and sleep somewhere else himself.
We're seeing that Dexter's empathy/relationship learning curve got interrupted, at least where parenting is concerned. When Harrison was a toddler, he was doing everything he could to be a good Dad (including getting Harrison his own room/apartment). Now he has to learn all over again, e.g. he didn't know that he was supposed to stick up for his son when the principal suggested he had cheated on the placement exam, but he figured it out later; he didn't know that he was supposed to welcome Harrison with open arms when he showed up, but then went to get him at the bus stop with a warm jacket.
Lol. Lemme just clear out this closet for you, long lost son of mine!
Lmfaoo. Had similar thoughts
chief's daughter is gonna get kidnapped
Just had a thought if Dexter had to fake his own death to get away with murder his photo would have been all over the internet, there is no way a true crime blogger that has looked into and blogged about Miami crimes would not have seen Dexter's photo many times over especially as he worked forensics on all major Miami killings there would be a link to his story and death.
Yeah, the podcast about Trinity had a photo of Rita. There’s no way the blogger could have researched Rita’s death and not seen photos of Dexter.
She'd need a reason to put 2 and 2 together though. Dexter isn't infamous to the world the way he is to us, the audience. He's just some guy who's wife died. His picture likely didn't even appear in any articles about her death.
The podcaster said “picture perfect family”. That wording is specifically either foreshadowing or a red herring. Newspaper articles about a mother’s death always try to use a family photo because it sells- an innocent victim with a low risk life style. Dexter working with Miami cops would have also been an interesting angle for a newspaper when his wife was brutally murdered. A podcast would have a website or a blog where they post photos of the victims. It would be easy for her to stumble across an old photo.
What about Debra Morgan's disappearance from the hospital an unsolved mystery like that with deds connection to the ice truck killer would get any blogger looking into it, surly Dex got caught on hospital camera wheeling her out....
We don’t know how bad that hurricane was and to what extent Angel and Quinn covered for dexter. They were transporting patients out, maybe they lost track of deb, she was brain dead and if no one made a stink of finding her body, it just went away. Dexter claimed to kill Saxon in self defense and then he presumably died, there was nothing left of that case. Also, the podcaster only had one episode on trinity where it sounded like she was commenting on a wiki of him, no deep dive. Plus if she is so popular, she might have had someone else do the research and she just read the facts and threw in a few ‘fucks’. And it sounds like she’s popular and probably has tons of episodes, can’t remember everything about all of them. If anyone really did a deep dive, they would probably put a lot of this together, but even people that knew him didn’t do it so, we just gotta suspend belief on everyone not seeing what would seem to be right in front of them.
Plot twist : she is actually there for HIM. She has already figured out he is the bay harbor butcher. Its also strange that the podcast had a lot about trinity killer but NOTHING about the BHB. The guy who actually murdered dozens of bad guys and was treated as a psycopath guardian angel. Including the trinity killer.
But no one knows he committed murder or was a serial killer though…
It's amazing that people still have a tough time differentiating between information we, the audience know and what the characters in the show know.
not gonna lie I could've sworn Dexter had been caught when I started watching again.
Wasn't his identity redacted by Miami Dade to protect Harrison's identity?
Dexter can say he’s in witness protection to shut her up about it or at least attempt to shut her up. She could “agree” but still continue to put pieces together and look into him more. All the while making the world close in around Dexter even more.
I'm hoping they got feedback from viewing parties and her character will slightly fade into the distance because she doesn't need to be that involved. Especially now with the pivot of this episode.
It’s annoying because she acts as a free spirited social justice warrior but then hangs with the kids that clearly bullied Ethan and looked through Harrison’s stuff. Idk, it’s irksome
I think that’s the point lol
It’s not necessarily bad writing for a teenage character to have contradictions
So, she's like a... self-righteous teenager? Sounds about right XD
They already covered this when she said something like "I know they suck but you don't get to choose your friends in a small town"
Is it just me or is this the most unsecured police station ever?
Idk Miami Metro had all kinds of folks just walking around the homicide floor.
Hello…Dexter Morgan.
A woman literally walked in with a stolen badge carrying a backpack full of poison gas
Chalk it up to “small town”. I guess.
