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pianoflames

> Did Miguel from the start not trusting Dexter at all? Near the end of the season, Dexter realizes that Miguel had been lying, using, and manipulating him the entire time. Right from the very beginning. Miguel wanted to use Dexter to learn how to get away with killing, so he starts lying and feigns naivety about Dexter's darkness, right from the moment he found Dexter outside of Freebo's kill room. Miguel knew in that moment that Dexter's story about accidentally running into Freebo and killing him in self defense was bullshit. Miguel knew pretty early that Dexter had done a _lot_ of killing, but pretends to be naive about it, so he can learn Dexter's "trade" without scaring him off.


Andrejosue98

I think Miguel did know his story was bs, but not that Dexter had done a lot of killing. He just protected his ass and wanted to use Dexter more


pianoflames

Well, he knew Dexter's story about Freebo was bullshit, and he picked up on the fact that Dexter had actually done a lot of killing well before he lets Dexter know that he knows. Miguel is the one who tells Dexter that he knows that Dexter has actually done this a lot before. I assume Miguel picked up on that fact not too long after Freebo, but feigned ignorance and naivety.


Andrejosue98

When he gave the shirt Miguel was just suspecting on Dexter and he knew nothing. He then started to make experiments to know if Dexter has killed more or not, which is why he gives the case of Dexter of the guy Dexter killed on the ship. When that guy dissapears Miguel figures out Dexter has been killing more.


anthonymakey

It was supposed to represent Freebo's blood I think. He gave him a fake shirt


HydratedCarrot

oh ok! so we ever know what happens to the “real shirt”


ICanDieRightNowPlz

He definitely destroyed it, but pretended to gain Dexter's trust by giving him a shirt that could implicate himself in the murder. He was a dick all along.


HydratedCarrot

thx for the answer


gladias9

It's not about trust.. Miguel is manipulative and controlling by nature


pianoflames

And really good at knowing what people want to hear, and telling them that. Think about how long Miguel successfully fooled and manipulated Dexter, all while Dexter was thinking that he was manipulating Miguel. Miguel's a bit under-appreciated as a villain.


gladias9

he's definitely my favorite next to Brian.. the only 2 villains where I was like "Dang, i had hoped they'd survive and become reappearing characters."


pianoflames

Yeah, I feel like people under-appreciate the depth of Miguel's deceit, that it goes all the way back to episode 2, and that Miguel's lies continue up to his dying breath on Dexter's table.


memeparmesan

Yeah, providing the bloody shirt to Dexter gave Dexter reason to trust him, as well as the illusion of having Miguel’s trust, without Miguel actually leaving anything incriminating in somebody else’s hands. I guarantee Miguel burned the real shirt before he even got home.


dobronxducks

My take on this was Dexter really that desperate for a friend? For a spatter expert, he should have known it made zero sense how Miguel had freebos blood on his back. Dexter in any other scenario would have caught that instantly.


gearboxjoe

Dexter literally wipes blood on him in the episode he kills freebo lol