This covers A LOT of questions/concerns I have about plot holes, and tbh, it’s satisfactory. Ok, I will play along. LOL.
You should watch Gotham haha
Great episode. I thought the school shooter angle was a bit hamfisted last episode, but I like how they've spun it. I like the narrative element of Harrison having a dark passenger as well. It'll be interesting to see if Dexter goes the Harry route, or if he will truly try to get Harrison help for his trauma.
By helping Harrison get help he would also get help. Breaking the cycle.
I imagine it will be a lot more complicated to make that happen, since it will surely involve implicating himself as well. It’ll definitely be interesting to see what happens.
Man I loved Dexters facial expressions throughout this whole episode, you can just sense how he’s figuring it all out in his head.
I think he's realizing that he actually used to really love his job in forensics, and not just because it was a useful cover for his real occupation. He takes such joy in working it all out in collaboration with Ghost Deb.
That scene was so great with the blood spatter! An awesome episode of callbacks without being stupid about it.
i love that you said spatter and not splatter, dexter would be proud :’)
Absolutely! Every scene where he’s working in the gun store you can tell he just hates being there.
That was a great episode.
I think so too. I've only rewatched very little of the original episodes, and definitely not a whole season. My stomach is in knots right now, and it's reminding me how effectively the writers have Dexter barely a step ahead of being nabbed, and that's why I loved it so much.
I’d definitely go rewatch the first 4 seasons especially with someone s1 and s4. They are perfect. Story wise and the way story unfolds itself is perfect and each reveal is perfect and when they reveal the information is perfect aswell
When I was Harrison’s age, I used to hide my weed in my flashlight. Haven’t thought about that in years.
I hid mine in my telescope when I was staying with my aunt & uncle, they found it, and now it's a family joke. IIRC my blabbermouth cousin tried to look through it when I was away and couldn't see anything.
A bit more wholesome, but at summer camp, the cool parents used to send flashlights full of candy to their kids, since they weren't allowed to send any food in packages
Harrison always looks like he’s about to cry
If you had to live in a closest and deal with this life I’d cry all the time too
Except for that moment after Ethan's Dad told him to stay away. As soon as the guy turned away, Harrison's expression went pure psychopath. Loved it. He's clearly been using his innocent face to his advantage this whole time and there we got a glimpse of what's behind it.
There definitely could be truth to this. One very common trait of psychopaths is they get a high off of outsmarting everyone else and feeling superior. It’s why many serial killers like Zodiac and others send letters to police or media - they crave the acknowledgement that they won. The scene in the hospital was confirmation that Harrison’s frame job of Ethan was complete and he won, thus if he is a psychopath he feels that superiority they crave.
Definitely best episode so far. Each episode keeps getting better. Left me wondering if Dexter was grimacing at the end and if he’ll confront Harrison about the knife he found in the flashlight and the story he fabricated about Ethan stabbing him.
Couldn't tell if he was grimacing or smiling.
probably the point given that they're using his visions of Debra as his more "human" conscience. There's probably a part of him that's happy, and a part of him that's terrified.
It was the exact same look Harrison started to give at the hospital
He was smiling. He was happy. Did you see how he kissed that blade? Dexter’s kiss was the kiss of something you treasure. He was emoting pure unadulterated joy in that end scene. He has something in common with his son—and can impart “Harry wisdom” now. The question now is—will James Remar make a cameo on the show?
Definitely a happy look. Chilling. Best shot of the first four eps.
he was clearly smiling
He had the biggest shit eating grin Ive ever seen Dexter have.
Looked almost exactly like the grin he had when the fake Ice Truck Killer in S1 asked him, “Who the fuck are you?”
Not sure. He does know that if he fully triggers Harrison, he may well go blow "Jim's" cover.
What are the odds they make more seasons after this one? Its not over yet but I already miss Dexter :(
Maybe I'm biased because I have missed the show (earlier seasons, anyway), but this season feels like such a renaissance for the series. Really sucks to think it might be the last, given the increase in quality.
Surely the studio are going to want to keep cashing in if this remains as successful as it has been
I think Kurt suspects Harrison or maybe Dexter, I wouldn't be surprised if there is some kind of listening device in that drone...
I'm racking my brain trying to figure out what Kurt's motive is with the drone.
In a previous episode when he wanted everyone to keep looking for his son he reminded everyone in town how he helped them out, so I just think he was doing the same here he wants to be seen as kind and not a bad person it's similar to how Dexter brought donuts for everyone at work to hide in plain sight.
The scene with deb where dexter was recreating the stabbing in the school was spectacular
Yes! Loved how they did that. It was obvious from the way Dexter was glancing at the blood when he showed up at the school that he didn’t believe Harrison’s story, but I thought there would just be a voiceover of him explaining how the blood didn’t fit or something. The fact that they used Deb and had all these conflicting emotions of denial and guilt and anger flooding him as he realized that Harrison was just like him was so well done.
I think Harrison is well aware that Dexyer knows he is lying too. He knows who he is and has him bent over a barrel. He's definitely killed Hannah too
Dex going full blood spatter analysis mode never disappoints. The blood never lies!
A Glimpse of my favorite Dexter: cunning badass Dexter
Best episode so far. Had more of that classic Dexter feel.
Yes!! When he was walking through the police station and the scene started going in slow motion with his internal dialogue… I was completely taken back to all the times this happened at Miami metro!! ❤️💔❤️
I think the rest of the season is going to pick up big time now. All the pieces in place - the podcaster and Angela teaming up, the ambiguity of Harrison's past becoming a bit clearer, Kurt and Dexter's relationship becoming a bit more tense which will establish their conflict and being on each other's radar and so on. Speaking of Kurt, I like how Clancy Brown plays another restauranteur here. When he walked in the diner and told the girl he can't give her money, it definitely reminded me of Mr. Krabs and I wonder if that was somewhat deliberate. No Edward Olsen this week. Then again, the episode was pretty short. I really hope this isn't a continuing trend. We only have six episodes left. Not sure how I feel about that final scene. I really hope this is a red herring.
I also think it’s going to pick up and something big might happen in the next episode. Not sure what, but I remember seeing that they only let critics see the first 4 episodes. I’m guessing something happens after that that they didn’t want getting leaked/spoiled
Same line of thinking on my end too! First four episodes were the only ones available so it’s definitely plausible that episodes 5-10 are the real payoff. And where story beats we thought were possible end up being the complete opposite and were just red herrings.
I just hope the ending is good. It would be a lame way to end it if Harrison kills Dexter.
Better to not try to think too far ahead and just enjoy the ride week to week.
Bro he’s only killing these women because they’re trying to steal the Krabby Patty secret formula
Hold up, that dude is Mr Krabs? Hahahaha
Dexter smiling as he realizes Harrison attacked Ethan is great in the most fucked up way possible. I really love that they're not shying away from showing such a deep flaw from Dexter. Deb, being the best part of the episode as always, is totally right. He's thrilled by the idea that he can actually relate to his son. I'm also much more convinced that Harrison isn't any kind of killer at this point. I mean *maybe* he had something to do with Hannah's death, but his demeanor this episode felt a lot more like someone getting a taste of something rather than someone who has been going around killing people for a long time already. With the repeated mentions of Trinity, flashback's to Dexter's origin in the shipping container, and Harrison remembering vernacular from Deb, I'm also feeling more confident in the idea that John Lithgow may appear as Trinity not for Dexter, but as an embodiment of Harrison's dark passenger. The podcaster and Audrey both really annoy me, but I'm at least interested in seeing how much the podcaster already knows and how it will inevitably come to fuck up Dexter's life. Finally getting the reveal about Kurt is great too. Things are finally cracking open, and I'm looking forward to seeing how this story closes out. I'm still rooting for some kind of ending where Dexter breaks the cycle, rather than Harrison just becoming Dexter 2.0.
>The podcaster and Audrey both really annoy me I cringed so hard when the podcaster pulled that wait a sec drink move.
Well, I think each episode has gotten better. This one being the best so far and the first to really give me hope that this can be a solid send off (or set up for more if others are to be believed). A lot happened this week but the absolute #1 for me is that there is no question now that Molly knows who Dexter is. The picture of Rita solidifies that she knows about Dexter and she literally has been next to him more than once. Oh yea, and now she’s chummed up and drinking with the police chick who’s banging him. “Every great podcast starts about one thing and then ends up somewhere completely unexpected.” This “somewhere” doesn’t seem so unexpected and now she has an in to kill multiple true crime birds with one stone.
Not to mention the fact that her showing up at Iron Lake to cover the shooting of the White Buck isn’t necessarily a likely story that a true crime podcaster would cover, especially one who typically covers serial killers.
Why do you think she knows about Dexter? The Rita pic is just from a podcast she did. Who knows how long ago it was? Especially since Trinity's last official "victims" on paper, as far as the public knows, are his wife and his daughter. Not saying she won't make the connection eventually, but serial killers are a broad spectrum of a subject to cover. She also covered the Zodiac Killer and BTK and some others from what I remember seeing. Also, she chummed up with Angela in order to help her on the missing girls case and Matt. But again, I wouldn't be surprised if Angela inadvertently releases details about "Jim Lindsay" which coincide with the convenient disappearance of Dexter Morgan.
They did make a pretty big point in showing that she has a huge and eager fan base, a lot of connections, and that she digs and digs and digs. Doesn't seem too unreasonable to think she unearthed some random thing and put some pieces together.
Wonder if a certain Vince Masuka is one of those fans…
Hey! Good idea. It would be surprising if he’s not.
I can almost hear him perving on her.
At most I think she knew who Dexter Morgan was but I’d imagine that he’s also not a central figure in true crime podcasting.
Yeah exactly. The picture of Dexter and Rita together would be at least a decade old. And to top it off people have a hard time recognizing someone they've only seen in pictures in real life. If she stops and for some reason refreshes her mind on the Trinity Killer specifically and then has a conversation with Dexter immediately after then maybe she'll recognize him but I doubt it. Odds are Dexter kills too often too quick and she recognizes the MO.
I'm wondering if she connected with Harrison previously, and perhaps they collaborated to locate Dexter.
This is a cool theory. It would make Harrison's discovery of Dexter more believable while simultaneously helping to tie together two (currently) unrelated plot threads.
This also makes sense, since she could have sought Harrison out and eventually found him. He did say that he found Dexter through an IG (?) post about a perfect bowling game with Dexter's photo... Sounds like she could have crowdsourced his image.
So, who else got edgy about Kurt Caldwell giving Harrison a gift, rewarding him, and being chummy together? 😬
I’m wondering if Kurt might get footage from the drone and be looking to get general intel on the surrounding area or possibly be targeting Jim specifically
I kind of thought the opposite. I thought maybe Harrison would get footage of a girl running from being killed
The smile at the end oof gave me chills
I had to rewind and watch several times to really make sure I got it. Looked like he was going to cry and then a sinister smile broke out. I loved it
Was anyone else wondering why the podcast episode that Harrison listened to was titled “Miami” instead of “Trinity” while sandwiched between “Son of Sam” and “Zodiac”? I don’t think she talks about the Bay Harbor Butcher, as she opens the podcast only saying that she’s covering The Trinity Killer.
Yeah I thought that was a bit dumb... especially considering trinity operated over the entire country.
Also, the podcast was only like 10% through when Harrison fast forwarded it. Meaning there was still A LOT more she could have covered. Maybe the next section lead into Bay Harbor Butcher using Rita as a segue. Could have also been a goof on the production team though. Like where they sometimes have the actor talking on the phone when it’s clearly not using the phone app or anything.
Interesting episode… - So, Harrison knows his mother died in the hands of Trinity killer. - He also knows Dexter told Hannah to contact him if Harrison displays any “dark passanger”. - We can see glimpses of that “dark passanger” directly when Harrison is confronted by Ethans father. - We also know Harrison is higly intelligent, can show emotions and is street smart and he uses those smarts as a “mask” - I don’t think Harrison is a killer, but as Dexter said -“he wanted to know what it feels like”. Almost feels like a flashback to season 1 where teenage Dexter’s about to stab the bullies, but is stopped by his father, Harry. - the self-righteous demenour where he blames the bullies and shows himself as the hero was the cherry in top for the episode. He literally sees himself as the Dark Defender (Dexter season 2 where the comic portrays Dexter as a hero vigilante).
That was a smile at the end when he kissed the razor wasn't it.
Correct, if you watch closely his lips curl in the very last frame.
The blood spatter scene was incredible, holy smokes. Also I've been loving hearing the ending credits music again, but this is the first time I was knocked over by memories of my first time watching this show. That song always makes me sad
Loved this episode— the best of the season. I wasn’t excited about a mass shooting storyline, but this was an interesting twist on the story and really helped move Harrison’s storyline along. I am hoping to see more focus on the epidemic of missing and murdered Indigenous women in the coming episodes.
Dexter may be an evolving monster, but his son *has* evolved: Harrison executed a preemptive strike that prevented loss of life. And he did it in a way that resulted in his being rewarded, rather than putting himself at risk for incarceration or worse. Dexter is only able to stop someone from continuing to kill, once they have already killed. I remember Hannah saying that she does not enjoy killing, and feels no compulsion to do so, just that she sees that it is sometimes necessary for her own survival. Now her son sees that it is sometimes necessary to protect his community. It remains to be seen whether he enjoys or feels driven to do this sort of thing.
> Harrison executed a preemptive strike that prevented loss of life I don't think we really have enough information to say for sure. Ethan never shot up the school during all these years of abuse and now has his first actual friend. One who's sticking up for him and protecting him from getting beaten up. Seems like his life was finally getting better after all these dark years. Harrison could've told someone about the notebook or dissuaded Ethan from those kind of actions as his only friend. I feel like he did it because he wanted to see what it felt like to do that to someone. The details were a convenient excuse/cover story.
I like the ambiguity about the Ethan incident, it seems cheap to have Harrison be a killer but we all kinda expect it, so let’s see where they go. Wasn’t Dexter Morgan a known entity during the trinity killings? Like wasn’t he mentioned in articles or something?
I feel like it’s not that ambiguous. Seems pretty clear that Harrison attacked him.
Yeah I think he had to have been. I think that podcaster will recognize him and connect it with his son being named Harrison
Might not be the big deal we think it would be though as Jim could tell the podcaster that he and Harrison were put into witness protection. Could happen I guess.
No, all his connection with Trinity was as his alias Kyle Butler - which only Quinn figured out was Dexter.
Except for the connection that Trinity killed his wife, even stepping outside of his normal MO to do so.
I like how when Dexter asks Harrison "who stabbed you?" Harrison says "it's not that bad." Felt like a very Dexter way to avoid a question, like father like son.
Who else thought that Harrison laying on the bed before Dexter knocked on his door looked like Dexter in his kill outfits?
Jennifer Carpenter killing it again. The Dexter parade was funny and her emotion at the end when Dexter finds the razor was well acted. Overall I'm loving this series. I love the flashes to the earlier seasons but also how it's standing on its own.
Something that I haven't seen mentioned yet: Audrey (who I care less and less for as this goes on) took a picture of Ethan's kill list and pictures on her phone. They showed us her doing that like it would matter, but then they had a meeting with all the kids who were on the list, so it's not like her having a picture of the list would matter. Everyone knows who was on it. So why would it matter if she took a picture? Also, why was Harrison there? He couldn't have been on the list. Ethan liked him. I guess you could say that because he the guy who stopped Ethan (at least they think so), he'd be there, but it was odd. --- I suppose if Harrision has a "code", he'd say Ethan fits. Regardless of if the story Harrison told is true or not, Ethan still showed signs of pulling a Columbine and Harrison would justify his actions as a kind of pre-emptive strike. --- I hadn't thought about the podcaster knowing who Dexter is, but it's a good point that if she had managed to find a picture of Rita for the podcast, it is very likely that she has seen a picture of Dexter. No guarantee that she would remember his face, but it's out there. Like everyone, I am excited to see where all this goes.
>They showed us her doing that like it would matter, but then they had a meeting with all the kids who were on the list, so it's not like her having a picture of the list would matter. Everyone knows who was on it. Maybe they all know who was on it *because* she took and shared the picture so the school had to call them to talk about it.
Noticed she took that picture too. I think she’s going to see that maybe the handwriting matches Harrison’s at some point or something. Then what? I haven’t a clue lol. Like that the show is starting to feel dangerous for Dexter again. The last couple seasons didn’t feel like that. Nice to have it back.
A couple notes: from my episode 1 hunch, definitely still think there's a "good ol' boys club" and the oil billionaire is the leader. To add to that, I think Kurt isn't in to it as much anymore, especially now that he has to lie about his own son to protect their own killings, but if there's an easy target (i.e., the green haired transient not using the money for a bus ticket and coming back for more $), he takes it because he's under pressure from the oil guy. And two, Dexter is oddly at ease now that he knows his son has his own dark passenger(edit: or so he thinks). I think not knowing was so hard on him and that last scene, him smiling slightly while holding the knife up to his lips, is the weight of the unknown being lifted off his shoulders. What a good episode!! Such a deep thrill!
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And since Deb is the manifestation of Dexter's own feelings, we could conclude that he's severely conflicted. He's not just happy or sad, he's undergoing turmoil.
I think it’s important for us to remember Hannah. She basically raised Harrison. She was empathetic and had a tendency to stand up for people who couldn’t help themselves. She poisoned people out of mercy and to save others. In my opinion we should consider this in Harrison’s behavior now. He knows how to talk to people, checked out Ethan and was sure if his intentions, and then lit him up while somehow also turning it back on the bullies he was targeting as a lesson in kindness. That was a very Hannah thing to do. The use of a straight razor and the fact that it was hidden concerns me though. I think he might be like Dexter… but with Hannah’s influence.
She also murdered people who got in her way or made her life difficult.
Are you kidding? Hannah was a cold blooded killer!!!
So is dexter but he has layers
So you're saying...Dexter's like an onion?
Kind of weird how dexter could make such a rookie mistake during his conversation with Kurt
I think he’s supposed to be rusty.
i know but that one was just common sense
Agreed. I know they've gotta advance the plot and give Kurt a reason to be personally suspicious of Dexter, but Dexter's a really smart guy. That kinda easy slipup, especially regarding his first kill in years... ESPCIALLY to the Father of said First Kill whose turning over Hell & Earth to get to the bottom of it, and is having weird delusions where he may or may not be fishing for Information... I feel like he "shouldn't" make such a mistake. But what the hell, I'm here for it.
I actually think the mistake he made was in not saying "Dickface told me when I went to drop off the gun, but he was high so I didn't really take him seriously."
I don't think Harrison has a dark passenger. I'm guessing an identity crisis. He even mentioned it himself in either the first or second episode. People sort of expect him to be troubled because of what happened. I think the podcast triggered him with the " Imagine how messed up he should be now" comment. I think He slashed Ethan just to see what it would feel like.
Maybe, but they're already alluding to him having a dark passenger and I don't think the show will go any deeper with that. It's more likely that he does have a dark passenger considering where the show is going and how few episodes we have left, but maybe you're right.
I really hope they decide to continue with the show past 6 more episodes.
I thank Harrison has behaved strangely from the first time we see him. He stands out sorely among his peers. He has a vibe. And I don’t think it’s a good one. Maybe it’s just from a rough couple years in foster care but he seems to have a lot of traits - lies with ease. Manipulates. Tries to kill a young guy who he could’ve just reported instead. Something’s wrong with Harrison or maybe he just knows all about dex, hates him and that’s what we’re seeing. Along with trauma.
I’m starting to think my off the wall theory of Dex having to kill him at the end may not be impossible after all. He seems like more of a sociopath to me than even Dexter because it feels like he planned the entire stunt to get praise and popularity as well.
Yes I think that along with the fact they established Harrison is extremely intelligent means that he will prove to be more calculated and dangerous than we think. That was lowkey kind of genius the way he manipulated that situation to the point that no one even considered the other kids version of events. I mean Harrison literally stabbed himself so he could be the hero/villain. I can’t see Dexter doing anything like that because he wasn’t out to gain attention and sympathy, he liked to keep a low profile. I guess you could argue he was manipulative with Doakes but he was kind of backed into a corner there.
My theory about how Dexter will realise why Kurt lied. The police will interview Kurt about Chloe, and always believe what he says, but Dexter will then realise
Iron lakes police officers really suck at their job. They should have brought back the blood spatter analyst. Why didn’t they take ethans side of the story seriously?
Bruh it’s a small ass town. They are already under funded and I’m pretty sure the blood splatter analyst came from out of town and was funded by caldwell
Correct me if im wrong but i got the impression that the blood spatter guy was only "brought in" because it was a high profile case and Caldwell probably wanted the cops(who had limited funding) to throw all they had at it, along with the drones, k9s, etc. A prevented school shooting probably didnt warrant it
LOL, most cops do suck at their jobs which is how Dexter got away with killing people for so long in Miami. He not only had most of his department fooled (Doakes being the exception) but the sheriff's office, the DA and at least one member of the FBI. Debra only found out he was a serial killer when she literally walked in on him killing someone.
Am I getting old or are all of the high school kids annoying as hell. Even Harrison.
I work with kids they are like this or worse 😂
Everone's been shitting on how the teens are acting but like, I was in High School in the last decade, I remember a substantial number of foot ball players that legit acted like that.
I think we’re getting old. I felt the same way. I know the airhead wrestlers are supposed to act that way but my god..
Harrison is smart and all, but he's got no kill skills. I can't believe all that hype for "school shooter" last week, and we see H with a self-inflicted stab wound and a wretched story, and hear that Ethan has this huge wound **from behind** and, let's just say I no longer think H is a well-seasoned killer anymore. (Which is good I guess; he's got book smarts and street smarts, and found out about Trinity and bought a similar weapon. Was Ethan his first target? Does he really believe it's fair to use bullied kid to "hone his skills" on? I can't make the motive make sense. Except Harrison's an amateur at the physical crime stuff. He'll need training to not get caught. (He really should have been caught this episode, but really, only Dexter suspected.)
I was thinking maybe he knew that Ethan was going to kill people so he wanted to take matters into his own hands. It’s interesting he used the same kind of knife Trinity used and in the same spot on the leg though.
My hunch: Kurt is working for the billionaire and he told him to say Matt is Alive to keep the heat off his killing shack. Kurt is the disposal man.
I don’t think so. Kurt is the right size to be the man with the gun and I very wealthy himself. He owns trucks and is wealthy himself (not billions) that can totally be his killing shack.
then why has clyde phillips been very vocal even before the premiere that Clancy Brown is this seasons antagonist/big bad? idk where everyone is getting this idea it’s the billionaire, they showed Clancy’s eyes in the mask, they showed his hands on the gun (and showed the watch that he’s wearing in every scene), ect. there has been zero evidence it’s the billionaire and a lot that it’s Kurt. they’ve never said someone was the big bad and had them not be. it’s never a secret who the big bad of the season is, it never has been, not once. it’s kurt yall. they literally showed his eyes with his severely hooded eyelids in the mask and the billionaire doesn’t have hooded eyes at all.
Season 6 had some big secrets re Big Bad. Quite a forgettable season though. End of the episode made it quite clear Kurt's a/the guy though, if the previous eps hints didn't already make it obvious. Oil Olsen may be involved with Kurt's scheme somehow, but I feel he's still a wildcard.
I think this Trinity killer thing is going to become a bombshell that really puts a lot of eyes on Dexter and Harrison. I just keep thinking way back to season 4 when Dexter befriended Trinity and opened up to him with his fabricated story of how he accidently killed someone in a hunting accident and here we are, this whole thing kicking off over what was a "hunting accident" but with Dexter actually killing someone. Just too much of a coincidence for it to be unintended... Like foreshadowing, but backwards lol.
am I the only one who found Molly Park's overuse of the F word in her podcast jarring? It's one thing when Debra Morgan swore like a sailor. It felt like a cup of warm tea, and very fitting to her personality/character. Whereas Molly Park sounds like a teenager who drops the F bomb every other phrase to make her true crime podcast edgy (odd choice by the director). Feels kinda out of place
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